March 10, 2021
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1h 1m
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2021
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Mark Koernke discussed the M1 carbine as a practical defensive firearm, covering its history, availability, specifications, and modern applications. He reviewed current pricing and sourcing options from importers like Royal Tiger Imports, explained various stock configurations and accessories, and fielded caller questions about carbine design innovations and ammunition availability. The episode also included recommendations for preparedness reading and commentary on firearm investment trends.
- m1 carbine
- 30 carbine ammunition
- firearm preparedness
- royal tiger imports
- farnham's freehold
- robert heinlein
- ak-47
- sks rifle
- second amendment
- defensive weapons
- magazine capacity
- surplus firearms
- bullpup design
- vz-61 scorpion
- atlantic firearms
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constitution you know the right to bear arms because that the last form of defense against tyranny not the hunt to protect yourself from the police anybody that wants to disarm me can drop dead anybody that wants to make me unarmed and helpless people that want to literally create the proven places this is our killed called gun-free zones we're going to beat you the new out of office or suck on my machine what do we do politicians Look, okay, just get any blunt objects together, alright? If you get corners, put the fashion in the head, that seems to work out. Keep together, stay sharp and follow me. I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate. And your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press. and you pay attacks you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame to number traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children will be murdered. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for what you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise. Take a stand. Defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land. Preserve our great Republic in each God-given right. And pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke he'd vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as Tyrant trampled each god-given rite, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave, dill the land of the free? evening ladies and gentlemen this is the evening intelligence report by parker ky one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines and occupied territories west southwest east and uh... south you can get a little bit listening to us on liberty tree radio dot for m g dot com liberty to radio on satellite and we are on a month f m micro stations CB base stations in Ultra, Net Hallmark, and Golden Spike Technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. Good afternoon to all of our friends out there in the lower 49 including the great state of Jefferson along with CONUS, the Outline Two States Territories, and the clock, 806 PM Eastern Standard Time at his weapons Wednesday. It is the 10th of March. It is the 13th year of open Fabian Socialist and Soviet Socialist. occupation of america with the k two thousand twenty one birth calendar two thousand and twenty one battle for the republic and and that's been a pretty day it was yeah i look like you wanted to rain it's actually been windy uh... first came out of the east wind and shift and came out of the south southwest and it has been a seesaw back and forth all day so and gray but that Springtime, well actually late winter, early spring. Let's make sure we get that right. Don't put in your cold weather gear away, it's not done yet. At night with a weather shift, very critical. You can easily die of hypothermia this time of year, more likely than if it was the middle of winter as we would say. Everybody out there pay attention and make sure that you make the effort. whenever you are active out there that you stay focused on what's happening around you don't which brain great day drift or you know go into brain fart mode can't afford to see a lost anyway weapons Wednesday couple things real quick I haven't done this in a while a book you want to read take the time and look around at what's happening right now far numbs freehold by Robert a heinland i have a first edition or part of that f a r n h a m apostrophe s part of this free hold that's the name of the book by robert a heinland heinlein over the classic and if you get a chance take the time again there's wreak there's reprints of it but uh... anyone mom anyone will do or affect i know sure you get the uh... mass market paperback you get forty nine copies used uh... from two dollars and thirty cents up you've got to find hardcover twelve dollars and thirty cents and there's some coalesce some more and to brand new unissued original first editions hey wait a minute my isn't brand new but it's pretty close seven hundred and sixty eight dollars and fifty seven Hey, cool. Anyway, and one collectible for $150. Hey, wait a minute. There's quite a shift in price there, so. Anyway, kinda cool, but most important is for $2.30 you can get a copy, put it on the shelf, and have it and make sure it's a physical copy that does not require electronics or batteries. Instead, you read it. It's called the book, B-O-O-K. Farnham's Freehold by Robert Heinlein. and take the time plug it in and go check out your new search a final number of ways to pick it up and they don't course i'm lined up a lot of other work you might recognize starship trooper uh... stranger a strange land that was when that came out that was the with high line at that particular point i was the book that literally ran across the country