a teacher that I had. I went through the seventh grade. I went to the seventh grade. I left home when I was 10 years old because I was hungry. I used to be. I used to do. I work in the summer and I go to school in the winter. But I had this one teacher. He was the principal of the Harrison School in Vincent, Indiana. To me, this was the greatest teacher, a real sage of my time, anyhow. He had such wisdom. And we were all reciting the Pledge of Allegiance one day. And he walked over, this little old teacher. Mr. Laswell was his name. Mr. Laswell, this is, um, he says, I've been listening to you boys and girls recite the Pledge of Allegiance all semester. And it seems as though it's becoming monotonous to you. If I may, may I recite it and try to explain to you the meaning of each word. I, me, an individual, a committee of one, pledge. dedicate all of my worldly goods to give without stealth pity, allegiance, my love and my devotion to the flag, our standard, oh glory, a symbol of freedom. Wherever she waves, there's respect because your loyalty has given her a dignity that shouts freedom is everybody's job. United. That means that we have all come together States individual communities that have united into 48 great states 48 individual communities with pride and dignity and purpose all divided with imaginary boundaries yet united to a common purpose and That's love for country and to the Republic Republic A state in which sovereign power is invested in representative chosen by the people to govern. And government is the people. And it's from the people to the leaders. Not from the leaders to the people. For which it stands. One nation, one nation. Meaning, so blessed my God. Indivisible, incapable of being divided. With liberty, which is freedom. the right of power to live one's own life without threats, fear, or some sort of retaliation and justice. The principle or qualities of dealing fairly with others for all, which means boys and girls, it's as much your country as it is mine. And now boys and girls, let me hear you recite the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country and two words have been added to the pledge of allegiance under God. Wouldn't it be a pity if someone said that is a prayer? And that would be eliminated from schools too. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free, home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper, so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number, you've traded in your name, you've given government control to those who do you harm, so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail, harass your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave. O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God, keep the torture freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each god-given right, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep, and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free? And good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, this is the... first hour of the afternoon intelligence report by Mark Kornke, one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines and occupied territories south, southwest, southeast, and northeast. Ladies and gentlemen, you were listening to us on... libertytreeradio.4mg.com, Liberty Tree Radio on satellite running even if a micro station, CB Bay stations and alternate Hallmark and Golden Spike technologies, east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. Good afternoon to all of our friends out there in Lower 49 including the Gray State of Jefferson, Long-Colness, the Outline Two-State Territories and the clock. It is 5.11 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. It is Wednesday. God, so soon. Oh man, been a busy week. I'm watching fascinating things develop more in that minute here, but it is the 6th of October. It is the 13th year of open, obvious, and in your face, Fabian socialist and Soviet socialist. Occupation of America with a K 2021. old earth calendar 2021 battle for the republic, the dance of swords and the dance has already begun. And it's interesting I'm watching a clutch of two different families of turkey buzzards that I've been watching all year and well all season all summer and the little guys started out and you'll say you know when they first got out here You can kind of hang it close to mom and dad. Well, they still are, but we've got a parcel of turkey buzzards, and all of them made it this year, looks like, in each one of the clutches. So we've got about between one, two, three, maybe four breeding pairs, another four or five birds per. So we've got this legion of buzzards that are all tightly packed. They don't go very far from each other. And they're passing by right now in a little cloud. Just fascinating to watch the big birds little guys though by comparison ah the size of big chickens The regular turkey buzzards the size of small turkeys. There's the difference in size so this year's babies are getting bigger though by the day and pretty soon They'll be spreading out again, and we'll have an even bigger colony of something that wants to eat all the dead stuff around here Like them in handy down the road once you start hanging these bastards anyway It is Weapons Wednesday. A couple things I'm going to comment on here real quick, and it's something I've noticed. On the one hand, I understand that I appreciate large capacity magazines that have no problem with it all, but sometimes the smaller capacity magazines are kind of handy for a couple of tasks. Let me give an example. I've mentioned many times the old Bushmaster bullpup pistol. I love that gun. I've had at least Four, maybe I count technically five, but I had one so short a period of time because one of my allies begged for it and was like it was a complete kit. Back in the day in the 80s, it was, we just built up a kit in a rifle case and I had the standard Bushmaster first model with the top ejection and a regular pickle fork, a of Pickle Fork AR-15 Flash Editor because it took mostly AR-15 parts, all the critical parts are AR. So you're never going to run up parts for the Bushmaster pistol, understand that. That's something nobody talks about. It was really cool, which is another reason it was really popular, both it and the rifle when it came out. is all the critical parts were something right off the shelf, AR15, M16. So there wasn't anything you didn't need to change out, you know, right away. But when you did, you wouldn't have to worry about whether or not you could get what you needed. The flash hiders were standard AR15 and it came with a regular basket. But immediately everybody wanted the Kar-15 flash hider. So I made a little kit that had the Pickle Fork, M16, you know, the E1. Then the A1 short basket, also the XM177 copy since not many people had the originals, they did bring them back but they were smart enough not to let them out where anybody could see them. And in addition to that, a couple of the pepperbox types that were being done by a company out of Kentucky and they were making new flash hiders, mostly what they were, just experiments and copies of some of the Russian stuff, either as cuts type compensators or pepperbox type systems. And then of course I had 15 AR-15 standard 30 round magazines, M16, and actually they were action arms. You remember I mentioned that many times, I was fascinated by that. Action arms, wow. It must be actiony. Yeah, oh it's really exciting. Anyway, 15 of those, but I also had 10 of the 20 round mags on board and a couple of the five rounders, which were kind of hard to get at that time, although they were standard from coal. The interesting thing is the five rounders really conform to not magazine restrictions, but competition restrictions, which everybody kind of forget about. They kind of forget about that there were different match groups out there and the standard was to load five rounds. Well, so I have a lot of extra weight. You're going to put enough weight on the barrel and everything else. Why not take and use a five round mag for competition? So I had a couple of those there. Now why? In a pistol, first of all, it's a Bushmaster bullpup. It looks cool with a big, long banana bag. That is true. But if you're trying to wear it under your coat, if you can make it a little smaller for at least carrying and have a little firepower right away, 20 rounds is good enough for the moment. It didn't print as much. So if you put it on a tanger, kind of like you had set up for the Mac-10, and it was basically a guy bra, and it had a variable extendable strap on the stock side where you kept the gun. Which in this case was not over on your left side but on your right side. And the parallel looked at the body if you were smart because your chest would help to conceal the magazine, remember how this thing is hanging. And the weapon got smaller as it went down, needless to say, as most guns do, but it actually was kind of like a triangle. If you think about it, when you put the 20 round mag in, it kept it much shorter. You didn't have that extreme magazine. Only a few more inches does count. Now, I'm a big guy, chest-wise. I've always had a big chest. So I could carry bigger guns comfortably and pretty much keep them out of sight. But still it was better choice to use the 20 rounder initially buzz it out if you were going to use it drop it real quick and go to 30s the 30s were in jackass slab carriers on the left side carry two there and then carry a Horizontally mounted in the smaller your back on your belt another 30 round magazine. Steve pretty much out of sight out of mind. If you had to sit down, you were going to know it's there, but you really couldn't see it. When you're standing up, it really, you know, blended quite well with the body line. So he ended up with 90 rounds plus 20, or if you wanted to, pull the 20 out, stick a 30 rounder in there and go for the gusto. If it really wasn't super concerned about concealability, you know, they were still going to print once in a while. Now big guns like that are going to print. That's what I mean by print. Remember when you move around, you kind of have to pay attention to where you place your arms. And when you bend over, remember, rigid objects have a tendency to stay rigid. And what happens when you bend forward, the barrel of the weapon or the top, in this case, of the frame is probably going to create a bump or create a right angle, obvious right angle bump on your coat or jacket or whatever you're wearing. People who are smart are paying attention and looking for stuff like that. And you'd be surprised how many people are actually noticing of something like that too. So with concealability with bigger weapons like this, the shorter mags, you already see this by the way, if you remember, it was also because of use in the vehicle itself, the Krinkov 7.62x39 short short AK. Real popular just like the XM177 was real popular. It was looking cool because only special people had the XM177 in all the Kar-15. which now everybody calls the M4. But it was special cool back then because only special cool guys had it. So the Crank Off really kind of fit in the same niche and that it was a really super cool oddball AK that not everybody had. Ergo, you're special. Okay, now it didn't give you really a big advantage because it's shorter, you got less range and it's got a bigger muzzle flash and it's like... I think I'll stick with a standard gun and just get really good with it and show you how as maybe a leader and a rifleman, I plan on killing them as far out as I possibly can. If they get closer, I do have a pistol and a few other things in my possession. I can hack and chop or, you know, beat them to death if need be because I want to save ammo. Or maybe because I feel the pleasure of getting close to them and actually, you know, venting some anger on my enemy. That's kind of good. Sometimes it's good to physically beat them to death. or stab him. I mean seriously, it's the adrenaline rush thing I told you about over and over again. You kind of, here we go, got it out of your system. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a bloody mess. I know. Yeah, he is. I like this. This is good. Okay, I feel better. He feels bad. He deserved it. Came to play assassin, decided to kill him. Everybody's happy. Yeah, game over. So anyway, the same is true with a lot of the other weapons that we have out there. We have shorter mags for it. Example, I carry, if I carry an AK, I carry usually at least two five round AK mags. Everybody got rid of them. I always got them for free. I have cases of them. Now somebody finally figured out something that I already knew in that. Well, wait a minute We're getting all these a K magazine holes and and the base plate on those five rounders is just like the base plate on that and so is the follower There's a whole bunch of money in those five rounders that I gave away Yeah, I know only I bought him either I either got him for free or I bought him when they were a dollar apiece And everybody stripped him out because they were worth about five six dollars worth of parts. They forgot about Base plate and the follower Yeah, Nick cool, but anyway, I didn't take him apart because I don't want to take him apart. Why? Well, if I want to get down lower the AK is not conducive to that neither is the air with 30 round mag You can get down but you have to bring your elbows up typically when you got the 30 rounder in place You have to adjust your body accordingly with the AK. It's the same way However, if you want to really get down low and you're going to use that AK for a little placement shooting, again, no, you're not Secret Squirrel Sniper, but you can make them pretty nervous if you actually focus. It's amazing what happens when you aim, not spray and pray. So with any gun, I don't care what it is, if you know where it prints and hits, then you probably can do a pretty good job at whatever it's given best ranges. So this is where the five round magazine or the 20s come in pretty handy. The five rounder knocks it down parallel, knocks the base height at the middle of the gun down parallel with the trigger guard, which is perfect. I mean, actually it's no different from carrying another straight line rifle like a bolt action or whatever, say a semi-automatic commercial rifle like the Remington. Anyway, this also makes for a nice little package if you want to set up like what we did with quite a few of the long barrel RPKs that came in that were Chinese, converted them into kind of like baby dragon offs. This includes making stocks for them or adapting some of the cheap dragon off type stocks that came in years ago or making our own for a little while there. And, you know, prioritizing the five round mags over to those guns. And a long barrel, really cool optics. It's not a drag enough, but it looks pretty cool. And it actually does a pretty good job with that longer barrel. Just something to think about. We got a call. Who do we have? We got Tom. Um, I wanted to let you know that ammo man.com has changed your policy. They're now asking for age verification and like state ID and driver's license. When you before they can, uh, through your order. Do you purchase on it? Oh well, okay, that's probably gonna drive a whole lot of people to go nah I think I can go somewhere else unless everybody else starts doing that Yeah, that may be that may be something. Well the bat faggots have changed a Restriction again, or they're demanding that they they played they did this before when they were trying to do the gun grab the last time Back in the 90s pretty everybody doesn't remember That this is the same thing they did before when when Bush was preparing for the big jump after his plan for Waco It was George Bush who did Waco remember that no, it's Bill Clinton No, George Bush ordered it Bill Clinton finished it and they already started that in the in the late 80s and 90s the same thing go ahead But see it's no on the website. You won't know it until you do your purchase order form and it says age verification and then when you do hit you know click to do it I'll ask you to submit a photocopy of your ID or state license it's no on the website so that's the only way that you'll know because I went to order some ammo yesterday and I saw that I'm like nope nope hell no I canceled my order and said no I'm not doing it right it's no I'm like a lot of people which is what is there's no notice on the page at all Nope, not I when I hit the cancel thing I go you guys need to play on your website instead of right after you do the purchase order because it's Because I mean how people gonna know until they get that then they won't have no way of canceling the order until unless they send them an email or Column or whatever. So yeah, that's That's something new that they started. They said that the reason is the change was made due to recent events around the country and our own desires to strengthen our inheritance, keeping ammo out of the hands of underage folks. Many states are actually changing the legal penalties for doing so by making it a felony. That was in the email they sent me. So I just wanted to give a heads up to people when they tried to order ammo from amomen.com, they'll ask for age verification and then a copy of your ID. You could send it to them through text or email or whatever, but yeah, I just wanted to put that out there. Right. One of the things that you got to remember is they didn't come up with this themselves, obviously. And it's most likely the Batfaggots it had. That's the number one pusher on any of this type of agenda. And due to events, well the events are the Batfaggots are being told that they have to go after and confiscate the guns. They're trying to advance the amount of records that they can push in hand or have in hand to cross-reference when the time comes. And for as long as you can, you want to avoid that. I mean granted if people go well you got their credit card anyway that's true and you're probably going to be using a credit card you know what is fascinating is what I have not seen. If you have a mailing address it's like okay I place the order you can't really do that hardly at all telephonically most of the places have shut down their phones. Now I know the reason for that they had so many calls for ammo But, you know, that's in reverse order. Typically those calls for ammunition were also orders that were going to be placed. So it doesn't make a whole lot of sense that they cut the phone orders except they wanted to make sure that they could keep everything on the cards where there's at least, you know, one way or another it's a faster, easier way to keep records for the FET. Okay. The next step is now to demand ID, which is going to be tied in with the credit card. So they'll have the credit activity. Don't forget the whole thing about traceability here where they wanted to confirm ID and track everybody's money, et cetera, et cetera. So this is all interwoven in the big spaghetti pile, just like we saw back in 93. 92, 93. Well, this is that was the one. They said this is something. This is something new that they did because I ordered an ammo from them a few months ago and I didn't have to go through all that ID stuff to store. It's relatively new. Right. The only thing that's events, like you said, it's the Batfaggots in motion trying to expand and getting the gun shops as they typically will, as they probably will start shutting down more and more of the ammo companies. and in the process putting them into conditions or situations where they're going to have to hand over records eventually that they've kept for the government and they'll just have all of this in one pile, they won't have to search or do any work or get up off their dead ass or even get out on the keyboard. It'll be right there in front of them. In other words, go from one department to the next. It'll all be one department, one place, and then their theory is they'll use it accordingly. I would point out that like UNAMMO, guys think about this, I've referenced UNAMMO many, many, many, many times. UNAMMO did massive public volume. UNAMMO isn't doing public sales anymore. Why? They didn't go out of business. So why did they stop? And look at when he stopped. What's really interesting about that is at a time when pretty much sales were guaranteed. UN ammo stop doing business with you now I also know it you know connections to the individual the individuals that are involved in a lot of these companies We're just doing with it. You know I'm not considering them Patriots you do understand that don't consider them even American in many cases We understand full well who's doing what kind of business? Some pretty decent others not so much, but they're in the business However, when the business is manipulated by the Fed, they goose step to whatever communist agenda is pushed. And UN ammo just literally fell off the planet at the peak of sales. I want you to think about that. UN ammo, remember? Buy by the case, 50 caliber ammo cheap, pop flares, all kinds of different items. Nothing restricted, but all kinds of different items. And then all of a sudden they're just like, oh, by the way, we're just doing wholesale now. Right in the middle of the peak of activity. That's the bat faggots. Pulling strings and, oh, we can't have you. We got to pull this in. We got to back this off. See, that's why again. Hodgson shut down the only black powder plant left in the United States. The question is why? If you're the only one in the United States, you're pretty much the number one manufacturer in the United States, right? So why would the number one manufacturer in the United States cut production of a black powder facility that is literally a monopoly? The only reason that would happen is because just like the liars in the ammunition industry are saying, oh we're just cranking it off boy, where's it? No they don't, I think they've got the brakes on everything. I don't believe for a minute that they're at maximum production. I think just to reverse they've been told just kind of plod along. And you know what, maybe just put the brakes on the machine a little bit too. something to think about there because otherwise the industry should have caught up. There's no reason for it not to unless it just isn't going to. See how that works? So this is why you have to have alternate plans for the future here. Now, this is something I did want to get into today also is, first of all, on the magazines. I was talking about short magazines within Win and Amal. Real quick, the short mags are not as cheap as they used to be because of all the restricted states where that's all that they can have. If it hadn't been for that BS, these magazines would still be a dollar a piece or two dollars a piece, except for people figuring out the commonality of parts meant they could buy them for a dollar and use the parts which are worth five, six dollars worth of parts. on