March 18, 2021
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1h 58m
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2021
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Mark Koernke discussed ammunition and firearms manufacturing, including 50-caliber ammunition pricing, barrel sourcing, and DIY gun building projects using alternative materials like wood, aluminum, and brass. He covered AR-15 lower receiver designs, bolt carrier group maintenance, and spare parts investment strategies. The second half featured Machine Gun Randy discussing his arrest in Florida for possession of medical marijuana, the denial of prescribed medication while in jail, and his advocacy against tobacco companies. Randy also discussed marijuana legalization, medical marijuana taxation, and his late wife's death from cancer.
- 50 caliber ammunition
- ar-15 lower receiver
- barrel manufacturing
- bolt carrier group
- diy firearms
- medical marijuana
- florida arrest
- tobacco companies
- gun parts
- ammunition pricing
- wooden ar-15
- cast aluminum receiver
- spare parts investment
- atf
- gun show regulations
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You know, the right to bear arms is because that's the last form of defense against tyranny, not to hunt. It's to protect yourself from the police. Anybody that wants to disarm me can drop dead. Anybody that wants to make me unarmed and helpless, people that want to literally create the proven places, innocents are killed, called gun-free zones. We're going to beat you out of office or suck on my machine gun. Get any blunt objects together, alright? If you get corners, bash him in the head. That seems to work out. Keep together, stay sharp, and follow me. I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, We've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost. You're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You've I permits to travel and permits to own a gun. permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You trade it in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for what you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise. Take a stand. Defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land. Preserve our great Republic and each God-given right. And pray to God, keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke he'd vanished in the mist for once he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each god-given rite, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free? good evening ladies and gentlemen this is the evening intelligence report i'm a quirky one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters on and behind the lines that occupied territories southwest north northeast and uh... south ladies and gentlemen you're listening to us on libertytreeradio.4mg.com libertytreeradio.com satellite and we are on AM and FM micro stations, CB base stations, and ultra net hallmark in golden spike technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. Good afternoon to all of our friends out there, and evening to all of our friends out there in Lower 49, including the great state of Jefferson along with CONUS, that's how you get 49. Originally, it's the, you know, CONUS is Continental United States, along with the outline two states, territories, and the clock. It is 807 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. It is Thursday, it is the 18th of March, 13th year of open Fabian, the socialist and Soviet socialist occupation of America with a K 2021 old earth calendar, 2021 battle for the republic, dance of swords, and for everybody out there, again a reminder, be careful on the road, getting towards twilight here now, still a little light out there for 8 o'clock. We had a little bit of cloud cover that's moved in, not much, a little bit. The solar meters all were cooking today. In fact, I even got a little light, said, Greg, we're hesitating for the last few days. We're kind of under the snow for the winter, and now they're all bright and shiny. They finally caught up. It takes a little while with those little solar panel cells, those little tiny ones. But I'm looking at a couple right now. They're bright and light. We've got enough sunshine today. Another thing here, remember, just because it's sunny, the wind changed. It went from the south to the west, coming out of the west to coming straight out of the north, and then by this evening, went full circle. We now have the wind coming out of the northeast, headed southwest, and I'm sure it will change yet again. This is classic Michigan Peninsula weather. All you have to do is just literally dial the clock. for the day in the morning coming out of the south in the west coming out of the over and i should have a bid day coming out of the west by the top of the uh... three o'clock our coming out of the uh... east anyway go a culture but there we have Yes, number four here got a couple quick thoughts and stuff like that And one thing is you didn't mention yesterday was St. Patty's Day. So what do we do for that? Oh bloody hell Well, that's okay. My friend just left. We've we firebombed a couple of pubs and by the way I went and bought another little arm of light. So I'm doing fine Yeah Well, I got out of the military on St. Patty's Day and I didn't know it was St. Patty's Day and I'm sitting there in the bar and everybody's wearing green. I said, I got away from all this green crap because we're still using green uniforms when I first got here. Green! So anyhow, the other thing is, what are we going to do about this 50 caliber being cheap as 10 gauge shotgun shells. Should we be buying some more shells? Well, we're now almost full circle on pricing, guys. What's funny is 50 cal has not changed in price. It's hovering right around $3 around for a decent load, a factory load. It makes it right now, by comparison, when you look at where everything else went, everything at least doubled in price almost, except 50 caliber. So it makes it, it's sensible to actually seek out the lower end. I think Mark Serbu has the best priced, lowest priced, 50 caliber bolt action single shot gun. I believe he still has an AR-15 upper, 50 cal also, and both of those are basically around 16 to 1800 dollars for the baseline model. So that's the way, when you look at what an AR is going for, a high end AR, or any of the 308 rifles, the 7.62x51 NATO guns, guys, for just a little bit more, you can have a 50 caliber rifle. So that's where I would go. I'm serious. Like you said, two things that I noticed today, 16 and 10 gauge, and I mentioned this a month ago, that you'll know when they really got to the back of the warehouse when the 16 gauge finally shows up again. Sure enough, 16 gauge is there, 10 gauge is there, 12 gauge, not so much, 20 gauge, not so much. And, well, guess what? In rifle calibers, you can go to every company just about and find 50 caliber, even if there's nothing else. In fact, um... Oh, what was it? I mentioned them earlier. Uh, Atlantic firearms. That's the one thing they did have, even though they didn't have 9mm, they didn't have anything else. They did have some 50 caliber. Now, they might have sold out of the 50 here, but, uh, most of the other places have it. So, it's either build a gun or buy a cheap one. and uh... i haven't checked to see if servo with the with the super guns are you know out there at all available and always making them i just don't know if they have a mama on the docket that's all great when they got back to the end of the warehouse you would think this curve greg killing sticks that boomerangs will be coming out of it well you know it's funny because also the weird load not the weird but it used to be a difficult stuff you'd find that a gunshot You know, but it's almost like they narrowed down and narrowed down and narrowed down their inventory and the stuff has still been out there it just hasn't been ordered because they don't want it on the shelf because it doesn't move as quick and But now because everybody's desperate, you know to find something to put up say they got ammunition down the shelf That's the only reason this stuff has gotten out of the warehouse finally and on the back of the warehouse They found extra doors. They didn't know they had existed with the junk rooms were right What's in here? Oh the wine cellar. Well that got me to thinking about well if ammunition is cheap what about 50 caliber blank? So I went over to Green Mountain Barrel Company and they got 50 caliber blanks up to 42 inches. I'm like okay a man and a boy one on the shoulder can fire a single shot with that. I'm thinking well someone more black powder and some of them don't say What they're for because they're not black powder and they're air gauged and stressed and stuff like that and they go up to I think an inch and a half on diameter and then someone more tapered down to one inch I'm saying well the beefier part would be the part you want where you have it chambered and For a 50 caliber blank that's 30 inches long a one and a quarter inches round on the outside a hundred and three dollars So why can't we take this stuff and start making some singles out of it? Well, they're actually that's not a bad price for even for just black powder projects. What you're looking at the big thing is again There are 50 caliber M2 and M3 barrels laying around right now So you could do it in to fit and not outrageously priced either I mean they went right up to the roof there for a while But there's been some reasonably priced barrels that are used but not shot out or you know Some are new and still in the wrapper not that bad But in fact, I'm looking at Sarco just to see do they have them Because that's what I thought I put a barrel or two on the shelf and start buying some Rounds and then later on I'll work on a barrel a single shot project But at least now if you're gonna make one you've got to make two or three You know, because you got one that's perfected, you got the model there. Right, and again, the big thing is the barrels are the priority. As a matter of fact, on that note, for anything right now, if you really, somebody asked