and is very popular with not just i five but you know a lot of other people just looking for interesting read if i kept your we kept your brain going uh... far from freehold works the same way but especially what you're seeing right now take the time to read that and look around you on co-op wonka on co yeah far nums freehold robert a high-line Anyway, just touched on that. Now, couple of the things. I've had a lot of questions. I don't know what this is about Matrix stuff like this last weekend. This last week it was Tahoes. Couldn't find the Suburbans I was looking for, per se. Not many. You know, I probably if I dug harder I would have, but Suburbans, not so much, but Tahoes, like in groups, are enough that I could have put an operational tactical mech team together with Tahoes. hos all the same color all white all of the same years which i think we're other fascinating all different owners but all at the same time popping up well about you but asking about the a month carby and i will say that number one their in some carby name you know she was still hanging around out there and korean carby namal works just find the koreans have been carrying the carby in for a long as we have in the u.s. military of the koreans are far as pentakorean wars but that way of the koreans ever really dropped a completely plus the koreans support the carby as it is a third or second country weapon at this time second tier third tier others carvings all over southeast asia there in different government handling the uh... all around the world still very popular because of their size and because you were american made although there are copies uh... the big thing is that they're also several countries that made a knockoff of the car being but not the m one carby take it would take the magazines took the animal But otherwise it was a completely different weapon, but basically in the 30 carbine line in terms of size, barrel length, and volume fire, and both in semi and select fire. Now, the carbine is out there, and for the longest time I would say was parallel in service with the AR-15 in terms of numbers. In the last several years with the kickoff of CNC machine rate, that has changed because obviously time waits for nothing, no machine, no man, no land. And it still keeps rolling along. But the carbine is still out there by the millions. It is not a, well there's a few hundred thousand carbines, no, there's millions of carbines. God knows how many were carried back by troops. uh... many many many were sold by government were sold by the uh... by cities when they have from the from the fed the government sold them through the uh... civilian marksmanship program also just through d o d sales and then there's the import sales that we can see in the latest wave coming from the philippines south america held all i'll take it back the latest batch are from Ethiopia if you go to uh... royal tiger import cg effect go to the videos go over to uh... you tube and punch it a royal tiger imports and and one car being and they will the latest batch they even have a really good videos of what the place look like where they got the guns from and because it is dry a popcorn far over there that would save those weapons in many many many many others but the car beings are still coming in now they're not seventy five dollar guns or fifty dollar guns are hundred twenty five dollar guns like they used to be in fact even about the time of the uh... s chaos is coming into the country the car beings were really at a mid-grade of about one twenty five to one fifty apiece for a part of governor universal or ideally a plane feel that would be a better better than the universal ball all of them work and certainly apart error u.s. military gun would be fine but uh... for about one twenty five one fifty you could get a nice really clean really sweet operating and one car being if somebody did not a clean it i used to buy him for seventy five dollars apiece can i even ask me sure you know how to clean it not told us before take care all of that while i know how to clean that gone and it's not work right you are not all k i'll take it i take it home i take it out of stock a clean up the gas tap it you know system there and she'd run like a bigger sewing machine up until that point she was again malfunctioning why nobody ever clean the gas pit and it was just carpool pages it was it was great great great black gray over everything okay but the uh... car being as a defense weapon paulia side carry one right now what do you think twice uh... they're a good firearm The big advantage, decades worth of US military and then also second line foreign military production parts. You find every part you want for the carbine plus there are aftermarket items in every category almost. Not quite as prolific as say the AR-15 for extra goodies. But in its day of the equivalent, okay, from the post-World War II period on, carbines became progressively available in larger and larger numbers. Guys, like I said, brought back God knows how many of them. They boxed them up, put them in their kit, shipped them out, hit them under the bunk, whatever they did on the way back on the ship or while they were coming back by plane. However it is, they got carbines back, and a lot of them. Magazine, same way. They ship mags home in the box. and those ended up over here plus mags were so cheap it was ridiculous when they were finally being sold as surplus. There are M2 and M3 carbines, those are both select fire full auto, they're not critical to know much about but I would study them if we can get a good, find some good videos over on YouTube and there are several, more than a few. On the M2, M3, I think forgotten weapons would probably be a good choice