other whole bodies that were out there that needed replacement parts. Okay, you know, that's just how it works. But if you can run into them and you go through a play like a gun show and you see you've got an AK and you see somebody does have some five rounders and they're cheap, grab a couple, snag a couple for each gun. And the same is true with your ARs. Snag a couple for, again, the purpose of, you know, placement shooting. You're not going to blaze away. You're going to put a bullet down range, maybe follow up with one if you have to for defensive purposes, just keeping busy. But otherwise, you're going to shoot and scoot. And keeping yourself low, minimizing silhouette is part of the program. So I just want to keep you on that one. Now, something else that I've had interesting conversations to the wee hours of the morning on case production, making cases. I'm looking at something right now I could figure out how to make a pistol case out of right away. Aluminum tubes, I need either a T-gulder or whatever, but aluminum straight tubing. In this case, wind chimes. How many different places can I find tubing? Now, this is one of the disadvantages of automatics as opposed to revolvers. Revolvers typically, but not every one of them, are a rimmed centerfire weapon. The neat thing about straight case rimmed centerfire cartridges is that you can build them quite easily. They are not complicated, either making them from raw materials and quickly drilling and finishing, not so much milling. You want to actually run them through a die. You don't have to use a big, you know, although you say, for instance, a lathe or a machine, a production CNC machine to get cases done, but you could. You could actually do cases that way in a crisis situation, running a crisis situation. You can do it right now. You could crank out cases if you needed stepped shoulder cases like the 38 Special 357, the 3030 Winchester. What you would do is start with a basic piece of brass and you would machine down and you want as close as possible and you would minimize the rim of the case but you literally would machine down the brass bore the center out to close to appropriate dimension. And then there are two things. You would create a two-step drill that would do the primer pocket. Your center cut was already done when you did the center bore to empty out the cylinder, the chamber that you wanted to create, depending on what you're doing. Now remember, this is still raw. But if I do 90% of the work with these machines, Then what I'm going to do is I'm going to take that almost finished case, look at it as like an 80-90% finished, depending on what I'm doing. If it's a 38, I would run it through a die, or 357 through a die, or 44 special, or 44 Magnum through a die, any straight case like this. And what I would be doing is extruding the case. Now, here's the thing, it's going to end up being a little long. You'll probably, if you design it right, you want just a little bit of extra material. But the advantage of a straight case die is you have no binding. When you run a straight case die or a straight case, you know, say a shadow box like this, through a die, the excess is squeezed out in length. Not a problem. Why? Well, because if you go to RCBS or LEA or any of them, you have case trimmers. And what you do is you lay that thing into a production model case trimmer and you drop it down to size. Congratulations, look what you just did. And by the way, you do have a reaming tool also. Now, these are a few more steps, but not really that much more than you would be doing if you were reprocessing, for instance, steel case, bardin prime, because there's a whole process for making that boxer prime that we've already worked out. But making raw stock out of making raw stock aluminum or raw stock brass or raw stock copper, even copper would work to actually get the job done. Now why did I mention a TIG or a Heliark welder earlier? TIG would be your better choice because TIG could work anything and you can weld two bottle caps together and touch it the next second. If you know what you're doing with a TIG welder, my God, you can weld anything. But if you were to set up a rotational, an automated T that would just do a rotational slash spherical fine weld, fine bond, because what you would do is have, say, a straight tube piece of metal. And you make a coin that is the size of the rimmed cartridge. You have to have a jig so that you lay the tube in the jig You lay the coin into the retainer, which is kind of like the front face of a bolt. And in fact, you probably could, even if you're really crude, you could actually do something like that using either an old cylinder or using a bolt, depending on what kind of round you were making, use the bolt face on an old crude Mauser or something that's passed out, you know, busted up or cut. I have a bunch of Mauser bolts that were cut years ago by one of the cop shops, got them for free. got a bucket of them and we've stripped all the parts off that were still usable and They make great cool paper weights But what's interesting is you could actually use that as a holder for the case, you know for the coin you seat the The case and then turn it what you would do is actually forgive me your tube You would heal you would forgive me you would tegue well one arc Turn it in that bolt face because it'll still be retained but now it's welded. So it's gonna be a lot. It will be centered and you just complete the weld around the circle, you've got a completed basic case. You're still going to have to drill the primer pocket and you have to drill your fire channel, which are two different dimensions. Remember that. That's why you have to have a two step drill made or buying one would be fine. And remember your primer channel, forgive me, your fire channel from your primer pocket It doesn't have to be exactly the same dimension as it is in a regular case. If you could find an off-the-shelf two-step drill that would do that, that's fine. As long as you have the shelf for the primer so that you can reload the case as needed. Now, well, I'm going through a lot of work here. Yeah, but I got my revolver working where your automatics won't be functional for a while until we can figure out a better way to make more cases. So the revolvers, the lever action guns, or many of the other single-shot long tube guns would really be great. What I mean by single-shot is a lot of these H&R type top break, but center fire in rimmed cartridge. Those things could be kept running for an indefinite period of time. And if it's a straight case like 45-70, better still. Now are we going to be blazing away with it? No, these are guns that go out and take other people's, you know, sentry's weapons or, you know, do certain tasks where somebody just needs to be gone and you're using them for that one shot and then you're gone too. You disappear. Nobody knows for sure where the shot came from and you don't care. Whatever, however you got, the target got hit, it's good enough. You don't blaze away. All it is is that long range single shot. that you know after you shoot you're already scooting guns already being disassembled you're on down the road to do other things. So the straight case now the reason now one other system that could be used is casting now this sounds weird but casting cases would not be a problem. In fact again if you understand that you could do a lost cast mold for multiple cases and then you do what is basically an internal bore, you know, boring of the rough case with a drill, and then a turn on a lathe to dust up or clean up the outer dimension, including the step for the rim, then turning it around, obviously putting in another jig with the drill press and doing your primer pocket and your fire channel, guess what, you're done. Well Mark, it's cast. Yeah, but you're putting in a revolver, dude. It's a straight case. I would guarantee that it would hold up quite nicely. Now, we're not going to play dirty hair. We're going to be loading these to standard spec. We probably could go 10-20% over. That's kind of extreme in some cases, but not so much when you consider it's a straight case. Now, the only thing is if the, as long as we have consistent uniform temperature with regard to the transfer as we know if we've ever seen how some of these molding projects work. As long as we get consistent heat and we practice getting good at it, we're not wasting our time. The big thing is don't cut corners. This is the critical component that's supposed to be perishable and it is But one of the advantages about using revolvers, if you get religious about understanding how to save the brass, just like when you have a dump bag on your combat rig for your magazines, you do the same thing when you offload the revolver, you drop the brass right into the bag, same kind of dump bag used for the mags. And speed loader, reload, and puck, puck, puck, puck, and another six rounds are down range. Of course, I wouldn't be shooting that fast. Number one, I'd aim. We had this discussion about cops and ammunition. If you look at the consumption of ammunition when they went from revolvers for a hit to automatics for a hit, you know how significantly radical it helped piss poor their marksmanship became? And I mean piss poor. Now they spray it literally like anything else they spray and pray they dump 10 in you know 10 15 20 25 30 35 rounds to get a hit on target or two hits on target out of the bunch And it varies from marks may individual to individual as far as in adrenaline rush performance training all the other fun stuff So again when they had revolvers they had a tendency to screw it into the target and actually make an effort to try and hit something And so the number of rounds consumed to the number of hits provided was very different from what we see now with the automatics. Another nice thing is because you might be in a rumble-tuffle kind of thing, the revolver is a much more sensible gun in that respect and it's point and click. You don't have any other second or third motions to make. It's reach for the gun, point, shove it into the gut, pull the trigger. Even if you didn't block back the hammer just pull the trigger. It's a double action revolver. Boom Wow, it's like a flash dagger. Yeah, that's what guns are. They're really projected daggers. So anyway One of the things that we have to think about here and with case production is how many different ways can we produce and how many different sources of material are out there? Now this sounds really weird, but plastic has already been done In fact, let me point something out. How many of you bought any of those Imperial 12 gauge all plastic shot shells that were around back in the 90s? Now, I don't know why they disappeared except, well, maybe this reason. Originally, they were standard load shells. Now, what we did with them is we would use them on the range for live fire. Boom, boom, boom. And these were 100% plastic hulls. There was no metal base, no short brass, no high brass, no brass. Well, how did they work? Well, they worked just fine. They actually functioned flawlessly. But I would remind you, they were a standard load. If you try to do a Magnum load with them, what would happen is as you fire, the first round would be very, quite significantly hot. The second round, which by the way that heat would be retained in the chamber of like a pump shotgun, I've seen this personally, okay. The second round when they would fire, they would eject it and the round would be a little soft. You can see that when it hit the ground, it distorted a little bit. Well, the third, fourth, and fifth rounds with a magnum load or hot load or an overcharged load. The rounds literally would by the third round would be coming out like taffy They would be stretching they would eject But they were dropping to the ground and literally were going flat the third four, you know from the third fourth and the fifth round Third like I said would be slightly distorted. This is with rapid fire now with standard load. We didn't have this problem And also, we're using again one of the several shotgun magnum primers, you know, forgive me, magnum powders. Yes, they did have shotgun magnum powder primers too, but we were using hot primers using standard cheapest primer possible because we're trying to make cheap load and shoot more. So the big difference was that when they were experimenting with this, the guys, you know, decided as I said, leave it standard, let's use these. for as long as we can. And interestingly enough, so they decided to experiment, which is okay. It was their money, but literally the shells would putty out on the ground. Now, you couldn't sustain fire like that. Eventually what's going to happen is you're going to heat it up. The case is going to heat up even if you're operating very quickly. What's going to happen is that at some point one of those rounds are going to taffy out inside the chamber. you're going to pull part of it out, part of it's going to stay somewhere in the channel and the next round going in isn't going to clear it out. Okay, first of all the problem is it might actually start to cool and these polymers, remember they've got a thermal benchmark where they finally become malleable but when they come down in temperature very quickly whatever the distortion shape is that's what it's saying, it's not going back. You know, does it, oh it's going to return back to its original shape like a bungee cord? No, it doesn't. It's pretty nasty, pretty messy. So the big thing was probably that too many people, I would assume, probably were, you know, doing the hot loads because everybody loves to play Dirty Harry. It's the most powerful 25 automatic in the world. It's the most powerful 30-H, it's the most powerful, you know, fill in the blank. And that includes shotgun shells. So if you stay medium, you can shoot more, you can shoot all day, everybody gets a chance to reuse, reuse, reuse. With the plastic shells, the only consideration would be using other plastics. Remember that most of the time, any of these companies that are making shot shells, anything, I don't care what shell it is, if it's 22 in shotgun though, those are the two cheapest. Yeah, you can spend more money and get a better shotgun shell. But the average field grade shell is cheapest of everything in terms of shot shells. The same is true with 22. Base 22 is the absolute cheapest powder, simplest material for the case, and pure lead. Some cases may be lead with a little bit of carbon or lead and a little bit of tin and antimony, but they're so small, maybe a bleed over from some other lot of lead that they had to use because they didn't have what they normally would run through the molds. But again, in this case with shot shells, going from one extreme to the other, polymer, all the way up to, remember, originally all shotgun shells were brass full case. And then they started experimenting or coming up with better solutions and paper hull with a brass shoulder was very common. And there's still paper cases out there. They really aren't obsolete and they're no worse to aware than any of the plastic shells. But plastic has become dominant because polymers, because of the preponderance of POL, petroleum oil lubricant products, plastic chip has gone down more and more in price over the decades, it did. And also different polymers were experimented with. You can use different plastic. Remember it has to be somewhat malleable. And if you look at a shotgun shell in the way it's corrugated, there's a reason for that. To help create strength with regard to the shell molding, but also to help to break the adhesion with the side of the chamber once the shell is fired. So those rails, those little ribs work as a kind of like a slick sliding device. And not all of the shell case is binding when the expansion of the case takes place. It's not binding, not 100% of the surface. In reality, only about 50% of the surface of the shell is actually making contact with the chamber and the tube of the barrel. Okay? When you go brass, it's 100% connection. There's no corrugation. So but the good thing is this dissimilar material the brass is malleable it slides well, and it kind of lubricates. That's really what the whole thing about the softer metals. It's kind of like a self-lubricating, you know, machine. Not in not that the level you're thinking like dripping oil or grease or anything like that. Guys, this is why certain metals are used because whatever it is that is going into a steel fitted sleeve or piece of equipment that is more valuable. The less valuable component, which may also be perishable, is always made of a lesser softer metal because that's the expendable component. The weapon is not. So again, now another thing about polymer. One of the things we experimented with is PVC. Years ago using this PVC pipe. And that could be done, but the big thing is, again, coming up with a, you have to have a steel tube. And you could probably go with, oh, wait a minute, black powder charge, pyro decks, or you could go with a very, very light charge and other light projectiles so that you would create ultra low pressure or low pressure with medium velocity projectiles. One of the main things that would work well would be glass marbles. actually quite hellacious if you pre-fracture them, you know, smack them with a hammer, take the shards, put them inside, load that up inside the cup wad, if you're going to use a cup wad, and when it goes down range, you know, for intermediate to short range, it would be hellacious. And again, that's an improvised, you know, load, something where you're trying to figure out what can I put in here that is going to be lighter but consistent in terms of its pattern and proportional damage to the target. The barbell would be pretty badass intact if they had fractured after they hit though. Right, depending on how they were made. Barbells are pretty resilient. It's amazing if they're intact though, you see. The sphere is actually a pretty strong object. So that's the only thing about it. There's a lot of other things that you can use. The big thing is you want to try and drop the weight of the charge if you were using polymers, if you're using plastics, because again, you're not going to be able to put as much energy on the case without possibly the plastic fracturing. When we experimented with making PVC cases back in the late 70s, I did it then, what we came up with was kind of like a mimic of a, where the chamber, like on the Black Powder Gatling guns. What we did is we took a PVC, piece of PVC pipe. We took a screw-on cap, what we did is we threaded the plastic pipe, but it wasn't really being done back then, it just glued together normally. Although higher end plastic pipe was in laboratory use. We weren't looking for that. We were looking for chintz cheap. So what we did is we made a pipe barrel with a locking cam. And what we did is we filed down the cap that we glued or screwed to the other PVC pipe that fit inside the internal dimension of the pipe. And what you could do is, what you did is you actually took the whole plastic PVC cartridge and the cap plugged it into the end of the barrel. Now the hammer was kind of like almost like it would be like a mega death exposed hammer single barrel shotgun but what the way this worked is that the hammer struck the head of course a center Smith & Wesson Model 10 type firing pin It was exposed, no safety strike, other than just don't pull the trigger. We did have a crossbar. We could put a piece of rod in there for a safety. It would keep everything locked no matter what because the sear was sensitive. But the idea was that you could take this individual cartridge, plug it in. In this case, we were using number 6 BB, and then we also experimented with using ball bearings that we got from one of the plants over in Belleville, Michigan. We could get five gallon pails of small shot mix type. Anyway, we loaded it up with a cardboard wad, pulled the trigger from a distance with a lanyard and everything held together. So then we tried a little heavier charge and repeated this with five, I always do it in five rounds by the way, make five rounds, put them together and we fired them all. and we had no fractures, no breaks, the barrel, the water pipe barrel didn't explode. Everything did what it was supposed to do. And it was in a stock that we made from a crummy K98 Mausert. Somebody had chopped all the pieces and then got frustrated with them and bought the stock for a dollar at the Uron Valley Gun Collectors Association show. So we had everything put together and then we put five more rounds together and we popped the primers. used the exact same cases. We increased the charge by 20%. In this case, we were using Pyrotex initially, but we were using a standard primer, shotgun rifle primer, type primer that could go right in the base of the PVC cap. It would plug right in. And pull the trigger again in five rounds. The barrel didn't explode. The base case did not rupture in the back. We did not have any fractures of the PVC pipe. And amazingly enough, it works. So the next step was, well, what if we make a projectile? It says doing shotgun-type shells. And so what we did is we went with aluminum drill, or aluminum, forgive me, aluminum aircraft rod. And what we did, we bought a mid-grade aircraft rod, took it over to a lathe, and made our own projectile. Lightweight. actually quite non-frangible. In other words, this was actually a really mean dart. And I'll explain why we went to aluminum in a minute here. So anyway, we put it all together, loaded five shells, and every one of those buggers printed at 25 yards on a screw-tight bench that we made with vices. Fired each round one at a time. We had no significant cup pressure issues. And we put a lump together of five rounds that covered an area about the size of, oh, I'd say a toilet paper roll. You know, like the circular end, not the white end people. The circular hole of a toilet paper, about that. Not bad for a crude barrel with no rifling at 25 yards. And why did you do aluminum? Well, back when we were doing this, the big push by the anti-gun people is that they were going to ban all of your bullets. And they were saying that we couldn't use any kind of material other than aluminum. And that's when we laughed our ass off because if you know anything about what can be done with the higher grades of aluminum, you'll wish to God we went back to lead and went back to FMJ, full metal jacket copper. And so immediately we started experimenting with aluminum bullets on a massive scale. And in this case, we went with a spire point, we made it a spitzer flat base projectile at the base, we cupped the base so that it actually had a pan strike striking surface, kind of like the on a wadcutter. If you look at the base of a wadcutter. and it actually had pretty good performance. We didn't put any sights on it, although we eventually did. We just put a couple of