constitution you know the right to bear arms because that the last form of defense against tyranny not the hunt to protect yourself from the police anybody that wants to disarm me can drop dead anybody that wants to make me unarmed and helpless people that want to literally create the proven plenuses are killed called gun-free zones we're going to beat you we're going to vote you out of office or suck on my machine what do we do politicians Look, okay, just get any blunt objects together, alright? If you get corners, put the fashion in the head, that seems to work out. Keep together, stay sharp and follow me. I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost. You're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate. And your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press. and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children will be. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise. Take a stand. Defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land. Preserve our great Republic and each God-given right. And pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke he'd vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each God-given right, we only watch and tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free? I remember a teacher that I had. Now I only, I went through the seventh grade. I went to the seventh grade. I left home when I was 10 years old because I was hungry. I used to do things that were true. I work in the summer and I go to school in the winter. But I had this one teacher, he was the principal of the Harrison School in Winstan, Indiana. To me, this was the greatest teacher, a real stage of my time anyhow. He had such wisdom. And we were always fighting the pledge of allegiance one day. And he walked over, this little old teacher, Mr. Laswell was his name. Mr. Laswell, this is, um... He says, I have been listening to you boys and girls recite the Pledge of Allegiance all semester. And it seems as though it's becoming monotonous to you. If I may, may I recite it and try to explain to you the meaning of each word. I, me, an individual, a committee of one, pledge. dedicate all of my worldly goods to give without self-pity, allegiance, my love and my devotion to the flag, our standard, O glory, a symbol of freedom. Wherever she waves, there's respect because your loyalty has given her a dignity that shouts freedom is everybody's job. United. That means that we have all come together. States. Individual communities that have united into 48 great states. 48 individual communities with pride and dignity and purpose. All divided with imaginary boundaries yet united to a common purpose. And that's love for country. And to the republic. Republic. A state in which sovereign power is invested in representatives chosen by the people to govern. And government is the people. And it's from the people to the leaders. Not from the leaders to the people. For which it stands. One nation, one nation. Meaning, so blessed my God. Indivisible, incapable of being divided. With liberty, which is freedom. the right of power to live one's own life without threats, fear, or some sort of retaliation and justice. The principles are qualities of dealing fairly with others for all, which means, boys and girls, it's as much your country as it is mine. And now, boys and girls, let me hear you recite the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country and two words have been added to the pledge of allegiance under God. Wouldn't it be a pity if someone said that is a prayer? And that would be eliminated from schools too. And gentlemen, this is the afternoon intelligence report. I'm Mark Krunke. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers behind the lines in occupied territories. West, southeast, east, and mg.com. Liberty Tree Radio on... satellite and we are on AM&FM micro stations, CB base stations, and Ultra Hallmark and Golden Spike technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. Good afternoon to all our friends out there in the lower 49 including the great state of Jefferson along with CONUS, the Outline 2 states, the territories, and the clock. It is five ten p.m. eastern standard time it is thursday the other t day when government uh... like the u.s. government is really normally attack americans and murder them on american soil and blame it on somebody else it's just what they do we're getting ready for that the a t f f b i am the mother planning a bombing inside the u.s. right now they've got a bomb plant somewhere get ready to kill americans gongers are being beaten non-stop of the rest of the information's right before your eyes so pay attention and maybe we'll shoot some quote-unquote uh... bracket uh... arab terrorist that what when you shoot them to be screaming in hebrew rather than you know arab nor any arabic column because they're not well they are from the middle east and of the terrorists that you want to catch but they're not from the place you thought you'd find them uh... anyway expect that to happen And it is 2021, old earth calendar, again 2021, Battle for the Republic Dance of Swords, and needless to say, open Soviet and Fabian Socialist occupation of America with a K. It's right in your face. The snare has begun that little tattoo towards the big event. The tinder drum kicks in. and then the base kicks in and everything starts to really roll and go to town and then you're in, you know, full-fledged communist red-terran track. We'll be killing them before that, pretty sure on that one, so... don't worry of the the first open-phase uh... you know we'll radio record record player man play it all night you know what i mean man you know what i mean yeah man that playing that thing that covers pretty much the petal meat puppet i don't care what i'll whatever they put in his face as far as we'd be without that because the technical obama is up at mongol and moving the bottom of the space okay uh... and again that's not a surprise that's what we've expected there's nothing that they're going to say that's going to make me go all while i never expected that uh... in other words as they open their face more you can keep repeating remember the patriot and militia movement have been and are one hundred percent absolutely correct so or now not just a when we have to be ready for it uh... couple things here real quick yeah as a matter of fact i know i saw some of the images anyway um... the chipman character that's going to be in charge of the bat faggots it baby killer all he is tied into a number of different actions but it's interesting somebody has posted i think it's been taken up but don't take it up but don't take it up but down but he was in a yuk yuk session about the murder of the branch to video somewhere around nineteen ninety eight or ninety nine where they were in the home kind of leftist uh... circle jerk uh... with the clinton east is and what's interesting about this remember that he was not the full mover and shaker yet you've got to be a trigger pulling baby murder peto slash queer in order to get any position in the upper ranking. Well, this person is, like I've told you a million times, the trigger pullers, the yes men, get promoted. And that's what you're seeing right now. So, it should tell you also about what they have in the way of an agenda with regard to their true actions. And it means that at some point we're going to be in open conflict sooner rather than later, but it would be best we need to get this on, get it over with, and then get on with life once we're done. So, whatever it is we're going to do, and what are we going to do to deal with it see that's really the question what are you prepared to do our view squared away yourself and i've been this way got into yesterday personal preparation you need to become a master of the trade tonight if you're going to sit down in front of you to go over to you to been punch in technical data videos and just sit there and stay on them phenomenal videos available both with military uh... you know file teaching uh... format or stuff that's been done privately or stuff that's been done by individuals who are operating equipment right now all of this is good how many of you have actually shot a mag fifty eight in whatever variant the u.s. has or what you see overseas well guess what there's a lot of videos of that going on in effect showing the operation step by step by step by step by step you have taken advantage of that right You are going to be pulling from the warm dead hands of a lot of your enemy that weapon Do you know how to bring it into service? Do you know how to reload it? Are you familiar with problems that may occur that are not significant? But issues that may need to be dealt with depending upon how long weapons been operating remember carbon buildup dirtiness? Crote in the field bad ammunition good many number of things well i recommend that you kind of go down the shopping list indirect fire mortars all rpg seven uh... laws rocket by the way for anybody opens up their faces as well as workers obsolete that you have been keeping up on the latest and greatest of money your government spent because, oh, they don't have American companies building the laws, M72. They're building it overseas. Oh, but we're buying it. But we're not buying it and building it. We're paying some of the country so they can keep the manufacturing out of the U.S. So when the war starts in here, then that production isn't in here. That's what I told you that was going on when they did it. Um, a couple years ago. Well, the M72, realistically, you go back, find any of the videos that are Vietnam era, they're fully cognizant right now. Everything about them is useful. So I highly recommend you get up on that one real quick. Needless to say, all of the other intermediate, or I should say small, medium, and large AT weapons are pretty much in service. Don't forget that along on the tooth 90 millimeter recoilless the Karl Gustaf How many of you are going to be you're going to be coming across corpses that you've made that are being you know They'll be clutching Karl Gustaf any tank weapons recoilless reloadable, you know how to reload them Never handle them. Some of you might have if you got if you go down to Knob Creek some of this stuff is actually on the tables and You know, that's for display sometimes little itches touches sometimes they won't But you still get a chance to physically visualize you can look at it even ask them hey, can you open the breach? They'll open the breach. You don't even have touch it. You don't have touch it. Let them do the work Yeah, I'd like to see how does that work again. Where's that latch? How does that okay? Cool now I've seen that in real life plus. I've watched the videos Now hands-on would be nice, but hey you know what most the military yet even with the m72s laws rocket guys most of you guys the military know you never fired one and Most never fired one, you know when they when they were really pissed and amount about money spent you had like a lottery at the end of the year for active units and two guys or three guys got to actually shoot a laws rocket Now at the end, when the inventory, when they told everybody, oh, the M72s, you know, out, well, all of a sudden they were letting everybody fire that at their range. Remember at the very end, how many remember that? They had whole groups of people. Now, there is a subcaliber device. There should be some videos on that. I've never really checked to see if anybody's done that. You do see those subcaliber devices in movies. uh... that were actually used all they were you know if they were represented so if you go take a look at uh... don't not the movies but take a look at you to see what you can find the training rocket allowed for everyone to fire and typically uh... depending on what year you were in the cycle one point it was too of the subcaliber laws rocket trainers per person uh... at one time when they were pissing money about money spent they were handed money you know go weapons hand over fist to foreigners who hate us uh... but you and i could trade with the you know what could fire but one of the training route even though they had pockets and buckets of them later on would even destroy a whole bunch of them because they didn't you know they have any need for him in other words they put them together they had millions of them and they didn't let the troops use them usual p.s. we see with the turds that are in the regime that don't really worry about turning the troops so much as how much can they pad pocket or slip out the back door to the israeli so they can you know rip off the market and repost off in the process anyway all another thing they're also there are a number of other weapons that are going to show up remember the a k forty seven everybody calls most of the a k tatie a k forty sevens but as you know there's a wide range of a k family of firearms