July 28, 2021
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4h 5m
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2021
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Mark Koernke discussed firearms design, manufacturing standards, and ammunition technology across three hours of programming on July 28, 2021. The first hour focused on rifle platforms (AR-15, AK, M16, Mauser systems) and their historical development, emphasizing standardization, parts compatibility, and material options for long-term sustainability. The second hour covered receiver materials (steel, aluminum, wood, polymer, malleable iron), maintenance challenges, and practical ammunition selection (5.56, 7.62x39, 300 Blackout). The third hour explored advanced ammunition concepts including SABOT rounds, armor-piercing projectiles, and historical penetrator designs, with callers discussing practical applications and material science.
- ar-15
- m16
- ak platform
- sabot rounds
- ammunition
- 5.56 nato
- 7.62x39
- 300 blackout
- armor penetration
- receiver materials
- weapons manufacturing
- standardization
- spare parts
- magazines
- preparedness
- militia
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Constitution. You know, the right to bear arms is because that's the last form of defense against tyranny, not to hunt, to protect yourself from the police. Anybody that wants to disarm me can drop dead. Anybody that wants to make me unarmed and helpless, people that want to literally create the proven plents are killed called gun-free zones, we're going to beat you, we'll vote you out of office or suck on my machine gun. I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, We've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrant flavored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost. You're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. There's a number you've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors. So their children will be mine. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God, keep the torture freedom bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the midst for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as Tyrant trampled each God-given right, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave, dill the land of the free? Every time I listen to the visitor from the past, there's a spot there where it says, afraid to fight. And it's not so much that. I always think about how I'm actually going to be either bushwhacking or ambushing each and every one of my enemies that are on the list and it's a long one and then I'm going to add to the list and well not so much we're going to stand up in front of them as just beat the living snout out of every angle we possibly can and slaughter the bastard with reckless abandon as we sing the praises of our battle for we shall sing as we slay. After all, it was good enough for the Rohorim, it's good enough for us. Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. This is the first hour of the afternoon intelligence report. I'm Mark Kurnkey, one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories north of the southeast, west, and center. Ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on LibertyTreeRadio.4MG.com Liberty Tree Radio on satellite. And we are on AM and FM micro stations, CB base stations, good afternoon, channel 27 and 29, and channel 31 test. And UltraNet, hallmark and golden spike technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. The red flag stores work as relays but in a very subaltern way. Anyway, it is weapons Wednesday. It is the 28th of July. It is the, well, it is first of all, hold on here. I think it's 5.06. We always hit it about right. 5.06 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. And it is the 13th year of open Fabian socialists and Soviet socialists. Occupation of America with a K. 2021 Old Earth Calendar, 2021 Battle for the Republic. The Dance of Swords. And we shall sing as we slay. Now for everybody out there, weapons Wednesday, a couple things really interesting. How many of you know that there are a couple of other countries right now adopting the basic either M4 or the M16A2 rifle in our configuration, US military configuration, it's been in place for quite some time. Now there's some variations on the theme, but these look like they're going to be contract runs from outside the United States where basically the industrial potential of the countries involved are going to be building the standard M16 platform slash system slash design and they're going to stick with the basics which is a wise thing to do. It is rather interesting that we got some punk-willy piece of crap that of course is going to be grossly over complicated, made out of plastic, and is going to be in a bastard caliber, as everybody else of course is adopting our rifle. But that's not a new thing in reality. If you go back to the history of firearms, when the innovations take place, The colonial powers typically had to change out their systems and of course they would export or send a weapon out that they felt was lesser than what it is that they'd be carrying. Preferably also reducing the firepower of the contract, minimizing the quote unquote threat from outside the country may be coming back at you. Or if you want to go out and invade the country that you're providing arms to, you know, you can use some of their technology but you can also isolate them. And you made money both ways, you make money selling the weapons and then you make money oppressing the population as you go in to steal their stuff because you're going to attack them after you become friends as they say. But in the early 1900s, let's say, or late 1800s, the dominant AK of the day, so to speak, the dominant arm was the Mauser action. There were many other weapons out there. I mean the United States at the time had let's say 1898 Had the 3040 Craig slash Craig Jorgensen action in service a side gate non stripper clip fed Bolt action rifle everybody was using manually operated weapons. So the bolt action is not an issue It was actually a very slick side weapon if you've ever had a 3040 Craig and I've had it more than a few of them As my dad used to call them, they were a butter action. They just literally were so absolutely smooth and so comfortable to operate that they were, again, a very quick action. Something which they don't acknowledge in the, oh, we got to piss on the Craig Jorgensen. Most people who piss on the Craig Jorgensen are following a political agenda, which we understand. Every weapon has advantages and disadvantages. One thing about the Craig, The 3040 Craig, a US cartridge, 30 caliber, okay, is that it was a very slick operating action. Now, it was a side gate. If you're not familiar with that, it's not the last time we would buy something like that, by the way. The side gate, you dropped open the gate, you dropped your cartridges in, you shut the gate, which of course allowed the follower to push and engage. and you had a snail type arrangement with the way that the rounds came around to be introduced to the bolt and the rest is history. Now they made car beams, they made what they called musketoons or short rifles, actually two banners, and then they did make longer rifles of bearing patterns, not just for the US, but a few other countries Kind of bought into it a little bit, but not much and in fact remember It's the Jorgensen rifle the design actually comes from Europe not from the US That was our weapon Going into the span and more Spanish-American war which of course they want you all to forget now or if they do it's only You know usual evil bad bad American blah blah blah web piss on that whatever and no no real relevant real history just lots of yap and political politicalization anyway At that time, the Mauser though is sold everywhere. I mean, the cheapest, poorest country on the planet could buy a Mauser action of one type or another. And there was a, as you know, if you pay attention, if you know that there's a, you know, 91, 93, you know, the 95, 96, and then the 98, well, and there are some variations in between that just didn't catch on because Mauser is slid right by the designs. But these basic actions for consider that there only a year or two three years apart actually dominated the arms industry across the planet. Eventually we would buy a Mauser system. We actually gave it a different name we called the M1903. Oh wait a minute K98. One, two, three, four, five. That's only five years later all of a sudden we have a Mauser platform a Mauser design in service. But with a lot of modifications that make it much more economical and useful, if you're looking at trying to minimize cost and maximize end result. One thing about the American rifles, even the Craig had really optimal sights, depending on which model you were carrying. The carbines, needless to say, were supposed to be saddle slash cav carbs slash support carbine rifles, you know, light rifles. shorter barrel. But all the rest actually performed well out to intermediate and long range. The .30 caliber pencil bullet that they shot with the Craig did well. Its counterpart at that time, the K98 Mauser or the say the .96 and .95s, used a pencil bullet also. Contrary to the whole idea that the Spitzer Spearpoint or the Sierra Boattail was the norm for the Germans. No, everybody was on pencil bullet design. because they understood the both they did understand the ballistics of also Mmm, kinetic energy damage when it got to the delivery end a pencil bullet has a tendency to do a lot of pitching out once it hits you It doesn't normally just bore through you like an ice pick although at close ranges that will be the case But at the standard battle range Just like everybody goes, oh my god, they were so smart, they made the M16 round, pitching on, it's not the bullet weight, it's the damage. Guys, that formula has been in place forever, it's just they go back to it, they leave it, they go back to what they leave it, they go back to what they leave it. I'm sure some dunderhead right now is looking at the National Archives and is going to pull a bunch of the garbage that you haven't seen for 30, 40, 50, or 70 years. and declare that it's their Weisenheimer latest idea. It's like nothing anybody else seen. Oh my god, and then, and look what it can do. They're already doing this by going up in caliber. They're grudgingly acknowledging what people have been saying for, I don't know, since the creation of the 556 round, that a superiority round with penetration would be better, typically because again, you're outnumbered. and you still have to deal with a lot of other problems on the battlefield, but if you've got a heavier bullet with a greater range in your enemy's weapon, then you have battlefield superiority in terms of ability to engage, perform, and deplete the enemy's inventories, especially if they are a mobile offensive element. The whole math formula is, of course they throw that all, you know, you're not supposed to even talk about it. I'm a heretic right now for even saying what I'm saying. But fact of the matter is that right now the M16 and the AK are the Mauser rifle of their day. Everybody would say the other way around, you know, the K98, as I mentioned earlier, is like the AK of its day. Well, it's true. The dominant arm Most efficient, simple for most, and most of the engineering processes and the mechanical processes of the day, the Mauser lend itself to that. Needless to say also, Mauser were, but also any number of other German steelmongers and Dutch steelmongers, oh and Belgian steelmongers, oh wait a minute, and French steelmongers, oh wait a minute, and Italian steelmongers sold a whole hell of a lot of machinery to build those rifles. Most important, it wasn't just the machinery, but understand if you know the history of guns from that era, say for the last 100 years, the tooling and everything from the mechanical heads, the orbiters, cutters, anything and everything that you may not be familiar with, but might be able to wrap your brain around. These tools are built for building a certain system. This is why a system can survive for such a long period of time even though it would be quote-unquote obsolescent or obsolete and that term is really not applicable per se because well does it still do its original job? Yes. Can it perform within the parameters required and can it be improved? Yes, in fact We can take a with modern especially combinations of metallurgy and tooling. By God we could take the Mauser and tune it right up to you know the precision of the most sophisticated sniper rifle out there and produce it as a standard off-the-shelf gun. Now in reality way back when, when the US made its Mauser rifle the M1903 we did just that. We tightened up the bore. We of course went with the 30 caliber. The Germans went with 7.9, 2.0, 7.65, 7 millimeter, 6.5. There was a 6.5 Mauser. Now to be confused, 6.5 Swedish Mauser. And there were other calibers available, needless to say also the European calibers that were standard, and or in South America, that were developed and in fact embraced with the Mauser systems. Well, we went with a totally different round. In fact, more powerful than all the rest basically out there. A unique round unto itself. And it was the M1903, soon to be called the 30-06 round. Which of course really kind of parallels because you know what that 30-06 means. It's the old nomenclature for the old cartridge powder formula that was a specification laid down really in the black powder era. But it rolled over into the beginning and early stages of most weapons pre-World War I. Now what's interesting is again, in the modern age, here we have all these other countries that are taking advantage of what? Of vast and massive serfia of spare parts and inventory components. Now the problem is everybody will be competing for the same pool of goodies, kind of like when you were all going after the toilet paper last year, right? Okay, don't make any mistake about this. It's really great that everybody is, you know, cranking out AR-15s or M16s. But remember that when the time comes and the kickoff starts, everybody is also focused on all of the spare parts inventory, magazine inventory, even munitions, ammunition, is especially critical in that, remember, everybody's pulling the trigger at the same time and almost everybody is armed with the same weapon. If they're not, they're armed with the AK family, either 7.60x39, which is still dominant, and 5.45x39, which was supposed to aggressively replace it. And for the most part is. Now, both of the cartridges we're talking about with the AK and the AR, unlike the K98, which, by the way, when I say K98 Mauser, that could be produced in 8mm Mauser, 7.92x57, or it could be done in 7 or any other caliber they wanted, the action itself, would lend itself towards that. But with the AK, we only have a very small, tight number of options. And this is where the AR now becomes the dominant with the penny-pinching, depression-type armies and post-big war armies that will be depleted in money and resources, where the AR becomes a far better choice than any of the gobbledygook guns that the government is presently going through, like the 6.8 piece of trash that they've come up with. It's a lose-lose gun, okay, in the long run. And there's a reason. It's not an accident. You're here to plan to lose. When you've got people betraying you, this is what they do. But if you think about it, most of these other countries, in the past when they bought Mausers, the thing is they looked for durability. You know, it was how rugged was the action? Could it survive? Long-term service, which it did. Hell, right now there are some countries in South America just now getting rid of the last of their K98s or any of the other Bousers that they've held in reserve for, what, 100 years? In either first-line action or progressively into reserve and into auxiliary. And those are where those weapons are coming from, these caches that are all over the place in 765 Argentine. even 8mm rolls or 7mm, very common in South America. Now, in the AK, I really, we do know that we can build the AKs in 5.56 and by the way, there's the barrels and all of that. There's a bunch of stuff that was made by the Eastern Bloc countries that became independent and just after they found freedom and then were retaken by the Jewish mafia, once they were taken by the Jewish mafia, they're screwed. That just happened in Romania where they just had their second resurgence of revolting against the Scheister bankers. First they had the ones that were running Eastern Europe, then they had the ones that came in and slid in because they either bought or strong armed the new Romanian government, the rest is history as they say. But those countries pretty much have panned out or leveled out in terms of they can't afford to do any more right now than stick with what they've got. They do have a hodgepodge to a degree because they still have their 7.62x39 inventories and they not got rid of all those. Five, four or five inventories were going up because that was the transition at the end of the Cold War. They're kind of stuck there. Some of these countries like Poland decide to go right over to 5.56, standard NATO, but they have all the other transition guns. So none of them have gotten rid of and in fact they all have three basic calibers still in service in some way and it does, despite the idea that we have one caliber that does everything, but we have three calibers that do everything. I mean, we're talking like we'd fall on the Eastern Block. Now, here's the thing about, that's an advantage about the Air 15, as we've said before, it's a piece of junk, but it's a great piece of junk. It's a Lego block gun. If whatever happens after World War III slash or after the American War for Independence, which will then bring in a global war of some kind. The one advantage of the Air 15 is whatever you have left over in the way of stocks, your existing production could actually produce parts of what you need and you're looking at being able to transist to whatever caliber you choose or whatever happens to be a big pile of something laying around. And rather than spending digits and going into banker debt with the dirty whores that have caused all the problems in the first place, you are able to consume or at least retain those munitions as a way to maintain national defense while not spending any more on the defense or element of what is going to be a significant burden after a conflict which will include a depression or a series of staggering or the fake term they came up with what they call recession which in reality are little depressions. They didn't want to use the word depression because that would remind you that the depression is still out there. You can still do it, real easy by the way. But instead they came up with recession. So if we use their vocabulary with the addition, one way or another there's going to be a series of money hiccups where there just isn't going to be any cash capital out there, anything. You're going to have a downturn in manufacturing across the board. Why? Well, it won't be the patriots in the militia that are destroying manufacturing. It'll be the skanks in government who will be attacking the American people, you know, like the pedo sniffer meat puppet who said that he, you know, we, what use that's useless for us to resist because do we have nukes and F-15s? Well, that obviously implies that the pedo meat puppet sniffer And of course Obama who runs him and the Jewish mob who runs all of them plan on using nukes on him. Oh, that means they got to destroy a lot of stuff. In the process of destroying a lot of stuff, you can't produce things. Whole manufacturing arms can be destroyed. I mean, if you start going strategic, even tactical nuke, there is no real estate, that thing is tactical, but it's still big. Okay, but I guess, yeah, there is tactical nuke. Smaller grade highly devastating weapons will cause lots and lots of infrastructure damage that will simply be irreplaceable. Now, as I've told you a million times, whoever starts wrapping their brain around the long haul and again, improvising, adapting and overcoming is going to be way ahead of the game and will not get caught flat-footed during these cycles that are part of the long haul towards retaining our freedom and of course maintaining our liberty. Now one of the things that's interesting is again while the AR, like I said, it's a piece of junk, but it's a cool piece of junk, there's a lot of neat things that can be done with it to include simplifying the design, which by the way everybody's already been working on, but maintaining the basic design because of the vast number of component parts available. In fact, most of the components can be made cruder and ruder on the outside, but still maintained finish and fitwise internally, and function just as well as any existing AR M16 weapon system built today. So what it comes down to is we're at and again part of the big math formula is this we're still going to be keeping all the AKs the SKS is the K98 Mausers your Rugers your colts your whatever it is you've got out there But it is inevitable inevitable because of the fast inventory of AR 15 type weapon systems that are out there that it would be logical and prudent to to have a plan for sustainment. Now here's the thing that changes is product materials used to end up with the end result components that are more durable. Let me reinforce something here that I've talked about for a long time. Steel receivers. The AR-15 is a pretty durable weapon with aluminum receiver upper and lower. But have you ever seen an AR-15 steel upper and lower? Now guess what? They do build them. Now there was, there were two companies building stainless steel uppers and lowers. And I kicked myself in the rumpus because I never invested in those. And the guy that came out with them originally back in the 80s, his argument was, you know, the famous with any of the other guns that you saw up there where they were, you were experimenting with stainless. is you have an excellent solution to deal with oxidation, you know, environment, salt water, going from salt water environment or just being out in the field. It takes time, but the aluminum receiver's on the Air 15 with enough salts, body salts, oils, and in fact, wet, and the receivers will start to break down. There is an entire arsenal armorers series just on degradation of the AR-15 receivers. It's seven, eight books. I have three. I have three of them. Eight and a half by 11 format. They were done back during the Vietnam War. At the end of the Vietnam War, this stuff was laying all over the place. People were, the DOD was sliding stuff out the door left, right, up and down, mostly so the OA boys could steal it and take it overseas and sell it to be used against us. But, fact of the matter is, the information is out there and it's fascinating to read. It's amazing a lot of you guys out there have a lot more electricity running in your body body salts and oils and the way that your body you know again your body is covered with pores and Your hands alone can are just like aliens acid for blood some of you are worse than others What's fascinating to me is that guys actually carried some of these weapons that were damaged by? long-term personal wear even though some of them the damage was so extensive as to literally DX the receiver. In other words they couldn't patch it, fix it, paint it, do anything with it. You know you actually that's a trick. I've told you many times how many of you had any M16A1s that were issued to you when you were in service. You might recall you had what looked like purple paint, well it was fingernail polish. They used a lacquer paint, but if you couldn't grab it, you went and found a dark, dark, dark fingernail polish. Anywhere where you had a significant gouge or divot in the receivers, you cover it with fingernail polish. And that's why a lot of you guys saw what was like a purple. It was like, it looks purple. It does look purple. It is purple. And you know, what it was is by filling in that aluminum at that point, It did not allow for oxygen to make contact with the exposed core metal, which in turn would develop an oxidation reaction, an electrolysis reaction, and the aluminum literally, it's like aliens, it's like water hitting a sugar cube. Okay? This is reality that nobody talks