Constitution, you know the right to bear arms is because that's the last form of defense against tyranny Not to hunt to protect yourself from the police anybody that wants to disarm me can drop dead Anybody that wants to make me unarmed and helpless people that want to literally create the proven Places where more innocents are killed called gun-free zones. We're gonna beat you We're gonna vote you out of office or suck on my machine. Yes, all back politicians. Yeah, okay If you get any blunt objects together, alright? If you get cornered, bash him in the head. That seems to work out. Keep together, stay sharp, and follow me. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost. You're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. 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In Australia, some battles have been lost, but the war is not over. Yet. And you did it with the backing of the silent majority of who are these faceless people and what right the slam lead. Well I guess you really have support of your modern new age mates as they walk by the lake of rabbits along the coastlines of our state. But don't ever try and tell me what you try to do with right. very same restrictions our poor barbers chose to fight. And I'm not a violent mate to never do no harm but I'll be damned false if I don't want my country to starve. So I'm asking all our leaders now with all sincerity, if you the hell gave you the right to take the guns from me. 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Also on AM&FM micro stations, CB Bay stations, and UltraNet Hallmark and Golden Spike technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. It is, I believe, 5, 10 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. It is the best day of the week. Well, everybody likes guns. But it's Communications Tuesday. It is the 22nd of June. It is the 13th year of open, obvious, and in-your-face, Fabian socialist and Soviet socialist occupation of America with a K. 2021, older calendar, 2021, battle for the republic, dance of swords. And much of stuff really interesting going on. But first and foremost, there are a couple of companies out there that do have SKS's. Now they may be out almost as quick as they got them in. And I don't know what happened. It's interesting. I went back over to Atlantic firearms and went to the SKS's and it says sold out. Now, it's something weird about their paid sometimes. So go check it out. You guys want to give me a thumbs up on or a thumbs down on this one. That's great because maybe it's just the system I'm using and how it doesn't want to read something. It could happen. The garbage that makes up the internet right now and the software undercurrents and all the BS, back door garbage, has mucked up any regular operations and service intentionally. That's part of secret weapons for silent wars, to waste your time. We understand that. It's why, like I said, you'll notice more and more we're away from all the conventional internet and over on Alcroft, Net Hallmark, Golden Spike. and other systems and we're bare bones on any of the nonsense run by the people that are your enemy. It's that simple. So, we're doing work here and like a lot of the guys when you're being selected, even with all the stuff that is on the enemy internet, because that's what it is, enemy run internet. You can select and walk away from a lot of the woke politically correct agendas and plug in and be doing 100% or more of what you were doing. Double even, 200%. But it's interesting that hiccups, failures, blackouts, it's all third world crap. You do understand that, right? From the country that bought you brought you the Apollo program and the man on the moon as they claim and all the other fun stuff And before you know before internet ARPA net remember ARPA net you don't know that some of you old enough you remember that ARP a net if you're a military You especially know that ARP a net was the bridge when the supply system of the Department of Defense wanted to interlock all of the property disposal sites. And it was a big stellar leap forward that a guy in, say, a sulfurage air force base in Michigan could pick up a keyboard, punch in a location, and know exactly how many gas masks were everywhere in the country, and you could reference and find out and route them. request, do all your paperwork, but you knew where to look and you knew where it was, you knew exactly how many there were. That was a total change in supply, which by the way the Jewish mob, the Oiboys, hated at first, but they've used it as a way to strip and bear naked the system and rape, kill, pillage, and burn all of your tax dollars. So that's a plus and minus. For them, they didn't really like it because now there was a lot more accountability from angles they never expected, from obliques. Other people could monitor. We can't have that. Oi, my yamakal is spinning. All of a sudden you might figure out what I was stealing. You know where I'm stealing it too. You know where the money went. Oi, I'm telling you we can't have this. Oi, we need to make it more secret and privacy. Oi, that's exactly what's going on. So anyway. In the supply system, there are a number of companies that have the SKS's. Some have had them for under $400, actually $399, and sold out immediately. Needless to say, I think we can understand why. A couple have had them for $359, and again, it looks like they're up mostly, although again, I need to find out. This is something weird going on with Atlantic that I'm missing, because I went last night a couple of times, and I kept getting the end result. Now, lots of ammo. This is why the SKS has got scarfed up. If you're going to end up buying a 7.62x39 rifle, but you don't want to really commit to a whole new batch of everything, you know, the SKS is perfect in this respect, as I've told you a million times. Everything is attached to the gun. You can't lose the magazine. You have a 10-shot magazine, which is reasonable capacity for a defense rifle. And again, you can accept it. Folding bayonet, can't lose that. Spring-loaded enclosure in the rear for your cleaning kit gets minimal, but it does exactly what it's supposed to do, where it's supposed to do it. And a cleaning rod underneath the barrel. All self-contained. A hand-together rifle, you get all of that. You give the eye that rifle and a combat load, like a chest pouch with a whole bunch of goodies, and you're ready to fight. At the very least for security operations, radio operators, medical support personnel, units that aren't going to be fighting all the time but if they got to put some firepower down range and they need lots and lots of bullets, it's cheaper at 29, 30, 31, 35, 36 cents a round than it is 70, 80, 90 cents a round for 5.56 or the same price for 9 millimeter which is ludicrous, okay? So the 7.62 now becomes more logical around the fire, which means we're going to put a bigger, faster bullet down range, hotter bullet, for less money. That's wonderful! Don't you like that? I know I like that. If I got to fight somebody, if I can put a bigger bullet down range for less money, and I got more firepower, so to speak, there, boom, boom, boom, boom, big, big, big. Well, that's kind of nice. So the SKSs are definitely still a good choice. They're not $69 anymore, but if you had to go out and build them, they would cost more than a few hundred dollars to make. Well, it depends. CNC would bring that down. We're already experimenting with that. We should be able to do a cold turkey SKS, minimal, and it's all CNC production. What's kind of funny is it's worth it to actually make a machine, you know, out of billet rather than doing a forging and go from there. So... That's where they're looking. That's what they're experimenting with right now. Still, there's a lot of barrels out there and other parts. So you wouldn't have to make as much for the weapon. And what's beautiful about the SKS is there's a lot of aftermarket parts, which saves you a lot of trouble and even, you know, things that you can do to pare down. Let me give you an example real quick on the SKS. If I was building it, what's the first thing I could skimp on? Well, I could eliminate the original Russian iron sights. I could go with a picatinny rail and go with whatever short iron sight or optics I want to. Now I know people are going, Mark, I wouldn't take them off my regular rifle. No, we're talking a wartime production gun that could be minimized and maximize the process. Number one, the SKS could have a longer basket type flash hider put on it, kind of like a baby version of the SVD. No, it's not a tack driving sniper rifle, but it can be made into a marksman's weapon. And by shaving off weight in one area, you can afford to put a little weight in the other. Polymer stocks, why? Only because the wood stocks would cost more money even though they're tactically and strategically they are a non-critical material wood. But polymer stocks are all over the place for nothing for the S-gas. So if I was actually cranking out a bunch of S-gas, I'd try to first get some examples of everything out there. And then I'd be looking at making the cheapest but heaviest gauge polymer stock that would be standard for my both Scrednadier SKS, although it would actually be a little better quality. What I really do like are the Skeleti stocks that look like the SVD. We put those on a lot of different 20 inch SKS's. You might recall, this is weird, you remember they went both ways, the Chinese brought in some 22 inch SKS rifles, carbines, forgive me. But they were long barrels and everybody wondered why'd they do that? Well, they obviously had some barrels laying around. I don't think they made new. I think they had a production run for something that might have been an experimental run where they may have had a couple hundred thousand, maybe only had seven, eight, ten thousand. When the Chinese were dumping stuff into the US, they were surprised that you guys wanted this stuff. They remember when they first brought the SKS and AKA remember it was black. You know always black Talking to the guys on the other side. They thought well you Americans you know what I got AK-47 or SKS you want a back rifle like M16 and The guys had to go back over explain to them. No, no, no, no, no, no, no Everybody wants this SKS or AK because it's the kind of gun you sent to the Vietnamese to shoot at us And there's nostalgia going on here. You know, ah So all of a sudden the shutdown SKS lines because they were they were in strategic reserve They actually were on standby all of a sudden they cranked him back up and most of the SKS is past the crates and crates of matching serial number guns You got like the ones with the Vietnamese the Vietnam jungle stocks Also, those were known as guards stocks, which by the way you do see those with guard units in Beijing Hey Mark. Anyway, a lot of those SKS parts guns were produced because of your demand. That's how it works guys. So again with regard to some of the other stuff you're going to run into, understand it wasn't just military application. It was the market push in the 80s and 90s that made many of those guns. Go ahead, call it. Jump in there. Hey, Will from Florida. Quick question. During the war, and even after the war, are there some older... I don't know if I've asked this before, but are there some older guns that would be considered now obsolete that are going to be remade because the idea is that they were simple when they were made? The first things that I think of are M1 Grand or maybe the simpler version of it, or an MP40, the German MP40 or Stens. or other guns that were supposed to be simple but were considered obsolete but then when you're trying to arm everybody would suddenly, simple and be considered great again. Well, you know, on that note, a reminder the Sten gun right now would be the most logical weapon to go to as a light gun. The only reason they're not is because of the Bat Faggots. I mentioned a couple weapons before they changed the law arbitrarily. Remember it used to be you could make open bolt semi-auto rifles. and they had to be 16 inch, they couldn't be short rifles, they had to be full rifles, regular stock, etc. And you could make a pistol version, just like you're seeing with the AR-15. The Wasp series of guns were a lot more sophisticated than most people might think, but the guy incorporated the latest in machine technology, including the earliest CNC, so he could really crank the things out cheap, and they were an open bolt, closest thing to an actual Thompson, which is what he made them look like. But the operation had several different features and several different submachine guns, which is typically the case. Grease gun features, stand for sure. And the big thing about the Wasp is that it was also variable geometry. He had it set up so he could pop the barrel, go from 45 to 9 millimeter, switch out the mags from Sten to Grease Gun