Mark Koernke hosted a four-hour broadcast on June 18, 2025, covering weapons, preparedness, and political commentary. The first two hours focused on current geopolitical tensions, particularly regarding Iran and Israel, with warnings about potential false-flag attacks on American soil. Koernke discussed bayonet adapters, firearm accessories, and equipment recommendations from vendors like APG Defense and Harbor Freight. The final two hours featured an extended co-broadcast with Frank from Quite Frankly, where Koernke provided a historical overview of the American militia movement from the 1930s through the 1990s, including detailed accounts of Waco, discussions of alternative media figures like Alex Jones and Bill Cooper, and analysis of government operations against patriot movements.
Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. Brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate. And your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold you trade your welfare paper so your life can be controlled You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seemingly farm and keep our country deep and dead. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit death so their children and your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedom for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise. Take us. Defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of Plan. Preserve our great Republic in each God-given right. And pray to God, to freedom pretty bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the midst of the ones he came. His words were true, we are free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each god given right, we only watch and tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? From the Ohio River nor lay a track upon the Blue Ridge Mountains. If this nation is to fall, it shall fall first from treachery from within, which is happening right now, and then force of arms from without. Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. This is going to be the long haul today. This is the four hour block of a combination of the Intel report and also, quite frankly. So just a heads up there. More on that in a minute. I'm Mark Kornke. one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories, southeast, northwest, east, and... Ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to us on... And we're on satellite. Want to say hi to all our merchant marine operators out there. No matter what body of water you are presently resting upon, congratulations. Listening and then rebroadcasting at a massive scale across the whole of the planet from bingo point to bingo point to bounce point, both analog and digital. We are on a myriad of other communications technologies, both inside and outside these United States. And only that one will wave at Slovakia. The Czechs, they're listening to us too, but Slovakia has a, we have a big listenership, but also a rebroadcasting listenership there. And I want to say thank you, we appreciate that, along with Romania, and also just got a handshake from Latvia, which I think is really interesting. We've probably heard, we have heard from Latvia before, but it's been quite a few years. So, waving at our friends in Latvia who know that the jackasses that are over here manipulating the United States, you know, the Israelis, are desperately trying to get the Baltic states into a war so they can get as many of those other people killed. They've been really pushing Finland. There's a whole bullshit series right now that is a TV series with the Finnish resistance against the Russians. More on that too in a minute. Anyway, it is. Wednesday, it's Weapons Wednesday. It is the 18th of June. It is the 17th year of open, obvious, and so in your face, I mean they are pissing in your face, Fabian socialist and Soviet socialist occupation of America with a K 2025 old earth calendar. I'm giving her all she's got, Captain. 125%. Ugh, she might still blow up. But maybe we'll get the death machine in the process. Anyway, it's also a 2025 Battle for the Republic, Book One, and absolutely Book One. In fact, the treason, the treachery that's going on out of Washington, D.C., combined with the foreign agents of Tel Aviv, are obviously screwing the country right to the wall. And keep her back to the wall, because those executive letter openers from Washington and from the Jewish mob are going to be slashing and dashing everywhere they can. But remember, kind of like when you see trucks and stuff laying around, hunt them harder than they think they're hunting you. Ne copula no biscom. That's how it works. So anyway, what a week. It's Wednesday. And it's Weapons Wednesday, most important. Yeah, there's a series. You know, we talked yesterday about a couple I really haven't delved into deep talking about on the air, but it's Homestead. That's done by, I believe, the Angel Network. Some of you have been watching it. As is pointed out, there's not just the pilot movie, but also an ongoing television series, which is pretty cool. Some ideas are interesting. Others should have been dealt with or would be common sense from the get-go. There's two kinds of people that are going to be running around after the bombs fall. People are trying to build and parasites are going to be shitbirds just like, they're going to be nothing but just like communists. They're going to plop down in an area, try to feed off you, maybe rake your pillage and burn, and then the shitbirds will go on down the road because they're mindless, witless, shoe-sized IQ asshats who can't build anything, don't know how to do anything, and are constantly angsting about everything. Or maybe they won't go down the road, Mark. Well, that's the plan. For us, that's the plan. Yeah, you might come down this way, but it's kind of like I told you, there's a fork in the road, like with the old series Jericho. And when you look down the road towards Jericho, there's buildings burning and the Jericho sign is on an angle. And then there's, to the right, there's, you know, it's called hammer your ass, Bill. Now, that group are organized, they know all the common sense processes that are needed, and they're actually, they got their act together. So it's your choice between Jericho Cluster Sprew or Common Sense slash the Builders and the Thinkers. We got the Builders. We got the Thinkers, they got the Stinkers. Okay? So, exactly. We're not going to put up with any announcements. People want to build. There's going to be a lot of open real estate, plenty of opportunity for you to work your ass off and actually get something done. But if you're not productive, you think you're going to steal from somebody else, government or the ones who just thought they'd be pirates, there's only one way to deal with a pirate. Installers to it and we if I just mark a size to my brain always goes back to saving Ryan's privates where that Soldier from the radar installation they let him go he comes back to be a real pain in the ass later on I don't expect to be doing much of that over Yeah, everybody's learning lessons especially what they're seeing now with the flip-flop and the betrayal in Washington DC After all we weren't going to get into any wars so we go from no war to everybody needs to leave to rent because we're gonna Know we're gonna bomb the Iranian people Wow number one does everybody understand how many people are in terrain now? they're laughing right now because they've sent that message and There's no planes out of there. You got to go out on foot They're doing the same thing to Iran that they did to Iraq. Everybody remember the Israelis were running our US military in Iraq and every place where there was a checkpoint they told everybody, you know, there's got to be a... And the only people who actually covered it properly, strangely enough, because they wanted to antagonize and they were being hateful in America, well rightly so. Well, the Canadian press, which covered the multiple checkpoints where over 135, 138 cars with families, kids had been just shot by the US troops just executed in the cars. And these are all people with their baggage on the roof and they're trying to leave a war zone. And they told them, you know, get out of there. But if you try to get out of there, then the American forces executed them. Okay, at the order of the Jewish Commissars that were peppered all through our system, which is exactly what happened. So, I don't know, like I said, you better off, you know, stay in calm, lean cock-locked, ready to rock and roll, and when the invader shows up, shoot his ass. So, and I don't care what country you're in, you back up, take some deep breaths, understand whoever it is that's dropping bombs on you is trying to kill you. So you're probably going to want to kill them back. Real hard. Just something to think about. And again, with what's on the horizon here, let's all be ready. The Israeli Mossad, they're already dropping a bunch of different hints. And by the way, there are a bunch of other propaganda pieces that have just, in fact, it's like they're just now coming out. There's advertisements for them. And what they're queuing on is hating on the American patriot. One of them is attacking sovereignty. The other one, there's a bunch of different ones. They all come out the same time. Jewish mob did them. Obama's group did them. This is cued and timed with all the rest of the Trump NeoCon and the Trump War Party group. And the idea is that the Israelis are going to attack America as they did on 9-11 with elements of the US government, you know, fully working hand in glove or butt-cheek to the reproductive organ. You know, they were monging each other in the ass. And these characters are going to attack America. Trump will demand a bigger police state than the big police state we have, which is doing nothing for us but is doing all kinds of stuff to us. failed us for four years. The US government failed us, the states failed us intentionally, they all betrayed us. How can you trust them? You shouldn't. It's just that simple. And by the way, all the lodge buddies and small hat wearers and the rest of the demon worshippers, they are out there right now circling around because they figure when this kickoff goes that everybody's just going to be in panic mode. Well, everybody I've talked to isn't in panic mode. And nobody screaming or hollering or bug-eyed or terrified. They're pissed and they're disgusted. Which is how you should all be right now. Pissed and disgusted at the lying sacks of feces that are being manipulated by the Israelis that are in our government that are worthless turds. So, we got work to do because they're going to flip this again most likely. First of all, again, we do have to ask where are the Israeli subs? Where are the Israeli subs? Where are the Israeli subs? Somebody asked, are they off the coast of America? Well, that's one of the ways that the Israelis would deliver either a smaller stolen from America tactical nuke. At the very least the radiological materials were stolen by murdering American personnel or European personnel to steal the nuclear materials to make the weapons that the Israelis have which there's no accountability for. So these worthless, well, the evil wicked worthless turds have got to use it or lose it and they need to desperately create a crisis for the lemmings to run over the cliff. So again, I will remind you, the best location because they want to steal your stuff. They don't want to destroy everything. They want to be able to get you to come off your goodies, your treasure, your wealth, and especially they want you to be such a wussy, such a pissant that you will beg to surrender the Bill of Rights and give it away like a bowl of beans, you know, kind of like the Old Testament thing with that birthright thing. I'll save my life for it. Yeah, we'll save them. I think we'll fight for our freedom. So everybody, y'all better cough and find your body parts. Yes. Mark, I'm going to give you a heads up. Go ahead. I'll save you. See, you've got a bit of weather coming your way for about 7 o'clock. Oh, yes. Well, no, we've already got the... Coming through here now. You've got a big band coming in. I just want to give it a lift. Give you a heads up in case you're going to be busy, get Nancy to roll those ducks in the box. Over. Yeah, she's actually, well actually she knows that we're running a long program here, real quick by the way. We'll be doing two hours as we normally do here. We're going to do then from seven to eight, eight to nine a co-broadcast tonight. Ed's going to be picking that up and it's going to start at seven. So the moment I get off the air at seven o'clock, we'll be shifting the system out. And then we're going to pick up and it'll be a combination first for the seven to eight o'clock instead of forbidden knowledge. We are going to be doing an extended intel report combination with, quite frankly, on Rumble. Tomorrow, during the, I believe the eight o'clock, I'll double check again. Okay, room got a little weird on this one. I'll be doing another broadcast tomorrow. And we should be doing a co-broadcast on that too. We'll let you know. I set it up sooner rather than later simply because of what's been going on and more of a chance that we get to talk to more people, better off we are. Everybody can interconnect. We should be cooperating more in general across the board and the Patriot effort. We don't have to all be on the exact same page. But by God, we better be on the same page against the parasites that are trying to drag us off to war overseas so they can set us up for death here. We, the militia, are the defense of the nation. If they get us into a war, this is not a TV or a movie set situation where you have, well, it's such a small place. It's only a two-hour episode because the country is so small. The population of Iran is pretty stinking big. They have an effective military that has trained extensively. They're not a second class force. I know that everybody likes to ridicule them. That's stupid. But then again, we have a lot of stupid people with a shoe-sized IQ that will keep fumbling their mouth on that. Every country has patriots who will fight. And everybody then goes, yeah, we'll kill them. Well, you see, that's the whole problem. Usually, they figure if they're going to spend their life, they're going to spend it on you and take you with them. At least I would. And again, these people. understand full well that this has been coming for a while. One of the other problems we got here is if our military is overseas, that this is how they're going to justify whatever Chinese troops are here, which will be put into whatever uniform and will not be used against the illegal aliens. The US government, in its treason against the American people, is going to bring the illegal alien forces out of the woodwork because America is overseas and we're being punched everywhere it will be the Jewish Mafia's justification to implement like they did in World War II the Jewish Commissar Secret Police in America that you're not supposed to know about. But we've pretty well covered historically. And they will in turn not counting on the cops or even the guard because they'll be dragging even the guard out overseas to die in other foreign locations. They can then use the illegal aliens with no loyalty to America at all. This is the Bolshevik Revolution. While the Russian army was out and about to the far western end of Russia, the Bolsheviks were backstabbing and made their move with money that came from the Jewish mob out of New York. The goal that Trotsky and Lenin brought in allowed them to work behind the front and undermine every aspect of the society. The Jewish mob here is doing an exact repeat. They have all of the play actors in place. Where are the Chinese military that have been brought across the border surreptitiously because they were literally sailed or planed across the Central America and they were driven and walked right across the border and then disappeared into America. Now the traders in Washington DC, interestingly enough I think the only one who might turn out to be more genuine or at least now is scratching her head, is Tulsi Gabbard who Trump pissed on yesterday. Now, this is a person that he chose. Guys, did somebody force Tulsi Gabbard on Donald Trump? Anybody? Did that happen? Did I miss something here? So it's rather fascinating that all of the pro-American, or at least in theory, pro-American people, let's see, we started out with first creating the pissing match and using The electric car guy, you know, in fact, it's funny, don't you think that all of these leftists have got a cataconic brain fart? Because they just don't know what to do. One minute they want to burn his car, then Trump and him are pissing off against each other, so all of a sudden, you know, good, good, good guy, bad guy, bad guy, good guy, good guy, bad guy, bad guy, musk, bad musk, good, musk, bad musk, I'm so confused. And then, pissing on all the rest of the individuals, Tucker Carlson for instance, pissing on Tucker Carlson because sensibly he's actually said a few things that are right. But when the Jewish mobs got you by the gonads and you've got a lot of Epstein videos that are unfiled at the Israeli zone, well, tote that bar, lift that bail, Mr. Trump, tote that bar. Shake it to bush, boss. Shake it to bush. And so, now they're trying to drag us overseas. The ground forces that will be necessary, no matter what they do, are going to have to be quite extensive. Israel Hell can't handle Hamas. Israel Hell couldn't handle going in after Hezbollah. But then supposedly, oh don't you know hullabaloo? That was just irrelevant. Now all of a sudden that's irrelevant. Supposedly the Israelis are just going to take over all of Iran. Do you think that the Iranian people want the Jewish mob running over their people? Even the people who are probably anti-Aia Tola Kakame. You think about it. Now if they have any kind of national spirit, and by the way, they haven't been brainwashed like American idiots have to hate Christianity, hate being heterosexual, hate men, go right down the shopping list, that's Jewish Run America with the petal queers in charge. And they're still in charge. They don't have that over there in Iran. So the problem you got is that again, these Israelis now like that four-foot runt. I'm sorry, we got some short people listening, but you know what I mean. There's a difference between a good man and one of these evil, sadistic, shark-eyed pieces of trash that just doesn't know when to shut up. Starts a fight, but that's because I'm gonna get my goy here to fight, my knuckle monkey. I'm gonna get it started, because we're so tough in Israel hell. Didn't you know that? Which is how tough an Israel hell. Couldn't handle Hamas. Couldn't overrun Hezbollah in Lebanon. And Hezbollah doesn't have armor, doesn't have an Air Force. They don't have anything. So what's being counted on here? They're counting on you to die. That's what they're counting on. Look at the order of battle for the last four or five years. And take a look at the end result with these piss, willy, limp, gink, wussy Israeli trash. Well, we got Israeli commandos, yep, and only so many of them. And once they start hunting them, that's the problem with, like I've told you a million times about being an irregular force, is once you have to start running, you don't stop running. You've got to keep moving. And if you don't keep moving, eventually the people that really don't like you are going to decide they're going to, you know, ping you down and try to destroy you. It works for all sides that way. And this is why the combined arms effort has to be in place. Well, they do have that. If they have their way, Knuckle Monkey, shoe-sized IQ America, will just jump right in there. Well, some are, but most everybody's kind of speaking up. And by the way, let's have y'all speak up. Anybody, whoever this echo, echo, echo program goes to, we need to call the outhouse on Pennsylvania Avenue. 202-456. 1 1 1 1 Call don't get a conversation. Don't worry about any questions. No, no war no war No war wonder why? Because I can hang the phone up and step out on the porch and look to the west and I got cities in America burning I can look to the southeast from where I am or south and we got cities in America that are burning I can look to the east now most of these locations. I've told you I don't care about them But that is American soil. And before I ever think about the idea of wasting or squandering military resource and assets overseas, if that woofie in the White House, that woofie in the White House, isn't going to clean out the problems we have here? We have no stinking business being overseas. That's all BS. I don't care what you try to pull out of your ass. That's the bottom line. So, well, let me put it this way. Maybe Donald Trump can play this scam like he did before because he already told you no war. I will not send American boys to do what Israeli boys can do for their country. By the way, goyim, shut up and get over there and die for the Israelis. Y'all see how that's working? You remember Lyndon Baines Johnson saying that, right? I will not send American boys. By the way, he was really parroting while he was lying. Woodrow Wilson, because Woodrow Wilson before the big one, the Great War, which was a really great war, oh what a lovely war. World War I, because we started numbering him after we decided to have another one. Woodrow Wilson said the same thing, because he wasn't going to send American boys. to fight on the continent. Now why did he say the continent? Well that's a term that goes back to another president, the first one of the republic, and that is again George Washington, who warned everybody about foreign entanglements with the continent. The old countries, you know, the royalty. This just seems to be repeated while they, in fact mostly when they repeat it, they're lying their ass off. Now the other thing is, again I'll repeat this, is Ray, oh, well let's do this before we're very far. We're at the bottom of the hour. And Edward, if you could, while I do a little, here we are. He tried a goodly speed, he made no external master. He forward marched with speed, but you'll learn that that's much faster when you meet our mountain boys. And their leader, John, starts. I do make but little noise, and always hits the mark. Oh, the rifle. In our hands, we'll prove no rifle. He'll graze at home, back across. A jitty must come alive. Well, it's a two-balla-her, but it's way the job's much to do, and the sooner it is begun. If Lincoln figure hold the button, the figures will be done. Hold the rifle, hold the rifle, hold the rifle. Ed, if you could keep your rifle by your side by Alderaan Tiren. Again, a part of the songs of the Second American Civil War. You can go to YouTube, find the collection, and these are all excellent pieces put together. Again, keep your rifle by your side. Real quick call it because we're gonna have the music up. Go ahead. Yeah, so why does tells only are is only good? We'll look everywhere we go The looters will know that they can tie They come loud and they come fast. We'll shoot first so we can last keep your rifle Oh Lord, they just won't stay away singing Oh Lord, for this I won't meet pay when we take a stand. No, we must protect our lands, keep your rifle by your side. They'll come day, they'll come night, they'll have our children in their sight. Oh, stand guard in every pass from north to south. Oh, they can scream, they can shout, they will never push us out. Keep your rifle by your side. No, Lord. Oh lord, for this I need pay when we take a stand No, we must protect our guns, keep your rifle by your thumbs And they'll have tanks, cause they've got funding from the banks But we won't fall as long as we can fight They'll go on and say we hate you But they won't get past the gate Keep your rifle by your thumb, they just won't stay away Singing, oh lord for this I won't need pay when we take a stand No, we must protect our lands Keep your rifle by your spot. We have allies in the east from the Great Plains to Tennessee They help us hold with all that we do need. But from the west comes another way from Red Sand Fran or Bern, D.A. Keep your rifle by your side. They just won't stay away. The hours for the White House call in line number of which is 202-456-1111 is only active between the hours of 10am Eastern and 3pm Eastern over. Isn't that amazing? They were full, well that's just, I know it's because the government owes so much money that they did that. Yeah, I can, oh, I'm sorry, I can understand it. The last thing I want to do is hear from the American people. So, yep, they've compressed that. Well that's cool. There are other numbers I haven't put out yet, so guys, we just need to make the effort to go through and Pass on to everybody else the rest of them sounds like that one thing we done One thing might be this is this is here say okay, but I hope so But the interesting thing is what I heard was that three days before Israel hit Iran Iranian hackers hacked the Mossad, got three terabytes of their data, including their aspects, their travel bases, all their United States operations, like 27 things. And that's why they hit them, because they're terrified over it. Well, if that's possible, I mean, after all, everybody's playing games with, you know, let your fingers do the walking through somebody else's yellow pages. So I can see that. Is it if that's got the names in there US senators representatives and judges they've been taking the Mossad money That's why we're all sudden going to head an attack her man. Maybe over Right. So you got to cover they're gonna have to cover their asses because it's gonna become very apparent who's involved in treason and Why do they now call it treason Horatio? Because if treason prosper none dare call it treason And it's been prospering for quite some time with all these parasites in the district of criminals. So I don't think anything is, like I said, nothing, we now have been shown that nothing has changed in Washington. That the critical core component, you know, the element that will get you killed is now trying to get you killed. I think that's pretty straightforward. I don't think we can doubt that now. We gotta go to war! Well, wait a minute. I think you promised we weren't gonna do this thing. Oh! Let's not bicker about who killed who here. This is supposed to be a happy occasion. My good friend, Blatsonstein from Tel Aviv. Good pig country. Yeah. Think about it. Monty Python, I'm doing this poof. Anyway, well, as it is, by the way, before we forget, and again, we did touch on this before. Hold on here and make sure I get it right. You know what, I just had it in my hands and of course, oh that's why, because it's right where it should be. Here we go. www.apgdefense.com, Bannette adapters is a subcategory, $29.95 for their blends. They might even be cheaper right now, but they do have them in stock. I checked. There are four different types of adapters. One is that adapter but not a blend. I think it's around $36. So you save $5, get the BLEM. It mechanically works, it just somehow doesn't look as pretty. Pretty never counts for anything with fighting tools. You know what I mean, people? So again, that's a good price. Go ahead. Yeah, I went ahead and bought the Offset optic adapter. And I wanted two, but they only had one, so I bought their last one. So they were going over. Oh! That's what I was wanting. You bought the one with the lower, the lower Picatinny rail, right? 