that are the basic pattern but if you look at the chinese model is a bunch of stretchy catty models take a look at where the magazine releases and where the magazine well is in proportion to the trigger guard on some of the stuff the chinese are carrying Well, that ain't your granddaddy's AK-47. That's another model, and yes, there are more than a few. So, if you get a chance, you want to pay attention because you'll see the Chinese using the weapons. You'll see if there's anything unique or different. Remember, there are bullpup designs, both in the AK and other weapons. Those are still going to be in front of you. And as this war eats up material, a lot of equipment like that will be thrown into the fray simply because it's already paid for, and they figure that's enough for what they're doing. So, don't forget, you're going to run into all of the above. And then some. Now let's get into grenades. We just couldn't throw it. Nope, doesn't work that way. Many grenades have not just the pin safety, but anywhere from one to three other safeties restraining the grenade from accidentally going off. You know, just, oh, we pulled the pin by accident, the pin wore out. That happened a lot during Vietnam and other wars too. carrying the grenade and that little soft pin works back and forth on that scribe cut metal through the round the fuse channel there, the retainer, the pull pin channel. And this is why you tape the top of the grenade with masking tape, which is so that just in the event that pin just wore through the rest of the way from you back and forth, walk and walk, sway and walk, sway and walk. Guys, just in case that pin was worn through, well, if you're supposed to be inspecting your grenades every once in a while, make sure that doesn't become an issue, but hey, people had this happen, so the tape idea was precautionary against an accidental pull pin while you're moving through brush. A wear point. Pin fail. Heads up on that stuff. And again, there's a lot of neat information out there on the other foreign grenades. Check. Russian, Chinese, British, French. It's all kinds of other countries making boom toys out there, and they're all things that you need to know about. Now, as far as need to know about, let's see, there is a, well first of all I want to say hi to Robert, got your message, and it's over on Bitch, looking at a music request, vaccine zombie rap music video. now i'll tell you what will hold up his again and i think it's got five bit you gotta work your way over that so that might be a bit of a problem but so we got your music request we didn't forget you in addition again also if you would like to make a music request or if you have a technical bit of information i'll pass on or you have a question uh... you can send me an email at liberty at provide dot net liberty at provide dot net liberty Provide.Net. Okay, liberty at Provide.Net. And we'll do what we can from the other direction to help you out in whatever form. Also, I'm talking and also making sure I don't lose that music request that Robert sent. So let me make sure there we go. It's where it needs to be so it's not misplaced because when you have a thousand emails a day, it's not hard to have that happen. Anyway, very good. I just saw the other one, Robert. Thank you. Anyway, the other issue here real quick with regard to education is hands-on training. Can't afford to pull the trigger hardly at all on the weapons because you can't replace what you're going to need for the up-and-coming war. Airsoft, Airsoft, Airsoft, Airsoft, get an Airsoft gun. Get an Airsoft gun. You can get an Airsoft gun now. And if you want something that's about as realistic as it can get, There are a bunch of the present, even middle grade airsoft, and handguns especially, where in the CO2 format, not only do they have a limited magazine capacity, which is what you want, in addition to that, they have both BB now, or they have plastic traditional airsoft BB, which I recommend the plastic airsoft BB. But the neat thing is the new ones even have slide rollback. so they have four we have no wide recoil all nine yards guys these are the props that they're using for the movie series and such because all you have to do is add up synthetic flash from you know a margin and you're done quite called up in there we have quick question this is well from florida the on that works on a blown uh... what's your opinion on making it a requirement in the new government to both you have to be in the militia Well, actually, that is how it was. Well, in fact, there was more criteria. We've had this conversation for the last couple of weeks privately. Traditionally, it was you also had to be landed. You actually had to have property to do anything with regard to property tax, since there were different issues. It's why millages were set up the way they are. That's another lost word, and a lost understanding. But if you are going to, unless otherwise, exonerated because of the restriction on physical or mental incapacity you're going to be in the militia and in order to be in order to vote you have to be participant as a member of the uh... society so that's just part of the this societal bar but the way i didn't add you know it was title five title ten and title nineteen or title eighteen united states code overlaps and covers the militia clause title can't spell that all out for you uh... you know what you were at we were talking about the other day and i realized we've added mention title ten uh... title ten united states code guys that's basically with that and the overlapping components of the commerce clause are what create the draft as you hear about it now always understand that they what they've done is a creative fiction then the biggest fiction is the war power that the nineteen thirty three that they kind of through everything out the door and basically declared you property meal booty of the state uh... with regard to a service again for those you didn't hear i'll remind you that the traditional establishment of the militia all individuals all males are are members of the militia at large or you again you would call it the chemical general militia but that's not the wording if you go to to uh... unite both united states code and american constitutional law not admiral people of the of the admiral people of the of the uh... of the uh... corporate court which is what you're doing with all of these uh... you know part articles the uh... title ten title five title nineteen take a pic uh... the big thing here again is that uh... every and every individual on the roster it was retained by the sheriff who technically again was the civil slash the connective or conduit between a marshal component and the civil authority or the general population and the people thereof which make up We the People. And it's the same as true with generals. People do not understand really the role of what a general was supposed to do. and traditionally remember all were what that term going back even through the praetorian over rollman but going through greece would make any difference everybody is a citizen soldier the term that they picked up but the we're all mil everybody is supposed to have marshall content marshall potential uh... the only way that you could be exonerated in the u.s. uh... until the communist started well actually told the royalist came back in through the uh... skull and bones crew and then i in the eighteen thirties until they got the first crop of those out of college and started a work them into the system pretty much it was anchored beyond a shadow of doubt everybody understood everyone was a member of the militia the county's is where the roster was maintained the townships had sub component rosters in the event that you were actually at war and you wanted to rally or muster units by township remember guys who the everything was based uh... especially when you understand counties and townships let's remind everybody this part of why that's so important most counties are based on the idea that uh... that it takes approximately two days by far on foot to to traverse a county a traditional sized county now when you say that when you think about that but remember that we're talking about from the eastern seaboard out through to the old west which is where i think that which we now call the midwest and if you look at the construction of every county especially the checkerboard the way it's set up a little of the in the state's uh... if you look at where typically the county feet is picked up and coastal The county seat typically is in the middle and if you were to look at the distance, it's an average of about one full day's walk nonstop from the capital to the edge of the county. Now the logic there is that as far as a man would be able to govern. Logically, if you put out the call, a man's got to be able to make it a reasonable time to the sound of the bell and the call of the rider. uh... to respond to a mobilization and it is a critical part of why government was built the way it was built you know this thing about the military is totally separate from my and that's one of the biggest lies perpetrated by the panty way to desperately trying to put the fire america across the board one of the most important aspects of local governance with the idea that everybody was it within a reasonable travel distanced and understood that there was a center to the activity of uh... interaction in commerce now the interaction had to do with mutual all liberty interest as in defense or in your fire protection and or you know greek on the shopping list of what might be community issues where something's happening in my need everybody to pitch it for okay use the mobile issue roster to know that you know where everybody is to ok so that it that somebody's missing out bob missing yeah but bob house within the lowland over there with the dam broke Okay. Well, okay, let's put Bob on the list of things we got to find now. And they're probably his family too. See how that works? So that is a requirement. You're absolutely right about asking that question because, yes, in order for you to be able to participate, first of all, you have to be a sovereign. I'm an American sovereign. You're part of our nation. You're not a foreign national. You don't get to vote in our elections. You don't get to participate in our government if you're a foreigner, period. There is such a thing as an illegal alien. And right now we've got a bunch of them that need to be ejected from our country. It's all part of the many, many issues that overlap one to the other, but it has to do also with people slash the people slash allegiance. And yes, that is important, but it's based on, unlike other countries, our issues have to do with what I've repeated many times, and you people should have on your lips constantly, our mutual liberty interest. to take care of and protect our own and because i'd like what i have and you like what you have we both have a mutual interest in taking care of what we have so i could sit in my dead ass and watch him overrun you but if i did it now you're on by myself i'm gonna look just like the slaughter and massacre that just happened over there with you by yourself anything king human being would know better Just something to consider there. Another thing, um, which they've really stupefied everybody over is, remember, there were no restrictions when you have some Nimrod or Num-Nuts, uh, make the comment, oh, would you have a cannon? Well, yeah, we always did in the past, why? Right? Well, guys, uh, you know what, that's another part, we only get it on occasion, but yeah, if you had the money, you could have whatever, any weapon you want, colster mortar, heavy artillery, if you were able to peel something away from maybe a battlefield, hey, a lot of guys did that. Well, we carried everything away if it wasn't nailed down. But any weapon that you were able to afford, congratulations. It was part of the mutual defense, because after all, we support each other, right? We're all part of the people. We have faith in each other. We have the same interest. We're going to protect the borders. We're going to maintain our property. We're going to secure our rights. So of course we would have all the weapons the military has. Why would you have to worry about that if the government is not doing anything wrong? Everybody armed in a comparable standard makes it a lot cheaper and safer for the people who thought they wanted your government to continue, right? The people who want you disarmed right now are trying to destroy the government that you want to continue your form of government. That's why they want you disarmed. That's why they need to be shot. That's why I don't have any problem saying it. Because it's part of the checks and balances system. And you won't hear any of these pigs talk about that anymore, guys. And now the latest thing has been pointed out by the Equity. They're trying