about. So most of you, we all baby our guns. But the long-term results of the AR of what happens with the aluminum receiver is something that they already know in the system, but their logic is, don't worry, we'll make more. And before that happens, we either slide them out the back door to the Israeli so they can sell them to your enemies, you know, shoot at us, or they'll steal them from themselves, of course. But they're going to be out of our hands and typically cycle through. It's interesting though that even to this day a lot of M16A1s are out there in Syria where the Israelis slid them sideways or moved them over into Lebanon and to stir the pot, you know, ISIS, Israeli Secret Intelligence Service took vast quantities of the M16A1s that we gave the Israelis and slid them sideways to supply ISIS. Those weapons in turn were captured because they were Department of Defense weapons and registered under the UN. It was very easy to track back to where the guns came from. Okay? Now, these weapons are the idea behind these platforms being done in steel. Doesn't mean they have to be, but it is another option. Why? Well, steel rust, it oxidizes too, but far more durable. If you were looking to build a passing down multiple generation kind of weapon, where you can also plug and play whatever you want. Aluminum receiver for the top, steel receiver for the bottom. Yep, wherever you do have any exposed metals, you're going to have to make sure your finishes are maintained. Hmm, that lacquer fingernail polish comes in handy. Any place where you have metal contact, where you have bare metal on metal, I mentioned earlier, electrolysis. However, it does take a long time. The aircraft aluminum, the different grades of aluminum react differently when they're integrated with steel. There go you have steel internal parts in your AR-15, don't you? What's your hammer made out of? What are your cross pins made out of? What's your sear made out of? Oh, that's all steel. Well, okay, so if you're concerned about an upper and lower receiver making contact with each other, consider that your AR-15 you're carrying right now only already has a whole pile of chicklet parts made out of steel that have obviously been oxidized, you know, they've been finished in a parker eyes or any number of other finishes. So that creates an air barrier between the two metals, a buffer. Not to mention that you do have any anodizing process with the receivers in and out. They're not usually just coated on the outside, though, are they? No, they're plated all at the same time. That's still a word that we're down, but you still don't see, even though your AR-15, all the working parts, all those little pins, everything turns and moves to a certain degree. That round pin that's in that lower receiver. How about your lock pins that go across between your upper and lower? They're steel. Do you see electrolysis issues there? Nope, you know, not significant within any time that you've been alive. Okay, so using steel means that we can actually extend or create a longer life weapon, but with the same minimal recoil and maximum integrated parts reliability that we've come to love and enjoy with regard to the AR-15, making it a very viable choice for the long haul because we can start transitioning from the less, well let's say, overly sophisticated components and utilize existing materials that will most probably be available. We may not have 4140 and 4130 chromoly steel to work with, but guess what? With the lower receiver, we don't really need it. The upper, I'd go best quality I can, but we use an aluminum receiver right now, so making a punky, steel receiver or here's the other fun one. Now this is going to sound weird and you know I've mentioned this many times but if I hadn't had a friend of ours, you know, Sergeant Ellsworth, Larry did a lot of interesting research and he also was a phenomenal cuttiser of arms. But what's interesting is we started getting into malleable iron and we found out after we did a little more reading, more research, more work to do Turns out malleable iron, malleable, go look this up, malleable iron, very economical and used for a lot of things you would never believe in military application right now. Now, what's the advantage? Well hell, malleable iron is a whole hell of a lot cheaper and easier to work than steel and what's interesting is that realistically with the existing number of cartridges available with the AR-15, it would be possible to actually work a malleable iron or low-grade steel, lower receiver, that wouldn't be a big deal, but the upper could possibly even be done in malleable iron. In fact, it would be a combination, it would be a hot forge, And then finished machining would be done just as it would be done, it's done right now on the aluminum components that are forged, you know, cast forged. Strike, boom, you know, basic mold, and then you do all your finished machining. The difference is this. Now I'm going to point this out too. All of the exterior finish that's mostly done is a waste of tooling time. You realize that, you know, I was looking at this the other day, we had a conversation with somebody about If you go take a look, you can actually buy these right now. You can go to any of these companies and do 80% uppers or 80% lowers. If you're working with a forged, you know, a forged upper or lower, go take a look at a raw one. Ask yourself, okay, if I really were trying to get this thing done fast, once I do that forging, how much do I not have to finish? And most people don't think about that that way. Well, we've got to make it lighter. We've got to make it... No, we don't. You know, first of all, we're mostly in defensive mode, so wherever we're traveling the weapon, we can handle the weight of the weapon. But consider this. The shearing down of weight was based on the idea. I mean, certainly that you could carry more ammo, but it was also the limitation that the infantry had to carry their weapons so far, and it was nine-pound rifle this and nine-pound rifle that, and we were going to get a seven-pound rifle two pounds. Well by the time we're done, go away your new AR with all the junk and junk you put on it. We've exceeded the nine pound mark a long time ago. So that whole argument's gone, but here's the thing, what they didn't tell you. A heavier weapon isn't really relevant because most everybody rides into combat. It's true. Dun dun dun dun dun dun. You know, air mech, you're flying across the sky, is hella born and you get dropped in, or you're airborne, you get dropped in the sky, gravity sucks and the parachute slows it down. or you're mechanized, right? For the average army out there, there is, you're always infantry. You know, I've taught everybody that we argue that from the get go. Everybody's infantry. Don't care what your MOS is. Don't care what you're doing for support. You're always carrying that pistol and rifle because you're always infantry. But you're very seldom leg infantry going in. Oh, you may be leg infantry coming out unassing the AO trying to make, you know, beat feet to get the hell out of the way of the enemy's bullets. But going forward, you're either armored taxi or you're, you know, you're armored slash, you know, armored support with infantry integration. As in, you know, fire control ports, oil and air, everybody contributes. So the weight of the gun doesn't make much difference going in. By the way, retreating? No problem, get people to retreat. People will run like hell, given the opportunity. Okay? But the advance forward is where you're trying to conserve and save energy, which was the whole argument behind the lighter rifle. But that's all done, that's gone. Again, we take all the doodads that are presently on your M4 knockoff, or whatever weapon you have, it's an AR type out there. Go read all the crap that was generated about why we needed to get rid of the M14 just so badly because the M16 was so important. And then weigh in the M14 and its configuration, I mean basic configuration, then go weigh in one of these new ARs with all everything on board, all the bells and whistles. By the way, it wouldn't add that much more weight to that M14. And in other words, it would be parallel in weight to any of the robust ARs you're carrying right now weight wise. And it would perform equally or outperform in several categories, especially with regard to range and penetration and knockdown power. So that's another part of the math formula. Now here's one of the reasons that I bring this up today is because we have to be looking at solutions. We're going to war. Okay, it's not an if, just a when. The Wicked Witch is getting ready to come out of the room to kill you Dorothy. Hi Dorothy, Dorothy's are all you Dorothy's listing out there. Well Toto, Dorothy, the Scarecrow, Tin Man, and the Lion all better get your act together because the witch, the B witch is coming out of the door. Now, we're at the point where we need to start looking and we're actually way beyond the point and we already have been doing this but I'm trying to plan a scene in as many places as I can. How many different ways can you end up with the same result in terms of a weapon system and build it so virtually everything that you do is totally compatible between one part of the system and the other? That's one thing the AR-15 can do. Example, you can do wooden receivers. Absolutely, we've already done it. You can do, we know you can do polymer, plastic, you're already doing it. How many of you have have Polymer AR-15? Jesus, I bought fun crazy, made in the factory, completely finished. Or you did an 80% lower in Polymer. Hell, if you're if you're knowing what you're doing, there's brand new out of the box. I just, you know, I just saw the price $18 for a complete Polymer upper. If I was trying to build an aircraft gun right now to carry in a plane, you know, for like being an air crewman or like a pilot or a co-pilot, I needed a gun. Lightweight, AR-15 Polymer upper, AR-15 Polymer lower, ultralight pencil barrel, plastic wherever you could to lighten everything up just to make it a regular M4 CAR-15 knockoff. Go with a 16-inch barrel, don't go shorter. And congratulations, you got a 5-pound rifle. Ah, but then we still have aluminum in every category you can imagine, either with a fillet or from a block or from a forging. But then there's the next area, which I mentioned earlier here is steel or pot metal. Lower receivers, if you can make a lower receiver out of wood or out of plastic, then trust me, you can make it out of pot metal. Now, what's the lifespan of these systems? Well, we haven't really beaten to death every one of them yet, but they're comparable in service life to the expected service life of a standard M16A1, M16A2, M4 knockoff, or whatever fake number they come up with to try and disguise the fact that it's an M16 type rifle. And the reason I say that, as I've said many times, this is M4, it's totally different from, no it's not. Can I take parts off the M4 and put them on the M16A1 and A2? Yeah. Can I pop the pins and take that upper or lower and integrate it with that A2 long barrel rifle? Yeah. So it should have been an A3, M16A3, but instead, oh no, no, no, no, don't get confused. It's a totally, it's the M4. Oh, it's actually really just a long barrel car, 15, XM177. That's what it is. But if you do that, then you're trying to separate the brain of everybody. Remember when they did this, it was because of the stigma of the Vietnam War still holding on for a while, and they wanted to make everybody believe you're getting a new whiz-bang toy. No significant changing features took place. Cosmetic external but internal. No. No changes. Not even, well maybe one or two. Very, very, very, very minor. But even there, all parts integratable from one rifle to the next. So, what we have here is looking at your area of operation, where you are. Do you have anybody who does wood CNC work? If you're even doing, if you're doing that yourself, you have the ability to make oak, ash, or any other hardwood AR-15 receiver, lower receivers. In fact, you could tool the thing out to match whichever of the standard polymers that we have, and then finish it with the standard jigs for 80% completion, if you wanted to. I mean to save some of your steps. The basics though, especially as you know with CNC mapping out the basic, I just take a blank 80% and that's what would go in the machine. And that's what gets that that's what's going to get scanned and mapped out and congratulations. When you're done, all the rest is done by lower tech that you have off the shelf. Wouldn't it be cool to make a receiver kind of a Steam bung style receiver out of melted down 122 cartridge cases Well, thank you. That's another one. We haven't even talked about is brass lower receivers or bronze Now bronze you don't see so much anymore, but I mean it is out there this bronze out there But yeah, why not brass it'd be a Confederate air 15 kind of like a Confederate Colt or a Confederate Remington Where the frame was made out of brass the bay and the critical components were made out of the steel or upper malleable iron, oops, there's that technology again, that the Confederacy used for making barrels and for making all of the other components that they absolutely had to make out of steel. But one of the neat things I've been thinking about is it would really be cool if you made an AR-15 wooden lower receiver and pick the finest, if you don't want any knots, I mean you can do it, Nurl, but you don't want that. In fact, probably your first best choice would be birch wood, because birch was rated by the Department of Defense as the alternate hard wood, which is why you see all that really fine grained birch coming out as surplus way back in the 80s and 90s. Birch for reserve and for spare wood for the BAR because the BAR was still in service in the 50s. In 1954 is when, no, 1952. 1954 is when they implemented it through army-wide with the arsenals. But Birchwood was originally, it was walnut, but Birchwood became the alternate hardwood authorized for harvesting because they couldn't find a sufficient quantity of grade A walnut for rifle stocks. But what's really cool is birch being a very, you know, much finer grain and you're typically, again, unnerled. It's really fantastic to work for something like these receiver projects. Now the other thing is you could actually create a bit of an extension the upper receiver make it bulkier where the buffer tube screws in number one and Number two, I would extend the sleeve back along the buffer tube made out of the same material and Maybe even one piece with the receiver which would really become nice you had that kind of wood to work with Why would I do that? Well, it creates a cheek rest. I can actually just install the buffer tube and come up with a very simple buttstock, not adjustable. It's going to be a fixed buttstock, only the length of the buffer tube. And we're not talking about a CAR-15 buffer tube. We're talking about an A1A2 buffer tube. Longer. We're also going to incorporate a longer barrel if at all possible. If we do go a shorter barrel, well, we can go a folding stock length. That's not a problem. And even use the folder. That wouldn't be difficult. But it would be kind of nice to have that extended cheek rest and then finish the whole thing just like you were saying, Fluffy. You make it a steam pump kind of AR in that you could go with brass furniture for some of the fittings and you could do a rich, deep, whatever stain you want to use for the wood. But you're talking an AR that could be just as durable as anything else presently produced. So far the guys did the first research of these things in pine pine and They got it to work not only to get it to work. They haven't broken one yet You think about that you make it out of hardwood? Yeah, think about think about how long something like that would last now again And here's the other critical thing to understand. It's a non strategic material Timber is not considered strategic. It certainly is to a degree as far as work is concerned. All resources are critical. But it's not a critical resource, which is why they tried to get wood, to be using wood in place of both polymers back in the day during World War II or to replace, especially critical components might have been made out of sheet metal or whatever, saving the foundry time for more critical components. because foundry time, remember is share time. You make one thing, can't be making, whatever is making one thing can't make something else at the same time. So everything comes down to time and distance, like everything I've said before, time and distance. Now another thing, again this is why magazines, magazines and more magazines, it ain't the razor, it's the blades. And both ammunition and magazines are the critical components. Obviously, Finnish fine components, the more that we can stockpile now, the better off we'll be for the long haul in this war. The Mossad and the Israeli-run US government that is presently waging war against the American people, they already understand the agenda for breakdown. They've been doing it to other people for a long time. The logic is they're going to be doing it to you the same way so firing pin extractors ejectors all small springs everything we've talked about before Right now is out there you need spares in fact you should if you guys you're listening and you have a whole bunch of guys doing air 15 Chances already do because most everybody owns what now Then what you need is start building up an armorers inventory and you need to actually have spare flash hiders, spare extractors, spare ejectors, spare buffer tubes. Anytime something comes up cheap. Right now one of the companies has a bunch of small parts like this, more than one, but there's a bunch of them that they have the odd man out in gas blocks. Now, they're standard dimension, but they're not the in vogue gas blocks, although some have picatinny rails on all all clocks, you know, north, south, east, west. But what's interesting is that they're cheap. We're talking $4.99, $6.99, up to $8. But for the mid price, about $6.40, you're looking at three or four different gas blocks available that are finished, ready to roll. They're all, they're actually finished, you're not in the white. And for replacement or repair or new build, this is where you cherry pick all of this oddment stuff out. Guys, and you end up building another 10, 20, 30, 40 ARs yourself, because you just can't help it. But in the meantime, you have the spare parts so that if something gets buggered up, somebody is going to be the armorer in the unit. Hopefully all of you will cross train. And we have everything necessary to put the gun right back into service. By the way, you don't throw away nor do you destroy the parts that are damaged around the gun. Why? Because you may have to make them work because it might be all you've got. So you don't chuck any parts that are damaged. You may have to tap it back together. You may have to heliarch something. You may have to weld something. You're going to be hammering, tapping and readjusting. You may add material and then mill back down what you need off in order for something to fit. All kinds of dirty tricks in the industry. Right now, not as affordable because the parts are so cheap. But down the road, once you're in conflict, all of that formula is gone. What you got is all you got. If you're lucky, you might find more scavenge down the road, but what you got is all you've got. So prior piper planting prevents piss poor performance. Another thing here real quick is I wanted to talk about this is when we're talking about calibers. The 300 blackout is an excellent route. If somebody is, well you don't seem to talk much about the 300 blackout. I will say what I said two years ago, three years ago, six months ago, etc. Okay, if you have an AR-15, The first barrel, the first weapon you should purchase is a 5.56. But if you did buy a 300 blackout, and I said this how many times in the last year? Fantastic, but just go get a 5.56 upper for it now. Why? Well, because of what you just saw happen with these ammunition shortage. I had people have you seen me 300 blackout? Have you seen me 300 blackout? Now to its credit, to its credit, there are two calibers that have come back in the shallow swimming pool of ammunition right now. What are those two unique calibers? Well one is 6.5 Grendel and that's rather interesting in itself. It is a good performer. I wouldn't want to get shot by any of these things. I don't want to get shot by anything. All of it messes you up. But the 6.5 Grendel is an excellent performer. But if you'll notice 300 blackout in some form is being you know bought back into the inventory faster. So as I said before 7.62x39 uppers would be a good idea. Or if you're going 300 blackout, whichever way you go, you want a golf bag with a number of different uppers. You want 556 flash, you know, 223 wild. You want 762 by 39. You want a 300 blackout. Okay, now 300 blackout has got, it would basically, they did, let me point this out to you. If you look at the dimensions for 300 blackout, Go look at the dimensions for the case. Now I would point out if they're not and if they're not close enough and or if they if it can't be expanded upon I would still come up with another Rifle this a case design that would be very close to 300 blackout, but simply use hacked 556 cases and there's a reason there's gonna be tons of stretched brass out there with automatic fire You're not gonna be able to do anything with it. You can't reload you can't If you've used belt-fed saws or if you've used an M16 or an M14 in full auto or an M60 and you fired extensively with that, you may recall when you pick some of the brass up it's taffy. What do I mean by that? It stretches. As the chamber gets hot, it builds up calories, it preheats the brass. This is another issue you have to watch with belt-fed guns is cook-off. It's not so much that that's going to happen. Remember, the brass is malleable. There's that malleable word again. Because of that, when I said Taffy, it will actually heat up enough that as the extraction process takes place, there is adhesion around the throat and the shoulder of the case. They lock in a little bit, the brass is pulled back, and because it's thermalized from the instantaneous contact with the chamber, which has fired 20, 30, 40, 50, 100, maybe 200 rounds too quickly, what happens is the brass is stretched. It ejects properly, and unfortunately though if you keep, you're overcharging the barrel. This is why you're supposed to have select fire control. That's why you trigger finger control. What will happen is you will eventually end up with either a failed case, or you're going to overheat the bolt face combined with a brass failure or compression as the round goes in. May not have a cook-off, but what will happen, or well, can happen, it's most likely to happen sooner rather than later, the heat transfers to the bolt face, the bolt face starts to peen, it will continue to feed rounds that might even cook off then, but that bolt face on that weapon is dead. That boldface when it cools will be distorted to whatever dimensions it has been changed to Because of overheating this is especially a problem with belt-fed guns like the m60 and any of the saw guns you can cook any of them Okay harder with an m16 But it can be done because a lot of guys will rattle battle to the point where they'll burn their combat load and never even remember firing the second magazine So that brass, if the weapon doesn't burn out and it won't necessarily, but if that weapon just heats up enough, that brass cannot be resized to anything to the original round, the dimensions of the original round. Looks like it, relatively close, and this is one of the things I've mentioned. You have to watch when you get 7.62x51 NATO brass from the Department of Defense, the Donut of Destruction. Well, what are they firing? What have they been firing 7.62 NATO in for how many years now? Well, belt-fed guns. We don't have any shoulder-fed M14s in any quantity. So, unfortunately, a lot of the weapons that you're going to, the brass you're going to be picking up, may already be distorted. One of the first tasks you have when you buy two tons of 7.62x51, guess what? You got to start the brass out by spec length. What do you do with the stuff that's stretched out? Well, you better start figuring out what those other wildcat rounds are. And this is why, as a going full circle, this is why I'm talking about, say, if it isn't close enough that the 556 cut down case can't be used, then what we need is a 30 caliber semi-straight, almost like a, might paper it in slightly, we have to for 30 cal. But much like we have this very shallow step on the shoulder on the 300 blackout, more like a Nagant revolver taper, which would suffice to change the dimensions of the case slightly. But here again, we already have around the 300 blackout. Your standard magazines work with it. Everything on the rifle will function. We are. It's already been proved out by someone. So, I do highly recommend that if you can afford to, get a 300 blackout upper. It's one of those calibers that it looks like it's going to survive. It definitely is back into reasonable production. Remember, it will do, it probably will do everything and more than the 6.8 rounds they're trying to push on, you know, that the government orders take it out of the table. So yes, I do support a couple emails, there's been some conversations this past three or four days. 300 blackout works, buy an upper, make it, understand how it functions, shoot it so you know what it does, keep it in the golf bag. We're gonna go to break, God bless the republic. Death to the new world order. We shall prevail ladies and gentlemen, the Empire is on the run. And we are on the march both day and night. And even though I said 300 Blackout, I will remind you that 760 by 39 is still a hell of a lot cheaper. So that will be one of the other ones you want in the bag. You want a 760 by 39 upper. We're gonna get out of the way for a few minutes. Go run a year in the bathroom. Grab a cup of coffee. Pour a pop and we'll be back with a second hour of the Intel Report. It's Weapons Wednesday. It's part of our Constitution. You know, the right to bear arms is because that's the last form of defense against tyranny, not to hunt. It's to protect yourself from the police. Anybody that wants to disarm me can drop dead. Anybody that wants to make me unarmed and helpless, people that want to literally create the proven places where more innocents are killed called gun-free zones, we're going to beat you. We're going to vote you out of office or suck on my machine gun. I had a dream the other night that Well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat. And speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrant flavored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You vie permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. It's numbers you traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors. So their children will be. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic. Arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land. Preserve our great republic and each God-given right. And pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as Tyrant trampled each god-given right, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave, dill the land of the free? Badgers? Badgers? We don't need no stinking badgers. Oh, you mean badgers? No, you've never probably watched UHF. Anyway, good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. This is the second hour of the afternoon intelligence report. I'm our currently one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories, southwest, east, northeast, and south. Ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on... libertytreeradio.4mg.com, Liberty Tree Radio on satellite, and we're on AM&FM microstations, AM&FM conventional stations, CB base stations, and Ultra Net hallmark, and Golden Spike Technologies east and west of the Mississippi, along with Alaska. It is 607 PM Eastern Standard Time. It is Weapons Wednesday. It is the 13th year of obvious and in your face Fabian Socialist and Soviet Socialist Occupation of America with a K 2021. Old Earth Calendar 2021 Battle for the Republic Dance of Swords. Now real quick, the next thing I wanted to touch on, we talked about receivers, talked about the idea of standardization, but yet not standard. Remember, integration of parts and components, the AR-15 has one thing that really is going to come back to haunt them and kick them in the ass. It is grossly overcomplicated in some ways because of the individual little processes that are required for certain components. Example, retainer channels that have to be drilled into the receiver with little plungers and little springs that are so tiny that they told you they'd give you an article 15 if you disassembled your weapon past the basic maintenance guideline. You remember that? How many of you were in service back in the 60s and 70s? Some of you were, most of you weren't. It was an Article 15 offense. You were going to be paying Uncle Sam if you disassembled your rifle past the basic maintenance steps that were required because taking other parts off of your AR-15 exposed tiny, tiny, tiny little pieces to being lost, ergo then changing the operation and failing to get certain things to function right. It's that simple. All those little funny springs and plungers that Mr. Stoner and the rest of the design crew brought in, which helped to minimize certain actions overall because the size was such, and again the scale of the weapon itself was such, that it blended towards this being a closed or sealed system. Even though it wasn't locked down per se, every component could be taken apart with a conventional armourer's tool, actually with a regular set of screwdrivers. But that wasn't the plan. Between basically popping the two pins, pulling the bolt carrier, knowing how to disassemble the bolt and bolt carrier, along with doing maintenance on the barrel, and to a very limited degree, the gas system, Everything else was no ticky, no washy, no touch, right? Didn't disassemble that lower receiver. No, no, no, no, don't you even think about that one. But in this day and age, we do it at home and we've built up the vast. This is nothing nobody wants to admit. Guys, do you know how many ad hoc arsenal armorers have presently been created in the United States with the AR-15 interest? I want you to think, and again, this number will never be realistically answered. It's like how much ammunition do we sell this year? They're never going to tell you. They're never going to tell you. They know right to the bullet. Don't you think that the government spies, rats and pigs know how much ammunition was sold over the counter? And yet, everybody's told, shut your face and don't say you would. Why is that? I know why, because it totally changes your perspective in understanding the vast level of coercive force that the population wields, because that's what government wants to be the sole manipulator of all police states do, all monarchists do, all kings, all potentates, all schmucks, all turds, all sycophants like that. They always want that. And the fact of the matter is that we already grossly outnumber them and our performance level is far in excess of anything that they could expect from the regular military services. And I'll tell you why, because many of you, are you limited to the 5-5-6 round? Are you limited? And are you restricted because there's some form of magic force field around the activity of working on the weapons? Nope, nothing like that exists, does it? So do you think that you are equal to in many cases or superior to in terms of available resources, accessibility, and variety in terms of component options? The Donut of Destruction kids are screwed because they're stuck with, you know, T-O-N-E, Table of Authorized Equipment, and manpower limitations. We don't have that problem in our sector. How many people do you know right now can break down a complete AR-15 or, well, let's reverse that. Let's do it this way. How many people, including yourself, do you know that have bought every part for an AR-15 and built one and then three and then five and then 20 or helped other people in the process too and each person gains knowledge, everybody has equal working knowledge? You do understand that you build an AR-15 from scratch. Think about what you've done and understand you have working knowledge that they really would like to carve out of your head if they could, but they can't. Think about that. Anyway, real quick before I go, I think it's Tom. Wait just a second, Tom. I'm going to go back to ammunition. Real quick here, guys. 556, 300 blackout, 762x39. For a while there, 545 by 39 was very affordable. It is still out there because it is obviously going to be in the inventory with both the Chinese and with the Russians. Yes, the Chinese have it. Plus, don't forget, India has it. 545 by 39? Where was the first AK-74 plant built after the Russians standardized their production? India. Anybody remember that? Probably not, but I'm jogging your memory. India was the first country to actually have an external contract with the Russians to do a contract AK-74 and they built and have built a large number of them. So there's another country with 545x39. Ever seen the Indian ammunition as surplus or anything? Nope. I wonder why. You're a big country, but they're not as rich as most others. Just think about that. Anyway, before we any further, we got, I think, Tom there. Tom, jump in there, please. Yeah, I want to... Or whoever the... Huh? No, no, go right ahead. We got you. 300 AAC Blackout Wolf, 145 grain, SMJ 500 rounds, $379. That's at amoman.com. There we go. And again, it's back in stock. It's a good round and a lot of people, a lot of you guys, I know you were talking before the big crunch and ammo took place to buy a .300 blackout instead of a .556. Then there was much lamentation. And I pointed out and never ridiculed anybody for buying any gun. You bought a gun? Oh, that's great. What did you get? Oh, that was a stupid man. You will never hear me say that. And in fact, you know, every gun needs a home and many guns need a home with you, all of you. Okay? But again, the issue with the 556 over the 300 blackout is the 300 blackout was very quickly consumed in the cycle that we just saw. Why? Because it's not an orphan round. It's a freestanding new production round. And there's no deep inventory because everybody's been buying what they could already. Go ahead, jump in there, Carl. Yeah, thanks. Speaking of weapons, Wednesday and needing a home, my buddy in Colleen, Texas has four Doberman puppies for sale. They're about, I know they're old in six weeks. They might be eight weeks. Oh, wow. I think he's got two males and two females. They are all black and tan and they are healthy as all get out and dad was about 125 or 30 pounds. Do you have a point of contact in any way they can contact? Is he a breeder or just half a litter? He was a breeder and then no he is not really this. He bred this litter on purpose, but he's retired. He's a veteran. I told him about Ed and Lubbock. I had him on the call here, but he's dropped off since. But before the break, he said he'd deliver one to Ed if he was interested. Because his daughter was out in West Texas by Midland. He's never been to Lubbock. He said he'd love to go out there. 600. Yeah, they're cheap. They're, you know, they're $1,000, $1,500 dogs for sure. Oh, my middle brother used to raise and train Doberman and had any up to 100 at any given time. And some of the dogs that he had that he trained were literally my middle brother is a is an eclectic master. What I mean by that is he would get into something, immerse himself in it, literally get into the trade, know everybody, and then he just, oh, I've got to go do something else. This is the brother that Bob Seger, Bob Seger's brother, the Millers from the Steve Miller Band, they all practiced in my dad's garage. My dad, my brother, my middle brother John, grew up with all of those guys. The third Miller brother you never hear about was up to his ass in trouble every day. But what's cute is he got into that, he was all over the country, he knows everybody. But then he wanted to get into parrots. And he still did music, but he went into parrots. He started importing parrots. He went and then when they cut off importing parrots, Yeah, he said, pith on it, went on to something else. Here's another interesting one. He's a pool queue builder. His queues were selling for $40,000 and $50,000 apiece. This is after he trained dobermans. In between he did the dobermans and he was doing parrots. He trained the parrots, but the dobermans, some of the dogs he had were just so phenomenal. You know, fill up the dobermans, fill up the very smart dogs. They look like the devil dog and they are looking at you and thinking constantly. So yeah, in fact remember guys, they did movies about them, remember? The Doberman Gang. Anybody remember that movie? Oh yeah. And remember everything you saw that the dogs did, the dogs really did. There wasn't any CG back then. When you watch, if you ever do, see if you can dig that movie out. The Doberman Gang. By the way, there were three movies. So they kept coming back with another one. It's kind of like it was Dog Exploitation. You know, they had the Black Exploitation movies like Shaft and all that. This is the Dog Exploitation movies, where the Dobies ruled. So yeah, and again, they're a great dog. They are smart as a whip. They are just like an extension of your arm. And whatever you, well of course it's a matter of discipline. You actually have to work with and train the animal. You don't know how to do it, you need to find someone who can help you because they are phenomenal. They are phenomenal dogs. And you got my number on the board. You can call me if you want to get in contact with him. His name is Bullseye and I'll tell you the back story someday on that. We do have some Amish friends here in Michigan. We just got a German Shepherd from them. They are breeders. They breed German Shepherds and West German Shepherd here in the Thumb. They got some pretty nice Shepherds. They also are breeding Golden Retrievers. Excellent. Well again, that's another one. Any one of all three of those breeds as smart as a whip each one has their unique quirks. The golden, so we were just talking about they have a tendency to become if you want to raise a dog wool factory, get a golden. Yeah, right. But I mean you just like get a brush, save, get a big garbage bag and you can make a golden retriever sweater in no time. But with the German Shepherds, well, they're smart. They're too smart for their own good. But again, I grew up with German Shepherds. So in fact, pretty impressive. Now, the other thing here real quick is if they're Amish, will they ride in a car? If they're Amish German Shepherds... Yeah, they do. Yeah, hold it. German Shepherds. Amish German Shepherds. Those are Amish German Shepherds. They just don't use electricity but they will ride in the car. Excellent. Okay. Well you know another thing before I forget if you're going to go out to Lubbock or if you are going out to the west there is in Lubbock, Texas a wind energy slash a windmill museum that's there. And if you get a chance, you've got to take the time to get over there when they're open. If you're mechanically inclined in any way, shape, or form, you will learn things there that are going to make you go, huh? And some of the stuff that they have physical examples of everything. When I say physical, when you see some of the big monster stuff that was made way before all these new mills, these new windmills, you see? wind generators. Guys, these aren't anything new and they're really by scale some of the stuff that they built back in the day with wood and steel and or tin actually. are pretty stinkin impressive and in fact there be no reason it it's like everything else they wait long enough and they can tell you all workers who told me the idea him man never thought about this before it's like the another man think about it but there are so many variations that they make disappear You know, they just destroy them or you know, it's destroy them by lack of information. In other words, don't historically maintain it. Then you can come back and pull all this garbage out of your arse with a global warming BS and make it sound like you're just saving the world because we never figured out how to do it. And all of it's been done before and I think more efficiently in many ways. So just a heads up. But it's really cool and it's over on the east side of Lubbock. Not too far from where Buddy Holly's buried as a matter of fact. Just kind of cool So anything else you've been there? Thank you for that appreciate it Yeah, again. It's a Lubbock is is a really cool town actually West Texas is pretty cool across the board Not cool. Oh no no no no but if But it is really neat there we go I can use that term really neat place to visit so take the time guys see the country It's ours, at least well for the time being. We're going to have to fight, keep it, and then we can go enjoy it some more. And we rebuild it. That would be great. So we have Thalberman's available. If you go into the Discord, to the board there, you should be able to find the number. And so go to the Discord page on Liberty Tree Radio and hook up that way. That works out just fine. We're almost to the bottom. Tell you what we're going to do here though. We got a few more minutes, but Ed we're gonna do the traditional weapons Wednesday bottom of the hour break We have to maintain tradition here guys. We're doing it for almost 30 years now. We better make we better make sure we do it, right? Hi, well I was gonna anyway just whatever we do weapons Wednesday always remember Donald betcher Okay, just guys just a heads up Keep in mind, you know with a great patriot Don stayed the course and like a lot of our other friends worked right up until almost the very end and That's how you should be in this fight and then you pass on the baton to someone else and you take your rest But for everybody out there just a reminder that you know, we got a lot of great friends that have been with us They're gone now, but there are they're watching us even as we speak so heads up on that one And in addition to that, remember the 50 caliber shooters association, I'm hoping to have Mr. Serbu up here shortly. We'll get back with him, hopefully I get back in touch with him this week, probably, I would say Friday. But I don't know if you guys caught it, Mr. Serbu had a rifle failure. It's not his fault. In fact, it's rather interesting. It's Weapons Wednesday. If any of you saw the videos of the rifle failure that took place, and it was a Serbu rifle, it had nothing to do with the design. It had everything to do with the ammunition. But here's what's interesting. That ammo has been a problem with regard to other build bullets and other build combinations. that particular combination 20 years ago. And I don't think anybody remembered. I've been watching all of this with the conjecture back and forth. And a lot of the slap and other rounds that were out there from that period, there was a bunch of stuff that was cranked out by the Fed. Now the Fed had a couple of specialized elements that were building the final product. But remember that the design came from Aberdeen. the Aberdeen Proving Ground originally. And what they did is they resurrected a series of bullet projects and 50 caliber loads that they had worked on back in the 1964 to 1966 window. One of the things they warned about was improper seating and sizing for the projectile because of the nature of both the charge and the design of the bullet. And with semi or with bolt guns, now back when they were doing this in the 60s, they weren't looking at a semi gun, they were looking more in the Russian anti-tank rifle kind of idea that it was going to be a single shot. Which by the way is the gun that Mr. Serbu just had fail, it wasn't his, again, it wasn't his fault. I've seen all the information on it, so I understand what happened. But... The round itself did exactly what the researchers warned about if somebody didn't know what they were doing or tried to counterfeit the round without proper specifications or without following certain guidelines. And the end result was an overpressure, which is exactly what they experienced back in 1966. Now, when they resurrected these rounds in the 80s, again, they knew the issues and what happened, this actually did happen. A contractor, a kosher guy's name was on the bill, produced the ammunition and, well, actually it was given the bid, and the character went to a subcontractor who then went to another subcontractor. Gee, have we heard this before? And so this second subcontractor that built the ammo was actually who bollocks things up. And the rest is history. They created a series of questionable rounds that had to be tracked down and recalled through the system back in the late 80s. Okay. Well, this is year 2021. So they just had this accident and there's a lot of discussion. And what I did is I actually inserted a few things. I said, guys, go back to 1988, 1989, and then go back to the original project. And I think everybody's kind of peeling back the onion now. and they see what we're talking about or what I've been talking about. And I only happen to notice it because I read weird things, okay? I collect stuff. And years ago, I had a bunch of research papers that came in with a guy at the Eight Mile Armory Gun Show and he had a two-wheel cart with a couple of printer copy boxes. And it was all arsenal reports from Aberdeen Proving Grounds and also from Frankfurt Arsenal, and in addition of that from Bendicks Aerospace and from Rockwell. And lo and behold, there's a whole section in there, which by the way I did share, we shared with a bunch of the 50 caliber people years ago, which is all of these research papers that were done on the subject of specialized ammunition. One of the things that everybody was interested in at the time were arcane or again conical stacked munitions. Three round projectile and five round projectile casement loads that literally were like stacked street cones like you know safety cones, but you know see on the road. But what was interesting about the design is that they were originally just supposed to be used with a squeeze bore barrel. So when you pull the trigger, what happened is there was a capping charge between each of the conical. And as it went down, it was like every time you pull the trigger, it was either a three or a five round burst with one shell. The other advantage of this is that it was quite similar in response to a discarding sable round in that the pressure was relatively high but still within reasonable cup pressure. But it produced three or five rounds traveling at over 3890 feet per second in fact they tested it with little slightly longer barrels and they found that they could push close to 4200 route to 4200 feet per second guys you're pressing towards 5,000 you're talking about You're talking about no time to flight You pull the trigger and the three rounds good down go down range. Yeah, it takes longer for me to describe it than for all to happen Almost a mile in a second. Yeah, this means no lead time. It's like a laser gun. When you're talking that kind of velocities and they don't want to discuss it, they want you to know about this, and I've mentioned this many times, with SABO you can do this. But they did this with squeezebore, which in reality I think they stole this from the Germans because the Germans were the ones who were pushing squeezebore weapons in World War II. And before World War II, they kind of dropped it. There were several guns they had in 1937-38. And they were phenomenal in performance, but they required tungsten carbide, they required tungsten, and two or three other trace metals that during wartime production are prioritized for tooling. And so the tubes were very quickly extracted from the guns, and they chambered them for something else. But they proved that it worked. The velocities and the energy applied, they were like laser guns. And literally, I mean, not only did they have short time to flight, but they had so much energy that they just punched through iron, you know, through iron. They punched through steel like butter. Homogeneous armor plate didn't slow them down. But it was expensive. Now, personally, I think the program probably, it would have been a good idea to figure out as they would eventually at wartime, what other less strategic materials might be substituted to get reasonable performance comparable to what they originally