30 degrees offset. You fire 30 degrees left and you have to redo it. What is interesting is again there are a couple of items that company has. You should go guys if you are looking for AR support items there are many many companies out there but apgdefense.com. www.alphapapageorge or golf, take your pick whichever ear you were in the military, defense.com. So we'll just say Alpha Papa Golf. www.apgdefense.com. And when you get there, go through all of the page. There's a lot of other stuff I haven't even mentioned, but they're tech special. So example, this Bennett extension is a good idea. One of the things to think about, somebody asked me, a bayonet, I had a question mark, came in on a spike, bayonet, you know, with a question mark, yes, bayonet. I wrote into both Battle for the Republic, the Winter War, and also book three, which has to do with the close quarter fighting in one of the other towns. And I tried to explain it by demonstration in that you're moving through an area and think about this. We're not talking about an M16A1 or E1 or A1 or A2, that's a 20 inch barrel. We're talking a 16 inch barrel to begin with. So the weapon is relatively short. And you could even go shorter if you wanted to because they're obviously pistol length uppers. We go to war, nobody's going to care anymore. Okay, it's just how it's going to be. The idea here is that you're moving along and a door pops open literally in front of you. And there are two things to consider. It's not quite in line with the muzzle. So you have two choices. In one case, as I explained, you bridge the person. In other words, you're moving along and to your right and literally straight out at you perpendicular comes a target pops out. He doesn't know you're didn't know you were there. You didn't realize he was coming. So what do you do? Try to desperately swing around? No. The first rule is take your weapon and bridge him with it. Bar him with it. Hit him with it. Stun the idea is stun and then step back don't step in step back pivot and then sweep with the blade if you have it which some you won't because you figured you didn't need a bayonet and then if you need to pop pop or I'd prefer just pop because I guarantee if a cockroach is that close there's other cockroaches just as close you better start conserving ammo The other point was that during the next step the guy is in a situation where the target appears on an oblique Now again, can't get the muzzle up fast enough, also there's a friendly just beyond him because he's walking along and this target pops up between the two. Sweeping up with the bayonet from the lower groin position, starting low because your muzzle was low. Everybody's doing the muzzle drag. I personally prefer skeet shooting, keep the muzzle up. But whichever way you go, in this case it's muzzled down, you bring the bayonet up and stick it into the bastard or at least threaten. And in the process, readjust your position so remember your backstop, remember your backstop, remember your backstop. We can't drive this into people's heads enough. Then you shoot them. Everything on your weapon is a weapon. Every part of your weapon, no matter what angle it's at, is available as a bludgeon. Now here's the problem. A lot of you have $1,000 worth of optics on the top of your gun and you're gonna go, my god, I can break it! And you know what? You might. which is one of the problems with a lot of the other technical. It's been made a little more robust, but it's all still sensitive material. And that's one of the issues that's been talked about and gone over back and forth with regard to a lot of the modern tech that you are carrying. At a given point it's going to be beat to death, no matter how hard you try, no matter what you do. And everybody is arguing that, well, they're going to cut off this and break off that. Well, if that's the case, you're not going to be able to replace it unless you already have it. So as I've said many times, a lot of the equipment you're using, you need to buy a secondary piece, a backup piece for. This is why I like using less expensive but But hold on, but built like a tank pieces of equipment because number one, it does enough of what needs to be done to keep me alive, but it's robust enough that it's going to keep working when other things don't. Now, I mean like optics. I use a nine power conventional abuse scope, but why? Well, I have four more just like it. That 9 power no adjustable on most of them. I've told you before is a burris It's the most utility range scope you can pick up I know everybody would argue a 5.4 power of 5 power We've been up and down the scale on this for years But the bottom line is whatever you do pick you need backup Because it is going to possibly get busted dropped broken bent shot. You know it gets shot. You don't And most important here too, and I've got to reinforce this again, especially right now, because you want to buy the same model because you're already adapted to it. You trained and trained and trained and trained with the same piece of equipment. If you break the one you got, yes, I will trade out a scope or a night vision device with anything I have to keep it in service. But here's what's really cool is if I buy a couple of the same models and I carry at least one spare as a backup in my backpack, if the primary gets busted, at least within reason, I'm probably not too far off where I need to reset the replacement scope, but there's no retrain the brain. Because that's another issue. You have been reconditioned and conditioned and conditioned and conditioned to a particular system. Having to retread your brain in a fighting situation adds weight to the problem. Prior proper planning prevents piss poor performance. So backup systems for the time being, even though you might have wanted something more expensive or something fancier or whatever, you're better off with two of the same model that's a robust, reliable piece of equipment And that way for as long as it runs, which should be thousands of hours with night vision, hopefully thousands of hours with your thermal, and also many, many, many days or weeks or months with the optics if they're just conventional. But if they get broken, you want to have the exact same piece of equipment backing it up. Can you carry everything in your toolbox? No, but the primary systems that you consider critical, those are the ones you need to have backups for. So just head over there. Now we got, I think, go ahead real quick. Yeah, I got three more of the bayonet extensions and I also went to Bud-K, Bud-K, you know, Bud-K is. And I got three of the N9 bayonets, nice with sheath, with the wire cutter on it. 29.99. Oh! It's on the channel, it is when they come in. It completes up my 510 program. And by the way, point of interest, my second oldest granddaughter was here this afternoon. We went through it, she learned Bayonet, took me through Stysons for us now, got a fairy, and she's good at it. Develop! Return, return! Develop! Yes, oh, and wait a minute, let's see, thrust or parry and or, don't forget, well, again, certain countries have certain philosophies with their bayonet drill. Everybody always asks me, why do the Czechs have their blades in the opposite direction of everybody else? Well, their bayonet drill calls for low barrel station and they believe in gutting you from the growing up. That's why when you mount the check bayonet, I'm going to talk about the K98 Mauser guys. If you go back and look at those really fine check K98 Mausers, take a look at the bayonets. You'll notice that they're a complete juxtaposition of the rest of the Renter Revolution K98s that were sold overseas to so many people for so many years. It's because of a difference in the philosophy of how to initiate contact and proceed with contact with the bayonet. That's why they're built it by the way. Go for the groin, gut the person from below up. Go ahead. Yeah, that's exactly the way to do it too. By the way, you know, I can say she's 19 years old. But she went to the pine tree and without really busting her butt, she said to have laid four inches into that mature pine tree. So it does work. Yep. Oh excellent. What is the spirit of the bayonet, sir? To kill. Son, to kill. What is the spirit of the band head and everybody else gonna have to embrace it Thank you, sir. And again keep up the training and now we have Tom. I think I think I heard Tommy Tommy jump in there. Let's go Okay, go ahead Tom jump in there Hey, that's why I like my high point, you know, you could be used as a blungy a blungy thing I also like my 45 you can use the end of it and leave a nice mark on someone's forehead if you Hit him hard enough. Well, with the 45, you can beat people with it and still turn around, reload, and shoot. And typically it works. It'll be a little floppier after a while, but it still works. 1911 especially. And as far as the high point goes, that's another thing I was going to touch on. Yes, there are a number of deals on high points right now. In the standard 9 millimeter carbine, if you're looking for something, you can get two or two and a half for the price of one. The other rifle, the high point 9mm carbines are probably the best buy again for a little bit. Classic Firearms, you might even have sold out, classicfirearms.com. Classicfirearms.com. Classicfirearms.com. They got the little icon of the Roman centurion with an AK and if you touch the icon, his head turns the other way. You ever done that? Probably didn't notice that. Go to their webpage, check it out, it's kind of fun. If you accidentally touch it, you'll see it. So now I've told you what to do. Now you're going to go try it. Provided they say... I've been going to that site for 30 years and I never noticed that. Yeah, touch the centurion. He completely changes posture. He changes his attention point, which is cool. With the conversation before it gets away from utilizing either end of the weapon, You know, I'm new to the AR platform. That's not something I've traditionally used and probably will not be my primary going into fight. But should I wind up in a position where I need to use one, those collapsible stocks do not seem to me like they're very potent for putting someone across the bridge of the nose or in the throat. Would the A1 solid one be better? Okay, in both cases, the two rifles that have the greatest issue with buttstock strength are the AR-15 and the AK-47. Now that sounds weird, but it isn't. Both these rifles are what I've said many times on the air, light rifles. Yes, the A1 or A2 stocks are a better choice. Remember, that's going to be a rifle length buffer tube. And you need a rifle length spring, and et cetera, et cetera. But if you want to build that or do that, if you go over to CDNN Sports, they've got some pretty good total combos that when they go on sale, which is about every couple weeks for some as opposed to others. They and most other AR-15 companies have an A2 or A1, no, they're all calling them A2 packages now, but an A2 package buttstock. That buttstock is stronger, but the weak point with both rifles is right where the buffer tube meets the upper receiver. With the AK, Now, I'm not telling you you have to baby the AK. You can beat this, not out of somebody with the AK. But what happens is when people do the go-to-ground prone drop, you are taught to reinforce either rifle, for that matter even the M14 or the Garand. They used to teach everybody how to support the stock while you go to ground and use the stock for the impact, you know, the impact point. But I have a whole box full a rice box full of laminated wood broken AK-47 butt stocks. Now I will say this we didn't break them. I bought them from somebody who was changing out stocks that used to go down to Knob Creek. So you got these for like $0.57. I think I paid 25 cents apiece for them. Well, why did you do that? Well, here's what's cool. There's enough wood left that if you recut it, you can make a shorter wooden stock that eliminates an inch or two more with the AK, not much. Any of these stocks can be rebuilt. The problem, though, is that they broke at the fixture, that metal wraparound fixture, for the buttstock itself. And that has always been One of the things to watch out for, it doesn't happen all the time, but here's another reason I've told you many times on the air. Go to apexgunparts.com, apexgunparts.com, and at Apex they have five for ten dollars The Sega or other types of AK plastic stocks in the clearance section. Another place that regularly has them for a pretty good price is CenterfireSystems.com. Now what's neat about these is that in reality they are a C stock. So if you wanted to make your buck stock a little longer while still leaving the pistol grip in place, Remember, the Sega's had a little different configuration to accommodate being a sporting rifle rather than the standard AK-47 configured weapon. What's neat is that these butt stocks are cheap and they're brand new. In many cases, like with the one company, Adam Forbit, they told you they were change outs. They had a bunch of Sagas, they took all the Sega butt stocks off and the foregrips too. And they were selling them for $5. They didn't move at $5. But they do move at $2 a little bit. But for spare stocks, if you're listening and you have a whole pile of AKs, buying five of those is a good investment because those Polymer stocks for $2, not going to cry if anything happens to them. And if you do have a rifle damaged, well, yeah, I can carry. The bucks stock down in the AKs isn't going to affect anything. If it's gone, the gun still works. But accuracy is what I'm looking for. I still want to hit my target without spraying a little bit and praying with the AK. So a replacement buttstock of any kind, even those ones that are broken that I would recut, I haven't had time to do it, but I've got them on standby, some other technician will when the time comes. They could be put into service. The brand new Polymer ones that are the old inventory, again, apexgunparts.com, apexgunparts.com, and also over at centerfiresystems.com, centerfiresystems.com. Now with the ARs, note that rear folding buttstock, especially if you get the economy model, is a simple Polymer. I'd still hit somebody with it. If it broke, again, as long as the buffer tube doesn't break, again, the weapon would still function. Will the parts of those polymers rear folding stocks, collapsible stocks, break? Probably, if I'm violent enough with them. So once again, this is why it's a good idea when you see those sales, like right now CDNN has had some of the least expensive uh... collapsible butt stocks for between five uh... fifty apiece and six twenty five so you can't beat that for a spare having on the shelf and all of you same thing you got a pile of ARs you better invest in some spare butt stocks I would also buy buffer tubes, buffers, etc because when you get into violent operation with your weapons things are going to get moo-mooed it's just all there is to it can't help it, no way to stop it and you don't know what's going to happen. We're at the top. First break here. God bless our republic. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. And we're on the march both day and night. And by the way, if you bought the more expensive, collapsible stock, it probably will still break when you try to beat somebody with it. But it just costs more when you bought it, rather than the cheaper one. Which one you lose it, you won't cry as much. It's just something to think about. In the meantime, while it works, you'll love it. Let's take a break. Let's run you to the bathroom, grab a cup of coffee, and we'll be back right here with a second hour of the Intel report out of the four-hour block tonight. Liberty Free Radio. In this, the land we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free, the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. 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What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? The technology is getting hot. It is good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. This is the second hour of the intelligence report. Hi Mark Kornke. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories south west northeast and east. Ladies and gentlemen you're listening to us on www.libertytreeradio.4mg.com, libertytreeradio.org. We're on satellite, thank you, to all of our individuals across the planet who both pick us up and listen and then rebroadcast and share. We're on a myriad of other communications technologies inside and outside these United States. It is Wednesday, Weapons Wednesday. It is the 18th of June, 17th year of Open Obvious and oh so in your face, Fabian Socialist and Soviet Socialist Occupation of America with a K, 2024 Old Earth Calendar, 2024 Battle for the Republic, Book 1, The Dance of Swords. And we are in the beginning of it. It is fascinating some of the stuff that's happening. So again, if you have book one, you might want to go back and take a look and Uncle Mark will say I told you so. I told you so? I told you so because this was the betrayal. The betrayal out of Washington, out of the capital, is massive. Not just the last four years, but the present Washington, D.C. Every element is geared towards working for a foreign power because of blackmail or outright whoring prostitution by the political hacks that have been moved to our positions of authority and because of that we are betrayed. Just that simple. But it's okay. You know, we expected it. It's not like, you know, did you hear, oh my god, we're so shocked. You know a lot of people just got dead quiet and some to a degree because yeah Maybe they are kind of shocked only because they were hoping to raw-raw the situation some more Now that they are still raw-rying I'm wondering why they're here and not EA at the recruiters office for the military or over with the Israeli army where they belong The Israeli army is so tough so big so so fantastic that it will crush the Iranian mid. Wait a minute. It couldn't handle Hamas And it didn't go after Hezbollah. It kind of stopped what it was doing there. Every time it went into Lebanon, it started getting its ass handed to it on two big ass plates, two platters, right back. So all of a sudden, what changed? So in other words, they're not going to do jack or squat. They expect the American knuckle monkey to come in and die. The goyim are going to die for the Jewish mafia. That's your job, Knuckle Monkey. Go and die. That's the plan. So don't join the US military right now. The queers and the pedos are still running it. It's just the queers and the pedos from Israel that are openly running it as whereas before it was the queers and the pedos that the Israeli queers and pedos brought in to destroy the fabric of the country and specifically to undermine the military. But as I told you before, all of a sudden they seem to be whipping out that fake $2.35, that's my price wholesale, $2.35 Chinese made American flag because they needed some plastic patriotism. Even to the tune of having a special dance and parade in Washington and all those people that were signing up and all the extra people signed up because Donald Trump said he was going to keep us out of war but also again protect the continental United States. And so, because they set up and brought the foreign invader army in, the Israeli Mossad will attack us on the American soil while Mr. Trump has been ordered to take the American military out of the country. America will be damaged. It's such a crisis because we've got to keep our troops dying in the George Orwell 1984 war overseas that we'll have to have foreign help. And so foreign and, strangely enough, secret police with weird, not American, lingual skills, not English, but they're Chinese, and they're just going to come out and help the stinking big police state to be a bigger honking police state. Aren't you excited? And then your time to shine, militia. That will be your time to shine. That's right. Everybody I have talked to today All are not fooled by what Mr. Trump did. Not one person I talked to, and here's the other thing though. None of them were like, did you see what it's more like? Yep. And I'm serious, I ran into, I, you know, deal with a lot of different people through the day. And most of them are used to seeing me. And there wasn't any, oh my God, the only conversation was really, I wonder what kind of traitorous act Mr. Trump is going to allow the Israelis to pull on the American people. Will it be an Israeli submarine torpedoing the renamed USS Twin Towers Sacrifice? You know, the old aircraft carrier Nimitz, but its new name