to make a speaking point for everybody to just lose their brain on. but we all understand that the equity not that is nothing more than just the communist crap of i'm going to take from you and get to some local who's that not a dead-ass will ever do anything with his life but they deserve your lifetime that keeps you in check of all you people of guns to steal from the productive to keep the productive from complaining about the non-productive bureaucrat politician who are stealing from you because will will plug you up and try to separate you back to the peace it was on tucker carlson which looks like it's corrupted made made a disappear and i'll find another copy of it uh... the comment that was being made by the path that from the justice department which deal we call it the injustice department and it's apparent when you hear this turd speak Because bottom line, like I told you, it's your mutual liberty interest. What are they? They're terrified of the idea. In fact, they hate you so much, they love these people burning down the country because, again, they want to disarm you so they can do more of that, so they can utterly destroy your forms of government. Most importantly, the instruments that are your property, the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights, the constitution of these of this republic or the articles of confederation which are the at the at the at he said material that created timeline make no mistake about it they want that district is of course remember they want you to be their property well we need to shoot their ass for that one problem like a baby feels to combat at it on drop a rock on i don't care whatever is necessary to wipe these assets off of our out of our country it's going to have to be done and there isn't anything really that's going to work otherwise because they're already telling you uh... equity you have you have to stop yep ideal work mass off or used to work to full-time jobs at a part-time job but on top of that do all the other stuff i did the pay to remove what your point both you have stuff yeah and apply on keeping it to by the way i'm not your property but you open your faith again i'm a stick well i'll pick up off the call or chuck or chuck or something right straight through the back of your head maybe just a bullet i don't know but i feel at the moment but the bottom line is that everybody across the board you better get a case of attitude about what you're with what you know happening again this is the beginning now all the uh... petal meat puppet uh... berries the toro slash obama has moved the mouth of uh... the petal meat puppet where the uh... back alley bar whore with a company pads and those turds are now of course they hit the switch they they capped the gun and now the race begins they've declared themselves and they're going to keep moving and some people are going to be stupid do well you know they don't have that much power remember you're also told that we were going to have the big q take everything over you could sit on your dead ass and do nothing hillary was going to be arrested for four years you know boy i'll tell you what uh you right there at the white house with the look is over at the plane yeah he's waving yay playing golf in florida laughing at that about now guess that didn't work it and don't worry somebody else going to do it somebody else going to do it some else going to do it well you can find out you're the only ones going to be able to take care of this all there is to that anyway um... one of the other things that i wanted to touch on in line with that one of the subject was brought up the thank you for doing that appreciate that uh... because they did want to reinforce that title ten united states code uh... remember they jiggle the subsections around intentionally to create confusion however basically explains that everybody is a member of the militia at large and that there are the what is the active militia which is the military the military are malicious to did you know that well if you go to united states code it will explain in fact if you go to the i'll tell you what go to the bill of rights it will explain to you the division between them and the fact that the active speech the fully active component is considered something to be put in check you do remember that right remember we fought the regular it was the regular army though regular no the red coats mark no the the Majority of the population would call them regulars and repeated that term if you look at any of the writings. Why? Because they were the regular military. We had militia in the colonial states, well, colonial. The colonies, let's get that right, because they weren't states until 19 April 1775. And then once that declaration, once that completion of the declaration had taken place, the rest is history, as they say. uh... most important here is that again the militia actions of the uh... day demonstrate that we had all of the ability of the same potential as any other regular military force big thing with most the propaganda written is to make you know make it not like all the malicious could do this and couldn't do that and we needed a regular army well you see that part of that beat the gong power freak thing And remember how long did it take for that kind of propaganda to be plugged into the timeline in history to replace the original history and understanding of, you know, who's who in the zoo and who's supposed to be, who might think they're in charge but is always kept on a short leash and who's really in charge with regard to the productive people of the nation and those that the productive people, the widows, the orphans, the infirm and the aged. Notice I didn't say somebody wants to sit on their dead ass because they've got the same 24 hours I have and are physically capable. That's somebody we're not supposed to, because they have the same 24 hours in the day that I do. And infirm means like truly in, okay, another problem that we have across the country right now. Well, but the government said so. Yes, that's one of those many devils enticements, so to speak. Oh, I could sit and do nothing. Well, that's true. at the very least if you do that we could do like the media they did and just start doing what what what what all the black panthers about the other black power movement did they collect multiple check they have all kinds of frauds going on and they did they were very proud of it and it's understandable and they plug the machine in so that they could believe the man that's what he's got a breed in the man we got your hockey it's by getting the money from from the system crew up ten twenty fifty hundred different accounts for one person just like they did with the vote to get the up ahead of a problem putting a vote to get better where it got plugged in people because the fraud with regard to welfare social security and unemployment all they have that down to a pat view if you were to parallel here's something nobody's done what you take a look and they did the statistics are available to the government by the way how much how much of a good job i'm now they might not think to alter this but the about of voter fraud I guarantee in numbers and percentage to be typically high in the same places that have massive welfare fraud social security fraud and unemployment fraud across the board Guaranteed they were already masters that perfected it over a 50-year period almost well actually yeah going back before the 70s once the the the The Democrats got their garbage emotion with the great society to the 60s as a limit after that poll mechanisms were set up to build up to steal billions of dollars and they did so just a heads up about the just applied it took the same program and split it over to fake election the same way chills by him sergeant carter chism anyway we are at five forty two one to touch a few things uh... i don't know why you guys look around but the eighty percent they are fifteen uh... uh... lowers uh... look like they're kind of well they're just not out there in any numbers um... that's not a surprise and while the uh... a lot of the pistol frame seem to be out there and i think one of the reasons like as i stated the other day it's more expensive to put a a block knockoff together because there are there are no spare parts but so to speak there's no aftermarket much of anything it's all uh... either tear down cop guns or you're buying brand new market or authorized manufacturer marketed products uh... to slide out of the eighty percent uh... pistol frames so they're not economical in that respect they're useful but a again for the price like i told you with nine millimeter costing as much as a rifle round should what a rifle round pell with the pistols but i thought of the thing let me point something out this is not good for the bad guys because I've had this conversation a thousand times in the last couple weeks and everybody pretty well agreeing because all I have to do is do the comparative study. Hey, would you pay for 9mm? Well, we bought two bucks because it was almost a dollar a round. It's like, yeah, I know. Did you go price 7.62 by 39? Yeah. Well, did you notice how much was it? We found it 47 cents. Oh, 47 cents a round. So in other words, you paid a dollar for a 9mm round. It's a pistol round. which could have paid forty seven perhaps for a rifle round that's going to do a lot more work for you which would be your better choice right now for the dollar spent everybody does the blink in the sometimes a thousand yards there that goes all ahead on about uh... well fact of the matter a lot of people have and go for the bad guys this is not necessarily a good thing because nobody's trying to down-gun when world what this will do is force everybody to logically thank Even if I bought a .223, it's still a dollar a round for a rifle round or a dollar a round for a pistol round and it's 9mm, it's only 9mm. I might as well buy the rifle and buy the rifle ammo. Upgrading most of the shooters that we have out there to the higher level of performance that we would prefer, right? That's cool, I like that. Don't you like that? You should. that means all of your friends and allies even the people you don't know that are friends and allies are people that are like mind with you right now are probably going for the bigger heavier simply because they are i get more for the same dollar amount not just an animal but the gun itself it is cheaper to build an air fifteen baseline rifle but it is to buy one of the clock and make one of the polymer blocks it's the kit part for the all the the or of course the frames of god of two originally guys were looking those what they were sixty eight sixty nine that they went to seventy five and they went to ninety dollars right now i'm looking at one here that you know what i have to have uh... hundred and forty dollars double the price what it was we first are pointing about so okay that that is the polymer one that comes with the jig with everything else available blah blah blah blah blah now i i would point something out all that's where yes okay i'll bring us up i've got uh... Oh, I've got Richard off to the side here going, Mark. Oh yeah, I know. Okay, let me point something out. Remember I mentioned we're doing brass glocks. You see the jig that goes with the Polymer 80? Well, the form that they used basically was the mold pattern that they used was the Polymer 80% glocks to do the brass, okay? Now what they did is after they made the mold, they sacrificed a standard magazine. and use that for the center point to help in the casting of the frame when doing the magazine well. It actually becomes a blank up to ensure that the specs are pretty consistent there. Close enough that you don't have to do much of any finish work if you're smart. And yeah, that Polymer 80, even if you use up all the Polymer frames, or maybe let's say that you just maybe not even put the gun together, because a lot of people, you might think about this. What they're doing is they're working at casting, and they're using the Polymer jig form. to finish the metal cast frame glocks that they're making now. There's nothing that says that glock frame has to be plastic, guys. You do understand that. In fact, if it holds up with the polymer, it's going to hold up with, you know, a friend sends cast aluminum or with cast brass or bronze without any problem whatsoever. Why? Well, because you see those... I would again. Yeah, it's really cool because now that it would I think it would be tougher in some ways but what's cool is those metal inserts are what do all the work and Even if the thing wears out maybe a hair sooner than a regular Glock because they're plastic, right? Consider that well, you know what you take it back to the arsenal and the guy goes oh you need another one Oh, here's your new one and they take the old frame chop it into chunks throw it in the kiln re-melt it cast it again