mags and pop pop boom boom you could use the two most common rounds of military surplus ammo that was out there. Now the Sten could be done the same way and as I mentioned most logic would be whatever the most common magazine available today would be the one chosen and right now it would be Glock. If I were doing a Sten it would be Glock mags. It doesn't make any difference if I like or dislike Glock it would be Glock mags. Another gun that would be resurrected almost immediately, everybody's got the prints for, everybody knows what to do, is a 5.56 or whatever government cartridge is being used. If they go over to the new cartridge, it's not a big deal to make a Volkssturm type gun that would be in that caliber and it would be available immediately. What it would do is destroy the colonial concept that they're pushing with the new caliber chains. They want to try and make sure that the peasants don't have the weapon and ammunition and don't have compatibility, which is why in the middle of what is a kind of a quasi-depression slash just before war, all of a sudden, government wants to change out calibers. It has nothing to do with war fighting overseas. It has to do with their fear of the American people and the American supply system. However, there were two designs, and both of them worked flawlessly with end-of-the-war production In fact, they were the VG assault rifles. They used to call them, I notice everybody's changed the vocabulary. Of course they always do when you wait long enough and everybody dies. They used to be called beer can guns because one of them was made in a beer can plant. But we've got to remember beer cans back then weren't the punkie junk you have now. You couldn't crush an old beer can from World War II on your forehead, dudes. In fact, that's the one thing I gotta point out in platoon. Hey, hey, Lou LT, watch this. And he crushes a can of his head. You weren't doing that in Vietnam. Have you ever pulled a can out from Vietnam, a Stros can? Or a PBR can? Dudes, you can build stuff with those. When you fixed an exhaust system with those, they were fixed. Not like the punka junk crap if you have to strap it on nowadays. Anyway, fact of the matter is that these two guns were actually, the whole production lines were brought over to Aberdeen Proving Ground. Aberdeen Proving Ground set them up. Aberdeen Proving Ground cranked them out. Aberdeen Proving Ground tested them and all of the tests were flawed. The thing was stupid, simple. It was cheap to make, almost as cheap as the Sten gun. I think the cost could have been, they estimated the cost for this rifle would have gone down to about $5.75 American. Now what this was, was a retarded gas system. Both designs were again designed to be compression positive, wear positive, so they really wouldn't be fixed, you know, wear it, wouldn't need to be fixed. And when they finally died, the logic was chuck it to the side and build another one or hand out another one in the same model. It's very unlikely anybody would ever do that because the quality of the product back then was 10 times what you see, but most things built, they're built nowadays. And that was the last ditch gun. However, Aberdeen proved that the guns A could be built with American processes easily. The guns were cheaper. You could buy about maybe, what, 25 of them versus one M16. It was, it ill-classed the AK in terms of cost efficiency comparable to the AK in terms of reliability. Not quite as nice, but guess what? You're buying how many guns for the price of what? And it was not a pistol cartridge, it was in a rifle, the 8mm Kurz, which means 5.56, 7.62x39, or any of the other light rifle cartridges, even .30 carbine, the rifle could have been built in it. They argued that that would be an excellent, you know, national defense package to have ready to go. Government made those two designs disappear. Period. So we know that they work and they work well. Now you just need to understand how they work. So look up the Volksgrenadier rifles, end of the war. The two VG rifles that are most common are easy to pick out. They use an MP44 mag. Obviously you'd be using an AR15 mag. If you went to 7.62x39 you'd be using a hanger system just like you do on the AK. and it wouldn't be a big deal to adapt. Remember AKs are crude. Well, guess what? This rifle is too. So tack welding on a magazine catch and a pivot and putting a pivot on the bottom of the tube for the receiver would be nothing. The Garand would take more work. But if you prioritize machining technology, let me give you an example. That VG rifle, it's all stamping and sheet metal. So it goes to a production category that's in the B grade. The scan gun goes into the B grade. If you have CNC machining technology surviving, and we in theory should have some, you could crank out the Garand or an M1A rifle in sufficient numbers to make it useful. Now would the OTT-6 be preferred over the .308? The OTT-6 is not an orphan round per se, but it is a It is a post-present use cartridge and that makes it one of the transition rounds that you would use during the war. We might decide to embrace it again or we may choose another caliber by the time we get to the end of the war for the MBR's main battle rifles. I would not go down to where they are right now. I would stay in the 30 caliber range for a number of different reasons, not the least, which was the number one excuse for the last 70 years. Hell, or no, 100 years. Well, it's 30 caliber. Yeah, we've been making a lot. Yeah. Why don't we just make more? Sure. Should we change something else? No. What did that do? 100 years worth of commonality of ammunition. You know, that's part of the issue. Logistics, logistics, logistics. Does that mean I'm gonna use a cartridge from a hundred years ago? No, but in 1941 we did We used ammunition from 40 years ago 30 years ago 25 years ago We sent it to the Pacific we used it on the on the coast We handed out ammunition that was pre-world war one to the the coastal defense forces because we knew that least it would chamber and it would go downrange and as long as it went pop Then you somebody might get killed. Hopefully not the operator because it shouldn't be a problem So that's another consideration is if you're not trying to fawn to the national defense mechanism, there's a whole bunch, and right now that's all we're doing. The big thing, and not even national defense, it's international arms, okay? Just people selling this crap, half of which we really, really don't need or isn't really all that good. But in the main battle rifle category, because superiority and range with firepower is kinda nice. In addition to that, light rifles, as I pointed out, existing patterns would be available virtually by the millions. Let's understand that in a great war afterwards, typically all the next wars after that, little ones and big ones, are fought with the leftovers for quite a few years. We are still, in the year 2021, buying surplus from World War II that started in 1941 for us. I'm not saying for the rest of the world, I'm talking about just us. Well guys, do the math on that. We're using inventory that's 60 years old. You can still go to any one of these surplus companies and you're finding M1 carbine. Oh, where'd you put M1 carbine bags from World War II? Well, it had to be made between 1941 and 1945. Do the math. We still have surplus ammunition coming out. And let's just say it's Korean era. If it's Korean era, well, let's see, 56, oh God, that is 60 years old. So again, the idea of you picking a common caliber, just like the Russians did, but we did it in a more sophisticated way than the Russians. The Russians want the crudest, but most logical for a slave-oriented production facility with crude, rude, and shoe-sized IQ personnel after you've killed off all the real people who could think. Just think about that one. That's the only reason they went the way they did because Stalin and Trotsky slash David Levi Brownstein and Beria and All the rest of the kosher turds that were executing as many goyam as they could well Guess what they were the ones that were thinking and actually had the IQ isn't aware with all that actually run equipment So guess what everything went in the toilet including their metallurgy by the way Just something about what they're gonna try to do here are actually doing here right now New math, I mean just think about that new math because after all we've got to have this equity not you know, not equality Ask what a thing we're gonna give you the job even though you don't have a clue how to type We're gonna send you to college for two years You probably won't pass but we're gonna give you the job anyway you be fully qualified because we said you are while the person was all ready to work and Work your ass off to get to you know, be ready to jump off all piss on them So we're going to reverse that, but we're in the process and we will be building up technicians and technology in the process too, which is another important thing, is trades need to be prioritized. When my dad was in the Navy, when he went into World War II, he was already, he'd been in Tool and Die. Remember I mentioned this before. He actually, before the war, was in Tool and Die. And that's high precision trade, guys. Now, when the Navy got hold of him because he went into service, where would you have put a man like that? If he was a, I mean, at least put him on a ship as a machinist, right? Wouldn't that make sense? How do you operate a lathe? Well, I don't have to guess. I know. How do you run a mill? Oh, I should be showing you. Drill press. Easy. Guess what? My dad told me it was funner hell. The kid that they made a machinist through the Navy system didn't have, ever never touched a tool in his life. Kind of like the garbage you're seeing right now. Kid didn't have a clue, had so many weeks worth of training, quote unquote, Great Lakes Naval Station for his basic, then off to whatever trade, temporary trade school, short term, so many weeks. And then they put him on the destroyer. My dad spent a whole lot of his time showing the kid how to use the machine shop. That was one of the things that he did while he was on board. And of course, in fact, you know, everybody else that could pitch in was pitching in too. Why? Well, that machine shop's supposed to keep your ship running. At least for all those small items that might become a real problem while you're at sea out in the middle of BFE, nowhere, and can't find a garage to pull up to. So there's the brainlessness of the operation. You see, my dad would end up on the ship anyway, but he would have been on the job that would have made everything a tad more efficient. And probably everybody on the ship was still running a gun at one time or another. That's kind of stupidity. You know, I've seen decades so it's I don't think that's going to change with us if we can but it means everybody's gonna get a you know fire under their ass and we're gonna start using our brains and thinking and Stop listening to the public fool system and stop listening to the worthless politicians and shoot all the stinking bankers and the only boys coming in thinking they're gonna try and backstab us from behind while we're doing all the work So that'll settle that real quick Anyway, a couple other things, it's not just the razor, it's the blades. One of the other things taken into consideration is manufacturing to produce the support technologies. Example, SKS takes a stripper clip if you're going to want to use some kind of speed. This is where the argument is, well, we can switch over to a magazine. Well, again, remember your average person that right now is getting hold of some of these weapons never handled a firearm in their life. They can quickly go from six magazines to no magazines and all of a sudden the real sophisticated and gas operated single-shot rifle. Now on the other hand if the person is inexperienced, has the probability of let's just say fight or flight, a adrenaline rush taking over as general demeanor, the attached components for the basic rifle, the SKS, are optimal. They're perfect. It's exactly what's needed so that you you attach a young inexperienced individual to an experienced man and you upgrade the performance of your unit within a very short period of time because well they don't grow on trees and you better make sure everybody is as competent as possible and that means the experienced man is riding with the novice. It's an apprentice program in infantry. And it needs to be that way in order for us to force multiply effectively. Remember the fickle finger of fate? Martillery round, mortar, air bomb, bardment, take your pick, a bullet, just to, hey, you stepped in the wrong hole. You know, Lynch bow, a little harder hit. She would have, remember, she stepped out of a Humvee that was bridging a 10 foot or a 12 foot deep, a little dry canal. She thought she was stepping off the ground. She