for some of the best basic reviews of the gun. uh... the m2 and m3 heavier bolt chubbier stock uh... some parts were beefed up depending on who built it but for the most part again it was a select fire weapon uh... advantages lightweight magazine capacity was reasonable on course remember the time we get to korea the m1 carbine has the m2 or m3 knock offs and they have of course thirty round magazines Those were a plus or minus if they work they work well if they're a good one if they don't work they are Obnoxious and they can be military or aftermarket and both you know go both ways So it's purely a matter of who was building it that day and how long it got abused by somebody else before you got it in your hands sometimes They're brand new out of the box sometimes they were well bounced around a lot Knockdown Power comparable to 9mm. Good little light carbine in this respect. Ladies love the carbine, fits their bodies well. They have those nice bumpy things up top. And the carbine does kind of rest above and away from typically. The other neat thing is there are, as I said, many other attachments, but the bayonets readily available, but not all carbines have a bayonet lock. And that was a big to do back in the day. Old government wanted you back in 67 when they first started that BS with the crap with the Gun Control Act of 68. Oh, you need to cut your bayonet log off your carbine or it would be a military weapon instead of a game gun. Okay, it's like really okay, well, it's a carbine. Yeah. So why does the bayonet make any difference? What they didn't want to tell you, that was all part of the ring knocking, spit swabbing, globalist crap. And it has to do with it being a martial arm. One of the things taking a bandit identifies the gun as a martial arm during the again with regard to rules of war and the nomenclature of Again, what makes for a martial arm? So not that we would care anyway I'll use a scope savage rifle without a bandit all day or I'll just duck all duct tape a Damascus butcher knife to the end of it not a workout just fine stabby stabby pokey pokey, but The carbine itself one nice thing lightweight felt recall is minimal nature the cartridge and also the gas system uh... pollinator stocks are available larger magazines are available there was even a couple of companies that made drums here back when the drum thing was coming out in the nineties into the ops but i haven't seen any in a while uh... i believe mitchell which of course mitchell with a plus or minus again just like the original mags sometimes ever good sometimes it were not but Mitchell made a 30 caliber carbine drum that was a 50-router and it worked, actually worked fairly well, but the problem is it was light duty. Like the Mitchell snail drum magazines, the mag drum itself was okay, but the jumper where the mag goes into the magwell on the AR-15, the little shoulders that held everything together with four screws or six, depending on what year it was made, uh... had come to be made of a chippy polymer and it would snap off and then the thing would be useless uh... with the mitchell car being that it was more like the ones that you see with the clock and so a little different we'll wait till you know center of mass was good straight up and down in line with the uh... fixture and uh... they also had uh... used a small piece of sheet metal to reinforce the bullet all around the outside where the two pieces came together uh... it with a magazine component attached to the rifle you had a a much more rigid piece of material there because of that all see what else is exciting about it i i know there's a lot of holding stocks i've had every model you can imagine i still do there's tucked away in cash is uh... all over the state of michigan here uh... one model of the original and one a one-payer per type which you're all familiar with you can get in uh... with the band of brothers you'll see it in every different movies big red one anything where you got some footage of the norman the invasion you'll feel holding stock car being somewhere in there that particular model was premium back in the day and so what not necessarily the first thing everybody was buying them there was like a wave of reenactment uh... before the latest one and a bunch of copies were made that actually were reasonably price of the paying at two three hundred dollars for original you pay you know ninety five hundred dollars for a copy well you go to copy maybe originalist be it's worth money anyway uh... but then there were a couple other models one with all walnut double uh... pistol grip wall for a double for grip with a standard walnut body stock was kind of what you may have one couple of it had the grease gun type pull out wire stock and the wood was beautiful. The quality of the work was phenomenal. The carbines that came out on were typically plain fields, but there were a few other weapons work out companies that bought, rebuilt, and rebuilt them on carbines and put that stock on the gun. I would say I have probably about eight or ten of those. have lost count the uh... you if they came that way i left them that way but uh... the right the stock themselves are very pretty very very good quality would i don't know what was made out of country maybe in the europe eastern europe maybe but uh... very very pretty very very very uh... much in line with the military grade walnut of well world war two so again uh... those are out there there are some side folders they don't impress me there is there was a copy of the rueger uh... side folder like on the gb or the frontiers model and the whatever the others the ranger uh... that particular stock is worth some money right now too because there weren't that many of them made