to some another frame and we're back to square one. He never really thought to do that. Most of us would be like, oh man, I can't do that. It still shoots. But seriously, again, Richard, that's one of the guys that's listening actually is the one who did the brass. He's making a set of Josie Wales brass right now. And that's what they're, it's kind of cool because it's already done. He's already made prototyping is finished. He's just refining it. and guys were taking all the fine little we've for instance uh... these are not going to have the picatin real garbage on the bottom of the of the frame why instead solid solidify that and here's another thing that happening with the guy who will tell you this uh... if you look at the clock frames are polymer it's like he did you're all looking for eighty percent stuff right now a lot of people are When you look at those frames, what they're doing is the front, well, let me give you some information. The weak point on the Glock is where that insert is on the inside and the bridge from the top of the trigger guard, you know, on the bottom of the frame, along that arc. So here's what they did. They first of all eradicated the ribs on the Picatinny rail. We left that weight there. but then they change the mold and they arched it and i did it at my recommendation and it looks cool by the way the kind of like a mother hsc but what they did is they brought it across on an angle and that whole front trigger bridge uh... have paid support casting that's all part of the whole casting of the frame and that strengthens up and reinforces yet again that glock frame There's no reason to carve that out. It serves no useful purpose. It isn't needed. We're not trying to save weight. We don't care. It's not that heavy a weapon even if you make it in brass. But the big thing is, can you make it out of something else where you can quickly cast it, easily machine it, and it cranks out or spits out ammunition just fine. Another thing that's tied into that, now I'm going to drop the, I'm going to drop it out, drop the... hammer on this, ooh pardon the pun, we're working on a re-adaption of a cartridge that we developed way back in 1980 to go along, literally 1980 even. This is what I remember playing against, I remember I was talking about, damn we got all this 223556 brass, we gotta do something with it. Now I can make 380 out of that, 380 auto. And we can make 32 ACP out of 223 brass. And we can do 7.62x25 Tokarev ammo. If you didn't know about that, I've got to remind you again, this is why you don't get rid of any of that rifle brass that got squished or it's got a split throat up above. It can all be turned into pistol ammo. But here's the other round it can be made into. We're just going to call it disco, the disco 800 cartridge, okay? Basically, just a longer cut 5.56 using a 30 caliber carbine projectile and then adapting it so it will fit in anything that the Tokarev magazine or the 760 by 25 round fits in. Be that the Peppier submachine gun type carbines only with a 30 caliber barrel, but with a straight chambering rather than a step chambering with a Tokarev round. and though the idea behind this is being able to commit it use all of the uh... extraneous brass so we have the damage we can't really use for much of anything else we can make three eighty auto and would be quite honest it is around that everybody needs right now but we're instead we've got a parallel project which again the idea is to go with a simplified bullet all the other thing is just uh... machining it out of solid brass doing a solid brass or copper projectile with a straight case using the 223 as the foundation. It needs to be able to fit into a peppyish 41, peppyish 43 Tokarev magazine because it will. That's what your overall length spec is. That's what limits the size of the case and the overall loading of the round. It's a straight case, no stepping or anything like that. The advantage of this is a quick production round that could allow us to turn around a boxer prime non-corrosive FMJ AP or the solid shot bullet. that could do a lot of damage and could be loaded up into or into a white bolt-action rifle, semi-automatic versions of the Peppiesh that are out there, I mean, replicating that as far as taking kits, etc., etc., etc., a round that isn't otherwise out there. That's unique, but not so strange that it can't be built. It's got to be... Keep it simple, stupid. Minimal steps, maximum production. Now, the brass Glock... That's not a big deal. The big thing is if we take the same modification for these 80% frames that are then in due not an infusion cast, but a lost, wax, or gravity cast and then experiment to see what kind of flaw issues we have because remember on the outside we don't care what the finish is like. The only issue is ensuring that any of the key points where there are working parts the either the pen passes the the keeper retains the part of the magazine release rest where it's supposed to kill gory khan all the different finish points and as far as the uh... rails go one of the other things that somebody were met recommended was even actually insert casting uh... where you take and make steel rails real carbon steel breaking out a forty one thirty forty one forty and impressing those into a station of the mold and what everything's put together there and take an integrated part of the design. Blocks don't have that, but it's something that could be done so cheap and be ridiculous that if you're being creative and you're doing just brass castings, it wouldn't be a big deal. So there's some really neat ideas out there. Everybody's in high gear. Everybody agrees we're going to war. the big thing now is how many different ways can we crank out what we need and it's gotta be crude i don't want it to go to be pretty any outside it needs to be quick finish wherever it needs like finishing and otherwise crude and abused That's really what the Glock was supposed to be from the get-go. Remember, the Glock was a pass-out, hand-out gun. It wasn't designed to be this, oh my god, it's the Glock. It's a thousand dollar pistol. No, it's not. It was supposed to be like a Bugs Bunny factory gun, where you had all the parts in the middle and the person to grab a part of it and put the gun or the part on that gun, the other person to grab the part that was going down the conveyor, slap it on another, on another same gun, and by the time it got to the end, he just dropped it into a box. And they were supposed to just hand them out like popcorn. and that's the whole idea they've taken an idea that really cost only tens of dollars and told you that it's a thousand dollar dot now which is ludicrous or half a thousand dollar you like five hundred dollar right but five hundred dollar pistol and it's like really go look at the specs and why they built the clock and then go take a look at what kind of propaganda and salesmanship you can you to bring the block to the price it's at The polymer base is closer to the real mark and even there they're making money hand over fist on that. The molds have long been paid for. I'll be honest Mark, that's what I bought it on the hype back in the day when I got my Glocks. I bought them on the hype. Yeah, but again it's out there, okay it's like the AR-15 you don't have to love it. It's out there in force and again if you got a Glock... Oh it'll kill you dead. Yeah, I don't want to get shot by any of those. you know i've been there and that is the issue it was a great propaganda it's up to the propaganda thing uh... marketing is everything with any product no matter what it is what it's in the industrial trades and it's just like vehicles you have a fine vehicle but if they baffle everybody the bullshitt lie through their teeth about it well guess what happens On the other hand, if you've got everybody and you buy a few technicians or specialists on the right path in the right place, they'll write up glorious articles, pay a pat on the head, squeeze on the rear end, and they'll add a boy. And everybody will follow along. That's really what happens with cop shops and guns. I mean, ask yourself, how many, like, well, first of all, all the cops had to be 40 caliber. Does anybody, anybody got their old ammo guns and ammo magazines? Do you have all your old shotgun news? Do you stack them up in there in the basement or over in the boys, you know, the men's room or, you know, whatever you got for a, you know, a hobby, hobby area? Well, go back and look 40 years ago, 30 years ago, and watch every 10 years. Right now, they're going, oh, the 40 calibers. Now, it's useless. Now, it's horrible. We've got to go to 9 millimeter, which, by the way, wait a minute. You mean old 9 millimeter? You mean the 9 millimeter you read, and they produce article after article after article, and you will find the same person's name on the new propaganda about how you all need to get rid of your 40 cal that was writing and telling you all about you needed to have a 40 cal. See how that works? so again i i'm i had a two years here's the bad part if you take this attitude more i love god when you got are you got a clock off wonderful i think it's wonderful it's got some problems which we can you know we were is it it's issues that you live with it's not issue you have to resolve it should you live with them like any system vehicles vehicles have limitations certain vehicles perform under certain conditions not so much under others you know what they are you know what you got to do or can't do Hey Mark. So just a heads up, a big thing is know how to make them all work because you don't know what's going to fall into your hands to keep you alive. And if somebody says, well all I got is this 32 Walter PPK, it's like or an old say 380, a Mauser HSC and 380 auto. Not a big pistol, just basically it's the Mauser, you know, I answer to the PPK but it's a little different design. Do you know how to make it work? Do you know what it does? Well, you don't want to lie, because I've seen a ton of those out there. They were bought back when they were under $100 apiece. Now they're collectors items. But there's still a whole pile of those laying out about across the countryside. Somebody might walk up and just say, Bob, looks like you need a gun. Here's a pistol. Here's two mags. You got one on the weapon. Hold on here. Here's some leather for it. Now put it on your belt. Come with me. You want to swap out that wrist rocket, that slingshot for a pistol? Yeah, there you go. Yeah, well, maybe not swap out. Well, we got to trade. Okay, I'll give you the wrist rocket. You know, you see how it works? Anyway, I heard another voice there. Call or jump in there, please. Hey, this is Carl in Virginia. I just want to say about the 80% pistols, it's a great way to learn how to become an armorer for a Glock. Yep. for everything, every one of these, you're going to learn more about the weapon and again, make no mistake about it, that's another thing the bad guys hate. What has happened, another thing here is that a whole group of people have stepped up and perfected their skills and you know what's one thing they didn't do? They didn't go to the army to develop them. Have you guys thought about that for a minute? When we, well, we, now it doesn't mean you always have to, there's a lot of gun aficionados, never been in the military. But I will mention that what blessing appeared before us and gave the militia its massive ordinance of superiority was the fact that we had so many men that came out of one war or another, I mean we had vets from World War II and Korea who had been armorers on the Garand and the Carbine and the 1911 and the Browning. and because of that when the time came and there was parts available that was there we had we had a a fast learning curve which is a big benefit one of the things that's happening right now that is different is that a lot of the people are curiosity about they're interested there they did the guns are part of the uh... you know the the motif of the movies and video games but it's also that tinker how to stop that you know people have gotten into that has created now an entire element in what is a sub-industrial group that are not military associated. Think about that. There's no way, shape, or form where we don't be regulated by the military before, because trust me on this one, there's a lot of people that could step up and might step up when the war starts because they better pick a side. but there's a bunch of people who are just you know there's their scared because they've drank the kool-aid about the you know we'll punish you if you would disclose the secret bob bob bob bob bob and i mean talk about something that's important got maintenance uh... those people are out there and they've not passed their information on there there's a bunch of like that i know who they are i mean i know people that while you know they were the military they've got that they haven't gotten