intended. And I'm sure they could have done it, but they just felt they weren't going to expend the resources. The other thing about tapered or compressed barrels is that it does create a lot more work to build them. A straight tube barrel is a very, very straightforward business, but creating a taper bore, compressing the rounds. So you think about this, you see, you start with a street cone. Looks like a street cone, like you have sitting on the street with a big flat base. Just think of it without the flat base, more like a bugle, like remember bugle chips. Anyway, when it goes down the tube, the outer base connects with the rifling, and then, because it's a hollow center, it is squeezed down to a smaller projectile dimension until literally it's coming out the end of the tube at 30 caliber. It starts out at 50 caliber, tapered, but then it ends up leaving at 30 caliber with all of that energy behind it. And interestingly enough, they got this to work phenomenally well for a short period of time. And I don't, I don't know, well, I know what happened. They change in policies. There were a number of the prototype rounds because they built hundreds of thousands, if not a million of them. This program was completely developed and there are cartridge collectors right here in Michigan that have multiple examples of these 50 caliber rounds. So, not only do we know it works, but we know all the data on it, but we know we have physical examples of the rounds and we know that it functions flawlessly. It just, again, it was a matter of do we want to spend the money. We know we proved we could do it, but are we going to continue with the program and spend the money? They decided not to. Or somebody stole it. It's likely it's not. But it proves it can be done. Now discarding SABL will do the same thing. And in fact, again, you're pressing towards 5,000 feet per second. However, with discarding SABL you have to use a solid projectile. And again, my recommendation years ago is experiment with titanium. There's no thermal charge. There's nothing you can do with air that would degrade the projectile in flight. If it was lead, it'd melt before it ever got anywhere near the target. If it was copper jacket with a lead core, it would become liquid malleable, it would become liquid in flight and would degrade very quickly at range. It has to be a solid projectile of, it could be tungsten, it could be steel, higher grades of steel. And even that would supercharge at 5,000 feet per second. The ongoing leading edge would actually become... How is viscous would be the way to describe it. It would be sloppy. However, that's not a bad thing because when you're trying to penetrate armor, this is something that they actually don't talk about also. Remember that if it's malleable, if it's molted to a degree, the outer surface is... Viscous what happens is as it slaps against the steel and starts to bore in that material that outer material that softened becomes a lubricant What do you do when you want to drill a hole in steel you apply oil to create a? lubricant to irrigate and To allow for you know more efficient passage of the metal of the drill bit through the metal right? Well, it's basically what happens when you use these other materials Uh, but stainless would be another one that would work really well. Anyway, I heard a voice call or jump in there, please. This time again, I know this doesn't have anything to do with weapons, but did you hear about Dusty Hilson's easy top time? No, no, thank you. Uh, again today, uh, uh, today, I don't know when he died, but he was 72 years old. Huh. Well, they're all getting up there in years. I mean the whole band I mean, come on. Remember when they actually had dark hair in the 80s they had gray. I know. Well, yeah, I saw that and I go I I saw that and I had to pass it along. They uh, yeah that he died. Okay, here's the other problem. The band ain't that big. I know. You know when the bank? Yeah, I was gonna say that one third of the band just died of us. The gray hair is a copper deficiency. So he probably died of an aneurysm or you know Probably aneurysm. Yeah, that's copy. Well and again in the veins and arteries so Yep So far this is wild no cause of death is given. No, they'll probably blame it on Covid Right. Well, no the first best choice. He injured his hip. So my might have been a blood clot or something? Blood clot? Yeah. Blood clot? He probably got vaccinated. Yep, that didn't help. And blood clots are an omega-3 deficiency. No, I said you might have died of a blood clot because you had a hip injury. Right, that's what you're saying. But it's still the cascading issue. What causes the problem with the blood clot? Again, the deficiency can be identified and therefore we can try to compensate for that so that we don't die of that problem. We are going to die of something. We just prefer it be old, old, old age. Yeah, really old age. Yeah, we want to spite the government. Everybody listening out there, I'm not trying to find a place to die. I plan on killing my enemy and then having a little mountain of cherry pits, you know, like Tolkien said, you know, that's like, you know, a mountain of skulls, the enemy skull. That's what I should be collecting if you guys you need to read JRR Tolkien don't watch the movie It was a World War one combat veteran, okay from the dark side of the moon they there's a there's a a historical dark humor attached to his writings because of personal experience and they try to psycho-analyzing all the other bullshit. What it comes down to is, he survived a really bad experience and he actually had a good perspective on it, which is what you should all do. Don't let the panty-waist drag you down. That's my biggest problem in most of the situations. Guess what? When we get done with this, I'm gonna be proud of whatever the hell I do. I'm already proud of what I've done. In fact, I hope to do more. The idea is, we gotta kill the bastard. So, kill him well. That's how it should be. And we gotta survive longer. We gotta be able to tell the tale longer too. Try to live to be a hundred. They hate it when you do that. Oh shit, we can go way longer than a hundred. That's half your age. Well I know, but high mileage is the problem with most people. Remember, even if you were doing it right, you've already done a lot of it wrong. Yep. I'll tell you what, if you get the raw materials that the body needs to do what it's supposed to do, all bets are off. There is a point of no return, but we don't know where it is. My mentor's 82 years old, and he's like a 50-year-old because he's been taking those raw materials for 70 years. Yep. He's been doing it. If you do it from the get-go, especially, then you're that much farther ahead. Right. But even if you can, you can fix stupid. You can repair the body, you can repair itself. But anyway, did you see the Cass River Bigfoot sighting video 4.7 seconds? No. But did somebody capture him and use barbecue sauce? No, actually it's a video of a female Bigfoot carrying a baby through the Calf River in the thumb and it looks pretty convincing. I'll tell you what. Go to YouTube, look up Michigan Calf River Bigfoot sighting. It's a 4.7 second video. It's pretty convincing. Check it out. Very good. When did it happen? It just popped up within the last few days. Oh, okay. Very good. We're getting a lot of other background noise. I'm hearing music. Oh, there we go. Okay, I'll take... Sorry. There we go. That's okay. Whatever it was, it was sounding like I was in a Far Eastern or Middle Eastern bazaar. I was, you know, picturing Cat Stevens walking down the, you know, down the street with little, you know, like... or a Saudi Arabian girl probably with a veil, maybe a big black robe on, you know, and cobras and camels, you know, this is what it sounded like. Anyway, I tell you what, because Ed might be there, but he might have stepped away for a minute. Our bottom of the hour break is going to be in late, but our traditional weapons Wednesday, bottom of the hour break, as soon as Ed can plug it in. If you would, do so because it's time. So I know I've talked past the bottom of the hour break, but hey, we own the network. We can do this. So for everybody, again, I also want to say thank you. I appreciate the donations that have come in. And we have one box that went out because it was a double tap. One person ordered two of the same items. And I think what happened is everybody was looking at the list. And so that one's out today with the red, blue, green. In addition to that, we have another monocular and red, blue, green that just went out. And for our unit up in Onondaga, We have five of the thermal units. That's something totally different But there are five of the thermal units boxed and they're on their way from my courier We're not going to ship those they cost too much so the five thermal units are on the way and For all the rest of you guys pay attention to watch your mailboxes the Considering what those five thermal units cost For the county that's picking them up in fact what happened the car dealership sponsored One of the counties they are going to be ongoing or I think it's every week they're buying five of the four thermal units for that militia and so as long as they can continue to do that they got a little competition going with sales and The boss who owns the car dealership? However, they've got it worked out. They are all pitching in and More they do the more obviously he'll donate. It's I think it's a dollar-for-dollar thing and they're all supporting the county militias that are organizing up there. I just hooked them up with the uniforms and equipment. We found another wholesaler that it looks like they're very shallow in inventory, but they do have some materials, so they're also going to be doing the thousand count, top and bottom on the uniforms. And guys, that's the kind of work that everybody needs to be finishing up now. Remember, the Wicked Witch is coming out of the room. She's coming after you Dorothy and she's coming after Toto too and some she's a scarecrow and yah the lion and Also, yeah. Yeah, she's thinking she's gonna take the ruby red slippers We're gonna take that stick and shove it up to where the Sun doesn't shine Plus we got a whole bunch of buckets of water ready to go and She'll wish to God she never came out that door Okay, everybody understand that that's the attitude you better have So the idiot sticks in their stupidity arrogance, whatever. I don't care. It doesn't make any difference. I could care less about them But as far as what we're gonna have to do to them y'all better be squared away and ready to do it, right? On that note I had a bunch of questions There's a handgun a couple of handguns that are posted over at CD and N Sports now for the longest time they had those Walters available and I think they still do But there is a nice little torus compact. It's not a tiny compact. It's the standard concealed carry, which work fine as personal service pistols in the field. There's not a problem with that. In fact, they're out of the way. The toruses, there's, I want to say the, what is it, 1024? Hold on, let me see that. I'll have to double check, but it's over, it's in the top of the scroll. The big thing with that has been magazines, however, they are available, but remember, if you're going to buy the weapon, you buy at least three more magazines now, if at all possible. If they're really pricey, and these aren't, they're not outrageous, they're typical, I think they're a little less than the average price for a new gun, new magazine system. at least get two. At least get two more beyond whatever it is because remember it is a foreign manufacturer. Taurus is pretty reliable. They make good guns. I would have a problem carrying a Taurus no matter what it is. But because of the situation you're in right now, You need more than one magazine and then throwing the gun in harsh language, which by the way I would never recommend throwing the gun anyway, but harsh language could be used while you're waiting to try and beat them to death if you're fortunate enough to get with an arm's length before your enemy decides to shoot you with the ammunition they have left and working magazines. So let's avoid that particular conflict by buying more mags. One of the nice things that I like about Taurus, I don't know if you guys have seen any of the new grip systems that they came up with, but they've got an interesting, it's like, what would you call it, a squishy pock mire, okay? What they've done is they've created these raised ribs that are about, I would say, what, a sixteenth of an inch? They're all about the same distance apart, but what happens when you grip the weapon is that it kind of conforms to the hand and creates a little more of a cushion effect with regard to settling the gun into sight alignment. And when you pull the trigger, needless to say, it actually extends. It's hard to describe this, except it pillows the recoil. little bit. And again everything that helps to stretch out the recoil means that the round is the your site will stay aligned on the target, your recovery time is reduced, and rapid fire of course is the logical end result. So they're not a bad grip system. I've seen this on two of the different torus pistols already. This particular one looks like it has the torus signature grips that are now Apparently everybody does like them, or at least a good portion of people do. Some people have been stripping them off and putting the standard flat plate type grip, or a very narrow grip just to make them thinner for concealed carry. Otherwise, again, if you can get firing pin extractor and injector, I'd recommend it. They are a new gun. and the price is reasonable. Okay, so again that's over it. CDNN, I said, okay, CDNN Sports. CDNN Sports. Their specialty is pistol magazines. If you remember shotgun news, four, six, or eight pages of advertisement just for magazines with CDNN. And that's their niche. They do have guns, they do have a lot of other stuff, but magazines is their niche. It has been for decades, okay. Now on that note, there are a couple other deals over there. You might want to check out their spare parts inventory. They do have a bunch of AR stuff that's in there right now. I mentioned earlier, each of the companies out there, for whatever reason, not in vogue, gas blocks, flash hiders and charging handles. There have been some odds and ends there that were literally half price or a quarter of the price that they've been, but only because they're ommett now. And to be quite honest, I could build an ommett rifle and probably cut the price down to half of what it would normally be. What I've been looking for is a cheap barrel. 16 inch, I don't care what it is, cheapest barrel. I know Bear Creek has some, but Remember, their prices went up the same time everybody else. And so the barrel price is pretty much stuck where it is on an AR-15. But everything else, if you cherry pick here and there, you can knock the price down pretty reasonable. It won't be necessarily the prettiest state-of-the-art gun, but it'll be relatively pretty. And like last year's state-of-the-art gun, which I think still shoots just as well as this year's state-of-the-art gun, if you get my drift. In other words, nope, it's not. The parts aren't from the latest magazine article on the whizbangs you need for your AR-15. They're last year's items, or the year before. Oh my god, they've gone stale. No, they haven't. God. Anyway, another thing real quick here, I mentioned the M14s earlier on. There's a couple of new magazine companies. Well, they're really not super new but they were building other mag air air 15 and air 10 mags They are now building m14 mags brand new to mil spec You might want to keep an eye out for them prices up around $20 a magazine which is typical for gov spec mags and apparently they're going to continue to increase production. They have a market separate from the civilian market. So I don't know if they got the government contract for the M1A M14 M21 or whatever the number nomenclature is now, knockoff in a sniper rifle and or as a brigade rifle, but they are definitely cranking out for a foreign and government contract of some type. Now CDNN may have them you guys go through the m14 mags that they have there and I believe that Apex might have gotten some of these so you might want to go check apex gun parts dot-com Apex gun parts dot-com and these are again a contract 20 round standard slab magazine m1a park rise phosphate finish really nice-looking There's two or three other companies that are using these mags with their new precision rifles. You know, they're upper end M1A slash M14s that are doing around 3,200 a unit. So the mags are reasonably priced when you consider what kind of gun they're typically putting them on. And another issue there too is Somebody was asking about the older aftermarket modified 10 round that have a number of different features on them. Most of the pro mags, at least the ones that were made during the ban period, the work that they did to bollocks up the internals, and again I know pro mags aren't the fanciest mag, but any magazine if we can improve it or bring it back up to original spec that'd be great. The problem is that many of the mags that they made once they got past their final overrun that they did, everybody tried to crank out as many mag hulls as possible because they were given a pass on using those and just doing a slight modification to restrict them depending on what the restriction was for the particular part of the country. Unfortunately, after that, many of the mags are virtually there's material missing and they replace steel with polymer for spacers and filler and such. So there's not a whole lot you can really do to take and extend externally, or forgive me, internally, those magazines. It's a lot of work that isn't worth the time. There's still going to be 10 round mags, kind of got to live with that. Now, again, there's two different ways that those went. They either built them as 10 round mags, or they're shorter, chubbier, stubbier, easier to spot. But these are, and again, one of you sent me a picture. I know which one of these were. I guess that's why I mentioned ProMag. ProMag did these, well, the way that Ruger did some of theirs, where they went with a plastic filler to be able to stack up the spring. which was smaller. And there's no you can't just pull the parts out, insert the other they thought it through and they bollocks them up. Personally what I do is leave them as 10 rounders. Now I like short 10 rounders and I like short 5 rounders for the AK. Most people are like what? Well if I want to get down flat and low and I don't want to have to prop my elbows up and I'm trying to get a long shot in, 5 Round Magazine works just fine for marksmanship purposes. Now, the problem with these 10 rounders is that there are still 20 round length magazines. And again, if you run into them, you know what I'm talking about. Everybody's tried every way you could imagine Widget to figure out how to make it work. The problem is that there's too much material missing on the inside. the way that they cut panels out and replace them. And so what happens is by the time you're done, the sheet metalwork you'd have to do and the time you're consuming, maybe in wartime it'd be worth it, but right now it's not. So instead I just keep this 10 rounders. Here's an idea like I've said many times, use them for training and that way you're not wearing out your $30 and $20 magazines. It's that simple. In other words, you're going to train with it, right? You want to go to the range, right? Well, use up those 10 round mags, burn those up, wear them out, use them the way they were intended, and just stay focused on, again, marksmanship. You don't really want volume fire, and every time you pull the trigger, it's almost a dollar, dollar, $2, $3, ooh, my wallet's getting thinner. $1,000, $2,000, $3,000, oh God. Then we don't need that. So again, This is true also I mentioned the Rugers. There were Rugers, Ruger mags. We have the same problem. You just stuck with them being 10 rounders. I live with it. All mags are good mags. Okay, in other words, if you already paid for it, you already got it. Maybe they came with a gun. I know a couple guys bought stuff at estate sales here about what, three weeks ago. And half the mags were during the ban, slash the restriction. And because of that, they're the later model made specifically for the band. They can't be fixed. They can't be changed. There's nothing you can do. Don't worry about it. Again, use them for training. Now here's an idea on that. You can also, if you're running a shooter and you're trying to teach them about immediate action, What you can do is load up rather than do a distress mag where you have a round that kind of buggers up the sequence, just keep passing them off. The mags drop a 10-rounder in there. Instead of a malfunctioning round, it really is just a neutral dog round that doesn't discharge or do anything. Usually with a rubber baby buggy bumper where the primer is, it's kind of like a snap cap. What you can do is just load a 10 round mag, 10 rounds. And you know that they're expecting either a 15, a 16, or maybe even a 20, depending on what you've been shooting. They're expecting to have any rounds. They're going to get an automatic failure to operate because it's going to lock back. The mag is going to be empty. It's premature, but it still forces the operator to do an immediate action drill to change out mags and introduce a new one, which is cool. So there's a number of ways you can always take any of these pieces you've got and integrate them into the training cycle. At the very least, just use them the way they were intended and just explain to everybody, well, we're using the 10 round mags because I don't want to eat up the hours that I've got waiting on the more sophisticated magazines we do have. By the way, if you're training students, less ammunition in the magazine is a good thing anyway. Just as a precaution, right? Very simple and easy to understand. Now we're almost to the top and again that was CD and then sports. They have a Taurus that's well under $300. It actually is a pretty decent little weapon. Also you're going to be amazed if you do a little, if anything you can find one at a local gun shop maybe to compare notes. Relatively narrow. Again also intended to be a concealed slash you know a regular you know back a personal carry gun, but for a combat tactical weapon it worked just fine, seriously. Especially if you're limited resources, you're looking for a weapon that's a little less expensive. Everybody out there, if there's anything else, you can see the floats you're building in the process, buy it because guns are for buying, not for selling. Always remember that. That's an old finished proverb from the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. God bless our Republic. It's part of our Constitution. You know the right to bear arms is because that's the last form of defense against tyranny, not the hunt. protect yourself and the police. Anybody that wants to disarm me can drop dead. Anybody that wants to make me unarmed and helpless. People that want to literally create the proven places where more innocents are killed called gun-free zones. We're going to beat you. We're going to put you out of office or suck on my machine. No music. This is Craig. He's listening to forbid knowledge. We're going to be listening to another program. I think Ed was just signing it up. It is the probably the twenty seventh twenty eight what is it today July last weekend and last Wednesday of July know that I'm doing a show this time without the aid of a computer all I have is my phone I haven't I had took my computer into a shop today wouldn't boot up they've been into a what they call a boot read I see what they call it where it keeps trying to boot up. A boot recirculation where it just keeps trying to boot up. Doesn't actually start up completely. I did a lot of study today on YouTube, trying to, there's a lot of good videos on YouTube if you have a computer problem. It's a laptop in my case, in my van. And there's a lot of good videos on YouTube where you can take care of problems where your computer won't shut on or if it's a completely black screen. There's videos for just about everything on there that you may or may not help you. Well, it did help me in the end