it was made by rigorous made by as an independent but it was a copy it was a boy and copy of the rueger stock A lot of people liked it because it kept the gun even more out of the way than it already is. And although it added a little bit of weight because of the folding stock, the metal folding stock system overall, I think it still kept the weight down. Well, maybe a quarter of a pound lighter than it originally was. Not critical. but uh... the police back to me now are not the most critical part of the weapon but uh... for a lot of people who want to smash dash guns or vehicle guns they have that the idea that we're talking about your work perfectly just like with your board groups however most of the guns i have have either the standard woodstock or they have one of the choke stocks uh... with the pistol grip that's really putting out one of his mate and yes there are some choke folding stocks in carvings just like there for the a k d s cast all the rest The big advantage of the carbine again, like we said, is lightweight, but the magazine size is another thing. Stowage. How many rounds can you carry? Even by pistol standards, the carbine mag is smaller, flatter, squarer, well rectangular, but it has really nice flat square lines to it. This affords being able to stuff those 15 round mags in any pocket you want and not being easily seen. uh... like area carby and i'm i would typically carry a fifteen-round mag in every pocket front pocket back pocket both of the flip pocket for head popcorn pockets but what each one of those put uh... one each one of the blouses that's four more and then you're wearing a field jacket book one in each pocket there by the time you're done you know a lot of our part spread over your body wearing the talk about what you got a maybe a pistol belt like uh... uh... using a thompson uh... stick magazine five mag stick carrier uh... the m one car being thirty round mags will can be split in and you the campus can be uh... stretched a little bit in the process and because the overall dimensions are pretty close to outer circumference what's interesting is that those thirty round carby mags that really nice in those five uh... stick mag uh... tan world war two to uh... well actually and and and the world war two summer day nineteen forty five forty six most of her from the fifties through the early sixties uh... and again they were made for the thompson but uh... the uh... work really well with a thirty cali recovery night carry those on the left side of the reg and place of a another bag pouch and just your little five round stick points and then on top of that carry a whole bunch of fifteen routers but uh... the the uh... ninety about that is that for the amount of mags carried and for you know the dispersion of weight easy to carry no bird not any part of the body and very difficult to see if you don't have an additional possible put something on your belt underneath your coat or jacket uh... it's hard to tell the other the fact you got the car being in hand and there's all kinds of dirty tricks that you can use to make that disappear out of sight out of mind and without concealing it uh... in fact if you look when i do uh... the when i did the video equipping for the dual order part one If you watch that in the very beginning, you'll notice I'm using a carbine. Well, if you'll notice, the carbine is totally invisible up until the point where I decide to bring it into view, and that's intentional. That's an old MP, PW, and sentry trick for appearing disarmed. Basically, what you do is you take the carbine, you hold it by the... There's two techniques for this. One is you can cup the magazine from the front, bring the weapon around behind and look as if you're at rest are you know at ease with your hands up here you can prep and your arms up rest of behind the back your body but the carvings of laying the length of your body which is what i did there One of the other tricks, you've got to watch it though because you better make sure the safety's on, you better make sure there's nothing loaded, is to take your hand, wrap the front of your fingers around the front of the magazine, and then take your thumb and put it in the magazine well. Now it gives you good control without a little less plopage, so to speak, because you've got two forward and back contact points. But again, you have to be careful because that trigger is right there where your thumb is now. But that was one of the two tricks that were used for creating the appearance of an unarmed sentry. Well, I don't see a pistol. The guy standing there looking really impressive, but what good is he? Well, that's because the rifle's out of sight, out of mind. And of course, as you approach, the rifle is brought forward into ready position. Sergeant of the Guard, post number four. Or Holt, who is there? Sergeant of the Guard, post number four. Number three, number six, number 10, number 28, whatever. uh... the car being a very comfortable and uh... it is today there are flash hiders and their muscle compensators and in fact for a little while there they were really cheap over a gun parts court people up here recently uh... they're still not outrageously expensive for the muscle compensator which is nothing more than a a k at the clamp on system that wraps around the uh... front site goes over the muscle and uh... what it does is it direct gas all possible it helps to keep the muscle clime from rising a little bit works like a retro rocket the other is of course the cold flash ever which is very famous make it look like a lot of sewer pipe on the other initially when you realize when the day karlo light down there is a small barrel all the meeting is that again does the same thing keeps most of