jumped out of the Humvee and had no preparation. Busted her hiding it up and all she did was drop with dead weight She had body armor on and she had web gear and she stepped out of that Humvee and busted her ass up She never fired a shot. She never did anything that they claimed. She did except lay there and groan The Iraqis captured because she couldn't move and she couldn't move. I mean she did move one time She got a Humvee she fell. So there's an example. I'm gonna get shot or I'm gonna get blowed up Guys, there's a hundred million ways you can get hurt stepping out your front porch today, right now. All of those apply to the battlefield. Period. Every way you could possibly break a leg, smack a nose, bump a head, which is why we try to add more safety gear on top of everything else. We don't expect you to live like that in regular life. But when you're in a war zone, it's kind of compounded with people trying to fold, spindle, and mutilate you. Okay? Now another thing about the again components and this has to do with as we were just talking about commonality Remember that if you can produce a particular component and a base production line model that allows you to Trim alter or reset, you know redye in a certain way Only one aspect of that component then that means you can make more for less time in production Just something to think about there The reason I bring this up is there's an argument about, and I know how it is, man, I gotta have a magazine-fed pistol. Why? Well, because of more ammo. Really? Okay, and what is that gonna do for us? Go read all of the reviews, and I mean realistic numerical reviews of the difference between cops with revolvers and cops with automatic weapons. Cops with semi-automatic pistols. We call them automatics, right? Well, if you look at how many rounds are fired for hits on target, okay, there might be a little improvement with one person over another and maybe at point blank range every once in a while the guy dumps 16 rounds right into a corpse, okay. But for the most part, the only thing that giving a semi-automatic pistol to the cops did was increase the amount of tax dollars it takes to reload the gun. It didn't improve marksmanship. It didn't improve hits on target. In fact, just the reverse. When everybody knew they needed to aim to hit, amazingly enough, they can put that .357 Magnum on your ass, you know, boom, and be done. And guess what? Probably hurt a lot. Just in case, I'll give you another one. Hold still. Whereas otherwise, and I have too many people I know, I've known for decades, okay? I'm not young anymore. Decades! And they just flat out said, man, I remember pulling the trigger, dropping the first mag, and I remember then stopping on, oh, wait a minute, the sixth mag. And I don't remember anything in between. For that amount of firepower in a direct confrontation in Detroit with a Smith & Wesson Model 59, 11 hits on two targets. What? Yeah, 9 millimeter. Okay, do the math. There were three rounds or four rounds left in the magazine, number six. But you're talking one of the tube, a full magazine, and then five other magazines going into the weapon and him just blazing away. And you know what the contact area was? We're talking through a fence at about something like 15 to 20 feet in pre-dawn light. Guy next to him is using a shotgun. He willed every shell he had away at these two characters on either side of the fence. Two cops, a salt and pepper black and white guy with a pistol and a shotgun. A cop with a pistol and a shotgun. And the guy makes 11 hits on two targets. Where'd all the rest of those bullets go? I know it's pretty impressive. I would love to have had that in recording. But what's amazing is one thing that's true, his instinct and training did take over with regard to dropping the mag, inserting the mag, operating the gun. He doesn't remember it, but he did it through muscle memory. Okay, so we gotta admit that muscle memory is a good thing. Problem, how did he take the target down by the way? No, as a matter of fact, hitting the two targets, the only thing that took the one down was part of a shotgun shell, a buckshot load. Again, point blank range, it knocked the guy back and he still got up and moved a few feet and then dropped down again. The other guy got up after getting hit multiple times and by the way, the guys that were shooting, they had holes in their coats, the cops did or the guy, you know, both of the Detroit cops did. Holes in their coats, hole in the shoe, crease in the side of the shoe, everywhere, but no solid hits on anything. And the guy, one guy who took multiple hits and one hit, bullet right to the middle of the forehead and went right over the skull, split the scalp in two and the guy still picked up, turned around, ran off into the darkness. Wow, that's a firefight. So heads up, and by the way, it's nine millimeter, and at that time they had to carry ball ammunition because they had to carry reliable ammunition and ball was considered reliable, soft point was not, but they changed that with the Detroit cops. back and forth for years and years. Somebody goes, we're going to do this. They had to sell a point. Yeah, for two years. And then everybody said, you know how the leftists go, they're using homoplane ammunition and soft point hunting ammo to show people in Detroit. So they went back to ball ammo. And then they said, oh my God, using armor, piercing ammo. So they went back to soft point ammo. See how this monkey screw goes? Oh, by the way, they had to buy a new ammo in the process, which is really great for somebody selling ammo to the cops in Detroit. Well, the police department, not the cops in Detroit, the police department. Just something heads up there. Anyway, the idea here is if you've got somebody you're training, the objective is to slow them down to focus for a period of time and then build up their proficiency. This is one of the advantages of a restricted rifle. Well, we're in the age of fully automatic fire. Yeah, but it's not doing you any good if the person isn't truly contributing. to a point of impact. Everybody's contributing because they're making noise. See, there's levels of what are you getting out of the deal? Man, he's blazing away, dude. He's full auto and this, I think he hit that monkey four blocks away. I think he hit the parrot up there on the other telephone pole. The monkey's still hanging under his little cup. He's up there in that other telephone pole. God, he's up there. Anyway, everything but the guy you're shooting at or people you're shooting at. The objective is first to get the person focused and sustaining the fire and putting the fire generally where it needs to be. As proficiency is demonstrated, the team leader, your fire team leader or squad leader, and your platoon leader are going to decide the proficiency of the individual. If the man is a classic marksman, you're going to try to put him on a heavier weapon. That still has maybe just some auto potential But you want to see how far this person can reach now because he's putting bullets on target every time tag boom tag boom tag boom Down down down. Well that person I he's not having to spray and pray he can look at a target. He stays cool He's focused what's around where it's supposed to switch his target does it again? That's what you're supposed to be paying attention to on the other hand some people will never will never will never have any accuracy incorporated into whatever they're putting into their shoulder. Now that's where automatic fire comes in. In fact, the person, that might be an excellent choice for a guy to put behind the squad automatic weapon. Spray, not so much prey, but suppression fire and cones of destruction. So you don't care if he's a little sloppy. Why? Because you want a little sloppy. 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You know, you find one, the supply system was kind of, you know, rife with material. And in many cases, the guys would just pay the, you know, pay the arm around to the table, maybe with the rifle they picked up out of the field. And then they'd get a couple, two, three, or four of those control keys, and they'd have them in their pocket. Whenever they wanted to they could click themselves. So they might as well have had a selector switch in theory, right? Well preferably they needed to restrict. I don't know Mark. 20 rounds in a box magazine disappears pretty fast on auto fire. Exactly and that's one of the other problems is again it was a main battle rifle cartridge with a different mission and that's the other thing you got to remember guys is you're buying penetration and range. If you bought an MDR, why do I want an M1A that's got a 14 or 16 inch barrel on it? And I sure as hell don't want an M1A slash M14 as a pistol. It's the same with the AR-10. The AR-10 is a fine, accurate range rifle. Now I don't say range is in rifle range. I'm talking as in specifically achievable range in an environment where you want supremacy. You don't want equity. You want supremacy. That's your mission with regard to all of your weapons. And again with a combined arms team, it doesn't mean you're not going to spray and pray. You're going to, in fact, as I mentioned many times, one of the techniques is to make up two light rifle sections in a platoon. Two rifle squads that are light rifle. One that is heavy, as in either GRAMs, M1As, FNFALs, HK91s, take your pick. And then the fourth platoon, depending upon what your formation is, is your weapons section with belt-fed weapons you've accumulated and other things of that nature. If the organization you're with chooses to control the crew-served weapons, or I should say team weapons and crew-served weapons, they're going to put them into a weapons platoon. And that fourth platoon could be either a light rifle or preferably another heavy. What this gives you is two tiers or umbrellas of very different firepower. Psychologically, remember we've talked about this, you want to give them the pop, pop, boom, boom. Everybody can tell the difference between a 308 and an 0x6 or a 7.62x39. I'm free me. 30.06, 7.62x51 NATO, and say a 5.56 round, okay? And or 7.62x39. When you hear ARs, there's a comfort zone. But on the battlefield when you start hearing a whole squad budding with 308s or grams, it is a very different sound. And it's also known that it means there is a very different and much more efficient penetration level coming down range at you. Things you thought you could hide behind you won't necessarily be able to hide behind with safety So it's not really as much cover as originally it might have provided against the light rifles Now the big thing here again is yeah, you can punch through things with the light rifles especially and you've got some heavier bullets for the 5 5 6 but the problem Is you still have lost a lot of energy and you've only got half the bullet there that you got with that 30 caliber round So even if that 30 caliber round goes through that tree or that slug of wood or that chunk of whatever might be in front of you or that plastine wall, when it gets through the other side, it's got both weight and still reasonable velocity. And that combination is what makes for an effective hit when the time comes. And no matter what everybody says, there's always this debate will be going on forever, so let's just live with it this way. We know we're going to have 5.56, 7.62 by 39. main battle rifle cartridges up the wazoo. In addition we've got 300 blackout we've got a whole bunch of other new light rifle calibers that are going to be integrated into this they don't have any real great performance over the 5.56 the 300 blackout probably the best for its size but again remember the issue is what does it do at greater and greater ranges the 300 blackout is an excellent round But again, what are its potentials? In other words, if you were rated and integrated into a team, how would you use it? Because you've got to start sculpting your firepower. We've got to be better than the enemy. We have the thinkers, they've got the stinkers. So you need to all be thinking ahead and how am I going to sculpt the unit? Now look at World War II. You had M1 grands, oh wow. Superior fire power in many ways, but most important is range and accuracy. Everybody had a micro-adjustable site on a combat weapon. Show me, anybody else, the British had a few, but the lion's share of their guns were no different from any of the other Euro weapons that were the crude and rude sites that were available. Okay, the V notch, barley corn, or dot and circle. V notch and post with circle etc. Take your pickles through the inventory But the US gave the infantryman both of the Springfield and with the even with the infield by the way to the very American operation the American 1917 infield had micro adjustable potential and the very least for elevation if you're not familiar with them I've owned hundreds of them still do got