really about investing, look at what they're doing and look at what they've been cutting up. Okay, you know what they're going to prioritize cutting up, even if you do get parts down the road, barrels. If you really want to spend money on something that is a good, sound investment, barrel blanks or barrels for specific rifles like the ar-15 or the ak are a good investment window there remember a year ago where bear creek was was cut in the market and i told everybody by the hell out of them because again uh... look what's happening in fact right now that same barrel that was going for thirty five dollars i just looked at four hundred and fifteen hundred and seventeen and one twenty five depending on who you're trying to buy them from so uh... just in the this window of time you know what kind of a if you look at profit margins if you look at investment okay anything where you could invest this is one of the things where you all of the investment is not what you got a paper stock for something and you gotta go through a third party for person to person disposal and return on on on investment ammunition weapons parts and right now like said barrels bulk carriers anything like that would be valuable because if you're going to build anything down the road which we will be you have to maintain what you've got which we will be then these are things that are going to have increased value and the government is already prioritized destroying them before we got to this point so there are a lot of the big big double plus good thing uh... in the in the air just the cheapest five five six barely could find And in the 50 cals, again, I'd have to look at those. You'd have to call them up tomorrow during business hours and see what they say about those barrels that you found. First of all, they are modern. Okay, the basic rule is even though they may be, you know, intended for something else, typically most of these barrels are too modern, you know, metallurgical and pressure spec anyway. The advantages that you'll notice, a lot of these companies, although again, a 50 caliber BMG is a little different, but most all of them, if they're doing a black powder pistol, they have a counterpart cartridge conversion gun for all these cowboy shooters. So if you're buying a gun right now, if you're buying any of these weapons now, black powder, cap and ball, or you know, their counterpart, they're all going to be to standard, what is the equivalent to smokeless powder spec. simply out of policy you know safety procedures because that's something that most the gun manufacturers in notorious for in this day and age there you know there's a safety factor there because of you know dirty harries out there somewhere he wants to make everything a magnum so they want to make sure that just in case dirty harries around the corner any over pressure something it doesn't necessarily make it the bugs bunny uh... you know ao blossom gun you know the barrel splitting in five directions and peeling back to feet uh... i'm look at a circle circle had some fifties it's a little like really off the off the top i'm sure they still have some barrels i just haven't we have to get out of the page but uh... i know that gun parts corporate got a bunch of barrels and i think they do have some fifties also right now but if all those bills douglas But I don't think Douglas is over-runner in any of these other companies. I'd be willing to bet we can probably do a straight tube barrel and buy it for the time being and still get it for a reasonable price. They'll just ask if you want a chambered or not, and they're also going to do whatever rifling you choose. In fact, they have stock barrels on the shelf right now, so that would be another option. But 50 caliber at the very least, as in if you were looking at, again, what what's been the differential between all these fifty callous state flat for the time being which is a good things so it's now become the most useful uh... which is a utility cartridge you could run into without having changed your budget you know your budget formula for purchasing whereas on you know five five six two two two three slash two two three slash you know everything also god Well the other thing I wouldn't know is what kind of twist I would need The other thing too is on a black powder 50 barrel Could you run reload your 50 caliber to a lesser pressure and still run it out of the black powder thing? Yeah, you could actually do that I mean it wouldn't be a problem in fact if you were to drop your drop your velocities you could even go with other materials including the lead and for the projectile you know that that would be an option but again uh... that would be an after like a second generation you know you know production thing where in other words i've burned the ammo and fifty cal i wouldn't pull a bullet but point o'brile the calbert burn the fifty cal for what was intended you know once you fired around then you either keep it if your chamber like we're talking about earlier you know chamber firing you know to for fire form uh... or if you've got enough of the stuff in the flight some of the sideways for the black powder weapons or maybe if it's long in the tooth for reloading could appear or scheduling your reloading and you know what it's doing uh... at the uh... farther end of the reload cycle the brass starts to you know stretch out new eventually might get a case failure not not that it's going to be a disaster but if you saw if you split that over to a for a black powder charge you'd extend the life of that brass even though it was long in the tooth. You know, because it's going to stretch, you know, you compress it, stretch and you compress it. You go to 50 cal, your pressures would be nothing. And there, you know, if you go to 50 cal, we're black powder. Any case that we have that's that big especially could be loaded to black powder charge. The biggest issue is trying to keep the barrel as long as possible and balancing out. because traditionally, you know, with a powder charge, because traditionally, now guys, remember, be careful on this, when you were doing like 45, 70, 50, 70, 44, 40, 30, 30 Winchester, 30 caliber projectile, 30 grains of black powder, that is the formula. Remember, if all that second number, the 30 caliber, the first number determines caliber, the second number determines powder charge. or with original black powder cartridges. So in theory, 50 caliber could be loaded literally, you could dip the case bare almost, squeeze a bullet on top of it, and with 50 caliber, no way would you over pressure whatever you're using. Low pressure, basically high velocity is the best way to describe it. It's like a baby tank gun. So the advantage is that unless you do something really weird like impact the powders, that's something we haven't even talked about. back in the sixties that was a real popular process and even experimenting with black powder and smokeless powder combinations to create what would be stacked powder charge now guys don't do this at home anymore but there are people who research this and there's a lot of write-ups on it from uh... say nineteen well they did it well they can't just say they did it then back when they did the elephant gums they did stacked powder charges back then with like the, they were, like the other guys that had like these, you know, 500 and the 600 and the 700 Nitro Expresses. Those are straight cases. They would do stacked layered powder charges. The initial charge burned and it would, instead of it creating a massive pressure spike, it was kind of like a series of retro rocket charges, one behind the other, so that the pressure curve was much longer. but you still ended up with this increased pressure curve by the time it got to the fourth or fifth powder burn and each powder progressively was more volatile there's a bunch of write-ups on that and even stuff that was in many of the there was usually even some write-ups and information on the idea in a lot of the powder books done in the sixties early sixties so if you look around that's why I don't know when you can don't pass up old reloading books they've got information the other books newer don't have that's why nothing is obsolete in in re reloading manuals guys powders may have changed but some of the ideas and things in their tricks of the trade they're not necessarily in the newer text and i'd nobody really talked about doing layered powder charges in recent years that i've seen anywhere mostly i would say it's because of their fear if they put it into a publication that there'd be some kind of liability issue with some ambulance chasing lawyer but in the in you know before the seventies i would say that you've been given the seventies there were quite a few readups on that talking about the way the way that they got around the liability issue i think is because they've they've looked at it from the historical perspective so in theory you could do that with water with black powder the only difference would be fake granulation would you what would the power what would the what would the power surge burn shift b from say heavier grain black powder used for for instance cannon which by the way the fifth caliber case you could actually get away with going to mid-grade rifle going to a finer primal powder like you use for pan powder which is supposed to be the same anyway using the charge depending on what flintlock you're using But a lot of guys like to use two different, if you know some people. Used to be we'd use the finest grade powder for the pan. And so you'd have a powder horn for your charge. You drop that, and then you'd use the other powder charge. You use the smaller powder horns so you could differentiate for your primer for the flint pan. So you'd get a more uniform and efficient burn and pretty well much more reliable. So that option would be available, but I don't know what black powder or pyrodex is available and out there and what the situation is with it because everything in powder has A, gone up, but also availability is down because everybody's been buying the hell out of everything. So that would be an