has started. Mr. Laswell, this is, um, he says, I've been listening to you boys and girls recite the Pledge of Allegiance all semester. And it seems as though it's becoming monotonous to you. If I may, may I recite it and try to explain to you the meaning of each word. I, me, an individual, a committee of one, pledge. dedicate all of my worldly goods to give without self-pity, allegiance, my love and my devotion to the flag, our standard, O glory, a symbol of freedom. Wherever she waves, there's respect because your loyalty has given her a dignity that shouts freedom is everybody's job. United. That means that we have all come together. States. Individual communities that have united into 48 great states. 48 individual communities with pride and dignity and purpose. All divided with imaginary boundaries yet united to a common purpose. And that's love for country. And to the republic. Republic. A state in which sovereign power is invested in representatives chosen by the people to govern. And government is the people. And it's from the people to the leaders. Not from the leaders, to the people. For which it stands. One nation, one nation. Meaning, so blessed, my God. Indivisible. Incapable of being divided. With liberty. Which is freedom. the right of power to live one's own life without threats, fear, or some sort of retaliation. And justice, the principle, or qualities of dealing fairly with others. For all. Which means, boys and girls, it's as much your country as it is mine. And now, boys and girls, let me hear you recite the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country and two words have been added to the pledge of allegiance under God. Wouldn't it be a pity? If someone said that is a prayer and that would be eliminated from schools too. I dreamed the other night that, well I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three cornered hat and speaking low to me he said, we fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost. You're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You've I permit to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate. And your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press. And you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper, so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. This number, you trade it in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm, so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. And keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children will be. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave. O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and eat God-given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as Tyrant trampled each god-given right, we only watched him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave, dill the land of the free? Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. This is the evening. Intelligence report timer, currency. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories, southwest, north, northeast, and south. Ladies and gentlemen, you were listening to us on LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com Liberty Tree Radio on satellite. We're also on AM&FM micro stations, AM&FM conventional stations, CB Bay Station is an ultra net hallmark and golden spike technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. It has been a beautiful day, beautiful sunset, heading to evening hour now of course. It is 809 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. It is Weapons Wednesday. It is the 29th of September, SEP, September. God, we're going to lose it in a minute, but I almost threw it off the door along the most of October in the two-hour block. Yeah, it ain't October. It sure is only October 29th. Anyway, so it's the 13th of 13th year of open Fabian socialist and Soviet socialist occupation of America with the K 2021 old earth calendar. 2021 Battle for the Republic, the dance of sorts. Let the dance begin. Hold my bullets for a minute. Couple things here, little ideas or big ideas really because it will save your life down the road. One of the nice things about light rifles, and this is true even to these new 9mm car beans that are out there, is you can stash a lot of ammunition all over your body and really not be all that noticeable. If you're wearing a decent coat or a jacket, you can carry a couple of magazines for whatever weapon you're carrying if it's a pistol caliber. On your belt, we normally would for even a concealed carry, which probably you have both on your person. If you have especially the Glock magazine capable light carbines that are out there, Obviously, it would be kind of making sense to have a Glock. I mean, not everybody likes them. I think they're interesting. Of all firearms, it's fun. All firearms are fun. Okay, first of all, always remember that. Doesn't mean it's what it is. But what's interesting, even if you didn't like Glock, it's the idea that Glock makes sense because if you've got the carbine with a Glock mag, you might as well get the Glock pistol, or at least the cheapest one available for the price that fits your wallet and does the job. The advantage you really can't make a mistake with magazines and you don't have to memorize, you know, remember which kind of just go in. High point pistols and carbines can do the same thing and there are a couple of other weapons like the Marlin camp carbine. You can mate it up with the 9 millimeter to its 9 millimeter pistol counterpart for magazines and you can also with the Marlin camp carbine remember 45 ACP 1911 mags. That was a nice little rifle that they just made disappear. And I don't think it's an accident. It's one of those things where it had good following. I think it would have developed very, very quickly if Marlin were to bring it out right now or the Marlin line. Needless to say, it would be competing against other air guns that maybe they don't have any competition against. You know what I mean? But the advantage is, like with the M1 carbine, is a 15-round mag flat. 15 rounds staggered magazine, about the size of less than a pack of cigarettes. Now heavier, but you can put one in every pocket you've got. If you've got four pocket pants, put one in each magazine