hundreds of them tucked away in inventory and strategic reserve in caches all over the place along with a lot of other weapons like But I have hundreds of those because that was the cheapest .6 to buy for the longest time and stayed at about $65 to, you know, $70 when everything else went into hundreds. So it's like, well, what are you buying those for? Because they're American made and they're the strongest receiver out there and they're in .30-06 and I could buy .30-06 cheap. So that's the gun to buy for the moment. When they start going up in price to goofy range, no. But when they were cheap and they were American made and their spare parts were up the wazoo, every one of the Enfields I have has an extractor. You know how big an extractor is on an Enfield? Everyone has a cosmoline extractor, firing pins, and all other small components in a kit, buried with it. Times 10 or times 20 or times 30 depending on which cash it is. Why? Because it was cheap! Now the stupid price? No, no, I'm not returning there. I'm looking for the next cheap. and then you crank out a bunch of those. Then you've got really high quality or reasonable quality, and you've got a decent weapon system. The big thing here again is with the light rifles, in World War II you had the carbine, you went for the grand of the carbine, you had 45 HCT guns. In fact, the proposal was even to go to nine with, you remember the grease gun had a conversion unit. Not many people really were excited about it. The government didn't like the idea that they were changing signatures with the weapon, but a lot of our own troops are carrying whatever they could catch from the Germans, just like the Germans are capturing from us. So sound did make a difference, but in many cases they were more worried about how many weapons with lots of firepower can I collect and put in my half-track and use down the road. And is there a lot of the enemy issue to build? Does it work for the time being? Can I use it and throw it away? Yes, can I use it and throw it away and run? Oh hell yeah! Why? Because it's not one of ours. Okay. There's a bunch of reasons guys did some of this stuff. Okay, some of it was like if I got to swim the river I don't want to lose a good piece of equipment. I got a good piece of equipment. I hate throwing away the German MP40 I got, but guess what? If I'm recon I got to throw something down. I can throw that down to heartbeat. No, I got another one on the other side waiting where I came from. It's that simple. So anyway, the variety of weapons, the most important is that you try to manage them to a degree. If you have a lot of independent people that come in, especially during the cycle in process and the escalation of this war, what you need to do is know to route people. Are you committed with any group? No. How long have you been in the army? I got a 45, 1911, I got an M1 Gram, my Grandma Dad left me, or my Grandpa left me. Got about oh 2000 rounds with me got less ammo to the rear somewhere. You know the family's moving right now Okay, he's got a garand put him there put him with an m1 rifle unit Why not start building them up keep them centralized? complement each other Same is true with certain weapons. You know like I said if the individual or couple individuals are carrying the same weapons and they're independent It's your job as a platoon or a company commander or even a brigade commander. Well actually not commander It's the job of your subordinates who are helping you to properly manage, but that will be one of us and we will wear different hats at different times. So you all better get used to the idea that you're going to have to manage things so it's complementary to the overall campaign and obviously first to the fighting force that you're a part of. But every element, every aspect of what you do improves our overall deployment disposition and our potential to fight. So the better you get at it, the better off we all are. This is why you need to study the weapons systems that are out there and take a look at some of the issues and bring off both the problems and the positives and negatives so that you can properly maneuver and engineer the formations you have. You're stuck with what you have in an area. I wish I had. Yeah, wish in one hand, desiccating the other and see which one gets full first. And the fact of the matter is that whatever you have in hand, you got to manage that first. And then you take from the enemy and sculpt what you need towards your inventory so you can make your unit work better. Go ahead, caller, jump in there. Me again. So how much help could a unit, especially early war, expect from other more well-established militias without feeling like they're just basically mooching? You're not. Okay, no. When you get... Okay, understand something. Once we get into a fighting situation, you're all the same boat. The biggest thing is something that is sometimes talked about when they try to avoid. is over consumption for lack of discipline. That's the thing everybody's got to get into is discipline. And beyond that, it's going to be the, well, kind of like that joke. It's not a joke. The story of the wandering Jew. Oh, it's going to be supported by the guys out there. Well, it works the same way with regard to militia. when you're away from home or a distance from your supply base, then we already have to be thinking about integrating what is a, again, supposedly an economic solution to the ordinance problem. That's why I said cheapest for the most is first. What we need is to be able to do exactly what you're talking about. When somebody comes in, somebody can walk out and put a case of ammunition on the front porch and flag the guys down, hey, I got another case here, you need another one? And it's just logic that, well, what are they doing? Well, they're fighting the war. We're fighting the war. I'll help them and supply them. But they are going to have to have discipline. And this is where, again, there has to be a meeting of the minds. This is where we all have to become adults, rather than the panty waste garbage we're seeing right now or the effeminate crap we're seeing on the other side that's just useless. God I hate these people. I really do. We've got to save the country to save the country. We've got to fight a war for independence We got the wicked turds that are cracking on the on these these these flatly I should say well flabby-brained Yes, but these these a feminine Twilight's own dweebs that have no business being your any decision process So we are going to have to fight if we're gonna fight we better get good at it We got to get good at it now. So study study study The big thing here is again, meeting of the minds. This is where war counsels come into play, but also an understanding of what is called, as I've repeated many times, SOP, Standard Operating Procedure. There are differences in how units are run at this time. Progressively, everything will gravitate out and there will be changes in the operations progressively through the process of the conflict. On our side with regard to organization operations. consider that we're going to have to get better at moving forces farther as you start winning. Guys, the job isn't done until the states are cleaned out. And that means, well, Michigan's fine, or, you know, like, you know, Ohio is fine. Yeah, but guess what? California's still California. We got to get rid of that garbage. We still may need to reinforce either border. The Canadians are going to be cleaning out the scum up in their neck of the woods and they're going to be going to hell with reckless abandon when the time comes to get when this kicks off. They are going to be in the same dogfight. But the Patriot numbers are superior to the RCMP and the rest of the dribble that's left us up there. Very quickly they can be dealt with. But the Canadians still should be managing Canada unless we see, again, like we already know about the Chinese, a foreign influence that has to be neutralized. And if that happens, that means you have to project strength. Now, if that's the case, then immediately you have to be husbanding resources and developing management skills to be able to move logistically, you know, militarily, I mean, just, you know, across the board. Logistics is part of it. But I've talked about this many, many times. Guys, it's one thing to play on a checkerboard or on a game board. It's another thing in the real world, time and distance, time and distance, time and distance, time and distance. You have to understand, it's worse. The farther up the scale you go, the more the amoeba is, in many cases, seems unmanageable, but it must be. What I mean by the amoeba is that massive force. armor, mechanized, infantry, resources, logistics, not just for military, but to support your allies in the civilian infrastructure. Remember, it's not so much really hearts and minds. It's, you know, if you want to continue to fight, you got to make sure your people don't bleed and starve to death. So we have a series, we have obligations. The spear point must be maintained. But we are generalists. What I mean by that, oh I'm a general? No, a generalist doesn't know how to do everything and anything you possibly can. Constantly learn. Don't just watch the same damn videos tonight if you're going to go to YouTube. Go over to the mechanical end and start looking at anything and everything you can on how to. and start putting that information between your ears. That will make you an officer. That will make you a leader, a squad leader, a team leader, a platoon leader, take your pick, a sergeant or an officer in commissionment through the militia process, not through the traitors in DC. More on that in a minute. By the way, we gotta go, because we are at the top for the moment, guys. And if you gotta use the bathroom, go to the bathroom, you gotta get a cup of coffee, go grab a cup of coffee. But we are gonna hear the music. And for everybody out there, it is Communications Tuesday. I think we have been communicating at you to a degree here today. I would remind you that, again, remember logistics will also trail over into supporting the infrastructure. We've got rail, we've got to know how to use it. And if we have rail, we need to expand it. Anyway, that's just one of many problems and issues we may have to address immediately. God bless our republic. Death to the New World Order. We shall prevail ladies and gentlemen the Empire is on the run and we are on the March post day and night. U-Brol! If you were slash, if you didn't get on hard, don't let them get back up when they try, beat them down again, turn them into mud. We're going to take a break, we'll be back. Liberty Street Radio, it's Tuesday. part of our Constitution. You know, the right to bear arms is because that's the last form of defense against tyranny, not to hunt, to protect yourself from the police. Anybody that wants to disarm me can drop dead. Anybody that wants to make me unarmed and helpless, people that want to literally create the proven places where more innocents are killed called gun-free zones, we're going to beat you, we're going to vote you out of office, or suck on my machine gun. Look, okay, just get any blunt objects together, alright? If you get corners, bash them in the head, that seems to work out. Kick together, stay sharp and follow me. I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his... His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat. Speaking low to me, he said, we fought a revolution for liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost. You're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You vie permits to travel and permits to own a gun. permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number and you've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn holds they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children will be. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for what you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God-given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke he'd vanished in the mist for once he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each god-given right, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in the dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave, is to still the land of the free? are inconsistencies and unique methods that make us the most effective fighting force in the earliest stages of the up-and-coming conflict. One of the reasons? You are unpredictable. Always remember that. Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. This is the second hour of the afternoon intelligence report. I'm Mark Hernke. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories southwest east Northeast and South Ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to us on Liberty Tree Radio dot 4 mg calm Liberty Tree radio and satellite and we are naming FM micro stations CB base stations and ultra net hallmark in golden spike technologies east and west of the Mississippi along the Malaska time 608 p.m. Eastern Standard Time It is Communications Tuesday Okay, and it is the 22nd of June it is the 13th year of open Fabian socialist and Soviet Socialist Occupation of America with the K 2021 Old Earth Calendar 2021 Battle for the Republic The Dance of Swords Let the dance begin Let the battle be joined Again, diversification, different ideas means that as an intelligence analyst you are a very bad mess to deal with Oh, no, that's bullshit. Okay, number one. No, you're not an EU pushover. In fact, because of the many different techniques and organizations that are applied right now. It is impossible to effectively lay a strategy down for engagement of what our conventional militia forces until such time as we become, let's say, more regimented, which is something we need to beware. We've talked about this many times over the decades. I will repeat again. If you are bringing a bunch of different people together and you're trying to form an organization, And you have a 40-man group that comes in. Have you trained together? Yes. You know, these people are, oh yeah, I've known Bob there. He has the tool shop. Been there forever. Those are half his crew. Looks like he's got some relatives here. Are you known to me? Well, I'm not going to alter what Bob's done. Bob has a platoon. Now, I hope that Bob organized Fred, Jim, George, organized a platoon in either a 10-man or whatever configuration. I prefer a 10 over 8. We've talked about that before, but I'll take whatever you got. I don't care how you've organized in that respect, but I need to know. Because your manpower strength is different if you have a, what is a, called a ghost formation where you're missing a couple of men. You went from 10 to eight. That's a ghost. That's basically because government doesn't have the manpower. It's kind of like the end of World War II. Germany had just many divisions on the ground as they did at the beginning of the war. In fact, more. But the problem is that the numbers look great on paper until you look at the physical, tangible numbers of what was available, two different worlds. That's what the Army did when they went from 10 to eight men for mechanized everything else. Now, eight for mechanized because of the lack of capacity of the vehicles that they went to. Had the Bradley. actually stayed as the McVie where the way it was originally intended. Guys, you'd have stuck to a 10-man squad and you probably would have had a couple of weapons men attached to every APC. The original intent of the McVie, the way it was built, would have moved a standard full-strength infantry squad, not a bare-bones lightened squad. And you've been throwing more firepower and more manpower forward. Just something to think about there. The reason I had to do it, the reason that happened, well, as we know, changes in the design. Example, the main turret itself, intruding itself more into the troop area, negating the number of personnel and ammunition and equipment that could be carried as opposed to the original design. Just something as a heads up. I was in the original NCCV. I am very familiar with it. In fact, it was loaded with firepower for the infantry. Everybody could contribute in one form or another. It was a good idea and then they fumbled, screwed it and the rest of the history. Ignore the movie. It really doesn't cover all the aspects. They're just trying to ridicule everybody in general. The people who actually did their job on the McVie did a really good job on making it work. It's the asshats that were looking at somebody else's rumpus yes men that were the problem. Anyway, that's the sidebar. Mark, hold on. I brought Bob in. Bob's got 40 men. I've got another group of two squads here, another squad there. I also have several new squads and organizations. The reason I need to know what your strength is and what kind of manpower, how you're trained is so that I can line up the other squads to build copacetic platoons. In other words, if I can find similar but not exactly the same, close enough you're almost on the same page and most of you will be anyway. I'm going to take those four squads and make up a platoon that very quickly can integrate even if each squad was from a different group of people that haven't trained it together. The basic concepts are there. It's the job of a platoon leader to iron things out and settle things very quickly without changing the individual squads. Do not try to micromanage a squad that's already developed. Not at this point nor, not especially in the beginning. You're wasting valuable time and you're burning up resources you need in other areas very quickly, not the least which is time. Okay? Once you organize enough platoons to organize again a company, then you have to decide about that weapons idea we were talking about. Are you going to add a weapons platoon or are you going to have support platoons provided by battalion that come down to company level? That's a math problem that you're going to have to determine depending on which area of operation you are on the battlefield inside the United States. Okay, that's simple. I heard a voice, so I'm going to now call or jump in there, please. Yeah, it's towards that. When we first started getting involved with militia groups back in 93. We were on the East Coast and rather than going five man, five man, we went three man, three man, four man because of the what we viewed at the time as overwhelming numbers against us that being broken up into three groups with the, you know, the platoon or the squad leader is in the, obviously the group with four. What's your perspective on that? It's kind of like the old marine stuff they used to do with three men. Right, that's the idea. Actually, that's why the Marines embraced that. Let's think about something. What was the condition of our battlefield in the Pacific in the beginning of World War II, guys? Outnumbered everywhere. Isn't that right? And who was it? Well, Army and the Marine Corps were always competition against each other, but the Marine Corps had changed its structure in a series of experimental formations several times before World War II. In fact, post World War I and just after the beginning of the Depression. The ideas that they developed, in fact, they went back to some of them, progressively through the war, not just before the war, but through the war, But in the earliest stages, if you're not familiar, guys, it was one submachine gun, one automatic rifle, and one rifleman per three-man team, which means that the unit was heavy on BARs or the Marine Corps at Johnson's. Yeah, everybody's got a Johnson, man. No, no, no, not that kind of Johnson. We're talking about the Johnson manufactured weapons that the Marine Corps purchased specifically to not fight with the Army over the M1 Garand. The Johnson semi-automatic rifle, 10-shot capacity, side gate, rotary magazine works from a regular Springfield stripper clips as opposed to the Garand which uses its own D-clip. and they had the Johnson Squad automatic rifle. Both guns worked really well and both weapons were intricate in design in terms of, you know, they were a little more complicated in the Grand. Not much. The Marines, the units, and by the way, they had another gun I gotta mention, the Reising submachine gun, which after, during the war, and even a little before the war, the Reising and 45 ACP, which was a open bolt, semi-automatic weapon offered as a carbine, I will remind you again if you ever see a racing shuts your face and buy it don't talk about it don't do anything why the only difference between a racing SMG and a racing carbine is a piece of coat hanger wire what oh yeah he's racing carbine just to pop out at the gun shows all the time where somebody bought them back in the day and there wasn't any bat faggots that you know they weren't bothering it didn't have the gun control act 68 And by excluding one part, the gun became a non-select fire, but rather a semi-auto only weapon. However, you know how to bend coat hanger, heavy coat hanger wire, all of a sudden the weapon would do something else. Well, that rising submachine gun was supplementing the Thompson inventory they never had enough of, not in the early stages. But what this did is against Japanese, especially what everybody would later know as the Banzai Charge, against mass wave assault in jungle environments, pools of three men, a rifleman for accuracy, the automatic rifleman for suppression fire, and the automatic submachine gun for blocking or for plugging the holes wherever necessary. In other words, it had an umbrella of firepower. Each three-man team had that potential to stand alone. And the sad part about it is what it did is it allowed the unit commanders to be able to spread their men thinner. You always see this in all the movies. But they don't depict the weapons properly in many cases. Again, that three-man fire team times three plus the squad leader, remember, you do see this. You watch the series War in the Pacific. When they're in Guadalcanal, you see the squad leader moving back and forth and jostling the men, keeping them awake, telling them to pay attention. The Japs are coming. Well, that was his job. As needed, the squad leader would obviously be directing fire, but also would be that other man that would provide additional firepower wherever needed. Okay? Remember you'll see this with both Marine and with Army then the weapons sections which this changed back and forth Brownings were in the platoon In either the water cooled in the early days or obviously the air cooled later on but that very dramatically the only thing that changed how much of what you had was the fact that there was more of a what as the war you know went on in equipment that was sent to the front and the guys just quietly slid it sideways and stole it and If you could steal a gun, they'd have to go find another gun. You steal it off somebody else's gear, they couldn't say anything. You know, off their recruit vehicles. Example, Browning guns. In Europe, at one point, I know guys that were mechanized that said they had a Browning sub-machine. They had a Browning belt-fed gun for every man in the APC if they needed it. They'd stack them up like cordwood. They'd grab the MG34s and 42s and do the same thing to have more firepower on hand. When they stop, they dump the junk out and they deploy it. So the advantage here is a three-man team could be using more firepower as accumulated and or with what it originally had in hand. If isolated, they were a good combined arms team. Go ahead jump in your collar, please. Hey question about the three-man team and I've talked to other people, you know They're trying to explain stuff like this. Here's my question I understand the battle buddy concept is that there should always be you know, two people watching each other's back But I know that you know as you were describing here and then there's other militia types that do it like the light footers They you know, their idea is the three-man team Does this how does the three-man team work? with the two-person buddy team if you have an odd number of people both at the team level which is three and the squad level which for like the Light Butters is seven. How would you implement that as a buddy team? You just have like you know two buddies and you always have to be within each other's you know like how does it work on a day-to-day level? Well yes actually that is it's a tripod. You know you've got the right you're actually right you're absolutely right it is a three-man tripod. you're all watching each other's back. The advantage of this was if somebody was taken down, one man could jump over onto the other heaviest weapon. The first rule, weapons for the greatest fire power are manned first in a desperation defense. So if you had, you know, if the guy running the BAR fell, the guy with the rifle would set his rifle down, slide his buddy sideways, and would take over the gun. If there was an opportunity and it was less aggressive contact, the idea that with a three-man fire team, one man could be covering while the other man actually can respond to an injured comrade. Now you don't even there you don't do that right away if you're under pressed fire in other words first win the battle then do the medicine But you had a greater opportunity with a three-man fire team to be able to respond and conserve fighting force You know one thing we don't think about Guadalcanal was like landing on another planet You know if you look at you know everybody tell you know that's why it's really kind of funny You know there's a comparative study about sci-fi you know with the planet hopping and what we actually faced in World War II. When the Marines landed and the Army landed in other locations, they got left behind. You know, there's a great series of stories about