flash forward or do you know where is the compensator of course kind of direct flash up to put it for your eyes The cone flash hider works in the same way as star shell flash hider works except all the blasts push forward and pretty much none of it will bleed sideways by the time the gas starts to roll up. It's already burning out so it's not going to disrupt your night vision. The cone flash hiders were extensively used with any of the optics infrared systems and then later on the first generation starlight. You can see this in many examples on the different books and videos movies whatever especially like the vietnam era stuff from the early days and you'll see every variation can imagine how the car being was employed there today uh... ideas of the standard rifle configuration was again he got some of the folding stock don't change it we've got the latest but the thing is remember sometimes they get a little softer we will wobble if they do that and their original uh... you can pop that stock off and you can buy a nice car being either used would or even a polymer one for a very reasonable price. I've seen them as low as carbine stocks, low as $15 a piece for a beater right now because there's a glut of the parts coming in because they've been cutting guns up overseas. Oh, that's that UN gun grab thing. The other consideration with the Zytel nylon, slash the choke stocks, is that they're still out there, both of the pistol grip. the standard C type stock which is what you see on the carbine when it was originally issued a regular straight stock you know with a but with a slightly you know C or pistol grip type dip to the regular stock so it gives you a bit of a wraparound feature there. The other option needless to say are the other different types of improvised stocks that have different styles based on the intricacies of the an interest of the day over the last what 30-40 years with the plastic stocks. Well, the big thing is, myself, somebody said here, myself, what would you use? Okay, well, I actually normally use a standard carbine stock. That's what I have a lot of. And in addition to that, you've tried to round up one of the 1943, 1944 carbine mag pouches. Use, don't try to find pristine, new and collectible. and what you do is take off the oiler slide the uh... take the the the action out of the stock slide the sleeve over top of the stock and this is where you end up designed up with a double mag pouch on the side of the rifle Now for years, you know, if you've been listening to this program, I've explained that makes for a really nice feature with a carbine, because let's say you go into the shower, and before you get there, you hang your clothes up, you put your towel there, you set your carbine where it belongs, and you got a 30-round magazine, the carbine, 215-round mags on the stock. all the sudden you get the shower and keeping boom boom boom we got time to grab the towel grab the rifle and your little newbies are hanging in the wind and you're running like hell little but cheaper going back and forth and back and forth but you get mail on a dodge well you have sixty rounds but i thought i'd play war sixty rounds of awful healthy package to be able to keep yourself from being taken and also to keep people busy and draw attention if you have friends nearby So it's not a bad package with even if you just put 15 rounds in the magazine well, that's 45 rounds That's pretty decent now with the 30 rounder that works. You've got 60 rounds Now you want to go one step crazier you get one of those magazine flip, you know Brackets and you put another 30 rounder opposite direction of the one that's in the magazine Well, you've got how many more rounds? Oh, that's right man. You're you're carrying 90 rounds of ammunition now not bad So either way, again, there's no, I personally wouldn't do the double mag thing, but some people like to do it. They've got to, again, I'm not going to try and undermine you at all. If you've got that and you make it work and you're happy, it works. You use it. Okay. Beyond that with the combat rig for the carbine, for you ladies out there, again, it is lightweight, not care as much. It's very easy to handle the mags. Magazines are very easy to load as far as loading them into the magazine well. it's not as quite as smooth as an air fifteen but pretty darn close it's kind of a bucket type magazine well so if you get the magazine lined up properly and slap the bottom of the place work the action point and pew pew pew pew pew well anyway uh... the car being uh... comes in ball ammo uh... ball ammo and uh... there's a tracer and ball ammo although they did make an AP never got out there any good number or stuck around to everybody shot it and it's a bit again it's a light rifle rounded fits in between the nine millimeter and and battle rifle cartridges uh... it really is in the high end of the club the pistol rounds is a lot of nice thing about it is it is readily available ammunition wise there's tons of it people about i don't know how many by i've lost count i really could even get to me how many rounds occur be nominee pallets how many boxes how many creates i mean we've shot a lot of it too but Remember, we just kept stacking it up. And it is a weapon that back in the day was very affordable to hand out, which is why again, it's $75 or $65 or even $100. You got a brace of nice car beans, lots of firepower, and a lot of support from somebody else if you put them into the fray. Also, like the AR-15, because of the minimal recoil, very forgiving. A couple of our friends, Kerry, like just to give you an example, either Kerry like one of them has carried, he's gone now, a nay-got revolver, it was a battlefield pickup, he was in Korea, and an