is Twin Towers Sacrifice. That would be likely. But the problem is that might not be enough. I'm sure they can shake a few cages that way. So the Israeli Mossad has to attack America on American soil like the Israeli Mossad and elements of the US government attacked America in New York and Washington on 9-11. It was the Israelis that did it. It was the Israelis that did it. It will be the Israelis doing this one. Everybody ready? Well, what about all the people who came across the border? What about them? You know, if you bitch about all of those people after sitting on your ass for four years, every step of the way, it stopped them, stopped them, stopped them, and it fell on the deaf ears of the entire body of the federal government. Now, one element of the federal government refused to go along with betraying the sovereignty and allowing to help. with the invasion of the United States for four solid years. And then you're telling me that all of these parasites that are wallet munchers on your tax dollars, that they just all of a sudden changed? Yeah, and I'm a Chinese jet pilot named Lao Zee. So now, the now the treason that they all participated in is going to be the, well you know, the arema state outright and the stadiums are going to attack us. The sleeper cells, the sleeper cells are all Jewish. The Mossad agents that are rife all through the United States that commit murder and mayhem, assassination and create accidents are operating here and will continue to operate here as long as we put up with it. And right now, they've already got it set up because Trump lied to you and said, oh, I didn't know they were going to do this. Then a day later, oh, yeah, this was all planned, way in advance. Oh, yeah, I knew all. Wait a minute. OK, so we got how many mouthfuls of lies day after day? Which which is it, by the way? So that means that whatever Israeli attack on America's people takes place. Has been planned and is pre-deployed right now for them to act just like it took them Weeks if not months to prep the World Trade Center with Israeli demolitions For the destruction of the World Trade Center one and two and for building seven just pull it you don't do in a minute Unless you've already got it set to go and you did a lot of work to make it happen So whatever attack the Israelis and elements of the US government are going to make on the American people, there's a whole bunch of soulless, satanic, pedo, queer operatives who are out there right now ready to murder your kin, possibly murder you. You know, I am very, if the Arab terrorists do anything, they're going to get shot. If the Israelis act, they should be shot, but probably will be because a lot of Americans, as I've said many times, they don't know the difference between an Israeli from over there and any of the other Arab nationalities. And that's why over a hundred, at least that we know of, Israeli Mossad agents were grabbed after 9-11 involved in espionage and terrorist attack actions against the American people. on American soil, picked up by the federal agencies, who then turned around, packed them all up, put them on an LL airliner, and let them leave the country even though they all got caught in what were multiple criminal actions and in fact espionage against America. Most importantly is espionage against you the people. So if you, if, if they're, well, you pick whichever direction, whatever you want to believe is not my problem. But I am not going to get caught flat-footed by the criminals in Washington and their handlers and overlords over there in Israel hell because it's coming. Look at it this way. At the very least prepare because we believe it's going to be the Iranist and Abadians. Okay? Fantastic. When we catch them and we keep poking them with a bad net, they keep screaming in Hebrew, what are you going to say then? Because our plan is to capture every last one of the bastards. If we can catch these asshats in the process, catch their drivers, catch their spotters, everybody's looking for them. They might be in white pickup trucks. They might be in black pickup trucks. They could be in smaller SUVs or minivans. Mostly black trucks and white trucks. And a lot of white trucks, actually. When you have a parallel formation of people that are your friends, moving along with you while they think they're moving with you, our people are moving with them, we get to follow them back to where they came from. And then we find out where their nest slash enclave is like today. Remember that. Take advantage. The battlefield is going to continue to develop until we're gone. Hey, enjoy life. This is exciting. These are exciting times you're living in. Remember, that's an old Chinese curse. May you live in exciting times. Oh, exciting does not mean pleasurable. No, not at all. So anyway, a couple of things here real quick. Let's close. On the bayonet, somebody's asking here again. Okay, one more time. Listen up. www.apgdefense.com. One of our callers passed this address off to me. And again, three out of the four adapters are available. Personally, the Blem is cheaper by five or six dollars. If you go check them out, it's www.apgdefense.com. This particular adapter is for the AR-15. Now, there are Mini-14 adapters. that will work with pretty much all the ARs also, guys. If you've got a really, really, really long barrel, one of the things you can do is add on one of the clamp type badnet lugs, which are available for... They'll work on the Mini-14. They'll actually work on many of the different weapons that are out there that you might have. One that most of you are probably not thinking about. The FR6s and 7s, those Spanish Mausers that came in, they came in in 7mm and they came in in 7.62x51 NATO. Those rifles are neat little rifles. They're a great little car, like a .308 carbine package. They reconfigured them so that they would have the same sight picture as the G3-ScentMe assault rifle. The CETME was the standard primary arm. Well, when they did a series of progressive upgrades to try and give everybody the same training, remember, it's the training aid. It still is a lethal weapon. I don't want to get shot with that gun. But it's the idea that those guns came in a surplus and you may not be able to find a G3 bayonet that is cheap. Remember when those came in, there were a bunch of G3 bayonets that came in for about $9 apiece with a scabbard. Now they were tired. Those rifles were used and the bandits were used more. But they were still functional bandits and a lot of our guys have them because that's what you take out for beating up and training. And they are good blades or good steel. But you could take one of these alternate bandit adapters that works on the Mini-14 because if you go look you'll see that they offer many different barrel dimensions. So, you have to pick that first. Now, a couple of the companies are sold out of most of them, but there are a few other companies that are not. So, you have to shop around to see what you're, you know, find what you're looking for to match the weapon that maybe it doesn't, it has a flash hider, but it doesn't have a bayonet lug, or at least not one that you could find a bayonet for. So, just a consideration there. Is a bayonet charge in the works? Not necessarily, but you know, we don't know how it's going to be several years down the road after World War 4 or 5. Because after World War 4 or 5, whatever you got left is going to be all you got left. What? 4 or 5? Well, we're talking about 3. Yeah, I know. And that'll be over after a while too. And, you know, if you're watching, ever watch the movie A Boy and His Dog, anybody? Does anybody remember the intro, the opening to A Boy and His Dog? Now I'm just going to paraphrase it because it's one of those movies I have. I haven't seen it for probably 40 years. It's out there. It's circulating somewhere. I know it is. A Boy and His Dog. It's in a Pocky Clips movie. Well, World War III lasted, I think they said, what, 17 hours and 40-some minutes. World War IV lasted 3 hours and 60 minutes. World War V lasted 57 minutes. and the movie is set after World War 5. I'm just paraphrasing. You go take a look at it, you'll see what I'm talking about. So again, you don't know. And better a sharp, pointy object in harsh language or using my rifle as a club. And if I have to move prisoners, a bayonet is still a very handy tool. I don't want to shoot maybe friend or foe, depending on the situation. And I know that most people are going to say prisoners. I don't know that word. And I understand that. I really do. And not a whole lot I can do to stop that. Oh well. But on occasion, we might need information. So talking to The enemy a little bit would probably be a good idea. So I might tell you when I need somebody collected and you got to keep them alive. Okay, just keep that in mind. And when you do, well, they're going to kind of last a little bit and then keep their attention. A sharp pointy object on somebody's butt cheek really does work. Quite useful. So heads up. Now another thing, ammunition. AIMSURPLUS does have some more preview partisan that came in and another mix of ammunition. And they do have a lot of odd small pistol calibers that have come in. So two numbers to mention. You need to go over to AIMSURPLUS.COM. Check them out. OK? AIMSURPLUS.COM. If you're looking for that odd ammo for that odd gun like was mentioned before grandpa gave you or dad left you. You didn't know even had it. It's in the drawer there. It's in a caliber, you know, it's in an odd chambering. It's a traditional pocket pistol. Is it any good? Hell yeah. Does it go bang? Yep. Bullet penetrate flesh, probably stay in there when it hits? Yep. Well, then get some ammo for it. If it's a gun and it works, or if it maybe doesn't work yet but you're going to be working on it, buy the ammo now. Pick up at least a couple of boxes, 20 rounds in rifle, ideally then 100, 100 rounds, or a couple of 50 round boxes or whatever. Even if you have one of those old Japanese namboos. Right now there's fresh factory namboo ammo over at AIM surplus. So if you got one of those baby namboos or a full size namboo, I think they've got all the variants over there. Boxer prime non-corrosive. Again, probably not going to recover the brass, but then again if it's close quarter, if it's used as an area defense weapon where you just use it to stash it somewhere, and if somebody needs it here, here's a gun, go pew pew with them, then it's something you can hand out. Go ahead, call or jump in there. So this is Weapons Wednesday. I meant to bring this up. I just recently found out that Harbor Freight has a a gun light that they just released like a week ago. It's based on the Streamlight TR-1, I believe. It's a pistol light. So you have a momentary on using your index finger to either momentary on or on constantly. Or if you, I believe if you tap it twice on the momentary on, you've got a strobe and it takes two. CR123 batteries. I posted a video in Gilded less than a week ago under the gears and deals section. And the link to Harbor Freights with a picture of it. The gentleman that was reviewing it. He didn't do a hard test like she did or anything, Mark. But I mean, it comes with multiple little inserts to attach to different weapon rail sizes, whether it be 1911 Glock to the front of the pistol so you have different adjustments that it comes with so it will fit the weapon of your choosing. So, I mean, but he put them side by side. They look almost 100% identical. I mean, same width, same... There's just a slight few variation differences. On the TR-1, I believe there's a clamp on it that clamps it. Mark, that one side on the actual stream light one is solid, and then the other side is the clamping that clamps onto it. But this one is its clamp, brings in both sides. So I would assume maybe in the near future, Harbor Freight, maybe a year from now, whatever, will almost 100% identical copy or maybe they just did that because this keeps them out of lawsuit for a copy of the screen light. But the guy poured water on it. It's not waterproof rated it says. You know, they poured a bottle of water on it with it on and stuff, dropped it from five feet. It turned off because it hit the switch but other than that it worked fine. He didn't dunk it in a bucket of water or shoot with it yet. But like I said, these just came out like a week ago. So there's several review videos on these and stuff like that. So it's $50. The actual stream light is like $120 or $140-ish, depending on where you get it. There is some Amazon ones that are not 100% identical. They're about $30-something for a tack light. But these look exactly like the stream light. Probably who knows? They probably come almost from the same factory or. right next door from the same factory that Streamlight produced these. Oh, it wouldn't be the first time it came right from the factory. They just changed it up a little, like you said. Correct. It would be the first time they've done it. Now, since they just came out, I'm sure, just keep an eye on it. If you don't want to buy it right now, if you keep an eye out, they should be some coupons. I would guess by the end of the year, that could drop these down, you know, 20 bucks, you know, to make them $30. for that limited time. But also I have seen in the past where a flashlight that is super, super popular. They had a swim bar, mechanic light. They had a magnet on the bottom. Rechargeable, it was like $20. And they were so popular that they raised the price up about $15, $15 or $20 higher because they were flying off the shelves constantly. And that's not because they were that good. But they did drop some coupons later on. the last couple of years to drop them back down to like $20 or $25 around the same price when they first came out. So not saying that these could jump up, but it could jump up also. So this is also a good, if you don't want to, if you've already got a stream light and you need a couple extra, this is a good budget. the light. Very good. I watched the video on that last night, Mark. I watched that last night. The model is Brawn. B-R-A-U-N. Yes, and it is 50 bucks the video I watched the guy submerged it in a brain barrel It's about three feet deep and he left it there for 25 minutes, and he came back, and it was good It doesn't say that it's rated for waterproof, but he didn't have a problem with that. He also ran over it He mounted it on I don't gosh. I don't know what weapon he mounted it on I wouldn't do this, but he mounted on a weapon ran it over with his wife's Jeep, and it still worked And he took it variously up to 125 and 150 and 175 feet and dropped it from his drone. Now he dropped it on his grass in his backyard. He didn't drop it on concrete. And even at a hundred and it was 176 feet, it landed and still worked fine. So I was hoping nobody would mention this. Now I got to make a run out to Harbor Freight before they fell out because I had planned on getting a couple of these just to run them on a couple of weapons I have over. Also, a quick comment, I just thought of him dropping it. Harbor Freight does offer a 90-day warranty on these, but if you pay like five, 10 bucks more, you get a two-year warranty. So, say a year from now, it breaks or something happens, whatever, you should be able to get a replacement. I'm not sure what always included the warranty, but if you want to go that route and spend extra 10 bucks, so you're covered for two more years from now, Like I said, Harbor Freight just released these like a week and a half ago without an announcement or usually they announce stuff coming out, sometimes new products or whatever. So like I said, if you're not going to get it now, definitely keep an eye on. There's a couple Harbor Freight. There's at least one Harbor Freight coupon app. Also, the Dena Tools on YouTube usually does tool deals and stuff like that and keeps track of Harbor Freight. very regularly. So he'll post their upcoming sales sometimes and go through their catalog usually a week before. So definitely keep an eye out for those future coupons here, you know, because they do it, you know, Fourth of July Memorial or Labor Day, Black Friday, you know, Christmas time. They, you know, all the usually each month or some sort of sale usually, but obviously the major holidays, they usually have some sort of sale going on and drop some coupons. That's all I have, Mark. I'll move you back up. Very good. Again, for the price, if you're looking virtually at almost half price, or at least two-thirds for any of the other comparable items, if you've got a number of weapons, especially if you've got handout or auxiliaries, then this is the way to put what you need on the shelf without it hammering your wallet. Because I know there's a whole long list of things that people want. But there's a whole lot of stuff people just don't have the budget money for. So this is a solution. You can buy a better quality, well, you can buy another name brand product, as was pointed out, I will say this, a lot of stuff, if it isn't made overseas, it's mimicked and is being thrown into the system from overseas. The Chinese know no, they have no screw poles. They don't care. They would take everything from you and they will make copies. And they did, and they have. So there's a lot of the stuff out here that it's works, or they've altered what they were making for the American counterpart company enough that they can claim it's not yours, it's ours. This happens quite a bit in industry nowadays. Not a surprise, it's not a shock in any way, shape, or form. Now, big thing here again is it does give you the ability to put more weapons that are completely kitted the way you were hoping to outfit them. based on whatever your standard is that you've established for the unit. That's something that is important. So take advantage of it while we can. And they do have a lot of other neat tools at Harbor Freight. As long as you're in there, go peruse the rest of the shelves. See if there's something else you need just to top off the tool kit or whatever. That way you've got it on the shelf. Maybe it doesn't do it the best, but it will do it maybe once or twice before, and it's set one time you need it, before it fails. It's useful for the moment. Sometimes we have to use stopgap or bridge methods to get to where we need to be. Now, we're at the bottom of the hour where we need to be and Edward is all ready with his finger on the trigger, because it's the bottom of the hour on Liberty Tree Radio and the Intel Report. And I hate stepping in... I hate stepping in the way. You're listening to Liberty Tree Radio. There's my rally, there is danger, and there's danger in our hills. Oh, here you're not the thing in all the views of the wild and free. Soon you'll know from the tree, who will the rifle, who will the rifle? In our hands at a good late speed, you may know it's a turn to master. You forward march with speed, but you'll learn the back-spunch master when you meet our mountain boys. And the leader, John, is taught that you make what little noise you always hit the mark. Who will the rifle, who will the rifle? In our hands you will prove Noah's rifle, who craves it home, and back it's frosted bright. Oh We are back and it is Weapons Wednesday here on Liberty Tree Radio. You're listening to libertytreeradio.4mg.com, libertytreeradio.org, and we are going to be on 6.160 regular shortwave. We're back on actually last night. We were. I just didn't get the notice until today. We will be during the third hour, 8 to 9, which will be the fourth hour today, 8 to 9 p.m. Monday through Friday on 6.160. So we're back over to the regular frequency. Transmitter maintenance has been accomplished. And so, let's see, throw a dart. What do we want in the way of music? Well, let's see. Mike and the mechanics, maybe. Mark. Go ahead. Jump in there, caller. I just want to mention with the bayonets and their BM-9 bayonets. One thing really handy on it is the barbed wire razor wire cutter built into it over. Yes, like the Russian, it's copying the Russian concept of having another tool on board. You're going to carry the knife anyway. How about we do something else with it? Well, that's a great idea, sir. So they actually have built it, set it up so that it actually does have a wire snipper, barbed wire snipper, cable line snipper. They actually are pretty decent, the Russian and the American variants. So, having everybody with a wire cutter is awfully stinking good. If you get to an obstacle and everybody can be clipping, snipping every part of what's in front of them, guess what? That eliminates a lot of the obstacle real quick. Just something to think about there. Any time you can provide every man with a tool that is especially useful in a deployment like that, It is going to change the dynamic of activity on the ground when you operate. And that's valuable. That is priceless, to be quite honest. It's like, I know this has nothing to do with bayonet logs or bayonets or wire cutters, but I've always thought it's like, why are we not giving an M203 grenade launcher to every man in the team? We have modern CNC machinery. I guarantee we could probably make an M203 for about $19 to $21 a unit. Well, sure, I guarantee we could. The actual wholesale price, the job or wholesale price. Now needless to say, they want to make a jackup markup, but I mean even when they give it to the government nowadays, used to be it was lowest bidder, now it's how much can you scam the taxpayer. But we could do that. And with the bayonet, everybody, remember if you're going to carry the weight, it's nice to have another tool. And so that is a good option. And by the way, that was the one you picked up was at BudK. That's B-U-D-K dot com. BudK.com. BudK.com. There are a number of other companies that have the, well, regular issue or aftermarket. Check them out. The aftermarket ones work. We've tried to beat the hell out of them. They also have, by the way, at BudK. They have a stainless steel copy of the original Colt pattern, uh, bayonet. It's stainless. It can be painted. Everybody's painting stainless nowadays using, you know, cry coat and all kinds of other fun stuff. Just spray painted with some Krylon. Give it chips and put some more on it. But, uh, those who are running it, they were, used to be forever, $9.99. I don't know what they're running, I think about 12 or 14 right now. But if you needed a bunch of additional bayonets, it comes with a simple scabbard. Nothing to write home about, but it is stainless and it does work. It's nothing fancy, but it puts a sharp pointing object on the end of the weapons. If you have a pilot AR-15 A1s or A2s, there's the solution too. Go ahead. Yeah, the ring on that bayonet that slides over the flyshider, it still works great over. I'm sorry, repeat that? We lost you a little bit. The hole in the bayonet mounted slides over the flyshider is a slightly bit oversized so the hole is a little bigger and it should be a little loose but it works great still over. It will probably fit on pretty much everything that takes an M16 type bayonet because some of the 12 gauge guns get a little snug where they have the add-on bayonet lugs. So that's probably a good thing. That's a way to actually have something that's not going to be a fight to get on and off. Of course, if you put it on and off enough, you'll wear it in. But, you know, again, prioritize crude and rude with where it's needed to make things work better. The precision tool on one side can be enhanced for operation with the crude and rude on the other. In other words, dimensions may not be perfect, but they're close enough to be serviceable. So that works out for us. I'll tell you what, Ed, if you could, it's not a rumor anymore. The turds are obviously trying to drag America in the rest of the way, but everybody else is coming in from all directions, China, Russia, Pakistan, et cetera. So it's going to be a mealy. Guys, rumors of war, Ed, if you could, rumors of war. That'll be ours. music selection for this hour and of course in another 20 minutes we're going to be both on Liberty Tree Radio and quite frankly