option. In layered charges with 50 you could do, you have sufficient case for it, and then looking at the length, you want a 40-some inch barrel. It's got a 42 on this page. Yeah, well that's a lot of barrel to work with and again when they were doing this, remember the big ass elephant guns, you're looking at a what, a 38, 39 inch, 40 inch barrel. Look at some of those Cape buffalo guns, double barrel guns that were made back you know 1880s to 1920, right around there. Well, to fire those nitro expresses, you have to have all their cupola and crew comments with it. They have to have the piss helmet. If you're a little dude, you have your safari guys push on your back before you fire at the elephant. I say, you know... Hold my back while I fire these double nitro. That's why I don't fall over for the second before the second round is needed, you know. I'm not going to pull both barrels at once and take my shoulder off. But yeah, that's that is true again with the big thing here is that this is all stuff been done before again If you're dropping that kind of if you're dropping down Then you could actually even get away with cast bullets for 50 cal which nobody talks about it all but you start looking at it is like okay if I If I couldn't get the propellants that I normally would use How could I use the 50 caliber and get it to work for me? Now I would want to get hit with that 50 caliber lead round going down range I mean, you could press the envelope, you might be looking at around 2,100 feet per second, and even then, that bullet's gonna get a little malleable on the surface. You could drop it down to probably 1,800 feet per second, dial it down, dial your charge down, which black powder would that be a problem? And you could also do all kinds of neat things, like even put a copper penetrator in the middle of it, or an iron, or you know, bore the front of the bullet, insert dart. in the center. And what that would do is remember we've talked about this before, the lead, especially if you cap it, the lead works as a lubricant going through armor, going through body armor like, you know, Kevlar. And now that's if you start dialing going back up the other way especially. But remember, your lead is, if you've got to watch this, because at a certain point, once you start going into the upper end of the ballistic range with any lead slug, you're going to start melting in flight. That's a fact. That's why we don't do, you know, we only work so much with lead in rifle and at a certain point it's like defeat the purpose. The bullet doesn't get twist. How much twist do you want per foot on a 50-BNG? Well, that's just it. You know, if we were going to go with a black powder charge, in reality, whatever they're probably doing for present 50 caliber muzzleloader would be fine. I don't know what that radical would be, the rifling twist on a black butter piece as it is in the 50s, or the 50s, what the hell, what's the most popular right now? Probably 50 cal is the most popular right now. Used to be 45, 50, 52, 55, then we had 65. Yeah. You know, I mean Hawkins guns, used to be a ton of Hawkins guns out there. Hawkins knockoffs, and they used to be cheap. Used to be a lot of hundred dollars apiece. And that's really where a lot of these barrel ideas came from. Well, some of these barrels I don't think were meant for black powder. I think they may have been meant for the 50 pistol round or something similar to that. And they say they're air gauged, distressed, relieved. and rifled in a different right wing but that some of the barrels will say that for bp and some will say paper barrel i have a lot of you are getting the the it would it's a matter of what we're going to do it if we're going to if if we're looking at using a standard fifty caliber bmg first of all it needs to be it's going to be to be thick wall uh... and again douglas used to make a straight barrier bill get a fifty caliber straight barrel for eighty dollars that was that was rated for fifty bmg and they would chamber it for you for another eighteen dollars i think it was so but i'm going to tell the still with less than a hundred dollars for the barrel And that was a brand new barrel. Problem is you get 50 caliber browning barrels at that time for $25 a piece. But when you bought the Douglas barrel, you knew you got a Virgin and they were very, very good about putting the thing together. So if you had more barrel than you needed, sometimes if you bought their, I think it was a 62 inch stock blank, you could cut that in half and make two guns. It was not chambered. If you got the stock blank, it was long. I mean, they'd build as long as you want, if you're really goofy and think you want it. But you can't remember. You start getting to a certain point, then they start adding dollars back to that. But their base blanks used to be very, very cheap. That's why Douglas was the go-to company for R&D Research and Development for the longest time. all who else is out there there's a dozen other cars other companies the biggest promise right now you're competing that if you want find somebody who's already doing it like you just did you know black powder you know the black powder companies are those are in that you know pistol heavy pistol rifle uh... not so much right like you said black powder rifle uh... they're more likely to have something on the shelf right now but otherwise the biggest problem you got with everybody else is you're competing for machining time against the five five six guns Well, you're also competing for metal, steel, the good quality steel. Well, it's everything across the entire inventory. People aren't appreciating it. I just was ordering parts today and they flat out said, you know, I could get one side but I couldn't get the other side. And it turns out that there's four parts already on back quarter and I made, or no, three and I made number four and there's no guarantee that I can get what I want. and engine parts and it's like, well wait a minute, okay so you're telling me that normally this would be like, you know, it's like with manifolds or anything else, you know, if they do left, they do right, you know, you do, you know, so many, and if you are changing them out, granted, I mean, you can change one out, but if you're doing that, you might as well just rebuild the whole top end, don't cross the board, I don't care what it is, whatever part is it, it just makes sense, well, one's going bad, the other one's probably shot. Manifolds, of course, just can crack. It'll last forever, but it's just the idea of purifying the engine. As we get down the road here, more pumpkin junk stuff will come out instead of the good metals. So I'm thinking, I need to look around for some 50-caliber barrels that aren't black powder, that have the better metal, that are at least a 1.25 outside diameter. uh... why don't think like you said that the m two fifty caliber bros are out there we just have to look around and nobody's really jumped at them it's just like the ammo there i mean there's a year there's a there was enough out there i will say this i will point out not that fifty caliber ammunition is the following okay let me point something out before you went amo what out of business here just a short time ago uh... guys two dollars and seventy five cents two dollars and forty three thousand he was all fifty caliber ammunition selling out all the time so just a heads up for a vehicle which by buying fifty caliber that's why it's there no that's not true because we are powered and i go to the report which i love i love your power just like the the bs programs of um... now we have the articles are in government about thirty out six we're trying to trash talk it And it's like, oh, but for those of you who like to cruise, be overpowered, 30-06 me over here in the corner. I like that grossly overpowered stuff. I'll take it. You don't want it, I'll take yours. Okay. I get very few grenades, but I got a crap load of nukes. What shall I want to drop on my enemy? Because your growth loads are powered. Yeah, that's what I got. So, you know, guess what? Boom! Oh! Yes, a flash in the dark and it's Captain Neutron and marsh gas and mushrooms growing 24-7. Well, sometime in the future, Mark, if you get a chance and you have time, check out Green Mountain and any other places at 50 caliber barrels you'd recommend if you find any that can be put on the shelf. Because I'm thinking under $200 that's a good deal. I think a 50 caliber M rifle military 50 caliber blank is going to cost more than $200. I think they're about $500 last time I looked. Well, they're like, that's what I was saying. Okay, Green Mountain. Oh, come on. Wow, that's really cute. Is it greenmountain.com? It's Green Mountain. Now it's GM rifle. No, no, Green Mountain, okay, it's Green, what, no, the website, Green Mountain. Yeah, the website is, yeah, the website, the name of it is Green Mountain Rifle Barrel Company, but the actual Web ID address is GMRIFLE barrel. Hmm. Okay, I'll find it. It's just not long before. Again, riflebarrel.com. Okay, well, I'll track it down, because there's not one that every time I'm trying to go to it, it sends me somewhere else. I do have a really delightful web page here on solar energy. Okay. Because it automatically went over to Green Mountain Energy. Yeah, but that's okay. That's not you. It's whatever's going on with my circuit. You put green in there. It's either gonna be the greeny weenies or the green Martians or the green teeth of the President of Biden. Yeah, one of the other things here real quick is somebody's asking. The difference between the M2 and the M3 is the M2 is the infantry, the M3 is the aircraft mount. A lot of times people don't want to use the aircraft barrel because it's a little, it's not as tight, guys. Remember aircraft guns were designed to patter more. and the M3 barrels just require a little more work to tighten them up, but you can do it because we're not going to mount it onto an M2 .50 caliber frame. We're going to make this into a single shot, you know, intermediate to long range gun. Right now, look at it this way, even if this gun, even if you