because in the end, after I went through all the little tests that I could do, getting into things like changing the U.F., I'm sorry, the UEFI, meaning Legacy or CSM, trying to change the booting process. All the other things I went through to pulling the battery, pulling the hard drive, removing the second battery, unplugging the second battery, second internal battery. All the things I did to try to fix it in the end that basically what was found is either I need a new hard drive, which I couldn't really test for other than just putting a new hard drive, or reloading the operating system, which in my case is a Linux. And getting a computer shop, when you say Linux and sometimes the computer shops go, oh, well, maybe we don't want to do anything with that. Well, that's one of the disadvantages of Linux, I guess. A lot of support that people don't want to support you. And I wouldn't be able to figure out in time, I just got to get it done. So it's going to be three to five days without a computer, which is going to suck. By the way, if you play as an order the last couple of days, and then I don't know your address, you might want to email me at forbiddenknowledge.yahoo.com. I know I have a couple of orders to fill. I'm going to have to figure out a way to contact these people because I can't look it up on my computer. Can't do much of anything without the computer. But what we're living without is living without computer nowadays, and at least in my life, has become an essential thing to remain in business and in the standard American lifestyle that we're living now. The phone or the computer have become kind of critical in my life anyway. But they haven't been yours, well, that's good for you because we probably should stay away from one sort of anti-computer on a lot of things that I have been for a long time. I think our society should be getting away from depending on his computer so much. Look what's happened with meat production and fuel supplies on the East Coast and so many other things in our life that get scammed and packed. Anyway, so anyway, I'm on my computer. I do have some things I want to talk about. Let's see, my next show, listen, because of the Coronavirus, and I may be talking about the Coronavirus tonight, because of the recent increases of the Delta variant, the Coronavirus, at least. The masses are pressed about it anyway. Well, they're not as increased or not. I don't know for sure. My next show, if something happens, is going to be Dragon Con, which is a month from now. Last weekend of August, going into the first week of September. So it's about four weeks from now. I close my window because somebody decided to run a string trimmer. At the time I started my show here. And it's hot here. So anyway, yeah, that show, unless it gets canceled, got canceled last year. And it's a once a year show. It's a big science fiction show, Dragon Kind, Atlanta, Georgia. Go to forbidknowledge.info if you want to see information about that show. Just keep an eye on it because it might be canceled anytime. Who knows? With this recent increase in COVID activity, maybe the more states will lock down again and maybe more governors will lock down their state and all shows might get canceled again. So that's uncertain at this point. What's going to happen with that show? The next show after that, if you've gone to Forbid Knowledge on info, you will find this the Non Creek Gun Range, the Machine Gun Shoot and Military Gun Show. The final nation's largest, I'm reading exactly from the paper they sent me in the mail here just the other day. The final nation's largest Machine Gun Shoot and Military Gun Show, Non Creek Gun Range, October 8th, 9th of 2021. The last one. And again, that could change too because of maybe the governor of The Commonwealth of Kentucky decides to lock down there too. So that's something you'll have to watch. But if you plan on doing it, the last one, maybe we've already had the last one. But right now the plan is to have the last one October 8th and 9th of 2021. And I'm sure it'll be a big show. Whether or not they'll have enough ammunition to do all things they want to do, or it'll be cheap enough for anybody to afford, that could be another question. But you probably want to, if you've never been to the non-creek machine gun shoot, this probably will be your last chance. And I said probably not only because the state could get locked down, but also because somebody possibly might buy out the show and maybe it will continue. Don't know, but if you've never been to it, you need to go at least once in your life and this may be your last time. So anyway, that's all I'm forgetting, I'll send it to the opening window back up. We have a string trimmer has moved away a little bit. Okay, I want to talk about, and it's going to be mostly off memory because I don't really, I can access certain pages on my phone, but boy it's really difficult while I'm talking on the phone at the same time. Normally I'd have a computer screen in front of me where I can do that. They will also lock off at times, but anyway, COVID, a lot of activity in COVID. Now I'm going to talk about one locally first, local story. I'm in Michigan right now. That's where I'm building. And there was this, and I didn't know about this festival until a couple of Saturdays ago. There's a music festival, a country music festival, a three-day country music festival in Michigan called Faster Horses. It's been going on a number of years. I don't know how many years. I think it looks like it's been about five years, something like that. Well, anyway, they held it this year. It was in the middle of July. And they, not only was there four deaths at the show, which were unrelated to COVID, what am I talking about? Three of those were actually people, and this is a... a good lesson for anybody, I suppose, if you're gonna use a generator. Three people got carbon oxide poisoning and died from having a generator apparently too close to their camper that they were camping in. Three days show a lot of campers. So that's a good lesson. You'd be running a generator and you think you're gonna do it in your garage or something to try to muffle the noise because of... Things going bad, you know, I might know you have a generator something you might want to think twice about that There's in a garage you could also be carbon monoxide poisoning in your house Depending how your situation is set up But anyway, be careful with that. Everybody knows that that's a real and present danger running gasoline powered appliances for any diesel as well In any case, and then one other person died, but that's unrelated. What was announced a couple weeks after, and there's a mower again. Why realize that's a mower when you're doing something? What happened was there was an announcement on the radio a few days ago urging anybody who went to the Faster Horses show in the middle of July to get tested for the Coronavirus because 23 confirmed cases of people who attended that concert has come down with positive cases of the Coronavirus. So here's the wordage they use. Pay close attention to the way I'm going to phrase this now because I'm using the wordage they use. 23 people have come down with the Coronavirus due to Coronavirus, Coronavirus, kind of Corona 19. I saw what I called the Coronavirus. And we urge... Everyone who attended, we urge everyone non-vaccinated or unvaccinated that attended to get tested immediately for COVID-19. That's the way they phrase it. We urge all the unvaccinated to get tested for COVID-19 that attended that concert. But yet as a sidebar, they kind of mentioned that six of those 23 people were fully vaccinated. But no, no, no, we don't let you people getting tested because that was you are there's fewer statistics To show that in this case almost to the third of the people who came down with it at the concert We're fully vaccinated. But no, no, no only you people that are unvaccinated need to go get tested Because you're protected don't you know because you got the vaccine I Thought that was very telling and almost like a slip-up to actually put that on the air. It was on NPR national propaganda radio So yeah, but if you go on the mainstream media and you're looking and looking and looking, you're going to see they're claiming about 94% of the people that have been vaccinated are protected, or I'm sorry, more precisely, about 94% of the people that are presently hospitalized and have come down with it are unvaccinated. That's the claim. Yet six people came down out of 23. Six people out of 23 came down with it attending this concert. They were fully vaccinated. Okay, go figure. And more news in the Coronavirus. I'm going off the top. I had all this stuff. I'm hoping I'm going to quote these numbers correctly. New York, and most of you probably heard about this because it's on the mainstream news, that the pushback is getting New York, California. I'll get to that in a second because you probably already know where I'm going with that. I was in Walmart today, and I noticed a sign up front when you walk in. Coronavirus testing, please walk in. No appointments needed. And now we're starting to beg people, and a lot of you have also heard all the talk about lotteries and giveaways and things for people, to urge them to come and get the coronavirus. I'm sorry, to get the vaccine for the coronavirus. Well, the begging is beginning to subside now because now they're starting to make demands, such as New York City and the state of California, which both have announced here in the last four days that they're going to require municipal workers That's people that work for the New York City and people who work are municipal workers for the state of California. They're going to be required to get the coronavirus vaccine to keep their job or be tested weekly and wear a mask. This is the new mandate from New York City and California. Municipal workers, so in other words, if you work for the city or you work for the state of California, you will be required to get the vaccine if you want to keep your job. Now this comes to mind something that happened to me that really happened to me something I learned about and I didn't really care I'm not getting the vaccine. That's my own personal decision. You have your own personal decision. I only don't care what you decide for me It's because I was vaccine damaged once in the past. I don't want to get that vaccine damaged anymore. So I'm not gonna do it That's my that's my reasoning. That's my main reason. So that's just what this just me you weren't vaccine damage before maybe so you don't have that reason you might have some other reason why you do get it or you don't get it That's up to you. I don't care But I was at a health meeting, and these types of health meetings, they're what you might call alternative health. And there's a lot of conspiracy theories flying and all that sort of thing. And that's what kind of happens when you attend some of these meetings, such as the alternative health or some of the law meetings, lawmen who study law. And you'll get the conspiracy theory related type of message in the meeting as well. Okay, so somebody brought forth at this meeting, I won't tell where it was, I'm not going to mention any names, that there was a doctor or doctors, I don't know if it's more than one, that you could go to get the vaccine. And because they'll issue you a card, an official card that shows you got the vaccine. But the doctor kind of misses your arm and it sort of ends up squirted in the wastebasket. But you have the official card that says you got the the corny virus vaccine So this is the kind of thing that some people are apparently resorting to I didn't care about that either I'm not gonna go to a doctor that's gonna do that doctor is putting his license in jeopardy obviously he does that and The takeaway basically was well you just kind of give him a donation of $50 and he'll just kind of miss your arm and Kind of gets a squirt it squirt into because squirts into the waste basket because all these doses are registered They've got a serial number based on they're all registered and they fill out the serial number and everything with the card in your name And so so anyway, that's one that's one version of what people apparently are resorting to This at least this particular meeting and this may be happening all over the country. I don't know I suppose you could probably go on the dark web and kind of find out information like that. I'm not going to relay information to you. I did not get the information they give out this meeting. I did not take the information. So don't ask me for where this can be done for you. You will have to do the research yourself if it can be done. And of course, keep an eye out for all the Hitler youth out there who might be turning people in for the reward credits that might be offered for exposing such doctors or people who are maybe Not quite doing the right thing that the government wants you to do just saying I don't know But don't ask me for the information. I don't have it You'll find that information out yourself. You're but some people are apparently wanting wanting wanting to resort to that Rather than just face up to them and say no, I'm not getting the vaccine Some people may be pretending to get the vaccine again. I'm not Promoting this. I'm just telling you some things that are apparently going on that I learned about Anybody has information about that you want to call and talk about that's fine you can call it That's just leaving the names of any doctors out of it and leave it kind of generic and that's fine We'll talk we can talk about something like that. This may or may not be happening folks, but I've heard about it So there's because of municipal seats because the push is starting They first they the first people to people are anxious to get it right the first people won't go get it got to get I got me so scared I need to get I don't want to die. I don't want to die And then the people that, okay, we're opening up to the next group of people, okay, first responders and this sort of thing and essential workers and the, okay, you can get it now. And then start opening up to 60 years old and older and then eventually everybody. And now, nobody wants it anymore. They're giving away free and walk in without an appointment. So now there's nobody else that wants it virtually. So I got to scare you some more or else force you to take it. So they can't really force the private sector to do that yet. And so the private sector have already started doing that as well. And so if you want to work for that private sector employer, maybe they're a hospital or something of that nature, and maybe they're requiring it, and maybe they don't have any exemptions, maybe they don't even have a religious exemption, I don't know, it's tied up to you whether or not you're going to get the vaccine to keep your job. See, so that's the push. See, because they got you by the ball, just like the IRS, I mean, they'll do anything the IRS tells you to. Your employer will do anything the IRS tells you to. Tells them to and in the end you're gonna get either the gonna get shot in the arm or you get shot in the head And that's the bottom line You get shot in the arm and shot in the head your choice Because it comes the push comes to shove and it's becoming a force issue That's what it could be And that's just really willing to stand up to have two of them and die for what you believe in and that's the whole That's a whole nother issue obviously and I don't mean die believe what you believe in because you might get the corny virus I mean, I what you believe in because they're busting down your door trying to force a vaccination on you. That's up to you. So it's, it's coming down. And I saw this and I mentioned this on the air a long time. I probably mentioned about a year ago that when the fourth wave comes, which looks like it's coming now, the fourth wave after about, cause this won't be over for about two years. I told people this two years ago, almost two years ago, year and a half ago. that this thing's going to last about two years. And the fourth and final wave will be the one that gets the government to start demonizing the American people who decided to not get vaccinated. You are the reason, if you're not vaccinated, you listen to my voice, you are the reason, don't you know, that we have this fourth surge. That's what they're going to convince everybody of. Even though the same thing had happened 100 years ago, before there was any such thing as a vaccine, no money with how a vaccine was 100 years ago. So, but no, you're the reason this fourth wave is happening, don't you know? Because it's them damn unvaccinated people. So we need to go after these unvaccinated people and force the issue a little bit. Again, shot in your arm or shot in the head. Your choice. Here come some more leaf blowers. Come and believe us. So anybody want to call about this? Okay, let's see, what else? Some of the things that I learned related to this, and I had a whole bunch of things that I heard in the news here last week that were really interesting. You see, I saw this coming, and I think a lot of you probably saw this coming. Now we're getting to the forest issue. And Biden mumbled something at a press conference. So, well, yeah, that's probably coming. And he was referring to how some states have now like New York, and well, New York City. And the state of California have now mandated this mandatory vaccine for municipal workers. And the hint was from Biden that yes, that could be what the federal government does too for federal workers. If you're a federal worker, I mean, basically they own you. If they tell you you have to do it, you have to do it if you want to keep your job. If you don't want to keep your job, if you don't care anymore, you'll only retire or resign or whatever, and then you're on your own until they force everybody to take it. And they're going to try to force you anyway. Guess I'm not start closing some windows again. Too hot to be closing windows. Anybody? I'm gonna call in with this another story. I know this is just stuff I heard on the mainstream essentially. Oh, I know another story that related to it. And I had to check this out because I couldn't really believe it. And I did some limited checking so you might want to check this out yourself. Let's see if I can do this with my phone without hanging up on everybody. Let's see here. I need to go here. Then I need to go. This is good radio. Here it is. There was a tweet going around and maybe some of you heard it or seen it rather. Here's the tweet that I saw. CDC has just announced they will revoke the emergency use authorization of the RT-PCR tests first introduced in 2 of 20 almost year and a half ago. Continuing. CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplexed method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses. And this was dated July 24th of this year. Did you catch what I said? Let me read that again. It's not very long. Quote. CDC has just announced they will revoke the emergency use authorization of the RT-PCR test first introduced in 220 February of last year. CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplex method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses. Now, SARS-CoV-2 is the Corona 19 virus, if I recall. It's the same thing. I know they changed the name at some point. But anyway, that's the end of the list. Now, this was just a tweet, and the tweet does not mean necessarily the truth. But I've looked at some articles, and I went to the CDC website, and indeed, basically what this article is saying, this tweet is saying is, they can't tell the difference between SARS-CoV-2 and influenza. And where did all our influenza numbers go to this past year? How many people died of the flu? Did we ever get those numbers? Or they've just been calling them all Coronavirus numbers. And maybe this is why. Because now they've revoked their emergency authorization use for this test, the most popular test used for COVID-19, to tell whether or not you had the Coronavirus. So what have we been doing this last year and three months, four months? Well, the story answers so many questions. And the Biden administration tried to flip it through quietly without anybody noticing. And what I'm talking about here is the CDC silently revokes the RT-PCR test, Emergency Youth Authorization, because it combined COVID-19 and the influenza virus. So we tried a little slip this bull by what many medical doctors have considered the gold standard of testing for COVID-19, including the likes of Dr. Anthony Fauci and touted by political and government officials everywhere. has had its emergency use authorization revoked. On Wednesday last week, the CDC has quietly as possible, even though it is on their website, announced that the RRT-PCR tests that were used to let millions of Americans know they were infected with coronavirus or COVID-19 all along has been unable to differentiate the difference between COVID-19 and the flu. This makes sense when you realize that according to the numbers practically no one caught the flu in 2020. Question is, was this done intentionally? I don't want to do all these leaf blowers folks. I guess I could move in my location. I'm hoping they just decide to be finished finally, but if they're not, they're just going everywhere they can, I guess. So that was a tweet that probably went fairly viral in certain networks, but I don't know. You'd have to tell me what the situation was. I don't do tweets, but it got forwarded to me. I literally do not tweet. I literally do not do Facebook. I do not do those things. I refuse to. All right. Let's see. What else? I see there's something else related to the Coronavirus. Again, anybody want to call in? I have most everything that I wanted to talk to you about already done now. Let me go back here and see what I can see. How do I get that page? I'm trying to do this on my phone. I don't have a computer anymore at the moment. Let's see here. Okay. Health officials want the attendees to get tested. They went through California, New York. Remember that? COVID-19 tests the same as influenza tests. I guess I got all the little pages that I had looked up before the show. I got all done. So I'm only halfway done through my show folks and I've already zipped through them. Anybody want to call in? If not, I'm going to have to pick out another topic off the top of my head. You're welcome to call in and talk about whatever you want. The Knob Creek Show, you'll have to just keep watching and I'll continue with this page you've sent me because I got my confirmation, I sent in the money. Actually what I did was, since I don't have any bank accounts, what they did was they, because I sent in a money order and they refunded me a year ago. Because they canceled the show and then they realized they weren't gonna have a second show and then now they were having a third show They refunded me before the end of the year last year for my shows from 2020 from spring of 2020 and they issued me a check I can't do anything with this So I held on to the check for a year almost whatever almost a year and sent it right back them endorsed it on the back and sent back That was my payment. They accepted it. It was their own check. So it was a whether we call an outstanding check for so long for them if I wonder what happened will there it was just popped up and they accepted his payment but anyway October 9th and 9th 2021 located one mile off 31 West Dixie Highway on highway 44 the address is 6990 Richie Lane West Point Kentucky 4017 in Bullitt County Kentucky I know you didn't get all that and I'm not going to repeat it but you can go to knob Creek range dot com or machinegunshoot.com to find that information where to go. I don't believe you have to pre-order tickets. I don't think they run that way, but I've never had to buy tickets. So you might want to check. Because if they limit the number of people going in, they might already be full because of being the last one and all. I don't think that's ever the case, though. I think you can just walk up and buy a ticket. But I could be wrong about that, especially this time. So you might want to check on that. I'm creekrange.com or machinegunshoot.com or you go to my website, forbiddenknowledge.info and my information will link to theirs. So you better check on that because some shows are like that. Some shows require you, especially during the pandemic time, they were requiring you to pre-purchase tickets online. I don't think this is like that, but you better check. Be sure, if you really want to go, make sure that. And also, a couple days before the show, make sure the governor of Kentucky didn't do something stupid, like cancel all public gatherings. It's been done before, hasn't it? Very real possibility, especially now that they have this fourth wave now upon us that they want to try to demonize everybody with and try to force people to get the vaccine by hook or crook. Or by stabbing jab whatever funny how most of us country using the word jab where we talked what we call a shot BBC all here is jab jab jab Okay, well, I don't think these guys have endless tanks on their blowers So anyway the the knob Creek machine gun shoot you better better check on it I don't know the details about reserving or if you even can And same goes with not with same goes with the dragon kind the attendees for this concert and I was surprised I didn't even know about the camp. I am fairly close. I was happened to be going through the town where this concert was being held in Michigan. It's in a town of a small town called Brooklyn, Michigan, which Ed knows exactly where that is at. But it's a small town called Brooklyn, Michigan, which is where they have the Michigan International Speedway Racetrack. And the racetrack was full of campers. And I thought, oh, they have a racist weekend. I didn't know that. But I never heard the race cars because I can hear the race car. You can hear the race cars from about 10 miles away. when you're in that area, if you're out in the country. But I never heard the race cars. I didn't know, oh I know the race, it was on Saturday, so I would have already been in the race day. It turns out it was concert, and I was like, oh that explains why I heard music at night. I thought it was just my neighbors being a little loud, because I'm out in the country well, I got 11 acres out there. And I heard this music, I could tell it was in the distance, but I didn't think it was that far away. But about 40,000 people attended that thing. 