August 11, 2021
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2h 2m
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2021
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Mark Koernke discussed weapons maintenance, preparedness, and firearms inventory on Weapons Wednesday. He covered proper lubrication and maintenance techniques for rifles and ARs using penetrating oils and anti-seize compounds, emphasized the importance of 6.5 Carcano rifles as reliable weapons, and reviewed current ammunition and firearm availability including 300 Blackout, .380 Auto, 40 Smith & Wesson, and .357 SIG. He provided detailed guidance on magazine capacity standards, holster systems, and tactical gear from various surplus suppliers, while also addressing ammunition scarcity issues and reloading as a critical skill for preparedness.
- weapons maintenance
- 6.5 carcano
- 300 blackout
- ar-15
- magazine capacity
- ammunition scarcity
- preparedness
- reloading
- 380 auto
- 40 smith wesson
- 357 sig
- holsters
- tactical gear
- surplus firearms
- michigan
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That's the calling right from the night of the... ...through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat and speaking low to me, he said. We fought a revolution to cure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free. and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrant flavored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number and you've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors, so their children will be married. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores, and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for what you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God, keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as Tyrant trampled each God-given right, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free? Uh oh. Hey, there we go. There we go. We got your back, Dad. Okay, I was just about to open up for you. Well, interestingly enough, ooh, I got some background noise there. It's probably me. I just opened my mic up and hot out there. There we go. That's probably better. As it is, we just had power go down everywhere here and we have no significant storm in front of it. We have had a storm. We had a wind come through. What two hours ago? Well, you know that is interesting dad today was supposed to be the day of that FCC emergency communications test Everybody I've talked to online has been like what test there's they didn't see anything as 2 p.m. Rolled around and it wasn't utter failure You there have been a couple of news stories who did pieces on this at 7 a.m. The opt-in to emergency brought emergency broadcast signal this morning you were supposed to text a specific number, go through all this, hupla, to get the emergency broadcast service to come across your TV, your phone, etc, etc. Okay, then it's not emergency broadcast system. It's never the way it's worked in the past. Who's going to go through the steps to do that? Who's going to know how to go through the steps to do that? Well, who's going to bother? I mean, for the most part, or doesn't want it because we already know how intrusive government is. So basically you're getting into a contract where they want you to hook up so that you're locked on. And it's like, no, I don't think so. Yeah, well that's the whole thing everybody say that it was a failed test or was it or did the test go off the way that they wanted it to you know Systems like this are not necessarily meant for you and me Well interestingly enough we had power go out twice We had a storm come through this afternoon a couple hours ago it hit and we had a power fluctuation But most everything even though it blacked out for a second didn't kick off which is interesting But a moment ago, just as we started the program, the power went off here and the phones went off. And that address thing. And the phones don't, well, they probably are. You're on, I know it so as this, you're on. That's an old copper wire system. That's supposed to have power even when everything else goes out. It's on a separate power system unless a monkey screwed with that. Which knowing what they were doing in Michigan when I left with the phone system would not surprise me one bit. Well that's what I'm curious about because it came back up but it went down together. All of it went down at the same time in the same instant. because i was on the system i was hooked up to the line and everything went down so that's rather fascinating in and of itself the other thing here again remember guys this is why having alternate power on standby all the time is a good idea this time of year is not really a big deal it's nice to have some fans or you know a guy we don't live with ac but uh... other than that still daylight We can pretty well keep an eye on things. We got rain, which we really needed. It's good. We got a perfect amount of rain. Actually, we got a big... We actually have a downfall, I will say that. We got a major wash of rain for, oh, a good hour, hour and a half. So that was about time... It was about time we needed it. We are into fall... Or not fall, forgive me. Harvest, late harvest. But we still have some green time. It's August. With that being the case, where normally we'd be drawing a popcorn fart and don't light a match outside, you know what I mean? Whoa! Instead, in the bottom of the state of Michigan, we are lush. This has been a classic Michigan land of the mosquito, lush summer. And right now, you really can't tell the difference except for the height of the corn and the crops that are coming in right now that are being harvested, that it isn't June or July, which is rather fascinating. We'll probably get enough dry, which we do need at the end of the season, to harvest all the rest of the stuff. But we'll see what happens. So let's do this. We're going to start the intro for everybody out there. We had a little hiccup, power outage across the board, including the phone net, which, by the way, the phone is supposed to be on a separate system, a power system, because it is a totally separate grid. And it still went hiccup with everything else. But it came on where power in general is still off, although right now everybody's pretty well, you know. paying attention to the perimeter and gunned up because, well, we'll assume the worst and we won't be disappointed. Anyway, good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, this is the first hour of the afternoon intelligence report on our kirky. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories, southwest, east, northeast, and south. Ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on libertytreeradio.4mg.com, Liberty Tree Radio on satellite, and we're on AM&FM microstations, CB base stations, and UltraNet Hallmark and Golden Spike Technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. Good afternoon. To all of our friends out there, lower 49, including the great state of Jefferson along with CONUS, the Outline Two States Territories, and the clock. It is, well, let's see, good question. Everything is off within my eye shot here in the, I'll assume it's about 12, 14 minutes after I could be wrong. Slap me the microphone if I am, but I know we're somewhere within the earliest part of the four o'clock block. Well, five o'clock block. Well, wait a minute, three o'clock. It depends where you are in the country, right? Anyway, it is the 11th of August. It is the 13th year of open Fabian, the socialist and Soviet socialist occupation of America with a K 2021 older calendar, 2021 battle for the Republic dance of swords. And as I said earlier, it's wet. Now, this is something I've talked about many times, but I'm going to touch on this before we're going farther and it's weapons Wednesday. But this ties into weapons and it has to with machinery. I cannot emphasize enough doing general breakdown on weapons that you own from top to bottom with the right tools so you don't screw up the parts. And what I mean by that is get a good commercial set of screwdrivers with any variation to include spanner heads so that you can do maintenance on those Mausers, Enfields, Carcanos you're picking up. I don't care what it is. And invest in penetrating oils, especially better quality. Gibbs is really great. I highly recommend Gibbs, Gibbs, Gibbs. But there's a whole bunch of other ones out there, and whatever floats your boat is fine by me. But start buying those products in force. Even just No Name Brand bulk stuff is good. Right now, let's see, Maynard's has some China Sport can sprays that came in for under $3 apiece. They have an 11% discount by the time you're done, you know, 11% off. Of course, they give you money to spend in their store, but who cares when you get something else for free. And what it comes down to is you end up with a whole bunch of extra penetrating oils and lubricants, which you need to, A, take things apart safely. Don't just start wailing on stuff and trying to grind it apart. Be patient. These are fine machines. We want them to be around another 100, 200 years to do that. If you do maintenance right, they will be. The big thing is that we have a big advantage over people in the past. You know, Black Powder era was horrible for what it did oxidation wise to metals. The metal-ergy wasn't as impressive as it is today. And for that reason, that combination, a lot of the guns fell into basically monument grade. But that doesn't need to happen now. We have all of the petroleum lubricant products that we need, petroleum oil and lubricant, POL products. that we need to maintain every weapon system we have but there's another thing you need to do and I'm running into this right now with something I don't know I didn't think about it but now that I'm experiencing it I'm tearing everything apart like it as we get them. Metal on metal contact with parts that are going to be used for a long time and finally like with a tractor tire you got a tire on an axle. It's monument great. The suckers notoriously oxidize together. It's a horrible combination. The shafts themselves are, I would say, to be quite honest, nowadays, if you get a brand new tractor, this China Sport Junk Steel to begin with, it's not going to be made in the US, pull all of the axles off and grease the hell out of everything, or again, anti-seize contact materials is also a really good investment. This is especially if you buy something new. I've been kind of doing this with the fleet of vehicles that I've picked up that have come from Texas. In that as I take something apart, or if I get a chance when I got a few minutes, I unscrew something and I grease that nut and that bolt and put them back together, or if it's got a female surface welded to the truck wherever it is, guess what? It gets grease on both sides. up wherever I can reach it and it gets reattached but all of it is lubricated so that down the road if I'm the one has to fix it I'm not going to hear a snap because that does happen however stuff from West Texas and southern Oklahoma and places like that it's where it's drying a popcorn fart most of the time the nice thing about that is that the stuff doesn't rust So if you catch it, even though it's been decades, a couple of decades since the vehicle might have been made, it will come apart. And if it does, do good by it. Now the same is true with your weapons. Take your ARs apart top to bottom and lubricate the components with the finest quality lubricants, not just penetrating oils. First, using the penetrating oils like on the older weapons so you can get in between all those surfaces. Break free of the oxidation. carefully disassemble the gun completely, clean all bearing surfaces, and especially watch for oxidation slash rust, and then when you do put them back together, there are a bunch of little tricks nobody talks about, but especially if I was looking at long-term with a lot of these guns, I've mentioned and I'm going to bring it up again. You know, fingernail polish is cheap, but if you have a below-surface metal-metal contact component on an older gun, it's not going to mess up the finish. If you've already got some oxidation under the barrel in some of the components underneath the stock on the wooden stock weapons, clean everything up as best you can. Take it down, there's