crude iron sights off a Model 1896 Mauser. We kind of strapped those with a couple of... Oh, come on, what did we use? They were hose clamps. And so we made a couple of flanges and we hose clamped it to the barrel. And everything worked just fine, so telling me that you can't make a gun out of a slider with a sparsity shell and throw the plumbing available? Ah, well, this is just to get around the idea of how can we get to that aluminum bullet to make that aluminum bullet penetrate anything we want. They're just for the fun of it. Remember, this is America, this is blow-strum, or America, where you can be creative and have fun in the process and shoot things. And then shoot things that you don't like, a lot. Anyway, we are going to go to break here with the cops. God bless the republic. Guests of the New World Order. The shelter they're letting the gentlemen and the empires out there are. A new era on the march both day and night. They probably wondered what the rights will look like. But the time we were done it looked like a Japanese machine gun. We had this spooky stock coming out the back that we had to modify. We had the barrel sitting real high. We had a hammer and a rotary on the side. Suddenly had carpets made out of plastic. We'll be back in about 2 or 3 or 4. I remember a teacher that I had. Now I only, I went through the seventh grade. I went through the seventh grade. I left home when I was 10 years old because I was hungry. I used to do this. I work in the summer and I go to school in the winter. But I had this one teacher, it was the principal of the Harrison School in Winstan, Indiana. To me, this was the greatest teacher, a real sage of my time, anyhow. He had such wisdom. And we were all reciting the Pledge of Allegiance one day. And he walked over, this little old teacher, Mr. Laswell, what's his name? Mr. Laswell, this is, he says, I've been listening to you boys and girls recite the Pledge of Allegiance all semester. And it seems as though it's becoming monotonous to you. If I may, may I recite it and try to explain to you the meaning of each word. I, me, an individual, a committee of one, pledge, dedicate all of my worldly goods to give without self-pity, allegiance, my love and my devotion, to the flag, our standard, O glory, a symbol of freedom. Wherever she waves, there's respect. Because your loyalty has given her a dignity that shouts freedom is everybody's job United that means that we have all come together States Individual communities that have united into 48 great states 48 individual communities with pride and dignity and purpose all divided with imaginary boundaries yet united to a common purpose and That's love for country and to the Republic Republic a state in which sovereign power is invested in representative chosen by the people to govern and Government is the people and it's from the people to the leaders not from the leaders to the people for which it stands one nation one nation meaning so blessed by God indivisible incapable of being divided With liberty, which is freedom, the right of power to live one's own life without threats, fear, or some sort of retaliation. And justice, the principle or qualities of dealing fairly with others, for all. Which means, boys and girls, it's as much your country as it is mine. And now, boys and girls, let me hear you recite. the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country and two words have been added to the Pledge of Allegiance under God. Wouldn't it be a pity If someone said that is a prayer and that would be eliminated from schools too. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free, the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. This number, you trade it in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children will be. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave. O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and eat God's given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave is this still the land of the free turn from the mistakes of others You won't live long enough to make them all yourself Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. This is the second hour of the afternoon intelligence report. I'm our currently one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories, east, west, south, and northwest. Ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com and many other options with regard to technology. The time, 6.11 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, it is Weapons Wednesday, this is the 6th of October. It is the 13th year of open Fabian socialist and Soviet socialist occupation. of America with a K 2021 old earth calendar, 2021 battle for the Republic, the dance of swords. And the battle has already begun. It's just well, different scattered skirmishes here and there cascading and escalating into the first benchmark event, the kickoff, whatever you want to call it. And we need to be prepared for that. And we also need to have solutions for again, either replacing or supplementing material support across the system. Now, when I talked about building cases, the idea behind building rifle cases or pistol cases is to keep existing systems that are already organically available functioning. We also need to look at alternatives for producing other sophisticated or less sophisticated weapon systems. When I talk about using the plastic case, the idea was to show that it could be done And again, remember, as long as you stay within what are middle tolerances or even press back and drop down below middle of the road loadings for particular types of cases and calibers, you can pretty much indefinitely reload the case that's being used. Now this should be a consideration, as I've said many times here, for training purposes. You have a lot of people who have no familiarity with the firearm whatsoever. My personal attitude, Airsoft, Airsoft, Airsoft, Airsoft, Airsoft, and by the way, Airsoft. And do you have an Airsoft for training your people? You should have a bunch of them. Why? Well, you can't probably kill someone with an Airsoft, but you can find any model of Airsoft that fits or matches pretty close, if not exactly, to the model weapon that you are planning on using or at least trying to train someone to use if they have no familiarity. The big advantage is cost in training also safety so those two factors for especially inexperienced shooters is kind of a premium. Airsoft, Airsoft, Airsoft, Airsoft. You can go to airsoftgi.com, airsoft, airsoftstation.com. Both are run by younger kids. They've done a pretty good job of staying in business. airsoftgi.com. airsoftgi.com. More on them in a minute. And Airsoft Station. However, once we get past the initial familiarization with either dysfunctional or non-functional training aids, then we graduate to the Airsoft weapons. And from the Airsoft training aids, we move to live fire. When we move to live fire, we want to work with a less lesser Pressured round Quiet around if at all possible, that's not critical as far as I'm concerned, but some people consider it The idea here is that the individual is allowed to work into regular performance weapons But the other consideration is cost in reloading if we're going to shoot shoot reloads If you're going to shoot for especially a familiarization, initial familiarization, reloads. And the individual has to be explained to them that yes, you can shoot today, but everything that you shoot, you will then be reloading. So we killed two birds with one stone or in this case one bullet. We get both the experience on the rifle all range fire is good range fire I don't care what it is just like pilots any pilot will tell you all stick time is good time It doesn't make any difference what you're flying all stick time is good time all Range time is good time. It's what you make of it as an adult Not as it we're not someone with a childish mind We're not looking for entertainment. We are looking for performance. We are improving performance. We are developing skills. You can play later. Right now, the big thing is step by step by step developing and again, bringing a person to the highest level that we can with the limit we have in terms of a combination of consumables that can actually be used. And not only that, but availability of components. No matter what we do, if we fire a live shell, we lose the projectile to a degree in its finished form. We're going to recover that bullet if it's in an impact area. We're going to recast it later. Any lead projectile that goes down range rifle or pistol, no matter what it is in slugs with shotguns and even larger pellets can be recovered. You rate them, separate them, rate them, and recast them. You separate them because The tin and antimony combination with lead core with say jacketed rounds is different from soft point rounds if they even have any tin or antimony in them depending on the manufacturer which is why you need to do a little research. If you can keep your basic slag bullets that you pull from the range into their separate categories Then you don't have to worry about doing a an alloy mix to get better performance with the projectiles now one of the thing when you're when you're slide casting is Obviously everything's gonna get mixed up anyway So if you had some 10 and an ammonia in with your lead you're gonna end up with a frangibility Factor you're you're gonna you're gonna firm up that lead one way or another Pure lead is soft. It distorts nicely. If that's what you're looking for, if that's what you want, lead distorts quite nicely on itself when it hits something that's resilient, especially bones. It has density to flatten out quite nicely on people, but it flattens out only to a certain degree. It's when it hits a rigid object inside flesh, and muscle that it usually really demonstrates why the lead's not a happy camper when you get hit by it. Now, what you're doing with the tin and the anemone is actually firming up and guaranteeing that there will be a more uniform distribution and a stiffening of the projectile, which all of this is part of the physics of developing a more efficient and accurate projectile, especially for range, extreme range. because of lead, because lead by itself, although it always is going to be affected by calorie buildup, lead by itself will become soft, will become malleable. If you create an alloy, the tin and the antimony help to firm up the lead so that even when you have thermal transfer taking place with rapid fire, you have less of a destabilization of the malleable material that's inside the jacket or that makes up the projectile itself. Now this sounds weird, but let me point something out. You already know that you can't use a lead bullet for high velocity long range shooting, right? Why? Well, you pull the trigger and you put that bullet downrange at those higher velocities and the bullet becomes molten in flight. What? Well, sure. What happens is air resistance. Something as simple as air resistance. Now you think about that. Which is why they came up with jacketed bullets, which still of course they need to make them cheap. So rather than it being a solid, more expensive material, it's a jacketed round with lead course, so you have significant weight. And you also get distortion at the other end to a degree, depending on how you build the bullet. If it's an FMJ, it's not going to distort so much. If you're going to make it a micro soft point, or if you're going to make it a broad-face soft point, you get a lot of distortion, don't you? Now, the only problem with both of those, well, with one, is if it is a broad-face soft point, you're still going to have the same issues if you try to drive that bullet to higher velocities. Simple air resistance will literally turn the bullet malleable, turn it molten. And, you know, with the higher the velocity, the sooner the bullet melts, so to speak, the bullet becomes destabilized. What happens is this forms in flight and your point of impact is not guaranteed. In some cases, your bullet point of impact won't even exist, depending on what you've done. So this is why, again, there are a number of different things that you need to study about the development of bullets and projectiles for the different aspects of shooting. What are you going to be doing with the gun? What's its intent? What is its potential? These are all parts of the math formula for determining how and what you can build and put together. Point, if I were looking at trying to build bullets down the road for a certain number of guns, I wouldn't even bother with the lead core. I'd be probably working with a a tin or probably would be tin because tins actually not as commonly available nor is it cheap. But I'd be looking at an alloyed soft metal as in steel that would be in a low grade that could be extruded or cast or milled off of rod and we'd be using a solid projectile but it'd be softer than the steel that makes up the internal components of the barrel, the rifling of the barrel. And so it would be, it would not wear the rifling down, the lands, grooves, and the crown as quickly. Okay, which is, these are all parts of the formula for building bullets from scratch. Now, anybody who knows about 50 caliber development, Don Betcher, of course, before he passed away for many years, participated in a lot of the 50 caliber shooter association events. Edward actually went with him to at least a couple. And I would remind you that it was progressively known that the different bullet ideas that they came up with were, well, they were great ideas, but unfortunately when you have a very expensive barrel and some of the bullets you've come up with wear the rifling down very quickly which degrades the accuracy of the gun, which is a bit of a problem because you're thinking you're going to be shooting at a thousand or fifteen hundred or seventeen hundred yards. degradation of the barrel is a significant consideration because you can only use, if you can only use a barrel for three, four hundred rounds and you've destroyed its ability to keep a tight solid, you know, point of contact, it defeats the purpose behind why you built the gun in the first place and why you came up with that bullet. It's not beneficial. So this is where experimenting with a lot of metals and gee, they went right back to copper pretty quick. There are brass projectiles out there too, by the way. And there's a number of other bullets that have been developed using other dissimilar metals, but again, still unique alloys that are quite successful. What you do is you peruse the products that are out there for other applications all through the industry. An experiment. See, when somebody else has come up with a basic dimension, you take the rod or the stock, put it into a lathe. You generate, you know, you cut a bullet to your spec, typically a Sierra Boattail, but it doesn't have to be. It can be an elongated Sierra Boattail. It can also be what is basically a beveled spitzer. The base is slightly beveled, but it only has a small edge or ledge to it. That's a little bit of a taper at the back. but it's still a spitzer. Anything and everything has been done at one point or another and I'm sure there's still experimenting going on right now. There are some fascinating things that can be done with the bullets in terms of machining. I mean, since you're going to go with solid copper or you're going with a solid material in which you can even striate or you can rib the projectile. something you don't talk much about. And there's a reason for that because if you can help to stabilize with the spin, the projectile that much more efficiently with a turbine type cut to the bullet itself, you're probably going to get it to settle sooner on what it basically is, its optimal performance range. Alright, so it's probably mid performance range and it would stay settled for a longer period of time because to a degree it would be self stabilizing. But we have to work out the math and the physics on that, depends on the weight of the bullet type of material and what barrel are you shooting it out of. These are all parts of the formula. So again, we're low and crude. I like low and on the crude end because we're trying to get mass out there. I want 20 people to aim at one target, blow it out of its boots. If I can't, if nothing else, we're just going to decimate them by the idea that everybody see that one there that's pointing at everybody or the one with the coffee cup way back there. All you guys with the long range single shot weapons, I want you to cut his legs off, take his shoulder off. Yeah, if you want to take his head off too, but you know, just put a bullet in his torso. Everybody all at once here, on my mark, 20 rounds and boom, there we go, 18 hit him. I think that was enough. Remember, we need to rethink our hunting practices in a battlefield where there's a lot of different technology rolling around out there. And accuracy, accuracy, accuracy is far more fearful, especially when it is demonstrated in repetition, nauseous repetition, as opposed to volume, fire, and spray and pray. In fact, you'll let the enemy bottom fire and spray and pray because they diminish their combat load very quickly. So the idea is to create conditions that force them to believe that that is the solution. When you are dealing with small unit operations, remember, no man is, there's not a video game. They can't pull the ammunition out of their arse. Or reach over your back and there's another 500 rounds. It doesn't work that way. And by the way, have you ever carried 500 rounds? How far have you carried it? Okay, heads up on that one by the way. Yes, I have carried 500 rounds and it's very very heavy especially with 3LA. Exactly, so here again if you can get your enemy to consume and this is part of the dance of swords, if you can get your enemy to start consuming their combat load prematurely and eat it up, When you choose to engage with significant force, you have virtual control of that short smaller battlefield. And in turn, if this process is perfected by all of you who are thinking about playing in this game, then each time that you fight the aggressor, you can completely change the balance of the battlefield. And one of the most important things to remember, if you can engage farther, let me help you to understand something that was part of the philosophy of the main battle rifle versus the assault rifle. Why initially we didn't change out. We had the Garand in service and oh, oh my God, we went to the M14, yucky, yucky, yucky. Well, let's understand something. We had a heavier bullet, or at least a comparable bullet. out of a weapon that could reach farther in situations where you could see farther to begin with. The biggest problem with being an assault type element and using an assault type weapon is that you were going to carry lots and lots of ammo and you were going to hose down an area and hopefully the other guy wasn't going to figure out how to hit you before you hosed everything down enough. So the MBRs with their more refined inventory of ammunition and options Not the least of which was to include rifle grenade potential, and everybody seems to forget that. Which everybody had by the time we get to the 50s, the AK could do it, the SKS could do it, the FNFL, G3, HK, any of the HK rifles, all of the US weapons. Pretty much, again, had the option to go from even damaging or engaging in doing damage in a multi-anti-tank role between the infantry and the infantry's many weapons available, you could do a lot of significant damage at intermediate and long range before the aggressor got within what was considered to be the optimal volume fire range, where volume fire could actually commit to suppression. Think about that. Tank riders are cool, but tank riders have a life expectancy of about, you know, what, 17 minutes if they're lucky. They argue it was, what was it, 11? Tank riders, you know, Russian tank riders. Everybody goes, well, yeah, look at these massive troops. And we know this is why they came up with that term, organic sandbag, because the Germans had a tendency to engage at greater range with greater accuracy. And so their mission was to rake the tank riders off of the armor. And if they kind of fell sideways and under the tracks, all the better or straightforward, or maybe they at least cluttered up the turrets, causing more problems than they were worth, they don't talk about that though. The biggest thing was making sure that they got the munitions where they needed it. When the Germans had to deal with this threat, the biggest problem was supply from the rear. Now, since we can, if we sit down and evaluate all of these different ideas, by the way, I'm not expecting American forces to play tank rider. Everybody who's familiar with US military forces know that we ride inside our armor until we get to where we need to go and then we dismount, etc. Many of you served in the military, so you know the techniques that are probably going to be applied there. However, the Chinese and other countries still embrace a lot of unique ideas. Although they prefer to ride inside, they can be used as... The blacks who did most still do the ride on the armor, don't they, Mark? Huh don't they come in about the black suited moose don't they come in about eight or ten on a on a oh? Hang on the side of a vehicle. Yeah, it's the Russian tank rider syndrome in as long Yeah, as long as they keep doing something stupid like that We don't want them to stop and the reason I say that is because the first time that We have to get rid of them you want to if you want to exterminate everybody The best thing is if they're hanging on the side of that vehicle think about this You see it all the time. You know, they're hanging on the side. There's, you know, there's eight on one side, eight on the other, and they got a little bar. And they're driving along at 25 miles an hour. Now, that doesn't seem like fast. But you know, if you shoot somebody off that and their limp and they fall down beside and under the vehicle, the vehicle does more harm than probably the bullet did. Crunch, crunch, break, crunch. But, you know, also stumbling, you know, getting hit like the groin or getting hit the shoulder, you know, having the disc, you know, release because you can't just, it's a reaction. Your body just goes out. And then stumbling off that, rolling along at 25 miles an hour like a bag of rags or faster. You know, I'm hoping they won't change that because I'd rake that. That would be policy in an ambush. It is already our policy, but I would prioritize raking those vehicles. with fire. It's one of the few times again where it'd be like, okay, have your, understand what your cone of fire is. Fire, you know, lead to the front of the vehicle and understand what the velocity of the vehicle is and then just hose that side of the vehicle down. Everybody gets a bullet. And what would happen is you literally before they even broke and broke into a contact