could build a 50 right now, it would only do 750 yards. Do you want to get hit with a 50 caliber M2 round at 750 yards? I know I don't. Not so much. I know Mark, isn't it funny how they say, grossly overpowered, like it's a bad thing? Yeah, well that's part of this panty waste thing. It's like, you know, I'm not going to be mean, but I will be mean. Okay, understand, remember again, We're building plastic guns with metal inserts. In the past, we would never have done that. In order for us to do that, we had to back off on the performance range for particular cartridges in this country. And what we did is we conformed to European specs, which were always lower. Okay, just a heads up. That's where that Glock pistol came from. Okay. Otherwise, oh, by the way, I gotta mention this, and you'll like it, number four. Guys, remember we talked about a Confederate Glock? Does anybody remember what I said on the air? A Confederate Glock. A glass brained Glock. Well, they built them. One of our guys heard what I was saying on the air and he showed me the pictures two days ago. I was going to mention it yesterday on Weapons Wednesday. We now have Confederate Glocks. Remember when you used to buy the black powder pistols? You could buy the steel frame ones for about $47. but you could buy the competitive the confederate version and brass frame for twenty nine ninety five yet well guess what uh... and you know what's funny if they didn't infuse a good basically a car just a brass casting they shaved everything off uh... they've all put the of the what they did if they want with the steel insert the exact same steel insert that's on the regular block build that out plugged it in and the thing runs like a stupid thing or sewing machine but it's a lot heavier making it a much more stable gun platform by the way like shoot if you like you know like performance grade glocks this is like a match grade glock like it's got a like you put an M and M weight barrel on it but it's not the barrel it's the brass frame and after all if that polymer frame is working brass works just fine I don't know how many they're going to make, but he made two already, and everything was available. What he did is he took an 80% Glock plastic polypolymer frame and used that for the mold. everything we always were needed to be and then uh... after that all he did was arrived with was with the in the future of you know i guess you did last week of the finished it and i've already seen the pictures of it but i had they choose does everything is supposed to do so we have a confederate block production line now well the next one you need to tell him to make this one out of granite now we could call it a rock clock rock-block Well, again, this is part of the other option is wood. I mean, after all, if we can do a wooden AR-15 lower, shouldn't we be able to do a wooden Glock lower frame? Yeah. Yeah, all that metal insert does all the work, right? Yeah. Well, we'll see what happens. But anyway, the brass works for any problem. The other thing that, and I will, you know, since you're here, the other thing we're working on is a flat aluminum cast AR-15 lower. It's going to be the chubby stubby guys. What we discussed, I sat down with the guys about four weeks ago when we were doing the subject of the wooden ones. And the idea is that casting the biggest problem you got, you know, it's either going to be forged or it's going to be out of billet, right? Well, we don't need it to be all felt like a regular AR-15 lower. It can be chubby in the spots to make up for, you know, again, pressure and, you know, energy. But remember, the lower doesn't take that much abuse. It's the upper that does all the work. So you make it extra chubby in the rear. When you bore your, when you bore the buffer tube, you just do what you normally do, but you're looking at three or four times the thickness in the back wall. We don't care. You're not adding any weight. Hardly, I mean, we're talking a few, you know, tips of an ounce. but uh... the other thing is like the german no real mid-war production rifles the only place where it gets any finishing is where it needs to meet some other part well sell that to the greeny we used to go love it because in the carpenter as a term i can turn it back to dust goes back into the barbell one one although it works fine no those are perfect we've got that and that that's done in fact the blue with thing we're joking about right now is we could do it in walnut you know they give you a walnut or receiver because they've got a pile that i just donated to all of because but but right now we would get marine plywood i guess if you're saying we were doing piki well but but marine plywood we guys got a hold up just fine we are you don't met fender metal in search for all the parents and uh... that's done but the uh... the uh... the next thing i guess that it should be stubby aluminum one the word that we actually do the same thing that could hold them as they will there's no reason for you to make it you know i guess it felt you know the air fifteen what it came out the e one of the a one are quite what you want to especially are quite narrow guns especially simply kept the but stock basically the same dimension as the body of the receiver the big changes they thickened up the but stock to make the accommodation for the uh... that you know that parts trapped rear clinic at everything but the review look at the the original e one stocks member they didn't have any trapped they were very narrow by comparison they kept the gun all for light well i don't need to do that and we're still using light materials uh... in fact uh... the big thing here is uh... try to find like i said do it with all the cheapest part you can for the lower keep the cost down so you can afford more uppers And casting would work just fine. In fact, it could be in brass, but right now we're experimenting with aluminum beer cans. So it's just going to be an aluminum beer can casting. And I mentioned that, that site did mention that, didn't I? What we did is they milled out, they took over to one of the CNC shops, we took to make the mold for the magazine well, just took a regular magazine, walked it over and told them, hey, make a steel cutout. and do it in, you know, whatever mid-grade steel. And so they made an exact, you know, they made a blank up for the mold so that the magazine wall is already pre-cast virtually to spec. The only thing you have to do is cut out the magazine release and needless to say, drill all the usual holes. And the only other thing that I don't have, which we can actually, you could tool that in, is the micro-fine threading for the gas tube. But that can either be done with it with a tool or you can you know get a tap by a tap We could have a tap made and just be doing me. Yeah, man. It's done crude rude and fast and the other consideration was the discussion has been Why not just pin the buffer to if you've got a chubby stubby rear end and you make the impact you could even make a custom buffer tube It doesn't have to be standard wall. You could go extra thick with the you know low-end steel instead of aluminum and what you do is just simply do like you do for pinning a barrel. Just run the drill right underneath, you know, score the very edge of the metal. The buffer tube isn't significant with regard to any tremendous trauma or energy that's going to destroy the weapon. Remember, it's a long stroke piston designed to take that recoil and dissipate it over a much longer timeline. Well, because of that, your energy applied is minimal. And I would remind everybody again, we could even just do a buttstock made out of wood. And while we're looking at that... And your piston can be made out of PVC pipers, or even a wooden dowel. Yeah, the Germans didn't even have a buffer tube, and if you look at the MP44, go look at the MP44, guys. The MP44 has the same idea in terms of a buffer, you know, the recoil spring buffer spring system, the way it's set up. If you look on the bolt carrier, look at how the bolt carrier is assembled and what the, what that channel on the back of the bolt assembly does. Okay, now when that rides in there, when you put your recovery spring in there, that's just a whole board into what was basically punka-junk wood that the Germans were using. Here's what's fascinating, there's no record of those stocks ever failing. Not in the time while they were in service, but also after World War II, nobody changed the design. When the East Germans were carrying the gun and made a batch of new ones, they of course just copied the design off the tooling they had. Well guess what? The service record shows that there was no failure of the stocks, no failure of the recovery spring channel. Now here's the thing again, they then took those weapons and gave them to the Palestinians in Lebanon. They also sent them to Syria. There were a bunch of them that went to Egypt, so they were in every one of the Arab-Israeli wars. And once again, there's no significant identifying feature of any kind of failure with a gun. They're built like a big doghouse. But the weak point in theory would be that wooden buffer channel, or I should say main spring channel, in the stock. There's no reinforcing around it. They just got a little metal tab at the back of the buttstock. So just a heads up, just because the stoner did it the way it did, which is cool, and we can mimic it, it doesn't necessarily mean that that would be the only way to do it to make the AR-15 type weapon operate. Hey Mark, I was showing you information about the guy that made the AR-15 receiver in stacked plates. and he stacked them all together. That would be the same thing basically as going on with the plywood except it's three panels of plywood. Well, four. Yeah, exactly. You could do, there's no reason not to. Well, I was thinking about taking that same thing and just using the two side plates and putting the wood in between there and having the pins going. If somebody's worried about strength and material, have the pins going into the metal, two side plates, and make a quicker kit to tool up. Exactly. This is the one