The clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three cornered hat and speaking low to me he said, we fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations this legacy we gave. In this the lesson home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free, home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate. And your Christian values can't be taught. According to the state, you read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay attacks you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You trade it in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize them. farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children will be. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedom for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and eat God-given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke he vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we act free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled, each God given right, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave, build the land of the free and home of the free? Ladies and gentlemen, this is the first hour of the Intelligence Report. I'm Mark Hernke, one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories. 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The channel is Washington gun law. That's the channel. Washington Gun Law. That's Washington Gun Law. That's the channel on YouTube. The title of the video is, Are the Hurdles Being Cleared for Confiscation in Illinois? Are the hurdles being cleared for confiscation in Illinois? One more time. Are the hurdles being cleared for confiscation in Illinois and that the channel is Washington Gun Law? Here we go. Hello again everyone and welcome to Washington Gun Law TV. I am Washington Gun Law President William Kirk. Thanks for joining us. Illinois, we're going to need to talk about you again. I have had an amazing experience meeting a lot of people, mostly on the telephone or Zoom conferences, various individuals around the state of Illinois who have been able to provide me with some very fascinating information. And occasionally some of that information turns out to also be reliable. One of the things that I have really been geeking out on here is, is the state of Illinois actually going to try to run around and start confiscating firearms from otherwise lawful and responsible Illinois residents? And I know you would not put anything past your governor, and I can't blame you for that. Well, it appears that there might be a couple of hurdles that could be cleared or could remain in place But I think that is something that everyone in Illinois needs to carefully watch. So today, let's slow it all down, let's get you educated, and let's talk about are the hurdles being cleared for confiscation in Illinois? Okay, Illinois, here's what we're talking about today. Two separate things. One is a Senate bill kicking around in your state legislature. The other one is a case that was just argued in front of the United States Supreme Court on January 16, 2024. The first thing we're going to do is we're going to talk about the Senate bill 2619 is what we're going to be talking about. Now, we can probably recognize that if you're going to send law enforcement officers all around the state of Illinois, to start gathering up firearms, those scary assault weapons, even because the governor has decided, well, nobody should really have those anymore, or because they are enforcing PICA and you failed to register it. No matter which scenario you cut it up, the state is going to spend a lot of money and probably spend a few lives trying to do this. Now, where on God's green earth would all of the funding come from for the state of Illinois to begin a confiscation effort? The answer is in Senate Bill 2619, which by the way I believe is already passed out of the Illinois Senate, only needs to make it out of the Illinois House to get to the governor's desk. Now this is a very short bill, take you all about one minute to read it, but let me read the bill to you so you're going to see exactly what I'm talking about here. Synopsis as introduced, sponsored by Senator Natalie Toro, amends an act making appropriations, Public Act 103-0006. provides that 10 million rather than 2 million shall be appropriated from the State Police Revocation Enforcement Fund to the Illinois State Police for grants to law enforcement agency task forces for participating in programs to help reduce crime. And if signed into legislation, the bill would take effect immediately. Now, please understand that any time a Democratic legislature says that they are proposing legislation that will reduce crime or reduce gun violence, what they really mean is they are disarming you, the lawful and responsible gun-owning citizen. What this bill does is it multiplies the amount of money that's sitting in the budget for enforcement efforts by fivefold. Okay, you're going from $2 million of funding to $10 million of funding to the Illinois State Police Department's enforcement division. I wonder what they could possibly be using that for. So that is the first thing Illinois that you need to be aware of is Senate Bill 2619. Now the second thing I want you to be aware of is a United States Supreme Court case that was actually argued today, the day I'm recording this is January 16th, It was argued today, so we're several months away from getting a ruling. It is the matter of de Villiers v. Texas. And Mr. de Villiers, if I am mispronouncing your last name, my apologies. This is a case that deals with the Fifth Amendment takings clause. Why would we be worried about the Fifth Amendment takings clause? Well, here's why. Because you see, if government comes in and starts confiscating your property, and they don't give you just compensation for it, Well, that's a violation of the Fifth Amendment. The opening memorandum by the plaintiffs in this case specifically stated, The Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution provides in relevant part, nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation. The Fourteenth Amendment provides in relevant part, no state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States, Nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of the law, nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Okay, now the issue in de Villiers is really important because there were these farmers in Texas who after road reconstruction was done by the state of Texas and floodwaters were rerouted, their farmland basically turned into a lake a couple months out of the year. The floodwaters were all diverted onto their property. The property could no longer be used for agricultural purposes. They sued the state of Texas and said this is an unconstitutional taking. If your action, you owe us just compensation for our land. They wanted the trial court level. They wanted the appellate court level. Then they got to the 5th Circuit and the 5th Circuit went, nope, nope, actually the 4th and the 10th Amendment does not guarantee you that and there is no way to sue a state under an unconstitutional taking. Now if that ruling were to remain the law of the land. Can you imagine what the state of Illinois and some of these other states would do with gun confiscations? This case was argued before the United States Supreme Court today, and it is my belief that the United States Supreme Court will rule that the 14th Amendment does guarantee that right of action against states. Otherwise, there is literally nowhere, no time or any place that you can sue a state for an unconstitutional taking. So, if there is going to be an enforcement and confiscation effort in the state of Illinois, number one, Senate Bill 2619 would have to be passed. Don't think that's going to be a hard thing for the state of Illinois to get done. Number two, the United States Supreme Court would have to uphold the Fifth Circuit in de Valle v. Texas or, or, the state of Illinois would commence its confiscation efforts before the United States Supreme Court issues that ruling. We will keep our ear to the ground, Illinois. I do not know whether or not your governor has the guts to do it. I know he absolutely hates you enough to do it. So we will obviously keep very close watch on what's going on, let you know of anything that we hear or learn of. If you got any questions about this or anything else related to what's left of our Second Amendment rights, you guys should know how to get a hold of Washington Gun Law by now. If you don't, that's okay. That information's down there in the description box. Now in the meantime, let's everyone remember that part of being a lawful and responsible gun owner, like we talk about all the time here, is to know what the law is in every situation how it applies to you in any instance that you may find yourself. Until next time, thanks for watching and stay safe. All right, so that helps you to understand the metalegal twilight zone agenda that they're going to use to come after it bureaucratically. However, one of the points that I would have to make with anybody who believes that there are any rules anymore is what we've seen over the last one year across the United States in a coordinated effort by individuals who have flat out stated that the rules don't apply. So, they're in motion to confiscate in Illinois, period. Now, one of the things that we need to be paying attention is, and it's not a surprise because it's the middle of the country. It's in the Midwest. It's not the center of say like Colorado, but communist Colorado is already goose stepping enough. It isn't. The trash out there about as bad as it did. You're bad as they come. We already know that you've got enough of a Satanist pool slash pedo queer pool there. Look what the Supreme Court there did, look what the nine justices did, quote unquote, if you wanna call them that. Again, ignoring any and all activities of the court that would be in any way, shape or form, congruent with policy that has been established with the Admiralty Court since 1938. They just threw it all out the window. So the communists are coming. It's not an if, it's just a when. And the when is sooner rather than later. Now as far as what they plan on doing, I mean as far as the individual actions, can't do a blanket attack. Well, they might try it. I mean, if they're stupid enough, they've got re- it could spend the money. I mean, you really could. Let's not say that they can't. But in spending those resources, they'd be spreading the butter awfully thin over the toast. And very quickly, they would be losing a lot of people because everybody would start hunting their ass down. They wouldn't have any reserve or backup. Anybody who cooperates with the gun confiscation, they'd probably get shot anywhere from in their home to work to somewhere on the street or wherever they're going to try and kick in a door. It would be open hunting season. Nobody would slow down. Everybody knows, in fact, the one thing you got to remember, we do have 30 years worth of veterans that already understand where this is going to go as far as the latest wars. And then we've got Vietnam era and all the you're in between. And everybody has seen this crap over and over and over again. Well, they're making their move. And it's not a surprise. There's nothing here that's shocking anybody. Anybody here shocked? I don't think you are. So now it's a how do we deal with the problem? What do we do? Well, again, it varies depending upon their choice of operational activity. Most likely, as I've said, it's going to be a series of over dots like throwing a dart over the map, selecting individuals who are vocal. They're going to be selecting individuals where they have control of the local media, which most immediate horrors, I don't care where the hell you are. Those pieces of excrement are working for the ring knockers up in Chicago across the board, we know that. But in the process of whatever it is they're going to attempt, the biggest problem that they've got is if they do a smattering, then the moment that anybody gets a signal, it's gonna be across, it'll be across the country in a very short period of time, not just across Illinois. And with more and more people organizing here very, very, very quickly to deal with this problem appropriately, it is not likely that we would be caught by surprise so much as their logic is, as with the British Empire when they attacked the people of Lexington and Concord on April 19th is that, well, they can shock everybody. They can cow everybody down. And that's obviously where they're headed. So most important is that if contact is made, you have to pour all fires on, let nothing but a rumor of their destruction return to where they came from. There isn't going to be any allowance for them to get away. And it's most important again that everybody in the process understand the logistics issue first with again supporting the people that are going to show up to support you. I will remind you that you need to be ready with everything that's necessary to keep the troops in the field once this kicks off. So organize, arm, equipment, train as militia, establish a 510 program in your area of operations, logistics, the key to victory. A case of beans and wheeze, as Joe McNeil used to say, on the front porch and a case of ammunition for that unit that's going by. Times, however, many, many, many, many people that are out there ready to help is a significant boost up. And there's a lot of people that are already prepared for that. One of the other things is know your allies. I would point out that in Illinois, you need to find out who the individuals were that registered their weapons with the state. Not one of those horrors can be trusted. I cannot emphasize this enough. Any individual that registered any of their firearms will be planning on betraying you, period. Not maybe, not kind of, not sort of, period. They will betray you. So any individual, again, casual conversation, poke and prod a little bit. If somebody acts sheepish about that, you better put a question mark next to their name because whoever it is that has signed on the commie dotted line thinks that they've got a deal and they will screw you. So you need to be thinking ahead. And it's not really that difficult to do, but it means first finding out who's who in the zoo and who it is that will screw you. and the individuals that registered their weapons, they will. So the other issue again is timing. Now, I don't know, several people have actually pointed out to me that the word is out around all the law enforcement agencies in the Midwest, that they're looking to recruit for this activity. There's more than a few people who are able to access the database that the other side uses. And stuff is popping. Sorry about that, for whatever reason, we had to disconnect. Well, bad guys probably don't like what we're talking about. That's okay. Don't worry, we'll just keep talking about it. The big thing here again, since I don't know where we cut off, let's just assume you got heard most of it. The most important thing is to coordinate with each other, come up with a signal communications process so that you can warn and or work together. The individuals being attacked need to hold the center. The units that are coming out need to roll up the snipers, the ambush groups, any of the individuals that are in the outlying circle of the attack group that the MJTF, JTF have deployed. And the important thing here again is get watch for these stand-alones, the standoffs. This is something you're not supposed to think about. Hopefully you're listening to what I'm saying. is that these standoffs will be in buildings. You need to be constantly over-watching. If you identify a threat and you come under fire, hose down that position. It's worth expending ammo, but this is another reason you carry auxiliary magazine pouches beyond normal combat load. You're going into a fight and we don't want to run out of ammunition. Okay? Just a heads up there. Tell you what we're gonna do. I think if we aren't we're pretty we're pretty close to the bottom Of course, we just had a little break, but it is weapons Wednesday and on weapons Wednesday well, we have a very unique and Standard bottom of the hour break So I'll tell you But mind you man, it fills in our valleys There is danger, and there's danger in our hills Oh, here you're not just singing of the view, go wild and free But soon you'll know the ringing of the rifle from the tree Oh, the rifle, oh, the rifle In our hands, good proof, no trite-poles You may ride a goodly speed, you may not stern a master You forward much with speed, but you'll learn to back much faster When you meet our mountain boys And their leader John Stark Glad you make what little noise and always hit the mark Hold the rifle, hold the rifle In our hands we'll prove no strife No graves at home, back across the briney water And giddy must come, as well as to the slaughter But if we the job must do, then the sooner it is begun If Clinton's figure holds a buck through, the quicker it will be done Hold the rifle, hold the rifle In our hands we'll prove no true rifle Hold the rifle, hold the rifle In our hands we'll prove no true rifle Thank you, Edward. And again, for everybody out there, it is Weapons Wednesday. Your mind is your first best weapon. But if you don't back it up with ass, if you are ready to fight for it, someone's going to turn your head into a canoe and so much for the brain. So much for the mind. Go ahead, caller. What do we have? Since it's Weapons Wednesday, can you play Beelail Armalite? I haven't heard that song in a long time. As a matter of fact, we'll play two. Let's do this. My little armalite. And keep your rifle by your side. I'll have to talk a little bit in between, but I think Ed can find my little armolite right now. And for everybody out there, you're listening to us on LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com LibertyTreeRadio.org. you see monte amore 600 brave soldiers he has lined up at his feet come out ya carly fiñon when he heard the arm of light on his down in the lahy on to sea in the dark with the proton and another one on a kiss of onion itching for me little arm of light the army came to visit me was in the early hours with Saracens and Saladins and Ferris armored cars Sock a hot new corner just will I give them all a flight? Will the armor pierce and pull us off me little arm? A light on its own, but just where long to see? Company, ask for running in for me little arm! Me the battles won, the generals they had told him, we've stopped them on the run. But corporals in private, while on patrol at night, say remember narrow water and a bloody arm. A light on its own, across the glens. Thank you very much, Edward. There we go, Tom. And the next one up, your rifle by your side. For everybody out there, Eldron here. Singing, they just won't stay away. Singing, oh Lord, for this I won't need pay when we take a stand. No, we must protect our land. Keep your rifle by your side. When they'll come night, they'll have our children in their sight. So stand on every pass from north to south. When scream, they can shout, they will never push us out. Keep your rifle. Oh Lord for this I won't be paid when we take a stand No we must protect our lands Keep your rifle, buy yourself a tank Cause they've got funding from the banks We won't fall as long as we can fight They'll go on, but they won't get past the gate Keep your rifle Singing, won't stay away, singing For this I won't need pay when we take a stand No we must protect our lands Keep your rifle by your size In the east from the Great Plains to Tennessee They help us hold with all that we do need This comes another way from Red Sand Fran or Burned LA Keep your rifle Singing. aim for the groin, aim for the groin, aim for the groin. You blow out the hip, blow out a leg. Guys, there was a basic rule they used to teach is that, again, I've said many times, hits, count, misses don't. But if you recall on the live fire range, better to aim low, stud the bullet in front of the target than to be cracking over the head of the target and having no effect. Why is that? As is pointed out, when you play billiards, if you take that white ball and you hit something else with it, another ball, amazingly enough, the equal opportunity for force to be applied takes place. On the battlefield, it's no different with bullets. You may not kill the person, but hitting gravel, rock, a chunk of something, and in the biffs, of course, usually in the live fire ranges, they were heavily beaten down, no matter how hard they're trying to make them appear to be a little bit concealed. the pop-ups were, you know, cavitated in front from multiple, multiple bullet strikes. Well, as is pointed out, if a bullet hits a piece of rock, and the piece of rock then travels down range and hits somebody in the leg, the calf, the crotch, maybe it comes up and hits them right in the belly, that's just as good as shooting them with a bullet. In fact, they probably wish they were shot by a bullet. So again, better a low scud, not only that, maybe the bullet will just sit right at their feet. It flattens out, scimitars comes up, chops up the ankle, hits the calf, we don't care. Hits count, misses don't. But cracking over their head doesn't impress anybody after a while. This is why during the Iraq invasion, when we were over there working for the Israeli mafia to steal everything from Iraq that they could. And basically, we worked as the thugs, the knuckle dragging thugs to steal. for the, you know, the international bankers. The guys would tell you that if they heard a magazine, a whole magazine go off, they weren't too concerned because the person was probably watching too many movies pop out into