what happened. Remember, we got our ass kicked, literally. They held their own on the ground, but still at loss. And by being able to take and compress and pull your people back using the three-man team for instance, the Marines, It gave them the ability to move a person and fall back with both weapons and manpower. You didn't have a rear. I mean, everybody talks about a guerrilla war. Guadalcanal really didn't have much of a rear. You had places you controlled, but everybody danced back and forth around that. And you ended up, if you were still walking wounded, you fought. There was no to the rear and over the aid station and by the way, we're going to leave you back there and you don't need to do anything now No, if you were clipped or snipped or you know tagged with a you know fragmentation But you weren't you know down for the count The guys had to fight because what they had was all they had both in manpower fight ammunition and weapons so that's one of the advantages of the three-man system is that you are able to reinforce each other. The tripod, of course, not four points of the compass, but three points. And each one was a, you know, controlling a fire if you're stuck and you're in the middle of, you know, CC City. Otherwise on the line, as I pointed out, one of the things that was really problematic with this is that it gave them the excuse to be able to thin the line out more because they were thinking that the logic was that I've got a BAR, a Thompson, and a rifleman. I can stretch the line out because I'm short manpower but we're going to hold this larger area. I would say this, amazingly enough, the idea worked. If you really ignore the bunching up that they do for movies is because you've got to have something in the picture or the film looks really dull. But in reality, understand, and they mentioned this many times, man, we're kind of thin. They kind of spread us out. What we're talking about is moving men out to or stretching those individual fighting detachments far enough apart that they really don't have the integration that they need for security. Things can slip between you. Now, the only option you have when that situation arises is not only to spread out your little three-man teams, but then your three-man team has to spread out. The math formula is being far enough to take advantage of greater range of the weapons left, right, left, right, left flank, right flank. The disadvantage is, again, just like the holes in the line from fire team to fire team, it allows for holes in the line with regard to mutual defense. So this is where still the basic battle buddy, trust your friend, trust your battle buddy, Axiom, Axiom especially applies because you fight and you keep fighting no matter what. If you're hit, you keep fighting. If you think you're hit, maybe you're dying. The idea was put everything into it before you go because you like these guys more than you do the bastards coming at you. So there is a bit of an advantage. You have the extra man to tow somebody back to the rear while the other guy's actually providing cover fire. Otherwise you're still, go ahead, go ahead, jump in there. Well, like the part that always got me, and I know this is a silly example, but this is just the first one that comes to my head, is, you know, like, even, you know, it's always said, you know, like, even when you go to the bathroom, you have to take your ballot buddy. Well, if you have a three-man team, does that mean you take both of them? Do you all, like, all three of them? Well, one guy, you wouldn't know your... No, no, let's back up on that. It means one guy's aiming with a rifle to cover your ass while the other one's close enough to make sure they drag your bare butt hind in away from the fire when it happens. Um... I told you one of the guys I served with, he had three Purple Hearts. Two of them were being shot in the ass. And you know how he got shot in the ass? Doing exactly what you're talking about. He said, man, both times we stopped, we set up for the night, we set up our positions. The latrine was designated law, guys. If you don't know how to military field camp, You find a log with a, preferably a little depression behind it, that way you don't have to dig so much. But you dig away a certain amount of soil, you put some of the soil up with the shovel sitting there. If you've got to go out and do your dirty deed, guess how you get out there, take a bit of that dirt, cover up what you did so we don't have stink all night. And then at the end of the activity, wherever you're positioned, pre-dawn, somebody's out there covering the cat, covering the, more than a cat holds a dog hole. covering that up and then down the road you go. That guy had a big white butt sticking out and that's why he probably got shot twice there. Yeah. A Caucasian pair of big, a Caucasian pair of white butt cheeks and a guy as big as me is quite an opportune target and in both cases he was out there, he said, man, I dropped my drawers and he said I looked to the left and there was movement. And I said, oh, that's kind of weird. Trees are moving. And he thought, wait, trees are moving my ass. And he looked to the left. He said, there's more of them. And he realized that he was already enveloped. In other words, they were side by side to the latrine headed towards the perimeter. And it was a temporary, not hasty, but a temporary perimeter for the evening. And so he turned around. So he turned around. Started lift his pants up and run and he said I felt a tug on my butt cheek He goes on I didn't know what that was right away He goes, but trust me I'm hopping with one hand will move my legs with the other hanging out of m16 pulling my pants up and he goes I got back as all hell broke loose because they were right behind me while they were running with me and he goes that's when he realized I'm here and Of course then they found out. Yeah in the buttocks are Well, they took him back, the convalesce, they brought him back to the unit, and the reason is he was a dog handler, guys. I've told you about this guy before. Second time, now this is months later, a couple months later, on patrol. They get, they deploy. He sets up, he goes back out, and this time they didn't wait for him to get off the log. They plugged his hind end cheek to cheek, right? But raised him by the log in the buttocks, he has some saber-stars, okay? He got highly motivated, and he, you know, very quickly was able to get back, obviously, behind the perimeter. However, the third time he lost all of his front teeth, that was a different situation. But the first two is, I'll never forget, we were at a military ball and Sergeant, you know what, this is the major's wife who is standing there for the presentment where you come through to the military ball, you have all the officers in charge standing there and you have to present yourself and wave and smile, you know, you'll chase the hands of the wives and everything. And the Major's wife said, he goes, Sergeant, you actually look quite decent. For a man who's been shot in the cheeks, and the Major had to turn sideways and go, dear, he wasn't those cheeks. It was the other cheeks. And she goes, oh, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to mention that. And he goes, OK, ma'am, everybody knows about it. I'm thinking that might be a good place to get a camouflage tattoo would be over those many cheeks. Yeah, a big one. Yeah, a big one. So again, the biggest thing is that, yeah, you know, cover, you know, overlapping, overlapping advantages are, and this is something else to consider. If you are going to go out with another battle button, you guys are going to have to work out a schedule on it, so to speak. Only two of you are actually moving from what is a designated post, for instance, in securing a perimeter or something like that. If somebody has, for some reason, something happens. The most, realistically the first and foremost reason for having a Battle Buddy system up is to secure life. Because you can be hit, shot at, you can something get dropped on you anytime and the idea is whichever the fickle finger of hate hits somebody's there to deal with the problem. And again, nobody gets left behind that way. You know everybody is. Now, it can happen. Both of you are dead. But here's the advantage of three. The third guy knows you went somewhere. He might actually do something. In fact, he probably will. So that's a bit of an advantage again, too. Now, the disadvantage is not so much in that coordinating end. It's the idea that, well, with two-man teams, you actually can disperse even wider your fighting force. And a two-man team is all that's necessary for a move out, I got you covered, cover me, I'm moving out, or withdraw, I got you covered, I'm moving out, and you withdraw, you say, I'm in place, I've got you covered, and you move back, leapfrog with suppression fire. You don't need three men for that, only two, and you can do that times, you have five teams that way within a 10-man squad. That gives you half of the element constantly firing. Now that's skilled. True to a degree with I mean this is this is my tiny math But it's still it adds up under different conditions and of course remember. It's also significantly dependent upon the aggressor You're facing you know what's the skill level and what is the quality of the fighting force that you're facing? that determines how you're going to stop your fighting force from the beginning and As I pointed out whatever you know like was just mentioned here. You're overwhelmed here. You're outnumbered well There again, each three-man team can be carrying a lot of firepower and in and of itself can create the illusion of even a full squad. It's done right if you know how to manage your people. So for deception purposes is actually quite useful. There probably is, I don't think they took it off YouTube, but it's actually an old newsreel piece. I don't know how many of you remember this, but it's a classic example of what a three-man team does in a break contact operation. And it was done with live fire with a newsreel crew that was one of the networks, I think it was NBC, and the guys were demonstrating a break contact with a reconnaissance action because, in fact, I believe it was a SEAL unit, but I could be wrong. Anyway, remember that if you watched the whole unit on ass of the AO except for the last three designated men. And that three man fire team, their job is to create the illusion that the unit isn't breaking contact and running, but rather is either stationary or advancing. And so the second man back is using grenades, okay, two grenades automatically. First thing, point of contact man starts burning bullets. The third man burning bullets left and right flanks. creating again firing to the left, firing to the right, changing position to a degree. The second man, his job is to get two grenades downrange as quickly as possible. And the idea behind it is blunting firepower. The idea is they think they're going to advance. Mr. Grenade motivates you not to. And if you watch, they actually show how they roll up the carpet and fall back. Now there's a couple different variations on this, but the basic rule is the same. The three-man team is optimal because, again, gotcha, move. And the point man, who of course made contact with the threat, is going to break contact first and collapse behind taking up a fourth position, the Grenadier's job, by throwing the two grenades. Now, the Grenadier is in 40 millimeter. You may carry a 40-mill grenade launcher. But you want to use a defensive fragmentation grenade because it has a bigger burst radius. And our American grenades are very, very reliable. OK? They did a good job. So, chucking a couple of grenades to their front, you then fall back. They can hear that your sound is not approaching, but rather withdrawing. So, the Grenadier moves past the Point Man, and you re-establish the same footprint again, with the Third Man finally breaking contact, running past the original Point Man and the Grenadier. The guy fires another magazine. Typically, it was magazine count is what you do. You drop a whole magazine full of select fire, full auto. And then the grenadier throws out their grenade because they can hear that you're moving away, not advancing. So at that point, the aggressor is going to want to try to catch up or continue to maintain contact. The grenadier's job is to make them highly motivated to believe that they can find an excuse not to advance. And Mr. Grenade is hard to identify in the din of battle. You know, he always hear about, you know, I heard him throw the grenade. In a dark environment, middle of the night, all sounds are exacerbated. So if somebody chucks a grenade your way first, yeah, you'll probably hear that. But after the first few minutes of everybody burning a couple of magazines around you, I guarantee you that the ringing noise is a lot, you know, let's just