all kinds of tricks, you can go on YouTube, there's a dozen different ways that you can apply what other people have come up with in the way of solutions, hundreds actually. And what you want to do is when you put, before you put it back together, if it's got rust, yeah, you could, you can paint it, I guess, if you want to, but be very careful there. You don't want to add too much in the way of material. But you know, fingernail polish is a polymer. is a great way to cover areas that are oxidizing. Remember, if you want to reduce oxidation, you block air from making contact. Oxygen, or H2O, water, right? Oxygen is in the air. That's also what helps to create oxidation, okay, because it's going to deteriorate, break down, everything's trying to go back to the soil. And so what you do is you put an air barrier between, you know, the world and the area that's oxidizing. If it's going to be out of sight, out of mind, this is not going to be a big deal. It will not diminish the value of the firearm. It can always be taken off down the road. There is such a thing as fingernail polish. But in the meantime, what this does is create a nice, elastic surface and you can still oil over it. Fingernail polish is very difficult to take off. If you aren't familiar, ask any girl, she'll tell you. So the neat thing about it, that the type of polymers that are used, because they have to be flexible and resilient, they also handle heat, 98.6 plus. And pretty well, other than chipping and snapping and breaking, which happens, which is why girls touch up. Gee, that's what you're doing in this case. This will seal up certain parts and keep them from breaking down any farther. And you can use a very, very, very, very, very light coat. Enough just to seal it. No, I'd still grease it. Oh, that's weird. Why am I going to do that? Well, because I still want those P.O.L. petroleum oil lubricant products that will stay. That's why grease over oil. If at all possible, very, like, get your thumb, get some on your thumb. I know it's horrible. Oh my God, I'm getting grease on my thumb. The contaminants, we're going to die. Yeah, we're going to die of something. Anyway, I'm going to take my index finger, whatever, and I'm going to cover everything I can that's that part with a grease, a lubricant. Then I'm going to put it back together. Oh, I'm going to also very carefully take a little paintbrush and paint the threads with grease. Not just use my finger and try to get them in there because that doesn't work. You have different bearing points on micro-fine threads. You want to preserve that piece of equipment, you better treat it like a fine piece of machinery. And then once I paint the threads and I put it all back together, and by the way if I can, I'm going to get down inside the female channel of that nut bolt or that machine surface that has the threaded stock. I'm going to get inside there too and do the same thing. Clean it out first and then lubricate it. I don't want any adhesion. to take place down the road and especially since I may not have time when things get really difficult to really do what I need to do to maintain some of this stuff. So you want to do it now while you're in leisure time. The other advantage down the road when we do have a problem, if you have a difficulty with a weapon, this allows you to put it back online faster because you've done all the PM, Preventive Maintenance, for preparatory ready for it to be used. A lot of you guys are getting these 6.5 Carcano's. I've seen some pictures. They're nice rifles. I was a 6.5. You can ask Edward this. He can tell you. When everybody else was defecating on the 6.5 Carcano. Oh, that's a Carcano! Guys, I was buying them by the buckets. Why? Because they were cheap. And you know what? Now they're telling you, oh, help, help. Forgotten weapons, he actually says, well, the Model 1890, 39, you know, Carcano in 6.5 or 7.35, was one of the best rifles of World War II for its design, because of its design. Now, this is totally contrary, totally flips with the idea that, you know, piss on the Italians, piss on the Carcano. In reality, the Carcano was a very simple firearm to build and was built to reasonable specifications. They didn't have significant failures with the Carcano. Okay? It's just not a Dirty Harry Magnum gun. It's a 6.5mm medium-grade, Mauser-type cartridge that was used. It works. It'll kill you dead in a doornail. I sure as hell don't want to get shot by it. Okay? But now everybody's discovered it, so... Since I know a lot about the weapons, there's very few working parts on a Carcano. There are very few parts on a Carcano. It's actually very efficient for production. Why do you think the Italians kept building it? Contrary to the oil, they just didn't have any other choice. Well, really they didn't want to consider that they could minimize cost on a main battle rifle. and in the process crank out as many as they could I would point out that while Italy was using the 6.5 Carcano do you have any idea how many other countries on the Axis side actually were maintaining them? Germany had a lot of 6.5 Carcanos that they had brought back into or tried to resuscitate back into service where they were brought back from the battlefield and in fact they had whole reprocessing points where the 6.5 Carconnels were being rebuilt, refabricated for reissue. And a lot of them did show up in the Volksurm and Home Guard units, especially as the war proceeded. But they were also out there in the hands of a lot of different units where they would be working with the Italians. They would try to cohabitate weapon systems. And so the 6.5 Carcano and the 8mm Breda and all the others were out there and forced Italian-made weapons, but still in the hands of a lot of other quote-unquote allies of the Axis, which is the way it works. Especially if they're not alive. Hey, go ahead, call or jump in there. What do we have? Yeah, hey, I want to know if this is a good deal. MajorSurplus.com, MajorSurplus.com, and MajorSurplus.com. They have short spade shovel with wooden handle and tapered nose. Three-pack for $24.95. $25 for three-pack. I saw that and I was trying to decide on that. It's not a bad price. It's probably a Chinese, but it might be Vietnamese made, copy of one of the German pattern, which the Russians also used, and very similar if not. Quite quite close to the Swiss fixed handle shovels It's a good little it's a good little spade if it's built anywhere near any kind of decent specification It would be a good utility Combat shovel to carry and it's one other item mark I found this over at RTG parts and it's Robert Robert rtg.com, robertrtg.com, and again robertrtg.com, finish 60 millimeter gas filter, and a new old stock unissued price, five dollars forty nine cents each. Right now that's about, I don't know, I haven't looked, but you check Gun Parts Corp. The best price in the country traditionally has been over at GunPartsCorp.com. But go check to see what their price is right now. When you go over to Gun Parts Corp, go over to where it says surplus up above where it has other items and surpluses in there. When you go to the surplus items, they have one on chemical, you know, NBC defense. It's gas mask and chem suits and such. In there, they had them by the case and they also had them individually listed. Look to see what they're running over there right now, but that's not a bad price for those. That's not a bad price, especially since you can only, if you only need a few, then that would be a way to go. But go look at gunpartscorp.com for me and then cross-reference and check to see what the difference is. I'll do that. That's all I got for a moment. Yeah, if it's the same or if they're out and by the way, they can run out. Eventually Surplus runs out. robertrtg.com robertrtg.com robertrtg.com and 60 millimeter finish filters, I would assume they're probably thin. They may not be. They could be Swedish. NATO had a bunch of them. But do they have anything else like that there? Any other NBC items? Gas masks? Anything else? Okay, probably signed up. Mark, that's the only thing. I got that on an email. I didn't dig too much deeper. Right now I'm going to that one site you suggested, Gun Parts Corp. I'm going to see what's up there. I'll get back with you. Very good. It's right up on the top in the heading is where they have all the different subjects. When you touch it, there's a series of sub-categories. Anyway, again, that's robertrtg.com, 60mm filters, 5.49 apiece. And the shovels are over a major surplus. They also have their traditional, and they've carried these forever. You get five machetes for a fixed price, which really isn't bad. The price is good. They're steel working blades. These are steel traditional cane blades. But you know what? I've always argued there, it's a nice rack of Ork blades to have laying around. You know, like you put five of them in a hangar somewhere where they're out of sight, but you can just reach in, grab them, and you got a battle axe broadsword slash, you know, hacking and chopping a weapon. And they really do work. They're just nothing fancy. But they are carb steel, and they're listed in the same area when they do the shovels. They listed these also, I noticed, as they always have. That's been major surpluses. I don't know how many of these they got. I don't know how many bins they have of them, but they've had them forever. They always carry them, and they do sell quite a few because I talk to the guys that say, oh yeah, we've been selling these forever, but we've got a contact, they've got a source, probably the Philippines, I assume. They're on the Pacific side, and the Filipinos use these, and they also make tons of them. It's a little side market, you know, built from any number of different steels that are out there, depending on what it is they can scavenge, and either they forge themselves or They use existing parts and hammer them out accordingly. That's why you see different shapes of blade also. But the different shapes of blade are also for different techniques in harvesting, depending on what you're doing, both with cane work and other types of stock plants. So just heads up there, they are good tools and they're good weapons. And I don't think they don't come with sheets. They're just battle, you know, like I said, battle axe and broadsword type weapons. Anyway, it is Weapons Wednesday, by the way, so yeah, we're going to stick with weapons. One of the other things here that somebody was asking again about alternate 556, alternate 2-556 ammunition. Guys, 300 Blackout is coming back in good quantity, which should tell you something I said months ago, years ago here about this. The 300 Blackout is popular enough. The only problem is it's young. And this is why if you do have a 300 Blackout gun, you should have been taught a lesson and you probably already fixed it. You buy a 5.56 upper and always have it on hand. It's not that the 300 Blackout is a bad round. It's an excellent round. It's a very well engineered round. It does what it's supposed to do. But it's an orphan very quickly when everybody goes to buy it, which is what just happened only a short time ago. Okay, so I'm just going to remind you, if you're going to do the 300 Blackout, if you can do any of the alternate rounds, if you want more ammo to be there, buy them out. All of you 300 Blackout operators, anybody, owners, anybody who's got a 300 Blackout, buy every round you can. When they see that the market is pressed, and it's an easy round for them to build. They like that. And 300 Blackouts, it's a bum-easy cartridge. Okay, for them, I guarantee it's got less stress and wear on their machinery. Available off-the-shelf components are easy to grab and they don't have to do anything special. So it's a gimme for them, which is another reason that they probably like the round. The others, like 6.5 Creedmoor, which is a very popular round, is still a more unique round with regard to manufacturing components. It requires more steps, or I should say a greater number of steps to finish the round, and the consistency has to be there. So just a heads up that that's one of the problems. And while you're seeing certain more exotic but very popular new cartridges not catching up right away, However, there have been some 6.5 Creedmoor out there, so that tells you that it's got a good