the street, have the gun at hip height, angle it, and golf ball the rounds down range. Did he hit anything? No. But the person who's going boom, even if it's not a great gun, If he's going boom and then waiting, he's probably trying to see if he's hit you and he's making a greater effort. It's much more disconcerting to know that somebody's trying really hard to hit you and actually has an idea of how to do it. Maybe the weapon isn't up to snuff because in Iraq they had to piece together guns that have been demolished. The resistance, you didn't buy off the shelf, so to speak. They broke out the hammers, went into the scrap yards where they've blown up weapons. and pulled pieces out, hammered things together, and built an AK, especially the sheet metal receivers, the stamp receivers. They were easy to re-engineer. A lot of people have done that over the years. So again, if you got a piece here, a piece there, maybe out of eight wrecks, you get one gun. That's what they were doing. But even with that kind of weapon, the idea was try to aim, try to hit. Go ahead, call or jump in there, please. Well, I was going to say, this is Bruce from Lockshine Boykin. For years now, my target is 325 yards away. And I always use cardboard, like a five by five piece of cardboard. And I'm a terrible shot, just terrible. But what I know with All the days that I practiced, my cardboard is riddled with, and I always wanted to shoot low like you've always suggested, I always thought that was the greatest idea. Initially because I was such a lousy shot, but it was riddled. My cardboard was tore apart with fragments of all kinds of stuff. Right. You know, absolutely what you're saying is a way to go. I mean, don't they have, my enemy might have chest protection. So if I'm shooting at that height, especially at that distance, I don't want to be any closer. Now this is in northern Michigan, so I have that choice, but I don't want, I don't want to be any closer to these guys, but I always found exactly what you're saying. Just that track, all of everything, the jacket, the rocks, the the wood, the chips, the... All of it hurts. ...swigs, everything. It just riddles that target. And here, well the advantage here again is remember most people haven't shot at people. We understand this. And everybody usually will flap their yap on, oh you never shot anybody. Don't worry, we'll make up for that. Trust me, we'll make up for that. And the way to do it is by is what we're describing. You need to immediately reign in the energy available and the best way to do that is to give them a more applicable point of contact to engage the target. And in this case, lower area, motor function dictates that that area is weak in protection. I don't care if the bullet stops, say, with a groin plate, because it's not going to stop. It's going to scut around. That's the only thing about bullets. You guys have all seen what bullets do. They follow the path of least resistance. So a bullet that hits on a piece of protective plate or the edge of something will have a tendency to spall and roll around. It actually tumbles around the corner. Now, they're not saying to me, well, he shoots around corners. No, that's not what we're saying. But it does, what happens is the physics of that long cylindrical copper jacketed piece of lead is such that when it distorts, it does all kinds of unique physical things. And for this reason, there's a lot of science applied here that it's pretty straightforward. The neat thing is that, again, hits, counts, misses, don't. This gives you the opportunity to tie up more people. They always talk about the wound them, don't kill them. It's true. In a situation like this, your enemy doesn't have but so many secret police. They think that they want to kick in the doors of America and ransack the country. They've got a bunch of puffed up P-brains that are all bouncing up and down on the idea that they're gonna go out and rape, kill, pillage, and burn America. And these fools are gonna have to be taught a very, very specific lesson. And we are the ones that are going to have to do it. So we need to, again, practice, practice, practice, practice. Experiment with placement of rounds. Don't forget also, depending on what you have that you're using in the way of a primary weapon, if you're using a 30-06, guys, there's not a whole lot in Michigan that's going to slow that down that's in the way of organics. That 30 out 6 plows through everything, especially a ball round. If it's a hunting round of whatever kind, whatever soft point, hollow point, nozzler, whatever, you're gonna get different results. But still it is devastating your high-powered deer rifles, you know, there are nothing to sneeze at in fact just to reverse they are one of the preferred Inventory items that we want to have in the field deployed. We need it as part of a combined arms team And in this case, we're not talking, you know, the the next tier up in tactical with mechanized artillery and air But rather a combined arms team within the squad And everybody has the ability to do this. All of you are capable of performing effectively with this technology. Trust me on this one. And a lot of guys, they've taken a gear every year. That's what always gets me. It's like, well, what should I bring? Well, what are you good with? Think about it. What are you good with? Most everybody thinks that, no, I've watched a lot of movies and they're always carrying, yeah, I know what they're showing you in the movies. But understand that the expertise that all of you people have developed is something that most of the rest of the world doesn't even come near. Does everybody understand that? Color, just like you said, you're shooting out your backyard, you got the back 40, you're able to shoot as you choose to. I've said this many times, how were the Iraqi resistance troops trained? When we were over there trying to steal everything from Iraq, okay, fine, we were doing that. How did the resistance train? Well, they had no training facility. They had no place they could go. There wasn't anywhere where they could shoot. So a lot of these young individuals basically improvised and unfortunately because of that it cost them their lives. You guys are all in a very, the material base that we have and the personnel base that we have is so phenomenally trained and has sufficient expertise with their weapon of choice that the fools on the other side really don't stand a chance as long as you apply the science you understand. You guys are in a much better situation than all the rest of the world. Everybody else. Nobody else can own guns. And if they do, it's to whatever degree of looking hind end, looking bung hole to apologize for having whatever you have. And in America, we don't have that problem. Well, I mean, there are places where we've let the companies go too far. But all of you out there listening, you all have the ability to perform just as well as any military force on the planet, in fact, superior to many. They always puff it up because they got a spiffy green uniform for whatever army they're running out there. Yeah, it looks really cool I'm impressed with the fact that they're strapped. They're squared away. It looks good But it means nothing when it comes to performance in the field. I like uniforms. Yeah, of course, that's cool But in your situation for all of you listening you have a greater potential With regard to your ability to put a bullet where it needs to be then pretty much 90% of the population out there And I'm talking about not just in the United States, I'm talking a world. You guys have the edge. Now what you need to do is apply it, what needs to happen. And we are going to be applying it very soon. There's no doubt they're coming. Anybody tried to argue otherwise got their heads so far up their fundamental orifice they couldn't blow it out with a crowbar. It's that simple, they're coming. So we need to be ready to deal with the problem, already make the choice of what we're gonna do. In other words, as I've said many, many, many times about this, you already have to have made your decision. If you choose not to, I understand, but if that's the case, you better take everything out of your house. You better run it down the road, make it disappear because they are coming. Either that or do you plan on surrendering it to the enemy? If you're gonna surrender to the enemy, how about you give it to an ally? I'm curious about the idea about where people are going to go with this as far as with what's developing, what we're seeing right now. What's in the mind of some of these people? And not exactly impressive in some cases. There's, and of course, it's well, if they pass this, we'll just have to, no, we won't. We don't have to give them anything. You bought the weapons for a reason. When they want to come and confiscate the weapons, this is why you bought the weapons. Does everybody understand? Oh, there's a bunch of people that are gums about the rocks. But it's amazing how many people actually are up to speed. And remember, here's one of the things that's happening right now. A lot of people are just quietly pacing. I think that's one of the other things that we've got to remember. And I've run into this way too much as it is. It's like, well, everybody is kind of acknowledging that has a brain where this is going. Okay? But there's still this hope that somehow they'll glide through. There's always that hope. There's always the idea that, well, we could just, it will just slide through this and then, and if we did slide through it, and here's the problem. What would happen if, let's say that we get the Donald Trump scenario played the way everybody seems to think they want it. What would happen in the country? Does anybody out there believe the commies are going to let go? Caller, do you think the communists are going to let go? No, we all, okay, I've said before, it's different shades of, you know, Lenin, Stalin, and Trotsky. Always remember that, that's what you're dealing with here. He's not quite as much of a communist. Well, Mr. Trump was a leftist, a liberal in New York. He married into liberal money in New York, I should say, as far as his family. So much so that they converted to being Jewish. So what does that tell you? And that's why they're trying to make the family disappear in the background temporarily, but the family was tied into all their stuff the last four years. And because of that, all of the Trotskyite or Lenin type communists that they were associated with, including Trump's family, who are registered Democrats, not Republicans, okay, we have no illusions here, let's have no illusions. I'm not saying that, well, if Trump gets in, the only thing that's gonna happen, is that basically they will idle through while they're busy making significant entrenchment in roads across the country with what they've already put in place. They're not going to let go and Trump has already started talking about, I'm not gonna be into getting even or retribution. No, remember that's like saying, Hillary and Bill are good people, which by the way he actually said. So, which is it? You should be in jail or Hillary and Bill are good people. Which is it? See, that's the part nobody wants to be reminded of cuz we're hoping for the rose colored glasses, pickle smoking mirrors. Maybe we can glide through this. Maybe I'll be able to sit in my dead ass and do nothing until I die and somebody else will have to deal with it, which I don't think we really wanna wish on our family. Yeah, after that primary, that's one of the first things he said was, you know, it's time that we all got to get along and this and that. And it's like, my heart sunk when you said that, because I'm always been a Trump guy. But I'm like, man, we can't keep doing this. We can't do this. These scumbags are just, they won't stop. They're relentless. I mean, really what? They just don't stop. And, uh... Well, it's how we need to be. Oh, man. I'm like, go ahead, Mark. No, no, I'm saying, it's how we need to be. You're right on the money. We need to be that way. We're not going to stop. This is the part that they're always counting on is that there'll be some piss willies who will jump up and go oh guys Let's make a deal I pointed this out about the American war for independence when you hear anything about the the the war for independence You always hear this spirit of 76 right guys Am I right? You know, that's what you keep hearing. Well, that's nice But it used to be when Americans were being taught to be Americans, that we all knew that Patriots Day is on 19th April 1775. Well, by excluding, and again, I will point this out again, who voted on April 19th? Do you think there was a ballot box set up on April 19th? Anybody? Was there a ballot box set up on April 19, 1775? Sure there was. You know what the ballot box was? No, I'm sorry. I'm not trying to over talk yet. Yeah, no, in theory there was. It was that federal government agent that we were shooting all the way back to Boston. That was a ballot box. But you see why they have to completely change your brain? and make you think about, Joy 4th, 1776. That's where we expressed what the people as a whole had already expressed. That's why you don't see me sign anything, Liberty 1776. You'll notice in anything that I make comments anywhere, or if I post anything anywhere, I sign off with Liberty 1775. Yeah, and God bless Republic, death and the world order, we shall prevail. But the thing is, guys, the reason for this is obvious. That was our time. We made the decision. We didn't ask permission. We chose to vote with a trigger pull. And they don't want you to realize that. They don't want you to think about that. They don't want you to understand the nature of how this country came about. Because yes, 4th of July was very important. It's where we finally got the administrative structure together and made a declaration to the world. But we had already made the declaration both to England and the world. And we had been at battle for 14 months before the Fourth of July. So which one counts? By the way, if you look at any information on the war for independence, they don't shave that year off and say, yeah, it was from Fourth of July, that's when we were fighting. No, instead it goes to the inception date, the eight years of fighting that took place in America. Go ahead, color, jump in there. After I voted, I went and bought a couple box of ammo. I put I voted on the box of ammo and I shared with people. People thought I was crazy. They think I'm crazy. Thought I was crazy for doing that. Right. And the question would be why? Think about it. For most people, and this is well here again, not most people. I've always played. No, we just kept investing. I'm a firm believer in 7.62 by 39. I'm a firm believer in the ballot box in 5.56 NATO. I'm a firm believer in voting as many times as we possibly can, because down the road, that's exactly what we're going to be doing. So again, the one thing This is all pivoting now around Illinois and it's interesting because it's not, again, we'd say it's not accidental. Well, we know it's intentional, obviously. But what's fascinating about this is they are implying that they believe they can get away with this. They do believe they are testing the water. It's the old Wicked Witch of the West thing. It's not if it's going to happen. It is simply when it's going to happen. Now here's the other part about that, just like you said, Tom. Well, you put, you know, I voted and you bought, you know, on your boxes of them. Oh, it's strange. Okay, well pay attention. Whoever said that, those are people you want to know. Can't really count on that person, can you? I want you to remember that. This is the one thing about everything that you do allows for you to identify the environment more effectively every aspects or every part of the environment that you're moving through the world that you live in. And as far as I'm concerned, there's no way out of this. I don't see anything that is going to make this better. The half bucket of poison is absolutely served up and there is no way that you're gonna get it back. I just don't see it. Everybody is, the old story, wishing one hand, defecating the other and see which one gets full first. And a lot of people are hoping, but no, it's just not gonna work. And the reason I say that is because the precursor to what's coming has already shown you just how hateful, how wicked, and how denial they are across the board. That's not going to change. Anybody believe that's going to change? I think we all understand. In fact, we have to do this. We're not getting any younger. Okay, that's the other thing. And so let's accept the idea we're going to war in 24. Act accordingly. Organize armed equipment. Train as militia. Establish a 5-10 program in your area of operations. Logistics. The key to victory. Understand that we need logistics at the tactical level. Know that the bad guys are puffed up on themselves. Though they're bragging amongst themselves right now. They're gonna come out and kill us. That's okay. We're all knowing that we're gonna have to risk it. We're going to do the same by them when the time comes. And all of you need to be prepared, need to act accordingly in preparation for what's coming. You need to train. Now I can't emphasize that enough. An individual marksmanship isn't the only thing you need to be concerned with. But marksmanship is something you have to embrace, you need to develop. Beyond that though, all the other issues we've talked about, medical support, keeping people alive. Guys, we have to husband our forces. If you're listening out there, being part of a medical unit is as critical as being with an infantry rifle unit. In fact, I will tell you again, my emphasis, even though we have many, many, many militia formations across not just the state of Michigan, but all over the country, But my emphasis in the last couple of months has been to try and get as many medical units up and online as possible as quickly as possible. It's an odd man outthink, the most thing that most people don't think about. When I was collecting medical equipment years ago, I had some characters that were going, hey, Mark, you're really, you know, it's disheartening the guys that you're, you're collecting this medical gear. And it's like, well, I, anybody here got a magic force field that I missed? What? Anybody here got a magic force field? Okay, since we don't have a magic force field, I think we can pretty well figure someone's going to get snagged and tagged with a bullet. So you better get your act together. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his... His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three cornered hat. We fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we give in this delight. Brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate. And your Christian values can't be taught. According to the state, you read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You trade it in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize family farms. and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God-given right, and pray to God, get the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke he vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each god given right, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave the land of the free? afternoon ladies and gentlemen this is the second hour of the intelligence report I'm Mark Carkey. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines at occupied territories west north southeast and listening to us on www.libertytreeradio.4mg.com. Libertytreeradio.org. And we're on satellite. Let's see, hide all our merchant rain operators out there. No matter what body of water you're on at this moment. We know that people are virtually on every puddle, stream, creek, lake, inland sea, Great Lakes frozen. Take your pick. We are everywhere with satellite. And myriad of other communications technologies both inside and outside these United States. It is Wednesday, it is weapons Wednesday. It is the 17th of January. It is the 16th year of open, obvious and in your face Fabian socialist and Soviet socialist occupation of America with a K2024 old earth calendar 2024. Battle for the Republic the dance of swords let the dance continue and for everybody it is 2024 and we are the 17th we're ticking down the days. We're not gone yet We have plenty of time in January, but it's moving so act accordingly be prepared forgive me. There's something else going on here and I'll tell you what we're gonna do. I do not know if guns and gadgets posted a If he posted it, if Jared posted anything today because he was in Virginia for the legislation, open house, this legislative open house in Richmond. So guys, if we could, Ted, let's see what guns and gadgets has available. And if we could, let's pop that up and into the screen here. We'll put this on the air. I can't hear you. So I had to take my hat and gloves off because I got challenged. I'm originally from New England, so this isn't really cold. And I rewrote this speech because I woke up today and I had my account suspended for telling the truth and showing freedom things on Facebook. So I rewrote this speech with a little bit of anger, there's a little bit of bite into it, and I'm going to need you guys to get involved. First off, thank you to Phil and the entire VCDL team for having me back here. Thank you to the other speakers and thank you to the delegates that are here. By us being here at the Virginia State Capitol sends a message. And believe me when I tell you that the rest of the country's eyes are on you right now. And like I mentioned, I rewrote this speech again today. It was actually the fourth time I rewrote it in the last three days. But first, let's make some noise. If you were here at a previous lobby day, make some noise. If you're going to be here at next year's lobby day, make some noise. Now the next thing I'm going to ask you to do is make enough noise where they hear you in that building and the governor hears you over there and they hear you in the capital and all the cops surrounding us and all the drones and the helicopters hear us. USA! USA! USA! Y'all, boy do I feel safe when I walk past those signs that ban guns here. For some reason they don't like Berettas or firecrackers, but I feel really, really safe here. and that's the that's what got me banned on uh... face book this morning was that post so it's funny to me that the united states supreme court not too long ago said that in order for any government restriction infringement on the second amendment for anything to stand it must be consistent with this nation's history on firearm regulation anybody here including Boys in blue or drone pilots show me somewhere in the Constitution where it says you can put up those signs and make our rights go away on this ground here. Anybody? That's unconstitutional. That's why we're here. Because people in those buildings think they know more than you. They think they can control you. And our forefathers died to stop this stuff. Signs can't make your right null and void. Fake dotted lines on a map don't make your rights null and void. But for some reason, we've been guided into that like a bunch of sheep where we think, eh, you know, maybe we should just comply. No more. 24 is a different year, y'all. Over the last three days, I've traveled this state in search of motivation on what I wanted to say to you guys today. And I figured I wanted to talk about motivation, determination, and solidarity. On Friday, I visited Mount Vernon, which is the home of our first president, the General George Washington, a founding father. It was extremely powerful. If you have not made that trip, do it. You have no excuse. You live a lot closer than I do. Saturday, I visited Monticello, the home of the author of the Declaration of Independence. You guys heard of that? Also, the second governor of Virginia, the first secretary of state, the second vice president, and the third president of the United States, Thomas Jefferson. Do you think that those two Virginians would be happy that we have to be here doing what we're doing now? They're probably rolling in the graves right now. Both of these men, like the brethren, just like them, had huge roles in creating the longest running experiment this planet has ever seen. A constitutional republic that they call the United States of America. And it's on us to keep it that way. They knew that if they were able to motivate the colonies that their dream of a free country had a chance. They knew that if they could keep those colonists determined, they could defeat tyranny. The strongest army and navy in the world. Just a bunch of farmers with some muskets. They knew that if Americans did not stand together in solidarity, then the whole idea that we were endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights, among those being life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, would go down the drain and not get passed down to the next generation. Almost 250 years ago, these brilliant men knew that we had to fight tyranny at every single step and couldn't give an inch. But we hear again. Four years ago tens of thousands of American patriots stood right where we are right now Some estimates said 75,000 folks not a single incident. They left it cleaner than when they showed up We didn't need the police. We didn't need drones. We didn't need helicopters. None of it. We are not the problem the criminals are Those signs aren't gonna stop any criminal from walking on to this area right here. None of it. Thank you so much. I appreciate you Hey guys, let me hear you if you were here four years ago. Make some noise. Let me hear you if you love this country and will stand for our rights. More importantly, let me hear you if you think that other people who don't think the same way that we do still have their right to disagree. That's called patriotism, y'all. And patriotism is amazing. It's a huge statement that you all made four years ago. Now all the cops if we were doing this they'd be down here locking these people up But because it's gun owners, they're gonna stay in there with their hands in the pockets. It's okay But what happened is four years ago the delegates here who are anti-gun anti-american anti freedom They realized that they kicked a hornet's nest. There's a hornet right here But once again we're here at the Virginia State Capitol surrounded by local state and Capitol Police and I'm here to tell you that there's probably a few feds mixed in. We're here using our First Amendment right, the free speech and assembly. All right y'all there's like 54 cops here if someone wants to come do their job that's fine. If these big fitness energy fans at Planet Fitness join today for 24 cents down $10 a month, can't pull any time. Hopefully I didn't disappear. Now y'all, that is 100% irrefutable proof that we are not the problem. Now like I said, we're here again four years after they realized that they had screwed up. We're surrounded by police because they thought we were going to do what she did. But that's her right. But we're not the problems, y'all. And we're here to ensure that Washington and Jefferson and many others didn't sacrifice everything for us to drop the ball. For those keeping score this year, these anti-American, anti-freedom Democrat communists here in Virginia are at it again, it's the full court press. Why are we here? Because they want to make it illegal for anyone under 21 to buy any kind of firearm. Put a 5% tax on guns and ammunition so they can use our Second Amendment money to take away our right by using it for a gun violence intervention program. They want to require a three-day waiting period to purchase firearms. If that's not enough, there's another bill to make it a five-day waiting period. They can't even get themselves on the same page. They want to stop NRA and USCCA certified firearms instructors from teaching courses that keep people safe and teach them how to use those tools, and they want it to be government controlled because government fixes everything. They want to prohibit concealed carry in restaurants that just happen to serve alcohol. They want to ban semi-automatic rifles in magazines that hold more than 10 rounds because that 11th round makes you John Wick. I didn't even realize that I was that good. I just need to play with that 11th round more often. They want to make semi-automatic rifle possession illegal for anyone under 21 years of age. When those same folks, the same adults were the ones who made this country free. It's amazing. They want to ban care in hospitals, emergency rooms, and other places that provide mental health and developmental services. They want to make unserialized guns illegal. Now get this, even ones before the Gun Control Act of 1968, that's when they required serial numbers. So all the guns that the government, the federal government says you don't need to have serial numbers on, well, this building wants you to do that now. That's insane. It's absolutely hilarious on how disconnected they really are. They want to take away the gun rights of people who live in a home where someone who just happened to be the subject of an unconstitutional red flag gun. confiscation they even want to expand that gun confiscation and more there's more i just got too mad night through my phone when i was right now so they've obviously forgot what happened four years ago and we are called you virginia It is your time to get motivated to tell your legislators to back down. It is your time to be determined to get involved, not just today, but every day. It doesn't take long to contact your legislators, no matter where you live in the state. A phone works. An email works. talking to friends at the water fountain works, spreading the word in your neighborhood, at your church, in your community works. And that's what we need. We need people to get involved. It's your time to stand shoulder to shoulder with your American patriots here in Virginia in solidarity. Why? Because we need you. Why? Because Virginia needs you. Why? Because your children and your grandchildren need you so that we can pass on freedom to the next generation. I live in Tennessee just south of Bristol by and in Virginia at least five times a month. The world is watching America right now like never before. Are we going to be a free country or are we going to be communist? Things like this make the decision, y'all. Please get involved. The people in that building and that building and the men and women surrounding us at this event today in uniform, even those ones on the rooftop behind me, and the ones flying the whirly bird. They all took an oath to protect and defend the United States Constitution at all costs. Yet we're here again. They took that oath and every single one of these bills is a direct violation of our United States Constitution, your Virginia Constitution, and your unalienable right given to us by our Creator to be free. We don't get our rights from people in a shiny white building. Are you still interested in a solar power generator? Because pay special attention because I'm going to do something that until... Not a single one of those bills, not a single one of those folks walking in circles, will stop anybody from walking past a sign who's doing criminal acts. Criminals are criminals, it's actually part of the definition, if you look it up. Now I want to add that I was in law enforcement for more than two decades, don't hold it against me. I always said I was the most constitutional cop to lace them up. And it got me into a lot of trouble with the guys in the station. But you need to know, especially the law enforcement folks, they need to know that their oath means something. I took two oaths, one with the United States Navy and one as a law enforcement officer. My oath still stands today. I will protect and defend at all costs. And no tyranny can be carried out if law enforcement doesn't do it. Because delegates aren't coming to kick your door in. That would be funny. All they need to do is stand with the Constitution and the rest will take care of itself. We're at a crossroads in this country's history, y'all. We've already strayed way too far from what the Founding Fathers had established. Now is the time to take back control of government, not just this government, all government, from school board meetings where it's been injected with wokeness and craziness, all the way up to DC. We the people have the power. We the people are their bosses. We the people have backed off for far too long. Get involved. I hope that you will get determined, I hope that you will get motivated, and I hope that you will stand with everybody else in solidarity. The time is now. Make your voices heard. Guys and gals, I hope you want to go in the buildings and speak with your delegates. That's why you're here. They absolutely need to hear from you. They hear from the groups like Moms to Man Action and Every Town for Gun Safety. They're busting by the thousands. The problem is most of us have jobs and we don't get paid to travel in buses. Please take the time to ensure your children's freedom and go in and tell these folks to back down. Thank you all for coming to the Virginia Citizens Defense League 21st Lobby Day and I hope that I can see you at the 22nd Lobby Day. We the people, y'all, never forget it. Be safe, stay vigilant, and carry a gun to keep you, your friends, your family, and your community safe. Folks died for that. Thank you. All right, Mark, you may have to start six to unmute yourself there. There we go, one, two, three. And again, we have people who are obviously listening from Virginia. They might be there, give us a little feedback. How did things go? And for all of that is good. I heard you ask, did we lose you? At that point, the person who edited the video to tone down the audio, but there was a couple of people that were running through Jared's speech, carrying signs, getting up behind him and forcing their way in behind the cameras, which is why he stopped and asked cops to do their job, which of course they never did. Right, worthless turds are doing what worthless turds do. That's what we've, you know, again, as he pointed out, you know what? If we decided we want to get rid of the problem, oh, they'd be screaming and hollering and jumping in there and beating on the firearms owner, but that's because The cops are there, typically the perverts who have a little orgies off to the side. They snort the dope, they tag during the week, booze up, probably have a few prostitutes there. Chief makes sure they're all together on that, so that they are all kind of co-incriminated. That's why a lot of people call those groups gangs, okay? And a lot of the cop shops, guys, that's the stuff they do. Not all of them. There's a lot of, there's people out there who try to do right, but- There's a whole bunch of wrong that got hired specifically because they're willing to do wrong. So we have to do right by our own people when the time comes. Organize our equipment train as militia. Establish a 5-10 program in your area of operations. Logistics, the key to victory. Don't forget again that the deep larder I talk about can be anything. Guys, some of you have access to material that you can get for free. It could be foodstuffs, could be any number of things. Grab all that you can, work with other people to deploy or redeploy to stack and rack what you can access. And let's continue to build right up until the kickoff. And of course, let's see before we go any farther and again that was guns and gadgets, we're at the bottom. Guess what? We are at the bottom of the hour. You're listening to LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com LibertyTreeRadio.org And for everybody out there again because it is the bottom of the hour and it's Weapons Wednesday that means that this is my room. There are many like it, but this one is absolutely mine. Ed's working on it. Also, don't forget, I highly recommend if you haven't already done it, pick up an AM-FM shortwave receiver. Basically looks like a little boom box. Typically they have alternate power supplies on board, solar panel and crank. Those are the best choice because you have power constantly available from one source or another. And you can hear us at 8 o'clock on 6.160 regular shortwave WBCQ, the planet. And that's eight to nine, Monday through Friday. Say hi, listen in, test your technology if you get a radio. Don't leave it in the box. Get it out of the box, power it up, and confirm that it works. This is the one problem with electronics. Remember, a China support builds most of this and there is no guarantee new out of the box is gonna work. This is not America. This is not American products. Pretty much there's very little of anything that's an American product and any more at all. In electronics, you have to test it. You have to run it. You have to make sure it works. If it doesn't, take it back in. See if you can find another one. If it looks like there's an endemic problem that's consistently failing, well then maybe you should change to another model. That would probably be your best choice. But test your equipment out before you go any farther. And we are at the bottom of the hour. You should be hearing the bottom of the hour. This is the first piece of our bottom of the hour break. Well, maybe something else happened. Maybe I may not even be here. There we go. It is my life before God. You may ride a goodly speed, you may know it's turn to master. You forward much with speed, but you'll learn the back much faster when you meet our mountain boys. And they'll leave their journey stark. Glad you make what little noise and always hit the mark. Hold the rifle, hold the rifle. In our hands, we'll prove no strife. Bottom of the hour? And I'll tell you what, Edward, if you could, riding a raid. For everybody out there, this is going to be part of your tactical repertoire when the time comes. It's riding a raid. And for everybody out there, mechanized, light air mobile, take or pick, we've got a number of options. Everybody's pretty well developed to technology. We already have experience with the equipment. So, getting it to work the way it's supposed to is not the problem. It's making sure we know when to apply all the tools we have in our toolbox, and we will. So, for everyone out there, again, riding a raid. It is Weapons Wednesday. I would remind you, too, don't forget, check out Botash.com we've mentioned these mags. They still have them four dollars and ninety six cents apiece Top off your magazine inventory We are looking for some M1A. I had a lot of requests. You know where can we find you know a good price for M1A slash M14 mags Working on that because there are a few sources that we have in our backyard here. They only sell to Patriots bought a lot of stuff back when it was cheap cheap cheap and they have a very large inventory. So for everybody again, be patient. I'll pass that on. Also, Mottie Griffin, the Mottie Griffin manual for everybody that's listening out there. This is the how to build manual cost in printing and the shipping. Shipping was about $3 and plus or minus 50 cents. So it's $15. That covers the copying of the product. printing gun up, which is stupid. That's why I'm gonna start running these printers very, very soon. They've already got one on test run. I'm gonna put the manual into the memory on that one, so all I have to do is hit a button and she goes. And then when that one burns out, I'm gonna pull the other one out of the box. It's brand new and use it, run it into the ground. But $15, if you would like a copy of the Maddy Griffin Build Manual, Go to www.libertytreeradio.4mg.com. When you get there, go to the donate key, donate any amount, in this case, that matches up, $1.5, $15. And once you have the $15 logged in there, don't forget to not leave until you leave a mailing address so we will know where to send the information. And so far we've got every manual out that was requested. Again, watch your mailbox if you haven't gotten it already. I know some of our people, they can give us a little feedback. As you do receive it, you can send me an email at liberty at provide.net. Give me a thumbs up that you got it. Make sure it's okay. And of course you can also mail in a request. You can grab an envelope and the mailing address is PBN PO Box 194. Dexter, Michigan 48130. And once you put that on the envelope, you can also use that for the return address. That way, no matter what it gets to us, you know, you don't have to put your return address on the outside. But what we do need is a mailing address to ship the package to you once we get it in, you know, letter form. So, make sure you put a printed label on the inside or a printed address on a piece of paper on the inside. Cash checker money order, $15. If you do checker money order, you can leave it blank or you can make the check out to Nancy, last name K-O-E-R-N-K-E. And what we'll do is shoot it to you in the mail as quick as we can. The envelopes are stacked up here ready to go. All I have to do is have an address and a where to ship them. And it'll be out in your hands as quickly as possible. I will remind you that if you're serious about doing a Motti Griffin, you need to be tracking down M2 .50 caliber barrels. There are a number of sources. SARCO does have M2 50 caliber barrels of different grades on a regular basis. SARCO, but also AIM, or not forgive me, not AIM, apexgunparts.com. Now I do not know what they have in stock right now, but they have been getting a lot of other unique barrels. So they do have some M2, I think they have some M3 also. Now that's a little different bird, but guys have actually used the M3 barrel as needed. And that of course is over at apexgunparts.com. You can get over there, check out their inventory, see if it makes sense. And if it fits your budget, then you might want to purchase a barrel because you're going to need that to complete the rest of the mission if you're going to build a Mardi Gras 50 caliber. It's a single shot design, by the way, very simple design and very, very user friendly for production. So, once you get in motion on this, you'll be able to finish it up pretty quick too. There's no reason to hesitate or wait. Get it done, get it in the inventory, understand, get it out on the range, find out where it's hitting, and adjust accordingly. Now, the other thing there with the .50 cal guns is investing in the right piece of glass to go on the roof. There are a number of different companies. My recommendation is look to see what Mark Servu has. And look at what's being done with the Barrett rifles. Although it's not a Barrett, no, it's not a 6, 7, 8, 9, $10,000 gun. It's a simple single shot, but the basic physics apply with regard to the optics that you need for that weapon. So you can look to see what other people are doing. Go to YouTube, check out 50 caliber shoulder fired weapons slash firearms. Barrett, again, Mark Serbu has an excellent channel and he's been building for a very long time. And in fact, theoretically, he owes us a 50 caliber. I just remembered that. And he has to talk to him about that one. So that would be something for the maybe a unique drawing, as a matter of fact. We'll wait and see. I have to talk to him about that one. But, again, the optics, that's the two biggest expenses are going to be the barrel and the optics. And some people ask me, would you put iron sights on the body? Yes, I would. I would, in fact, do a, I think what