M1 carbine with every many mags that he could carry, that's Mustache Bob. In addition to that, he had phenomenal marksmanship skills, but the carbine was perfect, he was getting older, he wasn't as large a man as others. and the car being fit in perfectly and he was deadly with it i would want to get shot away a shot by anything but he would hit you okay he would it's just like i said if you know the weapon you've mastered the trade you know we're gonna put that bullet uh... if you're older the car being would be a good choice unfortunately they're not as affordable as they were and uh... as you've seen they're pressing up to a thousand dollars apiece uh... in fact let's go over to uh... tiger imports real quick i believe they have some right now they may be sold out the meeting of the going as quick as they've been coming in and they were going for a work with ludicrous prices as a matter of fact okay here we go up there right on the front page no i don't need any more information and in fact the first item we're going to be are the m one car beans with the with the prices on them right now well maybe we won't because doesn't want to cooperate carby I'd like to see the carbine. Show me the carbine. Here we go. Guns of an Emperor. There's actually a piece there from the Shotgun News. There are a couple of videos on the front page. I just scroll down a little bit. And they definitely are listing the carbines, but they'll show you what they look like, where they came from. You see the stack over your shoulder? Those are all M1 carbines sitting there from Ethiopia. Okay? And from Hiddie Salafi, the Lion of Ethiopia's collection, the Lion of the Emperor and the Lion. Anyway, the neat thing about this is... Hold on here, let's see if I can snag what their prices are. I'm still trying to find the price for the carbine. I see the price of the ARs. Okay, we're into collectibles, and I don't see any carbines showing up. This is not... okay what we have just a little bunch many many many other of bolt-action rifles at royal tiger imports by the way boy here we go okay all all there were twelve hundred dollars apiece only yeah i don't not know that however if you know they were they were pretty pretty very few people know that don't think Yeah, the Mausers and the other stuff are all, well most of them are high. Guys, my problem is when I used to buy these, I'd buy them 12-14 at a time for anywhere from 80 to 120 dollars. I mean, talking to almost every rifle on that, in this image you see here, I bought for that price range. In fact, there's an 88-man launcher. There's a bunch of the older pre, well like the French 1886 Lebel rifles. Those things we used to buy like 14 to 16 of mixed. They'll be everything to be at one of this two of that three of these. One batch I got a jungle carbine and even then back in the day this was a pristine factory new. Wasn't a battlefield pickup, but it was a complete and it was it was a factory built number five and I got it with 13 other guns for $110. the gun itself made all the rest of the the other items profit in effectors massive profit of just the gun itself so that's what i look at these are now talking eight hundred i mean of course that is the investment that's what i recommended everybody do and this is playing out like i told you for years guys i mean when you bought those sks for sixty nine dollars what's the best part you can find a chinese sks for right now think about it ain't sixty nine dollars anymore But the year of the mousers, there's every model you can think of here. There's some of the spoon mousers, the car 88, those were beautiful. Back in the day, those were a $12 gun when I was growing up. They're $800 now, and they're out of stock. And the same is true with, there's several variations. You want to spend more money? Oh, they'll sell your carbine for $1,800. But the baseline of about $1,200, they have five of those left. not know why that's you combine m one eight for the price of the car being noticed investment what they want they are making more world war two car beings that was seventy plus years ago in the tail lights but uh... it's not where i would go right now but if you do have one that inheritance you have already on the shelf or you people already built picked up up your your somebody making a deal of being very you know good to you yeah it would be a good rifle uh... in fact there is still ammunition out there a couple of different companies have the korean stripper clip uh... in the battle ears and the fifth caliber cams and i would buy the animal if you're really serious but a car meaning you go up there by the amor you know i buy the amor now if you're actually put your heart of a car being is gonna happen i'd be right now tonight i'd buy the amor if i can get it if you can find it and it's reasonably priced and it is actually not outrageously priced for the korean military ball which is newer production than the average bear but somebody's asking about it at about bad at we talked about this the other day you know ways to make rifles work with a car being typically does have a band that if it's one of the service rifles has come out all the universals did not have uh... a bandit log but you could put a bandit log fixture on me at the knock off the front site slide the uh... original uh... barrel band off and then slide on a u.s. and one car being uh... bennett uh... fixtures slash front band and you had yourself a bad at about that about uh... the same is true for a lot of the others have been cut people have a lot of carvings out there with a better way of a cut they bought it we replaced it now in the past i don't know that ever problem car being in this respect because of price because i could get