thing to remember. The accuracy of the gun is up above, not below guys. The barrel, yeah. Think about it. The one neat thing about the Air 15, it's why you can drop a .50 caliber on top of an Air 15 lower. Because all the work is done on the top end. Those two little rings hold that barrel up on there. Yeah. Well, and consider that, again, for sight alignment, once you have that sight system, affixed to the performance of the barrel, no matter what barrel it is. Guys, if you de-pin it and put it on another lower, your point of impact does not change. Think about that. That's the most critical issue about shifting from one to the other. So, that being the case, if it was a hybrid wood sheet metal lower, an aluminum cast lower, an all wood lower, a polymer lower, or an aluminum standard, there's nothing significant about the bottom except for durability how long will it keep doing what it's supposed to do but it can't make the weapon fail what you think about that what make what is it that determines the real cost of performance of the weapon that opera receiver And the biggest complication to the upper receiver is the bolt carrier group. Right, the bolt, and that's, and there's, in fact, thank you, because that's the other one, people were asking what would be another investment for what they're doing right now. Well, bolt carriers. If you're really going to keep cranking out of the Air 15s or you're going to keep the ones you got running, what's the thing I've said for decades? And by the way, the enemy knows this, okay? The basic rule is that the average arm in a military force has a constant use lifespan of approximately two years. Now, depending on how you design it and what kind of good or crappy materials used for the perishable components, firing pin extractor and ejector, determines how soon that weapon could be out of service for lack of spare parts. The CIA calculates about a two-year combat serviceability window for a fighting force if they started from zero, and they had a whole bunch of weapons. What would it take? How long would it be before they would be at combat ineffective? approximately two years you know what changes that formula and box with their head what i've said every year i've been on the air here by a firing pin extractor any check during this turbine all the other spare parts reach gun you've got and already have them in hand now for the biggest problem of the bulk carrier group is the operator loose and pieces and parts not just disassembling it in a clean environment that he can catch all his drippings Great. So again, this is why spare is on board. The only one thing about it is, like I said, all these polymer guns that are out there right now, they're using these cast polymer stocks with basically just reinforced little channel bars inside. Guys, you've got all kinds of storage space on a lot of these guns to carry all of the spare parts you would want without significantly increasing the weight of the weapon anyway. you know look at like like the top or one of these others if you open that up you never have to climb shell system look how much dead space you've got in that and there's other goofy one the israelis made it just doesn't look right it's just a clunky wonky thing but you know what there's a whole lot of dead space in there and if you were looking at you know you could even carry tools in the damn thing but you know the air fifteen uh... the a one uh... stare forgive me the idea of the a one or the a two both of them have the same but stock storage If you weren't as worried about the cleaning kit issue, all your spare parts could go in there and you carry the cleaning kit on your combat load. But the spare parts are with the weapon, so no matter what, you don't lose. They're not separated. They're never separated from the gun. You know, because, again, firing pin, extractor, and ejector. How many for the AR-15? At least one, but ideally, like extractor three. Why not? Look how cheap they are. They just had a deal on extractors from one of the companies here for $3.25. Firing pins you can get for about $5. And then ejectors, that's a penny item. Okay, we still have more but not much. But it's the idea that you can either do that or hey, how about spend the money and buy two or three extra complete little bolts. I've never ever seen a firing pin fail, especially those tungsten ones. uh... you know maybe they have somebody else breaker bent or something i've ever seen well it is where no it's where i'm also because remember with the military automatic fire remember you have a be what happens like we talk about before with a problem with the firing pin is all certainly that will handle plenty of heat it's the idea that it is that patient contact point is going to wear down. Now, if you're doing automatic fire, if you're using an automatic fire, it's transferring calories just like everything else. And what happens as it gets soft, then if needles say it peens, it'll either peen or it just wears better, it just starts to wear more surface-to-surface wear. And so that's where you have a problem with either A, the shoulder taper coming through the bolt face, it shortens because what happens is every time it slams on a round it's getting it's getting mushroomed or you know you can't see it but it's literally being fat slap back in the other direction and eventually what'll happen is you get what it because uh... you you'll see uh... a lot of fish and how the world goes to happen what the fish and uh... contact to the primer so you're better off the weekend again here's another thing remember i mentioned as many times what first most most probable issue carbon come back through and we doing its way in along the firing pin when it's in the recess position while it was just rolling around inside the air fifteen cuz remember it defecates wordy and so what happens is half the time it's not really the part of the problem it's at the cap or it should fully disassemble the damn thing take and break out the tools get back into that channel up front there and get that carbon out of the front in fried all the buff firing pin channel Just like on the this happens on most every other military weapon out there at one time or another if it's not that it's a grease like with the Mausers remember we mentioned this before I Don't know how many Mausers people tell you man this thing just doesn't shoot I said did you did you clean it and you know everybody says what do you mean? I don't know how to clean a gun Did you disassemble the bolt and clean the grease the packing grease out of the inside? What? Did you disassemble the bolt? It's not a big deal. It's a Mauser. It's real easy. Did you disassemble it? And you open these things up and they got packing grease so thick you have to hold it and to take it apart. Lo and behold, the guy who put it in storage did a good job. Fill that sucker full of cosmoline or full of packing grease. And what's happened is that grease is being impacted. It's being scraped and impacted to the front inside of the bolt. And so you pull the trigger and the firing pin would like to go farther, but there's a certain amount of mass in the way. So what you do is you disassemble it, you get in there, let it soak in some gasoline, let it soak in whatever your favorite bore cleaner is, take your pick, put it in a tray, come back out, get a dowel, cut it, make it, take a wooden dowel, cut it like a flat blade screwdriver, and then get it down in there and twist. You don't need to use steel to do this. It's lubricant. It's just caked up lubricant. And the other half of it is carbon because I'll guarantee nobody ever did it. At least if they did it was a long time ago, the gun might be a half a century old or a century old. But you get in there and you're going to find first you're going to get the grease coming out. Then you're going to get this, you add some more borer cleaner because you're still going to have to break it up some more. And you're going to get this, looks like coal dust. Well, what is it? Well, that's the carbon that came down to that stupid tiny little channel parallel with the firing pin while it's moving. When you worked it back, you know, as you open it up, there's a lot of gas in there in that chamber. And if you were fighting a battle, how many rounds did you fire, one after another, after another, after another, after another, after another, after another? That's a small thing, but it's a small thing stacked with repetition. And carbon is an amazing material. It will find, like water and electricity, the path of least resistance. So when you drill, Sergeant, when he comes in to spec your stuff, you'll find that he's a carbon. Every time somebody talks about the M16, I remember the time when in the barracks we were getting ready to get an inspection that some idiot had to take apart his bolt carrying group when the little spring went flying. I heard someone say, oh, F word. And we were on our hands and knees for 10-15 minutes and finally found it and got it all put back together before we got inspected. So I remember... Don't think it saves you the tile floor. Or wax cement. Take your pick. That's also why the military wants you to have good eyes. Well, one of the other things here real quick, somebody just asked me what I'm talking about real quick for cleaning out the inside of the bolt. Even on Mauser's and Fields, I don't care what it is. What I'm saying is you take and get a wooden dowel, guys, that's a little smaller than the channel that the firing pin rides in. And then what you do is just take it over to the grinder and cut the front end tip of that dowel like you would a flat blade screwdriver. Okay, just literally make a slot, a slot blade. now what that's going to be is your little grinding tool when you put it down in the channel there if the word is going to work on the on the carbon and on the grease but it's not going to hurt the metal you're not going to go or score anything that's why i'm saying use the word though somebody just asking their because the word though it isn't going to be abusive to your hundred dollar you know hundred-year-old