anything they want to be a people of dope they want to ride out till they die uh... they may not be allowed to that because bad guys are a great idea they're collecting their retirement whatever they're learning that now to their all having their epiphanies right now well sit on your dead ass and off to the side is doing one thing given the enemy strength and they're taking more of your money away every day Hey Mark, just speaking of money, if you think you're going to save money by building from an 80% kit, you're not. In fact, you're going to spend more. If you want to save money, find yourself a used Glock, a Gen 3, whatever, $400, $430, whatever, and go with that and then upgrade as you need to. But like I said, it is a great way to train yourself to become a Glock armorer. Yep. Well, and we are going to be producing more so when you switch to other weapons systems based on the same ideas, you're going to be more readily able to relate to the design issues and design features. All of this is working knowledge that once it's in your brain pan, guys, it may be over in the trim area over by the quarter round and collecting dust, but you know it's amazing how much it'll come back real quick when your life depends on it. And especially when you can see that there's a need. So if you've got it, remember it will be there for you. It's a little more sophisticated than riding a bike, but not much. Okay? It's step by step by step. Rot learning is what it comes down to. Anyway, we're at the top. We're talking about Rot. We're going to get out of here for the moment. We've got to take a break. And for everybody out there, guys, Botash has got some of the Polymer Glock frame. In fact, only got one model left. Everything else is gone. They're not the only ones. But Kay has Ryan. Repeat, repeat. Try Brownell. Brownell may still have some of the 80 percenters. That's another place to look. And again, don't panic on this, guys. Shop around for the best price. Find what works. Brownell's may have the best price right now. And whoever it is that does, you know, run with it and have at least have an example on the shelf. Remember, once you've got something in front of you, you can figure out how to mimic it. If you've got it there, it makes all the difference in the world. This is why we're grabbing every jig we can get our hands on. Every model. So we have every model in hand. That's what the Republic... That's the New World Order. Hail ladies and gentlemen, the Empire is on the run. And we are on the march both day and night. Guys, we're in this together, right now upon you. They've made the first flat down to officially start pissing in your face. Constitution you know the right to bear arms because that's the last form of defense against tyranny not to hunt to protect yourself and the police. Anybody that wants to disarm me can drop dead. Anybody that wants to make me unarmed and helpless. People that want to literally create the proven places where more innocents are killed called gun-free zones. We're going to beat you. We're going to vote you out of office or suck on my machine gun. What do we do? Politicians. No. Okay. Just get any blunt objects together, all right? If you get corners, bash them in the head. That seems to work out. Kick together, stay sharp, and follow me. I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave, in this, the land of the free. and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. This number traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. And keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors, so their children will be. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores, and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic. Arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land. Preserve our great Republic and each God-given right. And pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God-given right, we only watch and tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free? Your training and you will come back alive. Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. This is the afternoon intelligence report. 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Anyway, real quick, the subject has been of course all what, you know, the old, well, let's start this way, the subject today, that I know everybody was probably most interested, what do we think? Here's the reality. What you just had was Barry Satoro slash Obama speak to you like the voice of Sauron. You know, wait a minute. Wait a minute. That's like Star Trek. Or is it the Lord of the Rings? It's Obama with his tentacle up the petal meat puppet sniffers arse, moving his jaw. You there's nothing but that turd that can barely walk is saying by himself or thinking up This is Obama talking to you this you heard Obama today. That was Obama today This is the Obama and yes, yeah, it's the mouth of Sauron. It's the mouth of Obama That's what the petal meat puppet sniffer is Okay, and it's really there. It's right in your face. So here's the thing What's their surprise here? He wanted to oh, man They were ready to that in between when they got that second term boy They were gonna jump off and get the guns and you know what it took them 22 hours and they were already beating the gong once they were ready to go back when Barry Satoro got his second term and Everybody just started sharpening bad apps and loading magazines. And if you want to try it you go right ahead So, we're, it's, you know, so many years later, congratulations. That little piece of trash is still there in the background. He never left Washington. It is very satoro slash old bummer. That is the problem. So we can look at this as his third term, eh? Yeah, exactly. Well, the one he bragged about how he'd be behind the scenes and he'd have some idiot meat puppet. Guess what? okay that he'd be he'd be telling the person what to do that's exactly what you see going on here by the way is card holding communist party member and everything you're saying all the apple but all the terminology is hundred-percent berry sartoro berry sartoro is a problem berry sartoro is on the top of the list berry sartoro is the problem obama is the problem obama is on the list the top of the list as far as who's who in the so it within the the spectrum of the betrayal of america in country dollars plenty of other turds back in his arse up and remember he comes from the jewish mob off the north side of chicago member valerie jared if you don't know who that that would is very she was the brag that she put or bombers a bummer to bed at night he's the last person he'd be go on go into sleep ok other than mike okay micky slash you know that other guy that was in the white house so if you don't know about our charities jewish mob she's all by the way here's nothing i would love to about valerie carat valerie carat is an iranian too no no no no no and kill a ram on iran but i'm about yeah right valerie carat who is a mom of the north side of chicago Okay, but she and her family line are Iranian Jews and if you don't think so you can go find all of the autobiographies about that POS and lo and behold, look at that! What a surprise. The old frog face there is an Iranian Jew. What a surprise. We have one that can see. And hopefully a whole bunch of others now. That's the whole idea. So anyway, the issue here is the 80 percenters. I just did a quick survey, a couple of the other sites real quick just while we did visitor from the past. Just an example, www.80-lower.com, which you guys have dealt with before. They only have two, well no, correction, three examples of an 80 percent left. They are out of everything else as far as the AR-15. I didn't check the AR-10 yet. but they do have jm t carbon fifty air fifteen eighty percent gentle polymer lower with jay with jig for a hundred and twenty dollars which isn't bad for that particular uh... lower they also have a hybrid eighty liberator air fifteen eighty percent lower and jig in black for eighty dollars they then also have the hybrid eighty liberator air fifteen eighty percent lower and o d green which is fine actually that prefer the green over the black Only because it breaks up the color of your silhouette of the rifle right there and that's $80 also, but that's it. Now that's an AR-15s as they presently have them, but I'm going to go over and look at the AR-10 because I didn't get a chance to see. Actually, no, let's do this first. Let's see what the aluminum, if there is, well, there actually were aluminum listed. Hey, Mark. Okay, so that's not a surprise. Go ahead, Carl, I'm looking, jump in there. Hey, this is Will from Florida. You know, I remember the other day when you were reading the little excerpt from that woman in Canada who got police-dated when she was coming back. You know, I was thinking, you should do more live reading. You're really good at it. Well, we've done a lot. And actually, we've got a few that are on file. Ed hasn't played in a while. I've got a short story that I wrote a few months, not even a few months, maybe a month back. I'll send that to you. You're going to still do it if you want. You can read it. Sure, not a problem. Actually, it's only like three paragraphs. It's pretty short, but I think it might work. Well, one of the things, because of the request that somebody made the other day, with regard to readings, I'm actually picking out background music right now. uh... wrote actually edward i'd got to what one of one of our favorites was written by one of our colonial marines sergeant years ago it is called ropes of treason and if edward has that uh... we will play that for the bottom of the are you might be able to take that out of the archive there but it's called ropes of treason but anything you want to have a look at it will be about putting it down and uh... again for some background behind it was kind of fun A lot of the stuff we used to do was just tongue in cheek, bouncing off each other. And that was a lot of fun because you can do a lot of little skits. It's ad hoc, which is really the best way to do anything as far as I'm concerned. You find out real quick, Wellie, how good you are at using whatever is available in the lumber yard. it's a lot of work sometimes but you know for instance everyone of the like the uh... the restaurant piece that we play that it is played sometimes parent top of the hour uh... those are one time take that we did with no editing every one of them and there's a i love i love that one yeah five of those just put the client on uh... with the with i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i On the other hand, it is representative of the fact that people will fight tooth and nail not to see the truth. You know what I mean? Anybody think about that? When you put that in, if they live, it wasn't a matter of it being a big deal. It was a matter of, you know, to a degree in the back. I see, I think that's what really was being presented. In the back of everybody's mind, it's the idea that, well, they call you crazy, but wait a minute, if I actually have to look at it, then I get to be crazy with you. You can't argue the truth. but the biggest problem that most people have their terrified of the idea i don't know i have many people have come up to me after we get american parallel in the years ago some of you are listening right now you know the one big problem after i watch that it's like everything you've heard once you know about something you can't put it away You may want to try and just walk away from it, but the problem is that because of the nature of what it is that you're facing, it's in your face every day in one form or another, and it comes back to bite you in the ass no matter what. and once you see that it's all well this is just a new year you can't do the it was just an accident or we just don't know what they're doing we got a big problem that you'll even hear the control media play that all the old people think that this is all but it's just crazy things just happen does anybody out there believe that things just happen i mean no matter what even when things just happened somebody got the wheels in motion that got the things to just happen the accidental view of history. Yeah, well, that's the desperate naive. It's desperately naive. It's not that you are naive. It's you're desperately trying to be naive. There's a big difference, okay? I didn't know, I don't know this. I'm not listening. This isn't happening. How many times you've heard that and used in the movies even? This isn't happening. This isn't happening. You know, while it's happening, That's also representative of what is a very sad state of the mind of people out there. This can't be happening. This can't be happening. Are you watching it? Yes. Is it playing out in front of you? Yes. Well then obviously it is happening, isn't it? Now you can be in denial, but that trip over to Egypt is only going to last so long and it's all mental, not