aftermarket uh... copies of the uh... and one car being better from but k i've noticed that those are available now they have been sixteen knock off and they do have spring field knockoffs uh... for the nineteen oh three spring field or corrand but they do not have car being better right now and the problem is that some of those are so good they're now floating around after it's been thirty years where people are trying to pawn them off as original bad at all and they were actually pretty well-made copies uh... top not all i was happy with the copy and i don't care if you know the copy or not because it's not what was bought for bought to take people so if you run into a field grade car being better you do not need pristine you do not want to pay two three four five hundred dollars you're looking for a field grade uh... maybe came in with the bluebird wave years ago of car beings and grams where they re-park right everything by just washington parker rising but the band that doesn't make any difference And the big thing is you will be able to see that there's wear, they've been sharpened. The Koreans believe in sharp bayonets, trust me on that one, they love blades. They love blades. And with a bayonet on board, yes, it gives you a sharp pokey thing so that you're that much more effective in just in case you run into something close while you're busy. By the way, the carbine is a, an intermediate short-range, short-wage weapon. It's not designed for, you know, it's not a sniper gun, not a sniper rifle in any way, shape or form. But I would, again, I would recommend it because a lot of magazines, a lot of ammo, and very little in the way of burden. Go ahead, call our ship in there. Hey, this is Carl in Virginia. I'm just wondering, how come no one's really doing anything as far as new guns being chambered in .30 carbine? It seems like it's somewhere between .300 Blackout and .357-6. well you would be up here what what i get that uh... if i were building a liberty weapon during the war an alternate caliber would be to build basically that idea it would be to take and cut the uh... i think uh... five five six round off right at the base of the show of the uh... shoulder you know where the where the soldiers of same thickness of the base Cut that off and just make it a straight case, ream it out, make sure it's the proper length spec-wise, and load that up with a .30 caliber projectile, and then make a chamber that matches, because the .556 case is slightly larger. But the latest, and it's not new, the latest in any of the really dynamic guns, and this is what a lot of the guys around here have, if they carry a carbine, a lot of the guys that are older, one of the guys listening, he's an anesthesiologist. uh... he carries an m one car being with tons of mags and he carries an a m t semi auto all thirty caliber auto mag where they uh... i think it's got a six may have a seven inch barrel extra six or seven but it's typical for what a lot of these guys bought the well scarred about that they came out by a short window there and they are a sweet because big in the pistol grip nothing you can't handle but they are a sweet gum they will eat anything that they are being Yeah, I've seen one of those before, but what I'd really like to see is a bullpup carbine chambered in 30 carbines. It would work. Yeah, and again, I think the mags would be small. In fact, if they were smart, they'd use, don't even hesitate, use the carbine type magazine, period. Anything you'd have that was pre-production for your rifle would fit in your weapon. And I don't think there's any restrictions or patents or anything that would get in your way with a carbine mag. So that would be the first step. Remember, there's always somebody trying to block you in one form or another, but that's a government patent. Or not even a government patent, it's just government patents. And then they contract people to build it. uh... if you do a bullpup one of the things to consider is rather than the short tap it system would be uh... to do what they did with uh... blowback but uh... it is a little longer case that uh... standard nine millimeter forty caliber obviously so the short stroke tap it that would still be something that could be embraced and again i wouldn't change the part there's there's an advantage to making the same gas tap it that the uh... car being had but offering greater ventilation around it so that it more efficiently evacuates the carbon, nagating more, and nagating as much cleaning, even though you're still going to clean it if you're smart. That would be your best bet as far as designs go, much like a lot of these little bullpup shotguns that you see coming in from Turkey. That basic outline is what they would end up looking like. Only much smaller and lighter. The other thing there too, because it is smaller and lighter, you could build the stock so that it actually had either ammunition or magazine stowage right in the buttstock. I'd set it up so it could carry a few rounds there because it is still a really nice feature. Either as raw animal... That would be cool. Buttstock storage is a great idea, I think. Yeah, you're going to... Again, if you're going to do the bullpup, you're going to be making it girthier to the rear because of where your receiver ends up. And so, you know, if you look at a couple, look at the IMI, oh, come on, what is it? The two bullpups that the Israelis came up with, my God, those suckers are like chubby stubbies, okay, they're chunky. And yet there's a lot of dead space when you take them apart. Both of them internally because of the way the castings are. Man, I would have figured out some way to, you know, when the two clamshells come together. I'd have an access door