following and they realize they better cater to the customer. Now, another thing, and again, by the way, I'm not going to mention it, I'm going to wait. There's a bunch of really interesting odds and ends items popping up in the market here. including a bunch of training weapons and I assume that that's how they're able to slide them, you know, sideways out of the system because they've left them training weapons. The laser ARs I mentioned the other day are popped up in a couple of locations but I think Center Fire System has two examples. One is Bushmaster, I, for the life of me, forgive me, I can't rattle off the other, both are AR-15. They're M4 knockoffs with a laser barrel system. The hammers have been taken out of the guns. The buffer and the spring have been taken out of the guns. So you'll need a buffer spring, a buffer, and a hammer. And then you need a barrel, standard whatever you want to put on it, barrel for the AR upper that's there. And as it points out in the information, you remove the laser barrel. And it looks just like an M4 barrel, by the way, except for the configuration at the end, which makes it very apparent, and it does have a laser warning identifying label on the side. The gun can be turned around pretty quick, so if you're really excited about Bushmaster M4 knockoffs, then you'll like this, or if you feel that that's something you want to deal with because you're familiar, basically, with the design overall, which a lot of you are now. The big thing here is finding a barrel that floats your boat and fits the needs and also ensures you don't have to pick up any additional parts because you don't want to make and do any more than you have to and you don't want to purchase any more than you have to to make the purchase viable. They want $400 for each of these laser blasters, I mean slash laser training weapons. There are some other end fields that came in again, which they did not cut the receivers. They did not damage the bolts, but they did come with a training barrel. So these are still an FFL item. A couple of companies have had them in the last few days, but I have noticed I got notices on them in the mail, email as was just mentioned earlier. And what happened is people scarfed them up. In fact, Centerfire had a number of different barreled actions, Arasaka's, 7mm Spanish, etc. And they were cheap, 40 some dollars a piece, 30 some dollars, 40 dollars for a set. And they had a quantity of them, they went immediately. And the reason is, if a lot of these guys are now taking all these parts that they have under the shop bench, where they sporterized this, or they modified that, or somebody busted a gun up, and what they're doing is they're building new rifles, or building rifles up with all these parts because the cost, the value in the past was low, but now everything's gone stupid price. It doesn't mean you're worth as long as it shoots and it's reliable. uh... it pretty well sells especially if it doesn't have any paperwork so picking up a bunch of these and then you know rebuilding them and moving them out the door isn't a big deal there are a ton of and feel part and by the way there's a whole ton of infill purchase came in but there's all kinds of barrel actions with you know varying degrees of parts on board that have been popping up from one one company or another now these may have worked for go ahead called jim in there Yeah, Mark, to confirm what you said about the MVC gas mass filters finished at GunPartsCorp.com, GunPartsCorp.com, GunPartsCorp.com, 163.75 for a box of 45. So yeah, that's a pretty good deal. And one other question after you address the stuff on the end fields and that. How does somebody take an AR-15 regular 223 lower? And I know you can pin the 7.62 upper on it. What else needs to be done as far as a magazine? I gotta clear this line. I'll just listen on the radio, okay? Thanks a lot. God bless everybody. Let it go. all now if we're talking to three hundred black out some six two blackout thirty cal three hundred black out of seven six two guys uh... with regard to that configuration it's just drop the uh... the eighties standard five five six uh... lower works all the way around with any of these newer conformist rounds. They have to be just simply the length of the standard Air 15 magazine. So there's no change in the magazine well, there's no change even in the magazine as needed. You can get away with even though some require a little different shape, but you know for angle of approach for the magazine, extended magazines, use me. Oh my goodness. Anyway, the big thing is with the upper just pick whatever 300 blackout you want to go to and it'll pop right on. That's the cool thing about the gun. If you have a 5.56 you buy a 300 blackout upper. I don't think you have to go with a tougher hammer spring but if you do somebody can let me know. There are different grades of energy applied with regard to pounds applied foot pounds. And I don't believe that there would be any need for changing that because the primer should be just as sensitive. The round is the same length. Point of impact and strike should be the same with everything. So far as I know, it would work just fine. The big thing is with 300 Blackout, the ammunition. Everything stays the same. Bolt carrier should be the same. If not, if it's a 300-bolt carrier, forgive me, I'd have to double-check the base on that one again. A wise person would not have changed anything too radical, but if that were the case with any of the ARs, one of the other considerations we have a bolt carrier is remember it's a bolt carrier with a bolt. The bolt is a smaller component, easily changed out as needed, so you could even just buy spare bolts retain the same bolt carrier and carry spare bolts in different, you know, specs depending upon which of the exotic cartridges you want to have as a backup or whether it's going to be your primary and you always want 5.56 as your backup. A lot of people really like the 300 blackout round and I understand why. I've seen a performance of it, some of the guys that have been shooting it are getting good flat effective range out of it just like they would the 7.62x39 which is really what the 300 blackout was supposed to make. Now, the 300 Blackout is supposed to be and is generally flatter at greater range and does a lot of what the 762x39 can't do as well if you're reaching greater ranges. Within the, we can only shoot 200 yard philosophy though. Some 62 by 39, 545 by 39, 223, 300 blackout all fit into the same niche. And at that 200 yard mark, they're all pretty much performing the same way. I know I'm speaking a blasphemy when I do that. No, mine's different from yours. Basically when you're looking at the omnipresent philosophy that has been shoved on everybody's throat about the 200 yard engagement range. Pretty much all of them are working within the what would be considered acceptable parameters and there's only minor variance in terms of better performance. The 762x39 and 30 cal really would be on the top. And then the 545x39, 223, sit below that. Because we want both more thud and we want penetration. And that's something where the 30 caliber projectiles do a better job. whatever the math is on that i know what the math is but i'm just saying whatever the math is don't worry about it just the way things work uh... another thing real quick is if you're using in the end and by the way it left but i forget there's a bunch of other calibers that were developed here some of her straight case that fit into a standard five five six uh... magazine and work just fine but i have a mention because they are even more exotic than the three hundred when are forgive me three hundred uh... bob blackout and the and the reason is because they're even younger than the three hundred black out through the black up around for a few years now so there was a good following and there was a good deep inventory uh... because of interest With the others, they were very new before or just as the coronavirus scam and the communists, since the communists made their move. And so a lot of people have been asking me about those particular loads or particular chamberings, hey, do you know where I can get some? It's like, no, I don't. I mean, I've always watched for them, but you have noticed that hell, even in the manufacturers end, most of these newer exotics are pretty, we're and have been pretty cheap at the height of shortages as far as barrels and upper receivers for ARs and etc. because there's no ammunition and there's no relief on the horizon. The only way you're going to do it is to build your own, which by the way everybody should be practicing doing anyway as a policy. Get into that as quickly as you can. The more people we have reloading, the better off both strategically and tactically we are. So all of you are improving our condition when you assist by reloading and developing your skills in that area. That's just how it works, that's part of the big math. Another thing, oh I know, I knew this was going to happen by the way. It's not that again, the pool is not deep, it's just broad. uh... certain amount of three eighty has come back out onto the market not very much but enough to make everybody go all the water like it's it's like a bug guy in the middle of the desert in the all the sudden tools call brain because of this is the the flurry of articles because and i and i know who's doing it if the people who are stuck with the guns who have a whole pile of three eighty autos even now all when everything else was sold out because everybody knew you couldn't get three eighty auto amo Now, I love the little cheetah. I told you before I sold tons of those guns. The Browning equivalent and the Beretta staggered magazine 380 Auto, but they also made them in 32 and apparently those are even rarer I guess now. They probably would have been the greater collector item. Ah, collectors item. But the little 380 Auto Beretta, which is a baby model, basically like a baby model 92. It is a sweet little gun to shoot. It is a nice little compact pistol. Back in the day it was the first of its kind of staggered magazine. Browning and Beretta made parallel guns. And when I was a Browning, I was a Browning distributor and a Beretta. Well, nobody wanted to be a Beretta distributor because it was too damn expensive. But I was back in, you know, this is way back decades ago. And when the cheetahs came into the market, I had browning, the browning and the burretta sitting side by side. Guys, only the cosmetic outer components were different. Even the magazines were identical. So when the argument is, well, the browning was better than the burretta. No, the burretta was better than the browning. First of all, very few people probably have the browning equivalent, but they were made and they actually were put out there at exactly the same time. I believe they were made in the same factory. If you have either one, they're both good guns. But the Browning component disappeared. It was not... It didn't look that much different from the Beretta. But they obviously were trying to desperately sculpt it on the outside to give it a little more of like a baby Browning high power look, but they just couldn't because of the nature of the engineering. And so I always suspected Beretta made both guns. I don't think Browning did, I think Beretta did. And all Browning did is said, okay, we'll buy you a gun, just sculpt it down here, do a little thingy there, put this over here, and then when you're done, we'll call it a Browning. And then the Italian said, it's a Dom. We do it. And they did. So the little cheetahs, good guns, but as somebody asked me in a little email late, late, late, or last night, or earlier, earlier this morning, If you commit to 380 Auto, I'm going to tell you what I told everybody else, you better buy buckets of ammunition when it becomes available, but not for 80 cents a round. If it's still the prices where they are with 380 Auto, you've got a lot of other pistols you can buy for the same price or less than that little cheetah. And magazines are readily available, and ammunition and 9mm fine, or whatever, take your pick, 40 caliber. So, there's a lot of other pistols that are a little bigger, not much. Basically undercover type or, you know, stash guns that work just fine in place of it. But if you got a deal on it