say that your ability to detect smaller thuds It's a little more difficult. And grenades are heavy, by the way. Don't forget that. Convention grenades. Now, the Dutch make some really cute little ping pong ball sized grenades that have almost the same potential as our standard lemon and or baseball and or even the newest one. They've got a polymer one they're using that's out there. I don't know how. They may have bought that from the Czechs. They may have bought it from the Swedes. But there's other stuff we're using. But the fact of the matter is that a break contact, as I pointed out before yesterday, I was talking about reconnaissance, the best reconnaissance, the reconnaissance patrol that's never known. He never saw us, he never heard us, he don't have a clue we were there, we left no footprint, we didn't leave any poop, we don't have candy wrappers laying all over the place, and we didn't leave a cell phone, okay? That's how it should be. You're not trying to fight in a reconnaissance mode, but if you do, the idea is to break contact in such a way that you deny the enemy intelligence. Always remember that. Go ahead, call. The beginning of the war probably will mostly be accustomed like with guns, obviously. When are you going to start seeing grenades become a little more standard? Because I have a feeling a lot of people, even in the middle of they're probably about to fight, will probably hesitate to use grenades because they just, you know, you know. But when are you going to start seeing that? Yeah, I know. But when are you going to start seeing that from a standard across the board? Well, again, in the initial stage, it's improvised, depending upon your school of thought. PVC pipe, plug, running all pipe, as in short, modular type units rather than big, sticky things, are going to be very quickly understood. Problem is that your PVC supplier is not going to be around forever. So this is where you have to understand using non-strategic materials for high expendables like that is critical. We talked about trench technology, World War I type trench technology being applied. Traditionally, grenades were made and assembled in the field by the sappers or by the grenadiers. They did have factory made, and that was a combination. It's purely a matter of what you have available. And I would point out that the Ordnance Officers and most field officers originally were given classes on building and manufacturing arms. And where this came from was the old Roman theory of the Legionnaire, the idea that the primary centurion who was in charge was not just a combat officer, he was a builder, an engineer. This is where I've talked about being a generalist. Manufacturing constantly or building as needed should be integrated immediately into all aspects of training. Most common is going to be using the existing supplies. Cams are really great for making fragmentation or at least again flash type grenade or I should say defensive grenades. They're all lethal. There's no such thing as a non-lethal grenade. That's all BS propaganda that the cop shops put together with the feds. That's a lie. Any grenade thrown at you has lethality. It's to what degree based upon range, okay? All grenades have fragmentation. You get stuck with something in the head, it'll kill you dead in the doornail, be it a defensive or offensive grenade. Hell, just the fuse assembly's got enough velocity going on and it gets stuck in your forehead. You've got a surprised look and a very short lifespan. Just a heads up on that. So... Making or production is purely going to be a matter of creativity on the part of the state, county, wherever you happen to be. And then it's also the war council's job to start writing edicts to get materials together to quickly expand on that. In World War I, as I pointed out, trench grenades, trench mortars, trench mortars would be just as valuable and in fact are like the Stalin's organ of the short range industry. That can be done with PVC pipe, water pipe. In fact, what they did in World War I, guys, I told you guys to go check this out. You know what the most commonly used tool for making a trench mortar was? Spent artillery shells. A standard spent artillery shell, they would put them in racks of eight and they would make a directional and controllable for elevation, mortar. You had to move the whole rack left or right, but you pre-station them, and it's kind of like an indirect fire of fugue. Instead of the fugue, you know, look pointed straight at you and you touch it off and it, you know, mows you down with rocks, bolts, chunks of glass. There's a one gallon can of gasoline that's been napalmized inside. It goes down ranging for 150 yards ahead of it, and for 150 yards on a fan, everything gets hit. Now you can do that with a 55 gallon drum. In fact, that used to be in the manuals, but I know the officer originally was the NCO that invented those during Vietnam. I know that man personally. He was bragging about it. He was bragging about it. Westmoreman came and they wanted to see it. He could go see it go off and they touched him off and he goes, oh, it's pretty impressive. He goes, wait. And of course, as it goes off, the jellified fuel in the one gallon metal can get shredded and washes over the area and then ignites with the fuel air mix while the blast is moving forward. Pretty impressive. So any of the, the biggest issue here is again reliability, compactability, doesn't have to be compact depending on what the mission is. But I would point out that again, consistency means reliability and also ease of use in training from man to man to man. It doesn't mean you can't come up with different ideas, but guys, you can't throw a brand new object at somebody and expect consistency and performance. So when you come up with an idea and you make it part of the unit's SOP, you have to make sure that there is a tutorial period. You have to train to have everybody understand. See this? This is a tomato soup grenade. Here's how it works. These are the components. And you even show the components. Why? I want every man in the unit to be able to build one. There's no reason not to. Grenades aren't that difficult. In fact, that's the one thing they're terrified of. Originally, guys, we made grenades out of glass and terracotta. The disadvantage of glass and terracotta. Yeah, terracotta does not necessarily erupt uniformly. Depending on how the stuff is baked, you may not get, you actually may not get much of an actual expansion. And you don't get much fragmentation by comparison, but it was designed more as a shock grenade. Glass is obvious. It's horrific if it's done right. Problem, the glass has to be properly blown slash tempered. If it's not, when the charge goes off, the glass will shatter into sand. It's a crystalline structure. If it's not done right, the glass grenade will turn into just dust. Now, that's still something I don't want next to me. Obviously, I wouldn't want to mix my head. But this was one of the disadvantages of any of their advantages and disadvantages. Now, if the glass grenade was done right, you've all been cut by glass. And can you imagine something coming at you from the middle of a small explosion that's doing about 40,000 feet per second for only so many feet? But if you're within that burst radius, that shard of glass times many is coming at you, and you're not going to slow it down. You're going to eventually find bones, and it's stuck in you. Oh, yeah, it's horrific. That's why under both the HAGS and the Geneva Convention and the Hague treaties, Glass grenades and other certain things became nicks. We weren't supposed to do it. And it starts out going back to the period of just before the Napoleonic Wars, but especially comes into play with the Napoleonic Wars. Strangely enough, most people ignored it and still make glass grenades quite a bit after the Napoleonic Wars. Okay? Another thing about grenades is fusing systems, and there are a number of options, but this is the age of electronics, and there are some really dirty things you can do with the same fused or forgive me, the same grenade that designed, but using a handful of wires, two wires coming out of what is a squib, electronic squib, and you have what is now a command that needed anti-personnel mine. So if you don't have fuses you can light, go electronic. All you can take is those old batteries that you can't use in your night vision anymore. Rack them up, two or three, so you get enough fuse. When you hit the little switch, what little power is there? It goes down the line, activates the anti-personnel device, and boom. And that didn't feel good. How? That hurt. So again, nothing you have that you are carrying if you've used up whatever originally was intended for is junk. Nothing. everything has a second, third, and fourth use. And I would point out, if you're in an area, you start watching for shrapnel and junk because you're going to load it right back up in something, and you're going to point it at the bad guys, you're going to set it off just like we're talking about. You can take fragmentation components, pieces and assemblies, old steel cases or brass case ammo that's busted up to the point where you can't use it for anything. You don't take the stuff that's reloadable, that's going back to the rear. But it should be saved. It's used last because you're trying to steer you want to recover as much as you can But if you have damaged components you have broken windshield safety glass safety glass look at it little cube of glass You pack that you put that around the outside of a charge and you have that set up hard. We're going to set it up Congratulations boom hurts shreds I still put metal in there because that glass is designed to also break down further. You got to remember the safety glass In fact, it is designed, it's kind of like asbestos. Safety glass, if it fractures again, will fracture into smaller and smaller basic modules, the likes of what you see with the original fracture. However, when it does move through the air at a velocity after it's slapped, it's still going to do a nasty job of creating anti-personal fragmentation or shredding, carrying, folding, spindling, and mutilating. So it works just fine. Another thing is remember, kind of like what other countries have done, and the Japanese were good on this one. The grenades also work for your mortar rounds. It's actually your shell rate with one additional fixture attached. It can either be the grenade or it's your 60 millimeter or 45 millimeter or whatever becomes your standard. Are there any weapons that we won't use or won't use very often? Electronic weapons will progressively become nicks simply because of reliability and available components. Some weapons systems are electronically fired, you got to remember that, especially in some of the heavier weapons that are coming off pieces of equipment. Now, I'm electronically fired. I'm not talking about, you know, electronic turrets or anything like that. We're talking about an electronic ignition system. No, go ahead. I meant due to the horrific nature of how it is done. Well, no, probably because they're going to be thinking about this. They're going to be thinking every horrific way they can to harm us. And I think everybody's going to get used to understanding something I've had to explain for years. I've had this conversation over and over again. How about dealing with having to do in these people? It's like, well, did you pick the house up and put a van head on it? No, they came out to us. We didn't go to them. But since they want to come out to us, we're going to take and run right down the road after them, find wherever they hide, and get rid of every last one of the bastards. And whatever it takes, as far as whatever weapons systems we have to do it, we're going to keep employing. Now, some things we'll want to build better anyway. There are a couple of advantages to certain types of ways that weapons work for reliability and consistency. Always reliability is your first issue. Better have something that goes off every time but doesn't perform as well as maybe the other side stuff or somebody stuff if it's consistent because how many times, and let me point this out, America had this problem. We made some pretty damn expensive torpedoes before World War II, didn't we guys? We had torpedo bombers. and we had destroyers and cruisers that had lots of torpedoes on them. Let me ask you something. They were very expensive. Government had built them. They should have worked. What happened in the cruiser destroyer action where we lost our ass off Guadalcanal? And what was the biggest problem with regard to the exchange? The Japanese torpedoes worked real well. Ours... Not so much. You might recall there are several examples and they've downplayed the more and more, they've narrowed by them, where in reality it was understood that the reliability level of those torpedoes was low. But it's what you had and so first what they did is they tried to figure out what is going on with this POS. while they still kept using them. And even after they built better behind, they also had engineers and or field personnel, armorers, whose job it was to try and figure out what's wrong with this thing and can we fix it here on the ship because we got to make sure every one of them works. Our people are risking their lives every time they go out to battle. So guys, don't think that this is just a foreign problem. One of the Italians, they had blah blah blah. Nah, we have had weapons systems that have killed our own people with reckless abandon. Through failure. The M16, I've told you this before, and again, why reliability is so much more critical. Why a straight case, a caliber that we develop is better than maybe doing a stepped rifle case in the early stages of this war. Let me give an example. There's a 450 cartridge out there right now. Guys, if you look at it that fits in the AR-15 magazine, you do realize all it is is a cut down rifle case. Exactly what I told you would be one of the solutions. 