on Rumble co-broadcasting from 7 to 8 and oh, forgive me, from 7 to 8, yes, and 8 to 9 so the next two hours after this will be Other and Liberty Tree Radio. Here we go. We've got a storm headed our way, by the way. That's not a rumor. We've had this headed our direction. We're expecting it somewhere around this time. I would not be surprised if we get disconnected, unfortunately. I might have to switch the satellite phone. If that happens, that's okay. Of course, there's no guarantee the satellite phones or the other tech will work either. We are on the edge of another front that's been traveling across the Midwest. So pay attention if you're in the bottom of the state of Michigan. We've already been getting rain squalls all day. The plants really love it. All of the beans here jumped up by four inches during the day between when I got up this morning and this afternoon just before I started doing the program. Went out and checked the garden and the pole beans, we have four different breeds, all jumped. They had moisture in the morning, then we had this x-ray sunshine going on between the clouds, and then the next wave of rain. So it's going to continue to be that way. In fact, we're getting a little rain right now as I speak. That doesn't mean it's going to stick around. It'll be like I said in squalls. And that's expected. Another thing on that note, wet weather gear. Now, oh, there is over at, by the way, over at camouflage supply, clothing supply. No, clothing supply. Forgive me. No. Come on, Mark. Get it right. I'm catching myself off guard here to a degree. Hold on a second here. I can jump on it. Anyway, they have the fish flage. Fish flage? Yeah, something that somebody came up with for the sporters. It's got fish in the, it's an underwater camouflage, so to speak. Yeah, I don't know where you're going to wear camouflage underwater. We're not. But what's interesting is they have with either Croppies or with Pike. Well, this is sounding weird, isn't it, right off the bat. Well, it does sound weird, but let me point out that they've got this stuff at buy one, get one free. This cloth is already in the clearance section. Well, of course, Mark, it's got fish on it. And what's interesting about it is that it brings it down to about $2.25 a yard. These are either 69 or 72 inch bolts and for the price they have what looks to be a 50-50 or a 65-35 cotton polyester blend. That's for clothes, regular shirts and pants. They've got a fleece back. It's obvious that's for sweats or something like that you might want to build. And then they have a 50 denier with a vinyl backing. That's a gear material. That's for doing bags. Now Nancy pointed out right away we could make ponchos out of those because this is an interesting... the camouflage actually works. It sounds weird. Mark has got dead fish on it. Well, they're not dead. They're alive. Okay, but what's interesting about it is that I'm looking to make sure, God why is it going to bring fart on this too, this horrible, well because I'm getting older, that's why. No, it's because they have a million things on the plate. But what's interesting about this is that again, the price is right. Okay, in other words, $2.00 is something. For some materials, they aren't going to be seen depending on where you use them. So, the neat thing about this is that this would be very useful in many different points of operation. If you've got a little sweatshop you've built up, which is something I have recommended. And here we go. Thank you, Mark. Yeah, I see you did keep a note. Yes, I did. CamelFabric Depot, you know, Depok. CamelFabricDepot.com. camofabricdepot.com. Now this camouflage, these particular camouflages are over in the clearance section. It will be very obvious when you see them. All of the patterns that are of that type are buy one yard, get one yard free. But the three options, depending on what you're doing, here's an idea if you want to make, for instance, field jacket liners. The fleece type material, it's in a camouflage. Actually, the colors are good for spring, summer, early fall. It's in the green range. So remember, take a look at it. You'll see if you go to, again, camo fabric. depot.com, camo, fabric, depot, D-E-P-O-T dot com. And it's buy one, get one free. Definitely worth checking out. I recommend it. We're probably going to get some of the vinyl back because there are some other ideas that we've had. Needless to say, we talked about doing these magazine bandoliers. I don't care what material they made out of, but this is a better quality material than we were going to buy. The pattern, if you shift it out and angle the cut, you're going to have a confusing image to begin with. Once you see what I'm talking about, well yes, the fish are in there, but the fish are not like a dead fish laying on its side on a piece of cloth. That's not what it looks like. So it would be interesting. I'm going to experiment with it anyway. Like I said, it's perfect for doing magazine bandoliers. In many cases, those are going to get used and dropped anyway. And rather than just doing it in OD green, camouflage is good. And again, also good quality for doing back panels. Example, if I were doing a bunch of these bandoliers, I've got a back panel that's going to be on the extended flap side. Well, guess what? Do that in that material to save the other material that's going to cost you more so that you can stretch your pennies on every piece of equipment that you build. Prior piper planning prevents piss poor performance and this is one of the ways we can do it. So take the time, check it out, and the rain is coming down. It's not that bad. It's typical Michigan summer squalls. That's what we're getting. By the way, the ducks are really happy. Oh yes. They're getting ozone and they're getting fresh. mildly contaminated from Canadian waste. Water from the sky, it's really cool. Mildly contaminated. Yeah, contaminated a lot. God, we don't know what's in it. Oh, those poor ducks. Anyway, I don't think they're going to care. So next year real quick, also mentioning BudK.com. Shop there, look to see what they have. There are two things. Number one, They may have these survival tabs in stock again, but they have had these survival tabs that I've got a can of right here, a vial of, it's like a canteen container. They have those on occasion and they have had buy one, get one on those depending on how they hit the schedule. So, survival tabs, survival tabs, survival tabs, go over to www.budk.com, look to see if they have them. Don't worry about the flavor. If there are a mix of flavors, get one of each. Mix it up so you have a change of what you don't like and you don't like and you still won't like. But you know what? When you're starving, it will taste like steak. Okay, so it's that simple. And again, survival tabs. I recommend that you carry one of those per person. You don't have to carry your combat kit, though that's where I put mine. I put it on my combat load, not on my backpack. These are, that is the food stuff that we carry in addition to whatever else you cram in your pockets between your field jacket, your battle blouse, and your pants. So a solution. They also do have gas masks there. I don't know what they have, and I do not know what the prices are right now. Like everything else, certain things are going up because they realize there are only so many and the market is pressing right now. It's like gasoline. Across Michigan here, gasoline hit an average, which I'm again just crossing the state today. $3.39 was the base in some locations up to $3.59 a gallon. This up from last weekend from only a few days ago where we were at, we just paid $2.74 a gallon. So, between Saturday, when I filled all the containers up, thank you Lord for letting me do the right thing, we filled all the containers up, it was 374 a gallon, and today, in the same location, it was 339 a gallon. So you do the math. And in many other locations, it was higher than $3.52, 53 cents a gallon. But it was rollercoastering. There are some locations that are just more expensive all the time, no matter what. You all know that. You live this world as well as I have. But just a heads up, fuel, we've talked about. Hopefully everybody did top off the tanks. Keep your tanks topped off. If you're in a threat environment situation, personally, it's summertime. You have an excuse. I would have somebody mobilize your retreats. You should be going through and checking all of your systems. One of the things to remember about letting stuff sit, bugs get into things. You may have missed something about what Rodentia slash rodents can get into. You need to check all of your equipment. This is a conversation I had today with several people about just their personal gear because they're going to be traveling. Now since they're going to go to a frightening location They need to take their weapons and their basic kit with them. Go ahead champion there, sir Hey Mark, this is Irish Whiskey. I just wanted to mention you were just talking about checking equipment. I had some equipment stored in a dry location, which unfortunately I should have had it in a barrel or something. It was a bunch of some web gear. And come to find out, I found rats got into MREs and gnawed on some pieces of equipment. Nothing is a loss. It just chewed on a little bit. So I just found that out recently going through a bunch of stuff. Over. Very good. One of the things you remember about MRE, if you have the original, if you have regular military, especially the earlier brown bag, the dark brown bag, those bags have an anti-rodent, anti-insect additive to the plastic. And that's why a lot of times you'll find MRE bags if you've got the old MRE bag pattern. I don't know about the new ones, they look pretty junky. I'm not talking about the Sopaco, they're vinyl. They're just Visequeen. But even the new US military ones, I think they've dumped that because they're chancing out on everything they can, which they will come to rue. But then again, the people who are stealing the money from the US, they don't care about the troops. You think the Israelis care about American troops? They're open and they can get as many of our people killed as possible. That's what they're trying to do. So, support isn't what it was. But if you had any of the old brown MREs, you notice that, man, they nibbled on the bag, but they only nibbled for so long, and then they just seemed to stop. Well, that's because they got nauseous or hopefully keeled over and died, since you didn't see the dead rat right there. Probably just got sick, because that was the plan. It was designed to repel. So, if you got it in the older bags, like I told everybody, don't throw them away. Trim them out with a pair of scissors. Don't ever just tear them up. trim them out with a pair of scissors and reuse them. Re-seal them down the road. Okay, we're at the top and I got to get out of the way because we are switching over to again co-broadcasting the next hour with... And we're on the march, so stay in the march. You will be able to listen in on all the other conventional systems, but I will not be interacting with you during the two hours because we're going to be running off of, quite frankly, speed. Good evening, everybody. So that way it's a little easier for everybody to operate. Wednesday night, it's June 18, 2025. The time is 6.59 p.m. and we are right on time. Everything seems to be streaming properly and then the rest is up to God. We are going to have a nice little night tonight. I know that many in the audience wanted to see an immediate or as quick as possible part two for our talks with Mark from Michigan. Just because there was so much that we are, you know, we lay down a lot of foundation, a lot of stories there. We were talking about the the American militia movement that was kind of coming to a fever pitch, a peak in the 1990s with so much turmoil. You know, those of us who were in middle school years and having a ball out there, you weren't really paying attention to it. When you find, when you hear that there was a bomb scare at the at the the the olympics in atlanta and stuff like that things like you happen you know what you know some something weird is going on in the uh... in the bill clinton white house and who's this monica lewinsky and what's an intern and you know There are some things that we're conscious of if you're 8, 9, 10 years old. But other than that, we've got a lot of dots connected the last time we were talking. We were talking about Rex 84 and then everything from Waco to Ruby Ridge to Oklahoma City and so much more. In fact, tonight we're going to probably start with a question about Waco because where we left off last time was a question. that Mark wanted us to ask about the fires at Waco. something very particular. It's something in particular about the fires and I don't know if you remember that but we'll get to it right off top. We're also going to be talking about a lot of OG alternative media figures that he's encountered along the way and may have known over the years. I have at least three that I want to talk about tonight but also whatever you guys have as far as questions go, please send it in to Super Chat because not only is it a great way for you to contribute to a show like we have tonight, Perhaps on another night where we're not getting... I almost feel like this is the second... big push of information. And then maybe at another time down the road when Mark calls in, we can start taking calls from the audience. You guys can ask your own questions. But you have an opportunity to send some in through either Super Chat on YouTube or the Rumble Rants or quite frankly, superchat.com, which is powered by Streamlabs. So that's, you know, that is if you're thinking about what the most of the Super Chat goes to the show, it's quite frankly superchat.com. But I don't care how you contribute to the show and what's taken off the top because something is better than nothing. And with everything that we're planning for this summer, as far as trying to introduce ourselves to new people and to also protect ourselves from desert dwelling nut jobs and everything else. What are you talking about? It's so vague. Who's this desert freak he's talking about? Oh, you'll know. You'll know. I'll relish the opportunity to tell you all about it. But yeah, just support the show however you like. And when you talk about Super Chats, it is a nightly sponsorship that also comes a very long way in contributing to the overall conversation. So Mark from Michigan, he'll be on in just a couple of minutes. And I think that's also going to be available on the the shortwave dial as well. So we'll talk about that in a second. Okay, now let's get to the, what's it called? It's the, a little bit of grab bagging. Some big things about the, oh well that's the Kira, the Don. Thank you so much Kira. Karen Reed found not guilty of murder and retrial in the boyfriend's death. She did have a driving under the influence, I think, or operating under the influence. That's O-U-I. I'm hoping that maybe we can get Megan Fox or somebody to come on the show with us on Friday night to talk about the ins and outs of the retrial. I don't know because I don't know if Matt is going to be here. He's getting tattoo worked on. He's covering up George Washington. He's correcting George Washington. We'll have to talk about that when he's on. You know, because that goes back years when he first revealed George Washington to us and a couple of you went, oh, hmm. Interesting work. Anyway, I didn't know that he was going to cover it up, but apparently Matt thought it needed some correcting too. So we'll talk about that whenever he comes in. I don't know if it's going to be on Friday. He might be in the chair for a few hours. So either way, maybe we'll talk about Karen Reed. Trump privately approved attack plans for Iran, but has withheld the final order to give Iran some time to, I guess, bend the knee. That's what we're hearing out of the Wall Street Journal. Trump privately approved attack plans for Iran but has withheld the final order just saying giving you one more chance So I don't know if that comes up tonight But you never know because we might get through all of I want to go to retrospective I want to go back a few more decades Leading you want to talk about the militia movement? It wasn't just the 90s It was leading up to that and in fact one of the things that we brought up in the last time we spoke with Mark was about how this was really burgeoning in the 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s. And I'd like to get him to discuss that just a little bit more and that'll be that. Alright? So we're gonna call Mark in just a couple of minutes. What else do we have over here? What is this? Oh shit. Leonardo's Curse. Chris, my producer, and I have been dubbing all these recent stories out of India. Leonardo's Curse came on the show with Chrissy Mayer and went in on India and everybody else. And now we've got a tourist destination, a bridge collapses in India. Of course, last week we had that horrendous plane crash. But not only that, did you see this one? Look at this headline from last week. Prince William's billionaire pal Sun Jae Kapoor dead at 53 years old after swallowing a bee during a polo match Did you hear about this? longtime friend Sun Jae Kapoor has died at 53 after swallowing a bee That triggered a fatal heart attack billionaire businessman and chairman of global car parts giant Sonia Comstar collapsed Sona clunk comstar is the is it the company collapsed during a polo match in England on Thursday. Former husband of Bollywood superstar Karisma Kapoor was stung by a bee on the mouth, which subsequently triggered anaphylactic shock that caused his heart to stop, the outlet added. So we have dubbed this Leonardo's curse because it has been nothing but bad news ever since she came on the show for India and everybody associated with the country. So I don't know what to tell you. Doesn't look good. Other than that, I would just say another big thank you to Keto Brains. I would say... Get this into your routine. Get Kato brains into your health routine. I usually dump this right, right down the old gullet over here. I don't even put it into anything when it's in the studio. It's a super formula for optimizing brain function. Whether you need razor sharp focus at work, it's there for you. If you need a couple extra reps during your physical training, it's there for you. No sugar, no gas station energy, drink jitters, no crash, something like that. It's just aminos and healthy fats. If you want to try some, email me frank and quite frankly dot TV. If you want some samples, but you can also get just 20% off your first order right now using promo code FRANKLY on KetoBrainsWithAZ.com. That's it. Let's get this show started. Thank you all so much. It's not about food. It's about keeping those ants in line. It's why we're going back. Does anybody else want to stay? Jingle the ding. Jingle the pringle the fringle the ding. Pringle the pringle the fringle the fringle. Jingle the jingle the jingle. The fringle the jing. 709 p.m. What the hell are you doing tonight? What the hell's your problem? I'm just sitting over here, the world's melting down, and you're laughing. Bunch of weirdos. Well, I hope your VCRs are set to record tonight. I will bring it up. I have to bring it up at the end. I'm not gonna dedicate time to it. But he should know that this has been, you know, there's things that stick with this audience. I know the random things that stick with this audience. Methylene Blue jokes now, VCR, VHS jokes now, what else? Cat jokes with certain guests? I know... I just know this audience and at some point it will... at some point it will go up. But no significant time. We're not going to give any significant time to it. That's all I have. Alright, okay. So, let's call Mark, shall we? Mark from Michigan, Mark Kurnke. In our first broadcast we discussed his military background, early years in alternative media, and some of the pivotal events that brought the militia movement to a fever pitch in the 90s. So... Your call cannot be completed at this time. Please hang up. Really? Really? The call can't be completed? Why don't you go F yourself? Who the hell do you think you are? Who are you even? Mark from Michigan? 1, 2, 3? There we go. 1, 2, 3. Do we have a copy? We do. It's great to have you on. How the hell you been? Getting wet and rainy here. Michigan's got a thunderstorm wave running through right now. I'm watching the ducks, which are very happy from the second story. Does that mean it's going to be our rain in a couple of days over here in New York? Is that how it works? You might be the next one. It could fish hook that way. We'll see what happens. Right now, it just came up from Indiana. And yeah, it probably will swing east, go across Lake Erie, head up to Ontario. it'll be right in your backyard because it'll head down to St. Lawrence. That's probably what it's going to do too. Watch for some moisture. We will. And if it does, it's going to come in the form of steam because I saw that we're going to hit triple digits next week. So yeah, it's crazy, but it is summertime after all. How's everything been? I know exactly where I want to start tonight, but first we just want to get a little bit of a report for you. It's been weeks. Well, so long, Mom. I'm off to drop the bomb, so don't wait up for me. Oh, wait a minute. Did I say that? Look at all of the bizarre twists that have happened just in the last couple of weeks. I was promised that if I voted for a certain person, we weren't going to go to war. Did you remember that promise? I remember that promise. I guess my memory span is only supposed to be between three weeks and three months. And then I'm supposed to go in a catatonic brain part and just act like an idiot or a lemming and jump over the cliff with a bunch of other crazy people who just want to go to war. I think that's fascinating. It is. And you know, I think the same thing we were talking about it. I think that the audience here is largely just anti-war no matter what. I haven't, and I hope, of course, that it just ends up being just more brinksmanship as usual because no matter who's in office, we're always on the brink of something, Mark. At this time we got into an open can of really bad sauerkraut that's been sitting too long on the shelf and the can is rotted on the inside. Somebody is trying to tell us we need to take a big spoonful of that rotten, dirty sauerkraut, probably with a little bit of dead fish oil stuck in there for good measures. I think we're in trouble, but that's just me. Yes, as a matter of fact, we just, we were, we, the last couple of days, well actually for about six days, we have been on maintenance mode for the second hour, not this hour, but the next hour, so you got time to break out your radio. your AM-FM shortwave radio, and if you're a ham operator, you can tune in also, they already know that, to 6.160 regular shortwave. That will be for the next hour from 8 to 9 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, and that is on WBCQ, the planet, and that's 6.160 regular shortwave where this program will be heard all around a third to half of the planet tonight. So, you're going to be talking to Czechs and possibly Nigerians. I know you'll be talking to people from Brazil, the Caribbean also, many points of the Caribbean. So, there's a lot of people that... Quite frankly, we'll be waiting to tonight and be able to speak to you, which is really cool. Personally, I can't wait to say hello to all of our friends in Bangladesh again. That was fun. But yeah, it's a very cozy night when you're on, Mark, and we have that added element to everything that we're doing over here. So, all right, let's jump right back into where we left off, because you left us with a question the last time we spoke. And you said, Frank, you have to remember, next time we get together, Remember to ask me about the fires at Waco. Now of course, Waco, all the people remember, even if you were born after the fact, if you look