and you had, if you inherited something like that, no, don't get rid of it. You mean, grab a ball, like four cases of ammo, well then you don't sell it and you don't sell the ammo, okay? Because you've got something that otherwise is kind of almost at given time, three times now it's become unobtainium. Now that's sad, but else it tells you there's a lot of .380s out there and there are because a lot of the 9mm macro pistols when they were marketing them at the end of the Cold War into the first 10 years, remember when they didn't, they felt that they needed to crunch the market, they re-barreled a bunch of those guns in .380 Auto. So there's many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many They both became pretty much in the same situation as catch-as-catch can. The macro still stayed a little lower. The 380 kept creeping up in price and still is. Still has stayed up there high. So the Cheetah, beautiful pistol. Love it. I'd like to have a hundred of them. Except if I did, I'd have to have a lot of ammunition for them and I don't think I would do that. So I would recommend you go to something else for the moment unless you've got an inheritance or a freebie or a really cheap deal on it if you got a deal if you got a phenomenal deal buy the gun and then scrounge up a box of ammo at a time. Okay, what I mean by a good deal if somebody's Want to just get rid of it. I can't find any ammo and you know, I'll give it to you for half what I paid for it Okay. Yeah, grab it then Maybe okay, it's up to you. How much money you got? But it's one of those things where it is a beautiful pistol. By the way, if you're looking for it in a movie, watch The Matrix. Remember the black hair, you know, you know, counter, you know, the other hero, the heroine, not the drug, the girl, the heroine of the movie. When she jumps through the window and she does the summary, you know, she does the barrel roll and she pulls the two pistols out, she's carrying two cheetahs. Those aren't Beretta 92s. Go take a close look, look how small they are. Those are 380 auto staggered magazine Cheetahs, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, uh... next and let's see you know we got a beginning i don't know what the clock is saying right now but i'll come on hearing the music when the time comes to settle brain up in my ear for everybody out there and another thing that we need to be looking at is again uh... carry technology that's going to be reliable for bad and you know for bad environments i'd i'd well this is where the the invoke thing now or the hard shell understand uh... it would have a good special forces guys and everybody else's special is carrying a lot of the form fitted with our pollsters but they're also for very specific weapons most cases and while there are variations on the theme uh... they make more noise than you'd suspect and if you're going to be a little more stealthy the rattle crack clock clock rattle crack rattle crack crack rattle crack uh... that adds up when you got a bunch of people handy looking at other types of quieter systems that also offer full protection for the weapon for long-term travels and uh... for concealing uh... not good soon as an undercover carry but for you know concealing as in subduing noise discipline is half the battle with i guess everybody's thrown out the window i don't know what's going on there but and not my problem those are the people over there on the other side uh... with that being the case There's a whole bunch of especially service cop leather and, sure, not so much leather, but nylon that's out there that's very well built by any number of different companies. And you need to look around to see who has what in stock right now. And when I say used, a lot of cop shops, when they sold all those Smith & Wesson 40 caliber pistols, They have all of the support technology that goes with it, magazine carriers, holsters, etc., etc., etc. The UM-84 holsters, there's a bunch of different knockoffs that were in NATO. And in fact, the Italian version, there's two Italian versions that are right now over at Sportsman's Guide, which came from Sturm. uh... that are a good example of you'd recognize the design you go all that you have a four i carried one of those when i was back in you know back in the eighties uh... in you know in the army or marine corps uh... well yep you might have but it's not the one you have not only think it is but it works exactly the same way and the itallians were standardized on the bread a model ninety two So it's pretty good size frame wise, but there are some smaller versions. Beware, you better do a little asking or reading before you just grab something. They did make some short slide versions and they have those in stock and they're actually under $20 a piece. Now what's good about the UM-84 type holsters, as long as they stuck to the pattern, and some they may have, some they may not have, is that as needed you can actually make the holster a that a topless bra bucket in that you can actually take off the uh... upper cross flap and leave the uh... weapon in the exposed open position ready to draw you can completely detach the uh... the flap cover from the rear and of course word unplanned clips from the front So that's not a bad holster. When they were 100 some dollars a piece, it was pricey. But now that it's not in vogue, it's not the latest, it's not the greatest, it's not the most important. It didn't have 15 articles written about it last week and 16 different piece videos on YouTube. So, no, but it was okay two years ago, wasn't it? Oh yeah, it was okay, but it's not good enough now. Oh, okay, it worked ten years ago. It worked ten years ago. People carried them all over the place. Well, yes, they did, but now it's not good enough. Well, why is it not good enough? Well, because there's the new whizbang widget. Okay, but this was the old whizbang widget a while back, wasn't it? Well, yeah. Okay, so here's the thing. You probably can't afford to buy the latest whizbang widget. But these will work and what you do need to do is pay attention because the Italians have overlapping technology like we do. So one of the holsters that I picked up in the model has an M1910 pistol belt type hanger. That's the wire type hanger like on the old 1911 system. The others have a standard belt keeper like the Alice system. And there are one or two other models out there that Sportsman's Guide doesn't carry that apparently were available to, I don't know if they were police or whatever they were, but they have different fasteners and slip-backs. So you want to check that out, see what makes sense with the equipment that you have. They'll readily adapt to most of the guns that you have out there. Now remember, we don't want to squeeze something in and not be able to lock down that holster flap. That's designed to keep, to a degree, give you some water protection, but also dirt and crud deflection. And again, armors the gun while you're in transit. They thought this through when they came up with the, I believe it was, forgive me, but I'm pretty sure it was Bianchi that came up with the UM-84. And when they did, remember they had all these neat ideas which everybody embraced and thought was the next best thing to slice white bread. And so it was the Cats Meow. That included the features of being able to take the top cover off, leave the thing a bucket holster, which by the way is if you'll notice the basic ideas where everybody is with these solid plastic rattle holsters now. Okay, so the UM-84 can do the same thing. And there of course, yes, if you might recall they even made it so you could use it like a shoulder holster. Remember that? God, that was bulky. The holster is well padded and so in the shoulder holster like the pancake or you put it in a pancake station like Rover by the armpit, when they did that, yeah it works because it gave you that World War II feel like you're a tanker or you know aviation. But it doesn't fit the same way. It's a bulky holster in that respect because it's designed to protect the gun. Okay, so just consider yeah, and yeah, they still have the adapters to make it You know a pancake you know use it like a pancake holster for under the left armpit or wherever you want to put it in front of that really often not under but to the front remember That's how the old pancake holsters work Another thing is mag pouches just a reminder over at Sportsman's guide.com Sportsman's guide.com they have those Italian or wait. Those were French French double mag pouches they are 10 which means you get 20 pockets 10 of the double pocket large magazine capacity mag pouches are brand new unissued for like $15 and 40 some cents so it comes a little under 16 They're worth it. They're brand new They can be slipped down to another number of different belts one of the things I would remind you is again if you're looking for something to carry that carry more magazines with a casual work utility belt. That price is the best you could possibly imagine. These virtually are brand new magazine pouches, but they are stark white. Not that it really cares, it doesn't bother me for most situations. It was going to be underneath a jacket or on a belt, underneath a jacket, who cares? But it's white, well, who cares? However, what's really funny is you can go stormtrooper. Might as well just put them make the rest of your kit white and maybe just your you know battle armor and maybe a helmet Yeah, right. I don't think so But it is it also would work as I mentioned before for a cold weather winter battle, you know battlefield configuration gear Now on that note And this is another trick I've done for years. In fact, I got some of these hung I got one of these Hungarian belts last year that will hold individual each pocket will hold a standard glock or browning high power or a paretta magazine they were made in hungary they have i think it's fixer seven pockets on each side but they were actually designed to be suspenders on web gear and what's kinda neat if you really want to do a poor man's version of their color could German airborne uh... configuration for you know your mag pouches If you're using the TA-56 or the TA-90s flash, the ALICE type gear, you know, you can mount those magazine pouches horizontally on your suspenders and carry not one, but two or three of them, you know, two, probably depending on your height, lined up and lock those in place so that you've got horizontal mag pouches taking up that front area instead of just dead space, so to speak. One thing to remember, there's more junk in front of you means that maybe it'll slow down or help to slow down a bullet beyond the body armor, whatever else you're using. Hey, maybe there was just enough energy taken out where it hit the magazine with the ammunition in it, as long as it doesn't cap off anything, that it stopped it from getting all the way through. Still flooded on you, hurt like a bugger because the body armor did its job, but hey. That little extra junk or material in front of you, you never know it's going to be enough to just finally stop a bullet. That starts it, and the rest of your armor does the job it's supposed to. Everything in front of a bullet or projectile coming in is designed to, you know, again, reduce energy. That's why armor and APCs are built the way they are. just you know again junk to the front not as heavily built so they put as much junk to the front you gotta fight your way or shoot your way through the junk to the front to get to the troops in the back see how that works same is true of the way body armor works more stuff in front of you it's not a big tree sir but anything is better than no tree yeah anyway we are we're headed towards the top here I can imagine For everybody out there, another reminder too, I've mentioned Sportsman's Guide many times. Always check their field section out. But right now they do have a bunch of calendar plus to choose from that will fit with most of your medium frame automatics. So if you might want to peruse that, go through and see what it is that's affordable, that kind of helps you to be able to save money there. You can buy more of that expensive ammo in the other category. God bless our Republic. Yes to the new world order. We shall prevail ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. We're in a march. Weapons Wednesday. We're