situation because of this really cool idea that they thought was a cool idea. If you kill every one of the bastards that's in that group, they're not going to be able to tell anybody else what happened. And the practice will continue for a period of time until somebody figures out what's going on. Which is why when you engage a unit like that, you move all the bodies. If you had a bat faggot unit or again, a secret police unit, and they're using the external mounted technique where again, they're standing on these running rails, Guys, that is a perfect scenario for... It's basically like a train wreck in demolitions. Why do you use a bridge as a demolition point for going after a train? Or anything for that matter. Because the bridge in and of itself, obviously, that you've done damage to the infrastructure, But yeah, you might catch the train and the explosion, maybe the engine. But what's going to happen is the forward momentum combined with gravity sucks, creates a whole lot of other kinetic energy damage that compounds whatever your meager explosive would have done. And the same is true if you're raking infantry off the secret police in black uniforms off the side of these quote-unquote, SWAT buggies. Because if they're standing there off to the side, they're not hooked up. They don't have any safety rigs. Their logic is it's a way for them to get in fast and do a speed rush. But if you're smart, you're not going to give them the chance to deploy at their discretion. You're going to ambush them, preferably in the optimal just short of the what's the FIBA where they get to kick off. They're all up to speed and then you blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub, blub So crunch, crunch, crunch, it's not going to notice the organic sandbags under its wheels. The kinetic damage from the falls and injuries that develop because of that are just like that, you know, attacking the train bridge, which is why it's the optimal condition. But you want to, you have to wipe the bastards out. You got to, you don't let the vehicle get away. You got to make sure that that doesn't happen. Because what's going to be, what's going to happen is somebody's going to report what transpired. And then they're going to change tactics. And you don't want them to change tactics. So, number one, exterminate the entire unit. Number two, upon extermination, your policy is to change the battlefield condition in terms of evaluation. The bodies all need to be moved. The vehicles all need to be dispersed. Murd them somewhere else if you want to. If you're going to keep them, keep them. But remember, it depends. Are you in an unconventional, paraconventional, or conventional environment? In each case, there are different ways that you deal with the material and equipment that you can't carry away. And in this case, again, if you can't carry it away, don't burn it in place where you've got bodies laying all over the... What would happen is this. I'm coming in. I'm an evaluator. Wow, the whole unit got wiped out. Yeah, let's go check it out. Okay, don't let them move anything. Everything freezes. Remember, I got to see this. And so what you'd have is this snail trail of bodies, you know, the vehicles burned out. And you map it back and you can see where there's a snail trail of corpses. that trickle off the side of the vehicle like leaves falling off a dead tree. Okay? And you could go back and go, okay, this is where the first hit took place, this is where they started falling off, and here's where they finally knocked the vehicle out. Or chose to knock the vehicle out. So you don't necessarily want to knock the vehicle out right away if you want to kill off the infantry and make sure that what they're doing helps to get rid of them. In this case, the secret police coming to confiscate guns, the secret police coming to enforce whatever, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, who cares? By that point, these commies are all, if they're in a black uniform, they're commies. I've said that for years anyway. They all bought into this stinking black uniform, black cars, black SUVs, black helicopters, and, oh, you can't talk about black helicopters. This is all stuff we've seen firsthand. Only an idiot or a fool would challenge it, but there are a lot of idiots and fools. or Dunderhead's licking butter the other side. But anyway, the fact is that you want to make sure that they can't determine what happened. Let nothing but a rumor of their destruction return to where they came from. Now, the other thing about that, this is why cameras all need to be recovered and destroyed. You might want to check them out. You could be some early footage that's worth looking into because it might mention names, might give the names or locations of people that sent them. They're yapping back and forth. There's conversations picked up. But all cameras and all electronic information base that was recording needs to be stripped, nothing else. Although weapons, munitions. pyrotechnics, everything that can be recovered should be armor if possible, but again, this is a matter of prioritization based upon what may be a time factor from, you know, again, knocking the enemy down to stripping them. But if you change and alter the condition of the aftermath of the battle, then you do not provide viable corrective intelligence for the enemy and they will act as they have acted giving you an option to be able to perform the same procedure over and over again, but only for a period of time. Eventually, they'll get done. And if you leave a bunch of party supplies around, you'll get them all having the question marks over the top of their heads. Yep, exactly. Well, this is where, and again guys, the variations on the theme and how you deal with the objective, the target, the aggressor, forgive me, which is the objective. In this case, you're the defender, they're the offensive force. The offensive force's military potential is the objective in your case. That is the objective. What's the objective? Well, see that mobility force there? That's the objective. Now we have to figure out how to terminate it. Exterminate it actually. We're going to terminate its potential to do damage, but we must exterminate the unit. Let nothing but a rumor of their destruction. Oh, we're gonna let one guy go back. No, you don't he'd tell everybody what happened But a bit of it a bit of it. He was almost over the ridge. But yeah, there's two halves of it that one went that way that was lower the upper went the other way he made it over the red Bum bum bum bum bum bum. Hey mark. No, he didn't go ahead call. You've been there. I'm just a quick question for 308 Main battle rifles or like designated marksman rifle combat loads. What is a good compromise between weight and speed if physical fitness is out of the pick is out is Not being discussed if one can physically carry it What is a good combat load for the 308 main battle rifles when one has drums 25 rounders 20 rounders all that type of steel Well, we still, okay, ideally 23 magazines are what we look at as the combat base load, 23 to 27. And when I say this, I'll remind you again, we have our battle bags or drop bags that would be carrying your additional magazine, your basic magazine combat load myself, for instance. If I carry an M14, an M18, I carry six magazines on each side of the center of mass and with that I still carry on my Fanny pack I have a stitched single marine magazine pouch the type I was talking about that they made back in the Well, they made during Vietnam, but they actually started making them back in the 50s I copied that off of what the Brits used to do with the FN FAL where they placed single magazine pouches all over their web gear. I think it was the TA58 rig. If you can still find them out there and you can copy them. But where I decided to carry the six, number one, I'm a big guy. I'm not an overly heavy weight guy, but I'm big bone, okay? I'm good size. So the good thing is I got a little more space to work with. I went with six basically mimicking the BAR belt and then I go two, two, and two on the left, two, two, and two on the right. I still have enough room for the shovel cover to the rear, my M 1956 type with the angled bayonet hanger. And I use the standard fanny pack to the rear, M 1956, you know, what we call butt pack, three day pack, fanny pack, take your pick. mount two canteens to either side of the fanny pack which takes them off the belt and You still have room for whatever you want to do for a pistol hanger or whatever else on the on the rig now with the Air Force models that we just got I built up an m14 kit that has two magazine pouches to the bottom of the rig and One magazine pouch up above it. So it's kind of like the British triangular pattern or the US Bernada 5.56 pouches. But the minimal would be, say, for your combat rig is 12 magazines. And you can distribute that however you want for a .308. Now, needless to say, with a rifle or a marksman, you can pare that down a little, but your assistant gunner is carrying more stuff and should be carrying more ammunition for both of you. Now, that doesn't mean that you shovel it off to some, you know, like, you don't treat the guy like they're coolly. But if it's a placement or a marksman, and in other words a sniper, and you're focusing on range and marksmanship, then you can take some of the burden off that rifleman, and it should be still carried or should be available because you may have to switch over to volume fire or defensive fire very, very quickly. Still, your accuracy is superior to spray and praise, so... If you put the guy down that thought he was going to hose you down, he's out of the picture pretty quick. So the idea is stay calm, stay focused, and put the bullet on it. But otherwise, NATO, you know what's funny? Okay, look at the combat, basic combat kit, which by the way, we can buy all this stuff now. Take a look at what the Germans did. They had basically two slab mag pouches side by side. That was 20 rounds, or that would be 40 rounds on the left. 40 rounds on the right and then they you could usually the Germans themselves would snick a few extra pouches or make up some by cutting one of the mag pockets in half and they'd add another slab mag on the left or the right to make it six. You know it's kind of like but it'd be instead of it wouldn't be double mag pouches. If you look the German leather ones for the FN FAL or the polyplastic ones for the G3 and the FN FAL were always two mag pockets. And they were single mag pockets. Then they went one to the left, one to the right, right off the suspenders. And that was basically their combat load. So you were looking at 80 rounds plus whatever supplemental bandolier ammunition you could carry. And then the idea was that you were going to reload mags or hopefully someone's going to chuck some more mags at you when the time comes. I consider that kind of light and I expect, you know, again, we are still going to probably use more ammo. We also have to project because we're Minutemen and we are more like an airborne unit. What we carry, you know, going in is all we got is all we got maybe. So I prefer heavy over light. I can always shuck stuff. I can always take my utility bags. Let's say I go into an area. We've talked about this before. Like you said, we're not all perfect. We're not as young or healthy as we used to be. I would carry the extra shoulder bags with the extra mags constituting my 27 mags total. I would drop those somewhere either maybe at a control point or a cache if I'm going, if I'm unconventional, which I've done many, many times. And we go in to support a unit, I would carry a lot of extra equipment in, but we would cache it away from what we consider the forward edge of the battle area. And then we move in with our full combat, our still heavy combat load and prepare to support the unit or people, the house or farm or what that was under, you know, under siege or under projected, you know, attack. Something was going on. They were threatening them. So you can always drop stuff when you get in the field, but you can't sprout it out of your hind end. So there's where the balance, that's really the issue. Again, how much How many times do you think you're going to pull the trigger? Well, I figure I'm going to be doing it a lot. I mean, even if I maintain control, I understand how quickly that 20 round mag empties. So better to have extra along and drop it and cash it. Or, you know, here's another example. If I'm projecting my strength and I'm going to be, let's say we're going to be doing what is a defense in depth, let's say we're not attacking. But I have to deploy and we know that we're not going to hold this piece of real estate. If I know that I'm going to be falling back to a position, then as you would normally do with a defense in depth, you leave a percentage of your loaded magazines or ammunition in your second, third, and fourth fallback points. Especially if it's some kind of extraction where you're going in to help a unit out, that is in trouble and they're not planning on holding the piece of real estate where they are, we're just trying to extract and save manpower. We're trying to conserve our fighting force. So what we would do is deploy, we would determine very quickly whoever the straw boss is, where we need to drop the equipment. And to do this, we don't pile it all up in one place. We disperse it with the understanding that we're moving forward to a supporting firing position. Once we've extracted the unit and we have provided the support to give them the ability to fall back, as they fall back through our positions and move to the rear with their wounded and or other non-combatants, we then fall back to our second, then our third, and then our fourth fighting positions, rolling up our munitions as we go, or consuming them if we're in contact. Go ahead. I'm sorry, I heard a voice. Okay. Anyway, one of the big things here again is, the point is, how much can you carry? Well, we just joked earlier about 500 rounds, but I know somebody's listening who did it once and I mean, actually ran through the whole course. He ran through the whole course of the day with 500 rounds on his person in 7.62x51 NATO. When he got to the end of the event though, it's actually on film. I have this on film. He got to the demarcation point where he was finished and it was kind of like in platoon where the one sergeant was getting raped by the Viet Cong. He put his arms in the air and he flopped forward at the finish line. But I will say this for him, by God he carried that 500 rounds every step of the way. and he did his job but it would be one of those things where if he got to that demarcation at that finish line it's man I got you the 500 rounds and I got my ass here. Ah plop! There we go but that's as far as I'm going. So until you've tried to do it you won't understand but guys it sounds easy. Well I could carry 500 rounds. Sure you can. You could get up in that ammo can and walk it over to the truck. Now we got to move it to in fact even if you had to move it move it just 100 yards and now understand there's a lot more than 100 yards in a mile and That's why there's a whole math formula to move mark support. Go ahead call it jump in there There's another voice before me. He can go ahead. I'm sorry repeat. Yeah, Mark Yeah, Mark. I'm just a question if you had the choice between an FN FFL or a PTR 91 in our future situation. Oh God. What do you think it's scary? Well, you know, that's the problem. I have many FALs and I do. I'm seriously, I have a lot of FALs when they were cheap. Kids were as little as $65 a piece. By God, we built so many of my lost count. I didn't keep all those because I helped to build for, you know, we were all building together. But the FAL in the depending on which configuration which model are phenomenal rifles The problem is that they got pricier and pricier and they become They kind of went out of the the average price range for the regular shooter That you know would would be considering working with the you know with a 308 rifle right now I like the HK It would be a toss-up To be quite honest, for instance, in the South African configured version of the FN FAL, I consider that probably one of the better designs of the bunch. They did a really fine job of tuning the guns up. Fit and finish was good with the kits. And I like the longer flash hider. The longer flash hider just is a good idea. I've got probably, I'd say, just as many finished kits that are in a crowned conventional, you know, banned barrel. Because remember, for a while there were guys, you couldn't have a flash hider on the gun, so the kids came in where the barrels had been, you know, were crowned. Of course they were with many of the designs anyway. They didn't necessarily have a flash hider on them. The bayonet was the flash hider for two or three of the models. As a matter of fact, it had the pickle fork on it. The HK right now, the PTR-91 is as good as any HK that was ever made and I wouldn't have any problem carrying that in a heartbeat. It would just be a matter of what I'd reach for or where I was. If I was at a certain location, it would be a pile of FALs. If I was at another location, it would be a pile of PTR-91 type rifles, but they'd be HKs. because it's not necessarily PTRs that we have sitting around. There was a bunch of other HK knockoffs that came in in the 90s, including some Greek HK knockoffs that really were well made. The problem is they were heavier in sin because they had to put the politically correct thumb hole stocks on them. And when they did that, they went with a very dense polymer. Now, this makes for a very heavy HK 91. Very heavy. But if you're putting a marksman scope on it, it makes for a very very stable platform once you, you know, put the thing into a bipod. If you do everything to dress it up, the gun is actually a tack driver. And the only thing is, here's this, here's the thing. I'd probably be using an M1A. But I have like I said it would depend on where I am. I'm full muscle memory to the HK I think I'd run that all day I like though. I like the way the the weapon functions in terms of to your shoulder You know you get different effects when you pull that when you pull the trigger guys The HK has a longer drawn out Mechanical process only takes a moment it takes longer for you to describe it than it to happen with any of these guns But you feel it you physically How you respond to each of these weapons is kind of interesting and people don't notice it. But having trained a lot of people, thousands and thousands and thousands of people, on live fire on the range, you get a chance to the benefit of being able to see and do a comparative study when all these guns are on the range at the same time. When I was in commanding op-for units, when we did live fire for demonstration and familiarization with groups, again, remember, we would have 50 shooting stations set up, and I would have a pot quarry of anywhere from 40 to 60 different weapons with multiples of those weapons in the ready racks. And an individual, one of the things we did that nobody else did, is I could, you know, we would offer that whatever unit we were training, when it came to the live fire phase, you could pick the weapon that you wanted to actually live fire. And I had a counter coach, and all of my people, all of my men, young and old, were completely familiar with every weapon on the rack. Not mildly familiar, but totally familiar. So when we got to the range, I could put a new shooter up behind an HK-91 or an FN FAL, an M1 Garand, a lapel machine gun, a Lewis gun, you name it, whatever it was, AK-47, VZs, all the Czech guns, because we were Czech. I had a unit that was simulating a Czech airborne unit. So we collected every check weapon we could, including scorpion pistols. And everything that we had, we would provide for training purposes for these units. So I got a chance to actually watch people respond to the FNFAL and the HK91 slash G3 and the M14 simultaneously. And it's rather interesting how people would react to the recoil in operation, how they'd have to body adjust. It's kind of like boxing. Everybody has a style The all three of the guns I love that's the worst part it's like you're asking me to choose between my three favorite girlfriends Now you'd go well mark I want to know who you want as a wife I guess I'd have to have three wives here out this month But if it was a pecking order for performance right now, it'd have to be like I said, M1a HK and then the FL and it's not because the FL is inferior. It's simply because magazines were although there were plenty of them out there it looks like there might be a wave of FAL stuff coming in again a little bit here only because of of Turkey thank God because Turkey is stealing oil from from Syria and working with the Jews okay they could do no wrong and they're bringing in anything they want that's where all this ammunition came from well it looks like we might get some FAL stuff dumped on us from Turkey If that happens, snark it, grab it as quick as you can because Turkey scooped up a lot of German equipment. And what I'm thinking is going to happen here is we're going to end up with a little wave, or maybe not a little wave, of German FNFAL mags, okay, and things like that, maybe even some parts, who knows. But if you do, the German mags are premium. I have no problem using them all day. The problem has been that just they all got eaten up, remember, years ago, and there really aren't a whole lot out there that are left. That's the thing. Everything FAL, everybody that's using it, they love it, and they're running the hell out of it, and they're grabbing more because they're building whole formations. There's a unit down the street, like I said, the doctors. Now, they do have a bunch of FALs, but guys, it's because this is America. I mentioned this many times. You can buy every gun you want and you should. So if you're a doctor, you have money. And if you have money and you would spend it wisely, they literally have examples of most all the stuff we're talking about. And even they've kind of leaned, you know, they love the FAL, but they've leaned toward the PTR because there's just so much more stuff for it for the time being. Go ahead, caller, jump in there, please. I never lifted 500 pounds at 308 but I lifted 250 pounds at 12 gauge and that's pretty heavy. Right, well it's the same thing again. This is why, let me point something out. If we're in the field think airborne infantry. Guys did you ever see the airborne infantry as the tools that they made for airborne? One of the things they made in World War II and they're still kind of around in one version or another are inflatable tire hand carts. Now what were these for? Well, toting all that damn ammo around, guys. So here's a little trick. Watch for the collapsible folding golf caddy carts, you know, golf bag carts. I got three of them. I just