into it, the fires are front and center. But you said in particular, a fire ritual, a ritual that was happening at Waco, what the hell were you talking about? As a matter of fact, there are a number of people that you most, the controlled media didn't do anything to interview, didn't make an attempt to interview. Number one, let's qualify Waco was a vast consumption of manpower. One of the things that the Fed did not want any of you to know is that it took everything they had from around the country to maintain a daily siege on just one location in the United States. Now because of this, most of you don't know this. When they were during the early days of the siege, they started recruiting from SWAT teams from all over the United States. Right here in Washtenaw County, volunteers from the Washtenaw County Sheriff's Department SWAT team, Ann Arbor Police, and other departments around the country, not just here in Michigan, rotated down and volunteered to stare at the Branch Davidians in their home. They had to do this because even the initial attack took almost all of the central ATF's divisions manpower. Now I've mentioned before that they were practicing at Fort Hood for a full year before they attacked. But when they did attack, each of them came together. They had to take manpower that was from a detachment from, say, Kansas. Another detachment came in from Oklahoma. Another detachment was obviously from Texas. But they were not all from the same location. After the first day's attack, which thank you, thank God failed, what happened is they had to start pulling in manpower. So as the siege progresses, there are a certain number of feds who stay on site. Now why am I, this is a lot of qualification, but the reason I bring this up is that there were several feds who stayed for the whole siege. What they did is during the siege, they videotaped the entire activity, top to bottom. They literally were videotaping, you know, making snide comments, laughing about killing the women and kids, making all kinds of jokes. Now I'll explain to you how we know that beyond the shadow of doubt just in a moment. Meanwhile, through the Hole of the Siege, another group that showed up there, that had to be there, was Texas Public Safety, sometimes known as the Red Bulls. If you ever look at Texas, you'll notice that in the last couple of instances here with some of the riots, you see these guys with these really bright red, well, medium red circles on their arms. Those are the equivalent to what most states have in the way of state police. Public safety personnel had to man probably about a third of the siege during Waco. They certainly maintained all of the outer security, but here's the thing. They also maintained control of the motor pool for the tanks, the robots, and all the other weapons that they brought in in preparation for murdering the Branch Davidians. In addition to that, they also managed rotation of personnel for the inner ring, the second ring, and the outer siege ring of the Branch Davidian Church and Home. Because of this, everybody had to be used. They had to pull people in. Some individuals stayed for almost the entire siege. One of them was the OIC, Officer in Charge. He was a lieutenant with the Texas Public Safety. After the siege, I had him up on the air multiple times. In fact, in our archives, I have, usually I would bring him in for three hours, a full three hours of programming, and we literally did a debrief on the air from the beginning of the siege to the end of the siege. And we did this on worldwide, WWC, our worldwide Christian radio on shortwave. We were on satellite, on three different satellite systems, and we were of course on AM and FM and on satellite pickup also, regular satellite from, again, commercial uplinks. We also had a number of other officers, both from the sheriff's department's local, etc., that reported on what transpired and the hypocrisy and wickedness of the feds while they were there. Okay? But the last day was most critical. On the last day, a unique group that no one had ever seen before showed up in the morning at Waco, the day of the burn. These individuals, there was an entire detachment, were totally alien to the ATF, the FBI, the Russians that were there, the Israelis that were there, and the Brits that were there. Okay? They were an American unit. As he pointed out, before the burn started, he was told to go to a GP medium tent that was used for meetings. This officer, who was, by the way, in charge of all of the Texas public safety personnel there, he was the OIC Officer in Charge. He went into the tent and there's nobody there but this guy sitting in the middle of the tent in a chair, a folding chair, and he's got his arms crossed and he goes, come here. And the only thing he kept saying to, he said it three times, he goes, Semper Fi, Semper Fi, don't you forget Semper Fi. In other words, always faithful, always faithful, always faithful. Well, this unit is the unit that went in and shot the Branch Davidians. When the APCs go into the, nobody does that. You don't take a vehicle into any building or burning building and perforate it. Well they did this because the APCs had insertion teams. The insertion teams were wearing full mop gear, they were wearing gas masks with full hood. They were combat kitted, both pistol and they had rifle. When they went into the building, they popped the door, went in through the smoke filled areas of the building because it was on fire by that point or started to work fire. Also it was full of CSCN, you've got to remember that's like solid, dense CSCN smoke. This is why a lot of the Branch Davidians were shot in the head because they were shot in the head not by suicide. They were shot in the head at point blank range. Problem. However many the number is that they sent in they lost six people in the fire the shooters did During the video which you can watch which is Waco rules of engagement write this down people Waco rules of engagement I want you to watch the whole video But I want you to pay attention when they're burning the place down because in that video if you watch There's a guy that comes out of a second floor window. He's wearing full mop chemical gear. He's carrying an M16. He has a gas mask on. He walks out. He steps out through the window on the second floor with the building on fire behind him. He walks through the edge of the roof. A combat engineer vehicle pulls up, he steps off the roof onto the turret, it pulls away. The guy, meanwhile, walks down the front of the turret, we're down the glacis plate, and the vehicle pulls right up next to an ATF and I think two other FBI agents that are in full combat kit. And he jumps off and stands there and they're watching the fire. Who's this guy that came out of the building? He's one of the murderers, okay? Now while this is happening, remember that all of the official video was done that you see for propaganda purposes, mostly to terrorize the American population, was done by the controlled press fight, more than a mile away, and they were using telephoto lenses to only see one side of the building. But the ATF agents and other agents were running cameras because they were going to put in their personal brag up archive, which they did. At the time when they were evacuating and the building was going up in flames and while they were shooting the people at the back that were trying to escape through the public area, the general commerce area like a kitchen, the big kitchen open area they had for meetings, the ATF and FBI agents and other agents, but not the state police, not the sheriff's department and none of the volunteers, the ATF and FBI lined up from the far point on the right of the building around behind it and around to the front on the left side as you would see it. So they could not be seen from the camera point. They knew they couldn't. Progressively, they all, at a given point, they put their hands over their head. Now they're all radio connected. They put their hands over their head and they start bowing to the flames. in unison and they continue, they don't do this like once or twice. They repeatedly over and over again bow to the flames and they bow to the flames. This is called on video, this thing in particular is all on video. Yes, this is DHS that was done by an ATF agent. Here's how the video was acquired. After the siege, most of the ATF units that participated in the beginning, many of which were held around until the end because they needed the manpower, many of the individuals were let go by the ATF. One of the individuals, while he was being reprimanded in the post-burn period after the siege, his wife contracted cancer. He, of course, needed money. Through the many different sources that we had, the individual offered his entire video collection that he had taken at Waco for a market price. It was up for grabs. So, Linda Thompson, with a whole bunch of other people putting a little bit of money together, bought his collection of VHS tapes that were first person original copy for $10,000. The video, when you watch, I'm going to point something out, all of the video that you see, most of it, from the burn point in Waco Rules of Engagement came from that collection. So why didn't they show the feds bowing to the flames? So the bowing is not in Rules of Engagement? No, it's not. Is it available for the public to watch anywhere? Hold on now. I'm going to explain to you the the step-by-step testing history of all of the videos not just that one McNulty is the man you're gonna go look at this This is all Patriot history every average person doesn't have any interest in real history. So they were ignoring all of this but McNulty was an independent film producer Go look go look watch the video, but he was what it is is he was a former Fed now How did Waco Rules of Engagement, which is a very damning video to the ATF and the FBI, how did it get made? Plus, there's a second video that was done afterwards, okay? Well, originally, Waco Rules of Engagement was supposed to be a sponsored hit piece against the Branch Davidians. The original production was financed by Robert Redford, You know who Robert Redford is? Right? Okay. Robert Redford financed McNulty, a former Fed, to actually produce a hit video that was supposed to be as damning of the Branch Davidians as possible. It was done for the Sundance Film Festival. If you look in the 90s, look up Waco Rules of Engagement Sundance Film Festival, You will find that it was released there. The video is not what Robert Redford wanted and he pissed a fit. Here's the problem. Linda Thompson had the video. Now I'm going to tell you something right now. Before my Lord and the Savior Jesus Christ, I am a first person witness to this because I had both the copy of the video in hand. and was able to watch the copies of all of the videos, every last one of them, that were available. But most specifically, the bowing to the flames, I've seen it per first person. It's not somebody said, somebody hurt. And you're saying that that's a force of, that's a force that's comprised of people from multiple agencies. It was from all of the Fed agencies. Nobody from the Sheriff's Department, nobody from the Texas Public Safety with their state police, and no one from any of the policing agencies, regular police, participated in it. In fact, they stepped back. Now, that's a second story. That's a sidebar to the original video because we didn't take the video. And the other cops did it was done by the ATF agents that were there, the NAATF agent. Now understand he sold that collection. McNulty had that in hand when he did the first video, Waco Rules of Engagement, but he didn't use it. Now there's a backstory to that. He's a former Fed. My personal attitude on this is that he was trying to find out just exactly how much the Patriot movement knew because we are intel collectors and we're first person intel collectors so we had a vast amount of knowledge on what happened. In fact, if you watch the first, second, third, fourth, fifth, and sixth Waco hearings in Congress, You will find that almost all of that data wasn't collected by Congress because they couldn't find their ass if their life depended on it. Instead, it was because of independent collection agencies that got hold of forensics data, telecommunications, all the other stuff, everything that was available, but they just didn't seem to be able to find. They didn't make the effort. So what happened is the individuals who were motivated congressmen, we made contact with them and provided an ongoing steady source of heavily documented date, time, place, who, what, where, when. And so they couldn't wiggle out of it, which is why instead of there just being one Waco hearing, there were seven. Because every time they tried to lie their way out of it, they got caught in their lives. So then they had to come back again because they thought they'd re-engineer it and they failed again. Now, the videos that were available, McNulty had access to. And he paid Linda Thompson, just as Linda Thompson paid the ATF agent, for access to the videos. The argument later on that came up was the recent McNulty, by the way a former Fed, so I consider he's just a spit-swapper and ring-knocker, okay? He did do a good job with Waco Rules Encagement. Watch it guys, you tell me if it didn't work. It didn't do what Robert Redford did. It virtually damned the feds across the board. However, his plan was that if he showed that he had so much information, the federal government would charge the agencies, you all know how this is going to work, that he was going to charge the agencies with crimes, you know, criminal activity because these were actual murders and actual crimes that had taken place that were well documented. What's interesting about this is that the second video that's done by McDulty covers the use of demolition charges and all of the evidence that was readily available that was on site. Now, in addition, the lieutenant that I was talking about earlier handed to me a vast portfolio of photographs that he took of the event and the day. Now, the problem with his situation, while he had known about what the feds were doing, His position during the time of the activity when they were burning the church down put him basically out in front of the cameras for the press and in front of the Branch Davidian's front doors. Okay, but Mark, are we going to get back? The question really focused on ritualistic aspect to what we know is a fish-in-the-barrel act of murder. Okay, and so you're talking about the ATF agent who had a health emergency in the family, they needed to be able to get some money for treatment, so they sold off all of their personally acquired and filmed tapes, and then of course those tapes were sold off yet again, and inside those tapes that collection is of course the the hand on the head and the bow into the fire over and over again, you swear you've seen it yourself. But, I mean, anybody who is looking to have something to go off of instead of our theory versus your theory will say, hey, well, this is no theory. The question is, where is it? First of all, and I, okay, hold on, that's my point, McNulty had full access and McNulty has copies. Now, the question is because, again, my argument was that this person should not be trusted, but I was not the custodian of the document. It's just literally McNulty accessed every bit of technical information. that was available and in fact had interviewed. This is why again the second video covers a lot of what happened back story, what happened with how they killed the women and kids in the cold cellar, the storm shelter, etc. It was questioned and again, this is where everybody confronted him because we all knew it was available. McNulty then locked up the database. Now, my argument was that it should have been reproduced and a complete set should have been separately run. Linda Thompson's dead now, so I can't do any more to question her on what little logic she might have used. She was a lawyer. See, my problem with this is, and I'm warning everybody now, that whenever you have officers of the court, whenever you have individuals who are involved with the FET, their first sworn oath is to protect the business, not to protect the truth. Okay, so let me ask you this. My biggest problem with this is, again, that, well, I'm nicer than some people because what I should have done is literally just pull the stuff sideways. However, it wasn't under my custodial ship. I had access to it, but it was not under our control. And at the time, especially just after Waco, the argument was that they were going to go after the feds and bring the feds into court. And we didn't want to flip too many cards and we were going to catch them in the wind. You know, well, none of that happened. I've seen all of this before. I've watched repeat ad nauseam this type of, well, again, can you call it naivety or is it stupidity? Because our enemy acts consistently over and over and over again the same way. And any time you let any actor or try to give, you know, the benefit of the doubt to any actor in any of the Fed mechanism, well, it's like you just saw with Donald Trump and what's going on overseas. I'm not going to take you to war and we're going to war. Well, let me ask you again. A variation on that is what happened with the database, with the possibility of a very effective communications base being used to get the word out. It did. A lot of information did get out. If you haven't seen... the ownership has been transferred at least two times and but there's no place for anybody to go view it. Now from your ability to view this and the people you've been able to talk to who might have had any insight on the ground as far as what these agents were doing with the hand on the head and the rhythmic bowing and all that stuff, were you over the years able to obtain any kind of information about What the ritual was about, what deity they might be... was it just a big mockery? Was it a mockery? No, no, first of all, it was not a mockery. Okay, and remember, literally when you see the... What do you know about the tikka ved? In this particular situation, it was a Moloch ceremony is what it looked like. If you've seen any of the ball or Moloch, mimics that are done. These characters all did the meter, the miter, forgive me the miter type with the hands. They didn't just lift the hand straight over their head. They did the 90 degree angle consistently. Now some of these people were standing on the ground, some were standing on bridge, divinity and wrecked vehicles. Some were in different locations in this arc that went around the far side, the left and right and far side of the back of the building. Now here's the thing. Meanwhile, the survivors of the shooters that went inside had to be assisted and many of them, a number of them died inside, okay? I have photographs from the lieutenant of the first thing that the feds did as the fire died down and while the feds started dispersed from the ceremony where they were bowing. First thing that this white cube van came in, stopped right in front of where the front doors would be, A team jumped out, they opened the back end, they pulled out a number of body bags. They went right to the front doors of the Branch Canadian Church, grabbed the front doors, put them in the cube van. But then the teams went to specific points in the wreckage while it was still smoldering. And this is where the fire had just died down, but they went to specific locations. They grabbed specific bodies, put them into body bags, walked them back over, threw them in the back of the cube van, and unasked the AO. They left. So, what they were doing is recovering the shooters. Now, the argument is that even the lieutenants said that the rumoration that came from the Fed is that the people that were brought into shooters were quote unquote bracket Delta Force. Now, it's not called Delta Force, but at that time it's 19, you know, think about the year, 1993, that's how people knew and would identify them. In the week after a convenient burn accident takes place at Fort Hood in which a number of special forces personnel, everybody died in the aircraft. The aircraft guy looked at the wreckage. It did not appear to be a crash. It wasn't a smash tag or anything like that. Looks like they took an old Huey, parked it out in the field, put the bodies inside, lit a couple of Willy Peeps, let the fuel do the rest, and they had a crash. What they did is they covered for the bodies that were lost in the building in Waco. Again, if you watch Waco Rules of Engagement, you can see one of them walk out of the building. Who would be in the building? Well, let me shift gears now again. Before we go to the next, I have a voicemail question from you that I guess... It's a little bit more broad spectrum and actually gets a little bit more into the Rex 84 stuff that you were talking about the first time you were on. But since you mentioned it, how do you know, and again, is there any way that we can verify that Israeli and British forces were there on the ground? Absolutely. Hold on, hold on. Right there. Let's stop right there. First of all, the BBC with the Russians, let's start with the Russians. The BBC did a three-part series that was broadcast on the BBC bragging about what was going on at Waco and they specifically covered the Russian psychological warfare unit. They had brought in a couple of full-size semi vans. In the military, a van is a cargo slash looks like a box truck or it can be a semi trailer that is configured for maintenance, electronics or construction and operations. In this case, these were electronic vans, electronics vans. The dying rabbit sounds and all the rest of that was managed by the Russians who were brought in. If you watch any of the government hearings, in fact the man died right after the first one, the man who invented FLIR explained what it is that the aircraft above Waco was observing. because everybody that presented it in earlier testimony lied. The inventor of FLIR pointed out that the British SAS pilots and personnel who were operating the equipment were using American Standard that he had established and built. It was denied but that had to be admitted that for instance, and that's where the British contingent comes in, the British contingent were the individuals who were flying over American soil the FLIR aircraft that hovered over the Branch Davidians through the hull of the siege. The Israeli personnel came in as part of the ATF, FBI, MJTF and JTF, which is multi-jurisdictional task force, and joint task force element, which was multinational. The Israelis probably were the managers. The officer in charge of the state police constantly had to deal with the Israeli Mossad personnel or Israeli secret police, whoever the hell they were, since they weren't allowed to question their identity. So at least three nations were on the ground, three different elements were on the ground. But let's remember something. The Branch Davidians weren't all from the United States, were they? Everybody understand that? They weren't all Americans. Did anybody ever do a study? Ever follow up and actually look to see who the Branch Davidians were? I haven't. Well, take the time because there's a hundred, you know, look how many victims there are. Well, what's interesting is that, again, the Israelis of, well, we don't know how they push themselves in, but they typically do. They're operating all over the United States right now. While we speak, they're getting ready to do something to us to help promote what's going on overseas. But in this situation, Americans had to deal with them and the, again, the follow-up congressional records, the congressional hearings, they tried desperately to deflect this information, which is what probably the person in it, and we're bringing this up, they're questioning it because desperately they're trying not to acknowledge it. See, after all, what it means is that, no, this isn't anything new. This has been going on for quite some time. And in this case, this was a blatant police state action