45, 450, blah blah blah. They just came up with a different designation. I want to say, if I don't think about it, I'll rattle it off. I just, I have a case. I just found one in the middle of nowhere, as a matter of fact. And what's interesting about this is if you just take a .30-out-6, lay it side by side, take a look at the case, take a look at the case that they're using, and you tell me, I know what they did. It's what we've done before. This is all stuff they're reinventing the wheel from other experiences with other cartridges. Now, in the future, that would be more economical. And like I told you, there's no reason for a 9mm round to cost more than a stepped rifle round. The stepped rifle round should always be more expensive. Why? Well guys, take a look at how much work it takes to make a stepped rifle round. Take a look at how little it takes to make a 9mm Parabella round. And yet they are jacking us right now. Government told them to do that. But again, reliability is one of the first things you want to look at. If I can pick a system and the thing is reliable and it throws a lot of junk down the range and it does it well, then that is still your first best choice to get that bridging process going to, you know, fill in the gap where you have something that you don't have yet. And this is especially true with pyrotechnics and munitions. anything that's going to go boom in the night. And another thing is, oh, how do I forget this? You can make reliable, but you better make it safe. You better know how to make it right. Example, real quick, we can make a 37 millimeter bird bomb. They call them bird bombs. You know, they are bird bombs, okay? You know what those are, bird bombs. Anyway, there was a model or design that was made back in the 80s. How many of you remember this one? The first M203 lookalike. 37 millimeter launchers came out. Guess what? The formula was to make your own and use a hot glue gun. Really? Well, here's the thing. The hot glue gun idea was cool, but it was in the spacer between the fusing channel and the actual primary charge. They wanted you to bond that tube together using a hot glue gun. Problem. It's not very malleable, and the adhesion quality was low. a better polymers should have been used, a better adhesive should have been used. Instead, a percentage of these 37 millimeter M203 copy look-alike grenade launchers, I'm sorry flare launchers, the guy who pulled the trigger on his bird bomb. I don't believe this was an accident. There's a lot of stuff like this I've argued over the years and not with enough experience. I do know that yes I'm right. That was a design sabotage. It was a Russian roulette thing. But if the round was either carried for a period of time, the hot glue would separate from the two bonded materials. And what you would have is a jump where the fuse filament that was supposed to retard the activation of the main charge, the area around it would be compromised, and the fuse would burn past. the retarding wall and would activate the main charge and it would go off in your tube. It'd go off somewhere between where it was sitting in the case and the end of your tube and it would look like a Bugs Bunny commercial where you have that blown out chunk of tube sitting there because they were aluminum not steel, remember that. Even if they'd been steel, it probably would have held and not compromised but they still would have stretched, okay? So there's things we've seen that again teach you lessons that you are learned. In fact, study the fireworks industry. They have to worry about liability nonstop. Look at and learn about how they make things because how they make things especially incorporates low-end, kiss, keep it simple, stupid, user-friendly safety technology. And that's the most, again, reliability, but safety's nice too. Yeah, how'd you lose that finger? Well, yeah, it worked mostly. It got it away from me. Unfortunately, the fuse set wasn't right. The channel was too big. The fuse burned past the, into the main charge, and it went off about four or a foot and a half away from my hand. Now, I'm explaining to you something that I know guys are in Vietnam in the earliest stages. Very first attachment. I know guys were in the first attachment that went in after the medic was killed. Not the very, well, not the very first. It'd be the second detachment, forgive me, but part of the first SS. The Viet Cong would get into and try to work their way into the system, or there were rats that were working that were South Vietnamese. What they would do is short the fuse or change out the fuse to no fuse on a grenade. So this is why you never, never, never, never, never, never pull the pin, let the clapper go and count to three. You'll never get to three if that fuse is short. You do understand that, right? So here's the rule. Pull the pin, throw the damn thing. You don't know if somebody had a bad day at the factory. Oh, man. It's Friday, dude I'm peeing my pants and Charlotte's waiting for me out in the car and we're going to the party tonight. Oh, you know what? I only got 12 feet worth of fuse, but I need no I need 12 and a half. I can short these a little bit. All right, I got 11 and a half. Don't forget me. I gotta go the other way So anyway, Bob makes those fuses maybe all a little shorter. Only half a second maybe a second Then maybe he also forgot that he indexed the last crawler there and that last grenade doesn't really have a few of the bodies there and the blasting caps there and the capper is going to do what it does. It's like a little rifle striker but there's no time refuse in between. And so when you throw the grenade, however fast you throw it determines how far away it gets from you before it goes off. how fast your arm is, okay? But it's still, once you release that clapper, Mr. Grenade is not your friend. And so, do not, do not, do not hang on to a grenade. It may not kill you that way, but if you've been listening to Uncle Mark, you've got wraparound body armor, you might only lose a finger like a friend of mine did. He lost the index finger and he lost the upper first knuckle of the other finger. Why? Oh, we had a box full of grenades there. They went to they were training a mountain yard unit And I did I pulled the pin through the grenade guess what short fuse no fuse actually it went off right out front of them Let's save them. Are you are you saying that it's not a good idea to pull pins and put them in your uniform? Right, that's the FBI method. That's the ATF method. That's the ATF method, yes. Remember that. You pull the pin on your grenade and you slide it down or you slide it into your pocket where it's being held. And then you pull the pin and you already have the safeties off. And so you've got a grenade in a pocket that's already, the pin's pulled, but the clapper doesn't separate. Now the logic behind that was you're going to grab the top of your grenade and slick your grenade at somebody. But if unfortunately you're flicking around and shucking and jiving, then the grenade has a tendency to go off right there where it is. Because the plapper separates even by... Guys, all it's got to do is misplace by a part of an inch. And guess what? That little striker firing pin is going to hit the fuse. And once that starts, there is nothing going to stop boom from going on. And the Bat-Faggots actually did that. You think I'm... Ed's joking about that one. We are. No. That's reality happened in Ohio and they tried to, they tried, the bat faggots lied and tried to put the company out of business that made the ordinance and finally it came out in the wash in the courtroom that the bastards had pulled the pins on their grenades in advance. Who the hell are the, well wait a minute, those are my enemy. Do I really care if they did that? But this is real. The company was exonerated, but they then sued the Fed because of the horrible damage they did with rumor to their product. They were making flashbang grenades. Hey, could you see sabotage against weapons and grenades being really common? Oh, that happens no matter what. I mean, that's another reason to know who's doing the zoo and what's going on with your equipment. It's why they had whole classes in World War II on counteraction. You're trained to do it too. This is why you don't just, unless you overrun a position. Oh, guys, in platoon, remember? Oh, this is important shit, man. You know, we got to take this to the lieutenant man and he picks up the can. What happens? Well, he's harmless. It was it's something you need to watch her because the ordinance is it may not be sabotage But guys like I said Bob had a bad day at the factory. He wasn't paying somebody might not pay attention For this reason you always move the stuff away from you when you're using it pointed towards the enemy Throw it at the enemy, but when you pull the pin when you let it go remember start moving it away from you Because it can happen The problem with sabotage is it can come to bites in the ass. Always remember that. Which is why when you sabotage and you're you're you're like leaving a cash and you sabotage something You have to make sure all your team members know let me give you an example Because the Vietnamese used to love to leave an AK behind that was pristine. They picked the best gun they had They'd pop the shell they pop the bullets on the gun and they'd pack the whole they'd pack up their saved C4 and they'd load up a magazine full of C4 and then put the bullets, you know Put the bullet back in and put it back in the mag They'd leave that on the top and it'd be the pristine gun you'd want to take. In other words, it just came from the factory. And a lot of guys picked him up. But one of the guys pointed out to me, he was in 1968, He was part of a unit that was sweeping during the Tet and they deal with it, always looking for goodies. And they had this one AK and they picked it up and it's exactly what I described. They stuck the magazine in, they got it back aways, they secured the location. And they said they're going to test it out and fire it because this is a brand new rifle. And they said, well, you start pulling the drapery and your hand sucker was just beating the hell out of their shoulder. It's a testimony to the AK that after the third or fourth round, the Sergeant Commissary said, what the hell are you fools doing? And the little sergeant, he says, it's a really cool gun. He goes, yeah, well, guess what? You look like you were riding a buffalo. He goes, yeah, it was kind of kicking hard. And lo and behold, they broke out the pliers. He said, well, you dumbass. And I said, look at this. And he goes, oh, you know, but it taught him a lesson. Fortunately, not a lethal one. But a testimony to the AK, it didn't blow it up. That's what he said man, I'm gonna tell you something it was it's the cases were all ruptured after the fourth round we stopped But he said cases were all ruptured, but the rifle was in one piece not looking pretty all smoked up all carboned up, but it was intact Now I don't tell you to do that at home Don't you even think about trying it? But there are accounts from people who survived stuff like this I will point out that there are other situations They didn't survive. We don't want to learn on our own, so we better pay attention to what happened. God bless our Republic. Death in the New World Order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen, the Empire is on the run. And we are on the march for day and night. Study people find everything you can and absorb as much as you can especially with regard to fieldcraft but also understanding the mechanical world. It's what we live in and what we will be fighting in. God bless y'all. It will take off for an hour. Ed's taking over. Liberty Community continues. We'll be back for the evening at teleports. God bless.