gonna go to break, grab a cup of coffee, go to the bathroom. Whatever you're gonna do. We'll be back in just a minute. Second hour of the intel report. Coming up. Constitution. You know, the right to bear arms is because that's the last form of defense against tyranny. Not to hunt. to protect yourself from the police. Anybody that wants to disarm me can drop dead. Anybody that wants to make me unarmed and helpless. People that want to literally create the proven plinths are killed called gun-free zones. We're going to beat you. We'll vote you out of office or suck on my machine gun. I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On the land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate. And your Christian values can't be taught. According to the state, you read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number and you trade it in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right. We pray to God, keep the torture freedom bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave is this deal the land of the afternoon ladies and gentlemen? This is the second hour of the afternoon Intelligence report. I'm our cranky One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories southwest north northeast east Ladies and gentlemen you were listening to us on Liberty Tree radio dot 4 mg dot com Liberty Tree radio on satellite and we're on a of an FM micro stations CB base stations and UltraNet Homework and Golden Spike Technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with the West. Good afternoon to all of our friends out there in Lower 49 including the great state of Jefferson along with the Colosseal line, two state territories and the clock it is approximately 605,606 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. It is Well, it's Weapons Wednesday. It is the 11th of August. It is the 13th year of open Fabian Socialist and Soviet Socialist Occupation of America with a K 2021 Old Earth Calendar. 2021 Battle for the Republic, the Dance of Swords. Let the battle begin, and you're part of it. As it is needless to say they're still running with the chipman scam the fact that they haven't dumped him and cast him aside and thrown another one up there Means that they are desperate to get a very hardcore rabid crazy town anti-gun idiot stick, you know in place not that they don't have plenty of those to choose from but a baby murdering church burning, you know turd that works for the occultist that's you know already you know but willing to murder americans will be right up there pushing the buttons and tell the other bat faggots to murder more americans when the time comes and won't be twice about it which is what they want which is why they keep pushing the turd so we all understand that part okay uh... another thing you also say as we know ongoing court battle seesawing back and forth the usual scam we've seen over and over again all well we made a victory all we have a but we lost all but we made a victory over we lost all we keep losing always again Don't worry Hillary's gonna be arrested any minute now and Donald Trump will just drop from the sky and save the day You don't even do anything? Just sit on your butt, do nothing and the you know something will happen Don't worry about it, which is true. Something will happen, but not quite the way everybody's wishing Okay on that note Guns and gadgets you get a chance go over to guns and gadgets check out the latest videos there Tony We won't worry about it right now. We may play one thing at 8 o'clock. We'll see But go over to guns and get an gadgets the end the symbol like the General Mills symbol G only this case the end symbol Guns and gadgets over on YouTube. They're all sees also on all the other venues. You don't have to go to YouTube to watch his program Material it's also available in other sources go check One of the other things, needless to say, is the states are kicking back in different locations and are doing a pretty good job of rallying their resources. Now, immediately, what did we have this, the silencer bill that was passed apparently with, you know, a couple more than one state. And one of the things about this is, no, you're not going to see anybody come out and go, let's just see about selling stuff when we're in, let's see if the bat faggots are going to come and attack us. Everybody in the industry knows that you can't, you're just not going to do that. Why? The states will not help you. Okay? The Fed won't help you in anything. They're betraying us right now with the border, the turds with the coronavirus, murder, death, kill shots. That should tell you something there. The states are in bed with them on all those things. Or doing the constant, well, we're going to do something. Well, we're going to do something. Well, every week they don't do Jack or squat. Okay? So, counting on the states to have any spine at this point, you're just crazy. Now, they'll make all kinds of posturing and noise within the parameters laid down by the little spit-swappers, the ring-knockers, the omicle-wares, and the lodge buddies. And right now, the lodge buddies have been given the wink of the nod to do this to create sides within a fiction created by two groups of people who aren't riding with you. They ride for themselves. With that being the case what this is doing is laying the groundwork for the division whether this is the division with a plan the you know Civil War doesn't make any difference plus best laid plans of rats and rodents as far as what I mean by planned is in the ring knockers from both sides are following the orders of the globalists from outside The idea is to get more Americans killed but in the process not achieve anything Well that would happen if we let the Republic rats into the formula By pushing the Republirat endemicans out of the formula, the world changes and that's what needs to happen. So just a heads up, we're not counting on any of those fools on the other side to do much of anything other than spin their wheels, rotate a lot, make a little bit of pickle-smoking mirrors noise, and then after that, flop over on their back, defecate their spine, and run like hell for cover the moment anything, and I mean anything, gets serious. Because that's what they do, okay? They're worthless turds. You were a pueblo rat slash the fake conservatives, plastic ones. They'll yap about fight this, fight that. Then when the push comes to shove, they, like I said, the bung hole opens up really wide. You hear what sounds like a meat xylophone as their spine defecates out their bung hole. And then all of a sudden they're turning and you can't figure it out. How are they running without any spine? But by God they'll get those arms moving, they'll get those elbows pumping, and they'll get those tennis shoes flopping back to the rear. And by the time you even turn around and look, they'll have jumped over the first two tree lines and fence lines, and they're already on the third one. That's the kind of, oh, oh, oh, oh, fighters you're dealing with. Spineless curve, okay? on the other hand a whole bunch of other people have an attitude that's the people you're preparing for helping to provide ammunition for any even what they've passed where they thought they were going to you know gave this is the bought paid for whores in the court you know overturn whatever you'd whatever you could say you passed well you know the enemy court that is no part of the enemy camp is going to overturn whatever you've written in the way of legislation you just had to surrender here's no sense in and just act we ask Well, by having this stuff in the benchmark category, you know, the kickoff line, it can be used to get the ball rolling when the conflict does start. In other words, well, here's some of the stuff that you said you were on the line about. A whole bunch of them will be very panty-waist about this, but a percentage will pick up on it. The people who really are the hard chargers and who are of like mind with you. will actually pick up on it and it will be one of the several rallying points that brings them into the fight more effectively the paddy waste whose job it was to spin your wheels and really not do anything will be brushed off to the side we don't look back into the game okay and we get out with business but as far as a little bit later you were you doing we could negotiate remember yeah right well i didn't come here to fight about what fight it didn't come here so they could get more land that I'd have to work it right that's not the plan so we have a we have our own again there's those guys over there those other turds over there and then there's all of us over here outnumber both of those groups of shallow you know shallow brains we need to be ready to deal with them and then there's the people who look like I said if Trump were in power right now would all the red hats be telling you that you need to get behind Trump because demanding that you get the shot? Was that what we were supposed to do? Because I don't care what idiot stick is in the outhouse on Pennsylvania Avenue. You want to play that game, you can stuff it up behind and sideways. I don't care who you are. So, again, a lot of work to do. Now, when I meant Cheetah, I think it's the M-84 guys, for those who were the 380 Auto, there's a semi, the 380 Auto Beretta, real quick. that's a street magazine that it though they came out with that but it didn't kick uh... the effect back in the uh... seventies when they cheated came into uh... the public venue through a paretta and the the street mag model was always out there but almost as quick as introduced at the introduce the staggered mag right behind it and that one took the market uh... where is the straight and the street in line mag apparently it was already market overseas probably cop shops because radio was a very common cop shop for western europe and cop shop gun and uh... that's probably why they just offered it to see well how would it float on the market now you got good response but it very quickly was like a set over shadowed by a larger staggered magazine weapon that could you know fire that many more rounds there weren't that many guns in the sixties and seventies that had a large magazine capacity with a fistful of fury. There was a, you either went to the Browning high power and then Smith finally came up with a model. First it went with a model 39, which was a straight mag. And then all of a sudden they made the model 59 and man police departments bought it everywhere. It was the poor man, the sub machine gun. Yeah, it really was cause you know, carried 15 rounds and pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew carry a handful of mags and you got all kinds of firepower. lot of cop shop carried it detroit carried it for a while model fifty nine anyway uh... or or had the option to even when they change up a lot of different guns because the detroit pd would allow the other department personnel to carry a number of different weapons you didn't have to carry a standard single service revolver or some automatic pistol but they did have parameters and the smith model fifty nine met them all So, just a heads up. Anyway, with regard to 380 Auto, there's a couple of different places that have it out there. I believe, even Atlantic, just got some 380 Auto ammo in. I believe it is Fiocchi, but it could be wrong. It could be Silly Billit, you know, Silly Billit. But whichever it is, I'm sure it's serviceable enough. The big issue is price. So, again, look at the price of 9mm, even with the accelerated prices now, take a look at the 3D Auto. So, that's why, again, if you got it, fine, buy more ammo. If you don't have it and you were looking at this, it is America. You can own any gun you want, so if you got the money, go ahead and buy one anyway. They were a cool gun to shoot. It's just going to be, you know, save the ammo and save all your brass. It's not that it's obsolete, it's just, again, available production by comparison to the other more voluminous calibers. It's obvious which one they're going to make more money on by not changing up the tooling. And that's why the nines and the 40 cals and the 45 even are still out there and being replenished far more rapidly than 380 Auto or 32. Anyway, other things. In the AKs and ARs, in the AKs there's some Croatian uh... magazines that