I would do with the newer model, if I were building right now, is do a Bren gun type side iron system. If you go take a look at how the Bren gun is put together and how the Bren gun's sights are situated on the weapon, that probably would be the way to go to leave a set of iron sights on the weapon permanently. You don't want to lose them. They would be semi-detachable. But the big thing is that again you always have them available. If something happens or the optics get ding, you still have the ability to at least keep the bullet somewhere around the target and continue to make people nervous, which is more important than anything else, is keeping the weapon in the game. So the process of applying iron sights There are a number of different solutions people came up with years ago. Some of those are posted in different chat areas. Might want to look at Mark Serbo's design, some of the stuff he's come up with, which not everything that he's come up with is he put into full production. But the weapons are pretty interesting, the stuff that he's experimented with. He's been doing light rifle work. Now, I would also point out that if you have the Mardi Grifen design, Guys, you can scale it up or down. Not many people want to go up because you got to go up to like 14.5 millimeter or 20 millimeter, but you can go down to 30 out of 6. Barrels are readily available. God, there's tons of stuff laying out there. So you could literally build up a Mahdi medium rifle. Since the Mahdi is a heavy rifle in .50 caliber, in a .30-06, .270, whatever rifle caliber you choose, purely a matter of what barrel is laying around, but the design is so incredibly simple that we can crank out many, many, many, many, many of these as placement rifles. Which is what we need we need more you know as an as an accurate individual marksman's weapon Looking at it as a mr. Dolby gun That's the best way to think about it. You know mr. Dolby one-shot boom, and you don't shoot again You just fade off into the distance however you tag the aggressor You may have wounded him, may have put a hole in him and he's dead or in a doordale, but you don't follow up with a second shot. You just carry out with whatever you're doing. Get down the road, come back out onto the battlefield in another area of opportunity, tag another aggressor, wound, kill, doesn't make any difference, and back off into the shadows. One shot, and that's it. But every time you put a bullet down range, you tag somebody. That's the important aspect of the, well, the concept of this type of application. Remember, Mr. Dolby was using a 43 Egyptian Wilmington Rolling Block. Why? Well, if you don't remember, maybe you do, you can go find some old shotgun news forever if you know anything about Sarco. SACO had for decades, they must have had piles in the caverns down below, but they had for, first it was $50, I think it was actually $27.50, that's one of those other old magic numbers in guns. And after a while, they always have it, their shotgun news ad, it was an Egyptian, 43 caliber Egyptian, Remington Rolling Block, no FFL required, And the guns were actually pretty decent. They were not tired. They weren't worn out. They still had good rifling. They had a good crown. And they went up to $75 apiece and they hovered there forever. I mean, they just never ran out of them. Well, I know a lot of guys who bought many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many of these, okay? Now, the thing is, well, you can't get ammo. Sure you can. You have to build it. And so in reality, what's rather fascinating is several independent reloaders started to build 43 Egyptian. And if you're willing to develop the case from other brass, it was not a big deal to make a 43 Egyptian straight case round. Basically, it's the equivalent to a 4570 in performance. And as a Mr. Dolby gun, we load it up. Aim on target, tag him in the leg, tag him in the butt, tag him in the chest, tag him in the back. That's it. Cease fire. Put the weapon down, extract the empty case, insert another so you're ready to fire if you need to to protect yourself. But you just fade back into the darkness. And again, doesn't that be a very fancy weapon to do that? If you're a rifleman. Then being able to tag an aggressor in between two houses over into another neighborhood from a second floor or from a ground floor looking through in between houses to where the bad guys are going door to door to confiscate stuff and you just go boom and you see the guy drop and he's holding his leg and he ain't getting up right away another buddy will come and help him Maybe you shoot that guy too, maybe not. That's an attitude thing. You don't want to hang around too long. You've caused problems. The idea is that the enemy never knows when the next one's coming. So one of these .50 cal rifles can perform the same way with devastating results. Also a number of other projects for these .50 caliber bull guns in terms of application within the team, especially with a defense in depth or a defense ambush structure. Don't forget, lay in place, anti-thermal protection, everything's ready to go. Let the aggressor move through and put a boat right up their hind end from a number of different obliques and break contact immediately. So again, there are a number of different things. By the way, yes, somebody's asking right here. Hold on. Yeah, I've mentioned this before. You could take the Maddy Griffin design. Thank you for our listeners. I just got this as a spike. You could take the Mardi Griffin design and scale it down to 5.56. Seriously, once you have the basics, remember guys, 5.56 is scaled down 30 out of 6. M250 caliber is scaled up 30 out of 6 in terms of the case. So all the physics, the basics are all there. Everything's worked out. All you have to do is scale up. or in this case because it's already a 50 cal, you can step it down or you can step it down yet again. And both 30-06 or 308, 7.62 by 51 NATO would work just as well. And 5.56 can all be built off of the manual for the Mardi Grifen as is. And you're looking at a pretty decent firearm. In fact, the 5.56 can't produce any pressure. It would be an incredibly safe firearm. and an incredibly comfortable firearm to shoot in 5.56. Now it won't be as big, you're scaling everything down accordingly, but it would be a very useful weapon to have in the inventory. And you can build it up with any number of barrels. Let me remind you, gunpartscorp.com has a ton of different barrels out there for any number of different weapons. So if you were looking at wanting to make this say a body in maybe you want to move it to 45.70. There's all kinds of 45-70 barrels out there. You want to go with a brand new barrel. You can go to Douglas or any number of other companies and buy a stock piece of barrel and then you're just going to have to chamber it. That's all technology that's over the counter. You can do it. But the fact of the matter is that it purely a matter of how creative you want to be. My personal attitude is, and I actually talked to several of the gun manufacturers about this years ago, the only thing that they were whining about is that, well it wouldn't cost them any more to do a say a 5.56 Mahdi type gun or a single shot off any of the .50 caliber single shot designs. But it would cost just as much to make it. Yeah, but if you're okay, in fact, I had, there were some people who lamented when I brought this up. I had a lot of personal conversations with the individuals on this. And it's the idea that, well, your cost of materials are minimal. Your cost in terms of development is nothing, zero. You've already got the basic technology in hand. You can make money off this. If you wanted to produce it as a paper and firearm under an FFL, if it were to be built, as an over-the-counter gun, it would be a good design. And in fact, you could add more bells and whistles, make the thing a more sophisticated rifle in general. But most of them did the Stanley Weiner Weinerbaum. I have talked to Mark Serbo about it, but the others that I did, oh, God, it was like drippy. Okay, I didn't need to hear your limitations. Oh, it's horrible and terrible. The world's life is bad. Oh, my God. It's like, oh, you would be amazed how many neurotic people are actually out there. So anyway, next, let's see, we've got enough time. Yes, we do. It's actually 6.48 right now. I would also remind everybody that we are, of course, coming up on the middle of the winter here, and we're going to be moving in the other direction. Winter items are going to start coming down in price. They already are actually. There's some interesting sale items over at Sportsman's Guide. You might want to check if you're interested in a pair of Mickey Mouse boots right now. Go to Sportsman's Guide, go to their clearance section and look to see what they have on the shelf right now. There are a number of interesting items. Also, in assault vests or tactical vests. Now, none of these are super fancy, but there is a Canyon, they're calling it a Canyon Surplus Tactical Vest. It's a typical lighter duty nylon product. But what's interesting is the camo pattern. The camo pattern looks to be the Cuban slash Portuguese paintbrush camouflage. Now, the Kenyans are using the French lizard, and we've also seen on their uniforms a lot of the tropical, the other tropical uniforms from the French. What's interesting is that if you have any of these other tiger-stripe variants or pink-brush variants, it's not a bad camouflage for certain environments. So you might want to go check it out. And again, this is for your 510 program. Are these the most sophisticated pieces of web gear? No, not at all. Bangers can't be choosers. I've got thousands and thousands and thousands of tactical rigs. TA-56 World War II cartridge belt systems, BAR belt systems, TA-90 equipment slash allus gear. you name it, Molly gear of every stinking kind you can imagine. And when you show up, depending upon your unit, what you might be attached to, if you have to re-equip or if we have to equip you, then I would select a particular family of equipment to match up with the rest of your unit. And as I pointed out, one of the things that I do is, it's like right now I got a bunch of woodland camel I just picked up. I got a pile of OD grain here right now that I just picked up in Cold War era uniforms. Okay, nice shape, all in excellent shape. There is somebody's private collection. They were part of an estate sale. Now I'm just sorting them out, but I'm not going to sort them out by what? By much. What? No, the OD green clothes go into an OD green barrel. When the barrel gets filled up, pants, shirts, t-shirts, Fuel jackets in OD green. I sealed the barrel up and it's marked OD green. And it's everything that anybody would need top to bottom from, you know, t-shirts, underpants. Everything is OD green. In the woodland camo, if it's, I don't care what pattern of woodland camo, it goes into the woodland camo barrels. When the barrel gets filled, it gets marked on the outside woodland. and I go get another barrel and I start filling that up. I put two 55 gallon plastic trash bags, big industrials inside, heavy gauge, and I start stacking it solid and top to bottom. Right now I got a bunch of the patrol hats, I got a bunch of booney hats, I got a bunch of field jackets, I was surprised, I didn't expect to see those, but they're all going into the Woodlands system. Now, I have a whole bunch of the Portuguese camo, why? Well, years ago when I worked as an Op-4 commander, then I built Op-4, second Op-4, third Op-4, and then also fourth and fifth Op-4, along with Op-4 training command. One of the uniforms that we standardized on, which was typical for the African and Central American theater, were the Portuguese paintbrush pattern, which by the way you also see in red dawn. That's the Cuban pattern. And the Cubans did use it quite extensively in the Central America, especially when they were in El Salvador. But in addition to that, anywhere in the African theater. So I have a lot of it because they had certain sources. There were a number of companies that imported or bought tonnage in the Portuguese uniforms. Now, these pieces of equipment that I'm talking about right now would complement because the web gear actually would match the battle dress. And so I might actually start tagging a few of these if I order something from Sportsman's Guide. I'll probably pick up some of these quote-unquote Kenyan rigs. simply because it squares away the equipment. Now otherwise what have I done with the Portuguese type units or the guys that were outfitted with that clothing? O.D. grain, Woodland Camo M 1956 Web Gear. It was the dominant, so most of it's already separated and packed up in 10 pack, 10 people kits with three or four sets of uniforms, field jackets that match, patrol hats, which are kind of hard to find, if not impossible. Now they're actually so collectible, I could sell them and pay for everything. But in addition to that, these Kenyan rigs would kind of round one of those out and look good. You know, it's pretty decor. It looks good. Looking good is a, you know, positive thing, people. You know, you want to be strapped. You want to be squared away. Now, being a parade dress unit never won any battles, but, you know, it impresses people. Just keep that in mind. This is why you need to square your technology away. But, anyway, that's over at Sportsman's Guide dot com, Sportsman's Guide dot com, Sportsman's Guide dot com. And, They do also have a few helmets, Kevlar helmets marked down. So if you're looking for a mish or if you're looking for a speed helmet, whatever. There's a couple of decent deals, don't know how long they're going to last. And there is, I believe, one helmet was under $100. It was a high cut mish. and it was $100, $99 for a helmet and it was in mixed sizes. So you might want to check that out. Don't know if they're still there when stuff drops below 100 for ballistic helmets, usually to get cleaned out pretty quick. So, and if they're less than that, even faster. So we expect that. Anyway, let's see. All right, next. Oh, before we go any farther, one more time. Guys, we're on 6.160 regular shortwave. Get an AM-FM shortwave radio. If you've got one, plug it in at 8 o'clock, listen in, and if you would, do me a favor, see if you can tune us in on 6.160 regular shortwave. Once you do, do me a favor and send me an email at liberty at provide.net. I don't need your address. I just need general information. If you're one part of the country or another, how do we sound? I need some feedback on this. I've already got a lot of people that have responded and want to say thank you. Our friends, especially over in Europe, who are apparently listening quite regularly now on shortwave, that's good. If you are, share with other people. Holland, England, Denmark, we got a lot of friends in Denmark. And of course, don't forget Slovakia. There's the Czechs and the Slovakians. And the Slovakians pick us up in a number of different ways and rebroadcast us, local radio. So I want to say thank you, I appreciate that. Probably a way to find out more about what's happening from another direction here in the United States. I hope we're helping you out. but 6.160 regular shortwave is WBCQ, the planet. And we don't want to do internet with that. We want to try the radio. The reason it's no middleman. We're going to have to shift when this kicks off and the communists make their move the rest of the way. And they're going to, this is not an image, it's just wet. Then we need no middleman communications in place in advance. And this is why you need to pick up an AM FM shortwave. Also, again, don't forget, yes, CB radio, you know, I'm going to harp on it. Why? Well, because CB radio doesn't have a middleman. Local broadcasting is especially going to be critical being able to talk because people are so addicted to the phone BS that they're going to go into catatonic brain fart and piss and moan and whine about how they got in a phone. So we've got to give them some Pablum or a Pacifier so that they've got something else to jump on and prattle on when the time comes. See how that works? And we have a solution. So let's get it plugged in. Now for us, we need it for common sense, regular communication in the area. Overlapping with that is FRS and don't forget again, Marine radio, older Marine radio. Actually, I want to emphasize that, older Marine radio in the CB box, not the hyper-digital microprocessor models. They're not going to be of any use down the road. If you get them for free, take them. But if you can, you want to be working towards the Marine in the standard squawk boxes. of the same size as a standard CB radio. Best choice and best solution, okay? And you can find them still out there. I'm looking for a brown box company right now that we used to deal with. I think they are still there. I'm also looking for some Antron antennas. A box, a case of them, 10, 12, but I don't know what the lot is, the case lot is now. So we'll find out and we'll pass the information on too as soon as I have a best choice. for that solution. And again, let's see. Okay, yes, the Antron is a single pole with a couple of secondary dipoles running off it, but you don't have to have the secondaries in place for the Antron to work exceptionally well. Most important is it's robust. The Antron that we have, the one Antron we have has been running since 1990 and is still operational, even though it went through a tornado. Just something that's kind of funny. It survived and was sitting in the pile of wreckage what was the chimney next to the house. So heads up, again, pretty robust and fiberglass, which I think is really fascinating. So we should be hearing the music. We are right at the top here. And you are listening to libertytreeradio.4mg.com, libertytreeradio.org. And again, if you would, please. Break out the radio and listen in on 6.160 regular shortwave WBCQ and find out if your equipment works. Test your technology. If it doesn't, you have to find a replacement or figure out what's going on. God bless our republic. Good night. Bring out the microwave. We're coming up right here. It will be back at 8 o'clock in the evening. Craig, you are listening live if you are listening on the 17th. of January 2024, this Wednesday, January 17, 2024. Open show today. I have some couple things I can talk about, but for the most part, I'm hoping to hear from a lot of you about, because a lot of you may know more about this than I do, and I haven't done a lot of research yet. Got a whole lot of, I think Mark probably mentioned it on his program, have a whole lot of ammo cans, and they are in great condition. They're set outside for six months and I wanted to look at other than WD-40, which is what I've been using, what can I spray these things, paint on these things that will stop them from rusting anymore if they're kept indoors. So maybe a lot of you have some experience on metal rusting. I did look up a whole, started looking up. I haven't looked up reviews of this stuff yet. We got products like Ospo, OspoG Metal Treatment. These are all I'm going to list here. Some of them that just came up when I did a really basic look. Bow Shield T9, rust and corrosion protectant. FDC rust converter. POR15 rust preventative coating. Evapul rust. There's a lot of products out there. So I'd like to hear from anybody who has any experience with this and what will possibly work for camel cans. Without eating up the paint, of course, I don't want to strip all the paint off. I just want to basically stop them from rusting anymore. A lot of these I've just picked up some more today, and they've got ice on them, and then kind of put them into a heated area to get them thrown out because this is damn cold still. The lights won't melt for a long time, it looks like. So anyway, I mean, also I want to mention that I'm going to talk about the emerald canons a little bit more, but I also want to mention that I'll be at a... A gun show this weekend, I was in Indianapolis last weekend, sold about a hundred and maybe a hundred thirty cans, ammo cans. This weekend I will be in a very small show called, I think they call it State Line Gun Show. State Line meaning the state line of Ohio and Michigan. A town called Montpelier, Ohio is where it's going to be. Very, very small show. It's only about a hundred tables from what I gather. Never did this show before it's very so I usually don't do small shows, but I decided to do do a small one and check it out So it's called Stateline Gun show Montpelier, Ohio right near the Michigan border. It's probably about a half an hour drive from Indiana, so it's north northwest Northwest, Ohio's extreme north extreme north then west part of the state Trying to think of the Michigan City would be near Probably nothing. It's we're out in the country really Not too far from Bryan, Ohio. It's kind of a larger city the nearest larger, Michigan City might be Well, I don't know Jackson But it's still quite a waste from that actually Anyway, that's that's what I'll be if you happen to be in that area watch. I got a little show Some ammo cans with me there as well. Yeah the This is the first time I've really purchased ammo cans. I really didn't intend to get into it really One of my main suppliers who give me MREs, not only Canadian but also US, my main MRE supplier happens to be a truck driver who goes into the military bases. He had a bunch of ammo cans to offer me, about 500 of them, 30 caliber. We'll talk about the sizes in a minute. Anyway, I started doing some research and I didn't really agree with the price that he was trying to... I don't need 500 ammo cans. I'd be selling them, obviously. So I want to get him at a low enough price where I can sell them at a profit. And the price that he was offering them to