in each pocket. You got a shirt with a couple of pockets, put one in each pocket there. If you've got a little slip mag pouch for a couple of mags, put a couple on your belt. Then you're wearing a field jacket or just a regular two pocket jacket, you put a mag in each one of those. Now, If you got six pockets in a pair of pants, that's six times 15, what's that come to? It's like 90 rounds right there. Now you got a couple of mags, that's another 30 rounds, so that's 120. We'll just go two pockets on a shirt or even just one pocket. We'll just give you another 15 rounds, right? If we just give you another 15 rounds, that's 135 rounds available. But then I still have my coat pocket, my coat jacket pocket, so we'll just go to, that's another 30. I'm carrying almost a combat load between all the pockets in my clothing. And a couple of mag, a couple of mag flips on the bag, on the belt line. Which could be more, you can put two. You put two on each side to balance it out, so the symmetry. It means that it's not as easy to see because people if they see balance they don't think as much about it. When they see a bulge in one spot and bulges in on the other side, that's what draws people's attention. A gun or something evil. So the neat thing is for these little clock mags, you don't go the big 31 or 33 rounders, you just go standard clock mags. And you can distribute them around your body. The other cool thing about it is body weight distribution of that type means that there's no great stress put in any part of your anatomy. That makes for a very comfortable and convenient way to actually have a whole hell of a lot of firepower on board. Now you can still have a big tote bag full of magazines, which is really fun because that could have another 400 rounds if you wanted to have 300. If you wanted it, it's going to get heavy after a while. But you can put a shoulder bag on and you still have all the other mags that you're carrying as your emergency ammo. That's a lot of emergency ammo, about 160 to 200 rounds, depending on how many pockets you have. Go ahead, call and jump in there, please. Hey, Mark, this is Irish Whiskey. I just wanted to mention real quick, along the same lines as what you're talking about, I've got a Kel-Tec sub-2000 in 9mm that I picked up. And I found that that folding Kel-Tec sub-2000, it actually fits perfectly in the laptop compartment of a small day pack or book bag size backpack. And so with having that sub-2000 in the padded laptop case and then having six of the high capacity magazines, the Glock 27 rounders as well as the Korean 33 rounders, having six of those, I mean, that's a lot of fire power in a very concealable package. Right. Well, again, it's perfect for just exactly that kind of situation, out of sight, out of mind. But the moment you bring it into service, you're effectively able to defend yourself. It's always better to have three points of control rather than two. And with a pistol, it's going to be two. One hand, other hand. Two hands, combat grip. With a tripod station, you end up with that much more stability, greater length and barrel, other options for sighting. And like you said, fits into a small package. So you can be creative about it. It can be a handheld bag, it can be a shoulder bag, or like you said, a backpack or a school pack. If you're doing a school pack, the other thing you do is grab one of those body armored or make it a body armored bag so you're actually carrying at least back armor and the weapon and the magazines all stationed on board ready to roll, which should be pretty cool. Plus you're still carrying a pistol if you want to, right? Or you can have it in the bag with the gun racked up. That's an option. Yes, absolutely. I actually have for that particular setup. I mean, I've got multiple setups, but that particular one I've got a Glock that goes along with that rifle. So I've got mags between both of them. So it all works out. Excellent. By the way, which model, which, there's at least three or four variations on that particular carbine, isn't there? The one that I have is the Gen 2 of the sub-2000. When I purchased it, it was actually set up for the Smith & Wesson M&P mags. And I did not have that pistol platform, so I actually ordered the plastic part, the grip component, as well as the magazine catch from Kel-Tec. It was real easy to order on the website. And I swapped it out to handle Glock mags, which is what I wanted since my pistol platform that complimented it was the Glock platform. But yeah, as far as a rifle, I mean, it's accurate, it works great if you practice with it and are used to shooting it. Well, that's another thing now. You're bringing up modular components, several guns, including several of the handguns that are out there made by HK or made by, let's see, SIG. Several of the companies have modular component pistols that allow for you to change out quite a bit, both the lower grip assembly, extend it, shorten it, complete whole frame bodies, you know, because of the way that they built these guns. the working mechanism is a drop in into a chassis. And what's neat about that is where you have the option started out with 40 with whatever nine or 40 caliber Smith and Wesson in the magazines for the MP M&P. The neat thing is you actually have the ability to carry that in the field. It doesn't take up much space, right? Yeah, actually with that rifle, I think there's at least three if not or well, actually I think there's more than that, different variations. And all you have to do is just swap out the plastic grip housing or the plastic grip. And then depending on the magazine, you may have to just swap out the magazine catch. But yeah, I mean, it's just they're very lightweight plastic parts and I saved them of course. And so then hey, I've got a box of parts for it so it can always be swapped back back to you. Well, here's a question. Okay, I would expect that the M and P, obviously the Glock, but what were the other mag options, Beretta 92? Yes, there was Beretta 92 and then on the on the Glock, there's actually two different variations, the Glock 17 or the Glock 19 variations. Ah, okay. Yeah, see now again, that's one of those things where because it's modular, it would be a sensible Field