firearm or fifty-year-old or ten-year-old where i've got a report it is uh... but it's one of those most commonly failed items in terms of somebody following through on now remember that you have the pipe cleaner what's the pipe cleaner for in your your m16 cleaning kit guys gas tubes yeah and the second part is for what guess what it's for that little channel I just told you about the firing pin channel hey Mark so again that's why there's a there's method to the madness as they say go ahead call or jump in there almost like I saw on the wire just earlier some gun show I forget which which one it was, but one of the big gun shows, Serk, is now banning cool goat guns from being sold. That's one of the shows in Pennsylvania. Yeah, if you go to Guns and Gadgets, he's covered it, and they also made a response, which really sounds like they're working for the feds. You know what I mean? In other words, using the PAP response that they were given by the feds. I guarantee that whoever it is, came to them told them what they wanted or the state police came and told them what they wanted uh... the only person i've ever seen it a gun show well no i won't be there's two one of them he's dead uh... bill goodman now people don't like bill goodman he was a big guy he ran the bill goodman got a knife shows but you know what with a one the fed showed up if he spotted them he'd go right over to the microphone he goes hey guys how you doing today just a little heads up ATF's in here right now. Now you think anybody out there, and you'll hear, Hein Dins will do that today? No, they're so busy pissing their pants and trying to lick butt, it's ridiculous. So they didn't think this up on their own. The feds came to them and coached them and told them what to say, what to do. It's just like these manufacturers, remember a year ago we knew that they were going after the AR-15 supports. i've been told you on the air well everybody denied that you know what first we found out one company did that we found out they knew about it a month earlier all that it turns out they were all way back in january so then this case uh... it's part of the political correctness agenda a lot of people don't have a fine to begin with but you know good money he'd he'd mail their head the other hand and i don't know about his son because i don't know if we i think the good man shows are still running but bill goodman they're dead dad he was a big man i think it like six seven and he was a big man but he had no love for the bat faggot he would be with walk around the show he'd talk you if you said about that bag of first you do his attention and then he'd tell you what he thought about him you know what I mean hello called a bomb contract by my mind randy i had somebody trying to call and i'm got not to say right now Okie doke, well again you're ready to go so we're almost to the top here guys and Randy's gonna be right up here behind us so don't touch that dial once we're done it's tagged. Oh we got a good one tonight. I'm gonna hand the baton over Randy. We got a good one tonight. Best of luck. Very good. And for everybody out there again guys, reminder that there's a, I didn't do it tonight I'll do it again tomorrow, that, oh come on, CDNN investment. is for some reason selling out their AR-15 parts inventory. This chunk of it, and everything is penny, but you have to buy either a hundred count or a five hundred count to get the really good prices, because otherwise they're not here. They're wanting to get the stuff out right away, which I think is rather fascinating. The pins and such are in nickel apiece, seven cents apiece. Everything we were talking about tonight, a lot of small parts for the AR that are the things you lose. Well, you can afford to have five or six or seven of them in each gun, not that I would, but you could. We'll do more on that tomorrow night. God bless. It's posted in the Liberty Tree Discord, guys, from yesterday. Thank you very much. Go to the Discord, guys. The information's available, and you have to call the order in. You cannot do it by email or by over the computer. You have to call in, there's a count of how much each part they have there. So you can see exactly what they have available. I asked him, is that count accurate? He goes, yes, that is. So it is tens of thousands of pieces. So you're not part of the getting hardly at all when you buy 100. Seven dollars you get probably equivalent to, we'd all about want $20 worth of 10. Each one of the types. Okay, it's 100 of this, 100 of this, 100 or 500 if you want to do 500 or more. Anyway, God bless our republic. Death to the new world order. We are on the boat, day in and out. Check that dial, because we got Randy coming up right now. God bless. Bye bye. I got a $100 bill, friends. Cackle, clap, I'm in it. Must think I'm dumb as a rock. Reading me the news while I'm kicking off the shoes and it's scared my block. 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But you gotta call 712-6-1-2-1. 4 3 2 0 900 activation colon must 9 5 7 4 6 4 pounds star 6 will be new to okay I'm down in P Largo and having a good time now we came down here I wanted to get a floppy Joe shirt and to meet my sister-in-law's friend, Rick. Well, he was at his mother's house and taking care of things there, and he said that he wouldn't be around. And funny how things happened. We was on our way home from Michigan, nice and plate, expired like every Michigan nice and plate up there practically. Can't pull this over. She finds my medical marijuana and you know, no matter what they say, Florida does not recognize marijuana cards from anywhere other than Florida. So they put me in jail, told them I had liver cancer, hipadob, not hypothydicea, but diabetes. And for four days, they deprived me of my medication. And during that time, my stomach turned into knots. I couldn't sleep, I couldn't eat. And it put me back. My blood sugar, I had it at 130. Now it's up at 245. And the nurse, she took it and she said, well, that's not bad. And I said, three days ago, It was 1.30 and it's been 1.30 for a long time. And she acted like it didn't bother her none. Well, it didn't bother her any. So I finally, my family, God bless them, called around and they made a day of phone calls, two days of phone calls, four days of phone calls, calling everybody that they could think of. I was getting ready to tell them to do what I did when my wife Pam was passing. She needed to go in for chemotherapy. She could not ride in the car. She was in so much pain. So I took and called the governor. I called the congressman, the senator. I called the White House. And the next day, the ambulance came, took her there, made it, brought her home. had me sign no papers, had me sign no papers, and that's what happens when you take action in your own hands. And I was going to tell them, but they already had it. They got a bondsman up in, I believe, Flat Rock, Michigan, and gave him $7,000. $2,000 is for a lawyer. And the other... If I don't show up, they're going to keep it on stage. I'm going to show up. I'm thinking that maybe my doctor that I got to see Monday because I didn't get my port put in because I was in jail. And I let them know what was going on. And they let me suffer completely inhumane what they did. There was no call for it. They could have took me to the hospital and got some relief. My lepicide met a woman. I couldn't have that. They didn't give it to me. They came in and asked what it was, and I told them I needed for diabetes. So when Mills came around, I gave it to my cellmate. Ortega, I forget his first name right now, who tried to call me earlier. And I tried to answer it, but the way they asked the questions from the phone company there, it goes out. Now my family, especially Chris, Stacey, Samantha, and Cass, all of them, they're wonderful. I was surprised when they came around and told me to get my stuff together because I was going to be getting out. Anybody on the phone? What was I going to say? They met me out. And when I got out, I was supposed to have a cab prepaid to take me three hours over here to where we're at now. And we're at the Belmont Inn in Key Largo. Real nice. Hahaha, and I don't come here. Go any place but the bell mount. It's run by people that don't know how it is. There's dust all over the tables. The floor's got paper all over it, you know? So yeah, if you're in Florida, if you're here in Naxi Lago, bypass the bay mount. I'm here because I'm waiting for a plate to put on my van because it's... expired and that's why the police pulled me out, pulled Cassie was driving and that's where it all started at. So I'm not moving it until I get that place. And I get my IG. Yep, Chris got her license. So it's been a pretty hard four days and I know it's stupid what I did and everything. But there is a thing, compassion. And that's all they needed to do. Give me up to the hospital. They were just very proud of themselves. Yeah, they're pigs. I never did like police. Remember how I tell you over there in Michigan, we got the cops and donuts. We got a bunch of stupid looking cops. Yeah. Hello. Hi dad. Hi. So tell them what you did. Well, the first night we went to jail, I was on the phone with Cassie and she was trying to figure out what to do and Stacy were trying to calm her down and she pulled away because they told her you can't really just stay here and she had a room up in Homestead. And it was $500 a night just staying too large. Oh, so he was trying to get back to the room and it pulled her over. Well, they pulled her out of the vehicle, accused her of being under the influence, refused her a breathalyzer test, made her do a field sobriety test. Even though she told them she had red poisoning or a metal poisoning, I'm sorry. And they were just doing anything they could to try to get her to go to bed. They tried so hard to try to get me. They waited for me to drive. And we were on the phone and we could hear this, but we couldn't do anything. And so Norm finally decided after they left Cassie alone and told her she was free to go, but told her she needed to... or go to the hospital because they couldn't prove