to try and terrorize the population of the United States. There's two aspects of this. You're going into the globalist phase where they were getting ready to push NAFTA and GAD. If you listen to most of the comments in social media made by a bunch of different pundits right now, they keep benchmarking 1994 and 1995 as the jump off or the ledge where all of a sudden, number one, the government stopped worrying about budget. Number two, they seemed also to have brought in a lot of other economic elements to manipulate the American economy, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, guess what kids? This is the precursor leading up to and as I said in the last time the last time we were here the purpose of Waco was supposed to be the Fiesta resistance it was supposed to be the cherry on the top of the banana split of attacking gun owners manufacturers and FFLs It was not planned by Bill Clinton. It was planned by Neocon George Herbert Walker Bush And by the way, in the seven different congressional hearings, both Senate and congressional by the way, at least in three of them, it was demonstrated beyond a shadow of a doubt because they had to produce the timeline. How did this abortion get started? Well, guess what? They had to acknowledge that a year before the attack, well, a year before the attack put you 12 months into the Bush administration, Bill Clinton had nothing to do with it, but Bill Clinton was anti-gun. He's a globalist. He's joined at the hip with the Bushes. Guess what? It was a natural extension and its purpose was, in the initial, if the attack had gone the way it was supposed to, it was supposed to be a big gun confiscation. And it would be the excuse for why they need to have, you know, grab the guns. Now let's not forget, only a short time later, they did the assault weapons ban. And if they'd had the proper motivation, they'd have ramrotted more through, but they couldn't get more through. Okay. All right. So they're right there. That's a premise for why they did it. Go ahead. Okay. So that's a perfect segue for this next thing. And then we're going to get back to questions from the audience right after this. But you were talking about, right there again, you just brought up the pinnacle of all the action in the 1990s and what this was the reason for. But even on the first time that we spoke with each other, Before we even got on the air, you had mentioned to me, you said, listen, well, you know, the militia movement of the 90s, you're not just talking about the 90s, and you're not, you have to understand the 80s. But you went a couple of steps further than that last time. And I don't want this to take up three hours because we're going to have to, we're going to talk about several decades now, but you went as far as saying, It's not even about the 80s leading into the 90s, but it's not even about, of course, you know, when we think of the 60s and the 70s, we think about cultural counter revolutions and all that other stuff. And we think about tumultuous times and political assassinations. So that's crazy enough in itself. But you said that what came to a head in the 90s actually started in the late 40s and 50s, which For anybody that just looks back casually on those years after the war, we look at that as like Pax Americana, where it's just the years that the suburbs were exploding and culture was nice and stable and there were no real big time problems that we started seeing in the 60s and the 70s. If you can, skip through the decades to show how we went from just the end of World War II right into the 90s and have it all string together. In the 30s with the Great Depression, you have two factions. The first one is never going to be given any coverage. It was the American Patriot Movement of that day. What happened is, in 1929 with the Great Depression, a lot of people knew it was coming. Many people knew that it was a foreign influence that was going to try to undermine the economy. the population was better armed than the military. In fact, they always whine about that. We need a bigger military! We were so small! Well, that's because the population as a whole was armed. And not only that, but guys, we owned tanks, we owned artillery, we owned machine guns. We didn't rob banks. That was the mafia and organized crime that did that. But what they didn't like, especially since what they were doing was a power grab and outside faction. The people who brought you the Federal Reserve. A plant created a collapse, pulled the money supply out of the United States. Well, it didn't go the way they expected for two reasons. Number one, not everybody was caught flat-footed. Also, people organized in advance individuals under the traditional format of militia. Gotta remember, that's almost 100 years ago now. Well, successfully, they blocked a lot of activity that otherwise the Fed wanted to proceed with under what eventually would be the War Powers Act 1933. The three instruments you need to look at to understand how close we came to a civil war in that period of time is number one. The, well, no, there's a fourth one because I'll start with that. The banking crisis. There was no banking crisis. The only banking crisis is that the kosher mafia, the 10 foreign banks that made up the Federal Reserve, were losing control of the money supply because Americans were producing their own cash. and they were doing it by creating local currencies. By the time we get to the end of 1930, over 300 plus private currencies were in circulation across the United States. But to back it up, militia provided the ass to make sure that the Fed couldn't try to steal anything else. Now, the money supply had been pulled back by the Federal Reserve. All the banks pulled all the cash out because the foreign Federal Reserve demanded cash payment. in currency, printed currency or gold. They couldn't get the gold, we privately owned it. So what they did, they declared a banking emergency in 1932-33. Franklin Delano Roosevelt came in, declared the banking emergency, but then also ramrotted what? He ramrotted the War Powers Act of 1933. the Gold Act of 1933 and the Gun Control Act of 1933-1934. It was initiated in 33, it wasn't closed until 34 with regard to all of its actions. In the meantime, the unsung story of the American population was as well armed and was preparing to revolt. You have a story that you will see about a Medal of Honor winner, a certain Marine who was approached by American entrepreneurs and the foreign, the American Legion. Now, the Communists who didn't like that will tell you all about how horrible it was, but we were a breath away from a civil war in 1933-34. Are you talking about Medley-Budler? Yes, when Smedley Butler made that public announcement, Smedley Butler had been approached by not just, he goes, he was approached by money interest. Well, of course you were because American money interests were taking back the banking and money system. The Federal Reserve wasn't the only currency in 1933. You had Ford currency, which was through manufacturer's bank. You had Michigan currency, you had New York currency, you had different municipalities. Dallas had its own currency. And what they did is they used what few Federal Reserve notes or United States notes, which were not Federal Reserve notes, they used those purely as commutation money between the different states. If I had to say, you're okay, where you are, I got to buy iron from you. My Michigan dollars don't work in your state. But Federal Reserve notes as a national currency do. So what you would do is translate Michigan dollars over to Federal Reserve notes that hadn't been turned into the Federal Reserve to bankrupt the country. You in turn set a courier to New York, they pay with the United States notes, translate it into New York or you know, Schmidlap Steel or whatever the notes were. And then you pay what the steel is worth and then you get the steel transported back to Michigan. So you can continue to build things. Okay, wait, wait, wait. Now Mark, this is the first time I've ever seen anything like this. I'm reading it right now because I wanted to, I was thinking, okay, 1933, how many private currencies, you know? To these days you think about cryptocurrency, things like that. Yeah. It's not new. Are you talking about what they're talking about? What I found over here called municipal scripts? It's far more than... Okay, here's the problem with the Internet. Number one, money is sacred. The ring knockers want to be the only ones to control currency. This is why they altered the American money system with the Federal Reserve System before World War I. The fact of the matter is that traditionally I have 100 different notes from 100 different banks that were all currency generated by those banks. Traditionally, the Fed was not the only person, the only entity that could create service notes. Now here's another thing, we're getting off on a side bar here with money, but understand something. There are seven different types of currencies in circulation right now at any given time. You only see three of them. The other four are high bank transmission notes of different types. And they are alien. They are bills and you would recognize that they're bills, but you would think they were funny money. So, currency, when you're taught in a very menial way to understand currency, it's totally different. You can throw everything you know about money. However, anything and everything can be money. In the 80s and 90s, Sun dollars, look that up, you might still find it, they might have called it from the from the database because they do that all the time. But Sun dollars are probably one of the longest running of the independent currencies in the United States. They're in your neck of the woods. They were operating in New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, let's see, Delaware, Maryland, and they were good in West Virginia. Okay, son s un son. Well, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to pull us off. So we're Leading up to the 90s in the militia fever pitch of the 90s now we're getting into the 40s and 50s Let's get through those because I have a lot of I have a lot of questions from the audience I want to get to Absolutely. Okay now in the World War two period in argument is they did World War two because they realized they couldn't stop the depression They couldn't get out of it. They'd already altered the courts with the Buck Act of 1938 We almost went to war, but we never came off that. This is why the Democrats all through the beginning of World War II were paranoid because the Republicans were resisting and said there was no reason for any of these activities. There's all kinds of investigations against the Republicans, just like you see today. If you think this is all new, the enemy has done this for decades. It's just when you don't if you're the guy who's printing the history You just don't make sure anybody reads about the history in the in now what what we don't have at the beginning of World War two is something that they wanted at the end of World War one the League of Nations the League of Nations is still in San Francisco, but it was not able to gain power because Patriots and veterans stopped it at the beginning after World War one So what happens is they start pushing in America where they got everybody overseas, the leftists always do this. They started pushing the UN, changing the name from League of Nations, they always change the name. It's just like ecology, but now you call it climate change. You see how the scam works? The ecologists were no different from the climate changers. I was there, I can give you all the notes. I have files here from when I was in college and watched all this BS. So the fact is that, again, now we get into it's almost the end of World War II. Everybody starts to find out what's happening inside the US. The sugar-coated version is mostly BS. In reality, patriots coming back, especially veterans from overseas, started to organize. There were militia literally all over the country because when they came back, they found out just how deep the leftists had begun to operate on the colleges, what they were doing in many of the major cities. The militia organized also, and the Patriot Movement organized to stop the UN just like they did in 1919 and 1921. Well, you know what they did here in the United States? Utilizing the existing War Powers Act that had been generated from World War II, a series of them, a private and mostly... hmm... Hebrew secret police operation that was all over the country, randomly arrested in each state over 2,000 to 2,800 individuals. Now, does this sound familiar with something you just saw? Can I say January 6th? These individuals were grabbed in a series of raids because they opposed the UN. In Michigan, the entire group were detained for two years without charges, without trial, and without the possibility of release. for two years straight. When were they released? They were released after the confirmation of the United Nations. Well, now a whole lot of People were part of that and they in turn were teaching a whole lot of people about the wicked ways of the regime and the people who hijacked our country who weren't from our country. Not only that, but during, I know that we, even little smaller stories that have kind of slipped into legend and lore, like the Battle of Athens, Tennessee with all those returning veterans that had found that even just their local municipalities had been taken over just by self-interested, local thugs and all that. It wasn't a very big plot, but still, that was it. There's a lot of returning war veterans that came back to America and realized that they probably, many of them probably had a lot of questions of their own. Well, this leads us into the next part. We'll try to get you real quick before the top here. Please. Okay, real quick, Korean War. Why is it the Forgotten War? Remember that's a term for it, you know that, right? The Forgotten War? Why is it called the Forgotten War? Why would you forget that war? Because it was a UN initiative. It wasn't a war, was it? It was a conflict. If it was a war, then we'd have a very different situation. But it was the first of the George Orwell 1984 wars. You had a contained conflict between two forces. You're right out of George Orwell's 1984 with the Malabar Front. in which you could see saw up and down the peninsula get a lot of people killed people they didn't care about Koreans and whoever else they threw in Americans anybody else and other countries don't worry we weren't the only ones there but what's interesting about this is a lot of people were first-person witnesses to exactly what was happening internationally and one of the reasons they needed everybody to forget it is because too many people came back as veterans and said let me tell you what I saw And so, since World War I, they've been coaching everybody to not believe your dad or your uncle when they come back and tell you what they saw. So they can sugar puff or alter the history. We're at the top, so I'll tell you what, I can relate a story that just gives you the classic example of this. But most important here is that after World War II and then after Korea, a whole bunch of people realized it was a movement. Now we have McCarthy come in. And you know McCarthy was crazy because he told you there were communists all through your government. And that's just crazy. Except Those Communists are at the other end of the scale now, and they're right where McCarthy told you they were, and they're doing to this country exactly what McCarthy told you they would do, didn't they? So McCarthy wasn't wrong at all. But the propaganda machine working with the people who were the invaders, well, they did what they were supposed to do. However, here's another group that you don't know anything about, probably. The Minutemen. Now I want you to look that term up in the psycho babble machine called the internet now look up minute men and see what you get for a response now, you know, I know not now actually print in modern minute men Now we MEN not man MEN now while you're doing that you're gonna end up with Oh probably 28,000 pop-ups right away. Then it's gonna go to 57 and then it's gonna go to infinity whatever The Minutemen we're talking about are not the Minutemen who were on the border since the 19, well late 1980s or 1990s. The Minutemen Movement was the militia movement of the 50s, 60s, and into the early 70s. They were constituted public militias that literally countered the different communist and or the leftist factions that were all over the country. If you write it out of the history books, it never happened. But here's the problem. There are enough books, and it's hard to burn all the books. It really is, contrary to what they say. And so there's more than enough hard copy that should be in your database in the electronic venue, but strangely enough, isn't. So most of your database is corrupted by selective insertion of information. In other words, garbage in, garbage out. The Minutemen were very public. The Minutemen were in, in fact, there was a standoff, a little standoff. They made a comical of, they made a movie in which the Minutemen respond to Mexicans occupying the Alamo. You may, you've probably never seen the movie. But if you search for it, you will find it. And the subject matter is the Minutemen. Now, the Minutemen were as well armed, all still within the, now this is pre-Gun Control Act of 1968. So the Minutemen were as well armed and equipped as any conventional infantry formation as they should be. In many cases, these Minutemen formations such as in Ohio also constituted what would be the third tier of state defense forces. This is why when you read the body of the law for Ohio's state constitution, you need to do this with the state constitutions and read what it says about militia. See, they don't do that. We have state constitutions, not just the federal constitution. And all of them spell out the expanded nature of the militia. Now, there's a reason for this. They can't draft you if you're not in the militia. So they, all of you, everybody, all of you listening to think you're not, if you go over to Title 10 and you go over all the rest of United States Code and you read it, you're going to understand that they have to have you as militia because what they're doing when you call it the draft, that's not, it's like drafting beer. You're all part of the militia at large and what they do is selectively mobilize you by utilizing a randomized lottery system they claim to mobilize larger formations of militia than just specific state select militia. That's how the law is written. So militia is in place that whole time. Go ahead. The whole time and now we're into the 70s. So would you say that is it... Because by the 60s, I would see how the 60s and the 70s in and of themselves would have been a major acceleration point for anybody who's starting to smell a rat, especially coming from the national security state and all that other stuff with the and the drug experiments and like the culture going sideways liberation and all that other crap. So one that brings us right to the front door of the 80s again, I guess is that where Are we like full steam ahead at this point from the 70s and the 80s or what? Well, okay, but let's do this. We're a little past the top. Let's do a station identifier real quick so we let them know because you're on shortwave now. Okay, go ahead. Guys, everybody out there like to say good evening. This is Mark Horkie and we've got quite frankly here. We've got Frank from quite frankly and you're listening to us on Quite frankly, on Rumble, we're also on www.libertytreeradio.4mg.com, libertytreeradio.org, and a handshake, a wave, to all of our friends on WBCQ, the planet. 6.160 regular shortwave right now Frank's voice is being heard by friends across the planet both with their internet by the way they do have an internet feed for WBCQ and shortwave and shortwave talks to the planet anonymously nobody knows you're listening which is really kinda cool. I like that. It makes it real Gorilla Radio. Oh yeah. Get it? Oh yeah, absolutely. I'd rather that than the digital sometimes. I think it's very romantic. But it's great to have every available tool come together to make this happen tonight. So welcome again. It's great to make your acquaintance wherever you are or whenever you are. This could be years later. But still... Okay, so Mark and I were just talking about the timeline of the American militia movement coming out of World War II and then leading us right into the 1990s where the first time that Mark was on, about a month ago, we were able to talk about the kind of like the pinnacle of all the action and the reaction to the American militia movement in the 90s when we had the, you know, very high profile events like Ruby Ridge and Oklahoma City and Waco, which we opened up with tonight. And we are now just cruising through the 70s and 80s before we get to some questions from the audience. So, Mark, you want to wrap up there? Now, let me ask you something, because you're younger. How many bombings took place in the United States in the 1950s? Oh, I don't. How many bombings by leftist organizations Took place in the United States in the 1950s. I let this organism I don't know whenever I think about bombings I think about the weather underground I think the little you know a little bit later than that like I said, you know 1950s for somebody like me it usually you think of Beaver Cleaver Okay, but let's go to the 60s and 70s. Okay, the Puerto Rican Liberation Front bombed just in New York alone, New York City. The city of New York had over 8,000 bombings by the Puerto Rican Liberation Front in one year. The Jewish Defense League, which was operational inside the JDL, a literally the militant counter-fact faction you're not supposed to know about, that was attached to the ADL. The ADL's knuckle arm was the JDL. In New York alone, the JDL was responsible for over 20,000 bombings in one year. Their most famous series of bombings were a series of hockey rinks. in which they bombed the facilities multiple times, in one case planting 11 bombs, the other planting 15 bombs throughout the facility. And the more notorious were a series of accidents that took place in which one or two of their bomb factories blew up and took out a good chunk of their personnel in either Chicago or in Boston. Now one of the most notorious incidents, now this is all happening when you're saying, well this is happening kind of in the vacuum, you know, peace, love, dope, the flower children. No, this is happening with the leftists making sure that you don't remember that like I live in Washtenaw County in Michigan. Ann Arbor, everybody recognize Ann Arbor? Wolverines! The Wolverine football team, yah! And of course the University of Michigan, I work with the U of M. Well, In my lifetime, in just one year, while I was growing up, the FBI office on Main Street in Ann Arbor was bombed 54 times. And that's just from one group, which originally was a combination, as you pointed out, first it was a combination of SDS, the Weather Underground, the Black Panthers, the White Panthers, and then the next step was the Rainbow Party. No, not the faggots we have now. The Rainbow Coalition, as it was called, was a combination of what was left of the... a combination of the Prairie Reconlibration Front, the White Panthers, the Black Panthers, elements of the weather underground that had not left the area. and other factions of other even more aggressive off-campus radical organizations. Okay, well let me go. Obviously, we are a fertile, there's fertile grounds at that point because the communist infiltration had already happened nearly 40 years prior to that. Earlier, right. Yeah, so there's already fertile grounds for that to be authentic and and kids just getting swept up in the whole thing. But there is also the question of how many of those movements are also infiltrated and made violent to be... Well, they absolutely were acknowledging that. In fact, why did the