moved here before I did the program that I'm starting to modify. They're perfect because they collapse down into a very small package. But when you open them up and you put a flat plate on the bottom and put a couple of little PVC pipes or a couple of aluminum ribs on them, what you've got is an ammunition caddy for ammo cans or equipment for that matter. You can make a bag like if you got a tote bag of something, you take the straps and make them longer where you normally would have the golf bag. And guys, what you have is a disposable infantry caddy. Most of the new new ones, I've got a bunch of the old metal ones, I'm not getting rid of those, they work just fine. I already cambled them up, they're already painted, they're already set up. But the new ones have these, as I've mentioned many times, the new golf bag carts have an extra wide tire so they wouldn't gouge and damage the golf greens. Well, what's really nice about that is it floats on stuff better when you pull it around on the road or on a dirt trail or if you're on a muddy track. So you can afford to drag it a little farther without it beating the hell out of your shoulder when you're trying to put a shoulder strap on and you hang onto the handle and you're pulling it along because it's not, you know, you can make it as heavy as you want with cargo. But the thing is that you also won't cry about throwing it away if it used it if you use it once and you had to discard it It's paid for itself Okay, if you've got to either get something out of an area or move something in an area But here's the thing if you're worth your salt you're already thinking about how to stash it and cash it you have to leave it you got to already have a plan for Making sure that you can secure it someplace and come back for it later On the other hand, you may be moving forward with it, moving right back, and it goes down down the road wherever you can with it. But it's an infantry item. It's for those of you who are going to be on foot. And if you're moving forward, and especially, again, the world would go, we're going to be secret squirrellier than cross country and this and the other, well, then this may not work for you. But if you're traveling and especially for militia who are responding in this up-and-coming conflict, especially in the early stage here, we're going to need tools to be able to get things where they need to be right down to what is called the retail weapons, where the rubber be closed. In those cases I get them for free. I got these last three along the road here two days ago. I'm probably gonna go back and get the golf bags. I didn't realize it, but they were the ones with all the multi-pockets. I got the inside out. We use them to transport the camo net to, you know, the camo net butterflies, guys. We put them right back on one of those carts. We have everything set up and ready to go. We got spare tools and everything in the bags. I'm gonna get a golf bag now. It's the utility cart for other things. Anyway. ideas, you know, solutions, being creative, buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh We're on one ounce rounds. At least a roll of 20. Add on hand with your first roll of treasury. When the time comes, we'll work out how to make things work. But we gotta have the tools and the toolbox. And all of the hands taken over. Hello again and welcome to another dangerous episode of For Good Knowledge. My name is Peg. I am on the roll. Are you warning? Is anybody listening? On October the 6th? I'm on the road, so it's very possible I could be cut off at any time because I'm still traveling actually. Normally I pull off the road and do my first and wherever I pull off on, but in this case I have to keep moving. I've got a very limited time schedule here to deal with, so I'm going to have to keep broadcasting as I move down the road. I am in southern Indiana, and by the time I finish this show I will be in northern Kentucky. On the way, of course, to the not-freaked machine gun shoot, which is this Friday and Saturday, if you're listening on October the 6th. And I hope you can handle it, because I'm on speakerphone and I have a few of my folks still, and so I've got the phone closest to my ear, because of the road noise, I'm hoping everything sounds clear enough to be able to understand what I'm saying. So yeah, so this weekend, not even really the weekend, Friday and Saturday, not Sunday now. The Sunday thing has been over with for a few years now for Knob Creek. The show now is only Friday and Saturday. And this is their last show. 15 years of having the Knob Creek to change the includes twice a year is coming to an end of this show. And that's the present announcement. Now, frankly, I would not be too surprised if somebody decides to buy the show off. Somebody was party. I'm not saying that's going to happen. Nobody's told me anything inside information. It's just because this is one of the best carriers in the country right now. It's possible that they may be, somebody might continue it. Or maybe not even the same location. I don't know. It's certainly not to me. I'm just taking a little possibility thrown out there. A lot of people keep asking me why are they rising for us and why are they rising? According to their documents, they sent us They said, well, basically we're getting older. It's time to come to an end. That's basically what they say. That may not be the only reason. I don't know. However, I could tell you about three or four years ago, during the object machine gun shoot, the rumor around the share was among the vendors, nothing was announced. The insurance companies were raising the rates so dramatically that they were deciding, the show promoters were deciding to make all vendors have their own insurance. So I don't know if that adds anything to notice, but this is happening all around the country. I do know this. I've talked to other gun show promoters and insurance rate, you know, they try to shut down gun shows one way or another and they're having trouble doing it because gun shows are quite the way we do. So corporations, via blocking credit card, ATM machines, banks not giving up funding money for the promoters, insurance companies backing the rates up astronomically. These are some of the tactics being used to try to shut down Gun Show. And if somebody can shut down the biggest or the best Gun Show in the country at this point in time, well. And I may be stretching and I say it's the best on show but yes vendors that's saved it probably is the case I've been done so well over the country. I do have a little bit of room to talk there So if I some company can some liberal pipes can shut down the best on show in the country There'll be a victory for them, right? So if you ever want to do the come to the mountain take the chain that shoot. This is the last chance possibly probably Big in the road here Oh, so. I say I'm traveling as I'm speaking. So I might hear some topic commentary. Might be some colorful topic theory too. We're going to be in actually in downtown Louisville in about less than 15 minutes, probably about 12 minutes. Again, I'm heading south on I-64 and I'm in Southern Indiana. So again, three warnings. If I get caught, I go off the coast. I just figure there's something on the air. I really want to supplement that. Walking power in. Hopefully I can hear you if you want to fall in. We're going to talk about things going on with the shows. And my journey today, and I've been up to the last few weeks because I missed the last three shows, I believe it was. The reason for that is I think I mentioned the last time I was on the air that my mother fell down, broke her hip. And basically the house he lived in, vintage 1866, the year after the Civil War. And this house came unlimited before her because she was in a walker and there was no bathroom on the ground floor. The bathroom was on the second floor. He doesn't know how much that was built in 1866. They didn't have bathrooms. They didn't have any more plumbing. They had an outhouse outback and not even really much of a kitchen, just a... some sort of rudimentary sink in the bathroom with a cistern, underground cistern, which has a cup of water and a hand pump. And of course, they had no electricity back then. So anyway, this house was updated with a bathroom some time ago. It was equipped with a regular kitchen in 1888. that they put to the bathroom on the ground floor. So we had to find you another house. And it is very much a solar market right now, folks. If you're trying to buy a house right now, you probably know exactly what I'm talking about. People have been struggling to buy homes right now. And sometimes people are actually putting bids on homes before they even see them. So by the time people make an appointment, sometimes the house is done. So people who get houses have been finding that they have the goods as soon as they come and get closest. on the MLS and then they've also had to sometimes outbid other people above asking price. That's where the market is. I really walked out into the one that I got here. Hmm, I'm right behind a vehicle which I don't think might be heading to not cruise. Looks like it's a military vehicle. I don't think they're behind it. They're out of it. But it's a The back part of it has probably a standard, probably a Chevy pickup. It's got the radio clocks in the back. Anyway, we might be heading to an outreach. I don't know. There was a seller's market. In fact, here's how I can demonstrate how much it is a seller's market. We found a seller for our out. And the deal fell through. The buyer did it and he wavered and started to speak and the week later he finally said, well, better find somebody else. Okay. Just before we had a broker on Hill City. And then so, then they found another buyer. Again, without a broker, that's because it's a word of mouth, you see. And so, it's perfect. He paid an offer and they just fired the photo of the other suit for about a week and then dropped out. In the meantime, we've got an offer on other houses where as a cash deal, it's going to be really hard to close on now. We don't have the cash by the time I expose them, we'll end up losing our money, our earnest money. So, they're about out, some of the steps to evolve the process. I'm seeing a double rainbow right now in the local. Double rainbow, because there's been running one off all the way down here to private Indianapolis. Very bright single rainbow and a very faint double rainbow. But we're in the area, we can look out the window. I'm going to have to do something on my phone here. I need to switch to navigation because I have to navigate a tricky park. And we may do some things as we're driving. I don't know. I've got to watch this as I speak. I understand there's something going on right now with the bridge. There's really a main bridge, and it's now a toll bridge. It made it a toll bridge about three years ago. It will go between the Southernmost city of Indiana, but it's going over the high river. And you have the cameras to check your license plate and send you a bill, basically, unless you already have the reader or something. I don't do photos and I don't do readers and I don't do license plates. So, I find other means. So I heard there's a problem there right now anyway. I heard there was a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a beep or a be They do a structural problem. They haven't set down for many months. And it was year, a cluster, you know what, for quite a while, trying to get around in Louisville and getting out of Louisville over the Ohio River. But there's other bridges you can go. So, one way is around sorrows if you put it in the head. So, I think that's actually diminishing if you're in a Louisville area, you may not even see it. Now, it might not be Louisville or Louisville, but it was Louisville, very well, North Louisville. So the second buyer dropped out too. We're now scrambling here. We found a point buyer. This is all done throughout the real estate agent. And because it's such a seller's market, we finally found somebody and we closed Wednesday last week. That's why I couldn't be on show last week. So we closed in just a nick of time. We got the cash. And then Monday, just two days ago, we closed on my mother's new home once she's moving too. We closed things within a few days. So finally, it all worked out even though we had a whole lot of nail biting in the meantime. And while things were going on, we didn't know we were even going to make it. And if we lost that deal with the house that she was buying, it would have been extremely hard to find another house. Because the way I found it was quite by accident. I was just driving by, I saw the sign, made a call. No answer, no return call, but I looked at the MLS and said I already had a contingency offer, so I let go of that. I had the idea of that one, but I went by three or four weeks later and the time was still up for sale, and I called, no answer, left a message. This time they did return my call, and I got, then they talked to them and said, well, we're about ready to close on that. We don't expect any problems, but we can call you if there's, well, about an hour later they called me back and I said, guess what? That house you call about today. Well, you can come see it now if you want. I ran right over there got my mother they come We made it off for the next day. Oh, nice. If you pretty much have to offer full price today, they'll ask you price in these right now. No, I can change Give it a few weeks and it might take but that's that's what we're dealing with right now. Yeah, there's one time Okay, I'm only one mile from little though I can see some off with it now I hear somebody. Hi. Yeah, this is David in the thumb. You said you don't do license plates. Does that mean you don't have plates on your automobile right now? I don't. I have a plate that's basically a non- I'm trying to concentrate on here. Let me see. I got to make sure I get the red upset. Sorry about the... Yeah, and I don't want to watch the... You concentrate and then when you can answer, go ahead. Yeah, I'm getting off of, I'm off of the expressway now. I'm on a smaller road. I can't remember the details here. I gotta get, but I'm gonna be on a bridge going over the Ohio River probably in less than a minute. And yeah, I have exempts, well, there's so many posts, all right? So that's always caught with danger. You've got to know what you're doing because you will get stopped. But I recently won a federal lawsuit and I'm going to be using that more and more to my advantage. Hopefully you'll find a customer that's willing to lend and pay the things they want to pay, you know what I'm saying? Because basically they'll go look for easier customers if you cause so much of a problem for them. Okay, I'm on the right road here. There are several terms that I had to navigate and look like I am on the right one. I'm glad this navigation still works, so I'm on the phone. I'm talking to the phone, with the navigation, and trying to conduct a live radio. Now, also, a lot of you may know this, when it's out of the lot, quite often when you hit a state line, service gets cut off. Now, I don't expect that to happen in little bit because of the population density. But that's usually the case if I'm on the phone and I'm all the way across the state line, I get cut off. So if I get cut off, I wouldn't be too surprised, but I don't expect it because this is Louisville after all. I am now over the Ohio River. And looking to my left, I can see the tall bridge. Looking right, I can see railroad bridge. All kinds of bridges across Louisville. I think there's three of them for cars. and one or two for railroads, I don't remember. So anyway, and this dumps me right into downtown Louisville because I bypassed the money maker and I'm told I'll have to be navigating city streets for about six blocks, if I recall. Maybe it's been many times, but I've never been coming here when I've had to do it. So this is a little, gonna be a little more difficult for me. I think I pretty much know it by now. I've probably done it about ten times, but I always have to... Use my navigation because I never know for sure if I'm gonna make it or not So the house fails complete and now I'm now on the Kentucky side on land. Oh, if you will, I'm now no longer over water So if my signal is still there, that means I probably will not cut off with it Maybe we'll make the whole show about getting cut off. It'll be a lot of cell towers We have today There are little garbled crags, but you've been garbled, just a little garbled on the end of your transmission. But you've been cleared for most of the trip which you're traveling down the freeway, man. That's pretty good. We usually don't get this kind of signal when we're doing stuff like that. Yep, and I'm on downtown Louisville right now. And so sometimes buildings can cause interference and reflections of the touch too. I don't know where the cell towers are. I won't speak back to that sort of thing. passing by the Little Polaroid Station. This is where they would hold all the protests when they were doing the George Floyd stuff a year ago. Probably longer was, a little more a year ago now. Okay, 500 feet, I have to turn left on West Liberty Street, which I will be doing here. I've been having a little bit of car troubles also, which I am having to worry about a little bit. I got the check engine light and what's happening is The van is idled down now, but when I start moving, the van accelerates itself and it goes at a high idle. So fast that I can go about 45 miles an hour down flat road without having my foot on the accelerator pedal. So something in the computer, some sensor, something I'm sure, I have a DC damn car, you know, I've got some sensor they gotta replace, a couple hundred dollars, plus labor. I'm sure that's probably what I'll end up half-facing when I get back, but... I'm hoping the van makes it to that. I've got a Chevy, boy, I don't know the number up, and I'm sorry, I'm not much of a car person. It's a full-size van that's equipped with a fiberglass body on the back. Well, fiberglass is wood. It's kind of like a service truck. It's a little bit bigger than the one conch as the I don't know if that's the 3500 or what they call I really don't know Sorry, I should know my own man, and I don't even know right. I think that's probably a 3500 at one time Yeah, it's not the single wheel single wheels in the back not the duels, but I think it's still classified as one time I need because bread what year ah this one is a Uh, uh, oh, three, uh, might be a 2000. I, I'm not positive. I might be an 04. I'm sorry. I don't know. Yep. That's okay. Okay. Getting, now I'm going south to national six, I 65. I said 64 before, didn't I? I 65 south to natural. I'm getting on the ramp now. If I accelerate, there's a old Colonel Sanders picture, Colonel Sanders picture up everywhere around here in Louisville. It's almost dark here. in Lotho and getting on the freeway and it was 200 feet ago but it's free right here. Okay, now I'm back on the freeway and I've been here many times and within a few miles, if you look at the area, is where I do the show all the time when I do a show at Lotho at the Expo Center right across from the airport, the International Airport, we're just a few miles ahead. Anyway, we're now Being clear of the city-states and we're kept on track. Thankfully, I don't have to turn for 43 miles. Got a quarter tank of gas and hopefully it'll last for half an hour yet. I hit 13 miles down with this thing, with this truck body, with this bucket. So, let's see, I need everything. This is what happens when I just, in Minneapolis, I picked up a bunch of military Boy, I don't know how to describe them, exactly. I'll try to describe them. Maybe somebody out there could tell me. I bet Mark said if he was open to the park, he wasn't happy with this part, so. I picked up 20 military hard cases. These hard cases are plastic. Well, there's 17 of them that are white hard plastic. They make about 18 by 18 by 14, I'd say, 14 tall. I'm making guesses here. I did not make them yet. Kind of looking online and some basic keywords and I can put five pictures of what I have. These things put the Pelican boxes to change. They're hard cases. They have internally, they have about, I think about six or probably eight clasps, turning clasps on that. They have a, it even has a tractor release valve on the box because they're not only, they're probably watertight, they're probably airtight as well. And inside there's a Very, very thick foam. The instrument that these things held was probably only about maybe cubicles, cut thighs and shapes, about 8 inches by 8 inches by 8 inches, or maybe even 6 inches by 6 inches. Because the foam is still in place and that's just most of that box is full, protecting whatever piece of equipment was in. these boxes. So I don't know, I'll have to look at these boxes for and see if I can get food of a number or what they housed. They also have stickers on there saying, must be returned. They're ones that they would not abandon. They were probably cost military, probably cost the US government several hundred dollars per case, I would guess. And I'm going to be throwing them probably, my price point, I'll probably sell them for $30 each. So if you're going to government to a, I think you want a real nice, American-like basis. Almost typical tape wouldn't be good for a gun. Might be good for other things. Would be good for other things. Because of the tape it wouldn't be good for a gun. So I think I'm going to be selling them for $30 a piece. I don't know, sometimes I walk around and see if anybody's offering such a thing and I match the price. I don't try to compete to that with somebody or I might even have to lower it. So I might just have to not even sell them depending on what if anybody else has it. It's a lot of people come along, this is some of them fly and if somebody's flying, they're not taking all these cases back with them. And if people fly and they're not taking back these cases and if they're diving in, they're picking up a good size, good person with a bumpy guitar or a backseat guitar. They are pretty good. You can probably just see them in a bumpy guitar and probably see them in a backseat guitar. And then there's some other cases which more or more of the big monums about I think I'm exaggerating here. I'd say two and a half feet by two and a half feet by three and a half feet. A trunk size, also hard plastic, got the pressure release valve. I didn't even open that case. The case itself is 180 pounds. It says that out there, two person case, 170 pounds. And I don't know what was in that yet. That's been wholesome guns. But I don't know what it was for. Yes, I didn't have a staff, I just picked them up. And there's a couple other cases, one's a little smaller than that, probably about 3 foot by 3 foot by 3 foot. And another one's about, what about 