package to actually hook up to actually have you know a ring station with elastic I'd wrap the parts up though, so they wouldn't be messed up dirty or dusty when I wait if I had to switch them out But you can set up quite an interesting little escape from New York slash post-World War three apocalypse Combat kit that would allow you to take him use pretty much anything you pick up in the field Which would make sense? So it's not a, that's again, another one of the advantages of several of these different modular units that are out there. And the big advantage is not much combat weight for, you know, or again bulk for what it provides in the way of security. I mean, that the Kel-Tex are all tight little packages to begin with. Everybody either likes them or they make noise about them because they just don't like the fact that they're unique designs. But that's Kel-Tex niche and there's always been somebody down there in Florida doing that. Before when they weren't quite as innovative, you know again The point people that brought you playing field and the people that brought your universal carbine bunch of different competitors Out of Hellea, they did a whole hell of a lot of work and they weren't the only ones because you had other independent manufacturers have built independent designs That have disappeared into the shadows. I think the only guy that's really well He's not the only one but one of the best is forgotten weapons because he's been covering a lot of the pre-1990 firearms that were developed after Vietnam but really came into their own in the 1980s. And a lot of these designs, I truly believe, I've never really looked deep into it, but I really believe the guys that helped, that put Kel-Tech together either by idea or physically building the company that they were tied in with these other company years ago. because there's a lot of different ideas that no other weapon carries that they have. Some of them actually are quite spook and kookish. You know, it's like their sniper rifle that has the forward eject system so you don't leave any brass laying around. That's unique, okay, and that really is specialized, and I can see a Where anybody, you know, government would bad mouth it so it wouldn't direct people towards the weapon system or make you think about, well, why would you do that? Well, the only reason you'd do that is so you could throw whatever brass is in the plastic bag on the ground to claim that that was what we shot while the actual ammunition is accumulated and kept in a forward hopper, you know, where it is no possibility of losing the actual spent brass. So... Don't poo-poo, Kel-Tec. Kel-Tec has, I am sure, a very unique in the shadows following because a lot of their weapons, well not all of them, could have very, very unique special application. Again, special tools in the toolbox. You don't use them all the time, but when you use it that one time, pays for all the time you carried it. And again, as is typical of the 9 .40 caliber .45 or .380 Auto or take your pick .40 Smith, any of these light rifles, guys, felt recoil is non-existent. It is, they're very comfortable to handle. They're easy to shoot, easy to store. And so don't blank them out. In fact, for a good portion of you that are listening, those weapons are sufficient for most of the work that you would probably be doing very soon. And in fact, with other modification tools, you know, once the war kicks off, there are no rules, you know that, right? Once the war kicks off, there are no rules. A lot of these weapons lend themselves towards improvements in terms of noise production and other issues. So, something to think about there. Anything else, call or jump in here, please. Well, as far as the Kel-Tech goes, I mean, having a bunch of different systems and having shot a bunch of different things. As far as my perspective on the Kel-Tec, I mean, it is, the internals are quite complicated and it is something that you have to be very careful as far as I would. I would not disassemble it in the field all the way down because it's a lot of little springs and pieces you have to try to hold into place. And when taking it completely apart, putting it completely back together, But as far as for what it's for, I would definitely, I mean it's great. It works, functions perfectly and I have noticed that those Caltechs, the sub-2000s are, have been available and I have seen them for sale on several of the different websites. So, and price-wise, I mean they're about, they're about where they have been. So, that is one solution. Yeah, another thing about this for everybody is combat weight. If you're a pilot or if you're an armored crewman or a vehicle operator, this is the perfect little package stash weapon that you can have with you all the time. That's why when the original Bushmaster pistol was built, that's how it was promoted. The most powerful handgun in the world, even though Dirty Harry claimed that was a Smith & Wesson Model 29, that was the advertising comment for the Bushmaster bullpup pistol. And for what it was supposed to do, or as it was originally intended, it was perfect. It was designed to get you out of trouble. It was designed to put fire power downrange but minimize space. When it wasn't being used, it was out of the way. When it was needed, it could be applied, you know, coming out of the toolbox as is, and it did exactly what it was promised, you know, it promised it would do, okay? I only kicked myself in the butt because I had so many of those at one time or another and I didn't keep any of the original ones, the earliest ones, and I should have. The first models are top eject, the second models on those Bushmaster pistols are side eject. It's the same name as the company Bushmaster that does the AR, but these are a totally different weapon altogether and yes, that's also the sister, that pistol is the sister to the Bushmaster rifle. Now in the Bushmaster pistol, that was .223, .556. The weapons we're talking about here are all in pistol or what would be called saddle carbine calibers. And remember you used to have the, when you see a Winchester, okay, understand guys that don't think .30-30 when you look at a Winchester. .32-20, .38-20. There were a number of different short stroke Winchester pistol calibers. And by the way, yes, Winchester made some pistols, but also Colt produced and Smith produced pistols in the Winchester short case cartridges, 4440. 