37,000 I think was the official number. And now 23, as of four days ago, the last time I saw a story about 23 were confirmed to have the Coronavirus, six of which were vaccinated, fully vaccinated. Go figure. I've been hearing things, but it's anecdotal things. I don't know. I can't tell you whether or not it is as effective as they say it is. I've been hearing some things that people that even died after getting a shot, but I don't know that. For sure, it's just people saying things online or in person. I don't know. I do know people that have gotten it personally, but they didn't die. So they had the flu. Okay, whoop-dee-doo, we get the flu. Yes, you could die from the flu. You're a little more likely to die of the Coronavirus, but not a whole lot more. And do we really know those numbers anyway? Because we've been fed a whole lot of numbers that don't seem to make any sense. Especially when they don't even know, especially when we find out they can't even test for the Coronavirus. isolated from the bag ones. Craig, you were one that had it and you never got tested though, did you? Yes, they did test me here where I'm at and they said I had the coronavirus and that I have the antibodies now and there's been two or three outbreaks here at the facility I'm at since then and They've locked the blast down and nothing's happened to me. I haven't gotten it. And I'm not allowed to get the vaccine. Okay, so you never had the vaccine. You already had the Coronavirus. And you say that they actually told you you have antibodies, right? That's interesting. Because in the press, they're kind of, they're not even claiming that you can be immune from it if you had it before. That's kind of what the press is leading us to believe. But you're in some sort of medical facility then? Is that what I'm understanding? Correct. I'm in a place called Driftwood Nursing Center where I'm recovering from my stroke. Oh, yeah, stroke. I'm sorry to hear that. Did the doctor tell you this, or a nurse, or who actually told you that you had the antibodies? They told me after one round of testing, not too long after the virus got going, they started doing the testing every month here in the nose swab. And then they would go a little further if he tested positive. And one time they told me that I had it. And they told me that I had the antibodies. And would I like to have the vaccine on top of that? And of course, I said, not just no, but hell no. And they're also talking about, go ahead. I just said over. Oh, okay. And what we're hearing now from other countries, and I remember it was England, or I was hearing some talk about a second jab, in other words, already a booster shot, trying to get you to get a booster shot in some countries already, thinking, talking about doing that. And they're being very quiet in the mainstream anyway. You see all sorts of things online, but I don't know what to believe. I'm just being honest with you. They're being very quiet about antibodies and whether or not if you've already had it, if you're immune or not, because they aren't really coming out forward and literally saying that. They're kind of... dancing around it like well, maybe maybe not we don't know that's very interesting that somebody told I just want the reason I asked specifically whether it was a doctor or a nurse and I'm not sure if a nurse or a doctor necessarily would know for sure unless they were told especially not necessarily a nurse if the doctor truly knew that because you had it you had the antibodies or did you or were you tested for the antibodies? blood, a very small blood test and they told me that I did have them or that I tested positive for having them. Now that's what they said. You of course don't have to answer these questions because they may get a little personal but did the stroke have anything to do with the coronavirus? Did they mention that it could have had anything to do with that? No, I had that back in March of last year. Oh, before you had the coronavirus. Okay, I gotcha. Sorry, it may last year. Okay, good. The other thing I want to mention about strokes, some strokes are debilitating, some strokes are even deadly, of course. But here's a little unknown fact for anybody out there who might be listening to me right now. Being in my years of being an alternative healthcare practitioner, most everybody has had a stroke of one form or another. Here's a way you can kind of determine this. What we call mini strokes. There's a lot of people, most people in the country have had little mini strokes that aren't debilitating. You don't even necessarily knew you had it. You might notice something, well what happened there? Another something minor. But I can tell by looking at somebody's picture sometimes whether or not they've had a stroke. If you look at you and you can look in your own mirror too and see this in yourself probably because again most of you have had a mini stroke. Now I would say people that are older that would be more the case with people that are younger but younger people get them too. If you see a loss of symmetry in your face in other words you look in the mirror and if you drew a line and down the middle of your face down the middle your nose vertically and you're looking at your face, you're looking at your eye, you're looking at your lips, your cheeks and you're looking at maybe one side of your face that looks a little different than the other side of the face, that's probably, not necessarily, but it's probably an indication you had a little mini stroke at some point. And it's more pronounced, of course, people had bigger strokes because sometimes they can't even control half their mouth and that affects their speech or their eye droops and all sorts of things can happen when it's a more major stroke. But if you see a loss of symmetry, now, Not everybody has perfect symmetry in their face to begin with, but if you look at some pictures of yourself in childhood and see if you had that symmetry before, by symmetry I'm hoping you understand where left and right side look the same. If you had that symmetry before as a younger person, if you look at some old pictures of yourself and you don't now, that probably means you had a stroke, albeit maybe a small one. If you don't know you had a stroke but your face is looking off, not symmetrical, You probably had a stroke. That's a little unknown fact that it really isn't getting told to us It may not have been enough to notice anything. It may not have been enough to even care What I'm saying is stroke is much more common than we think and it can be terrible Can be very tell it can be deadly and some people might have stroke after stroke in their lifetime So anyway, that doesn't necessarily, it's not necessarily a good thing or bad thing. I'm just letting people know. And you might run to the mirror and look yourself or look at your spouse and look at their face and look at anybody. And most everybody will have their face that isn't quite symmetrical. And then you might mention them, hey, go back and look at some photos when you're a kid and see if your face was crooked like that. Because essentially it's a little crooked. My face is a little crooked. I really strongly believe my brother had a stroke that he didn't know about. He actually had a loss of understanding where he was for a few hours. He was on the road and he pulled over and he didn't even know. He pulled off of the road and he like, a few hours later he's like, why am I here? Why am I pulled outside of the road? What happened the last few hours? I suppose there was missing time. He probably had a stroke because his face was never the same afterwards. He didn't have the typical symptoms of a stroke, but he had the visible signs later that he probably had a stroke. So anyway, the stroke, I'm not trying to downplay a stroke, I'm just saying that most people had it. And so don't be, and you might want to research all that, what I just told you a little bit. Okay, let's see, what time do I got here? I've got another 15 minutes at least. What else do I want to talk about? Anybody want to talk about anything you really health-related to call or anybody else want to call in and talk about anything you want? It's interesting. Oh, by the way, Craig, when I first spoke, I have been told that the flu has got approximately a 5% lethality and mortality percentage. And COVID has a 0.4% and the new so-called Delta variant has one-tenth of that as far as lethality, you know, mortality. That's the numbers I have been told. I've heard different numbers. I don't know if I've heard that one. Generally the numbers, well because if your numbers are true, if you just gave me those numbers are true, then that means we have an extreme propaganda campaign going on. It's a fear mongering campaign to get everybody to get scared to get the shot. That would be my opinion. If the numbers you said were true, I don't know if the numbers you said were true because most of the numbers I hear are kind of reversed where the influenza is like 0.5% and then the COVID, the corny virus is like up to 5% or something they want to claim. So I'm not disputing what you're saying. I'm just saying I've heard different numbers and we've all heard different numbers. So who knows which numbers are real. But if the numbers you gave me were true, that would mean it's a propaganda campaign to scare people to death to get them to run and get the vaccine because for whatever for whatever ulterior reasons they want to give us the vaccine for. And I've heard so many conspiracy theories on this. I don't have any idea if it's designed to kill you or designed to make you sick or designed to get you the coronavirus or designed to put a microchip in you and all this thing we hear. We hear all sorts of conspiracy theories about this. And I tend to just let those blow over because I hear so many ridiculous conspiracy theories. I heard another one yesterday. What was it? God, I heard another one. It was crazy. I can't remember what it was now. It was just so outrageous that I said, well, how could anybody believe that? But we, we, the internet is a cesspool of bull crap for the most part. You can find some good things on the internet, but it's hard to sort through all the nonsense because of people trying to write a book. Get page views or YouTube views or whatever there seems like there's all sorts of agendas afoot to lie intentionally because the more outrageous you make it the more hits it's gonna get if I tell you I saw Elvis in a yellow UFO last week and put it on YouTube on video YouTube video on online probably get a million hits in the first couple days Because it's so stupidly outrageous Boy, did you hear somebody saw Elvis in a yellow UFO? I just pulled it out of my ass. But that's what happens on the internet. So here's a search method. Nowadays, Craig, it's not Elvis, it's Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson, okay. I heard Liberace too. I heard Liberace as well, but that's for old folks to remember who the hell Liberace was. You've got to admit, when you've got one guy as their front man, pushing the fear factor that being Fauci and you have another who that is a doctor that is also a senator and he's a practicing doctor and he's calling him out for lying and He he won't acknowledge that you know Rand Paul is a practicing doctor He'll would cause him a senator and the senator has no idea what goes on in the medical, you know, I profession. Um, him and his dad, they're both doctors. He's still a practicing doctor. He volunteers time to go out and do stuff. So I would say to everybody on the on the Senate floor. He's probably the one who has the better idea than everybody else. The terminology isn't everything that they're talking about. Other than the ones that talk about the mask usage that are have dealt with OSHA and the OSHA standards as far as the mask goes. Just opening that can of worms, wearing the mask too long makes you sick and they know it. But anyway, I'll just grab that mask off. They start the double masking thing they start to let me ask you something because I haven't kept up with it for you know quite a while and you may know Where's Ron Paul when you need what was Ron Paul who of course was a medical doctor? What's Ron Paul saying about us now does anybody know do you know anybody? Ron Paul has his website. He is anti-vaccine and his son is still is in the Senate Rand Paul and he is make up your own mind but have the proper information about it you know don't just listen to what the boob tube says because a boob tube speed me a line of propaganda Yeah, I saw, here's a little interesting story. I went to see a doctor, it was I think in January for a little problem I having with an injury on my foot. And I went to this doctor in Ann Arbor, Michigan, and this doctor walked into his office and of course this was during the mask mandate and everything. They weren't wearing a mask. I had my mask on because well, that's what Gremlin, which mer says we're supposed to do. So it's a wear mask in those I'm in a doctor's office But they're not wearing a mask and I get to finally got for the doctor's a why are you wearing that mask? Well, okay. Well, I don't know the governor says oh, I don't know that's just being courteous and on his wall in in the doctor's office in the waiting room doctor's office is a it's a it's a meme is a picture of somebody it says The first step in fighting coronavirus, that's what it says. And the picture is of somebody throwing a TV out the window. Now this is a medical doctor. This is not an alternative health care medication. This is a medical doctor with a real medical doctor's license. So it was really interesting when he was telling me why he wear a mask. And he was against the vaccines as well. Down here, Craig, in Houston, they had the one hospital where they laid off more than half the staff because the doctors, the nurses, refused for a multitude of reasons not to get the vaccine. So the hospital laid them off or threatened them with being laid off. They could only come back to do their jobs if they got the COVID shot. And a bunch of them said no. So, with this quote-unquote crisis going on, supposedly they're so overwhelmed they don't have enough staff, you lay off more than half of your medical staff. And it wasn't just regular medical staff either. This was their emergency, almost their entire emergency room staff. Yeah, did not want the vaccine Probably because hey who sees the side effects when the side effects go bad, you know, who's it gonna be? Well, you get into an emergency anaphylactic shock or something else that goes on with whatever it is Whether it be the Bell palsy thing or like it they're in Michigan where you are The now I think it's five kids who they got the the two-dose shot and on the second dose it killed them Michigan's got a record spot for the deaths right now as far as we know, confirmable through documentation and reporting from the mainstream media. So they can't really deny that. And they're trying to get 12-year-olds that are between 12 and 18, they're trying to get them to get the shot now too. And now if you get the shot, you can still get COVID, you can still spread it. So we need to do the mask mandate thing again. I'm just waiting for the double remember we didn't get everything thought you wanted when we when he said the mat where two masks he also said gloves and a face shield I mean you might as well be wearing like dad said if you're gonna push this it's claimed it's that serious Why aren't you wearing a full mop? You know NBC? You know chemical biological? Go ahead, caller. Yeah, and this question is going to be both to you Craig and to you Ed. Ready for the question? Go ahead. Okay, what is it that it definitively states on the outside of the packaging of the masks or... Not for medical use. Not for medical use, will not stop viruses or biological material. Even on the blessed ones that they say have the charcoal filter in it and whatnot, it will not filter viruses. It's not... Yeah, why is because of all of the... One of the main reasons is all of the outer surface of the edge of the mass not conforming properly to the shape of the face, unlike a gas mass. The wax mask is designed and made to stick and suck to the curvatures of the face and to actually seal and they're functional. They work. Over. Okay. Let me address that. The, okay, first of all, the M90, the typical paper mask that people are wearing when you see them on the street, yes, you can't get a perfect fit around your face. And so, yes, you could get some leakage there. And I think everybody's helped. I don't think glasses fog up. If you, I mean, there's so many things you can see that now they don't feel well, the paper ones. Okay, so that being said, that being said, now go move on to a gas mask now. Okay, with a gas mask, you can get a good seal, so I mean, you don't have facial hair that gets in the way or your face is deformed in some way. You can get a good seal. However, the gas mask filter canisters, which have a combination of a HEPA filter and charcoal in them. The charcoal itself is in no way going to stop even a bacteria. The charcoal has pretty large gaps in it. However, the HEPA filter, which will filter down to about 0.3 microns, will filter out a bacteria, but it will not filter out a virus because a virus measures between .005 and .3 microns. So even a gas, even a well-fitting tested gas mask will still not 100% filter out a virus through that cartridge, even if it's sitting properly and everything else is falling. Don't give them ideas, Craig, because we've seen them joke with it in several sci-fi pieces about buying canned air. You know, I'm sure it's called, you know, what is it, by Northern Springs oxygen. Can't air before 2019, huh? Vintage air for sale. No, so that's my that's my answer caller is the gas mask can't stop the virus either it may stop some of it I mean it can filter down to point three microns and but by viruses are smaller than viruses are maybe between 0.005 and 0.3 microns here think about this Okay, the medical industry has PPE personal protective gear But do you know why they wear the mask in the hospital? What the big use is in the hospitals for those masks that have been depleted and entered and now you got counterfeit masks that don't have the proper filtering and everything. It is not to protect the doctor from the patient. It is to prevent the patient who may have an open wound or may have a deficient immune system from the doctor. If they're cutting into somebody and they're working on them, you don't want, you know, You don't want to send particles into the wound. That's why the medical industry uses PPE. They don't use it in this way. They've never used it in this way, except for in some countries in Asia. And even there, it's like a bad thing unless you have like a really serious Not even an allergy problem. I can't remember what the big reason was for them to start wearing it originally. But you'll see it in anime and whatnot. I know we got some people that are listening to say that they like to watch anime. It's like every now and again you'll see a character who's wearing a mask. Well, it's because they have a health condition. It's not because they're trying to protect themselves from getting a virus or anything. And they've had scares before in Asia anyway of various diseases going around. in the past, long before coronavirus. Yeah, you know what I do is, I've never really worn the mask except for in just certain situations where I go, where they're saying it's mandatory, required, and there's somebody right up in my face. And then I'll go ahead, you know, I've carried one of the little paper masks in my pockets, and I always have a hand down on them. And there were a few of the gun shows, they were pretty strict about masks, but as soon as a person that wasn't making comments about it, with the promoter, I would just take it right off. What I focus and concentrate on myself is my immune system, keeping my immune system strong, trying to get the 72 elements. and minerals and all in the that we've been made to use them to absorb nutrients. Also, what I've been taking for about two years now is the vitamin C, vitamin D3, selenium, and zinc pretty much on a daily basis. So yeah, I think for my money and my efforts, from my knowledge and perspective is it's health. Keeping our keeping our systems or trying to use your sounding like Kevin sir servo who has been you know banned from Facebook for talking exactly the way you just did Yeah, yeah, that's my understanding. You know well once again. You know my father have mercy on all of their souls you know It is what it is I believe that people, there are a lot more people that are getting a lot more knowledgeable about reality plus these. Almost none of it actually being true. Just a normal thing for those talking heads to get up there. And there's very few that can see reality for what it is, I think, in my perspective. Thanks for participating today. My show is just about over here. Ed, if you're still there, I just have a quick question for you. I know it's been a number of years since you left. where you lived in Michigan. If you're soliciting, do you know about the Faster Horses show? Did they even have that when you were in the area, in Brooklyn, Michigan? I'm pretty sure that they did. That's one of those shows that's been around for a while, but I didn't, I think like everything else in Michigan, they kind of took a hit, like all the antique engine shows. It's hard to find a decent antique engine show in Michigan anymore, as you know. Monohans was one of the last ones, and even there it was sparse. And he passed away a couple years ago, didn't he? Yeah, he did. Yeah, I thought he did. Okay, thank you. And as a last note, you mentioned Michael Jackson. I was born in the same city in the same year as Michael Jackson was, unfortunately. Can you imagine being born a black man and dying as a white woman? How did that happen? Anyway, thanks everybody for listening. This is Greg from Forbid Knowledge. Hopefully I'll be with you next week and forbid knowledge that info if you want more information. We have a YouTube channel, ForbidTV, by YouTube. Thanks everybody for joining us. Hold on. Constitution. You know, the right to bear arms is because that's the last form of defense against tyranny, not to hunt, to protect yourself from the police. Anybody that wants to disarm me can drop dead. Anybody that wants to make me unarmed and helpless, people that want to literally create the proven places where more innocents are killed called gun-free zones, we're going to beat you. We're going to vote you out of office or suck on my machine gun. I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, We've fought a revolution to cure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. This number you traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. and your daughters visit doctors so their children will be. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Both sons of the Republic arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch and tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Dill the land of the free. I hear the drum They made him a second lieutenant. They branched him infantry They found seven holes in his body. The enemy'd only made three. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. This is the evening intelligence report. I'm our currently one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, southeast, North and Southeast. Ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on LibertyTreeRadio.org.com, Liberty Tree Radio on satellite, and we are on AM and FM microstations, CB base stations, and UltraNet hallmark in Golden Spike technologies, east and west of the Mississippi. along with Alaska. Good afternoon and evening to all of our friends out there in Lower 49 including the great state of Jefferson along with the Kona Sea outline, two states' territories and the clock. It is 8.06 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. It is Weapons Wednesday. It is the 28th of July and the 13th year of open, in your face, crazy town, fruit loop, nut case, barely can put two words together, baby and socialist. and the Soviet Socialist Occupation of America with a K. 2021, Old Earth Calendar, 2021, Battle for the Republic, Dance of Swords. And just in case you didn't hear, a couple of our friends out there, we've got a red, blue, green headed out to, let's see, that's going to Colorado, and we have another going to Ohio, and actually a set. going to yet another location. So guys, everybody pay attention. Watch mailboxes. You've got boxes coming in. I want to make sure that we get to where they're going. Let me explain something. We do well as far as the material that we offer on the air. There's a dual purpose behind this. Number one, it benefits and your donations support Liberty Tree Radio. But the stuff that I pick out is designed to also enhance or support our war effort. So whatever it is, it needs to be in your hands, not mine. I don't need it sitting here. I'm trying to get it out as quick as we can. And whatever happened with one case, you actually got two, as we did notice in the email. And they were in the line item, the way it looked. It kind of hiccuped, doesn't want from one page to the next, and it looked like it was an overlap. That guy in the box, that's been gone this morning. And so watch your mailbox. You will have that shortly. In no way, shape, or form. Do I want to... You need it in hand. Okay. I appreciate the donation. The offer was, well, don't worry about sending it. No, no, no, no, no, no. I did this for a reason. You probably need it for a reason. Put it where it belongs. Use it when the time comes. Use it well and kill Qing Li. Okay, that's our job. That's our mission. Remember, and we shall sing as we slay. It is Weapons Wednesday and one of the things I wanted to talk about real quick is somebody was asking about the two copy paper boxes full of documents. Yeah, we didn't have any really reasonably priced electronic storage systems back in the day. I mean, you had cassette for most of your computer or reel to reel, but everything was printed out with thank God and that's why it was saved. And the documents and information, like a lot of the arsenal information we have out there that I've been reviewing for years, I actually keep rereading some of the stuff because there's always something to pick up, was priceless, but it was because Michigan was the center for technology, guys. This was the hub. In fact, again, we have Great Lakes, fresh water. We have 73% of the potable fresh water. They say it's 76, perhaps. But 73 to 76% of the potable fresh water above ground is sitting right around where I'm sitting right now, making this the gemstone of the planet. But in addition to that, we had oil. We had coal. We had gold. We had copper. We had iron. We have food. and water, everything you need, like a country within a country. This is the most critical part of the United States within the United States because it can self-sustain, which they don't want you to think about. They've done everything again. These are bewitch commies in Washington and the globalists don't want you to think about the Great Lakes and just exactly what value is sitting here. We have to fight for it. But what's really cool is in the past when we built ships here, we built aircraft, we built tanks, we built guns, we built electronics, we did aviation in every stretch you can imagine, missile operations, space operations, and all of that overlapped and integrated. For the longest time, I mentioned one, Vendix, aerospace was also Vendix. engineering and they did some unique work you've never seen. It's out there but it's not. In other words, a lot of guys handled the equipment but you didn't see any publicity on it for a reason. And if you were to see the facilities that they operated out of and how small they were and then realize how big they were in terms of an American giant when it came to technology, Two different worlds, guys. It's not a matter of size, it's a matter of intelligence. It's why they've been trying to crush America's, the goyim's head like flaky with a snake. Remember, that's what they're doing with the education system. That's why Common Core slash Common Horror Math was introduced to destroy the unclean, your mind, your children's mind, so that they wouldn't be able to even grasp the idea of some of the things that in the past we have built. Okay, don't make any mistake about it. It's part of the big oi- oi-guev-all plan. That's why we've been working on that from another direction with regard to the people who are listening. They become masters of as many trades as possible. That's why I promote that with you the same way. Anyway, um... What's really cool about this too when it comes to some of the stuff that was written up? We actually had three different factory production centers that could produce the M1 carbine and the Garand and the Browning. In fact, every gun had to be the ability to build every weapon that was in the standard infantry inventory had to be produced or had to be able to be produced by each of the arsenal factories out there. Example You know, for instance, steering and gear up in Saginaw. Okay, the Saginaw carbine. Well, they originally weren't doing carbine, they were doing car parts. But they tried to cheat three times to try and keep the contract that they were awarded in the very early days. The Saginaw steering and gear operation, they were supposed to have 500 off the line, no tuning. Now, what they mean by that is you don't have to dress the parts. File this and lap that Polish this to get them to work. They have to come off the production line 500 pieces totally integratable without any tooling other than the machine tooling that would be expected for production that was the nature of the standards and the precision expected for Most American arms and well for at least for their production. Okay, most people realize this there wasn't any well, we can fix this opportunity When the inspectors came in the first time, and I've read this on the air, I have the white papers on this, just an example of how things work, and sometimes don't work, they got caught by the inspectors the first time around because the inspectors were trained tool and diamond. And they saw the file marks or the lap marks where they tried to clean up and tune up guns where they were supposed to have 500 production guns as a test run and then they get the award of the rest of the contractor. They take the tooling out of the plant and take it down the road to the next guy in line. Well, they screwed up and they invested a lot of time. So government, they said, okay, we'll come back in 30 days. In fact, 28 days. And you better be ready to go. So they did it again. They cranked out 500 complete rifles. This included subparts and assemblies. But guess what? They tried to cheat again and they got caught. So the third time kind of pays for it all. They said, okay, well, and again, the war department, it wasn't the DOD, don't it destruction? The war department was, well, we need weapons. We're losing in the Pacific. We need this stuff done now. We could be invaded. So, okay, well, this is it. You either get it right or not. So they did produce a thousand, think about this, a thousand hand-tuned custom-built M1 carbines, Saginaw steering and gear, okay? And then they turned around and actually built 500 the way they were supposed to. So the first thousand guns, which I guarantee they couldn't have thrown away. I don't know what they did with them. They didn't, you know, they weren't accepted as, you know, production-run guns. Well, we were too desperate back then and I've always wondered because there was never any information on that. It's like, okay Well the first 500 work because they made sure that everything shot everything did what it was supposed to do But it was not to the traditional, you know, it wasn't to the full precision necessary because they've done it a very short period of time The second time the same situation. Well, the government couldn't afford to throw anything away at that point guys We were losing in the Pacific And we weren't holding our own too well in the Atlantic, other than the sinking submarines. So there's a thousand unique guns that most of you might not realize that might be XMs that may be floating around. Maybe they sent them out to the Pacific. Maybe they went to Europe and they went down with a ship or something and they're sitting in the middle of the Atlantic a mile and a half down. It's quite possible. But those rifles are in of themselves collectors items within the collection I mean these will be like the cream to the cream they you want a gun that's worth $20,000 let me show you one or more because it just be one of 1000 and how many survive so just a heads up But to give you an idea of the trouble in you know again consistency and manufacturing remember not only did they have to make a carbine that worked in the factory and you know, came from that factory and everything interchanged. It had to interchange with every other curbing out there on the planet. There was no, you know, the armor having to tune. Everything was within a very narrow specific tolerance range for every part. And that is something Russia couldn't do, that is something England could barely do and it was pressed hard to be able to do because of the stress it had with its duration, its involvement in the war, and its extension of resources all over the planet, and its loss of materials in the early days of the war. And there wasn't anybody else to match us. Japan had good production, but again, they couldn't put the volume out there. So just a heads up, it may look good, may look easy, but it's not. And it means that we have to maintain higher standards across the board and we're going to, where they're necessary. But I'm gonna repeat again, they also did this with wartime production with US military equipment. The standards of the beginning of the war weren't dropped, but they were altered because there were certain things that just weren't necessary. Finish was maintained to maintain the integrity of the metal, but not for the sake of beautification of the firearm. So, pretty didn't come for anything. And flat and remember or park arising, flat paint or park arising did most of the work. And that's how they went through most of the war production with regard to trimming things down and minimizing cost. Learn by reading and then understand that way when the time comes for this next war the second American war for independence as We're fighting it we have to take advantage of lessons learned so that we don't have to relearn them by trial and error There's no reason for that. Okay? Again precision this is where you take your met your tradesmen and focus them where they need to be It's kind of like I said, you know, we got a we call the doctors unit. It's a it's a battalion strike now. They actually have They recruited people from all over the place. And they also have money, so they have better weapons than the average bear. But I've always joked, and I said, you know, and I've said this many times on the air too, Doc, you're a surgeon. Yes, and I want to fight the New World Order. Doc, if you do nothing but what you do for a living and you help keep how many thousands of men alive, you would have done far more for the cause. Yes, but I want to shoot people who are for the New World Order. Okay, Doc. So I'll tell you what, we won't tell Doc this, but we go grab a couple of the enemy combatants, duct tape some dysfunctional weapons to their hands, stake them on a rope, put them out in the field, bring Doc out, tell them, there's two over there, Doc. If you shoot them, you go back to work. Is that okay? Sure, no problem. Boom, boom. And they twitch for a bit and they die. Well, you know what? That noble sacrifice by those two swine slash yohudi trash slash you know, excrement from the globalist side, are a reasonable price to pay so that Doc will save your life. And maybe mine and maybe others down the road because he'll have time to do it, but he'll feel satisfied. We also want to make sure that our friends and allies have job satisfaction tied in to their effort. So would I do that for Bob? Would I do that for Doc? Would I do that for any of us? Yep, and heartbeat. Why? I care less about the other side, but I know a lot of people I'd like to see still kicking and breathing. That's why I need that surgeon on the job. If it means, you know, letting him do the, let's just say the state game routine. Nope, we can do that. We will do it. I mean, a heartbeat. I don't think twice. So, the one thing about that though is these guys, they train. They do train in medical. I, okay, I got to help you understand something. They've set up. medical support units, but they also have the money to actually go out when they determine that they want something, they can just go buy it. They have a ton of PTR-91s, beautiful rifles, earlier models and select models as they chose. They also have a bunch of belt-fed guns, Browning semi-autos, anything that's popped in in the market, they pretty well procured. You might remember those 556s, belt-fed guns that were up, what, about a year and a quarter ago. Remember? Let's see, CDN and Investments had them and so did classic firearms, remember? And there were some also over at Centerfire. Well, they bought a ton of those. Of course, they also made a point of then buying pallets of the saw ammunition in the cans, and so they stocked up on what they needed for that. These guys are serious, they understand full well. In fact, they were dead on the money about the Corona Beer Virus Camp. They tried to warn people about it, they just shrugged and didn't say anymore and basically walked away from the job, so to speak. And... And Mark? It's just the way it is. I mean, it's fascinating. We have plenty of people that are from these different schools that are on our side, guys. Just going to make sure we take care of them because some of them have skills that would take a long time for you to develop and they've already got them in the box. We've got to protect them. Go ahead, call or jump in there, please. Yeah. You were talking last hour about the SABO rounds. Is this? Yeah, is it possible to can you still get the say bows and you know input like a you know Like a 556 round in them for odd six or thirty or three oh eight and are those still available? Yes, but what I've got I don't have it at my fingertips, but I just had it last night I should have written it down and put it in my pocket the company is out in Utah and They have colored they have different colors. So if you're gonna load the different specs I would actually find out what colors they have and if I was going to do one bullet and do a certain powder, I would use a certain color of SayBolt. They do have the 30 caliber down to 5.56 and they also have 50 caliber down to 30 caliber. So any of the 30 caliber projectile options are there. Plus they did do a batch of the 50 caliber to 338 diameter. So they do have those now also. And that's an interesting... Yeah, that's just the jackets, right? Not the bullet inserted. No, just the jackets. And they come pillows of 1,000 or 5... I mean, you can order... I think it's 1,000 minimum. They probably do 100 counts, but I do 1,000 anyway. Because if you're going to load it up, you're going to want a quantity. But they also have a centering tool that's part of your die set. And they have those also. And in fact, they also have all the loading data. So you don't have to guess if you want the baseline loading data for any .30 caliber weapons. Or forgive me, any .30 caliber chambering that the round could possibly be used in, they have the data for loading for each one of them. And you say they're in Utah, right? Yeah, they're in Utah. And what was the name of the team? I want to say right off the top of my head, it's B and J Industries, B and J Industries, but I could be wrong. B and J just jumps out at me. But they're older gentlemen. They were into a number of other trades. They're in the gun corridor out there in Utah. And I think I've got probably 6,000 Sables that I picked up from them years ago. and those are on standby for future missions. And there's the 30 caliber. Mostly I picked up the cream, the brown and the brown and they also had, there was an option between black and they had a gray, so I took the gray, because, you know, just in either case, the black, the gray, black is probably be okay. My concern or interest are two things. Don't want anybody to see anything flashing around when I'm loading stuff, you know, I'm loading ammo. So colors work, but I went with softer or darker colors. The other thing is, if they're trying to figure out what somebody got shot with, it's a lot harder to find a tan, or a green, or a brown, or a gray, or a black sable on the ground than a colored one. It's kind of like when you're looking for arrows after you've shot them. When you have camo arrows, yeah, it's really cool. You can't see them when you're carrying them, but you also can't see them when you're hunting for them. So yeah, really cool. What am I other question of course is this is okay? I know these work great in in a bolt gun, but could they be fired out of an AR 10? I mean or is the you know the way they? You know the magazine I mean because it's a pretty violent when the bolt picks up around you know it's pretty violent You know I didn't know if that was oh well the variation they have is it is basically the same thing that Remington picked up And those were designed to operate, for instance, their 308 saybos, they were operating those in M1As. So it should work. Yeah, when they first came out, remember actually Remington bought Both the BRI safety slug and Remington didn't come up with the idea for the Sebo. That was, you know, for the rifle Sebo. They bought that from another company. I can't recall the name right off the top of my head, but that was a couple of boys, couple of guys, not boys, young men that basically looked at the Frankfurt Arsenal books and said, hey, look at this. And what they did is they came up with a new polymer Sebo. Then they they was privately done. They had a garage. They did everything with a plastic infusion machine They did all the tooling themselves even made their own molds and They started producing those first and Remington bought them is what they did Remington bought the little company so the guys became I think millionaires, you know for a little bit of work and Sold a ton of this stuff beforehand because it all basically it was in the private sector way before Any of the name brand companies came up with it and originally it was it it was for like using the 556 in the In the 308 round in the 762 by 51 NATO. Go ahead. I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah, I was just kind of wondering because there's a There's a to me. He's the kid. He's in the 30s this guy's He's out of Minnesota Looks like a red-headed stepchild But his channel name is CRSfirearms. Now, his idea, he had a rifle that he showed several episodes on and he was trying to make a rifle that would penetrate steel armor at 100 yards. And what he ended up doing was using an AR-10, but he put a .243 barrel on it. And his problem was, he did get it to work, but his problem was that he could not get a full metal jacket. In order to get over 3,000 feet per second, he needed a 55 or 60 grain full metal jacket. And he just couldn't, I guess nobody makes a 243 that light and full metal jacket. So what he ended up doing was... Not that I know of. Yeah, and so it ended up doing was using you know, you know hunting rounds or barber rounds and he at a hundred yards he was able to Well, not exactly penetrate but the bullet was going so fast when it hit the steel plate the bullet, you know it evaporated but It it cut out a little puck and the puck with you know was going fast enough where it would it would go right through anybody or anything else behind it so Yeah, yeah, it only thing is is that you know I think he would have been better off using the stable and then been able to use the 556 Bullet instead of trying to go with the 243 he made a good he made a really good rifle though out of it With his what was it with his plan was? Well, remember that these are molded for I believe they're for the Sierra boat tail ball They do make one for the spitzer all life. So this I think the spitzer nest the same way But it doesn't rest in the full depth of the cup because of the spitzer base, you know, forgive me the Sierra base mold as opposed to the spitzer, you know projectile the regular 55 brain what's interesting is Remember to get the the achieve the objective you're talking about number one You break out the lathe and what you do is you make a mimic solid steel or take your pick of whatever heavy metal you want to use but it's going to need to be something in the steel or titanium ring and you would make a standard steel, all steel projectile. Then you, and of course you make it to the spec for the cup so whatever it is, if it's a spitzer or a sierra, whatever rests in there, It literally is a duplicate solid steel copy of a standard 55 or 62 grain FMJ. Now, once that's accomplished and that's not very difficult, and again you'll have a full spire point on this, you then can start pushing the powder specs up. Remember, they did all the math over at the company, so you can see what the baseline is. And then how you can load up accordingly. In 308 and 30-06, both can be loaded up quite dramatically with a sealed system barrel and with a bowl barrel. Easily, you can just barely achieve 5,000 feet per second. That's a realistic goal. That's literally a lightning bolt. But the thing is that again, you really need a second or third shot If you're talking about a round that when it hits, it's either going to go through that metal or it's going to produce such kinetic energy on impact and driving force. So one way or another, something's going to get hurt. And I really wouldn't fire a second round anyway under policy. So boom, and then time to move and see what you did the last one from another position. But the 4,300. 