me wouldn't have gathered me much profit. And frankly, I'm thinking, okay, they're in good condition and all, but I'm going to sell them at the gun shows. I might only sell 10 to 12 cans a show. At the prices we were talking about here because a 30 caliber can right now the last gun show I went at well this 10 10 to 11 dollars for 30 caliber ammo can again. I'll talk about sizes a little bit and I gotta be able to mark them up a little bit because I mean I mean I gotta go get them or have them shipped Kind of expensive very bulky takes a blotter room in the truck You got to clean them up. So a little bit of labor involved there. Call them back and forth. If you don't sell them, you all put them back in the truck. They take up room. Yeah, you can put things in there, but they're not very convenient to put things in. You're not, it depends on what you're trying to, depends on what you're hauling and what you have to sell at the show. And plus you got to store them. So you didn't have a very good price on them. But anyway, I got looking around online and I found some other ammo cans for sale when I was comparing prices. And I thought I'd a bunch at a better price, but these were rusty these have been sitting outside for six months And he was selling a little by the palette My rusty and once I sprayed them with w40 and wiped them down the ones that I sold this past weekend in Indianapolis They people were accepting of them. They're really bad. So like they're rusting through you know, we ever Okay, yeah The photos that you sent me, because I've seen some of them at least, they didn't look like they were that bad on the outside. Where's the rest? Is it on the inside or outside of the can? Yeah, I did see a picture of them. I had a picture of them. And there's some service rust. You've got to imagine, if they're sitting outside for six months, they're going to get rained on or sold on. They're going to have some rust. Different type of rustoleum paints and stuff. I was calling in an idea of where to move them and I know this probably isn't what you're thinking but tool shows. You know everybody's aware of gun shows but there are tool shows that go around to the fairgrounds and whatnot just like gun shows. And a lot of ammo cans get moved at the tool shows. Places like Harbor Freight, Stem, ammo cans. Let's see, how Dexter Michigan where I grew up, the lumber yard had to deal with a guy who brought him ammo cans and he turned around and sold them in bulk. Sold them in the store right there. So you might talk to people. You might find somebody you can make a deal with first and fourth base just to sell them. Yeah, a lot of a lot of a lot of mechanics like using the ammo cans especially the bigger ones like you got For toolboxes they make great toolboxes Yeah, let me ask you a question cuz I had no idea that Harbor Freight actually sells the metal the military ammo cans Yeah, they sell metal and their own plastic stuff, but the metal cans are a little rarer to come by when you're there. But yeah, Harbor Freight does sell ammo cans in the back by their gun boxes and stuff they have on the back wall usually. They sell them here, they do. I don't know what they do in Michigan. And frankly the trend for new stuff seems to be these plastic boxes are calling ammo cans. They're green. They're kind of kind of OD, but they're these are this seems to be the trend is going in. Well, you got to be careful. You got to be careful with the plastic ones, though. A lot of the plastic stuff. There's like a cheap knockoff of what would typically be the thicker plastic that you would have for an ammo can. Cracks easy. Can't hold the weight. Now that's been one of the problems that we've had with the plastic ammo cans, especially to get the cheaper ones that are made from recycled plastic. It looks like an ammo can. It's got the same dimensions as an ammo can, but it can't hold the weight of the ammo. Yeah, and probably when you pick it up, if it's got a lot of weight, it probably loses its seal too until you put it back down. So they're typically airtight watertight. But the plastic ones, yeah. You can usually tell it's like the feel of the plastic, the recycled plastic, the ones that are made out of the recycled plastic, they just feel, they feel light, they feel thin, you know? Even though it looks like it's the same thickness and everything else, if you've ever picked one of the ones up that are just crap, you can tell by the weight and the feel of it. And I know that's something dad's talked about before with dealing with metal and stuff, that you can, when you've worked with it enough, you can tell the difference. It's night and day with these plastic ammo cans between the ones that are actually treated properly and the ones that are just, you know, made to look like ammo cans themselves. The weight of them is different, the feel of the plastic is different. Some of them are just junk. They're just junk. We've never thought of tool shows. I've never seen a tool show. I'm sure they exist. I just never did one. And I also... Right there in Michigan, the Celine Fairgrounds has a tool show that comes through. I also know that the fairgrounds up there by just south of Lansing, where they have their show in the middle of the state, has a tool show that comes through. You can contact the fairgrounds and find out when a tool show is scheduled to come through and put on Mr. Table's costs. And generally the ones that are not great quality, that are maybe too rusty or banged up or something, flea markets is a place where you can generally find ammo cans. So probably with me buying them, I'm not even going to bother putting them on the website. They just be too expensive to ship. I mean a 30, what they call a 30 caliber can is like one of the smallest, like the smallest size that the military uses. That's typically about the size of, let's say, a medium flat rate box from the U.S. Postal Service. And then it costs you, like, I think it's like $15 or $16 to ship. So it doesn't make any sense to try to ship them, at least that way, because the can is worth less than that. So that's if they'll even ship them. We've had problems with shipping ammo cans before. Because some of the post offices are anal retentive when it comes to their they won't ship anything to do with the firearm. No, I know you're from lobby. You put it in the box and they don't know what's in it. But yeah, there's and I got wondering if you could actually for the bigger ones, you could actually just sort of label right on the can and ship it that way. Well, well packaged has got handles and everything. I don't know. You have to try it. I know you can ship some things like that without a box like Thras's tires. They ship tires without boxes and other really long things. You can ship things that are odd, but yeah, I'd have to check on that. But yeah, you might be right. The way things are going today, oh, I'm okay. I do. Danger. We can't ship that. It might be hazardous. It might have gunpowder residue inside the can. Well, yeah, if anybody is not familiar with the Postal Service having that in all we can have attitude, at least they get in Michigan. You go into most post offices in Michigan and on the bulletin board that they have in there, they'll have a list of items that you cannot ship and anything having to do with fire and fire and paraphernalia is on the list of stuff you can't ship. Well, this is a... I know that's there in the state of Michigan, sir. Yeah. Yeah, well, I haven't tried and I don't think I'm going to try, because again, frankly, it would cost me... it'd cost me more to ship the can than a can's worth. So it doesn't really make sense to ship a new one. At least that's my opinion at this point. Let me go through the sizes of what I'm looking at here. Give you an idea. Now, probably most people listening to my voice right now probably have more than a few ammo cans in your house somewhere already or your garage. So a lot of you know exactly what I'm talking about, but briefly for those who don't know what we're talking about, we're talking ammunition cans. They're military surplus. They're usually all metal. They have OD green paint scheme. They usually have stenciled on letters showing what caliber is in the can. They have a hinged lid that usually opens from one side. So the smaller cans, little, and this is a, familiar noise to all of you who have ever had an ammo can. When you open it up, it's a common sound that most of you already know about. They stack, they're strong enough to stand on, and you probably put four of them underneath the tires of a car, and you probably hold a car up and not get crushed. So they're strong, they've got a rubber gasket in the lid, the lid pops off, if you open it up and pull it to the side, it actually comes off. So you can actually take the lids off of I guess all of these actually. They come off in different ways depending on the caliber of can. What I'm referring to as a 30 caliber can is meant for 200 rounds of 7.62 millimeter NATO rounds. So that's generally referred to as a 30 caliber can. That's really the smallest can that you'll see that's made by the military, that's supplied to the military for ammunition. The next size up, which is also a very popular size, is what they're generally referring to as a 50 caliber can. And a 50 caliber can is probably maybe 25% more spacious, roughly. I'm just making a guess here by looking at them. A little bit wider, about the same height and about the same depth, length. But they're meant to hold 100 rounds of 50 BMG linked. That's what the 50 caliber can and and also sometimes you'll see them label for other things other types of ammunition or even sometimes explosives because I have some that have labels for explosives and they might find a chord for Demolition that I don't know what else all is in them sometimes, but they have sometimes different labels on them So those two are the most popular size which generally referred to the 30 caliber and the 50 caliber both of those are easy enough to carry even loaded with ammunition and get kind of heavy but Especially if you got a 50 caliber all the way full it gets kind of heavy Now the next size up that I have and it's generally well, okay. Well, let me let me talk about the 50 variants I don't have any of the 50 variants in front of me, but there's what they call a fat 50 Which is the same dimensions as the 50 caliber except is wider It's maybe an inch and a half wider called the fat 50. Then you've got, I'm not sure what the ammo, that's what they're referred to as. I don't really know what type of ammo I don't have a can here to read what's on the side of the can. Then you have what they call, what they refer, generally referred to as a tall 50, which has the same dimensions as a 50 caliber, as a footprint, but it's taller. It's about an inch and three quarters or two inches taller. And I have some of those for my own personal use because frankly they're the same height as the 40 millimeter and that makes it very handy for using in the van where you stack things on top of them in different sized cans for different plates of things. So the fat, I'm sorry the tall 50 is about the same height as the next can which I'm going to describe which is the 40 millimeter. The 40 millimeter can contained 32 cartridges of 40 millimeter and I don't even know what that round looks like I'd have to look it up frankly I'm not big on the I mean when you start to get up anything bigger than what goes in a rifle I don't really know the caliber of flesh so I don't know but it holds 32 cartridges of 40 mill 40 millimeter rounds it's about two inches taller than the 50 caliber the 50 caliber and 30 caliber about the same height but you can't fit us you can't fit me 30 caliber into a 50 caliber box. However, I just found this out today before I went on air. I just tried it for the hell of it. You won't be able to close the lid. If you try to put a 30 caliber inside of a 50 caliber ammo can, it will not fit. However, if you take the lid off of the 30 caliber, Then you can just barely fit the 30 caliber inside the 50 caliber and close the lid. And you can also, there's enough room on the side because a 50 caliber is about an inch wider, inch and a half wider maybe than the 30 caliber. You can fit the 30 caliber can and its lid with the lid removed inside a 50 caliber can. That's going to be important for me when I go to haul them to shows and I don't have much room. But anyway, you won't need to know that because you're going to put other stuff in yours. You're not going to nest them together like Russian nesting eggs. You're going to use them for other things. And you cannot fit a 50 caliber inside of a 40 millimeter can. It's almost the same width. So it won't fit in width wise. However, if you take the lid off, then you can't fit in it. Actually, I don't think I tried that actually. I guess take that back, I'm not positive about that. After that's that one I need to investigate further. So maybe I can fit three cans inside of a, two cans inside of a 30, a 40 millimeter. I don't know yet if I take the lid off the 50, but then we'll have any place to put the 50 lids. So no, I wouldn't be able to fit in there with the lid even if it fit in with the lid off the can. Because the lid is too wide for the can. And in fact, I think I can try it right now, actually. The 40 millimeter can is about four times the size of a 30 millimeter cam spacious wise and maybe three times the size of a 50 caliber cam and the lid here is not here. There's clasps on both sides which I just removed. This lid pops straight off. It also has a gasket spotter tight while air tight supposed to be as long as the gas is intact. And I can see right now that a 50 caliber cam will not fit in a 40 millimeter even with lid off. They're almost the exact same width. So you cannot fit a 50 caliber and a 40 millimeter here. Okay. Again, you could care less. I'm just learning for myself as I go here. But, so I've got about, I saw about 120, 130 30 millimeter cans at Indianapolis last weekend my first weekend a good showing there, but I also had them cheap really really cheap you see what happened was There was a big camel can dealer there, and he was offering the 30 caliber can for seven dollars That's the lowest price. I've seen on them at least the few shows that I've been checking them out now and paying attention And his cans were better than mine his head virtually no rust so they were They were pretty much what they call as grade one. They grade them generally. A lot of these dealers just go online and start looking at these people's websites. They have able chance to sale. And they start to have grade one, grade two, and grade three. Grade one being the best. They call grade three kind of good. Grade two better, and then grade one best. And mine are between one and two. Some of them actually, I'm sorry, mine are actually between two and three. Based on some of the descriptions I've seen online of various camo can dealers I would have to describe most of minus two some of them are at three None one of mine was damaged that I buy just sold it as half price and we're good to go the what I offered them for Because of the other dealer there that had them at seven dollars each I actually offered them for six dollars to a customer That's super cheap. That's the cheapest price of the show. And I talked to the guy about it before I offered that because they would offer him a duck buck less. Yeah, no problem, because yours are rusty. Yeah, okay. So if you want a better can, but you want to pay a dollar more, you go to the other guy. So we, we could kind of cooperate there. And I sold for $6 each or two for 11. I don't think I will normally be offering at that price. It kind of depends because I've made very, very little little money on those. But it's virtually nothing because actually dealers are buying from me at that price. So that's kind of like wholesale price. So but I'll be offering with this show for $8 each. I'll be able to make a little bit of money off of them. The show I got coming up. Maybe two for $15. I'm not sure yet. The 50 caliber and then and then the 50 caliber cans I've seen them. Okay, let me go back up to the 30 cal. We're talking about 30 caliber. We finished 30 caliber Generally, I see them for around 10 bucks at the show all the shows that I've seen now I've seen them generally for around top 10 bucks for the grade one. So the best looking ones then So I'll be offering mine for eight at the shows. It's kind of what I've decided to offer them for Then the 50 caliber cans I've been I've went by line looking also to see what people dealers were offering for here's here's a dealer. Let's see here this dealer and I have no affiliation with any of these dealers here This dealer is offering a 50-caliber can for $17 1695 at the shows. I generally saw them between 12 and $15 generally This ammo can dealer I'm looking at is the web page for, I guess I can tell you what it is when I look at it. Again, I have no affiliation with this company. ArmySurplusWorld.com. And I'm looking at most everything they have is sold out. Almost all their cans on this page, probably 90% of them are sold out. But he was offering them for 17 bucks. 30 caliber cans, looks like they do have those in stock. You have a pack of two for $19.99, so $10 each, just like the shows generally. And let's see here, you buy one for $11.99 or $12 basically at this particular site. There's other sites out there. And again, out of the shipping, let's offer free shipping, and I know how you would be able to offer free shipping on these. It's going to be, it wouldn't seem like it'd be worth it. Here's a fat 50 ammo can on another website for 35 bucks fat 50 And I see if they have some 30 can here's a here's a normal 50 Wait, what is this? Oh, no, that's just a hardware locking kit. Just scroll down here Here they have a 30 caliber can for $18.50 for grade one. So I'm mine mine's gonna be 10 bucks less than that for grade for grade two Anyway, that particular dealer if you want to get a these you're welcome to I do get have no affiliation with these people amokanman.com. Now the 30, the 40 millimeter can, that's the bigger one, the bigger one that I have. There's a much bigger sizes too, but don't get me wrong. There's ones for mortars and all sorts of things. But the 40 millimeter can that I offer, again, about four times the capacity of a 30 millimeter can, maybe three times the capacity of a 50 caliber can. You see though sometimes I've seen people mount them to their tractors as tool boxes, as I had mentioned tool shows. I've seen people drill holes in the bottom and bolt them to a fender or a trailer or a detractor or a backhoe or something. And there are ways you can lock it. You can buy these little lock kits. You can put a little lock on it, but it wouldn't be very secure unless you did something further to them. They're really only meant for wire ties as a lock to keep them sealed. They're meant for padlocks. But you these some of these companies that I just mentioned solve padlock kits where you can put a Put a kid on there where you can put a padlock on so But if you have something you don't need lock if you could put it like trucker chains in there Things that are really heavy that take a beat and it would take a beating And you don't want to get rusted you can spray a little WD-40 in there or something and put your trucker chain in there Well, anyway, lots of uses for them. A lot of people, again, most people listen to my voice, have them, and have a few of them or more. Anyway, I had some even before I bought a single pallet. Right now, I'm calculating about 350, 30 caliber cans, and that's about almost two pallets. One particular or skid one particular skid has 216 cans on it of 30 caliber a I don't have it. I only have I have very limited number of 70 of 50 calibers I only have about 75 of the 50 calibers and those are the two most popular ones the 30 caliber and the 50 caliber I don't have very many of the 50 calibers and mine aren't very good shape. I'll probably be selling them for 10 bucks Don't really know yet kind of have to feel out what's going on and show when I get there and 30-count of the 40 millimeter cans, the larger ones, I have probably three pallets of those. There's probably more than three pallets. They come 42 to a pallet. They have these special pallets for these things, actually, and then they have a special lid that goes on them. Any of these pallets, you get them too tall, anything more than one layer, actually. They tend to want to tip over, even though they kind of interlock. With each other the 30 caliber and the 50 caliber both have a little indent in the bottom of the can so that you can stack them So the handle of one nest in the bottom of the other so they can stack and they're pretty stable but once you get about Two or three high if you don't have them shrink wrapped or some pallet eyes in some way to keep their banded with steel bands They're gonna they're gonna be flopping all over and falling all over the place and I think they came the 30 caliber cans came I think six high So they steel band them to keep them together in the case of the 40 millimeter cans they were only four high and They had a special lid that goes on the top a special base on the pallet Where they lock in they can't slide around and then a special lid that goes on the top Pretty heavy to powder got these are steel pallets the pallet probably weighs well over a hundred pounds and the And then there is a ring that goes on it that weighs about another 30 pounds. And then a lid goes on top of that, probably another 50 pounds. So heavy duty stuff, military. And I don't know if I'll do these pallets after I saw all the cans. And maybe have some other uses. So what I'd like people