that she wasn't intoxicated. Mind you, they never arrested her, but they said they couldn't approve. I said to them, well, I'm getting ahead of myself. I apologize. Norm called the sheriff's department directly and requested somebody help her because she was terrified to leave afraid that they were going to pull her over. every time she got behind the wheel of that vehicle until she got off that two-lane highway. So they wouldn't help me. They wouldn't help me at all. They told me to just sleep in my car and, you know, you'll be fine. And Norm said, no, that's not acceptable. It's not safe for you to be there and we're going to figure out what we can do, which led to me getting a phone call. from your buddy, Officer Jorge Moreno. That's the officer who arrested you. She says it carefully. Oh, he's the brick that did the pet. No. Oh, he is. Definitely very proud of himself is all I can say. He's an asshole? Well, most piggies are. I apologize. This town, this county, is Police County. You sit here and you're watched to agree and go by every couple of minutes, five minutes. They can't tell you how it's like. I remember when it was cool for what, an hour? Yep. But Tom Hayes, this is... Go ahead. They just, you know, they look for any reason to pull you over so that they can cherry pick. That's exactly what they did to you. And... Yeah. So, after that whole experience of speaking with your arresting officer, as he told me, he's like, oh, I know all about your father. He's having special gas. He can't talk over us. Really? I said, yeah, I don't know. Hey, Randy. Who's the special gas? Hello, Rand. This is Ray. Yeah. Ray. How you doing, guys? I'm doing good. What's going on, man? Yeah. I came down to Florida here and having a good time and they got me with my medicine and they're fucking with me. Well, I got a lawyer and it was taken care of, swept under the rug. You still in Florida? Yeah. Yeah. I met Key Lago. I met Key Lago. Yeah, I saw you a couple of years ago, man. That's nice. So we're gonna be going back through Georgia, but we're not gonna be able to stop Chris has got to be back to work Yep, and I got I got my appointment Monday to see what they're gonna do. So anyway, yeah, so Yeah, right great to hear from you, but I'm gonna get on with what I'm talking about here, but listen up. Okay They took and What they did should not have been done. I should have been able to have my medication. I'm just now two days later after taking my medication. 24 hours. Yeah, and I'm feeling, and I was the other night too, and I'm feeling 70% but I gotta be, it's gonna be a rough road. I'm waiting for my plate to come in. Dad, I hear that. It was overnight, yeah. Your prescribed medication that you take, did they deny them to you while you were in jail? Yeah, they did. Okay, you need to contact the American Disability Foundation or whatever. I have the number. American Disability Foundation. Yeah, you might have something there. I spoke to them once already and they said they couldn't only help you if you were being mistreated. And to that I had to tell them, well, I don't really know if he's being mistreated or not because he's in jail and I can't talk to him. Yeah. But one of the things they're not allowed to do is withhold medication from you. Did they give you medication? No, they don't. No, it put me back on my cancer. I don't know what it's done now. You know you're supposed to eat good and everything well, I got maybe two bites of oatmeal and other crap and I couldn't eat it and I gave it to Ortega Angel Angel ortega I've been I forgot his first he tried to cough and I didn't I didn't push the thing I didn't push the right buttons or something. So I'm gonna have to send him a package tomorrow Let him know that we're cool. So anyways, I think that people should boycott Florida. They're assholes. And I know they got great fishing, but they do in Alabama too. They got it in Georgia. So yeah, boycott Florida. Let them know that we're human. You know, we got things going on here and they refuse to look at it. And now I'm laying around with my never hurting and stuff and it's not good news. So yeah, I am going to get ahold of that. You got that down? Yes, we got it. Yeah, I'm the disability whatever. I was going to tell my lawyer about it and I still am when I talk to him. Let him know how I was treated. And it is against the law to withhold medicine. And they knew because they looked through all your medications when they were going through your car, when they were going searching everything. They knew they went through everything that you had. Now while I was in there, You know destitute and everything and of course I'm praying every day. I'm putting my heart out and it worked. I told the Lord if I'm doing right with these shows show me something, give me a sign or something. And when I got with Christie this morning in my medication box, what they went through was 10 of, not 250 roaches. So is that a sign? Yeah, that is a sign. So it was rough, but you know, I don't have PAM now. So if I had to stay in there a while, other than not having my cancer taken care of, you know, I could put up with it because... Yeah, it's stupid. You get screwed on it. It is. So, um, yeah. 9.30. 9.34. 9.34. It's time for some music, guys. Things were looking bad. Seemed like total style was the only friend I had. Full of oatmeal tried to stare me down and won. It was 12 o'clock before realizing I was having no fun. Now, but, fortunately, I have the key to escape reality. And you may see me today with an illegal smile. It don't cost very much. Tell the facts. How to treat Tora Most of them are Cuban, but I won't be back in this side of town no more. I like Florida, but it'll be up by Port St. Lucie. Oh, Angel tried to call the show, but it won't, he can't get through. But he is trying to get calling, he's called Stacy twice. Yeah, cool, he knows. And so hey, Rob, this Thing the floor that's going on. You know what else is happening? we got a whole bunch of people smoking cigarettes if they can go anywhere and get them and Hey, they killed my wife. You know that I thank them because I don't have to watch her smoke damn things anymore I Don't understand why they let I Don't see why they let people smoke Cigarettes the way they do our They talk about our help bill It comes from cigarettes most of it alcohol if you didn't smoke cigarettes or drink alcohol You might make it 90 and you might not I didn't drink cigarettes. I didn't do none of that all I did was smoke marijuana and I believe my River came from Agent Orange, they're thinking. So for my liver, they paid me $12,000 for it, would be Vietnam Agent Orange Fund. And they received over $180 million, and they put it in a fund, and they were paying us from the interest of that fund, putting the screws on us again. And then Jimmy Carter comes, no, no, no, no. Was it Jerry Ford? One of them two long gone guys. They came in and they cooked and I lost it. So let's talk about tobacco. They make too much money with it. I mean, how do they make money when they're spending all that money to try and heal somebody? And when they're done, They go right back to smoking and they're in there again in a year. I went through it with Pam, you know them Tobacco companies they are serial killers. They killed more people Hey, they're the worst terrorists we've ever had and They allow it. This is really screwed up here They won't let you buy marijuana legally because it's on a federal list in Washington. And which by the way, Washington, you know, if you don't want to go to Florida, go to Washington because they do not mess with you in Washington. As long as you're not on no federal land. And they don't mess with you. You could go to Colorado. Hey, you can come up to Michigan. It's recreational legal. That's why I didn't have a card. Nobody buys medical marijuana cards anymore. It costs so much and you only get so much use out of it. You got to go buy another one. You get discounts though, through your medicine. Yep. You do get a discount with your medicine. Yeah. Not no $300 worth of discount. No, but the tax is lower. It's a medicine. There should be no tax. Absolutely. They got a 3% tax on medical marijuana. Why? It's medicine. Do you pay taxes on penicillin? Do you pay taxes on Thorazine? No, it's medicine. But all of a sudden, a marijuana patient's stuck with 3% tax on $100. It's not much, it's 3 bucks. But you do that over a period of years. I don't know. Tobacco companies suck. Not only the tobacco companies, it's the growers. It's the people that work in the factory and make the cigarettes. It's the clerks in the gas stations that sells them. They're murderers and they get away with it because We got lobbyists that go in and make sure that tobacco stays and that's why marijuana don't come in. And they know, but they don't care. You know, what is it? The New World Order? Calls for a two-third reduction in the population by I think 1938 or something. So... Tobacco is not the way they would do it though because it takes too long. They will do that with the covert or something like that. But the... But they said people who smoke have more apt to get the need which makes more money for the medical field. And the insurance companies don't say nothing about it. You know when you're going through that, it costs a lot of money. Hemotherapy. expensive and we wouldn't have as much of it if if tobacco wasn't in there. Like I told you before my wife's family lost eight members in five years. Brothers, sisters, fathers, Lucille died of old age. But yeah all her all her brothers but two. There's only two sisters that that's out of eight people out of eight siblings and the father and uncle and they all smoke cigarettes Bob gave my My son saxophone You can open it up and smell the nicotine in it from 50 years ago and that's a fact if Something don't happen You're gonna die of nicotine poisoning because uh, probably everybody I know except for Chris, her husband, and Norm, everybody else I know and my family smokes and they know how I feel about it. They're addicted already. The kids, the teens, they're using them paper pens and I gotta