physical. I was in denial. Really? High river, low river. Are they flooding? Mark that scene in they live I have to do that I have to strap people down in chairs So use toothpicks to hold her eyes open and they still ditch And don't forget you have to have Ludwig van's back, you know, but you gotta have the the ninth remember playing. Yeah that fight scene is just like What I have to go through to just to talk to people It looks like it's time to start building sti Stends with 762 by 39 number four out You know, on that note, let me give everybody an idea for things that could work. Okay? I've mentioned this before, and if you go to Smith's small arms, you'll see a mention, but in the original Smith's, now this is funny because there's a permutation. In the original Smith small arms, for as comprehensive as those books are, the first Smith small arms did not have, they mentioned it, but they did not have an example of the Japanese training machine guns. Now, they were in 6.5 Japanese, but it was 6.5 Japanese training, or what was called 6.5 blank, but it was in reality a wooden bullet shooting gun. Okay. uh... reminiscent of all that right you've got this six point five Swedish wooden bullet told you about many times down there at J&G sales if you look at the design and by the way if you look there's a couple people have done videos one is a decade i've never seen before but somebody mentioned and we've been talking about uh... forgotten weapons okay the kids got a whole bunch of armory study work where he went either auctions or he goes to museums and he has checked out the gun she sat down at a table they leave the thing down in front of you don't you mess it up for your pan for bright and you'll never come back and see another one uh... so he's got a really good job of documenting many weapons will get what he did a piece on the japanese light machine gun uh... training dot Now they were done by, as is typically the case with cadet weapons and training weapons guys, they are usually done by a series of subcontractors. And in this case, there are several examples of the 6.5 Japanese squad training gun. Now understand something, that they were pushing for a much higher pressure round to be used, which was typical when they went, when they were, when we have the turn of the century, uh... of smokeless powder cartridge you know being developed and everybody wanted to have more pressure behind a smaller bullet with pushing a bigger bullet by the way to up to a hundred and ten grain or forgive me a hundred and thirty grain and even a hundred and forty grain uh... six point five millimeter bullets uh... which were out there in force pencil bullets uh... because of the couple pressures were greater within the chamber chamber requirements were more if you know more uh... strict But what's interesting is we have a number of rounds that you should be able to take that basic idea the basic design Slide it sideways over into any one of four or five standard cartridges most of them in the light rifle assault rifle category example 762 by 39 545 by 39 and what you have is a weapon that using whatever magazine or drum would be a tubular flat fire bolt fire weapon basically a skin squad gun Now there is the difference is this and here's where the most common first failing is why does it have to be lighter? We just had this conversation talking about the Glock guys Why not beat the problem of the bugger up? Where it needs to be beefed up to compensate for pressure and Remember a thick wall receiver tube would be a better choice Now you could also beef it up and let me explain to you some basic physics here that you've probably seen but didn't understand. You know, when you look at all these pictures of all these Civil War cannon, there's some really cool stuff there during the Civil War, isn't there? They made some really big guns, didn't they? You do understand when you see those big steps like 12 inch and 10 inch and you know, large, you know, field siege guns, They have those steps where the barrel comes back and then there's like a sharp, you know, knock, and there's another, you know, another section and then there's a big yoke at the end that covers the whole end of the receiver. You do understand that it is three parts. That's not one casting. The main tube is cast, the other tube is cast over that, and the final, basically is the equivalent to the blast chamber or the fire chamber cup. goes over the end of this big long set of tubes and of course these things are all heat stroked together you know when they're when they're they're thermalized they are a little they're they expand and then you remember everything locks together once you let it sit guess what they aren't one piece they're not one single casting now there are some that were which you can tell the difference when you look at the design but remember when you're looking at for instance barrel repair or reinforcing that you can use the exact same techniques with regard to, for instance, barrel construction or receiver construction on a smaller arm. So think, go take a look at some of these designs. Step back and go, hmm. So just an idea there. Again, you need to be doing the R&D. You need to do a little reading, do a little research, take a look at some of the stuff that's out there. Somebody's already gone to the museum where the gun's available. You just want to go take a look at what it is they did. And that way you maybe get a better idea of what Uncle Mark's talking about. Now, trust me that to a degree this has already been done because I'm gonna throw another one at you. If this can't be done with tubular receivers, right, how did they make the .50 caliber spotting rifle on the M106 recoilless rifle? What? Well, you might recall here's how the Sussman-Ackermann group made the B7B. Basically, they took the semi-automatic rifle design that is the spotting rifle on the side of the 106 recoilless rifle, and then they took the feed mechanism for the AR-10 belt-fed attachment and applied that to the semi-automatic spotting rifle design. Only they switched it over to 50 caliber BMG. Well, you can't make a tubular, you know, blah, blah, blah, really? I challenge you. Go look at the M106 recoilless rifle. Do you know how crude that spotting rifle was? Do you know that it was magazine-fed, semi-automatic? Do you understand that it also couldn't be abusive to the gun? because it was mounted on the side of a recoilless weapon and it was a spotting rifle you fired the fifty caliber spotter first man it goes down range you watch for the the willie peat white flash when it made contact and you immediately pulled the second trigger at moon and that one oh six round goes down range and floods that tank yes mark can i jump in this conversation go ahead and jump in there please i'd like to contribute just a little bit about three weeks ago you were just talking about that japanese train rifle and i looked at that in on the in uh... that does the forgotten weapon forgotten weapons yep yet he has a big right up on that and and they were kind of poo poo in that japanese training rifle is yet been found job that they put together probably up with you i looked at it and i thought fairly innovative uh... what the way they've done it there's one reason When you have a true blowback firearm, you have to have a certain amount of bolt weight to handle the initial inertia. And the spring isn't it. It has to have mass. Now, I gave you some technical stuff one time in a folder. Right. We've got all that. Well, if you don't know, we just announced We just made the two thousandth copy of that packet. Oh, you did that? Yeah, like the guys just did. The guys just told me, Mark, guess what we just did? Seriously, I just talked to the crew not three days ago. And they just announced that we just did the two thousandth copy. It's all been binder bound along with the others. You know, we've got two different packets, but that's part of just your work. I went down the road. I got the hole. I got the hole. Thank you for that. But anyhow, what I was going to share with you is on the first disc for the AR-15, there's three pages for the first disc. At the bottom of the second page, it says bolt weight. And at the top of the third page, it says bolt weight. And then it says work formula. OK. That is the bolt weight chart and the formula that's on the third page. It's basically the same thing as duplicated, but one of them, what I've done is I saved the one where I had just the chart and the other one I had the chart and the formula. That is for determining the amount of bolt weight or slide weight that you need for a blowback. Now, the reason that they use 9mm, 380s, even 45 ACP, The amount of bolt weight or slide weight that they need is like 2 pounds or less. Like 23 ounces, 28 ounces, something like that. Exactly. But for the 6.5, that's a hot enough cartridge. You absolutely can't have a blowback design with that. uh... because the ball would have to wait like eleven pound right well no that's not all before they further that's what i was saying is one of the things to remember the problem of the problem we have is the performance of those particular rounds because of the philosophy of the heavier bullet uh... designed into the system for the europe uh... that could change completely with a more of a newer lighter rifle round Now, one of the advantages of that, too, is again, you're still, and I accept the idea, but I wouldn't have a problem with an 11-pound or 12-pound bolt, because lightning up or working up the rest of the design, if we look at this as a vehicle-mounted gun, which is one of the things that we've got to remember where we are, guys, for a little while, you're going to be mechanized. Now, eventually, you're going to pull it out of that pedal, you're going to try to pull it out of a rack, and you're going to try and hold it and shoot it. We've got a solution for that. but most of the time and what we're we really need more armament of the type is going to be with vehicle mounted systems be they bill rep patrol fast attack four-wheelers i don't care what you thought it's the idea that the vehicle the horse does all the hauling that the advantage so we can live with the weight in order to make the system work and it be crude or in construction because that's the part that everybody always has a hard hard time overcoming there's always that idea for a fashion statement so to speak and finish and i think the most important thing we need to do from the beginning is finished is is gone what it comes to this right now it's like i said to anyone all the tiny part need to be shiny pin on the rest crude rude and and you know stand you know screen all the whole story screw blue tattooed will basically tattoo is what it comes out to look at what that's what it is the uh... i a i'm going to be practicing this is just a on making uh... and conversion dies to convert bardin prime to boxer prime yes and what i'm doing about this making some died up and yeah i'm i'm a bit off of the arm i'm down feeling that somebody else's ideal i'm going to use what uh... the sharpshooter twenty three voters You know, they've got a deal where you can make a standard reloading die and you drill your hole in your Burgan Prime case so you can then use your regular reloading dies to punch out the old Burgan primer cup. And then they've got a conversion that allows you to convert the Burgan Prime pocket to Boxer Prime and, you know, to make that conversion. Now what I'm doing is I've taken some 7-8s grade 5 7 8 diameter 14 thread bolts and I'm making a conversion die that allows me to drill out that pocket and basically abuse the die so that way I can I'll have a die that I don't really care about because I don't have that much money in it. It'll actually give me a little bit of a resizing for the Dan Prime cases. But at the same time, it allows me to save my good reloading dies for what's really important, because I can't necessarily duplicate that because I don't have the tooling for everything. But to get back to that blowback design, see, the chart in there, like a 12-gauge shotgun, can become, actually, if you got a 9.4-pound bolt, uh... you blow back and we're shotgun but like fifty caliber bng he's almost there like a fifty four pound bowl like right now that you're working at the nazim that's where again that's why brought up the potty rifle are designed the uh... in fact i've argued for years quietly that i think where barrett got his idea for the fifty is the main thing that everybody was doing back in the seventies and he made his design first as he was a world war of board beaver but everybody was looking at the one of six spotting rifle as a solution for your patterning you know to get an idea and that we've got a standard brawling m two fifty caliber but the other thing was the all the russian stuff that we do is out there but none of us have ever seen i'd personally think that he