to call in, if you know, if anybody might know, because again, people out listening to my voice writing about it might know more about these cans than I do. What can I spray them with? I don't want to I don't want to sandblast them and paint them and just way too much labor. I'm going to basically sell them as is but I want to be able to stop any rust that's on there now from growing and not worry about cleaning them up yet. Just spray them and let them soak or whatever depending on the type of coating or whatever I'm going to put on them. I don't want to just cover them up with OD green paint. Not only would it kind of show that it's been covered up because these cans depending on how much Fainting they have from the Sun It would show that you've painted them and I'd rather not I'd rather not mess with them that way Too much work and have to clean them off and everything anyway, so cuz yeah, I can sandblasted I could paint him I can even powder coat them I could make one a nice Yellow color or something if I wanted to Powder coat it, but I don't really want to have to mess with them. They're not worth it I mean you were really talking 10 to 20 bucks for what the ammo can here and a curb in my case ain't 8 to 15 or so I'm probably gonna be selling the the 40 millimeter cans for somewhere between 15 and 18 I'm guessing the 40 millimeter cans generally sell at the shows for I've seen them as high as 25 at the shows But typically they seem like they're there and they have them at about 20 Although the the big dealer at Indy Adam for 15 was the lowest price I've seen And his were in in the grade one shape, let me look at these websites that have them Here's one. Yeah, this website, they have them for $14.99, so $15 bucks. Sold out though. And that's the Army Flair Surplus World. Comparing again another sweat site. Let's see if this site has them individually. There's a 30 millimeter can, which is basically the same, it's much taller. Here's a 40 millimeter can. This company has them for grade one for $35 bucks. That's the Ammo Can Man. 35 bucks, I'll be selling probably for probably around 16 18 don't really know yet, but man the rest of those Generally only a little bit of rust around the corners where they interlock they sort of interlock they have these little Tabs you can stack these things up. They're pretty stable when sack was when you get too tall as when you get into a problem And they do interlock they got a little little bumpers that keep it from keeping the top They can't above it from sliding off very easily unless you bump it real hard or purposely knock them over. So what type of rust inhibitor? Anybody have any experience? So far, I've heard some ammo can people tell me, oh yeah, you got to clean them, spray them with WD-40, and then wipe them down. So okay, that's what I did with my first batch that I took to the show. I just sprayed, mostly just the lid, sprayed the lid with WD-40, the hinge and the clasp, and then wiped them down. It's kind of a mess. It changes the sheen. It's no longer Like a flat OD green it's more of a eggshell OD green because now there's got a slight little bit of oil of WD-40 oil on it. I'm pretty confident that the oil isn't gonna... I didn't see a lot of paint coming off or anything like that when I was wiping them down. So I'm confident the oil is not going to damage anything, but maybe there's something better. And again, I went online and looked. I haven't seen any reviews of any of these yet. I'm going to name the brand names and I don't have any affiliation with any of these. But maybe some of you have some experience with this. You know what I'm wanting to do with them now. Ospo Metal Treatment or Ospo G or Ospog. That's a brand name. Call it metal treatment. Bow Shield T-9, rust and corrosion protection inhibitor. And there's FDC, a rust converter. Ultra high effective professional grade blah blah blah. And there's POR-15 rust preventative coating, stop rust and corrosion. And I see a VAPO rust, ERO-12. And the VAPO rust I have used before. I can tell you using it, when I use it I bought like, it comes in quarts or gallons or whatever. And basically you soak it. If you have a tool that's like really rusty, you pour it in some type of a... container, plastic or metal that you can submerge the tool in. In this stuff you pour it up to an inch deep. Let's say you're putting a crescent wrench in there and you have a little tray, kind of like a cookie sheet maybe but smaller. Or hey, bottom of an ammo can maybe, right? Put a crescent wrench in there and put about half inch to three-quarter inch of apple rust in there. Put the crescent wrench in there, let it soak. I don't remember how long to let it soak. I think you can let it soak overnight if you want. And it does a pretty good job of Removing the rust. You can reuse the stuff a little bit. Depending on how rusty you put in there before, you can keep putting more tools in there. Eventually it becomes all messed up and you have to throw it out and get more. And the stuff is supposedly safe, really, really safe, non-toxic. But it will rust again. I know one of the things that always had trouble rusting is these squares, carpenter squares. You know, they're 24 inches on one leg and 16 inches on another leg. Unless they're aluminum, they're metal, they tend to be always rusting on you. And so I use it on there. And it does clean it up, but then it just starts rusting again. So it doesn't prevent it from rusting further after you've cleaned it and wiped it down. So what I'm kind of looking for is something that you can spray on and kind of maybe a little sticky it stays on and keeps it from rusting further. And let the customer who buys the thing worry about... If I need to wipe it down, that's fine. It is gummy or something. But anything more than just wiping it down, I don't really want to mess with it. I just want to be able to spray it on. But right now I want to spray it on and put it back on the pallet until I'm ready to sell them. If I have to wipe it down later, so be it. But I'd rather, I want to stop the rust that's there from spreading if there is such a chemical I can put on it. It would be nice, something that wouldn't be highly toxic or something very explosive. And that's something I'm a little worried about with the WD-40. Because I put them in a garage that was heated. And that's a gas heater hanging on the ceiling. And I can smell the WD-40 in the room, I think. I know WD-40 you could actually use as a starting fluid. If you ever hear you can actually use it to start up an engine if you don't have starting fluid you can actually use it in lieu of it's not quite as good but you can actually use it for starting fluid that's for small engines so I kind of worried I kind of air tried to air out the garage a little bit before I turned on the furnace because I think what could have an explosion in there because ammo cans so I'd be nice it was something that was like that explosive either because if you're spraying down several pallets of this stuff and you got them stored in a closed space you're gonna be able to smell the stuff and Might be an ignition problems. So anybody have any, anybody want to call and have any, or another brand that you've used that you think would be suitable for this kind of thing? I'll have to do a lot more research myself to find out what to use and maybe try a couple things. Because I may be getting more of them and I should be getting them as quick as I can because he's got them stored outside. And then got another layer of snow on them. Snow and ice. So we really As soon as I can get them stored inside, the better. If I'm going to buy them, I just need to get them quick before they get damaged anymore. I found some other dealers I could buy better ones too. But right now, I'm thinking about these, the ones that are grade two and three. Ones that are less attractive. But ammo cans aren't really meant to be attractive, meant to be functional. And a little bit of rust doesn't at all hamper the functionality of it. Not a bit. So I'm not to worry about it and we'll see what the customer thinks at the price I'm offering it at. So nobody nobody has any I told you my a little bit of experience with a Vapo rust. I don't think a Vapo rust would be a good thing. I had a try a little bit I do have some I could just try a couple cans and set them aside and see what they look like after after a month of sitting around the pallet if the rust is gone or if I need to wipe them down or if it's if it's Try it all up first. Dummy or if I gotta want something that's gonna be sticky, it's gonna be hard to remove. Want something fairly easy to wipe off. Okay, well, nobody wants to call in to give me your feedback on any of these rust inhibitors that you may have used. I also, I could talk here now in the last 15 minutes I got. Somebody else said, of course, we got the election. It's gonna be big news this next year. This year, this could be already looking like Trump for sure if they can keep him out of jail, if they don't put him in jail or prison. That looks like Trump is already gonna be the shoe in. But I'm making no bets on this because frankly, these Democrats are working really hard. They've got 91 charges against him that they're trying to convict him on to try to put him in jail so that maybe they think he's not gonna be able to run from jail, but I think he can. And it's gonna be interesting. That'll be a first in American history for sure. Have a candidate running from jail. Well, maybe that won't be a first, I should say, cuz that might not be true. A candidate that would win, running from jail, would likely win because the Democrats got nothing as far as I can see at this point. Who knows, they might pull something out of their hat, but Biden ain't gonna cut it. They're gonna have to throw Biden under the bus. This is just my opinion. But I think Biden's going to have to be thrown under the bus. Yeah, he's not too much older than Trump, but Trump's still got some wits about him and our decomposer in chief does it. It's kind of obvious. So I don't think, I think they're going to have to get rid of him. I think they'll make an announcement at some point that he just decided not to run because he's going to retire with his grandkids or whatever. He'll come up with an excuse that, no, it's not because of my senility. No, it's not bad. I'm not senile. No, it'll be some other reason but I think that's what they're gonna eventually he's gonna have to be He's got to announce that he's decided not to run but who's gonna run? Certainly, we hope not the vice president That would be a disaster as well Cackling camera. No God, I'll be table. I'm sure the Democrats the Democratic Party doesn't want her running either. That's a certain loss against Trump I would say But who knows maybe I'm wrong again, this is just my opinion here. I don't have Nobody has any evidence of any of the stuff that I'm talking about right now. I'm just about my opinion Gavin Newsom, is he gonna run so far? They haven't really given any clear indication that he might be a candidate But the guy Democrats gotta find somebody There's another name I heard that the Democrats are trying to Kind of hide from you What was his name? Well, maybe somebody can tell me there's a Democrat You don't hear the name of the press, but from what I heard about him might be a kind of a good choice, but boy, I can't remember his name now. That's how little Dave actually mentioned the guy. And I'm not talking about RFK Jr., because RFK Jr. has decided to run because the Democrats already viewed him as being not their man. He's decided to run independently. RFK is kind of a wild card in here. He's got a pretty good message when you listen to a lot of what he talks about. It's a pretty good message. I don't know if I certainly don't agree with everything he says and I don't agree with anything Trump says either. I can't say Trump's the best candidate, but he's the most likely to win at this point from what I can see. If RFK was on the RFK Junior, was on the Democratic ticket as the candidate, well, he might have a pretty interesting race there. But it doesn't look like he's going to be the one. Yeah, I'm a Newsom guy. He's got California going running against him. I mean, frankly, not the state of California itself, the voters. I'm talking about the state of California, the physical entity called the state of California. We really want the United States of America to become like the state of California. I certainly don't. I don't think anybody in the other 50 states want it either. I don't know. California's already pretty much destroyed itself. So is that the promise? Is that the Newsome promise to turn all the states like California? That is going to be a disaster. Again, my opinion. My opinion doesn't count for nothing. Except it's my show. You can go out and read your own thing if you want. Who do you think is going to run it on the Democratic ticket? I'm unlikely to do this. Yeah, hello. There are two Democrats that are directly running against Biden. But like you said, the press isn't covering them. They're not giving them anything. One of them is Dean Phillips. Yeah. And then the other one is Marie-Marie Annie Williamson. Yeah, Marie Annie Williamson. Don't know. Okay, I have, Dean Phillips is what I was thinking of, and I've heard some good things about him, but I haven't really not investigated his platform, so I don't know. If anything would be better than Biden at this point, I would think, even though Biden's the incumbent, I don't think he stands a chance against Trump. Now, if he was running against the other ones that would rub the Republicans, if Trump was knocked out of the race for some reason, the two that are left right now, Biden maybe could win against one of them. I don't know. Well, there's three left that haven't bowed out yet. Swami has put his backing behind Trump. Haley is the one that the Democrats are clearly backing. They have Democrats, borders coming out and backing her openly. You've got DeSantis from Florida, and then this other one, Binkley, I don't know where he's from. Well, I've heard that name. Ryan Dinkley. Yeah, Ryan Dinkley. Yeah, well, he's like, he was worse than Swami. Was he in the debate? A whole lot of the race. I don't know if he was in the debate. Okay. Yeah, Dean Phillips is the one that I could, I'm ignorant about his, what he stands for. So I have no clue. But I think at this point, just about anything could be better than Biden. So the Democrats got a tough Tough roll here. They're going to have to. It seems like no matter what they do to Trump, it seems to actually increases popularity in the polls. So they put him in jail or prison. I think he might be a shoe-in for president. That sounds really strange, but that's where we're looking at here. Now, I look like... Robert S. Kennedy, Jr. is the one... is running, and he's running as I am a Kennedy Democrat, but they have him listed as an independent. Yeah, he's not in the Democratic ticket. Well, they could. I mean, if they changed their mind, they could bring RFK in, but it doesn't look like they want him. He talks too much sense actually to be a Democrat So and here's here's the thing. Okay, if Trump goes to prison he could Presumably pardon himself. Correct? Well, that's for the federal charges any federal charges. However He's facing a lot of state charges. I think in New York and Georgia maybe other states. I don't know As far as the Georgia If he actually gets convicted and goes to jail or prison in Georgia, the governor of Georgia could pardon him. The governor of Georgia is Brian Kemp, and he's a Republican. So it's very possible if he gets convicted for any of this stuff either on the federal level, he can pardon himself if he gets elected, or if he gets in a Georgia prison. That Brian kept the pardon him being a Republican if possible or likely or whatever. I won't who knows? Not all Republicans love Trump, but more than likely You can be looking at a pardon from the governor of Georgia if he goes to Georgia New York's all different case though, and I don't know what kind of the charges he's facing in New York I think those are more just financial things right dealing with his properties I don't know that he would be involved in a jail time even if he was convicted of any of these New York charges. I don't know all of these charges. He's got 91 charges from what I read against him in various states. And I don't know all the states, but New York and Georgia are the only ones that I'm aware of for sure. And one of them is a Republican governor. No guarantees there, of course, that the governor would pardon him. But it's very likely so this will be this will be guaranteed to be the most interesting rates in my lifetime Unless they get rid of Trump and Biden and it's just something some to totally new people that we don't have any idea who they're a lot of times Whoever they put in the president frankly sometimes I don't okay. Who's this guy? I've never heard of this guy Obama. I never really heard of him before they oh here We go here's here's a guy named Obama. Let's put him on the okay. Who's this Obama guy? I don't know okay? He was from Illinois any But frankly, a lot of times they bring in these new people and I don't even know who we are. And so they may do the same thing here. They might bring in two totally new people, both on the Republican ticket and the Democratic ticket. And then it'll just be the whole hum, same thing candidates we've always had. And why people are looking at the possibility of a Trump versus Biden race, that's like, okay, we're repeating history here. Except this time it's a lot more obvious to people that Biden's got a problem, but also Trump has a whole lot of things charges going on him and they purposely have tried to get rid of him. I guess the next part of the getting rid of thing would be probably some sort of assassination. If that was in the cards for these people, if they wanted to go that far, that would be your next problem that we'd be facing. We certainly don't want that happen to Biden right now because then we get Harris and that's certainly hope that never happens for him This until his term is up. I had to laugh when I heard some I can't remember what rally it was and They mentioned what happened something happened at some rally somewhere When the crowd started chanting for more years for more years Did you actually believe there's people that think that we should be giving Biden four more years? Apparently there are And it was in relation to something that Trump's sadder did or something that they're yelling for more years for Biden Never thought I could never thought that would be able to hear that Biden has not really been campaigning He hasn't he I think he's announced that he won't be debating Didn't I hear that correctly? I haven't heard the latest on that If Biden is the candidate, there will be no debates. That'll be a first too, at least since Kennedy, Kennedy and Nixon. I think that was the first debate, televised debate, I should say. That'll be strange if there's no debate. If it's Trump and Biden, this time there's no debate, because Biden wouldn't be able to debate. He can't debate himself out of a shoebox at this point. So that'll be interesting to see if we're gonna have a debate. If Trump can hold his own in a debate, we already know that. And probably any of the other candidates except Biden or Harris wouldn't be able to stand a debate with Trump. That would be a disaster for the Democratic Party as well. Because traditionally, the VP would be the one that is the next in line to be on the party ticket. Doesn't have to be that way, but that's traditionally what it is. And think about it, folks, whoever Trump is, Trump is the candidate. Whoever he picks as his VP this time. It almost certainly will be Mike Pence. Whoever the VP is this time for Trump will almost certainly be the Democratic nominee for the next Republican ticket in 2028. So watch carefully who they put in there. Ramaswami, is that how you say his name? He basically looked to me like he was running for Vice President all along for Trump. It's kind of what it looked like. But I guess there's some sort of falling out that happened here real recently at a rally that Trump didn't like what he said. He mentioned it. So who knows? Ramaswami, if that's what I'm saying his name right, the businessman. He has been, in my view, based on the things I've heard him say and do, he has been running for VP all along, not for president. And would he pick a woman for the ticket? That would be interesting. Who would he pick? Would he pick RFK? Probably not, but who knows? Remember, whoever he picks will be our next Republican nominee. More almost certainly Historically certainly It'll be our next Republican nominee for president United States in 2028 That's likely that's not a for certain But again the rules to change when you got somebody like Harris as VP because I don't think that I don't think the Dems are gonna want to pick Harris as the Democratic nominee for president the United States for 2024 I don't see that happening if the Democrats really want to lose badly then yeah, go ahead and do that be my guess But they're not gonna win with that. I think anybody can see that they're gonna have to throw both of them under the bus Okay, now I'm just in my opinion, but one man, I did by the way. Properly predicted for the 16 rates, even though people didn't believe it in prime, I predicted that Pump was going to be the winner even before he was the official candidate for presidency. Before Hillary and Pump were the candidates, the official candidates, I predicted that Pump will be the winner. 