4,300 to 4,400 feet per second can easily be achieved using, for instance, if you want to go more expensive, either titanium, which is light, you've got to remember you're talking very light now, you're talking aluminum weights. But the other option is to go with tungsten. And, you know, I mentioned the squeeze bore rounds before. Remember, it was a tungsten core penetrator that they were using with a squeeze bore design for anti-tank use in a basically almost, well, either you would call it a heavy rifle or a light gun. That's where the weapon was. It sat right there in the niche in between. But that round could penetrate any existing tank during that period of time and really would have probably been upgraded accordingly, but that was a squeeze bore. Instead of the SABO, they went with modifying the barrel and coming up with a compression type projectile. And they still achieved velocities quite comparable, but there was a lot more work involved. The SABO is so incredibly simple, and yet so incredibly efficient with regard to energy delivery. That's what's fascinating. And again, you could originally where the idea came from was tank gunnery. All main tank gun rounds, or not all rounds, all main tank guns, no matter how big or small, have a discarding Sabot round made for them. The BMP, that was its low pressure, high velocity, 73 millimeter gun. What was it's secret? They were using a SABO round. And of course it did have HE, they had a number of other rounds available, but that SABO round meant that it could actually do some major van damage. It didn't have the range, but it had equal penetration within its acceptable engagement range. And so again when you're talking... Go ahead. come up with some homemade body armor. You know, he's taking people, whatever they send in, and he tests it, and so far nobody's gotten past level one. They all stopped at 45 or something, but you know, it might be something to look at, you know, see what these people send in. Right. Well, I'll tell you what, we got another voice there. Call or jump in here, you've been patient. Yeah, Mark, this is lucky. I just had a question about the, I'm sure you remember the, I'm pretty sure of the Rheumcken 3006 Accelerator Round, which was the SABO 223 in the 3006 case. I happen to still have a box of those that my dad bought years ago, but I had someone tell me that those are illegal now, which, I don't think he knew what he was talking about. No, they're not illegal. It's just the idea that they it's like everything else. He didn't like them. It's like Winchester. Winchester used to make and they still actually do make 357 Conical AP. Okay. My dad used to carry a whole pocket full of those because he carried a Smith and Wesson model 27. and the whole big brag with the Model 27 with a 6-inch barrel is that it could split a big block engine, you know, crack a big block engine with a single hit. Well, one of the reasons it could do that could be, you'll say, we can't do that, it's 357, what are you gonna use? Well, Winchester made a what they called a cruiser route, and it was designed to be fired, I don't know if you guys didn't, this is all history, they made a special gun port for the pistol, in certain police cars on the rider's side. It was supposed to be for a squad car where you have two men. And the AP round was designed for car thumping, for knocking out engines. And it's interesting, the firing station was right in the dash. It literally was like a, it was almost like a firing port on a BMP or a Bradley. But it was built into the dash, so it was very non-plus. You didn't really pay attention to it unless you were looking closely at the car. But on the inside, it afforded traverse and elevation with the gun. And the idea was that they sold that with the Winchester AP feature as the way to bust blocks, in other words, knock out cars. So when somebody yaps about that, they usually don't know what they're talking about. You can use the 158 green, you know, 357 to, you know, penetrate something like that. Well, no, they did. As a matter of fact, one of them was 137 grain conical, full, dense, copper, bronze jacket, copper washed, bronze layered, and it was a full house 357 Magnum load otherwise. So the thing was hot from the get go. And they would guarantee it would go through both automotive sheet metal back in the day. Guys, that's not like the punky junk we have now. Gotta remember that remember cars back then you could lay on the hoods you could stand on the hoods remember I Got a trunk sitting at the house from a 47 and it's like it's got more metal than most of the front end of any of the new cars I mean the whole front end. Okay, so you got to remember it was designed to go through sheet metal maybe some other structural component and was still supposed to punch a hole in an engine and it did So, the bullet design is half the battle figuring out what it is you want to do. And by the way, that was not a new idea. You want to know where they got that idea from? Here's a challenge. Go back and look at 9mm Parabellum, pre-World War I German manufactured ammunition. When you look at the round and understand, they knew then the big deal before World War I is that body armor was coming back into style. All this other stuff that we're talking about right now is all the stuff that was going on back in before World War I. The Germans, when they came up with a 9mm parabellum, the standard load before the war started, right to the first year of the war, was an AP round, a conical ball AP round. Actually, it's a collector's item, obviously now. But it was standard German military issue. You didn't see any of the round ball, for the most part, in inventory. Instead, it was conical ball. and its purpose was to penetrate because the 9mm is kind of a nice pick round to begin with, isn't it? What if you redesigned the bullet for specific armor penetration? Well, guess what? You get a positive result. So I don't know that that would do us any good with, well, I don't know. I mean, I really don't. With the present armor, because of the, again, if you're building homogeneous armor plate and you're tempering it, and again, treating it to spec and you're looking at level four rifle, The 9mm Parabellum AP might not penetrate, but it might give you something to think about. Just something, again, it's, we're all we're doing is rediscovering things that, a hundred years ago, was second nature. Like I've said before, there are skills that we have lost in terms of marksmanship that were second nature to the riflemen of 100 plus years ago. And they would laugh at somebody telling you, oh, you can't engage in anything past 200 yards. My grandfather used to laugh before he passed away when they were yapping that crap. He was a World War I, and it was a 700-yard shot. We didn't want him any closer. We could help. As soon as they left the trench, we were shooting their ass. And that was 800 yards, seven, 800 yards, rifle, individual rifle. He was carrying a 1917 Enfield. Later on, he had an O3 Springfield. Most of them still liked the 1917 Enfield because it was heavier and he wasn't a big guy, he was small. But it was the idea that it was a much heavier barrel and so it had more rigidity when it came to compensation and reaction to the bullet traveling down the barrel. And because of that, it had a little greater accuracy. And that's why most of York, they always show them carrying a Springfield, but in reality if you read all the Sergeant York stories for utility, especially because it had a little bigger magazine, it had an internal 8 or 10 depending on what year, what month actually, because the war didn't last that long for us. But he liked it because it had a 10 round internal magazine, marksmanship, in other words accuracy. and pretty smooth action. He had no problem with the cocking on the closing as opposed to the way the Mauser actions operate. So a little ways away from the AP stuff, but it's still that period of time, everything we're talking about guys, they had already worked out. But the Sable wasn't around. There was a wood version of that. Sable was kind of a really weird accidental solution that came out first with a sleeving system because you know it's kind of like paper wanting a shell and they discovered that upon using the round extensively in the field they were identifying improved performance they did not anticipate the gun wasn't supposed to be field gun wasn't supposed to be that accurate well what was the difference well the the sleeving that they used which was apparently like oak plank kind of material When it went downrange, there were some kind of steel wire binders around the shell, but they broke. And so what happened is, because the projectile was lighter and the volume was made up with the wood, which allowed for the thing to travel faster, the outer planking just sheared away and the round continued downrange at greater velocity, but also with greater accuracy. They weren't even really trying for that. Then somebody actually stepped back and said, what's this doing? That's the beginning of a whole pile of science after that. The Sabos word, or as my Sarge used to say, Sabo, don't you tell me what it sounds like, Sabo, or Sabot. I love that one. Remember Sabot. Oh God, I'm cringing. Don't you know French? Yeah, but I ain't French. It's a Sabot. Not a Sabo. So, that is still the simplest, easiest, and remember it could be made out of plastic, could be made out of wood, could be cast out of frangible aluminum. And the trick with that would be to cast the aluminum but put little cleave points where each of the little petals has to bend and the aluminum would fracture and separate quite efficiently. Of course, that would take a little more science, not much, but a little more because it's casting aluminum. But aluminum is not hard to cast. There's a lot of people who have been doing small foundry research. You would catch up real fast on how to do it. The only thing is with a 30 caliber, it would be a lot smaller. So your possibility of flaws affecting the design or an issue, 50 caliber, probably not a problem at all. shouldn't be at all. The biggest thing is the similar metals are going to get aluminum basically the equivalent to aluminum plating. This happens with copper when you're using copper rounds too. You've got to remember that you're going to need different solvents and you definitely want the aluminum out of the steel barrel as quickly as possible because you will end up with fragmented electrolysis. It'll be kind of like a little weird pock march if you were to leave it in there long enough. And the reason is because you're thermalizing the material. Remember, when you fire, you put a high energy charge behind the sable. The sable of its aluminum, parts of it will shear off or flake with the lands and grooves of the rifling. Most of it you can't even see. However, remember, that's bared metal. So you don't have any kind of surface or finish barrier between the barrel itself, which is made of a carbon steel, and the aluminum. Even if you were to use an aircraft grade aluminum, what you wouldn't want to do because you needed to be a little punky junk in order for it to do what it's supposed to do. The Sabo goes down, cupping the bullet. When it leaves the barrel, all of those little pedals are supposed to be pulled back by air resistance and it opens up, releasing the projectile as the Sabo falls back like a first stage rocket and then just flutters to the ground. It takes longer for me to talk about it than it does for it to happen. But you could do that with other materials. Wood works, and wood wouldn't be too difficult, but again, what you'd want to do is put basically what are cleat notches on the outside and allow for a certain amount of material to be taken away so that when the wind resistance hits the fingers, the individual point where you did the cleat cut on the outside the SABO, the individual pedals would bend like a hinge at that point where you did the seration. That seration has to be in each one of the pedals, each one of the little clutches that nest the bullet. But they also, of course, work as a retro rocket like air brake on a jet. All they do is put a piece of metal out and it works as an air brake. That's basically what all four of those little or five of those little pedals are that hold the bullet. They are like air brakes, but only for the for the for the SABO, not in any way to interfere with the movement of the bullet. So wood, aluminum, plastic, any polymer. Phonolytic plastic could be used also, which again is bean plastic or soy plastic. And that would be readily available anywhere that could be made any place. And that's again, George Washington Carver, that was an invention that he came up with. You know, the black inventor, George Washington Carver, the phenolic slash soy plastics, that was his niche. By the way, Edison and Ford, they all knew each other. And so the Carver. Anyway, let's see what else do we have here real quick. We still have plenty of time. Any other questions? Anybody else? Go ahead, jump in there, please. I don't worry. We've been bouncing around, but we were on SABOS and we're on armor penetration. Doesn't have to necessarily go fastest in order for it to do the job. No, let me point something out. Go ahead, jump in there, Collar. Yes, sir. Some time ago at Para Arena, there was a family that sold ammunition. I know you know him, but I won't mention names. Anyway, he sold ammunition that went strictly to the police. And on that, the bullet was a coating. It was like a varnish or a shellac, but it was a lot harder. It would go through the jail three-fourths of the way through a jail block. Do you have any idea what that coating could have been? Wow, there could be any number of different, you know, it's funny, it sounds weird, but it could, I doubt it's a wax, but it could be one of the eans of some kind because what happens, okay, this is like I mentioned before about molten metal, with any of the surfacing materials that you can provide, In transit, when the bullet is moving, they're collecting calories because of the wind resistance, the air resistance, as they pass through the air. It's only a matter of seconds, moments, depending on range, moments if it's short range. But what happens is the material actually activates and liquefies to a degree in flight or becomes at least malleable, in other words like a buddy. What happens is it literally becomes a lubricant for the projectile. Now remember the projectile is not going downrange straight and true, it's spinning. So you literally have a boring process going on and depending upon the type of material that it hits, The lubricant, for instance, if it's Kevlar, what it does is it allows for the bullet face to find the path of least resistance, typically between the first layer, although it might shear through that first layer of Kevlar, the first sheet. But what it does is it allows, it literally wets, that's the best way to maybe describe it so you can understand this, and allows for the penetrator, the tip of the bullet, to actually separate more efficiently and glide through the material. Now with hard plate, it pretty much does the same thing. So it may seem like it would be something more sophisticated. I mean, there is, oh, come on, Teflon, but the Teflon doesn't look like you see the Teflon that you see on your pans at home. Okay, although you really don't, the surface you see isn't the Teflon, it's actually clear. What's interesting about that and the other material is part of the bonding stock with Teflon. That's the browns, the tans, whatever it is, the color that's underneath the primary surfacing. But remember of all the bullets that actually was pulled and it wasn't the Sabos that were pulled, it was the, remember Smith and Wesson made Nieklad. Do you remember Nieklad bullets? No sir, I don't. Okay, you can look these up once we're done with the program. Guys, for everybody else out there listening, NYCLAD. Now, NYCLAD wasn't meant to be a penetrator, okay? Do you have an indoor range? Do you have a problem with lead in an indoor range? Smith and Wesson has come up with a wonderful new idea. NYCLAD ammunition. ICLAD upon impact stretches and actually works to encapsulate your lead projectiles so that there is no lead spalled or dust in the impact area, making for a more efficient impact area and preventing lead contamination indoors. But guess what it did? It worked like the proverbial Teflon bullet. and the nyclad projectiles would go right through body armor slick as a goose. And here's the thing, they were half the price of most of the other bullets out there. They were still more expensive than reloads, but they were supposed to be range ammo. They made them in 9mm Parabellum, 357 Magnum, 38 Special, and 380 Auto, and then even in 32. But all of a sudden they pulled them because well somebody bought that cheaper ammo and started shooting at people wearing body armor I would assume that was the police, you know the police that were being shot at and It was discovered that the knife-clad ammunition did exactly what we're talking about it. It did a glidy through So it's possible that it could have been one of the nylon slash nylon clad coverings that you know or surface things that they came up with. Now the Nieklad bullets were still lead which is really bizarre because they weren't jacketed. I mean they would have been encapsulated partially otherwise. So this was a cheaper solution, was using a polymer to you know to surface the bullet. It looks black okay if you ever went into them they're in a blue and white box, Smith and Wesson and it's Nieklad. If you do have them, don't waste them, don't just shoot them. They work, they work just fine. Hang on to them and keep them for a special day when the time comes. Because they will, I don't, now, steal, I don't think we're going to have the same effect. But that's where the other material you're talking about, if it was designed to go through at least interference metal, example, go through a car door, go through a window, go through the inside car panel, and still get to something. That's one of the other reasons they make AP. or make a penetrator type bullet because they want to shoot you in your car. After all, you're probably in the car and they wanted to write you a $25 ticket, but if they can shoot you, they will. So AP is a justification because they got to get through to the soft, chewy stuff on the inside, you. But it probably works just as well with Kevlar in reverse order. Any woven Kevlar or compression Kevlar, these types of projectiles will perform reasonably well. At the very least, it will make everybody a lot more nervous. Okay? But as far as that surfacing, go ahead. I'm sorry. How about Freon? Would that be the help? I don't know. I've never expressed. You see, that's one of the things we haven't done. I've done AP in a lot of different ways. But I've not used any other materials like that. I don't know how we could get Freon to stay. I mean, we can get it to, well, I don't know what is bonding, I don't know what is bond rating is when it comes to malleable materials or you know, to, it has, what the health discus, the area the material has to be, like it does have another coating on it. For anything that's cheap off the shelf would be worth experimenting with, but I don't know that you'd be able to retain it. I'd have to actually see what it does. Because Freon, you're talking about there's a refrigerant, right? Well, it was a lubricant on parts. It was wet. Okay, then that's where it's in. Okay, that's where it's encased in. Yeah, but it's a lubricant. So it's still in usually some form of grease medium, right? It's in some form of wax medium. Well, the problem with that is again, it, yeah, unless it hardens, okay, like when you apply it, it takes, if it doesn't take, then chances are it's going to sloth off in flight within the first three to five feet. Okay, just simply policy. Plus the other problem you have, remember with the first rule, lubricants and powder and primer don't mix. So the problem you have there is it's not the Freon as a lubricant, although it depends on what it's granular, you know, what is its composition. I have to see how it's materially put together. But the carrier petroleum product is most likely fine enough that it would permeate the canelier or it would permeate the primer pocket. See the problem? So whatever you use, it's got to be stable. It cannot have the ability to commute. through it, you know, through contact surfaces where two materials bind together, you know, bullet to, bullet to primer, you know, bullet to case, primer to primer to case, because the lubricant will follow the path of least resistance, always. It will find a way through. It's penetrating oil. At one point or another, it's still a fuel well product, and that's where you've got to be, that's where you have to be where. Wax is a borderline. Paraffin will probably not cause an issue. But once again paraffin is so light in in terms of its cook point that only in fact even the the round The charge probably is going to start melting it. It would probably mostly be gone As it's moving down the barrel. There'd be very little value at the other end That's why it has to be relatively stable and but it still has to be flexible enough to that it can uniformly surface the core bullet, whatever you're using, the core projector, because that's what it's doing. We're getting that bullet to the target. But whatever it is you're going to apply, one of the techniques, for instance, is to create harbinger rings, kind of like a gasket. and that material is going to in fact be impacted by the rifling but it won't be sheared by the rifling by the lands and grooves. However, the material as it heats up and moves down downrange it distributes itself along the forward surface areas or side surface areas and then on impact it's still, although the bullet has to most of the plowing, Once it's separating the material, then the agent, whatever you're using, becomes again still a lubricant because the bullet is, while we're talking about forward motion, the bullet is spinning. So centrifugal force is creating distribution of the material uniformly and introducing new material progressively as the penetration takes place. Which is, this is too much, it's a tiny thing doing a lot of mechanical work all at once. It's still most efficient to go either with a penetrator That obviously is a dissimilar material Example is for years. I'll tell ya, in fact, I just found three more pouches of them I collected. We used to get Victrola needles for nothing. There were millions of them out there. I used that to make 380 RAP rounds for body armor. We take the Victrola needle, we drill a hole in in jacketed soft point rounds, we'd center it, we had a jig, and then we would insert after heating up mildly because the drill hole that we make would be smaller, and we'd take the Victrola needle and move it down through, press it like a little baby arbor press, and we'd press that down into the 380 round, and what's cute is because it was a flat nose soft point, When you press the Victrola needle down, remember that a soft point like that, the base is solid. Well, I knew when it got to the point where I had resistance that I'd achieved the center point and it was faced to the bottom of the jacket. When you push that down range, even with a 380 Auto, the back of the case shoves that needle, which is a case hardened steel, right straight through threat level two armor like it's, you know, there's not even there. And you could do that with any number of different materials, but what was really cool was those little big curling needles were already, they were case hardened, they were hard chrome, made back when we really knew how to use them. Really, it was real chrome, guys. And they were sharp as a needle, literally. But they started out at more than the dimension of a pencil, of a pencillet. And in all the testing we did, they worked every time. And they also operated the weapon because you didn't do anything to change the bullet. You also made sure that it nested properly so that the tip wasn't longer than the normal round or the standard round-nose ball round. And so it loaded in the magazine, operated flawlessly, and did what it was supposed to be. Anyway, remember, they're wearing armor. Aim for the cry. I already told you this before guys. You know what? Just a lot of work. Why don't we just aim for cutting your life cut? Alright? God bless our Republic. Yes, for the new world order. We shall prevail ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. And we are on the march, both day and night. I thought that was an escape from New York. We're gonna escape from the program here and Liberty Tree Radio. Ed taken over. We'll be back tomorrow at the same time. God bless you all. Stay focused. You are the solution and we're going to war. Bye bye.