80? High by about 4 feet wide by about 3 foot wide. Don't know what any of these cases are for yet, they're all US military. But I don't know, I happen to not speak, I don't know what the price points are, the bigger ones yet. I'm gonna have to do some investigation. I know what I paid for them so I can make up a price on the spot if I had to, but the idea of doing a job like I do is you're going to be good, there's a problem. You try to make the best of it by getting what you can out of something. That's just the reality of what we do at the job. That's not the job I do. And since I only have three shows this year, essentially, just being the third one, there's a limited chance of making money of shows for me this year. I am now just passing Kentucky Expo Center at the same terminal and on my right now I can see the Kentucky International Airport. I'm not sure what the name of it is actually but it's a major international airport. And let's see here, what else? Okay, and I'm on my way right now. Well, I need a big talk. Not only do I have a stock and a show in the stock, but I get those huge cases now it's almost over-fearing. But I have to pick 66 cases of MREs in here. And that's why I have to keep going on the road. I'm not going to meet somebody here soon. In fact, I'll have to text this individual about 10 minutes, saying I'm about 45 minutes away. Because I am picking up 66 cases of MREs. Most of you know what an MRE is. Forest regards describe it briefly. An MRE just stands for meal ready to eat. It's a US military ration. Something cases of 12. You have an A case and a B case. A total of 24 different meals between the two A's and A's. If that's 12 different meals, the B case is 12 different people. B is the ones I'm picking up on total are dated between 2018 and 2021. That would mean that 2021 would have the pizzas in them. If I have, depends on how many 2021s I have and if I run out of the other ones, they'll go for more money, more than likely just because they have the pizza. And not because they're newer so much because the pizzas are in store and very high demand. So probably my price point on these will have to be about $70 a case. And that's actually, why do they win to that, that's a case? Because of the pandemic hit. I sold a lot of MREs, and I think everybody in the country that had them sold a lot of MREs. I sold almost all my preside food, I sold a lot of MREs. Food was hot, as were gas masks, as were even water filters were selling for me. So, I don't know, I have to look at what other people are paying for MREs or selling MREs to show. Again, I don't try to undercut anybody, and I try to, and I can't be way over anybody else either, so I have to make me lower my price if I'm too hot. and just take a little bit of a loss and not enough profit. But I'm thinking the price point is probably going to be about $7 a case for the 2018s and 2019s and 2020s. And that's actually pre-pandemic. So I might be waiting too long. We'll see. They've been hard to get. They're costing me a lot more than they used to. I'm saying about 50% more than I did two years ago. I just bought the last time I bought MREs. I can't about not to buy them until the price went down a little bit. But I had this offer from somebody who lowered the price from me a little bit. And like you said, if I buy all of them, we lower the price a little bit. So, I can keep up with him after. Here's a little heads up for you. I am now passing that same military-like vehicle that I decided to give you, Michelle. But it's a regular pickup truck. So this gentleman, even though he's only going about 50 right now or 55, he can go faster. It's not a military vehicle. I don't know. There's a lot of military vehicles that were governed. I know my Army truck is governed at about 54. It's 54 miles an hour, but half of it is all head over the metal all the way down. I don't know about the Humvees. I don't know about the more modern stuff. Mine's an older one. More modern stuff might go faster on the highway. Anyway, but the point that I have there is I just have to send it even over the toll road. I did not. So I still, I only lost a few minutes probably going over the non toll road. Of course he was going slower than me. Yeah, if you just passed him, you gained time. I say gain time? If you just passed him, you gained in time. Yeah, well, yeah, but he was going slower. So, that was a distinctive vehicle where I could tell, I recognize, by the way, you might bet there's these off-the-line. Just like when I do Dayton-Hampfest, I'm seeing all these vehicles with these big antennas on and the special license plates that have their call sign on them. I'll see usually about 40 or 50 of those on the road as I go down to Dayton, Ohio for the Dayton-Hampfest. And the military vehicle showing Dayton, Ohio also. Uh, no, not based, uh, in Pumbay Isle. You'll see all kinds of military vehicles on the road heading that way. Or they'll be on flatbeds or whatever they're doing, and you'll see all kinds of military vehicles on the way. Not quite like a convoy, but a convoy that we all, a bunch of military vehicles that we've all the same size. Same size and size generally for a long, a long ways. Excuse me. Okay. Let's see, five more minutes. I have to text my contact. Let him know I'm coming. So, uh... Yeah, no time to, uh, don't know what the mark is. I'm going to have to touch the mark immediately. If I'm the only one there, then probably my price will be 70 bucks per case. And if others are selling them, last time, the fire call, the last time we had a show, I think there was selling at Mount Creek. A lot of institutions, but frankly, people have better military contact than I do. So you can find a lot of good deals at these stores. Some people who have direct contact with this position at the military base, except at the military base. I don't have that kind of contact. I can't go into military base. I won't have their government-issued ID or anything. I can't even go into base. So I'm at a disadvantage. I'm going to have to buy some people, some secondary people who are going to go into the military base. And I buy it from them. And they mark the price up a little bit. Well, frankly, I don't make as much off the MREs as a lot of people might. But if I recall last time, we had a store not frequently for years now, I believe the price of $60, I think, one sender sold me all his cases, left at the end of the sale for $50 each, I think, is what happened last time. I don't remember for sure. If you aren't going to the store and you're the one that buys some MREs, here's one place. Because online, it's hard to find them online where you... You're going to have a hard time finding the military ones. You'll have an easy time finding the ones called P-PAD or the ones that are like a military MRE, but they're the civilian ones. Those you can find all over the internet. Those are only moved over ships. But when you start talking about the military ones, the military labeling and packaging, those are not waffled and so on. You won't find them on one generally. It's very hard to find them online. You can usually just shut down pretty quickly. So if you want a military version of an MRE, you've never had one, you want to buy a case or two, you're on FEGS list on Facebook, local, or you might have to go to a town or school away because they aren't very popular, but you can usually find them in the largest things on FEGS list. And right now, I did some checks and prices before I made the agreement for the deal that I made here. Check, and all the areas I checked east of Mississippi were up. It depends on the years and all that, but I follow the pie as in $50. Those are probably for the 2021s or end to end, those are the ones that have the fee for them. And when I look at that date, that's the date of the, it's not an expiration date, it's a, what do they call it, it's an inspection date. Every elementary has an inspection date. Well, it's not used by date. That would be the spelling word that might have used by date. But with the military, it's an inspection date. But it's the right idea, yes. It's a three-year inspection date for MREs. All that means is that I've had a lot of MREs in the missing, in the military that have a sticker stamp on their tank that says, extend date another year. So they go and check that most MREs have a sticker on them, which is a heat-sensitive sticker. It's kind of a reddish-orange color. The sticker has turned black in the middle. It looks like a little black down there. It's orange in the middle. And if that little orange circle in the middle has turned black, that means it's been heated up to where they consider that they'll have to send them out and ship them out and get rid of them or whatever. So that's the way you can tell with your military. Within the last 10 years, I'd say, they've had that sticker on them. I do think that it's 50. And it's inspection day, but they can extend the day if they're not. A lot of times they do. I've heard different ways they destroy these things. Sometimes they ship them out and let people have them. Other times they don't. They take them to a dump. And they sit there and watch them. They run back and forth over them when they go to the dump. And I've heard all sorts of different stories. And those variables and DMREs are not as readily available. And it's testing now since the end of the month. I really don't know how bad it's going to be. I don't know. I got 66 faces and it could all sell. I don't know. But most of the time, most of the fear that I'm going to get older and frankly the people that are there to just sell aren't the fearful type anyway. So I might be stuck with a lot of cases where I'm not doing shows and I'm going to have to tell them I'm pregnant with them or something. I'll be stuck with a lot of cases where I don't do shows. It's hard. It's fairly easy to tell them in shows. If you're not doing chores, I can't tell them online, then I'm going to screw. Boy, I may have overboxed. Really, we'll see. I'm taking a big risk. It's like a gamble. Especially since I've ate a lot more than I've ever ate for MRE's. You may have to eat them. Okay, I have to. You may have to eat them. Oh, no, no, no, no. Oh, no, no, no. It's great for me to eat and have a whole lot of free strategy that I'm eating during this construction phase of the project that I'm working on. Okay, I'm going to keep talking, but I'm going to do something on the phone that should not hang up on anything here, but I have to text my contact. I've already have the text pre-written to participate at this moment in time. And I'm texting him right now, and that's done. So, I knew I had to be ready for all this. I'd make sure I had enough gas, I'd make sure I didn't have to go to the bathroom, all this stuff here, and I'm about to go back to my navigation. But I think I'll be off here before my Before my meeting, before I get off the highway, I do that thing. I'm still heading south. I'm going through an area called, let's see if I can remember it. As I'm calling my navigation again. Yeah, I got 28 miles, so I turned. Boy, I wanted to start with, as you know, that was a fairly large city south of Liv, maybe somebody can help me out here. It is kind of a long name, something's there, I think. Well, it just takes me at the moment, but anyway. I've got to go there to meet the gentlemen, then I'll have to follow him for 15 miles. I have also been before. I've brought Canadian MREs from them before. Actually, in Canada, they're not called MREs. They're called IMBs. They're stands for individual, mere, pack, I think. Individual, mere, portion, individual, mere pack, IMBs. I've been dating them. I haven't had those in a few years, but I'm talking about A couple hundred cases of the IMPs as well. Sometimes my contact has four in the race. You see what happens is when I'm told, when they have the military excursions with other countries training, I can't remember the name, all you people know it, I'm marked with, I'll talk to them, but the cooperative training, the militaries, when they come to this country, whether it's military or the couple countries, they'll take over the world, you know. They didn't know the MREs, particularly. And when they do that, and they bring their cart and leave that to the country, they aren't allowed, because it's customs, there's some sort of rule they have, that they aren't allowed to take their MREs back with them. So, they leave them. And then it becomes a free-for-all for whoever is able to get an auditor out of the base. So sometimes they'll see check-us, lock-in, and other, all sorts of different countries MREs here. Japanese, you know, I'd rarely get anything but the US. I have had a bunch of Canadian ones, but other than that, I have not personally had multiple cases of any other country other than US and Canada here. We are fairly close to Canada, especially where I'm off from in Michigan. Like the Ann Arbor area is only an hour from Canada. So, okay, let's see what else. So, I've had my eyes on the show, I expect, oh, and I have the Trump notes. Before the pandemic, I bought thousands of Trump notes and Trump coins. And they were selling fairly good. In fact, the last time I was at an office, I was pretty good. Before I bought more, but in the pandemic, there were thousands of phones and notes that were there because there was no code. I didn't put them on the line. I figured, well, okay, hopefully the pandemic will be over and after the election. Because that didn't happen, so the election came and went and Trump lost. I said, why have all these built coins? I was really worried about being able to get rid of them. But, as I found with the three shows I've done this year, the two shows, a lot of shows, they're still telling, okay, even though he's no longer president, even though he's a Trump 2020, make liberals cry again, whatever, they're still telling. So, okay, and the four guys must be fast driving the hottest cars. But my biggest challenge is showing, probably, the Trump Williams and the Elks, a lot of Trump fans, and those other gun shows I've been finding. And I hope they're the MREs. I don't think these cases are going to solve very well, but I do have them, and I'm probably the only ones there that have these. And maybe they'll solve, maybe not. And what I expect to be my biggest bit of thought, which I'll tell you, I don't know. I really don't know who else is there and what they're offering. Do you live in your truck? Do you sleep in your truck or are you staying away? They'll know I never can do the hotel thing you got to have a major credit card and ID for that So unless you find them on in pop place you've got to require credit cards. So no, I sleep in my truck I've got a little bunk bed in it. I've got a high top is I can stand up in it I'm six foot three and I can stand up in it. My head touches the fire glass steering but I can stand up so I build a little bunk bed above. I'm pretty cool right now I've got to pull all these cases to put the MREs in and I've got to put the cases on top of them but they're gonna be back to the roof. Better be able to fit a moment. I can probably fit two or one or two in the front here if I have to, but the smaller ones. But yeah, sleeping o'clock always, always have to. No really other options there. When you don't have a social security number, your life is different. I'm not part of the social security cult, so my life is different than everybody else. I can't travel the same way. I can't sleep in a motel the same way. Can't go to military bases, none of that stuff. that a lot of you would be able to do because you're part of that social security cult. I see I've got about 10 more minutes to my show. This is the last outbreak. If you've ever shot a live machine gun, or a fully auto machine gun, this is your chance. That's from the West Point, Kentucky. It's about 35 miles south west of Louisville. I'm heading straight south right now. I have to go Edwards, Bergen. I can't pretend they're in the city. But I'll have another hour, probably an hour and a half traveling tomorrow morning to get to West Point, Kentucky. The nearest one of the cities to West Point is Fort Knox and then Louisville. So Fort Knox, Kentucky, here there. South of the countryside. Very automatic machine gun shooting, including at least up to 50 BMP. But I think we usually have some 20 millimeter you can fire as well. And also a cannon or two would be there. They generally have a Huey helicopter flying over sometimes too. Being as the last one, I wouldn't be surprised if they have children flying over at this time. Yeah, the old Vietnam era Hueys, I don't know the designation now, but the very Hueys, they'll be flying, they'll not be like they always are. I'm assuming they will. I was not told this, but they always are. The last 10 years they always are. Sometimes there's two of them. There were two of them at the last show I did, where I saw them at Tinlay, but then they show, and nothing else they did to show, two of them flying overhead. I would really expect to have been flying this time, but that's not a guarantee. Probably would be one of them at least. Also, last time we had a few tanks there. Not a Sherman tank, but very similar looking to Sherman. I don't remember the one that goes in tanks. They usually have live demonstrations on the on the range of blanks in the tanks. And so usually you get to see a demonstration of the tanks, if they're already there this time. They aren't always there, but the last five years I think they've been there just about every single time. So I do expect some tanks to be there. It's going to be a big show. I expect the tendency to be double or less, unless they limit attendance. You want social distance, you're coming to the wrong place like that. So if you're scared of the Coronavirus, bring them in. That's probably all I can say. I doubt if one of the people will be wearing them, but I don't know that. I did not see in the literature where a mask was required. Maybe it is. Maybe it isn't. I don't know. I know when we get there, I guess it kind of depends on what the state of Kentucky overall is doing. I mean, the Commonwealth of Kentucky. I don't know. Maybe somebody can look that up and inform me on the air here what the status is of the mask. Status mandates on in the commonwealth I know it's Indiana. Well, Indiana today was very wax It was required. It didn't look like it's me. I Started my journey out 3 a.m. This morning in, Ohio My warehouse I have in Ohio four hours to Northwest Indiana the Chicago area briefly jumped into Illinois to get the six zip code a little secret I use sometimes when I'm traveling and have an order to send out I had an aqua brick water filter which, sent from Michigan, cost $75. 24 bucks to ship to California. Holy crap. And they only send me 25 bucks for shipping on that. So I lose big time on those when I send to California, but had another one they had to ship out. And so this time I knew if I crossed the Indiana area code, the zip code, I mean, Indiana area code, Kentucky area code, I'm not an area code, zip code, I'm sorry, start to the four, the Michigan zip code starts to the four, the Kentucky starts to the four, and so does Indiana. But I jump over to Illinois, and I was going five miles from Illinois where some of my business was today. It's now a sixth area code. And I saved 45 bucks on shipping that. So it cost me 55 bucks instead of 75 bucks. Or 25 bucks, 20, what did I say? 20 bucks. 20 bucks in shipping by jumping over the border into a six zip code. Chicago, 6060 or whatever. Or Chicago. So I'm in Chicago area. So anyway, I didn't lose as much, but that way. I only lost 40 bucks instead of, what was it? Yeah, 40 bucks. Instead of 50 bucks. Holy crap. I really should stop selling those things. They're oversized. They're very lightweight, but they're oversized. So I saw the faces and I get murdered on the post of several things. That's probably a reason why everybody from California has come from me. It seems like I'm always coming from California. I've only got about one more pallet left, so maybe it won't be in my orders. Okay, let's see. We're good time left. What else is going on? Yeah, I spent the whole day on the road pretty much had four places to stop in Northwest Indiana, depending on my laundry. And I had to go to the host office in Indianapolis, near Indianapolis, for those military cases that I have on board, which will be a per fail at half-break today. Tomorrow. That's tomorrow. That's tomorrow. The public is not invited. Tomorrow. Thursday. Only the vendors they set up there and there's a lot of wheeling and doing those on those days if anybody who's ever been to show us a vendor you know, I'm gonna get changed hands on Thursdays. People are looking for deals to do like vendor passes and other dealers between near to dealer sales. A lot of that going on. Some people actually sell out on Thursday. That public isn't allowed at that type of a Thursday. Public's not allowed so. Unfortunately for you, you probably will never experience that. Also, you will find, if you've ever been to Napkri, even without going to Napkri proper, you will find on the roadways leading to Napkri, roadside sales, tents, maybe military tents set up, the surplus and all sorts of things should buy along the way, the small highways along the way, you'll find parking lot sales where they have full military tents set up. big ones too not just not just on the back of their pickup truck but we're semi loads of stuff are being sold on the side of the road where they somebody rents a lot on the vacant lot from from an owner and they set up all their goods because they can't get into an out creek or maybe they don't want to get into an out creek because it was an eight-year waiting list to get in now I think it's a 100 year waiting list to get in or whatever whatever it ever happens again whatever happens again Again, the last magic machine guns this weekend, if you're listening on the up for February 6th, it is this Friday and Saturday, West Point Kentucky. Very likely the last one, it is announced as the last one. I'm putting that disclaimer in that maybe, maybe somebody will buy one of the best shows in the country and maybe it will continue here or somewhere else in West Point Kentucky. That's just my speculation folks that is not Okay, I expect the music pretty soon. I'm still on the road and I'm getting very happy. I have Verizon folks. And so I got Verizon for keeping me on the air for a whole hour of traveling without being cut off. That's pretty good. I actually have a Verizon and it's on the Backbone network. I don't see Payphones, that's another thing. You start getting into contracts and they want to start wanting more information from you, which I don't give. So, the social security number, usually it amounts to prepaid phones. But, that would pay $30 an month for unmet, well, it's not unlimited, it's unlimited data they save, but the high-speed data is only, I think, 30 gigabytes shared between two lines. 