did most of his brain trust r and d on the one of six spotting rifle i think that's where he got a lot of his base ideas from because if you're a area of your arm when he first came out with a bear and he showed up with it he had one working model and the front end of it look just like the spot except that he had his own he had well correction he used which he did want to admit to now uh... he used first a a compensator that he designed it basically was something you'll find and jane talking about the recoil of spotting rifles and multiple action the other things that they had to deal with if you look at the design his original tool builder compensator looks like it came right out of the textbook okay okay so he already understood you know again the problem with it being blowback we can't do blowback in the bigger cartridges what we can do is in the smaller cases that's what i'm saying is that yeah that would work and we take the idea that they've come up with a recovery but the wheel it is it basically though the same one is the idea that they made it work with the round that they were using we need to you know cross it to something else that we can use that is is with an acceptable limits with regard to weight performance Well, see, when we talk about acceptable limits and weight performance, uh, because the chart, the charts broke down, and that's actually from a book. It's, you know, a milli-, you know, a book where a guy worked all this out years ago. Great. Uh, but even like a 223 requires a seven-pound bolt, but a 30-caliber carbine requires a 3.2-pound bolt. So, see, when you come up, like a 45 ACP, either a 2.3 pound bolt or a 2.3 pound slide. My point is, you can actually make a blowback design shooting a 30 caliber carbine. Because normally 3 pound is about to limit on your bolt weight, but you're still going to have a tremendous amount of inertia coming back. That's why a fixed-mounted gun is a better option with a... What these are are like bridging guns like a lot of the equipment that's represented. He's been doing a lot of reviews on stuff we've been talking about. Everybody knows how many guns out there you can review. Eventually, everybody's going to tap sideways into something. but in the beginning of world war two because everybody does such a fine job of losing on our side they lost so much equipment that they had to start digging into the older inventory and modifying it and the other option was to make weapons that otherwise they would not have even considered but could produce quickly And it's not that the design didn't work. It's just like you said, it's like, well, you get to the point where it's so heavy and the working components are aggressive on the operator because that is true. You know, think about it, that chunk of metal going back and forth, guys, if you have to hold it, you're actually, it's like riding a, well, what do they say? It's like riding a Bronco. you know you're you're trying to hold the dog in place trying to keep the key but i'm target if it was a marksman gun and it was a some other weapon it would be a problem in a squad gun you can let it be around a little more and it compensate for the idea that maybe the designs out of a sloppy but you end up with a better corner destruction downrange could you still can gain control of it the big thing is when you get like you said into a larger amount of weight moving a very short distance that's in critical energy and that kinetic energy back and forth moving with all the parts are you are calculating because they were there's different parts of different things that's where it has come to be a we will wobble bob dot we have a big it biggest problem of personal operator but the thing about it is that uh... there's a whole class of weapons like this that not only did they look at what they built okay This idea, the reason I bring this up is because anybody else could experiment with it. On the 30 caliber note, remember, did you hear what I was talking about earlier about cutting down a 556 case? Yes, I did. Okay, rather than trying to accommodate, see, when I was much younger, it was like, man, you know, we got all this 556 junk brass lying around. What are we going to do with it? And it was like, well, first I looked at it, I thought, man, that has got to be close to carbine. and it was just not that far off but it's too much work to stretch that whole case out of work at the meeting to at least two eight millimeter from thirty out six and trust me that the job but uh... in this case it was a straight to case but it's a thick wall case especially at the base with the way rifle rounds are built was a lot tougher to work from the inside uh... instead instead guys can't keep it simple stupid we have above above bubble bubble bubble up so much ammunition we're going to have twenty two there will be a if you everybody were to do their job and you start no pick up your brass don't leave nothing for the dinks if you pick the stuff up and do what's requested by supply or you are in an urban area you're not going to turn the brass in the scrap you're going to try to take every man our of production and reuse it and anything that required tooling especially So here's the thing that you can produce a round that would perform almost exactly like standard 30 caliber carbine. The difference, it would be in the dimension of the case would be the dimension of the standard 5.56 from the base of the case, because you're not going to change anything there, right up to where the shoulder starts. That's where you cut it, you ream it, and there's where your 30 caliber bullet goes, and it's basically like chubby 30 caliber carbine. for the gun you're talking about this would work perfectly because it's a thicker case it would be a heavier case in general that helped to keep the uh... performance of the gun up because the brass can compensate for a certain amount of the you know energy entered energy of the world the weapon in operation well-tuned and allowed you to yell that allows you to utilize uh... well you could even use uh... cases that had split next is all exactly what's over But other aspects of this is if you're using a slightly straighter case, that chamber reamer is easier to be made. It would be an easier process all the way around. See what I mean? And again, here's the other thing. Guys, we already do this, just for anybody who's trying to wrap their brain around this, we mentioned this many times. Remember when the .44 AutoMag came out? Well, 44 automag and 45 automag originally were 45 and 44 wildcat. And all that they were was Bob the gun engineer said, why don't I make the same gun, stretch it out like taffy, put a bigger magazine under it, take 308 rifle case, cut it down to this length, and now I got like a super magnum, you know, automatic pistol cartridge. and that's what they did that's where those two rounds came from forty four automag and forty five automag worth three oh eight cases and all they did was cut about the shoulder and then take acted down to where they got the performance they wanted that would determine the length of that case they started out right at the shoulder and and they said okay how much space do we need are too big i can't hold that and so they they will be rolled back the case length until they found the combination of case-length and overall shell loaded shell length and magazine you know compatibility being able to build something you can hold onto an example of where this would be come up more a bigger issue later on is the big desert eagles anybody ever fire one but i'm not know for the job is that the if you don't have a big hand you better put both of them on that gun to knock it all that and mark and report that yeah and again the thing is that they would have been pointed that you know there's only so much you could do but they put the they used off the shelf originally those used forty four you know those use forty four remington magnum forty four auto mag somewhere in forty five auto mag summer in fifty caliber they're still making the desert eagle in one form or another i know there's couple companies out there what one company but there's another company making uppers making the lives so the thing is that that you could do this not only with the it would be a five five six round but we're gonna have a plethora of three oh eight rounds sub six two dado thirty-odd six brass that's going to be damage stepped on crush we're not going to try and reform it back to its original form what you need to do is have an intelligent recycling program that put it into the next inventory for the other weapon we know mark that used to be very common I know when my dad and all of them started dying 30 years ago, I found some brass that had been improvised crap that I can guarantee you in my lifetime I've never seen the guns. So, I mean, they used to do that stuff years ago and improvised to make anything work because they didn't have any money. Oh, Mark, I know another caller jumped in there, but I have a question real quick I want to ask you. You are familiar with the original M1 carbine in the barrels. Well, how did those original barrels hold up? The only problem they had, in fact, there is a... I probably should reprint this again, because I have a bunch of the old studies that were released by United Technologies. But it's also the arsenal reviews that were done for Frankfurt Arsenal and Aberdeen Proving Ground. And the original barrels, the only problem they had, remember they were kind of tape... One model was tapered like a Thompson barrel. It actually looked kind of weird, because there was a bit of a bulge also when you look at it glance at it was a bolt but it was a it was it's not a bit being a progressive carl cut or a straight line cut they actually tried to come toward the thing i don't know why although maybe was just style of the day the bearish and i don't know for where well we held up for where but the problem with fitting ok and but that was true with all every company that tried to produce the car being what originally was was being set up for mass production every one of them tried to cheat on the fitting and the barrel was one of the places where they had to or they because they weren't keeping their tolerances up with their full production and in each of these cases including uh... all come on row hydrant not hydromatic come on mark uh... uh... they've been a bottle of all rattle it off if i don't they should have been able to crank it out right away and they end up coming back three times the almost uh... lost the contract uh... and government did want to because you know they needed the guns but the first two times they tried to crank it out where they had problems with a hand fitted the barrel in the hand for the double because they weren't keeping the tolerances up well what they've changed you know when they changed to the straight line barrel for whatever reason uh... apparently there was there was a little less issues and the uniformity and standard in battle we call industrially maintained okay well that's actually do the local barrel harmonics Yeah, I think, but what I was asking is, see the original M1 carving barrel was made out of stress proof. We can buy stress proof steel for like seven, eight dollars per foot. Yep. And it is possible to make, drill, ream, and button rifle a 16 inch barrel out of stress proof. And if the stress proof, and if the barrels originally held up really well or well enough, We can make a barrel for up to like a 223 or a 7.62 by 39 because we're still in that same pressure range of a 30 caliber carbine. So as long as we don't exceed the 30 caliber carbine pressure wise, we can go calibers up to that point. And see a lot of people for years mark, when Obama even up to like 2008, 2010, you could buy a barrel extension for an AR-15 or an M16. That barrel extension was like $20, and they're still like $25, because Brownells sells them and there's some other companies selling them. But if you come up with either a homemade barrel or a barrel blank, or just a barrel off of something else, you can turn a barrel down and put your own barrel extension on it, and it's still possible to make a barrel for an AR-15, you're going to have $20 in your barrel extension than whatever the cost of your barrel is, but it's still possible to make a barrel. And actually keep your barrel priced down there, probably maybe $50, $60, $80, like you asked. I think the reason for the change, the only reason for the change in the early period was reduction in production time and consistency in tooling. They wanted to knock out as many steps in production as they could. But otherwise, the material use, remember that when they were fit, once they started the production run, the only thing that changed is that two of the other companies, Inland, god why couldn't I remember Inland? Inland almost didn't have the contract. All these Inland carbines you all have