44 Russian, another one. Now when they did these, you look at the size of a Model 73 Winchester. and look at the lengths of some of the barrels. Understand that those were not chambered in a full length rifle case or even a mid length. They were done in the short stroke single action or double action pistol cartridges. They were the assault rifle of their day and provided a tremendous amount of firepower in a relatively small and very reliable action. Now, when you needed, if for some reason you had something come upon you rather than the swinging the gun around, you kept the pistol handy, there wasn't any complication in figuring out which to use for what because both guns use the same caliber. The difference with the rifle as we pointed out, three points of contact and remember, stability, greater length and barrel, greater velocity for the round. And again with the little, like the kel-tech, the high points, The let's see what are the other ones are out there right now HK of course has one or more one same as with Steyer Everybody has something in this niche obviously most of them were spin-offs of the submachine gun families that are out there They're not some machine guns first of all they do not fire from the open bolt Nor do they fire from the closed bolt and then go select full auto. They are all Again, fix or forgive me, float flexible firing pin firing from the closed bolt by law and Again, because of that a lot of the motor interaction that creates some difficulty or hardship for inexperienced shooters disappears from the carbine designs One thing you remember about you know, automatic fire with an open bolt gun you have to first familiarize yourself with the physical motion of the weapon. Because firing from the open bolt, it slam fires, it drops forward, firing pin makes contact with the primer, slap fires it, and then of course the bolt is pushed back into battery, in the station, forgive me. Everything interlocks, interworks, the ejection takes place, and it repeats it again. It takes me a whole hell of a lot longer than it does for something to go, bit of bit of bit of bit of bit of bit of bit of bit of bit of bit of bit. But the big thing about this is that when you switch over to semi-auto with a closed bolt system, most all of that unique motion that you ride if you're in an automatic fire, it doesn't exist. So big advantage is you start to tighten up your accuracy in groups. Needless to say with a quick little trigger finger, you can still keep up with a standard submachine gun, except maybe in dumping the full magazine in a consistent rhythmic pattern that can not be separated from the original automatic weapon. In other words, just pull the trigger fast. Usually you hiccup it about between 31 and 35. Just the nature of your finger getting tired or not quite lining up or whatever. Trust me, I've seen it a million times. But what's cool about this is again these guns are a viable solution if you're young you got young people if you have ladies and they don't want the bigger weapon they don't really feel that they need it but they do want you know you they do they are willing to be armed and this is a good choice because It will help them to consider perhaps changing out even upgrading to a heavier weapon for their personal defense Remember, get somebody involved by giving them a tool that is comfortable, reliable, and simple to understand. No matter who the shooter is, I'm not just for the ladies, everybody. Remember, kiss, keep it simple, stupid. Why? Well, because you know, you bollocks up too much stuff and people get confused about the issue and eventually the gun gets laid down. So the advantage of these designs are very reliable and fully functional the way that they are. We have a caller. Who do we have? Okay, and we are right at the bottom of the hour and I'll tell you what Edward if you could our traditional weapons Wednesday bottom of the hour break For everybody this is what without before my right What come ye hither, red goat? What mind you madness builds in our valleys? There is danger, and there's danger in our hills. Oh, hear ye not just singin' all of the views of wild and free. But soon you'll know the ringin' of the rifle from the tree, who the rifle, or the rifle, in our hands will prove no dry bone. You may ride a good lead speed, you may not turn them after. You forward march with speed, but you'll learn the back-switch faster when you meet our mountain boys. And the leader just starts glad to make what's a little noise and always hits the mark. Hold the rifle, hold the rifle. In our hands we'll prove no trifle. Still graves at home, packets across the briny water, As giddy must come, as well as to the slaughter. But if we the job must do, then the sooner it is begun. If Vincent's figure holds a buck through, the quicker it will be done. Oh, the rifle, oh, the rifle, In our hands, we'll prove no right-ful. Oh, the rifle, oh, the rifle, In our hands, we'll prove no right-ful. Alright, we are back and that tump-tump is the cap and ball or earlier still the pan, plintlock, pan and charge. Remember that? Tuck-boom! Tuck-boom! So for everybody out there again, this is my rifle. Remember, I am useless. And that's why again, if you make it convenient enough, man, people might actually hang on to it, keep it with them and stick it nearby. One of the things we're talking about are light carbenes, flash saddle rifles. Again, these weapons are a lot lighter than the average smallest AR-15 with the exception of maybe the full Polymer AR-15s, the 80% Polymer lower or one crazy lower with a Polymer upper and all the rest, lightest parts available. You can build an AR-15 down to about five pounds for an M4 knockoff and it's easily done right now. The big thing is though that again, simplicity, something we're talking about, at least for ease and use, the AR-15 is very user friendly. These light carbines are also very user friendly. And they've added features on a lot of them, including ambidextrous controls, the option to reconfigure the gun as was mentioned in so many different