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And again, We're going to war in 2024 and the more that the bad guys keep tagging and piling up, you know, tidbits here that we can catch, we got a really good idea. We got a pretty good idea about what they're, you know, planning. So there's nothing that we're gonna get caught flat footed on. The big thing is to be prepared for when things kick off. And just a heads up that with the course of being weapons Wednesday, Palmetto State Armory, somebody was asking me, what would your First choice B for AKs if you were looking at the AK rifles right now that are out there. Well, Palmetto makes an all-American AK. I know that there's other companies and several Russian. There's a whole class of individuals out there that have some fantastic AKs. They're Wunderbar, okay? But once again, it's getting onto the table with something that matches up with the rest of the unit. Palmetto is offering a pretty good price. on a standard AKM slash AK47 variant. For a little while, the 545s were out there in force. And again, I'll remind you, the reason that happened was because of the vast amount of type 7 ammunition that was available. In fact, there were two sources. One was in Chicago, and the guy had building upon building upon building upon building filled with 545 ammo. Some of you listening are smiling because you bought pallets from that guy for pennies around. Well, again, this is a roller coaster with ammunition, which is why you want a diversified inventory of guns. You don't want one gun. You need a number of different weapons or, again, and I would point out that a lot of units here in Michigan use the AK, although here's what's interesting. We actually have a lot of AKs. in standard 556 NATO slash the well the standard arm for half the planet in terms of chambering. So those weapons the only issue is that they're proprietary for the magazines and have always been a little pricier across the board. But back when the Chinese brought the first 223 slash 556 guns in they were only $125 apiece. And magazines were $4 a piece and so if you were smart you bought as I told everybody to do this and buy a pile of the mags. Now it's about the time that they did that when they start bringing the 556 in that they cut the Chinese off. I don't think they had a problem under the basic CIA spook and cooke policy that if you have an alien caliber to whatever your country's using that if the government chooses to attack the population, those guns would dry up. In other words, at a given point, their munitions would be less and less available to the point where they might actually be put on the shelf for lack of ammunition to serve. Now, that didn't work out that way because many overlapping solutions, and by the way, Palmetto State Armory is one of them right now, Palmetto is now cranking out 7.62x39. Advantage, well, we have cases and cases of SKS stashed all over the place. The SKS is going to come out of the woodwork in monster numbers. It's never be here. It's hard to find them out there for sale. Nobody's coming off them. They like them. The platform works well. You don't need to change them up, although a lot of people did add 30 round mags or drums or whatever. But in its standard configuration, you can't lose the magazine. The bayonet's fixed to it. And the rifle's got a 20 inch barrel, so it's got pretty good performance coming out of the muzzle. So that's one of the guns that definitely you need to know a little bit about in the upcoming war because you will see a lot of these. whether or not they're gonna be used for frontline personnel or security operations or as auxiliaries to put guns in reserves say in the defensive grid, that will vary. That depends on the needs of the operational units, whatever battlefield, Michigan, Illinois, Texas, Arkansas, taking pick, whatever, wherever they are. But a lot of units do use the AKN-760 by 39 and have sufficient local tactical reserves so that they can stay functional for a very, very, very long time. I would point out, as we were discussing earlier this last week, you might recall I was talking about reloading steel cases. Well, guys, we've had three waves of that. We actually have that science down. I would ask you that any time you shoot anything, save the brass, save the shell. I don't care what it is. If you're serious about getting prepared for what's coming, we're gonna need every round we can get our hands on. As long as we have the basic component, we can build everything to rebuild that case. We can make it work. So I need your help with that with regard to that. And if you're firing steel case, some 60 by 39, pick it all up, put it into milk, dry out some milk chugs or dry out. I like the big three gallon kitty litter buckets. They're not buckets, they're actually just big flasks. They have a larger mouth, they're perfect for stuffing brass in. And I keep the 762x39, the 545, 762x54R, 223, blah, blah, blah, all separate that way. If I'm not processing it, it just goes automatically into those containers. I can process it later, but first I need to have it in hand, okay? So, Palmetto is number one, giving us an excellent solution that very quickly here is going to be available. That's the 760 by 39 ammunition that we're interested in. And they do produce a series of AKs. Now, of course, it depends on what you're thinking about doing with a weapon. Folding stocks are interesting, but folding stocks are just not as stable, okay? I don't care what it is, it's just always been a problem. You know, the carbines with the folding stock were cool. M1 carbines, there's three or four variants in how that was done. But none of them are as stable as, say, the standard wooden stock or the standard, you know, issue stock for the original model. Doesn't mean that we don't have them out there. I think I've got as many folding stock carbines as I do regular carbines in terms of what it's sitting in. It's no matter what I bought back when they were cheap, okay? With AKs, I'd recommend Beaverboard Standard Rear Woodstock basic rifle. Keep it simple. Kiss. Keep it simple. Stupid. You can always change the four grips and add a few picatinny rails if you absolutely feel that you need the rest of the electronics. There are of course all kinds of stocks out there that are you can spend any kind of money you want and I appreciate that and if you choose to do so double plus good congratulations you're doing the right thing because it's what you want to do and if you think I'm gonna fight you over that you got to be crazy we haven't got time for that. Whatever you like, I think it's Wunderbar, okay? But embrace it, know how to make it, do what it's supposed to do, master that weapon, and bring it to the table, bring it to the battlefield where, you know, with the most potential you possibly develop so that when we get out there, we're working better as a team against the aggressor. But the AKs that are out there that Palmetto has produced are all American-made. and still integratable with a lot of other AKs and AKMs that are out there that have been in production in the past. So the cool thing is, is that a percentage of the arsenal inventory of spare parts that's spread across the country is to a degree useful with the Palmetto and most of the other guns that you see that have been produced by other companies. In a century, oh God, I mentioned everybody goes, everybody cringes century arms. Century International Arms knows how to make guns but seems to try not to make them right, which means as a CIA operation, which is what they are, their spook and kook operation, Mossad and CIA, they produce some junk every once in a while. You can't say that they don't know what they're doing. Century has been around a very, very, very long time. But, again, if you get a good one, you get a good one. If it's a bad one, typically it's improper seating of the barrel, offsetting of the barrel, so that the front sight can't really be corrected no matter how hard you try. It doesn't happen all the time. One of the ways to deal with that is ignore the iron sights and add an optical with a rail, and you're back on track very quickly because your point of impact will be identified and you can get the weapon to do what it's supposed to do. Now, Palmetto has, I'd say, about three or four variants that are in the basic Beaver Board slash Woodstock standard rear or Polymer. They've got Polymer stocks too. Again, it's a flavor choice. Also, it's a matter of what can I get for the most? How much can I get for the least amount of money to get the most bang for my buck? Okay, which is what we're looking at. How can I get on the table with that rifle so I can be part of the team that I'm with that's using the AK? Again, Palmetto is, I think, still one of the better choices right now for off the shelf. You're trying to figure out what you like. You're not out as much. You'll figure out very quickly if you think the AK is, you know, free as it fits your niche. I would say this though that I would remind you that Palmetto State Armory makes ARs. And before we go any farther, let me repeat what I have said a million times on the air, get an AR-15, get an AR-15, get an AR-15. Between the AK and the AR, you cover almost every, most armies on the planet in terms of basic weapons concept. It's either the AK family or it's the AR family by 60 going now on 70 years worth of issue. Because this is the year 2024. And the AR-15 came into service in 1960 and in reality in 1958, Stoner's first concept for the 5.56 gun was already there. In 1960, he actually produced a number of E-models which were shot over to Vietnam. And I personally know people who served over there that saw them in 1960 and 61 as advisors. Nobody wanted to carry them. They were in the arsenal. They stayed in the arsenal. They had been used if there was a desperate need to get every gun in service. But the weapon was just not useful because there was no commonality for ammunition or magazines. It was an alien firearm at that time, okay? But now that's 64 years ago. In that time, half the planet is using the AR-15M16 weapon system. And the other half is using some variant in the AK. And there's a few offset little firearm production companies here and there. The Israelis always have something goofy they pull out of their arse. And usually they steal it from somebody else and claim they did it, which has always been the case with them. And needless to say, the Europeans have their ideas that pop up every once in a while and then disappear. Example, the G36, okay, which is not good enough for a security gun, but the G36 has got a lot of problems because it's with plastic and we warned you about the polymer guns to begin with. Yeah. So anyway, AK, when I talk about iron sights, Standard AK iron sights as a base. Most of the AKs that are being produced have a side rail system to begin with. That wasn't standard on every gun, but it is now. So putting optics on the gun without having to do anything more to your weapon other than slide on the scope fixture is a pretty double plus good thing. And one of the advantages is you can have a rail system set up with night vision, you can have a rail system set up with a blood flashlight and a conventional optic, and the rails themselves are cheap. I should say, forgive me, the scope mounts are cheap. Rails are already on the gun. Typically, I don't know anybody who is producing them without. There probably is somebody out there, but most everybody is incorporating that side mount fixture that originally was on the SVD and was embraced and put on pretty much everything to date now. The cool thing is you can get China Sport, you can get Euro, you can get American in those mounts and take advantage of whatever fits your wallet and also float your boat for need as far as how it's designed. And you can experiment. I would point out if you get something and you don't like it as much, Don't get rid of it. Configure it with something else that you have laying on the shelf or with other optics. Example, if I have a mount and it doesn't quite do what I need because I wanted to put, say, a light on it along with other items or a laser, I could at least relegate it to or switch it sideways to carrying a conventional scope. Because that is kind of handy once in a while to have with a weapon system of this type to actually do placement shooting. And especially in a situation where ammunition becomes rather lean, focusing on accuracy over volume fire is going to be a very, you know, critical issue that everybody's going to learn. And we're going to drive it home before we get started. In other words, we're not going to spray and pray. Aim, low, ghost, low hits, count, misses, don't. You wanna be putting bullets down range into target. You want to hit. And it's more important that we start out from the beginning, one bullet, one enemy. Not waiting till the end when, my God, we're short ammunition. Remember, one bullet, one enemy. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You start from the beginning with quality control and focusing on, again, putting tags on target. That's more important than anything else. Doesn't have to be perfect, but just hit something, okay? As far as carry pouches for the AKs, by the way, there's a ton of different systems out there. Apex Gun Parts has a bunch of custom-built chest rigs that they do. You've got all kinds of other companies out there doing both chest rigs, but also support pouches for the Mali system that will work with the AK-47 mags. The two numerous to mention, but I would point out don't try to just make do one of the things about magazine pouches is that they are built for particular systems and the AK is a little bit of a chunky mag. So you want to make sure you got enough space to make it work and not get things stuck. There are a number of different options out there in terms of camouflage patterns and also how the system is configured for padding and how they're reinforced. This again is purely a matter of what can you afford. I understand everybody's limited, but you want to tailor that if you're going to commit to the AK, you want the AK-centric technology to support it. Don't make do with something else. You can use any kind of web gear. But the pouches that support the particular weapon system, it's a good idea to invest in them. Example is, M1 carbine mag pouches, of course now they're stupid price, crazy price for these to be pennies. It's the appropriate mag pouch, they work, they work first time every time. This is true of the cartridge belts. Well, with the AKs, there's three-cell, four-cell, there's 30 round or 20 round. If you don't remember, there were a bunch of, as I mentioned about a few weeks ago. There was a burst where a whole bunch of AK 20 round mag pouches came out and everybody goes, what are those for? Those are for the Krenkov. The Krenkovs, you remember for the vehicle use, had the 20 round magazines so they could articulate the weapon in the combat fixture inside the vehicle. because you can fire from the infantry fighting vehicle. The Krenkoff was designed to lock into the fighting station and was designed so it could sweep around and move left, right, up, down within the confine of the BMP and of course also the BTR-70 and it's set to anything else that's newer. So, the 20 rounders, if you do commit to a certain number of 20 round AK mags, maybe because you're limited in your area or you're restricted in your state, I understand, but also they're handy because they do keep you closer to the ground. I carry with the AK rigs, I have a few five rounder mags. Five rounder mags? What would you do with those? You get my ask really low to the ground. Didn't cost me anything when they used to buy the aks you got three up to five five round aks with each rifle because they were brought in as Sporting rifles remember that now the rest it would be a mix whatever I've got on my rig but for instance I jam a few 20 rounders into the back of my load bearing kit left and right into smaller AR-15 20 round mag pouches, they actually fit, they work quite well. The interesting thing is that this helps to counterweight because of the amount of material I've got typically upfront in terms of mags that are being carried. You always hear them up here saying, Mark, you're kind of heavy on mags. No, not, you're gonna run out of ammo. Okay, how many mags you carry, you can run out of ammo very, very quickly or well, it's not really very quickly, but it seems like a short time. Doesn't take long at all. So more mags, more ammo is always better, period. But tailoring the pouches, there's the vinyl Hungarian. You've got the East German rain pattern, the boxcar pattern, which are still out there all over the place. Most are actually the ones right now are out there are work for the AK-74, but the cool thing is they're spacey. So if you're trying to, again, pick up something to carry a number of additional mags and you want to do a sling bag or something like that too, those rain pattern AK East German mag pouches work quite well. AK-74 or AK-47 doesn't mean it was the mags that both. Now the difference, you'll notice the AK-47 mag pouches have a pronounced banana shape to them. They have an arc to the side panel. Whereas the 74s, Actually, they're kind of straight. Like they didn't worry about sculpting the bag, the pouches to the magazine, even though there still is a bit of a taper to the 545x39 round. Anyway, Palmetto. If I'm going to invest in the AK, you also are going to want to, again, start to pick up spare parts. And one nice thing is Palmetto is selling parts. It doesn't mean they're the only ones. There's all kinds of extra company or additional companies out there. We've never get everybody from Sarco to Gunpartscorp.com Apex Gunparts has a ton of AK parts, including some pretty good deals on some of the accoutrements that you need to go along, including the mag pouches and such that I was just talking about. But more important is firing pin extractor and ejector or a complete bolt. Now, Ejector with the AK, you really aren't going to do that because if you know how the AK is built, that's not going to be an issue. It's either there, it's not. But for the extractor, firing pin, or complete bolt set, I would recommend if you can invest in it a complete bolt set for each of the AKs. This is the same thing that we do with Model 870 shotguns. There are so many cop shop 870 shotgun parts assemblies out there that over the years, we've purchased lots of 200 and 300 870 bolts because somebody thought they needed the latest Schmidlap bolt instead of the original factory Remington bolt. Well the advantage is it's a complete bolt. Everything's on board and these were a dime a dozen back in the day. The advantage, well if anything, especially extractors, which is the most common thing as I've told you many many many times to fail on any of your weapons, pistol, rifle or shotgun, Having a complete bolt so you can simply drop the action, introduce, take out the old bolt, introduce the new, make sure you find that part. If that broken extractor tooth is still in there, you better find it, or it might cause problems for the next bolt. But again, it's a very quick change out. AK is even simpler. SKS, same as the AK, incredibly simple. Needless to say, the AR-15, incredibly simple. But now with the AR I would recommend a complete bolt carrier and one of the things that we do with all my people if you're carrying the AR-15 on the tactical rig we have a complete bolt carrier in whatever the Dutch single flare pouches that were made in DPM. They might still be available through a number of companies like KeepShooting.com, KeepShooting.com, and also every once in a while they still show up over, and they're probably still in inventory, over at Sportsman's Guide. Now these are perfect for, again, take that bolt carrier, wrap it up in a long zip lock bag. It's lubricated a little bit so it doesn't get rusted if you're carrying it in your combat rig. But insert that into that pouch and you're carrying a complete spare bolt carrier with you all the time. Something happens. We're not going to fidget and sub-disassemble an AR-15 bolt. We're going to just pull the whole bolt carrier out, stuff it in the dump bag or drop it for the moment, reintroduce the replacement bolt carrier. You're back in business. that quick and that's really is something you should be focusing on right now. You need to make sure again firing pin extractor, ejector, every weapon that we have should be up to snuff with regard to those spare parts. Now the nice thing about the AK, let me remind everybody, I mentioned apexgunparts.com. They do have a lot of unique pieces and parts over there you might wanna take a look at. You never know what you're going to run into and yes they do have sales, doesn't everybody? But what is important about this is again the inventory that they have crosses all Polish production, Yugo production, you name it they've got it. If you have a particular model, Wasser 10, etc. All of these weapons, the system is pretty well ready to support them. And again, firing pin extractor, ejector, an additional gas system complete. That includes the, you know, the out-broad, the whole nine yards, or, forgive me, gas piston. Very simple, very straightforward to, you know, get squared away. And again, maybe, you know, may not be carrying these items. But you will have them in the inventory available so that when the time comes, you have the ability to keep the weapon in service when the other side figured you'd be out of business. And I will remind you again that the system feels that they have pretty well got everybody flat-footed in that you aren't thinking about spare parts. You're not thinking about keeping the weapon operational for an extended period of time. Well, I'm planting that seed now and hopefully you will. In fact, that's the plan to try