weather underground split up? Well, that's right here in my backyard and I even grew up with some of those people. Okay, my brother, my middle brother, who's quite a bit more notorious than I am, he's gone now, he's dead. went to school with a bunch of these people. Okay, so the thing, what's interesting about it is that they realized that something was amiss when the oil companies came to the weather underground and said, hey, we'll give you more money to do more of what you're doing. That's when that big split took place between the weather underground components. Some went to California, others went to it. Most people don't realize they went down to the ridge. They went down to Nashville and they went to Kentucky and Tennessee. Now they didn't stay there very long, but the Nashville component actually is still kind of in place today. Nashville is a hotbed right now. And there's a reason, an extension of that period of time. What's fascinating about this is that again, They didn't just do bombings. We're talking, I got no notes briefings. When I worked as an intel analyst, we had two different types. We have official document briefings with instruments that are handed off to us. The other are what we call no notes briefings. And this is where we were given the security intelligence and operation briefings for OPSEC, operational security inside the United States. Part of reconliberation front did a whole ton of drive-by shootings. Typically they would do roll-ups where they had a van with a helicopter door and they did about 890 drive-by shootings and knee cappings in what was it, 19... in 79, 1980. They had done over 2,000 of the same in the New York, Boston, Washington, D.C. corridor. So the scripts are operational even in Washington, and in fact, here's what gets me about this when they tell you about the January 6th. Guys, how many times did the leftists virtually occupy the Capitol Building, number one? Number two, how many times has the Capitol Building been successfully bombed? and who bombed it? Nobody asked that question. And not only that, but let me give you a classic. There were three different factions of the black nationalist parties in Washington, D.C. There were two groups that were Muslim. They had a tip going on between each other. One group went over to the others' home during prayers, one of their high-rises, but sandstone, sand fronts. Killed all the women took all the kids took them into the bathtub into the kit into the bathrooms filled the bathtubs up with water turned the kids upside down and drowned all the kids and left them like Popsicles in the bathtub in Washington DC ever hear of that no Now what happened because of that? Well the the people who had been attacked who lost their women and kids called the police of course and asked the police to do something and like you see with all the other garbage in you think this is all new this is back in the we're talking the 70s here people what happened is the police did nothing they didn't arrest any of the perpetrators they knew who they were they even had witnesses but they refused it because of the political volatility so what happened is the other faction with machetes bows and arrows and one or two handguns and a shotgun took three federal buildings in Washington, D.C. hostage. They killed two different guards, they wounded a number of other individuals, and they took those three buildings hostage and took control of them for three going on four days. Do you know what happened at the end of the fourth day? No. Everybody under negotiation was allowed to walk away without any charges. Now guys, a person was killed, at least one, two actually, because one guy died of his wounds. So they tried to lay it, well he didn't die right away. But in any way, a number of other individuals had critical injuries from machete hacks or being stabbed. which now weren't just police or they were also just people who were in the buildings. You see no media coverage on this anymore. Why don't we know about these histories? That's in Washington, D.C. and the capital of the United States. So let me ask you something. Do you think January 6th was that bad? No, not even close. So then my question is, are these things in relation to what we're talking about with the But the militia movement is this is all just to be able to rile up Americans to inflame the militia movement, then to create predicates to put it down? Or what? Well, no. Okay, the militia movement was successful in actually blocking. Both sides have to have coercive force. Okay, first of all, let's understand what is the foundation of this country, checks and balances. See, I don't have a problem with leftist arming. First of all, although unfortunately it's the leftist that typically are doing the mass shootings, it's the leftist who will do a lot of the Twilight Zone suicide, you know, suicide, personal and multiple executions. And if you go through the numbers, we've been covering this for what? This is the year 2025. The first successful Prozac shooter was Patrick Purdy. There was one other individual we suspect, he did the McDonald's shooting before that. In all cases, every person disappeared for a period of time, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We have a whole history on that. We had workups in the autopsies. I have them for these people. They're all on psychotropic drugs. But those people are representative of the other side. And yet, I would tell you, I don't want them disarmed. I'm not dead, he didn't train no fool here. The purpose behind any agenda towards pointing at, quote unquote, horrible violence, while government is notorious for not just horrible violence, but horrible violence on steroids. They want us disarmed. Now the militia has not been an issue. The propagandists have made the militia an issue, but it's the militia that founded the country. There was no army on 19th April 1775. 100% militia started the war for independence. Period. There was no army. And the militia, later, it was accepted as part of the checks and balances because of the nature of man and corruption. Now, there could be contests between people who call themselves leftists, well now they're just flat out crazy town, versus individuals who were conservative versus classical liberal. Now that term isn't used very much, but if you look at the older college teachings, I'm not talking the 60s, I'm talking going back to the founding of the nation. Yeah, let's see what they are. And Mark, just put a nice bow on this one because we have so much to do. Yeah, real quick. Bottom line is the militia is actually the check that stopped them from going any farther every time. Now, yes, they still had to try to disrupt the militia, but they've never been fully successful. And each time the people who stepped up for their era were successful in counterbalancing what was a planned thesis, antithesis, synthesis. Create the problem, demonstrate the problem, come up with a solution people otherwise wouldn't accept. That was the plan each time though. They did gain some ground and then lose some I'm not talking about us I'm talking about the regime the big power freaks take your pick we have been successful Now we unfortunately you always have a certain number of wussies and you have a certain number of naysayers No matter what situation you're in there's an axiom I used before lead follower get the hell out of the way So the people who've stepped up took their took their chances did we were supposed to do? Accomplish the task could have gone farther but accepted the parameters of that period of time because things have changed. Different incidents develop or should say different tools are developed by the enemy. They're either blocked or they move forward to a degree. We in turn counter and create new measures to deal with it both political, administrative slash judicial, and militarily. And that's what the militia is for because if you don't have the militia to back yourself up with ass, then the old brain trust will be carried away and shot every time. Yeah, well, you come from a state where the chief executive over there, Gretchen Whitmer, has been at the center of some really interesting operations that had been completely concocted from start to finish, including the whole, you know, kidnapping, farce, and everything else like that. But we see a lot of that going on. We've seen, you know, you brought up January 6th, I mean, that had been that had been placed squarely on group leaders that sometimes were not even present in the Capitol Theater, the Capitol City that day. There's also people like Stuart Rhodes, who has been on this show a couple of times over the years, and Oath Keepers. I know how much Oath Keepers bugged people going into the 2011, 2012, when all of the racial violence started getting turned up in places like Ferguson and stuff. You know, they had militia groups that were showing up to protect protesters. and create a buffer zone between protesters and law enforcement and all that stuff and the media didn't know how to cover them because you know they're white guys with guns mostly and they're supposed to be part of the racist, systemic, you know, this horrible, you know, a reflection of the system that everybody's trying to break free from or so-called. So they got, Stewart Rhodes eventually rung up on something with January 6th. So it's interesting to see how it's carried well beyond the 1990s. And I guess if we're ever going to have a chance at preserving whatever we have left, then there has to be some sort of a healthy militia culture in the country, no doubt. Well, real quick, on the thing with Missouri, with what happened with Ferguson, let's not forget that the militia is what is, are the people that step forward when the black businesses were at risk of being burned out. Yeah. And they didn't care who they were, but you know who drove them out? who argued that you have to leave, well it was the state and the Fed and here's why. Remember that when Ferguson was under attack, we covered that live including putting on the air all of the dispatch going on, almost all the dispatch from most police departments is available on the internet. If you didn't know, you need to check it out. And we literally were playing, roll, you know, minute by minute, what was happening in the discussions between the Ferguson police. All the while, Ferguson was being attacked and burned. The feds and the National Guard and the state police were down the street sitting on their hands. The militia shows up because Ferguson chooses to take care of it themselves and the militia went to the businesses and said, we'll protect you. Now that's like that black woman that had the cake decorating store and she said, oh hell yes, because this is all I've got and I have no insurance. So who came in and threatened the militia? The Fed and the state police because it didn't fit the program because they needed to have crisis. so that the Ferguson Police Department would demand federal and state support and that way it would be taken over by them. But the night that they were, the last night when they were burned out, organized elements came in and literally ransacked every business and went right through the police, the police, the state police and the feds and the feds let them go right by with truckloads of goods that were stolen directly from Ferguson. Okay. and who was driving those trucks. Everything that we have right now that is very fragile and all very shallow that ship based with shallow roots in the digital world that can be switched off in In no time while it's on it's miraculous and we've been able to do so much but still we were talking about all of that Developing over the course of the 70s 80s and 90s So I wanted to talk to you about some people that you might have Come across along the way the first thing that keeps popping up in the chat room especially for example here is a a super chat that came in from Haywood over on Rumble said, I'm not surprised about Israelis in Waco, which reminds me, was Alex Jones always a shill for Israel? By that I mean, he does, by that I mean Israel never does wrong and he never talks about them. Well, I mean, you don't spend, you don't have to spend too much time on that in particular, I want to know about your crossing pads and just general talk. Well, I made, we made Alex Jones. Okay, go on with that. Okay, Alex Jones wouldn't exist if it weren't for Republic Radio International. What I did, when we built Republic Radio International, John Stadtmiller and myself, and there were a number of other people who helped and pitched in from around the country, we needed to create a central network. We chose to do this because normally I did stuff behind the scenes. So what we did is we created a network, Republic Radio International. I took advantage of all the different technicals that we had, people who knew how to get us into the different systems, for instance, satellite. shortwave of course was already in use, we did not, nobody in the present Patriot Movement invented shortwave. Remember what I said before, many people, Sun Radio, again there's that name, Sun Radio, but it wasn't the Sun Dollar people, Sun Radio network was way before everybody else, there were many different individuals, but they were just persons, they were people who were stepping up, they would broadcast for an hour at night when they could, And they were usually six or seven individuals in a row, but they were volunteers, okay? But many other names were in shortwave. Shortwave was the old, like counterpart to AM, the way AM and FM are related to each other today. That's why people have a hard time relating to shortwave. Alex was doing public broadcasting in Austin, Texas. I had a friend call from down there, a guy actually I've been in service with. He was an intelligence coordinator at that time. He actually worked with the, I think he worked with the Air Force. I kicked in a microphone of him, Rob. But anyway, he called and said, Mark, we got this kid down here. I've been watching on public access. They just kicked him off of public access. They kicked Alex Jones off public access, guys, years ago. You think Alex was just kicked off first time recently here? No. So he said, no he's pretty good, he's got a good message, and he's done a lot of interesting stuff that we can all relate to, can you use him? So I said, well I'll tell you what, let's get a hold of him and how about we give him an hour or two upon Republic? Because we've got to fill the hours. And so we gave Alex a platform and then he created InfoWars from there. He was able to build it up. And then we gave, we were able to put him up for, well, was it three hours? I had three hours. Actually, sometimes I had more. But John and myself did the Intel report, which has been up for 35 years. Well, yeah, 30 years, 35 years. So anyway, Alex came up, we built him up, we gave him shortwave time, we gave him satellite. This gave him all the tools that he needed and we helped to develop him. And he wrote off of the backs of every element of the Patriot movement and then about the end of the 90s he basically said hockey puck all you because some big money's coming my way so he was willing to bad mouth the militia and bad mouth the Patriot effort later on. Way before you hear about it in the 2000, I warned everybody about this because what happened to Alex is what happens to our politicians the same way and I think I explained to you about this. We take a person who's never been in a position with any kind of money. The person is promoted by us in the pay-credit effort independently. We get them elected. They get in there, they start rubbing elbows with these other people that have money. The people that have money say piss on those peasants that got you in here. If you just ride with us, and here, by the way, here's a free car, and piss on them, and you gotta verbally piss on them, then you're with us. These are always one-term individuals. Why? Because they didn't want them around in the first place, but they have a formula for getting the idiots to drink the same Kool-Aid. So through the 90s, through our networks, Alex Jones, is the only regime you know about him, is because of the Patriot Movement and the Militia Movement that literally financed and built him. Well, over the years, I mean, I don't know how many times I've heard it because, you know, I've watched quite a bit of InfoWars when I was younger and, you know, then you're just in the same media space. So I have heard so many times over the years about the stories of being offered the so-called proverbial deal and not taking it. Well, he wants. But I don't know what that deal is. Well, hold on. He actually, okay, now wait a minute. Let's think this through. In the round the 2000 mark, They approached Jones because they were approached, many of us, I was approached several times by different sidebar mechanisms that were like CBS because if they can get you into a contract, they can shut you up. Understand that. Okay, I already had a plan before I got into this because we know the routine. I worked in intelligence. Those networks are all owned by the intelligence agencies. I've repeated this for 30 years on the air. All of them. We used to call ABC Old CIA. Everybody understand that? ABC, when you're at the Intel Center, they didn't call it ABC. They called it old CIA because it's where old agents go to roost. And the only other one that's just as bad is CNN. Okay. Pay attention and look at the characters there. Well, here's what happened. They approach Jones and say, hey. Who's they? Well, the control networks, regular network. He went into a regular network. I believe he was CBS affiliated at that time. And what they said is, we'll syndicate you, and there's the key. All of a sudden, he's syndicated on about 105, maybe it wasn't, 110 AM and FM station, mostly FM. FM's the key, because FM's got the voice, FM's got the noise. But in the process, he also, because he's under contract, you're gonna get paid, but you gotta bad mouth these people. So literally, there was a little window of time where he did a total flip, And again, it's tough because how many millions of hours of radio do you have to go through to get most of the database I'm compressing here. But the fact is we know the timeline. So basically he dumped most of the Patriot effort, a lot of comments made against the militia, or at least to create that mood. And that's how you can usually tell who's who in the zoo. Because at the very least you would be a lot more neutral and maybe supportive because well somebody might be coming after your hind end someday. And by the way, we saved Jones several times. We protected him several times. Yes, they have come after us and it is the physical coercive force that we wield and the willingness to wield it that back them off because it's it's equity. The this thing is you when we talk about this. I know this is tough We're looking to our block here and it would take it would take We can pick any subject and open up a whole can of worms You know that just as well as I do and the problem is is that you know, tell me your life in 11 minutes Give me your life in one hour. Can you tell me your life's experience? What now you see I'm not being facetious with you but on my point is that this is the problem when people are Tapping a database like this and the part is people always ask me you should be frustrated. No, this is war If you understand the rolling battlefield or the sign wave of conflict, then understand before you get into it, you're going to have ups, you're going to have downs. You're going to have betrayals, you're going to have successes, you're going to have failures. We didn't win every battle in World War II, contrary to the bullshit they're trying to rewrite. We got our ass kicked in the beginning of World War II. We lost. thousands and tens of thousands and hundreds of thousands of men to actions because we left them hanging out on the end of a stick, especially in the Pacific. But you don't focus on that. You do the rah-rah when you can see 55 aircraft carriers sailing into Tokyo. But before you get there, guys, our situation was so bad, World War II, that the clothes were rotting off our men's bodies. They literally were rotting off our men's bodies because we couldn't get the clothes, we couldn't get the ammo, we couldn't get the food to our troops. And that's the part they want to leave out because if you're going to get people to sign up for a bullshit war you can't show them the ugly part about what can happen when you're out on the end of the stick. And that goes to media wars as well with what you're saying. And the conflict we're saying here is that what happened is, well here's the problem, he went along with the theme and then at a given point you know they just said, oh by the way you're gone. Oh Alex Jones was kicked off. Well, he was. What they did is the same thing they did with those politicians. He drank the Kool-Aid. They didn't want him around, but the thing is, our independent press has been far more successful than the controlled media and on pennies rather than hundreds of millions of dollars. Okay. When we were successful in Florida, example, politically, We literally stopped a Constitutional Convention resolution in Florida. The Democrats and even the Republicans estimated that we had to have spent a minimum of about $125 million in advertising and bureaucratic expenses to do what we did. And we did, we, the only thing we did was word of mouth cooperation amongst the Patriots, which you do not see with the internet. Everybody has constantly tried to beat one up. Okay, let me ask you that we have to do the next one. We have to do it next one more. Go ahead. Okay, because that because Alex Jones is just one guy out there. I know you had some kind of a history with him. And of course, everybody, that's a common thing. Heywood in Rumble asked a very common question about, you know, somewhere along the lines, they feel he was changed or some... Yes, you did. You know what he was. Unbelievable. But now what about this? I have another... I had a couple of figures I wanted to bring up tonight. The second one... was also very critical of Alex Jones, though he did a show with him, I think one episode. But, and I don't expect anybody, colleagues, people occupying the same media space to ever always get along or even like somebody, forget about message, just sometimes you just don't like somebody's personality. William Cooper, Bill Cooper, hosted the hour of the time, I think that was mostly on Shortwave. He not only had some things to say about Alice Jones, but he had not one positive thing to say about you when he was alive. Not one. No, no, no, okay, hold on. Not while he was not in the early period, but later on, once we got into the later contest in the odds, actually in about 99, all of a sudden he had an epiphany of some kind and realized that somebody was feeding him bullshit. Let me help you to understand Bill Cooper. Bill Cooper did not do that much research on his own. Let's say, I'll give you an example, I have a person right here. He's probably the best money person in the United States, period. I have met many scholars, but his name is John Stevenson. I'd even have him up if I were you. Let me see if I can talk to him. He's still alive. But John Stevenson had one of the most complete American money collections privately owned in the country in the 1990s. He gave a class to the Congress of Michigan, both the Senate and the House separately, on money. And they spent six hours with him, each group, as he gave them the history of actual currency and money in the United States and he could physically show them. They tried to assassinate him here in Michigan twice. Now the one time the Michigan Capitol Police stopped him and protected him, the Michigan State Police, they said, flat out, we're listening on the radios, they've got an ambush planned for you down the road. Mr. Stevenson, if you would, please stay with us here. Just stay here. You can stay in the parking lot. We don't want to control you, we don't want to put you in a car, but stay here, because if you don't, you're nobody's going to see you tomorrow. But anyway, now, John is a very intelligent individual, but he's got quirks. He's a very, very bright man. He literally is a walking encyclopedia. Like I said, he's the best man on money we could find, and I've met many of them. He decided that he wanted to get it out more ways than you can imagine. Well, Mr. Cooper, what he would do is he would charge you $300 to talk to him if you had a subject. Did you know that? No. No, you didn't. If you wanted to talk about a subject, but if you paid the $300, you had to surrender all of your information to Mr. Cooper and then he was able to claim it for his own. That was his policy all the while when now Behold a Pale Horse is a fantastic book period no matter how I'm not predicting the book and I was up on his program But I was up on his program passing information on in the early days before America in peril Okay, he knew that we knew that what I was passing on was correct, but I wasn't he wasn't filtered so he could say I have discovered And that's what he did not like because in his the way he had it set up any for any component of the information base that he acquired he could then put it up as his research and that's exactly what he did not trying to piss on him any way shape or form because it was his method of collecting data and Becoming a library and a lot of the information came from other sources that he then once he once you paid him the $300 to have an audience with him You then surrendered all of your data, you gave him an instructional course on the data, in other words, you had to give him all the information you had verbally, and then it was his to do with as he pleased. You didn't still have it, so he made sure that he husbanded it so that he could... Use it as a song. I don't know how to... I just have to take you... I don't have any problem with him. I don't really... Okay, here's the thing. I just have to take you all the way. It was all one-sided. That's what I'm telling you. It was all one-sided. All I'm saying... You gotta understand something. Where do I live? Where was I at that time in 1993? 