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You know the funny thing is a question about you know, which would you prefer the the a fl over the the PTR 91 slash g3 hk 91 rifle and it's it's not even the definition of you know Application like well one over the other for certain, you know certain situations We have three basic dominant weapon systems coming out of that era that have been so readily available as perfect militia arms because of the surplus inventory that provided the base for what it was later additional production of parts, arms, and accoutrements. And that's the FN FAL, the HK 91, G3, and the M14. And now there is a fourth rifle though that I'm not trying to leave you out because people are like, well, Erky's not mentioning the AR-10. And the AR-10 came out in the same window. In fact, it was competitive with all three of the other rifles back when originally was invented. It was just forced into the competitions, as everybody knows, with an aluminum barrel with a steel, you know, steel liner. Now, it's not really steel. It actually is more like a stellite type liner. And by the way, the reason that they felt that that would be successful for the type of use that the weapon was expected to be applied for. is that most of your M250 caliber barrels have a stellite liner. In fact, that's one of the issues when you're doing 50 caliber conversion of the barrels. That stellite liner is an obstacle, something that we haven't talked about, I guess, enough in recent years. But it's only an obstacle if you're going to go really strange with the barrel itself. With some of the things that we've done, As I've tried to point out time and again, we really don't want to do a whole lot to modify the barrel if we can help, especially when we were building the Motti Griffins. So again, two different directions came out of the Motti Griffin home-built kits. M250 caliber barrels were of course used, but also a lot of people bought Douglas for other manufactured barrels to spec. and, you know, paid more money for the barrel than they did for the rest of the kit, because the rest of the kit is built from scratch. So the barrel, in this case, with the Mahdi Griffin rifles, is the center of the universe. Okay? Now, the AR-10, I got to remind you, there's only one country that really embraced the AR-10 in any good numbers after it was proposed, and lo and behold, it was an American ally that really is kind of close bonded with us, and that is the Netherlands, slash Holland. And it's because of that surplus batch of guns that the AR-10 exists today. I hope you all understand the genealogy of the rifle that you're carrying. You're carrying the AR-10. Now the AR-10 does not have the benefit of any deep larder of manufacturers or surplus from military inventories. The US military were bloated. We always overspend on everything. It's part of the sugar daddy, you know, stuff in the back pocket of the ring knocker or spit swapper who's in charge and his buddies. And that's so that for that reason, there's always a ton of stuff, some of it you don't even see anymore that originally when it was available for the M14 as surplus guys, it was pennies. Okay, pennies, not dollars, not even not tens of dollars, pennies. The next in line was the FN FAL and the HK was not going anywhere in surplus. I will remind you of that. That's another gun like the AR-10, but for a very different reason. It was chicken teeth. If you were going to buy an HK for many, many decades, you had to buy an HK and it had to be an HK-91. And $3,000 was not an unheard of amount to pay for the model that you probably would want. Anywhere from as little as, I mean the lowest it was, when they first came in it was $900 and that only lasted a few years. And then they went through the roof. And then after the band in 68, oh forget it, it's like then it was like, oh God, whatever's out there, they want arm, leg, and first newborn son. But the HK was like the third leg because it was so popular or kept in service with so many different countries Right even to this day. It's still out there. It's not gone But because of that it has probably you know a good parallel neck and neck Inventory of spare parts still out in the universe with the m14 in fact probably exceeds the m14 right now because the m14 is pretty well way back in the taillights. The HK-91 on the other hand, guys, if you look pictures of the Mexican military, you will see the FN FAL, you will see the HK-91, you will see AK-47s, you will see M16s in their hands, and they have all of the above in service. Don't think so go look at some of the border pictures especially if they're local from your respective state news services or they show that Mexican federales or the local local Constabulary they're working with the borders, you know, the Mexican border people look at the weapons are carrying to release Photos kind of speak for themselves but the HK comes late into availability in terms of the inventory so And we're now feeding off, and we have been feeding off for 9 on 30 years, it doesn't seem like it, but it is true, that the first wave of HK stuff came in in the 90s, and which promoted the biggest jump in HK imports. Eventually though, in this last several years, we had PTR. And PTR gave us a weapon made on American soil, with an HK design, HK platform. It's the Portuguese plant bought by a gentleman on the East Coast, and he brought it in. You might recall, Maine military was one of the big promoters of it. They're not very big, but Maine military, because they actually bought into the weapons system right from the get-go, they had accessibility when nobody else had it. Just a heads up on that one just to remind you of modern history here with these weapons now There are other people that supported the PTR 91 project from the get-go and they got benefit from it, too The big thing here is now we had some place to go with all of the HK mags and all the other stuff That's been laying around for quite some time. There is a fifth Orphan red-headed stepchild and only because of the bastard to actually get hold of it And that is the set me rifle which parallels the G3 HK 91 PTRs Why do I call it the red-headed stepchild? Well, unfortunately, because whoever usually puts it together is Century International Arms, you know, CIA. Oh, I'm Century Arms International. Did I mess up on that? No, I didn't. But anyway, they always find a way to puck up a gun. They might make a feud of lure you in, but they always find a way to puck up a gun. You know, hockey puck a gun? And this has been notorious for a long time, so it's actual and intentional industrial sabotage as far as I'm concerned. Not industrial, but sabotage by the competition. It's intentionally done by the factory. There's no way they could not know this, you know, for over a million years. There's no logic as they can dump a percentage of the guns out there and we get stuck. Now it doesn't mean we haven't had a good run with them on occasion. And the set means that are out there right now, there's a couple of different models that are available. actually are working pretty well. So they fall into the niche with the HKs and because their HK PTR-91 and the CETME new receivers are built sloppy, the good thing is that typically you can get both the CETME mags and the HK-91 mags to fit in both rifles. But you have to test each gun. If it's a PTR, it will take the HK 91 mags. If it'll probably take though, the CETME mags, which means if the HKs were to completely dry up, the CETMEs are starting to come in in the latest wave of kitchens. If you're looking for those magazines, Bob Creek would be a good place to go and that is this weekend. Craig's on his way down there already. He does program mobile. But he reminded everybody this is according to the Knob Creek owners. This is the last Knob Creek machine gun shoot. This weekend. Yep. So if you can get down there it's a good chance to kind of sign off on a long bit of history. It may be resurrected by somebody else if they choose to pick it up. But if you haven't been down there and haven't been there for a while. This weekend is the Knob Creek Machine Gun Shoot. And by the way, you get a chance to see Craig. Now, Craig's already in motion to get down there because you have to set up. But I'll remind you that if you're lucky, maybe he brought some of his copper rounds, I hope he did. And you guys can snarf some of those, snag them right there. No, that's a... So that's a good thing. But yeah, all of the manufacturers that you see that I mentioned, Center Fire Systems will be there. Apex Gun Parts will be there. Let's see who else. Of course, Sarco, they are usually are there. They're usually in the middle in the Pavilion. And sometimes have up to eight tables. I don't know. They may be bigger as maybe the last gas or maybe they all show up in front of the front of it and do more. But for everybody there, if you get a chance, go through, get there early because there are deals. And if you can get in there, go through the pavilion, go through all the outlying, you know, little pavilions, the Ark, and pay attention. Now the good thing is, remember, even if it costs the same price as if you were to buy some of the stuff through their webpage, remember you're already going down to Knob Creek and you can save a lot of shipping because gun parts kits and other stuff are heavy. So this is a good chance to pick up stuff and not have to worry about that postal delivery delay or somebody else handling your goodies. Just kind of nice. Also, typically there's not just a regular fare of magazine sellers but other guys that only show up at gun shows or some cases have only shown up at Knob Creek. So it'd be a good idea to take a lot of cash, take a lot of cash, take a lot of cash. And since this is the last gasp, this means that it'll be an interesting fair to say the least. I can pretty well figure that if they have the last shoot. Now I don't know if they'll do it Saturday night. It'll be Saturday night probably, I guarantee it. I don't think they'll, they might have one last blow up for the last shoot on Sunday. But they're going to have to, I guarantee they've got something hopefully, hopefully planned to be dynamic for the last, you know, bang, bang, boom, boom for Knob Creek. So we'll see what happens. Take your, take your cameras and be prepared for what might be something really interesting. There's a lot of people who haven't been there in a bit, of course the flamethrowers haven't been there on it. They've been in there sporadic on and off because flamethrower parts were the problem, guys. I mentioned this before, American flamethrowers required a lot of specialized components. That wasn't accidental like everything else. We grossly over engineer it so that that way you have to buy from Uncle Samuel or you don't get it at all. You have to figure out how to make it yourself and most people don't want to. So the flamethrowers have been there and not been there at different times. Who knows? Maybe they'll get a couple of the guys with some weed burners to show up. That would be fun. And of course they have some of the big guns, you know, cannons, artillery pieces. And they've been there at different times, and this would be a good one since it's the last one. So it'd be kind of fun to have all the, you know, the historical firepower from the Knob Creek machine gun shoot there for the final days, and it will be fun. So we'll see what we can do. We are bogged down in terms of stuff that has to be done, especially with the weather coming, but might be able to. If we do, we'll let you know. Well, I should say we'll know in the next probably 24 hours or so. But definitely the Nob Creek machine gun shoot, a lot of people attending. And always something interesting showing up. Now don't forget the other thing about that with It's Weapons Wednesday is the fact that spare parts and or blams show up there in good quantity. There are things that they don't even advertise on web pages. that show up with some of these companies at Knob Creek because they've got them on the shelf, they save them up for when they get to Knob Creek, and there's a bin of them sitting there. They have pallet bins full of stuff. Goes pretty quick, but you never know what it's going to be. And so that's another reason to peruse all of the different back alley areas there around the arc. Just, you know, don't just rush through. Pay attention, look around. You watch for the deals. This is where you get a chance to stash up on magazines and top everything else. And more parts. Remember, parts, pieces, and assemblies. Even upper receivers. Traditionally there you can get, god knows what the price is the way they've been, they've got in the white blams that mechanically will work but have major problems on the outside that you can't really fix. If you're looking for, what I mean by that is if somebody didn't pay attention and the upper receiver is not indexed right and they cut the picatinny rail on the roof too deep on an angle and it's not right, there's no way you could, well, harder than hell to adjust anything that you'd try to fix. We had a few ideas how you could do that because there's add-on picatinny rails, you have to count one to make it fit the other one. But there's stuff like that where they have them for $10 apiece. They have a big bin of them because well, they got an operator 15 wasn't paying attention a lot But you never know there could be any number of things that show up there so in the uppers and also in things that are basically you know, Little less than 80% sometimes 70% or 60% lowers There's no paper on them. They still require a little more work, so you'd have to have a little more of the way of tooling. You're not just going to drill holes and route out stuff. There are other things that may need to be done. So that's another consideration with regard to stuff that might be there. And that's this weekend. And Craig will be there for the Knob Creek Machine Gun Juke. Go ahead, color. What do we have? Yeah, it starts at before we get too far away from the PTR stuff. Low and behold, lightning has struck and Atlantic Firearms does have the wide hand guards for the PTR-91 now, including the fact that they're selling, I think I saw one, maybe another, that they're actually putting them on the weapons, but they're selling them separately as a replacement for that narrow one. 140 bucks. Well, I got to figure, is it going to cost me $140 worth of my time to carve up a birch, birch, birch hand stock out of it, you know, by end. And I went and bit the bullet on it. Are these well? Are they right down to the end? They are polymer and they've got the are they in the green or the black? They are black. Oh, okay. They're newer. Okay. Well, that's made by P.L.M. I don't know who. They're made by P.O.F. I don't know who P.O.F. is, but... Oh, okay. Well, it sounds like they're filling a market need is what they're doing, which is okay because they've actually got the molds and they're doing it right. Well, those were the more common... I mean, it's a toss-up, but, you know, remember the stuff that was coming in the U.S. mostly had the chubby... the chubby stock set. Yeah, my original one that I bought back when I was a teenager had that on it, and it was comfortable, you know, because I got big hands and... This little narrow one just wasn't doing it for me. They also have full receivers. They got the original style that doesn't have the rail on top, and they've got the new style that does have the rail, the welded rail. And I showed you what that looks like, how good a welding job they did on that. $2.99 on sale now for the one with the welded rail, $2.79 for the blank. But both both full receivers, you know ready to put your parts kits on And right now there are two or three different companies that have been bringing in Setme and also The HK G3 there were a few G3 part, but again, I don't know how cobbled they are and needless to say you still need a barrel because they have been chopping the barrels on those quite some time but you can put a decent rifle together. They're not that difficult to do, but they are a little more work. Don't let that daunt you. Remember, if you just follow instructions and pay attention, you can get it done. So if you're looking to build another PTR slash HK rifle, the receivers, again, the people that know what they're doing, typically, again, are the ones you want to buy from. When they first came out with the parts kits, just as a reminder, there was, I don't know if you've ever seen it, Dar, but they had one that was actually a cast receiver. And it was a good idea, but it made the thing bulkier, but it was an aluminum. How many of you remember this? An aluminum receiver. The problem they had with the first model is that they didn't beef up the front barrel ring enough and they had not on every one of them but one or two had a micro fracture that developed strangely enough not on the top of the of the receiver but in the bottom front of the receiver which was kind of weird they immediately changed the mold and opened it up and beefed up the base by thickening and widening it making it square on the bottom rather than rounded a little bit And that eliminated that particular problem, but it did create the heartburn of people talking about, those receivers blow up. None of them ever blew up and none of them ever completely broke. In fact, people even heliarch those back together and had no problems after that. So obviously they bonded the material that much more efficiently and it worked. But there's a number of ways you can make receivers and that's probably the best example because the HKs are stamped. And this was a completely infusion and well, they did both ways. In fact, one company did billet, the other one did an infusion cast, bulked out, kind of like, oh, what else? At the time, there used to be a couple of other light rifles and the commando carbenes they did this way. And so they did a blown up version for the HK and it was their HK pattern. And it worked, actually did work quite well. And it didn't add any weight to the weapon. It just was bulkier around the receiver area because it was thicker, had to be thicker all the way around. Anything else? Anything else Atlantic jumping out? What about ammunition? They do have DSR manufactured FALs there. They're not a FANS. Manufactured by DSR. They've got... I don't know, maybe... That's one of the companies that does carry, it does carry FAL on a regular basis. That's true. So if you're looking for an FAL model, whatever... 1700 to 1900. They do have a heavy barrel unit that I would assume you could probably modify to do a, a belt set on. It's got a, it looks like it should be a belt set machine gun. But I mean nothing it doesn't cost anything to go and look at them if you want to get yourself familiar eyes with the different varieties And it's probably this one automatic version. They're still cranking those out from kids and What stock does it have on it does have the rounded American pattern stock that the Israeli stole or is it the are you talking about the four stock? It's got the wooden wooden fluted four stop the round one Yeah, the rear one. I was hard to look at it Yeah, they ripped everything off. When we were ready to buy the FAL, in fact to the point, guys, they thought it was a done deal. And at the time when the competitions were taking place, they were so sure we were going to get the FAL that training manuals and training brochures and individual pamphlets had FALs in the hands of US troops. in illustrations for training. And it was the American stock, the one that you see that's, they call it the Israeli stock, it wasn't the Israeli stock, it's the American stock. It was the one that we basically stated we were gonna use on our rifle if we built it. And when it was all done, and we had the tooling, I think that whatever, whoever, Izzy Blass and the steam, whoever had the tooling, everything was ready here. And they figured they had it pocketed that they were that far long and sure of the results and At the last not last minute, but in the last months all of a sudden we went with the m14 and all the FN FAL stuff slid sideways and disappeared and lo and behold all of a sudden the Israelis were making it so that's where it went and And from from that day forward you still see them popping up because again we paid for all of that and probably Hell, they've probably been working off our inventory, you know, the stuff that we built for quite a few years and some of it, they just never stop. If you'll notice the foregrips on those, the wooden foregrip, they may still have a black plastic pistol grip and they may have the plastic or wood buttstock, which of course is the squad gunner stock. What's interesting about it is that the forestocks are all birch wood and at the time when those were made in 1950, 556 maybe to 57. What's interesting is that that was when the US government authorized birch wood as the first alternative to replace walnut because there was not a sufficient amount of grade-a walnut for weapon stocks available. So birch wood was authorized for all other wood type object projects and furniture that went on any kind of weapon system. And that's why you see that different grain of wood that shows up in a lot of, in fact, I mentioned the M1A, the M14A1 or you know, E1? Forgive me, A1E1, or no, A2E2, god marks, I mean a microphone. These were the pistol grip M14 stocks. They're all done in Birchwood. They're on a walnut. They were done in alternative beech wood. With all the furniture on board used to buy them for five dollars apiece why because there were no m1a's around by God I wish I'd bought every last one of them and And just box them up and barrel them, you know put them in a barrel make sure they were airtight and just store them Wanna know why try and find one now, you know what they're what they're worth. It's one of those unobtainium price things Remember that guy back in the 9 little stuff? There are several indicators, Parkerize Finish, Birchwood, and the stampings, especially the markings on the stampings. They're not US-ordinates. Well, they are, but they're contractor-ordance marks. That tells me Israelis didn't do squat. They may have gotten the tooling eventually, and they may have built some, but we built most of them, and I think they just kept living off the inventory, and they still are probably. Like you remember that guy back in the 90s mark. He had that mountain of m14 stocks and used to sell them I think I bought some grade twos. I think I paid ten bucks apiece for walnut stocks I mean they they are still numbers and stuff painted on him I've got them set aside to to refitish at some point But he was selling those as well the ones with the pistol grips on him. He had everything Then he had a more classed out. He was a disperch and then there was