came in all steel military military contract production they are about eight fifty to nine dollars apiece they're good mags they were available what three years ago apparently is a batch which is came in again or maybe somebody traded off on from some point or another in the industry uh... you'll find that uh... let's see ApexGunParts.com ApexGunParts.com ApexGunParts.com has them. Also CenterFireSystems.com CenterFireSystems.com CenterFireSystems.com Now CenterFire also has some pretty good AR-15 buys but they did sell out a one yesterday. I again I haven't had a chance to check today I can't for the moment so if you want to go out and check it out see what they do have. $9 and $8 apiece for AR mags and they did have some AK mags again. I believe also the Sestava 30 round steel mags, brand new in the plastic, were also available. They're all AK mags. They'll go pretty much work with every AK out there. They're brand new in the wrapper. so you really can't go wrong with that. The big thing here again is at least eight to ten magazines, ideally 23 magazines per weapon. And I didn't just randomly pull that number out. I've explained that many times. It's a historical number that pretty well has been agreed to by a lot of different logistics personnel looking at projecting units or organizational strength that's going to be stuck out on a limb. uh... and this is something that uh... especially certain airborne uh... reaction reports identify quite accurately not just with u.s. military but with the british military and so again uh... the we're not going to carry mall in your regular combat load you're going to be using bandoliers or supplemental throwaway or just discardable carriers uh... better basically hanger gear others comes of those out there now if you got an a r right now You've got five flavors of color to choose from in standard military issue 30 round magazine battle ears. In addition to that, the AKs, there's a bunch of different hangers out there right now, although some of them are a lot heavier than the American counterparts in terms of weight. But there's a number of different pouches out there that do have carrier straps that will hold the AK mags. It's just you hate to throw them away because of how well they're built. For that matter, the Molywins aren't badly built. but they are designed to be a thrower you could drop them as needed to you eliminate the burden of the stuff hanging around your body and get in your way uh... you can also use them to cash uh... magazines in other words you're carrying your basic combat load you've dropped into an area we've talked about going in the heavy to begin with you're gonna leave your backpack you're gonna leave other equipment you've got carried in to support the unit this could be anywhere anything from batteries medical supplies to come a wire to wherever you could imagine wherever you establish a control point slash or a rally point, relieving behind a retainment team along with cashing the equipment in an area, you have a fallback point with additional magazines to replace combat consumption, and you're able to bring your combat load back up pretty quick because the magazines are already loaded so it's a flip around. You offload the MPs or take them out of your drop bag, reload your mag pouches, Now, once you've combat loaded up, then you start reloading the empty mags. You see how that works? Remember the first rule. When you fall back to a second position, if there's any break at all, you are immediately organizing ordnance. Scarfing stuff off both friendly and enemy dead. Reorganizing your combat load so that you can prioritize the shortest distance your mag pouches so that they're loaded properly so that the stuff that was harder to get to is now up front. Everything where it's quickest accessible. If you can top that off with other magazines from fallen comrades or from fallen enemy aggressors, that's a mobile resupply pod. then you do that and then you still accumulate everything else they have you get ready for either the counter attack or your counter attack depending on the situation you're in and so again any remember a counter attack and take anyone could take place anywhere from thirty seconds to thirty minutes after you take control of a position you must immediately be working at revitalizing your ability to dispense lethal force And that means again, picking the enemy dead. Any crew, any heavier weapon, belt-fed system, squad guns, crew-serve weapons, anything that might be right there available that you've taken, if it can immediately be brought into service and you're already supposed to be cross-training to be prepared for this, you swing it around, you check to make sure it's clear, clear and ready to roll, load it, and watch for what's coming. Because it's not an if, it's only a when. Now, it might be a blessing in that, well, if you're lucky, you've bloated the enemy enough that they've decided they've had enough for one day, and they may not counterattack. But there's a basic rule pretty much everybody's side. If you lose a position, the idea is to counterattack immediately before the aggressor has time to consolidate the position and prepare effective defense. Which is why you can expect an immediate counterattack. Oh, that's right. In other words, it works for you the way it understands the game plan. Next, pyrotechnics. I had a question because UN ammo, of course, went wholesale and now I don't think UN ammo was even on the map. I don't know what happened with them. They had did phenomenal business. uh... there are a couple other companies out there you need to search around for the uh... surplus life boat signaling flares and such the year there are companies out there still carrying them but we have to seek them out we're going to find them and that's going to take a little time but uh... one of the things that is still out there available are the parachute flares uh... there's been a lot of articles especially where the uh... you know to you know because the government you know was was you know who controlling the night would make vision but everybody's got it now so that table full so now they're of course pumping the thermal bs which that's not gonna last long either effect of a lot of will be shorter lived in the uh... night vision now it will be less expensive in theory but i can't see that because it's uh... grafting corruption time and uh... they're getting their their spending a tremendous amount on the new BS or thermal systems that they're pushing. They're not going to get any big deal on it. The contract is going to be set or pretty well locked into stone because of where they've anchored the thermal technology price-wise. So that's part of the many, many dollars that are going to be spent by government with putting a gun to your head for more digits to spend on whatever they're going to do with the military. The thing is that other than the special gimmick highlights slash, you know, silhouette highlighting, which kind of looks like CG from the 1970s. Yeah, if you think about it, it really does. It's like, okay, this is cool. But remember, guys, everything and anything that you bring to the table will be more than effective enough. You just have to understand how to master your local area control. And here's the first rule. Night vision isn't really valuable to anybody on either side if you can make, you know, night day. We're gonna control the night, it'll be darkness! No, it's not. With fires from below and fire from above and electronics used in random fashion, you can illuminate the area of operation quite nicely, neutralizing the value and of course also demonstrating the of having that technology hooked up to your head and body. And in reality, hampering what would be normal performance. Now I don't want the enemy to change what they're doing right now. I want them to keep doing what they're doing. Because whatever they develop, we'll be using also. And we're not going to be using it the same way that they do. We've talked about this many times, especially with passive collection. Thermal has a few issues with regard to being observed that they don't want to talk about. And one of them is an inversion having to do with heat buildup with the thermal technology. And it's rather fascinating because we found out that, again, it works pretty well with regard to scanning what is supposed to be a neutral technology. Everything has its glitch or its hiccup. I don't care how sophisticated the equipment is, whether it's... digital or if it's a mechanical thing, everything has what is basically a weak marker. Okay? I was joking about this. Now how many of you guys remember if you were in the military, if you were in the army, 17 kilo operator. You know what that is, right? 17 kilo? That's a ground surveillance radar operator. Well, it sounds cool. Oh, you're a ground surveillance operator? Yeah. Yeah, I can survey an area and anything that's got metal on it will ping and, you know. I can identify and give you an actual read and count on people and this and that and the other, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But in a World War III scenario, the life expectancy of a 17 kilo operator was anywhere from 9 to 11 minutes on the battlefield, because the moment they set off the equipment, the moment they become a zero-shootly target, X marks the spot. And so there used to be kind of like a little chuckle about that. By the way, they train 17 kilos down at Fortitude because they have the massive uh... fields of fire and lanes out there with regard to the environment and pretty well uh... the electronic or specialized electronic technology drone technology was developed out there to woman hutterley get the other places like that and evergreen uh... but well for we got you the facilities there are perfect because of isolation and the terrain that developing the equipment was was a satisfactory environment And so they eventually situated the first of the operator schools there. There are two or three offshoots of that. The Marine Corps has a variant and, of course, 17 kilos of the old designation. They've got two or three other soft breed steps of that because you're not just using ground surveillance radar anymore. But that's the nature of the game and that you know what you get out on the field you set something up It's really cool because it does this one thing and it really is devastating. Oh my god. It's devastating but when you do use it It has this tell this telltale kind of like when you're a poker player. It's like yeah, it's really he's really a good player But there's that one tell is he faking it or not? No, you can't hide that one The widget just you know, he the twitch is there the tick is there just can't be stopped It's psychosomatic or in this case, psycho-mechanical because it can be any number of things, bleeding of frequencies, use of specific radiation slash lighting, illumination, whatever. There's a number of different things. When you turn something on, it has the machinery itself as a signature all its own. That's why we told you about radio discipline for many, many, many, many, many years and why radios mostly need to be off. Okay, same with everything else. Get good at what you do. Master the trade. And then if it's all icing, it's all, you know, that's all cake, when you can use it. But the basics are more critical because we can perfect the basics first. Then we add the other technology. And then when we lose that other technology, we're immediately able to, we can immediately fall back on the core systems. and continue to function when most everybody else would falter because there's no foundational test, there's no foundational base of education. This is going to happen a lot with the modern armies, especially when you take a look at the Karen types that are going into the military right now with what it is they're going to be pushing. They're in trouble. We're not. Okay. We have foundational, in fact, we focus on that first. That's most important for all of you. This is why we've talked about that SOP idea. Standard operating procedure everything needs to be in play now So that you can add to the work base and the knowledge base when the time comes and you absorb not only what you need But what the enemy provides with the enemy has you're going to be taking from their warm dead hands