ways, not just simply with the magazine well, but barrel change out any number of different items with regard to optics. So you can pretty well tailor it to a combination of your wallet and you know again performance needs. What do you expect and what do you want from this thing? Another nice thing about the saddle carbines and by the way I'm not excluding, I think I should qualify this, I'm not excluding the lever guns. The Henry rifles of course have all been reinvented or out there now but a lot of people have Winchester Model 94's. Now, granted, that won't be a match-up if it's in 30-30, but there were a lot of Winchesters made in the late 70s that were done in the pistol calibers and their actual Winchesters. Some are octagon barrel, those are too collectible to be shooting, you could be better off selling them unless it's an inheritance, a family inheritance thing, we've discussed this before. If it's something you just ran into, The gun is probably worth more even though it's a reproduction of a hundred year earlier Winchester. These Winchester's that were made in the 70s are now 50 years in our taillights guys. That's 50 years ago. They started making these things in 70, 71. The medallion car beans and also matching pistols. Now, if you do have some of these, I recommend, especially since you didn't get rid of the box, don't get rid of the box. They have boxes, the paperwork, everything makes a collectible gun like that even more valuable, okay? But they did make shooter counterparts. Now, they were not as common in some areas, like up here in Michigan. I sold a ton, and I mean a ton of those medallion Winchester's. They were in a number of different unique traditional older pre-1900 Winchester Calibers too. But they were also done in standard factory 30, 30, 30, 32, 30, well 32 Winchester Special as it's called, which it's just 32 win is what it is. It's the one of many Calibers available on the same case, same Same case, same length of case, but just with an up or down scale projectile. They went all the way down to 17 caliber in that case. Custom ordered, okay. But the lever action guns in 38 special, 357 Magnum, then the Rossi counterparts, there's tons of those out there. In fact, that's been reborn in the old Mares shank or whatever. You see it on Firefly, you've seen a number of other movies. That's the Winchester chopped down. Well, if it's done the way it's supposed to be, it's not done in the 30-30. That was done when it was chopped down in like 44-40, which means a much shorter cartridge, which means you don't just get two or three rounds out of the magazine tube. You get six, seven, or eight, making it comparable to the pistols out there, but a little more barrel length, so you got a little more bite when it gets to target. Another thing is, let's not forget the era we were just talking about. In the 70s, the commando car beans were big. Now, you start to see these at estate sales because the people who bought them back in the late 60s and 70s and 80s are either getting your retirement or going to assisted living or they're dying. And the commandos, the mark trees have, now, you've got to remember whenever I say this, While they were making these they had different production runs and they had the they had nomenclature Overlapping from one gun to the next now the whole series of the commando they look like a Thompson some have a vertical foregrip some have a horizontal foregrip in Both cases they have a full carbine length barrel. They have to by law, but they're in 45 ACP So the barrel length really can't be any longer than the minimal barrel length or you start to lose performance with the 45. Always remember that 45 ACP is much slower round. Anyway, obviously it was very popular 45 ACP 1911 and a commando carbine either a Mark III which it could be a round receiver with a vertical foregrip like it looked like a round body Thompson. There aren't constants understand that the original commandos were open bolt if you have those hide them if you run into an oh if you run into a wasp or a Marlin Defender or for instance one of these commando carbines and it's an open bolt shut up Don't show anybody Make it disappear and keep it out of sight, out of mind and don't even let the wife know about it probably. Okay, you've got to work that out yourself. You can tell her whatever you want about it. The reason, well, it's not readily convertible, but it is much more friendly towards improved firepower when the time comes. But you do not want to do that now. I mentioned the wasp. There were a number of other carbines that were made just before they banned open bolt light carbines. Basically what these were were submachine gun variants and I'll tell you what they mostly did with the guns. There are two guide trough lines in the base of the bolt carrier. Instead of being cut through The way that they restricted the full-auto option is because of the way the indexer was below the bolt. They simply only milled the front and the rear and they left the middle solid. Well, if you just run a tool in a straight line and cut the proper depth and trough, all of a sudden that wasp or other open bolt carvings can very quickly do it. Their sister counterpart in the military configuration did. So don't tell anybody, don't call anybody and ask about them. If you run into an open bolt, 9mm or 45 ACP, anything, shut up, act like it operates from the closed bolt. In other words, remember, what I mean by this, if you're not familiar, some of you aren't. When you cock the weapon back, when you cock the the grab the charging handle, pull the bolt to the rear, the bolt will lock. It's not locking because there is a last round lock lock mechanism. It's because the weapon is a slam fire type gun and when you lock it to the rear, it's engaged with the sear When you pull the trigger, the bolt slides forward, picks up the round, slaps the back of it while it's seated in the chamber, the cartridge is, and it pops, it pushes the bolt back, and the whole process starts over again until you release the trigger, which of course engages the sear slash the retainer cam properly so that it blocks further action. Now, there was no big deal when they built the WAS, the commandos, the airmen, and all a