the red birch That was a really high quality one and he got so much for that and he had the ones with the pistol grips and then he had the plastic ones but he had like a mountain of those things. I don't know whatever became him. And they all disappeared. Here's the thing. Guys, they all got sold and I'm just gonna give you a hint. They all went on guns. Where are those guns? I know where they are. They're all over the country sitting waiting right now. Bill Clinton didn't get them to grind them up. Yeah, they didn't get them the government government didn't get him back. I mean, this is what there's so many items It's like I said, it's like their air of the AR 180. I know where they went I know exactly where all those are But you know guys stuff has disappeared and it just it's gone Okay, and didn't go overseas and it didn't go under the table to something. No, they didn't go to Mexico. No I keep mentioning Bushmaster rifles. I'm not talking the Bushmaster AR-15. I'm talking about the actual Bushmaster rifle. They sold god-awful amounts of those. I sold a bunch of them just as a sidebar. In fact, I tried to get people to buy them to promote the company because you could buy two and a half a Bushmaster rifle, the actual Bushmaster design, not an AR-15. You can buy two and a half of those for the price of one AR-15 made by Colt. And not many other manufacturers were out there back in the day. Colt was the big handler on the AR-15. And there were some aftermarket receivers, and then you used M16 parts to put them together as long as you didn't use the selector parts. You had to go buy Colt parts or find an aftermarket two or three companies are out there. Now, it's, we're flushing that stuff. But back at that, go ahead. Yeah, this text makes yeah to answer your caller there that was Fred's in 14 stocks and he sold out I think this year or last year all this stuff went to tree line. I think you all have probably heard of him. He tells them 14 parts. Most of the stocks and everything and parts for the stocks and everything went to tree line. And Fred's got a few, he's got a little bit of stuff left like bandoliers and some springs and stuff. And he has some of those E2 stocks you're talking about. But they're really, the Pay Me in price right now. Thanks Tex-Mex that's what it was yeah Fred's yeah thank you anything else go ahead Tex-Mex anything else? Yeah hey what do you think of I got a guy that might have some he might want to sell some 762x51 but it's Pakistani or whatever surplus. Wait a minute I missed I'm gonna beat there what we'll repeat that again it was it has a It's 7.62x51 surplus, but it's from Pakistan. Oh, yeah, there's nothing wrong with that ammo. Okay. Yeah, if it's Pakistani, it used to be priority because remember what was Pakistan standardized on? They were building HK-91s. Remember, they were a contract house. We've never seen this, as far as I know. We've never seen any of the Pakistani G3 parts or parts kits or anything. Pakistan was a licensed manufacturer of HKs. So that's what it was built for mostly. They certainly had other weapons that were .308, but that's 7.62x51 NATO that they were making at the time. and have made is for the large collection of G3s that they keep in service and they were like the number three seller if not number two for the longest time they actually almost for a couple years beat out HK for selling the HK rifle you know any of the rifles the 5.56 and the 7.62x51 NATO they made a good product we've just never seen it So yeah, it's good ammunition. The ammunition itself, the first time that came into the country was way back in 1981, 82, right around there, and everybody fought over it, you know, tried to grab it because it was the most affordable. It was a big competitor against the Yugoslavian, we now call it PPU, but the Yugoslavian surplus. It was parallel in quality and it was a toss-up. Which one was cheaper is what you bought. So I haven't seen it in a while. Who's got it now? Oh, no, it's a friend. He's somebody said okay He's been hanging on to it for a real long time and he's he's thinking about you know downsizing a little bit Well again if he offers it if you're a good price, you know You got to make to make the decision on that if you know, is it is it reasonable? The big thing about that is I'm sure he's gonna sell it for more than what he got for it But that's the right thing to do because that's why you wouldn't bet all right right now. He's a 60 cents around Well, it's not too bad better than the average bear. It's up to you. You have may off. Is it in the what is it the pan or not pan? They're actually like great paint great cardboard box with green lettering No, no, I wish it was it's in it was off a belt. It's all okay Well, that could have been for any number of guns, but remember they also built the G21, the model 21 belt set. Yeah, they removed the tracers. All those bastards. Of course they did, they probably also shot them for the fun of it too. That's what half the people do. It's like, oh no, save that, we were going to need it later, but a bit of it, it's gone. I had We used to buy well, it's like everything we used to this is all the same thing and now it's like well We're at the point where we really really really really could have used all that But oh well, we'll go with what we got Now other why how much how much does he have how many rounds? Oh, he thinks he's got a close. He doesn't look through his Through what he's got but he thinks he's got a little less than a thousand rounds Okay Well again look for the head stamps here. It's about 60 maybe 71 73 It should be hit the head stamp. It's military. It should be dated. Okay. Yeah, I haven't seen it yet. I haven't looked at it yet Okay, yeah, so it's loose. It's gonna be loose in the ziplock bags are hopefully bagged up So it's not anywhere can if you throw the can in yeah, you can Yeah, cool. Yeah, otherwise if you're running it in an M1a Oh yeah, M1A, FAO and the G, or PTR-90. Oh, okay, so it'll shoot one or the other. If it's finicky and one, it may not be finicky and the other. Yeah. You know, remember something, you know, we got to keep reminding everybody, original G3s and original HKs guys had a pancake chamber. You know, remember they had a fluted chamber to break the adhesion on steel cases. And that contract policy existed. The barrels actually, with some of the contract countries, HK allowed them to produce them, but they had to buy HK barrels. And of course, that kept barrel production up. And it's a good way to keep control of the guns, too. But because of that, almost all of the subcontract guns have the standard HK perforated barrel. And what happens, for those of you who haven't seen this, when you fire it, people get kind of worried because a certain amount of gas breaks back around the case in the chamber and it creates, what happens is first, the case expands and you see these little waffle prints all over, it's a consistent pattern, all over the case. Well, when it expands, that's where it prints. But then a certain amount of the gas comes back along that same channel and compresses the brass or pushes on the brass while the extractor process is taking place. And it takes a whole hell of a lot less time than I just took to explain it. But what happens is you end up with this unique looking brass that actually does have a malleated print from the compression points. And a lot of people didn't want to mess with the brass. I usually get it for free, used to get it for free all the time. Because they'd fire Remington 308 or something else in the guns because they were expensive guns. And so you get free reloaded 308 brass back when the 7.62x51 NATO brass was stupid priced. and just be patient and again which have to do is a full case resize with thermal lube and that'll ensure that it compresses properly if you end up with a rifle that has the fluted chamber. So just a heads up on that and the setmes didn't didn't have that they depend on what year because remember setmes originally were made in country but then they also expanded later on and had better cooperation because they really helped to create HK. Because originally HK was in Spain working outside the country and then brought the design in Yeah, all kinds of sneaky ways for Germany to keep up production Anything else? Go ahead, please. I'm sorry. Oh, yeah. Yeah, like I said, I was I was trying to get the old The old battle rifle NATO side, like the FAL, the PTR-91 and the M1A. I just haven't gotten around to getting an AR-10 yet. Trying to figure out which way to go. I would like to get the Brownells because it was kind of like the original, but they quit making it. I probably have to buy a used one. But I have one more thing I wanted to go over with you. Something to go from yesterday with Mike from Arizona. He was talking about some of the cartel stuff on this side. Well, I was listening to a local radio show this week. It's a local classic rock and roll. And they're not really like the computer generated stuff. They have live DJs and actually talking. They're locally owned. And they always come on about you know, every hour or so and they give local news reports. And one of the, one that surprised me yesterday, which I have not heard from anywhere else in the area, this report, but the, uh, that, and I'm just like, I'm just a little north of San Antonio, you know, I'm up, I'm up north of San Antonio and this radio station is, uh, it's another town over from me. And it's about a pound of 30, 40,000 people. And, um, they were saying that to be careful to watch your kids and be careful because of cartel activity in the area. We've had a couple of kids die of fentanyl and it seems to be we've got these people running around here in this area which is a very rural and remote area. But I mean they're here so be on the lookout. It's interesting again at least At least somebody is talking about it, but it's like you said, you're going to hear it at the local level only and everybody else is told to shut their face. Or again, one of the reasons that happens, see we don't have to do that with our network, but if you're an AM or FM licensed broadcaster, you have to pick which news service they're going to shove down your throat. And you have to play it. So all you're going to hear is whatever the goo-stepping national agenda is. Whereas if it's a free floater like that group, then what they're doing is you can do your own news card and the DJs, of course, they're going to be trying to do something interesting and they're going to try to be really informative in many cases. So the cool thing is that you actually hear about what's going on and they might actually do like they did which is warn you about a threat that otherwise everybody that's politically correct will not tell you about. I got a question about H&K. Did you ever see that box gun you're making for the 911 pygmies? It looks like a box with a hole in the end. And I figured, could they make a military version 7.6.2 by .4.4? Is something a real good, powerful one? It's a box and it has a hole in the front. And it was the new model. It came out about five years ago. 8K. They said they were gonna sell it to the pigweed. Probably everything they got is 9 milliliters and they use those riot guns and stuff. I don't like the looks of it, but this 8K thing, I know you've seen it. It's like a box with a barrel. It's not like a barrel. It's a pig. There's one that always fascinates me because it's too damn lunky and part of it has to be because they're polymer. That's the only reason these things are either almost like a rectangle or they're like a I mean, there's more junk attached to the gun than there needs to be for being a pistol caliber. I'm trying to think there's, it's not HK, there's another one out there that it's like, well, that's an answer to a question that was never asked. How much crap extra junk could I put on a gun and make it look really very much cartoonish? I mean, it looks like it's something out of a Nick Fury cartoon. You know, extra angles and all kinds of them, like you grab it like you're holding a brass knuckle. only on steroids. The weapons don't make any sense to me personally because again they're too bulky. They probably have reasonable control but that's the only reason you really want something to grip would be nice. But other than that most of the other weapons that we're seeing right now the only reason you're seeing certain lines is because they've got to beef up the plastic. And that's going to be more and more of a problem because it makes the gun totally throw away. There's nothing you can do to rebuild an all-polymer weapon. You're going to have to scrap it when it gets to the point where it's not functional. You can change internal parts until, well, whatever, but remember the internal parts are more durable, metal parts, be far, far more durable than say the plastic cast hull. I see this as a real problem with the scar rifle, but I think that, but I will say something. I consider the SCAR rifle in the same category as the Stoner rifle, but without the quality. When they were done in Vietnam, the Stoner guns were chopped into pieces, guys. There was nothing wrong with the Stoner design, except that it was the Stoner design, and they really didn't want to acknowledge it was a good rifle, because it really was. It was the next Mattel Swell, you know, integrated parts system that could do anything. That's not necessarily really true with the SCAR rifle, but just like the cycle with Vietnam, they always have this featurette gun that really was only the special gun for the special guys. And that's when the, that's what, again, what the Stoner was. And the Stoner, you know, rode over into special warfare operations, etc. If you'll notice in the whole scam, and I said this years ago when they brought the SCAR up, that this is the Stoner counterpart rifle that you know, it's odd enough, only certain money is going to have it, and that's the special warfare people. The difference is, yeah, it's probably comfortable to shoot, but it's got a limited lifespan by the nature of the design. But if you've got billions and trillions of dollars to spend, you don't care. However, it's another one of those weapons that would never be seen in future, say, surplus inventory in any good, reliable quantity because, well, what's the first thing you're going to do? Chop up most of the gun. Everything is an integrated component system and the primary receiver, being what it is, most of the plastic hull would be chopped, lop, and destroyed. So you don't really get any useful parts or anything you can use for anything because you have to actually have the mold to make another big, monstrous receiver. And that's not going to be an 80% thing. It's not going to even be a home-built thing. Well, it could be if you're willing to make it out of something else. But the bottom line is, unlike the Stoner, this gun will just self-destruct on its own. It'll be, you know, piddled out the back door and chopped and locked and, you know, baked into history. But it was, it served the same purpose. If we look at the way they ended Afghanistan, Vietnam style, that's not an accident. They literally went right through step by step with all of the rah rah, pump everybody up, middle of the war, look at all the cool toys. The toys are so important. Look at all the cool toys. Look at these cool toys we have. These are cool toys, but you can't have them, but they're cool toys. And then all of a sudden they flip everything, hate America. the same football teams that had soldiers on the field and everybody dancing around and planes flying overhead. All of a sudden it says it wants to kill America, kill all the white people, hate all of you, and burn the flag. And by the way, have a foreign anthem played in the process alien to the country. Wow, what a surprise. And then finally the Vietnam last minute turned on its head disaster crash that you see with the evacuation. But it's true that but the weapon that I'm not lying. I'm not lying. I'm not fooling or joking about this There's there's a there's a macro cycle How they played this out and that's like I said years ago. This is just the Vietnam scam plugged in Same record different decade and the plastic gun played a part of that Now as far as other issues with regard to a lot of the designs are not really useful to us And there certainly could be built but there Too much trouble and not enough value not enough, you know in end result not useful So anyway, the text mix anything else? We're almost to the top here guys, by the way Okay Last but not least real quick Again, aim surplus calm. They've been getting a pitter of PPU stuff in well, that's a lot of peas They have been getting a slow but steady flow of PPU, preview partisan ammunition, in. So you really want to keep an eye on them because some of the calibers, it's about time for some of the unique stuff to show up again like the 6.5 swede. So if you have any of those Luzhamans, there's a lot of those model 42 Luzhamans out there. If you have any of the 6.5 Swedish Mausers, needless to say, you can go over to JG Sales and get the wooden bullet blanks or not blanks, wooden bullet cartridges. And use those for training. Buy the ball ammunition or the sporting ammunition for your primary shoot. And you got lots of training ammo and then you've got the ability to get out there with live stuff and zero to make sure your gun hits where it's supposed to. you got a happy rifle. The other thing here again is GunPartsCorp.com. Go take a look at their sales section for you guys with carbines. There's a few carbine, M1 carbine, got to qualify that. For those of you US model M1 carbine rifles or you know any knockoff, there is a bunch of carbine stuff they have in there. Some of it's not, it's pricey but that's because it's all collectible. However, there are a few items there that are very useful. You need to take a look and go through the inventory. Go over to GunPartsCorp.com. GunPartsCorp.com. That's www.GunPartsCorp, C-O-R-P.com. And then go to their close out clearance section. And you got to go page by page. And they flip stuff around and even double post stuff where one thing is more expensive than the other. Well, you don't mark up the one, you don't tag the one that's more expensive. Tag the one that's least expensive. look to see how it shows up in your cart. Wow look the lesser price with the better choice. I don't know who handles their page but it's one of those things where hey we live with it. The other thing there too is there are a few helmet items. Remember we've talked about this before. If you're looking for helmet nets and a few other things they do have some other stuff there for you those you have the steel helmets. and you want something to put on for, you know, camo reduction. The camo nets are a good choice and then you interweave your bits of burlap in there and you're ready to go. Actually, it's a better system to be quite honest anyway for a lot of what you do out there. Like right now, we've got this green brown transition going on. Another thing, let's see, last but not least, major surplus has got a bunch of other little sale items going on right now. You want to check their boots. especially we're looking at transition weather here. You're going to be needing rubber boots. They've got a bunch of muck boots and rubber boots for a pretty good price. They have had for $10 a pair the Cabela knockoff. Well, they're not Cabela knockoff. They're Cabela mold boots, but I don't know if they're a BLEM or whatever. I've got a bunch of them. I have no problem with them all. I just gave a pair to one of the troops here three days ago. they're brand new out of the box, they're $10 a pair, and they have them back in stock from size 8 to size 15, maybe 16. I've double-checked that, but now they go quick in the big sizes. But if you've got to kick two cows in the ass to make a pair of boots, then you might want to go check Major Surplus and see if they have those because a pair of muck boots in that size would be kind of handy to have. Another pair of boots, rather than beating the snout out of just one pair, is a really good idea. And since we're into the nasty, wet, dirty, muddy weather, the muck boots would be a good choice. They also have some of the neoprene muck boots, which are calf high. Those are a little more expensive, but not really expensive. $24 a pair for what they are. And they do have them in colors. In the O.D. green, I think they have them in coyote brown. They also have them in a gray-green-black, whatever. But the price also goes this flea market in Eastern Kentucky hazard Kentucky and you don't need to show any ID or nothing and buy whatever gun they're selling at the table I asked do they just wrap it up? No, just walk out the door with it showing and they'll hand you ammo if there's there. This is Eastern Kentucky hazard Kentucky Okay, and we are almost to the top for everybody out there guys Again, knob Creek machine gun shoot that's in Western, Kentucky is coming up this weekend, so it's the last one. If you can make it, that'd probably be a good thing. Take somebody who's never been there before, that way they have one good lasting experience before things kick off and get a chance to get a feel for things. The big thing is you get to see everything that can be shot there, and don't forget you can also rent a gun on the range You buy the ammo and they're right there with you. They'll give you a little instruction if you're not totally familiar with it. The idea is you get a chance to shoot an automatic weapon right there on the range through the day. So it is a new computer. You can fire Arnold's minigun. I'm sorry, repeat again, forgive me. I said you can fire Arnold's minigun. Yes, that's right. You can shoot whatever you want. But if you fire the minigun, it's like, my money's gone. I could have bought a car. Oh my god I should have aimed at something. Seriously guys we're talking expensive. Anyway we're gonna hear the music here should be coming up. For everybody out there the Knopf Creek machine gun use this weekend. Take the time to get on down there and be part of the last experience of Knob Creek. And take pictures because there won't be any more. God bless our Republic. Bless to the new world order. Vail, ladies and gentlemen, the Empire is on the run. And we are on the March post, day and night. He's rock. Keep him a slash, speed him around hard, don't let him get back up. And don't forget, buy more coffee. Go to Dollar Tree, take $20, buy some of the hazelnut, buy some of the french, buy some of the regular pouches, and then grab some of the El Moro. uh, espresso, uh, $20 worth. Put in a container and buy some more later. Coffee is like gold. It's very spindly. Anyway, get on the way for now. Edward's taking over. We'll be back tomorrow. Same time. God bless you all. Stay focused and be the solution rather than complaining about the problem. Bye-bye.