See how that works wait. We got a lot of big we've got plenty to do Another thing here real quick magazines there is a flurry of M&P Smith & Wesson M&P mags. I don't know if they're I think they are a police service. Check CDNN Sports, CDNN Sports, and also, I believe, what a country! I know what a country has some really good barrel buys right now. In fact, some of the guys just told me they bought a number of different barrels from them. But what a country.com. They're over on the west coast, the left side of the mountains. Again, they have a mix of items. They're not too extensive, but what they do have, typically, if they post it, they have it in stock. Right now, I don't know where these came from, JG Sales. It'd be another one to check. JgSales.com. If you have a Smith & Wesson M&P in 9mm, you might want to check those sites just to see what it is that came in. They appear to be in very good, excellent condition, police service used. it's a pile of them because several different companies got them at the same time and if they're in stock well maybe somebody in the sweep in and buy them all because there's a lot of those M and P pistols out there now in fact a bunch of came from the surplus market from the police did we know the police department also uh... see what was the other one there revolvers I know what that there's a couple of Foreign revolvers coming in, but the problem is that they're not reasonably priced or actually quite pricey, but they're nothing really to jump at. I mean, they're not excited about them. They're European. They're double action, single action, basically look like about a K frame. I don't think they're an L or an N, but there's a couple of different companies, some of them you've never seen before, that are Boeing and revolvers. I would assume they might even be Turkish. But the interesting thing is price-wise there are double what you would be seeing for say one of the Filipino made K-frames that was out there manufactured for Rock Island or whatever. Now some of those have come back into stock but as soon as they've come back into stock they've been sold the Rock Island pistols. Their K-frame Smith & Wesson Model 10 copies in a two inch or a four inch. Personally, I get the four inch. That's just me. Why? I want more energy and I want more gun to beat somebody with. The K frame is not small. So as a stubby it's cool, but it's still not small. It's a good sized gun. You might as well put a four inch on it and get more energy out of the round and do a little more damage. However it works, if you run into these, the Rock Island Armory guns, they're all made by the same Filipino company overseas, and you'll notice that there's three or four different manufacturers you may run into, but they're all the same model of weapon. Frame, cylinder release button, everything is identical, even basic wood or rubber grips if they got a mock pock mire type grip on them. they work and they're all pretty much interchangeable. So there may be some different monikers on the stampings but not so much with regard to any change in the engineering and that's really a good thing. One nice thing about those, all the K-frame stuff you get out there works with them. The holsters, speed loader carriers and the speed loaders. So you don't have to find anything special. If it's a K-frame, it's a K-frame. uh... most of our thirty-eight special somebody asking right here their mostly thirty eight special i have not seen any of them three five seven magnum i'm not really worried about that i really be interested in that they have the k frames in the themselves are designed to be a utility mid-grade mid energy gone and uh... thirty eight special work just fine for that mission perfect as a matter of fact and there are some pretty mean load you can buy in the middle or just pretty decent on those guns so hopefully that answers a question because the the more expensive euro revolvers i'm sure a very good quality but it used to be used to be that uh... that's where we had the raw seeds coming in star and llama both have some really nice k and n frames that they built back to believe star made a copy of the old frame which you know the other smith a lot problems of the old frame but uh... star actually made a duplicate uh... all that with their striker system with regard to the hammer. But the guns themselves work just fine. If you've got something like that, I would resurrect those. If it's something you got from Grandpa's collection, I was looking at a collection this last weekend that somebody procured pretty much all of what was available. And it turns out that they got a nice number of 1980s and 1990s handguns. with multiple magazines. 10 of this, 15 of that. So whoever it was, whoever the person was that this collection came from, they were taking seriously their inventory. Always ask about magazines. That's especially critical because some of these guns, the magazines are much more expensive than when they first came out. A lot of people are smart. When the gun comes out, the mags are cheap. Then after they do the test phase, the mags double in price. So if you're smart, when they come out and they offer this bargain basement, they're really great. You know, $6 a mag or $8 a mag. Yeah, you buy the gun and buy as many of the mags as you can. The interesting thing is that with regard to, for instance, 40 Smith and Wesson, a lot of the guns that are out there are not cop shop service guns, but they are being passed down through the system, so to speak. and you're going to run into more and more of the 40 caliber pistols, they've now been around long enough, and if you're interested in that, then I would say especially with the way they've been harping with all the magazines and trying to get all the cop shops on to 9mm again, they got them all the way from it, they got them all the 40 caliber. Now they're sweeping them and pushing them all back. A nine millimeter would just so great and so much, but really, well, can I pull out the articles by the same author when they yapped about how he just had to have 40 Smith and Wesson? Because it is the same author who's writing all the same drivel again. And this is gimmicking. This is what they do to intentionally change the market because they know a lot of you bought 40 cal. So they're trying to get everything back into military NATO standard for the moment in preparation for what they're going to do here. and they want all the cop shops on the same gun or at least same chambering, doesn't have to be the same gun, so that when the time comes they can use them as part of the war machine against the American people. That's the purpose behind it. But remember it was the Fed and a lot of people that were being pumped by the Fed that brought 40 Smith and Wesson to the front the way that it did in those enforcement arms. If you are going to do 40 Smith, I recommend getting dies and getting bullet molds. But that's true for every gun that's out there. But 40 Smith especially, because again, if a greater number of departments switch over to 9mm again, oh and again, oh wait a minute, and they've done it a third or fourth time. This isn't the first time this BS has happened. If that does take place, more people will be fighting for less of an inventory of 40 Smith and Wesson surplus or spares or whatever. So I would recommend, like with all the rest of the guns we have, you get a decent bullet mold. All your pistols can do lead, all of them. And if you don't know how to do it, you need to learn how to copper plate. And what you do is you take your lead projectiles, you copper wash them. copper plate them and you eliminate a big chunk of the leading issues but this allows you to use lead projectiles and pretty much everything that's out there and mark minimize maintenance good call or jump in there yes text my skill what about what about that billion plus of rounds of forty smith and will afford smith and western hollow points that the obama administration bought right although it didn't go anywhere oh i know I what's fascinating about this is all this does is push them to nine millimeter com for conforming with military spec because remember nine millimeters NATO and I think that's why that why they're pushing them back plus their poor also pushing the market nobody thinks about this uh... you could probably well you could barrel change and mag change and not buy a whole new gun but most nobody thinks that way you know what I mean So instead it's pushing the market for whoever the little buddy is that's going to get the next contract for the bigger departments that are out there and you figure out how much taxpayer money they get for doing minimal. It's disgusting, but it's just the way the things work. And we watched this, seesaw nine millimeter is great, nine millimeter is horrible, nine millimeter is great, nine millimeter is horrible, nine millimeter is great, nine millimeter is horrible. I just keep all the 9mm pistols I've always had and hang in and buy more of whatever else I think I need. That's just how everybody should be doing it. After all, says America, you can own what you want and you should own a lot of it. But that's a good point. There's still going to be plenty of .40 caliber out there with somebody. However, again, the other issue, like I've always said, everybody's going to be fighting over what's on that warm, dead corpse you just made. Everybody goes, well, I'll resupply off the bad guys. Guys, your enemy has probably been shooting at you to try and keep himself alive. Let's remember that he's not going to have Buckets worth of ammunition left probably by the time you beat him. You will have a percentage of his ammo, but you're probably not going to get all of it. Just an idea there. And everybody thinking they're all going to do the same thing means that you're going to be sharing. you're gonna have to share. Besides, don't you want your buddy to pitch in in the firefight? Certainly do. So while you wanted everything that was in that corpse's magazine pouch, or magazine pouches, you're gonna probably have to divvy it out so that everybody gets something, and that way everybody comes up on that. Get that between your ears before we get to where we're going with this. And then always keep in the back of your mind, remember I have to share. Now some people are gonna say, I wouldn't do that. Well, When everybody is, you know, thugging around you, it'll be a little different story. It's like, well, dude, you know, there's like 200 rounds ammo there. I ain't got nothing. You're going to give me something. And the rest of the team is going to go, well, sure he is, because we're all the team. So, well, all of a sudden you're going to say you're not. Well, then you'll find out you really aren't part of the team. You probably won't even be there. Ooh, that wouldn't be good. So, and this is where you got to be friendly. Okay. Just remember that. Another thing with regard to that 40 Smith the government has this rule what weapons did they purchase? Well, they did purchase a number of different 40 caliber guns and I would remind everybody if you know what they got The odd man out actually there even some service government agencies that have it three five seven SIG If you got 40 cal you just all you do is barrel change and you've got three five seven SIG So that would be another one that would behoove you that if you have a 40 caliber pistol right now and you can buy a .357 Sig pistol to go, or forgive me, barrel to go on your gun, I would invest in that. That's one of those things where it's pretty well guaranteed. You don't have to do anything other than a barrel change. It's a good hot round. It's a bottleneck, you know, Coke bottle type automatic cartridge. works really well they always do the little baby rifle round is what it comes down to and uh... there are a number of departments and there are government agencies some of which you're not even supposed to know about three five seven sieg as their standard other reason to have another barrel system make it up for that particular weapon if you need to do a main spring into a main spring uh... not a big deal prices and all that great the barrel of course is going to be unique price wise but not too extreme and it is that they are out there in fact three five seven the say gives uh... little bit of a dog for the moment in terms of certain pistol that means that the uh... cost of the barrel won't be that extreme and once you got it you got it it's part of your inventory any all-text back just be safe to know anybody out there Yeah, I was just going to say, I've got a SIG in 226 and 40 Smith, and that's the reason why I got it. I haven't gotten the barrel yet. I'm almost pretty hard to find and expensive as far as the 350 Fiverr SIG goes. Right. Well, it was out there, it's like all the rest. It was out there and reasonably priced and really wasn't any more expensive than 40 Smith for a long period of time. But when the ammunition vacuum sweeper began, 357 SIG disappeared pretty quick. I got two or three people. I pointed them to some shops that we had here local that didn't have any nine for a little bit. I mean, they didn't have any, but they still had some 357 SIG because nobody knew they had it on the shelf. They didn't look. And when they did, they came in and they vacuum sweepered everything else up. So that is one of the issues. It's kind of like 300 Blackout. It's a good round. It's been around for quite some time. 357 Sig is not a spring chicken. But it again also is unique production wise. It's not unique cost for them to build wise because it's just 357 bullets. 