guys, they almost didn't exist. The third time out with Inland, that was one of the most notorious. Inland, they came in and said, well here's how it works, we're going to give you one more chance to make 500 carbines. If you don't make these right, when we come in, the inspectors caught them because they had hand-tooled the first two batches. Part of what happened there, they were the first to argue that we need to take as many steps off of production of the gun as possible. So what happened is the original barrels were not dropped. They became M1 curbing alternate barrels. that term is it didn't if you look who if the impact on some of the barrels and i've seen two of them years ago because the gentleman that taught me high-powered rifle had had a couple of them and it had a like on the ammunition and world gotta remember guys early world war two we were desperate and losing and what so we needed to tighten things up what they did there is a bracket just like on the boxes of m to alternate ball anybody ever see that it has a bracket and it says alternate right on the box bracket and then you know ball and it is it was it was kept an inventory they could make it is needed if we got really if they if if there was a problem in with the process is that they had with the existing tooling they knew they could make this with multi step tooling with other machinery and that's why it became alternate and it was on standby as an alternate solution until probably 44 or 45, you know, the end of the war. But the only reason they did it was simplification to make it faster and cruder, which is what we said. Why not? We don't wait till the end or when you're desperate from the beginning, just say, hey, if it doesn't need to be shiny and finished, make it straight, make it heavier and just make it. you would have been better with that was an argument it wasn't that what i had yet we had a lot of ideas not that it didn't work it was that they found a cheaper way to kind of like the difference between uh... pre-war thompson and world war one world war two and one thompson you know lay them down side by side what did they do took everything off it that they didn't think they wanted to put you know fiddle with to make it faster and bring the price down Well, see, that's why I asked about the stress-proof steel, because if the original barrel was okay, except for maybe just some, like you said, cutting some design features off of it to cut the time and make it work, you know, just make it simpler, that's what we needed, because a piece of one inch stress-proof steel... can be made into a barrel and I know it can be used for pistol calibers but I didn't know how it held up for the M1 or the M1 carbine but Mark I do want to thank you for taking my call but another man had called I just you know had called in and asked him to ask a question and I apologize to him if I've taken up too much of his time but I'll go ahead and step out of here so somebody else can come in. Okay thank you for taking my call. Thank you. No a good subject thank you for bringing up because I got to pull some of the paperwork out too. There's two other things. title again guys with war production all of a sudden finishing pretty is off always remember that pre-war bazookas i have examples of both of both pre-war uh... when they were first to the r and b just as the war broke out and if you look and i've got examples of the you know two point you know the the uh... two point five three inch pocket launcher versus you know the way it looked at what what production got into play that he used to chuck those out the back door like cord would okay they problem but they were complete okay and if you look and compare it like it had you know the green paint looks just fine forget any other ideas we could parker is this week at laminate or we could we could we could go in c-dol that or no no no no no here's how it works painted will remove it but although the guy in the trenches could do all his war art on it make it prettified himself right if you want to make it pretty he got time on it and i think that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that Bullet weight, your bullet powder, muzzle brake, barrel length and weight, aluminum bullets, and maybe even using an air shot kind of thing for different weights. What do you mean for like if you were doing a recoil in a light rifle route? Yeah. Now you see that's some of the other parts of what came into the formula with, again, like I said, where did Barrett come up with his original ideas? The compensator was immediately designed to reverse thrust, exactly what you're talking about. uh... if you're ever to the left or right of an existing bear you really don't like it why could it a retro rocket guys what they're doing it's good it's taking part of the available energy from one part of the operation of the gun and using it to you know again displaced the moving energy of other parts of the weapon including obviously the bolt so you're absolutely right there and again Another thing, on that note, one of the things that could be done, if you look at some of the Italian designed rifles, including some of the semi-auto ideas they came up with, in what were basically like carbines, kind of like the Spanish with their bolt action, the carbines they came up with, those destroyers, the semi-auto stuff that the Italians came up with, it came and went very quickly. They didn't throw anything away, but they didn't proceed with the process because they considered it too much machining time. uh... here's a compression system where you can do literally a bolt within a bolt so to speak actually what is a kind of a reverse buffer and what it is is the only promise it may cost you know installing a second week new recovery recoil spring and the idea is neat but now you're balling up the plumbing because first rule is to get kept keep it simple stupid however if you can do it in such a way uh... let me give an example I've said this a million times, you know, most everything we got on the M16 we got from the MP44. Well, I want you to do something. You go take a look at the design of the MP44 and see how we reversed the idea. Now, we didn't change the idea of the buffer channel because the buffer spring channel, the recovery and recoil spring channel is there and it's a long recoil spring channel. Again, remember, they did it without any aluminum tube or steel tube for the spring. It's literally a piece of a borehole cut in the wood. Okay, they did a woodpecker. And then they put the spring right in there with a steel, a very tiny, not even full wraparound cup like on a K98. They just put a metal strap on the back of that MP44 with some third grade wood. And you know what? Those things never malfunction. And again, the idea behind the design was to come, you know, was to elongate or to, if you can't, think about this, because you've got to, you either have a short spring and a lot of tug, or you do what we're talking about, long recoil, so that you'll appreciate a lower cyclic rate, which I really wouldn't care about, I wouldn't bother with that. I believe that the lower cyclic rate would be a better choice for us anyway. uh... above the gun that does twelve hundred rounds or fourteen hundred rounds a minute you'll have more hits on target but you're also going to lose more ammunition that's not going to successfully achieve a mark so you're better off with a lower cyclic rate being able to control the gun and so for that reason one of the parts of the formula is if you can retired by elongating the recovery time even with the heavier bolt the felt recoil to the operator is going to be reduced now here's the other thing increase the guns weight anyway remember the basic role by adding more weight and needles to save whatever it is it's moved all of that is part of the physical formula of felt recoil and compensator on the end just as you were talking earlier way to the bullet is another issue because again we can go with uh... any number of materials first first of all we're not going to go with a heavier bullet anyway what what let me add that the uh... subject to by thirty nine would be a hundred thirty grand bullet but it's you know again performance uh... type uh... how it uh... how it accumulates pressure during the expansion phase of the chamber is very different because of how, again, and also how it makes contact with the lands and grooves, which increases resistance, more metal, remember these are all micro-aggressions, kind of like modern cycle bevel, but these are all micro-component measurements that add up very quickly when you're doing this time and time again, one behind the other. And again, the difference is, if I were building this, in this case, like I said, we're looking at wartime production squad gun. magazine fed, not belt, using an existing magazine off an existing rifle, it would be cheaper to build something like a knockoff of the JAP, that JAP squad gun, than it would be to build an M16 type rifle. Making it more valuable if it can be built so that, for instance, another feature we haven't talked about is a quick barrel change. If you're able to do a quick barrel change, then in and of itself, for a squad gun especially, that's significant because, guys, as we've talked about, the squad gun does more work. It's putting more rounds down range. Everybody else is supposed to be falling down and aiming rather than spraying and praying. But a squad gun, especially by the nature of what it may be told to engage, will be consuming a larger number of rounds. It may have to sustain fire longer, which will wear the barrel out sooner. so a barrel change out would be a good idea otherwise you have to accept that uh... how she we will wobble felt in combat is acceptable for a longer period of time because you're going to pop out as you wear the weapon and the weapon will wear faster with inferior materials and increased use Well, it means less tooling and leaving it heavy and you put those big burly guys on the back of it to hang onto it and then also put those little pile feet that they had for the artillery cannons to dig into the dirt. Right, well you know what, I'm going to tell you what we did. We've got a lot of boys anti-tank rifles and if you've ever fired a boy, I don't have a problem firing a boy, but everybody always does this. Oh my god, it recoils. Well, of course it does. but you know what little that we model on the bread and carriers that we have if you model we did is we didn't put it in the ball we put a we put a belt belt fed weapon or a heavier weapon like a twenty millimeter wadi in the front gun station of all of a bread gun carrier we are more it heavy reinforce the armor put like and kept more on the inside uh... but over the back if you're trying to get a picture of the posted somewhere to find it off and see if i post anywhere recently uh... you take the boys we mount a bar and right over the back of the first gun station in the back of the fixture we also do it on a white armored car and what you have is a one-year-old three-quarter inch piece of bar stock on another frame couple of lock pins and what you do is you take that boy's rifle and you slide and you take off the lower support and the support and bipod and you mount the gun on that rail and guess what the vehicle takes up all the recoil now it's not beating the hell out of your shoulder because it can't there's no energy to get to you see that's why you settle it real quick you find something bigger to take up all the recoil the steel doesn't give okay it doesn't know it doesn't know it doesn't even notice it guys 510 vehicle doesn't notice it hey where's the top mark i'll tell you where Again, good point. Thank you guys because there's a lot of stuff out there where we get it. Everybody starts taking fine information, look at it, think about what we're talking about, and our food to radio when we do it. But guys, plenty of examples out there of solutions. As far as the 80%ers go, going through everything, I'll spend another hour looking to see what we can find. But it looks like everybody's sold out except for one decent twosies here and there. Not a surprise, because everybody saw what was coming. God bless our republic. Remember, the vehicle could do all the carrying, and in many cases is going to be the platform for the weapon system, guys. We have to use something else to move it for the dying being, and then we'll be changing out to the weapons we pull from the warm dead hands of our enemy, and it is warm dead corpse away from the seat of the human driving it or even in the dying space. When that happens, then we decide if we're going to strip the equipment down or we're going to make it work again and drive it down the road. Anyway, we're going to get out of the way for now. You guys, Ed's taking over. Our LTR is coming up, and we'll be back at 8 o'clock for the evening air cover report. God bless. Bye-bye.