bunch of the others that are out there. These carbines or pistols, some of them were pistols like the Mac-10, if they're in the open bolt configuration and you find them at a gun, at a state sale or at a, you know, a rummage sale or something like that. Ask them how much they want, confirm that you're sure that's what you want for it, fantastic, pay them. And here's what I would do. If you have any knowledge about disassembling it, I would pop the bolt and put the bolt somewhere else right away, like away from the rest of the gun. Make sure you bag it, make sure you conceal it properly in the trunk, make sure everything's out of sight, out of mind. Take it somewhere away from your property and stash it. Seriously. Well Mark, you're starting parent. No, no. I understand people are stupid. They will, if you make any comment, we'll point to your machine gun. People will repeat that you have a machine gun, even though it's not a machine gun. The idiot sticks do this, or people who do this to be spiteful do it when you have an AR-15. Imagine what it's like if they have something else that they can yap about. So again, in the future, these would be useful. The biggest issue is knowing what to do when the time comes and if you get a little referencing from allies It's really not that difficult, but it does require a little bit of motor skill to accomplish the test So it's not easily done. It's it's not readily convertible However, the argument from the backpack it says they just wanted to get that those these gone out of the way because that way nobody could And the rest is history as they say so this is this is one of those 1980s things Okay with you know where George Herbert Walker Bush was doing all the anti-gun stuff that he could Now another thing real good call given there He's tied down Oh, we got two voices go ahead. Well. I think the other guy called in first Okay, okay Anyway, I called I called last I was talking about a night vision of an ocular I found on army Navy calm Thank you. Actually did some shopping around and I found them cheaper Now the one on army Navy it has like the head harness It's like the monocular like the PBS 14 and it's got the harness and they're charging a lot of money for that so I went on eBay and There's a lot of night vision monoculars out there that are digital now and there's not a lot of them that are Gen 1 and the company Firefield And there was another one called Yukon which made the Gen 1 rifle scopes they also made these monoculars which were able to operate as like a PBS 14 but weren't Gen 3, they're actually Gen 1. And the Gen 1 analog night vision, I have a fire field and I can tell you that versus a digital, it works much better. Now in complete darkness, your digital night vision is not gonna work without an IR light. But the analog one if it's like complete darkness, but you do have some ambient light from the moon or the stars You're going to be able to see a whole lot more with analog night in them, so I found this one on eBay there's there's quite a few of them on here. It's called the Yukon Spartan SPA RT a n and there's some different models of these, but they're basically They're selling for about $250 for a monocular. Then they sell a mount called the Tactical Fast Helmet Mount. If you do a search for the Yukon Night Vision Spartan, the mount comes up as well. So the mount is about 80 bucks, and then you'd be looking at spending another 80 to 100 bucks on the ballistic helmet. with the mount on the helmet to accept the mount to be able to hold the monocular in place. Now, you were talking earlier, you understand there's going to be a lot of people that are going to be wanting to help, but they're not going to be able to contribute in like a tactical manner. So you're going to have some people that are built basically just to be a scout. And a lot of these people are going to have to have some kind of night vision along with some kind of radio when they go out even if they don't have a gun they can still see what's going on. And this kind of night vision, I mean a PBS Even a Gen Q Plus, the minimum you're going to be paying is about $16,000 and $1,800. But to get it Gen 1, you figure the amount, $80, helmet, $80, that's $160 plus another $250. So you're probably looking at about $400 for just a flip down Gen 1. And if you wanted to buy a cheap IR light on the side of the helmet, you can just cap it. and turn it on and then tap it again and turn it off. That's not a bad setup. And I don't hear a lot of people calling in and talking about night vision. And the reason I mention it is because if they do a kind of lights out scenario that I think they're going to do, your lasers and red dots are going to be worthless, useless. You will not be able to see the hand in front of your face. I'm down here in Florida. We've been through hurricanes where it's like you walk outside, all the lights are out. You can't see anything. So to have a Gen 1 to where you can just flip it down, it's a world of difference. Well, again, the Gen 1, the basic advantage here with the Gen 1 is the idea that you do not necessarily have to have the illuminator for most of the work you're doing. and the eliminator is purely an enhancer. The digital is more forgiving of mistakes made with white light or thermal light like, you know, thermal light staring at a fire as Don would warn everybody about. Don Betcher, my co-host, passed away from a friend for many years. That was his niche. In fact, I let him work and in fact I routed all of the experimental stuff that we were finding especially end of Vietnam post Vietnam R&D stuff where they did XM, the experimental models. Some of the stuff that we got that he had a chance to play with before he passed away were one-of-a-kind pieces of equipment. It doesn't mean there weren't quite a few built, it's just that it was only for experimental use. First gen went a lot farther even than the models that we see in terms of performance. But again, it overlapped. There's almost like a gen one and a half to 1.5. And it's like there's a gen 2.5, which in reality ended up being gen 3. There's a gen 4 originally referenced as a you know, a Gen 3 on steroids. You remember, Don brought this up many times that basically there wasn't a