357 Sig, 357 Magnum. The whole family of 38 Special and 357 projectiles can be used in 357 Sig. purely a matter of how motivated you are to calculate, figure out the load specs, and a lot of people already have, so there's no reinventing, you don't have to reinvent the wheel there. Take advantage of what's on the shelf and ready to go, bullet wise, and powder wise, you can come up with some pretty decent economy loads that will still push the round down pretty fast. So, good point. I've been able to find the 40 Smith & Wesson pretty regularly here lately, but it seems to be coming out. The 357 SIG is still very... I don't really see it out there much. You can find it online, but then it's kind of pricey too. Right. Then they want the unobtainium price. It's like, oh, it doesn't look like I'm buying that one. No way. Now, that's another thing is that, again, the weapon itself, if you've already got one, I just keep squirreling away more ammunition and just understand that, you know, it can be an auxiliary gun for the moment if you're, you know, having a problem finding a .40-cal barrel for the .357 SIG you might have. Although that should be easier going from a .357 SIG to a .40-cal barrel, it's just a matter of connecting the dots, figuring out where the, where what you need is stored. because they're more likely that's out there. The other thing about the 357 SIG is its performance range in terms of armor penetration. One of the things nobody thought about being able to do, I mentioned the 357 Magnum AP bullets. Well, you know what? Winchester offers those projectiles. They don't just offer the loaded rounds. If you look, now I don't know what they have in terms of actual inventory right now, but I know they list them still. If you go look at Winchester's bullet production, and what these are, are a conical projectile 3-5-7 diameter bullet that weighs in, I believe the lightest is 100M. I think their low is 125 grain, but I'm pretty sure that it was a 137 grain for the heavier standard AP. Now this is conical shaped full jacket. It's a dense jacket. It does not really have a penetrator. It's just the design of the bullet that does all the work. And it was the original projectile that sold the 357 Magnum Model 27 highway patrolman. Because that's where they always said, you know, 357 will split an engine block. Well, that was because of the Conical Winchester AP round that was built for the specifically to mate with the 357 or magnums of the Model 27 end frame. And now that bullet will mate just fine, sliding it over to a 3576. And that makes it a pretty effective, who knows, maybe even anti-armor for, you know, body armor. device for personal manufacture. Again, the bullets are out there, Winchester still lists them. In fact, Winchester, up until just a few years ago that I know of, it's just that everybody might have bought them out with all the stuff that's been going on. But up until just a few years ago, Winchester was still listing their 357 Conical AP in the ammunition, loaded ammunition category. So that's another thing to take into consideration. If you're familiar, let's see what else we have. That's pretty well it. Magazine pouches, everything else is the same. Somebody's probably wondering. Everything is identical. If you've got 40 Smith and Wesson, you've got 357 SIG for holsters, for leather, for magazine pouches, etc. Even the magazines, because there is no SIG, you know, as far as feed problems, there aren't any. The 357 SIG functions flawlessly. that one of those rounds that came out and it caught a little bit but then things you know travel with other propaganda another direction of the rest of history now also um... and on history uh... the six point eight remington round now there are still barrels out there for that in in the air fifteen i want to touch on this just for a minute And in fact, over at Gun Parts Corp.com, I mentioned them earlier, they have a number of barrels available right now in length and weight in the 6.8 Remington round. I barely, vaguely remember when that round came out, but I have seen absolutely nothing. I had several people ask about that over the weekend about the Remington, you know, express loads that they came up with. I had to say I haven't seen anything and I haven't seen them improving ammunition you know like maybe it's the last thing left on the shelf whoever had them bought up everything that they could find because you don't even see any of those as leftovers in the odd man out ammunition. The European stuff is there but not the Remington load so Again, I don't know where we could go for something like that. You're still going to probably have a build drone, RCBS, go to RCBS and build you a set of dies, and then you start seriously looking at what can I make the brass out of. If you didn't save your brass, what is the basis for the case? Because most all of the new sophisticated name brand rounds are not really all that unique or new. They're basically a lot of the wildcat rounds that were developed in the 70s, reintroduced, and now, you know, taking shape again. But the basics were already there. They, the fact that it's like anything, it's in 338, okay, because it's not just 338 LaPua. The reason that even 338 LaPua exists is because of 338 Winchester. 338 Wynn, a capable elephant round, if you've ever seen it, chubby stubby. uh... is uh... one of those rounds that it would just go down range like a freight train well when uh... african hunting went down because people were shooting each other we all that were bipeds you know black white agent they didn't care to shoot everybody uh... the hunting over in africa backed off as far as people taking trips to africa intern the ammunition you know kind of you'll waned to too uh... it's always been a price a chunk of money but not many people be shooting uh... over here if they didn't think they would be hunting over there but the gun still sold that's why when all said we got this new ralph three thirty eight local where the local work foundations came from worthy three thirty eight wind not the design overall but the bullet because the bullets were cheap and they were available connected anything new quite called it in there Yeah Mark, I just wanted to make the comment that the 3576 is basically the Wildcat cartridge, the 3845. Anybody remember then? Yeah, it's the same idea. I've got a couple, or the standard 1911. The only thing you do is you change the barrel. Everything else works just the way it's supposed to. The problem is ammunition, but it was again, a chubby, stubby, stepped projectile. in 3.57 slash 9 millimeter and it worked flawlessly. It's not a bad little round. What it comes down to is anytime anybody's had a standard straight case somebody has always developed a wildcat or a unique bottleneck case to improve velocity and you know energy. 9 millimeter Parabellum has 30 Luger you know the 7.65 Luger round. It's a flat shooter. It has almost as it has the same energy as a standard M1 carbine out of a standard Luger. The same is true with the round you just mentioned the 45 9 millimeters 45 357 whichever year those were produced and they actually introduced it both ways back in the 70s it was produced as the as a 357 magnums, you know type of chubby stubby round The I picked up a set of guys to make my own ammo at a gun show Yep, and I think that was the primary source of brass for it. I'm not sure I ever saw any factory produced Well, the other option is you can squeeze it down just like you can stretch it out Again, you you're sure gonna have to some reaming, you know case reaming But you can take standard 45 ACP with some thermal lube form that down to nine millimeter you know you'll forty five nine millimeter what you're talking about a bottleneck case it's like uh... what we were talking about before how did they make all these wildcat five five six rounds the same thing they basically uh... you know not the case down cut it down and then they open it up and reform it and remit to take some of the extra meat off of the uh... throat you know the uh... throat you know with the panel arrests and uh... they got themselves a bullet. Forgive me, have themselves a cartridge which they can load with whatever they want, way of a bullet. Longs it conforms to the length of the magazine, from front to back. On that note, another neat thing about that little 45 to 9, well we'll just say 45 to 9 millimeter, 45 to 357 Magnum, there were a few little short stroke bolt action rifles. basically uh... what the guy did and i don't know what ever happened to that company but he made a copy of it based on the destroyer car being and if you're wondering what the destroyer looks like go over to it's a monster by guys it's a spanish mouser was used as a police car being they were magazine fed well anyway the guy basically made the destroyer car being only he did it in forty five uh... nine millimeter and it had the same premise using 45 ACP 1911 magazines. They locked right in front of the trigger guard. Otherwise, it was a Mauser type action. I think he went with polymer. He had both wood and polymer stocks. He went with birch stocks or polymer. You had an option. Didn't do oak or bring up oak walnut. but uh... he did uh... to a very fine job with the metallurgy and everything and the guns were popular but they were very short-lived in terms of the market and i don't know what happened to the uh... manufacture about the same time that the linda's and all of those guns came out and that was a little guy manufacturing you know production facility that did a lot of work a lot of unique work to get everybody gave away a lot of ideas The neat thing about that for those of you who don't know what a destroyer carbine looks like, go over, you can obviously do a search, but if you want to see where they're still available and cheap, with no bolts, go over to E-Sarco, Inc.com, Sarco, Inc.com, Sarco, Inc.com, and then go over into their barreled actions and rifles. They're listed in both sections, or at least they were with the page the way they reorganized it. They actually will give you a deal on multiples of those destroyer carbines which are in, I believe, 9mm Largo. Now, they have ammunition for the rifle, but they don't have bolts. Now, if somebody was highly motivated, you could make new bolts for that gun, and you'd have a whole bunch of those guns available. But first you need a destroyer carbine bolt to be able to match up and make it work. And that would be an interesting project in and of itself. As far as the action goes, you might be able to use 7mm Mauser firing pins for that particular project. And those are big, long, single-piece, ball-firing fans, guys. Where's the top? For everybody out there, God bless the Republic. Yes, with the new world order, we shall prevail. The Empire is on the run. We're in a march. We gotta get on the way. Craig from Forbid Knowledge coming up next. Don't touch that dial. We'll be back at 8 o'clock for the evening. It's 7 o'clock. Beautiful day outside. Temperatures balanced out. 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