and get everybody on the same page on this. The bad guys hate this. They do not want this to happen. We have the, as I've said, that term deep, larder, the ability to actually maintain an extensive inventory and in the process, sustain the weapons for not one or two years, but for an extended period of time. In other words up to and including decades of service, which is what needs that's how we need to be thinking about our supply system our service system anyway Mark oh Go ahead color jump in there, please So our dick van dyke or should I say our penis not lesbian Dana Nestle? There is an article about I think she's trying to block ammo some My wife didn't read the article, but she read me the headline, said something about Dana Nessel trying to block military grade ammunition to be sold to the public. Do you see that? Yes, she's part of the group that signed off on that, yes. So is that, what did they do? No, they haven't done anything yet. They're proposing legislation. But she's arguing that, you know, obviously the peasants need to be disarmed, pissed on the twitch. She's going to be gone with the rest of them when the time comes, you know how that is. But yes, there were 22, 23 horrors slash prostitutes, in this case, the Dyke, lesbian queer in Michigan here. We're flapping their yap about blocking the sale of 556 because they have been issued a weapon of war. And it's rather comical because, again, smiling as I am, they're talking about specifically 556. Well, you guys all know how I feel about this, although again, I will tell you all one more time, everybody buy an AR-15, buy an AR-15. But it doesn't have to be in 556. And in fact, you should have an upper in all of the basic calibers, simply because that way, if something happens, you're not going to run out of ammunition. You simply change out that bolt carrier. Now they can't wrap their brain around. The other problem here is that I really prefer a main battle rifle cartridge. And if you think that an AR-15 is quote unquote yuck, yuck, yuck powerful, well, say hello to my friend 30-06. You know what I mean? You know, these twits, idiots and incompetence coached by, again, vulgar idiots. Constantly come up with this trash, they pull it out of their hind end, they don't have a clue, but they're just parroting what they were told. If you look at her, that idiot is an absolute box of rocks, is an absolute idiot stick, a twit. But that's why it got the job it got. And again, if they want to try it, I mean, I don't really think it's gonna make much difference considering where we're headed with the shipwreck. So it's really a moot issue. We're going to war. We're going to end up shooting their ass. Really, whatever they block or try to block, it's too late in the game. Everybody that's, you know, planning on doing what they're planning on doing is pretty much got a lot of what they need already. But as far as them getting away with or getting what they want in that deal, I don't see it going the way they expect. I'm sure they'd like it to. But everybody's pretty well got the same attitude. It's like, we're just not going to pay attention to that. Now, they aren't talking about 308, they're not talking about 30 out of 6, they're not talking about 760 by 39, they're harping on the 556. But part of that is because, yes, that is the standard martial arm for most of the, you know, half the world. So we need to make sure that we do all have one. We all need to make sure everybody has one. And you should probably start off by having it in 556, and then working your way down the rest of the, you know, upper receiver types that, you know, are available. And it should be a high priority to do that. Of course, I've been talking about AKs. It's like, well, Mark, you were just talking about AKs. Yes, but for those of you who may already have that issue covered, again, I can't stress enough, get an AR-15 because it is the gladius of the day. It is the norm. It's the most common weapon that you're going to see out there and floating about. So let's take advantage of it. And again, we'll get the job done. One of the other things about this proposal is arbitrary implementation there. What they're bitching about is the Lake City Arsenal because the Lake City Arsenal has been run by private independent contractors, remember, for quite some time. Now my argument on that whole situation though is that people have gotten notoriously lazy and everything has been too heavily centralized and that needs to end. That's why I love hearing about Palmetto State Armory stepping up to the plate and running with the 760 by 39 round. Eventually, they'll do 556, but what they're doing is they're filling a niche for a chambering that is dominant out there. So they're serving a purpose, they're doing the right thing. And again, we need more companies that are away from Lake City that are building ammunition. They don't need to be official, they need to be very quietly doing that if need be. But we need everybody to support that idea. And we need to be talking about it in our own circles more on a regular basis and much more aggressively. Because, as they said, if they get their way and they cut off Lake City, they're arguing that about 40 to 50% of what presently is sold to the population would be cut off from the population. Well, that tells you that we got the wrong system set up there right now, boys. That means somebody screwed up and we can't have that we cannot afford for that situation to continue We need to make sure that we correct that path and that means we need other Manufacturing bases we need other even if they're smaller doesn't make any difference smaller is better anyway Why well in the up-and-coming war we're gonna need mobility And that is one of the things that can be done with proper the proper establishment of light or smaller manufacturing operations That we deploy around the country and we're going to have to do that. Well move them around the country We'll be just deploying in one place. We're gonna end up having to be able to mobilize and reset manufacturing as needed depending upon the these Environment the situation as it develops. So we had a lot of work to do but Again, it's late in the game. Lake City Arsenal has been doing too much, and it's been too centralized. Hopefully, people will kind of figure out that's not a good thing, and start moving against that, moving to fix it. And we can, it can be done, but it should be again a very, very high priority right now. Anyway, let's see, we're past the bottom of the arc, but you know what? It doesn't make any difference, Edwards right there. You are listening to us on WBCQ and we'll be right back. 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And that is Monday through Friday, 8 to 9 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. So tune in, check us out, and let us know. Are we coming in in your area? We may not be able to pick us up. We need to know that too. Let us know how we do sound. Quality control is part of the process. You guys make it happen. It is, again, we're more than halfway through the month of January. It is the 17th of January. One more time. I would point out that we're probably going to see, and I do know this, there's another company that was doing 7.62x39 brass and is going to be doing a major run of 5.56 brass here very soon and they're not going to stop running until the wheels fall off the machinery, but what I'm told. Now, that's as much as I can say because, again, I've known these guys for a long time. I've mentioned them before on the air a little while back. But they said, well, just wait because they're already accumulating raw materials. They're going to do a massive production run. And when they, and again, it's going to be specifically provided to the Patriot effort, militia people, anybody who is trying to organize appropriately for the up and coming events. And what's really cool is the quality of their product has always been very high. So once we get the heads up and I can let you know about that Palmetto we get we only found about that in the last month The other companies that are out there are taking seriously what I was just talking about with regard to Obviously Lake City being too much of a Pavlin producer Everybody got used to being lazy and because of that the bad guys are looking at targeting one site and doing damage to all So we need to fix that. And I'm pretty sure that that will be an issue that will be moot very quickly here. If everything goes the way it's supposed to, I'm sure it will. Also, again, cleaning kits. Somebody was asking me about that right here. There's a whole bunch of pick and dental pick type units that are out there for doing maintenance on the AR. The AR has always been a problem for that because it's got all the nooks, crannies and places where garbage builds up. Get used to it. You got to live with it. It's just the nature of the beast. We can handle it. I think we're pretty detailed individuals. We can stay focused enough to clean the weapon out properly. If you go to any number of sources, there are some really, really useful nylon pick systems right now. And I recommend investing in them because they're less abusive to the weapon. Now, that doesn't mean the AR-15 can't handle a little bit of, you know, aggressiveness. But remember, every time you use metal on metal, You're wearing finish and you're going to be wearing the part itself. Now it doesn't mean we can't change certain parts, but we don't want to break down or damage the, for instance, the upper or lower receiver. These nylon picks run as little as three, four dollars a set. They're available in even through the China sport companies. If you look at Teemu or whatever it is, they have them available. But there are a number of American companies who produce them in country. I would not be surprised if, for instance, PMAG off Magpul, I would think that they make one, they make a set. If you don't have a set of this type, I recommend getting one ASAP. And again, putting it into the inventory where you can access it. So keep it on your, it may not be in your battle rig, but it should be in your backpack. as part of or at least attached in a pouch on the outside of the backpack. There are a number of different ways that people establish support for their weapons. I typically carry that kind of technology with the house load, with the backpack rather than on the combat load. It's not essential. It's useful but not essential. In a contact situation where I can shave an ounce of weight off one way, I can add more ammunition and mags the other. which is always our goal to increase combat effectiveness. So again, they're not that expensive. I think it's a five set, pick set. And by the way, if you have a mini 14 or if you have an FNFL HK91, I'd recommend picking up one of these sets also, simply because again, you keep working the weapon, you're gonna be building up junk. It's just how it is. We all know this. So what we need to do is make sure we got the right tools in the tool bag to keep the weapon running properly and these are a useful tool. They're a solution. Typically come in black. Somebody says, well, they come in black. I think I've seen them in OD green also. So they do make them in OD. They're affordable. The big thing is they're economical. Now, are they gonna wear out? Sure. Yes, they're supposed to. Now, let's remember, you know what? One of the funny things about that, forgive me, one of the funny things about that is, well of course it's gonna wear out. You want the cleaning kit item to wear out, not the rifle. Can I remind everybody of that? I had this conversation years ago. It's like, well, you know, there's some really well-made, you know, long-lasting cleaning kits. It's like, yes, but the idea behind it is, remember, the cleaning kit is supposed to wear out instead of the weapon being worn out. We want to make sure that we again extend the life of the rifle. So cleaning accoutrements are made out of softer metals. You'll notice it used to be brass. Now granted, if you had the M16, you had the steel cleaning kit, I did. But traditionally, brass is used because the brass is malleable. It'll give. If something is going to give, you want the brass to wear out, not the barrel of your weapon, not the chamber of your weapon. So, these little nylon picks with the proper solvents are going to work just fine. They are, again, quite affordable, as I already mentioned. So, they should be a priority for acquisition, you know, again, within a reasonable period of time, quick as you can, so that you have that tool in the toolbox, and they quite literally are that. Now, on solvents, I had somebody asking me about, you know, what are we using for bore cleaner now? We don't have corrosive problems with corrosive ammunition pretty much in service, but it still pops in out there. And there are a number of formulas for making your own corrosive neutralizing agents for cleaning your firearm. This is especially gonna be serious with the Grand FN FAL, H.P. 91s. And one of the reasons is that again, there still is some 308 floating around. that is either corrosive or the term you might notice is mildly corrosive. What's mildly corrosive? Well, you know how like an aliens where they hit the alien and they eat through the spaceship right away? Well, it'll just take longer. What it will eat through. In other words, yeah, it's corrosive. It's using a mercuric primer which is more reliable. But unfortunately also does create corrosion issues. So, again, it would behoove you to pick up a set of these nylon dental picks, well, they're gun cleaning picks, typically listed for the AR-15, but for any weapon we have, I would recommend them. Now, another thing, and again with regard to solvents, there are a number of commercial cleaners out there that are in the tool and die sector. Now, I don't think many people have reached into that area with regard to finding a solution for this particular issue, but if you take a look and get hold of some people that might be working in that area that, you know, again, you're in a machine shop nearby, there are several relatively mild, but aggressive solvents that are available, that are not harmful to the operator. That's one of the most important things. Let's not do something to ourselves trying to maintain the weapon. But what's interesting is that, again, if you have any kind of industrial supply in your area for tool and die, machine shops, et cetera, you might want to stop over and ask them, hey, what have you got sitting here on the shelf? What do you have in the way of solvents? And the reason I bring that up is because, again, remember with fine machinery work, they can't have an aggressive, well sometimes they do, depending on how coarse the cut is. But most of the work that's going to be done is using a less aggressive solvent because they don't want to etch or break down the metal. So, that's another area where I've had people ask, well, where can we go for, you know, especially in this day and age, because it's harder to find that type of, those types of cleaning items in any good numbers or anything in the way of a decent product. And I would recommend that if you do a little research, you'd be amazed what you might find laying around. It's a matter of how industrially centered your area of operation is. You might have to travel farther otherwise. You can also order stuff through the mail, but here's one of the things about that. Many of the solvents and or degreasing agents are considered to be caustics in one form or another, and so there's usually additional costs and fees to have the stuff shipped if it's done by any UPS, FedEx, or postal. In some cases, they won't even ship it. So, you're better off trying to find a local source and then paying cash anyway just to, you know, let's just say camouflage the practice. Don't forget that these same solvents are good for a lot of other work. Go ahead, jump in there. This is John from Kentucky. Have you thought about the solvents that are used for black powder? Well that's another solution, but you know what's funny about that? In the last couple of months, we've been noticing, and everybody has been telling us about this now too, that a lot of the black powder products are just disappearing. It's true that most all of the commercial off-the-shelf cleaning solvents that are available, black powder is highly corrosive, so you're absolutely correct there. Using that type of corrosion or neutralizer slash inhibitor would work with corrosive ammo. Now let me give an example of where that's gonna still pop up. If any of you bought any of this 303 or 8 millimeter Mauser that's coming out of Centerfire or JG Sales or any of the other companies that are offering the Turkish military, well, it's not Turkish, it is Turkish surplus, but it's not Turkish ammo. It's actually World War II American and or British and or German ammunition. Then yeah, the black powder neutralizing agent solvents would work, I would think. Should be no problem at all. The biggest issue is again, trying to find them. It's like caps right now for black powder have become unobtainium. This is why you're seeing so many videos on YouTube about making your own black powder caps because availability has just dropped into the basement. And again, everybody assumed the stuff would always be there. Black powder, pyrotechs, and or the, what is it, 50-50? That's another one that's out there right now. They're simply, they're not on the shelf. You know, they're not out there where they should be. So if you can find it, I'd grab it. Because again, the other, you're not going to see much in the way of pistol ammo. I will say this. If you have any of the check, 9 millimeter parabellum. Let's remember the checks were not NATO, but the checks made a bunch of nickel jacketed brass case, 9 millimeter ammunition for a couple of their hot pockets of machine guns. And when they did this, they produced a whole bunch of ammunition, but it is aggressively corrosive. So, it would probably be comparable to dealing with black powder and your solution would probably be the best choice. So, good point. There was something that we used, or I used to make, it was called mousse milk. I don't remember the recipe, but I remember it had quite a bit of ammonia in it. Right. Oh. Yeah. Well again, like I said, there are several different formulas out there for making your own corrosion neutralizing solvent. The big thing here is, and this sounds weird I know, but even with black powder, most everybody was doing this for years, is the first thing you do is scrub it out with soap and water. Simply to, again, evacuate the material. If you evacuate the carbon, you're evacuating what is the threat to the metal. And then the solvent is used next to absolutely get to whatever aggressive or locked on points where the material is. And then you finally do use a lubricant to seal the metal back up. So, good point. No, thank you. The home recipes are still out and about. And again, I would recommend that, guys, if you can go over to YouTube, whatever you see there, don't assume it's going to be there next week. The... Go ahead. What do you think about the brass jacket bullets they have now in the hardball that Remington used? Oh, there's nothing wrong with that. And mostly, again, remember those are Turkish. You could use brass, you can use copper. You've used copper, you've used brass, they've used bi-metal. I mean, actually, even the Germans even experimented during the later part of World War II, they used aluminum jackets. It wasn't very common, but they were desperate to use anything they could get their hands on. The brass is not a problem. I just don't know. First of all, remember brass is a formula metal, okay? Copper's in there. Hold on just a second. The big thing here is that there are many different mixes of when you have a conglomerate metal, there are many different formulas just like there are hundreds of steels, there are hundreds of different aluminum types of grades and the same is true with brass. And in this case, as long as you don't dip in an armpit juice, you should be fine. And what I mean by that is, again, if it's a brass jacket, I've noticed that with the with the turkey stuff, remember we talked about this, we've got some of the empty cases somebody gave me to look at. It's a steel chrome chromed steel case with a brass jacketed bullet lead core, of course. I also noticed that the jacket is about half as thick as it used to be on a lot of things. Everybody's bean counting. That's expected. You know, like we've talked about that. Everybody's gonna try and bring it down as light and minimal as possible. That's not really a problem because there's The nature of the hydraulic effect of the of the slap of energy on the base of like say a nine millimeter The very nature of the cup and how it's built is such that there's not going to be any distortion The big thing getting to the other end is the bullet might actually cavitate more efficiently and do deliver a little more energy on target when it gets there. Go ahead. Okay, I want to On amaleman.com 9mm mag deck steel 115 grain FMJ 1000 rounds steel case $255 Again that's 9mm mag deck steel 115 grain FMJ 1000 rounds steel case $255 Again that's amaleman.com Very good, thank you sir. Guys, for everybody out there, we are at the top. Didn't take long. With the AK, again, flavor choice, whatever you choose, congratulations, you're right. I'm just giving you some ideas based upon our experience in the past. The standard stock is easily replaced. You can build one from scratch if you have to. Boulders, little different story there. Anyway, God bless our republic. Ladies and gentlemen, the Empire is out in the rough. We'll be back tomorrow, same time here on Liberty Train Radio.