real significant improvement between Gen 3 and Gen 4 except for durability. And that was really where the advantage was. Otherwise, no, you had a little improvement in imagery, but it was so minimal that it really was not significant and worth paying so many thousands of dollars more for. Well, you know, I'm assuming... I'm assuming people out there listening to the show don't have a lot of money and I'm trying to offer some information. Exactly, no, no, no, I am. But there may be people out there that have an unbelievable amount of money and can afford something called the Knox NLX18. That is a thermal monocular. It's $6,200. And it's a 60 hertz refresh rate. And then they've got the Trigicon M250, which is basically the same thing. And you can go on YouTube and type this in. Type in N-O-X space 1-8 and they'll show you. Someone bought it, you know, and they're looking at a pasture full of cows. And the clarity is unbelievable. And that would be perfect if you were a scout. You know, you can see the difference between a cow and a sheep and a fox at 1,500 yards with a little 18 millimeter minutular. That would be ideal if you have $6,200 but a lot of people don't and if you don't have a night vision yet The reason I stress it is because it's a possibility that the lights may go out Well, it's a problem, you know, you're absolutely right But it's a probability because it's one of the first things that they've argued they used in foreign operations in the last 30 40 50 years repeatedly We'll take, we'll control the night. The only people they can do that with initially anymore, as far as armies go, most everybody has got some night vision, or at least one model or another, and they've committed heavily to it so everybody has one. That was one of the significant goals that China set several years ago, and they do have night vision for every man in the field. or for that matter, every man and or woman that they put, you know, into a combat environment. On our side, a lot of people do, a lot of people have it and bought it frivolously, which I understand. I mean, after all, America does have a little bit of money to play with. So a lot of people have bought night vision and just piddled with it and then threw it off the site. That's how I've gotten some of the stuff that we've been experimenting with, like the digital. I've picked up digital units that are, you know, from a few years back. for a couple of dollars. Nobody knew what it was and it was the family who bought the thing. I was like, okay, well where did this come from? What will we go to the enforcement's guide? Well, it's, and I'm reading the information out of it as far as what's on the machine. There was no paperwork anymore. It turned out it was a first generation digital night fishing device. Works fine, okay. It worked for what it was intended to do. And its performance range is acceptable, as I pointed out in talking with Don, we actually worked with a little bit to compare notes. For somebody who's a support individual, not even necessarily combat, they're going to need night vision for the very reason you're talking about. Everything shut down, pitch black. There's no ambient secondary light except from stellar activity that are bombs in the distance, you know what I mean. Other than burning cities in the distance, hey, they'll offer some reflection off the clouds. But the fact of the matter is that it's only the starlight or lunar activity that's going to give you any supplemental illumination light for collection. And first gen, go ahead. I guess as far as a scout goes, or anybody for that matter, the reason they make these helmets with the flip-down monocular is because when you flip it down and you're using it, your hands are free. Your hands are able to do other things. And that's why it's like you can go buy a monocular, a handheld monocular that does not mount on a helmet. But in order for it to be useful, you have to take your arm and bring it up to your eye and then look around and then put it back down to do what you were going to do with that hand. Whereas if you have it on the helmet, It's hands-free. You can do whatever you need to and if you have it, it's the same thing You can buy a rifle mounted night vision, but in order for it to be useful You're constantly bringing it up to your head and people you know that make these videos They one of the constant complaints is I didn't know this was in order to use this to go out in the field and hunt hogs You have to constantly bring this up to your your face and look through it and after you do that for a few hours You know your arms get tired. Whereas if you've got it on your head in the front of your eye you've got your other two hands to do what you need to do and that's perfect for a scout because if they're monitoring an area they can use their other two hands for you know, maybe getting on a radio or You know or something like that, but that's ideal is to have the the monocular and the reason I'm bringing the things called the Yukon Spartan and they've got them on eBay for like 250 bucks. Yeah, you can use it as a handheld, but it's got two screw holes for a J-arm, which would mount to an interface to a helmet. So you put it on a helmet, you can flip it down and walk and run and do whatever else you need to do. Again, this is one of the options that everybody needs to take into consideration. First generation night vision devices are a priority. LPOPs, security activities, and remember we're also in the twilight zone here because we're not kicked off yet. Don't forget that you can take not just the illuminator you've got, but you can buy either infrared lenses that will go over white light, or you can buy IR LED illuminators and you can create your own ultra bright useful non damaging illuminators for separate use from the night vision device and observe an area separate from where the illuminators are. If one person is carrying the illuminator, we've done this quite successfully. But in this demi peacetime environment, it's not a big deal. Nobody is for the most part going to be realizing what you're doing. in an operational security situation in the future, you probably wouldn't be using the illuminators, but you can under a high threat condition