sit there and go through it. I just hope that people are listening to what I'm saying and will somehow come together and close them, them, tobacco companies down. We're tired. We've had too many deaths. I've had too many deaths. It just pam. They cut my left arm off when she died. And what do I know about cancer? I know that it kills you and I know where it comes from. It comes from cigarettes. It comes from tobacco, cigars, pipes. So what do you think should be done about it? Just let them keep on killing us. Do you enjoy it that much that you want suffering on all the people that smoke it? I think it's time for them to put a stop to it. I mean... I know I'm not the only one out there who has lost a loved one to cancer from cigarettes. And it just didn't start. It's been happening all along since the... So, time to stop. Time has come today. I know it's going to take more than a day. Unless God comes in and puts them right down, we could always hope for that. But, um... There's nothing worse than a cancer death from cigarettes or anything else. You know, when you start going down to them last few days and you know, what do you do? You die. Because you enjoyed cigarettes for 40 years. Well, everybody dies. Ain't nobody. No matter how I struggle and strive, I'll never get out of this world alive. That's old Hank Williams saying. So light up a cigarette and sit back and think about what you're doing. Look at your kid's face when you're blowing smoke rings. They get amazed. And then the next thing you know, they're blowing smoke rings for their kids because they look cool. Going through the air in a circular motion making different designs. And that's one of the best ways to get a child going on cigarettes. They'll grab it, take it outside, light it, and try to blow their own smoke rings. And the next thing you know, they're stealing cigarettes from dad. Now he kicks your butt, but it don't stop. So, I don't know. Maybe, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe cigarettes are good and the weed is bad. If that would be the case, why did I get the fine that I got? Why did I get that sign after I asked asked the Lord what I was doing am I doing right? Show me a sign. I come back here and I found what I found enough to get me home and It's rough this whole whole this whole week this whole past year has been rough. I lost Pam the cigarettes. I lost my cigarette, I lost my sister with cigarettes and maps on her head from falling. And I buried her daughter with her who had died a month earlier. She was a diabetic and alcoholic when they moved the couch around there was like 60, 60 pints of cheap vodka that was in there empty. And All of it. Except for my mother and dad. They all had things from cigarettes. My brothers arteries were clogged up. But I don't know what it was. Me and dad was in the store getting ready to buy a pack. And he told me when they go over to buy a pack I'm going to quit. And they was a dollar and a nickel. And then he quit. Didn't touch him again. And two days later I quit. Nobody else in the family can do that. Ma, I never did smoke. But I gotta tell you folks, tobacco kills. And there's one thing about a tobacco death. It's very painful. And it's very long. It don't go in a day or two. You get cancer back. No, it takes a while. Sometimes it takes years. It took 10, five years. And I blame the tobacco companies, I blame the government for allowing them to operate, I blame the insurance companies for not standing up to them. They're paying them bills for the chemotherapy, insurance companies is. And that goes off of our health budget. Who are they trying to kid? I know they get probably around a dollar forty five tax money from every pack that is sold and it's just useless to sit there and puff on cigarettes. That's going to kill you. They don't do nothing for you. You know, when you quit smoking, you got to find something to do with your hands, you know, try eating the pretzel, a long pretzel. That'll help you and if you really want to quit smoking and you got some bucks go see an acupuncture they can they work and I don't know what it is about it. It works, but it works. I remember in 70 not 72 82 New York City guys being interviewed he actually puncturing crack abs and it's working He hits them with them needles and they stay in about a half hour 45 minutes then Takes them out the cat don't need no crack no more. You got to come back next day though But as long as he keeps going back that doctor still doing it for free I'm pretty sure that after a while He got off the grass because it works the same way for cigarette smokers. It's a What do they call it? Oh well, I remember it sometime, bring it back up. But cigarette smoking is, I can't say anything more about it. It sucks. And anybody that continues smoking cigarette after seeing things that happen to my wife and her family, you're nuts. You're nuts. You let your wife continue to smoke them cigarettes. I tried everything and then there was no stopping it. So, go on, light them butts up. As long as you're not in the state of Florida. Yeah, yeah, I'll be glad to get out of Florida. I got to get back up to the house. I got to get back up to the house and take care of my health. I'm working with the Lord on it and it's in his hands. So now we're here again about tobacco. Why? This is 2001. Why are we still letting people figure that? I've already been showed the way. I've already been showed the way. When I got here today and seen what I found, that was a sign that I was looking for. I asked Lloyd to give me a sign to let me know if I'm good or bad with him on this, and there it was. So all we can do is badger the government, make a law against lobbyists giving them money by your boat. That's what they're doing. They give them money, they get that money, they can't say yes to marijuana because they was bought off. They showed you the vote and I'm going back to Florida these last few minutes. You know, it's a nice place, good and warm, but they need to be shown that they can't do what they do to some people. You know, I know they go through a lot. But that cop, like they said, he was shining. He thought he had busted a drug king tent. Well, he was a prick. And they told me that they had my daughter pulled over, she was going to be going to jail too. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So the next day, Angel Ortega, we got a phone call made. He had his card and he made the phone call and he had to talk because they won't let people use other people's card. And I would tell him what to say and we found out that they're going to get it together and get me out. I got a wonderful family, folks. I'll tell you what. When Pam was passing, they made us model family for cancer patients. The hospice lady came through and said she's been there and argued with no arguments. We all agreed what was to be done before major decisions were to be made. And then when anybody suggested that we would try to change anything, we already agreed it didn't matter. So we just offed up to what you guys wanted. Yeah. But yeah, now. after taking care of their mother. They're taking care of the old man. And that hurts. It's embarrassing. And I'm 72, still going to jail for marijuana. You know why? I stand for it. I've been standing for it since 68. And it's done nothing but good to me and most other people that use it. Now on the other hand, tobacco It's not that good. They killed thousands and thousands of people They haven't put any deaths on marijuana Peanut butter has killed more people than marijuana That's a fact because marijuana is killed nobody and it's keeping me at peace and not I'm not taking no pain medication yet. I got to get up to Michigan to where I can start doing my chemotherapy. Then that's when the pain will start. That's when they'll be giving me medication. And I hope that they don't have to go up to morphine or anything like that. But hey, it is what it is. Nobody goes on and on and on. Like I said, no matter how you struggle or strive, you ain't gonna get out of this world alive. So... Your grandkids, your granddaughters wanted you to know that they love you. All your grandkids love you. That's nice. And they're very proud of you. I know that. Yep. They wanted me to tell you that. I got great grandkids too. I gotta say the one that melts my heart is Noah. I got him blowing so he'll become a sax player. He's got a $100,000 saxophone at his grandpa's and we're leaving money behind for him to be trained by a good saxophone player. So make sure he does not get around no nicotine. Make sure that he's ready to fill his lungs up with air and blow that sax like his grandpa did. Bob, he learned to play the sax at the Purple Cane's mansion. His mother made scotch whiskey for them in the basement. And Bob was the age of the guy gangster's son. And he had his son start taking saxophone lessons and Bob couldn't go around when that was going on. So he snuck behind the curtain and he listened. And in the end he was playing in the Benny Goodman band and he was playing with the Tommy Dorsey band. And now that sax that he had, pre-World War II brass, put the tone on it but cannot be matched. It was the last rack of sax that came out of the York foundry. They pulled it out and they moved it across the street to cool it and the factory burned up that night and they never reopened it. So one of these days, who knows? I'm hoping Norah will be there. I told him his name on stage. He'd know a blue. He'd say, you know, saxophone players, they'd lose movement and he's got the deepest blue eyes. But, um... That is that is the way I look at it tobacco companies should be gone tobacco companies could be wiped out and Without I say I father who I am having hallowed be thy name thy kingdom come thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven Give us this a daily bread protect us from my trespasses as we forgive those trespass against us Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For that is the glory, the power, and kingdom. God bless. Amen. I'll see you Monday night with the Bethel and the Manual. Hey, Raymond. Give me a call back here, buddy.