92 or 91? I was in Michigan. Where was Mr. Cooper during that period of time? Well, he lived in his state. I lived in mine. Do you know how big this country is? I'm not judgmental, even of the people that have done quirky things, because I'm not sitting under doorstep 24-7. Okay, well let me ask you about one specific thing. Go ahead. One specific thing. Because I'm wondering about your interactions with people in the media space coming up. Now you said that toward the end, toward the end of, I guess, Bill Cooper's life. You guys had reached some sort of a turnaround and understanding. He was saying things on one specific I actually listened to it myself on one specific episode where he questioned everything from your Your service your background said that you switched your story that you were Air Force then you said you were army and all that stuff Who was feeding him that if it wasn't true and how did it all get cleared up? Oh, originally, actually, when I was talking to him, I flat out what happened is I was talking to him and I said, well, I've worked with the Air Force and I've worked with, in fact, if you listen, I think it's on recording, it should be on the archives, is that I had worked with multiple services, which I had, because at the time when I did that, I was working with OPPOR, O-P-F-O-R, and My service was with the Army, but I had worked with and that was one of the things I explained to him several times. This is why I had connective tissue to a lot of the different branches, is because I trained a lot of the different branches. And I explained that to him both on and off the air. There was very little conversation off the air. And there was nothing that was, the only thing he was, I'll tell you what he was really frustrated by. What he tried to do was a set up program, which is probably, I called in at different times. and he's specifically acting kind of quirky, you know, if you got a radio here, which you do, then you can tell when somebody's doing something strange. Well, what he tried to do is set up a situation with another prior service individual so they could do some kind of ambush, hit and miss attack. For whatever reason, it didn't work. I don't know why, I'm not the other end. But you got more and more frustrated progressively. If you can find that particular episode, all this stuff is archived. Listen to it. You can hear where he's getting frustrated with the technology and he's getting frustrated with it so he becomes more aggressive. Now, it didn't make any sense because the only thing that I did was pass on information. Just got to know whether or not you want to believe it, that's your problem and your prerogative. But the bottom line is, is we provided specific data and information in blocks and I did it anonymously and I also deflected as much of it as we could too. I wasn't doing anything publicly. Let me give you an example of that. I never did any public media interviews with any networks except for, and I can count them on five fingers. Why? Because I didn't need them. This is something everybody has a hard time, but did you watch the Sam Donaldson interview that was done? I know. It's on YouTube. That's one of five. You know how many thousands of thousands and thousands of times the press would come up with a microphone and go, well, Mr. Corky, we'd like to interview. I'm sorry. I appreciate the fact you're doing your job, but I don't do interviews. When the Time Magazine piece was done, go read it. That's the one that everybody does. Time Magazine said, and you said, I was not interviewed with Time Magazine by Time Magazine. I was never interviewed by Time Magazine. They wanted to interview me. In fact, I was told by people that I knew in Time Magazine, Mark, if you'd done any kind of interview, your picture would have been on the front page of Time. Instead, they had to put a picture of the estrogen pill on there because they didn't know what to put in the front cover. But I did this for a reason, because what happens is your enemy has to construct and fabricate. This is the problem that Cooper had is that and again I'm part of it is all I did was pass information on But mr Cooper wouldn't be able to say it was his information because we were just directly talking to each other And I didn't pay the $300 Gotcha that was that I think was the problem and I think it was the only problem now Here's the thing as things became more intense in the post Oklahoma City period which where we were not gone the militia was not only alive But we were functioning better than they then the enemy had ever anticipated But what happened is then they started the pressure initially on him and started targeting him for elimination And so all of a sudden that kind of sank in that they were trying to kill him and what happened to him They killed him Does everybody understand that see I can talk about things. Oh, that's crazy. Oh, you don't know talking about, he said, why is he dead? They specifically went through a series of actions and I described even privately to these people, I've walked through it with, I've had conversations with our people in these positions and I walked them right through. Before I ever went public, I already sat down with my wife, with all my allies and I said, okay, we're going to be able to run for about two years before they pull out the rest of the cards. Here's what they're going to do. Now we need to be prepared for it. The first thing we're not going to do is any press interviews. So anything you see written about me in the controlled press, if you go to the psychobabble, you know, internet, it's all inference because there isn't any first person and the only articles that are first person They had to reconstruct or try to and in fact the Sam Donaldson interview, let me give an example, we have only so much time here, I'm sorry. The Sam Donaldson interview, you got to go watch it. Why? Oh Mark, that was really great. Guys, the Sam Donaldson interview was negotiated after the Oklahoma City bombing because we only did two interviews. John Stadtmiller did an interview over on the west side of the state and I did one interview over on the east side of the state. It was done right in downtown Dexter. Now the good thing is it was local so a lot of locals got to see how the press lies. The interview was supposed to be live. There was probably going to be a time delay as there always is for the networks of how many minutes. When we got there in preparation they said oh, oh by the way We can't make the uplink now mind you they had an uplink satellite truck there and we work equipment That's newer than what they have but we have some lists just like what they had in the van for uplink work So what did he do? Well, then they said Donaldson links up Well, we're not going to do it live and then what they did is an hour and I think Nancy could tell you for sure. She was timing it 100 one hour and 25 minutes go watch to see how long that interview was How many minutes was that interview? Now when we when I ended the original hour in 25 minutes everybody was everybody there that was they were not Patriots They're just people on the restaurant people who are from the town. They go Wow That was a really great interview. Boy, they're not going to be able to do anything with that. Well, what you see, which everybody still says, wow, Mark, that's a real great interview, is a chopped job of about, what, 13, 15 minutes? Oh, yeah. Whenever you show up for something live and suddenly it's going to be taped, you know that it's just going to be sent over to the editing department. But let me ask you something else. which is why why we didn't do that because then you have to lie. Yeah. And when you lie, then we catch you in the lies and we use that as ammunition to go after you. Yeah. Or you have to adopt a new way of talking so it makes it impossible for them to edit things very cleanly and at least makes it very sloppy job for them. Let me ask you about one more thing before we go. And that is, you know, that's as mainstream as alternative media was getting in the 1990s is I would say something along the lines of coast to coast and you're talking about that level of syndication but you know as much old school coast to coast I've gone back and listened to and it became more and more important for me to have this conversation with this series of conversations with you about the militia movements and everything else and that is Art Bell in particular expressed as I'm listening to these episodes throughout the mid and late 90s There's a lot of concern from him and a lot of the people who got through and as guests and or audience members of us being on the verge of civil war and all that stuff. But you know, coast to coast, whereas they did a very good job letting everybody express their thoughts and their concerns, mainly took a government side. on a lot of it. But you know, I never remember every episode, but I didn't know if along the way over those years you were ever mentioned, you ever had an interaction with art or the show. I was wondering about that. Probably a hundred, oh I won't say a hundred, but dozens of times to the coast to coast. And you got on? George, but here's the thing, hold on. One of the things you remember about coast to coast, when coast to coast first came up in its infancy, It was pro-patriot, pro-malicia, and I'm talking very early on. And Art Bell would talk about everything and preparedness, and he received and was showered with gifts of generators, weapons, ammunition, all kinds of things. And everybody saw the same thing happen. At a given point, a switch was hit, and he became antagonistic towards anything or talking about it, per se, on the air. If he was forced to, he couldn't be too obvious. But progressively being antagonistic to the Patriot movement in general, to the militia, you could talk about Bigfoot, you could talk about anything like UFOs or frivolous stuff, but you could not talk about substantive information. Now, it wasn't just him. You got to remember something. He was owned by a network. Most all of these people, now again with Cooper, no Cooper owned himself, but Cooper was affiliated with another standoff group that were able to help to get his connection to communications grids, you know, to the system. And so he was not, he wasn't just on shortwave, he actually was in radio here and there around the west. But he was not controlled the way that Art Bell was. And at a given point when Art Bell felt comfortable, he started, what he did is first he started yapping about he was going to leave America. Remember he got a Filipino bride and he was yapping about he was leaving America because it was going to fall over the police states here and he's going to the Philippines. Well, he went to the, he sold all the gifts that were given to him. Everything that was given was treasures. I mean, he had garages full of stuff that was gifted to him. and basically said piss off. Well, he went to the Philippines. What happened is he started to try to put up a ham radio set in the apartment he was in. The Filipinos thought he was a US government spy. And so he had to unass the Philippines because he was just trying to slide some stuff into place that you would normally have here in America. Nobody would think twice about. but he wasn't in America. So he came back here, he tried to reintroduce himself back to coast to coast, but George Norrie had, in the time before he was gone, George Norrie had established himself well, he was more lenient towards direct conversation, and in fact was pro patriot, pro militia, but he couldn't go too far. And so progressively when Bell came back, they tried to kind of throw him back up there, but it was curdled milk. Because when he left, he had burned every bridge that he could. Privately. Everybody in the Patriot Movement was an idiot. The country is going to burn. We're all going to die. He's going to go have sex with the Filipino bride until he dies. You know, I was a Filipino bride, but he just had to come back to the place that was going to burn down. Well, I mean, what I noticed was there was definitely a government loyalty leaning there. And then if you listen to enough of those reruns, there's always a reminder and a disclaimer that he doesn't believe in conspiracy theories, which I think just think is odd because, you know, for any of the other guests that are talking about, you know, government programs, I mean, those are all conspiracy theories. Right. But so I that that's something that I always pay attention to there, but as far as just time capsule conversations It really was very illuminating to see all this thing these come together I mean it's as far as as far as government loyalty goes. It's just it's incredible to see how long it took art To come around the things like TWA 800 being a huge military cover-up, but eventually he eventually did that that's a game-changer right there You're learning about TWA, that should be a game changer or a red pill moment for people right there too. You know, if the government won't fess up to an accident that was deadly, are they ever going to disclose anything willingly if there was ever intent to do harm, you know? So, that's a... Well, real quick, Flight 800 wasn't an accident, it was intent. Radiation Weekly... Do you know that the area where we're talking about where Flight 800 flies, where those flights are actually still active, they still fly through that area? That is a missile test, a live fire missile test and drop area for missiles. When they're operating and testing equipment, they do what's called a deadhead drop. and they drop the weapon, an inert version of the weapon and see how it detaches from the aircraft. Step two, they do it as an active system, if it's a missile, to show that it drops and the missile activates. The third is they do actual combination of drop, drive, and bomb, or the actual ordinances on board. Well, they don't just do air to air, they also do surface to air in that area of operation. If you go to Aviation Weekly, which is printed every weekly, I don't know if it's still printed, but if you go back to the period of Flight 800, go back three months before flight 800 and read the scheduled log of activities for that air quarter and you're going to go, oh my. So you're saying, you go as far as saying that this was intent that they killed all those people in Long Island. Yep, there's somebody on board, well obviously there were three people, at least on board, that they certainly wanted dead. But the big thing here again is after the fact, one of the things you should tell you something is Remember the husband and wife reporters who snuck over and while one of the trucks was parked again It was over near an overpass. They actually got a sample of the material that was being pulled That was in the wreckage. It was the red oxide and For actually acquiring that sample kind of like if you took wreckage from the World Trade Center. They were arresting people for that in certain areas, only where you saw the burns or stuff that was weird. Those two went to prison for with five or ten years, I think it was five and seven year sentences. They went to prison. And what did they do? All they were doing was reporting on flight 800. Very interesting. So I understand that, yeah, there's a whole background. That's a sidebar, real quick, before we go any farther. Let's understand something. First of all, America is big. The most common mistake Americans make, and even people right now listening, and I'm sorry, I'm not being belittling you, but here's the problem, we're television screen oriented. The Patriot Movement was vast. I've argued, or I tried to explain, my job before I became public was to work in negotiation and getting people to work together. I was able to create a coalition that worked virtually across the whole of the United States. My job is to make sure that people, feathers don't need to be ruffled. Cooper is probably the best example of somebody who just was volatile, but he was isolated too. In his area of operation and with his, the people he was associated with, he did really great work and it was priceless. In fact, that's one of the things that everybody is scratching your head on about why he was acting the way that he was. In the Patriot circles with all of us, We were the ones doing all the running around, moving and shaking. Now, Bill did the same thing. We were speaking to some of the same locations all over the country together. Other individuals were just downright cantankerous, but this is part of the problem when you have a large confederation of people. This is why you have a problem with the internet right now, because the confederation can reach so many more people and everybody has their own ideas, which is good, but they don't know how to inter or integrate, interact to actually work towards a competent goal. And the reason we were so successful in the early, late 80s, early 90s, and why we came almost to the edge of war that time, is because the whole of the country was on the basic understanding page that the powers that be had a plan and we better have our plan. In 1994, we came a breath away from Vietnam, and this is a compression legion to the next time I come back. In 1994, we had the information on the planned mass arrests, late 94 October. We had a complete list of operational points of control, who was going to be operating what. We knew like, for instance, in Michigan, the 300th MPPW command would be participant in setting up interment and operations against the American Patriot Movement and planned mass arrests, but they were the only ones. It was all over the country. What did we do? Did we shake our fists and scream? No, you know what we did? We took the entire database to the Senate. And we went to a series of congressmen and senators who already were up to speed on everything from the Prozac shooters to everything else you can imagine. They had inside information from their direction, but they were isolated. And we shared, we said, okay, here's the thing. If they come out to tempt mass arrests, we will shoot their ass. This we're going to war. You were all ready to go, ready to go to war. But you attempt this and that's the end. Well, the Senate went to the FBI with the information and demanded a response. And if you think for the first time, like you've seen in the last few years, well, the FBI just doesn't answer. Well, the senators for three weeks and then four demanded a response and got no response on the information that they had available because they have to ask questions. They can't just say, hey, we've got this and throw it at them. The idea is respond to my request and an additional request for data. At the end of the fourth week, the only thing that the FBI responded with is, how do you know about this? There was no denial. Now, this is why when you hear about the Oklahoma City bombing, the Oklahoma City bombing was done by elements of the Mossad and elements of the federal government. The Oklahoma City bombing was planned far in advance, but it was part, actually, it wasn't supposed to be isolated. As I've told you before, the bomb was created bombs because there was more than one and there was more than one ready for more than one location. Was created it was created at Camp Gruber. Now I need to send you the photographs I have. I can give you an aerial photograph. I didn't take the aerial photograph. The Oklahoma Highway Patrol took the photographs of Camp Gruber. They were watching it surreptitiously as it operated day by day. There is no doubt that that's where the bomb came from from the exterior. That was used it wasn't created by Timothy McVeigh It was created by elements of the US government and the Israeli Mossad operating at Camp Gruber The Oklahoma Highway Patrol identified and recorded all of the license plates for all vehicles coming and going and all this database was made available to the federal government who was Complicit so guess where it went now they didn't throw it away. In other words, they didn't just give them everything and say well I hope you keep it Copies of everything was made. Everything was made. This is why there was this balance of power thing. Why didn't they go farther and attack the militia extensively after the Oklahoma City bombing? They didn't. In fact, the Oklahoma City bombing went from Oklahoma to Decker, Michigan to my doorstep in three days. I'm in Michigan. Oklahoma is in Oklahoma. Okay. The idea wasn't that I was involved with the bombing. The idea was it would be the excuse to attack. Everybody has just seen several thousand people arrested with no justification and you're scratching your ass and saying, well they wouldn't have done that to mark quarantine. Well, the same people that you're now seeing trying to bleed your country white and burn your country down have been doing it for decades. They didn't just start last week or four years ago. They've been at this for decades. And they've been countered by many different good people. I'm not the only one. Bill Cooper knew a lot more and wouldn't say a lot more or isolated what it is that he passed on to the people that he associated with even though he knew what he knew. We knew more. Now that's the problem I have. But it's because of personalities. You still have all the other issues you have when you deal with thousands tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, and then millions of people all interacting in and in and in as a force. The important thing, my job was basically you keep pushing people towards the bad guys. You have all kinds of people who are either A, and yes, there are, everybody always pisses their pants. Infiltrators, guys. There were infiltrators in 1775. After April 19th, we sieged Boston. Does everybody go read the siege of Boston? You do realize that the third week into the siege of Boston,
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