after all. I think everybody's got a good idea where everybody is. The big thing here is that again, the illuminator isn't attached to the night vision device. It's actually separate and you have a man with a separate mission of washing down the battlefield or the FIBA, a forward edge, of the battle area with infrared light using either direct control or indirect control with either wireless or wired switching. And you hit a light, it's like a poplar going off. Anything in that area is going to reflect, it's going to identify, and you put fires on the target. So there's a lot of unique ways you can creatively get all of this stuff that is not necessarily latest cutting edge, to not only create a bit of a threat, but become a significant force on the battlefield. And not only that Mark. It's a matter of knowing how the tools work to make them work for you. Go ahead. If you do have the Gen 1, like whatever Gen 1 you have, if it's a monocular, if it's a flip down and you're out reconning, you will also be able to see if anyone else using IR. Whether in a static situation or if they've got a setup where you've got a patrol coming through and they're just you know intermittently hitting their IR to see better, you're gonna be able to see that from quite a bit of distance. If it's a bright IR and you only have Gen 1, you're still gonna be able to see it from 800 or a thousand yards away. Exactly. And one of the advantages here again is that that's basically what we call passive collection, which is originally how most everybody was taught to be. You don't bring attention to yourself. You use your weapon as a counter tool to what are considered to be priority threats. In this case, the other guy on the other side would night vision technology. So in fact, the Russians primarily, everybody goes, well, the Russians have collection capability. But they don't have emitter capability depending on which scope it was everybody was looking at. Now the IR collection scopes were designed so that they could passively monitor the battlefield and put a bullet where it needed to be. You start lighting up the area, they're curious, wow, I'm looking over the scope, I don't see any light. I look back into my emitter, I've got blips, I've got flashes over there. Well, it's obviously somebody generating infrared light, you know, an infrared illuminator, that, infrared illumination. Well, that can only mean one thing. And so, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, or in this case with the dragon off, the guy just goes, boom. Or you just hit the scalp, somebody just radios in. Hey, I've got some activity over here, some IR activity. And better still, you don't want to get on the radio and say, I've got some people using IR over here. You want to develop customized 10 codes for that thing. Just get on there and say, hey, how you guys doing? Do you have this? Because I have this. Whatever you've got to develop your own ten codes for your own group that way nobody knows what's going on But if you have a scout out in the Recon in an area or he's observing one side of your community and He sees IR life He needs to be able to radio in and not scare the people if you're also on the same channel by saying yeah I've got some guys over here using IR you need to come check it out. You don't want that you just want to have the scout let base know that there's activity. Right, you'll use a phonetic code for pass and for request for fires even. If you have, you know, guys, thank you for bringing this up because even at night, although the M203 is no artillery piece, it is the replacement for the short mortar units that used to be attached and integrated to most military forces on the planet. The Grenadiers in working in teams can work just like a small missile battery. They're not missiles, they're just again intermediate short-range grenade. But guys, once a person becomes proficient with them, being able to call in that kind of support is kind of handy. You don't have to expose yourself and if everybody has proper benchmark or control or you use tags and flags, In other words, you even use laser or benchmark IR LEDs as the targeting system so that everybody understands where to aim and who to shoot. The laser mine is an option too. You can make up the equivalent to a laser tripwire system or you can use again infrared LEDs. Now if a guy has got night vision, he'll know what you did, but by the time he realizes that, oh, he knows what you did, Boom, boom, boom. There's already three rounds coming in. And by the way, that could also be a mortar you just called. So especially with defense in depth, where you have the ability to employ every swing and dink that you have, then everybody with night vision is a great enhancement. And especially since most can be passively operated. That's the other half of the battle here. Don't forget you can throw smoke you can throw illumination flares you can do everything else to clutter up the the the visible light spectrum wherever it wherever possible and that has Telling effect on the operation trust me anyway, it's good point, but we are at the top Oh, we're way past the top one clock. I've got three different times with three different atomic clocks Don't tell me they're not mucking with the signals here guys. I mean not just here, but everywhere Uh, it is 903. I got 903. So, everybody out there, remember, if you do commit to night vision, you also have to make sure you understand what batteries do you need and whenever possible, try to get rechargeable. It doesn't mean that you can't use throwaways. You can. AA batteries are a really good choice. But a lot of your equipment's gonna be 123 or other unique color sources if it's foreign, if it's from overseas. Anyway, God bless our Republic. You are the solution people, remember that. There are no bad ideas. If we have a thousand people doing a thousand things differently as team leaders, you are unpredictable and that is an advantage. You'll find out if the idea works or it doesn't. OJP is how it is here. In fact, the matter is, everything will work at one point or another, and we'll change to important. We're in the other way for now. Ed taking over, more LTR coming up. And we're headed towards Anabuksemp. God bless.