somewhere to the bigger, you know, and make it so there'd be a bigger channel in there somewhere, or at least uniform, and you could put a cleaning kit, spare parts, whatever you want on board the gun, and there is room. Was it the T-var? Is that the T-var? That's the one. Yeah, that's great work. And the other one is bulkier and chunkier still. It actually looks like a... like it would be a a slug gun for the bosun goes from a sci-fi series of god and it's what it's more it's more than the table the table or table or there we go god mark come up anyway um... the other one i think there's even more space internally but you know where they've disassembled it and there's all kinds of air pockets all around the uh... casting for the body of the gun so that would be something i would take advantage of They could even put ammunition stowage on board where you at least have spare rounds or at least, you know, maybe a suicide round. Well, it looks like the zombies are going to overrun me. Oh, wait a minute. I've got one more little round in the compartment there. Oh, thank goodness. There we go. And the zombies don't get to eat you. Well, they do, but you're not live, so you don't feel it. The other thing about the carbine as a bullpup, it really would be easily, it'd be easier to do that gun than most. because of the way most of the other gas systems are for the rifles that have been made into bullpups. Just something to think about there. Go ahead. Yeah, Mark. I think it's classic firearms. No, I may be wrong. They're showing a hundred-round drum for the AK. I think they're asking $1.20 for it. About $1.19, $90, whatever. I remember you talking about a hundred-round drum sometime back. What do you think? well okay who's made the is the uh... you could square one the one that the square by negative it's uh... it's metal i think they say it's uh... korean but i'm not sure it's not remember court well it is if it's basically just like a bigger version of the seventy five it's the hundred round probably knock knock off copy of the hundred round chinese ones when they when they first are bringing the eight days and they brought both the seventy five of the hundred routers i think i have or maybe four or five of the hundred-round drums and people could have bought them back then they were like nineteen ninety five a piece if you bought three of them they were seventeen dollars apiece in fact i'd be having old shotgun news take a look at the prices they're in there if you got near the old eighties and ninety shotgun news uh... the hundred routers were the first thing that kind of got dropped uh... and then why told everybody hey guys that's the one that's going to be hard to get just like the long-barreled a case that were some i order the rp case Remember the RPK is a minority gun. So that would be the one that would run out first and sure as hell because there were fewer of them but nobody could wrap their brain around that. Well now that's the one that everybody really pays through the nose for. So and by the way they also did bring in a member of the couple of bullpup Chinese AKs too and they were dirt cheap. Again the big advantage of all of these was you know slave labor made a big difference when you have labor but they uh... they definitely had some ideas that we we had not have examples of so we could virtually copy them uh... the bullpup a k would be that hard to do a pop metal the uh... that's what the bucket type uh... trot type uh... a k forty seven magazine well was actually a pretty good solution because the russians would sell the mags but they wouldn't tell them the weapons so the chinese during that in between window could never get enough a case once they start building them and they made a conversion SQL actually, a modified SKS with a metal magazine well in the stock so that in a buttstock, or forgive me, in a full stock, that went underneath the whole receiver and that was your tray for loading up the 30 round AK mags into a standard SKS and it worked really well. We've got examples of it. uh... there is one of the harder more collectible of the chinese ones are now it's the old issue that when you can sell it and get a lot of other rifles because a lot of these things are commanding a much bigger price than most people realize you bought the gun for you know hundred dollars and right now it's uh... two thousand or three thousand dollar weapon and it's deep for you it's like an i understand they will not three thousand dollar weapon will for somebody it is so take advantage of that and i think the biggest thing about trading i will remind you we talked about this little or block guys trade you know if you have to go to three guns you're looking for and you know that the guy will probably find a make a deal he knows more people that you do get what you can get a good deal you get a good deal you get the three guns you wanted he gets the uk and knockoff that he wanted to finish his collection and everybody happy that's how you need to be thinking Remember, you can make deals. They're good. It's a way to keep everybody happy. You never know, we might say, oh, by the way, I got something else. That's another thing you would want to, you know, hopefully cultivate. Another thing here, too, and I don't see it, I've been looking for, what I've been trying to do here is, I can't find any really great prices on anything in a semi-auto rifle of making me go wow right now. uh... all of the eight days that were the uh... three hundred dollar eight days are now the eight hundred dollar eight days over atlantic firearms all the including all of the uh... the cia guns uh... you know what they buy century arms or and uh... what's interesting about that with the planet is that lantic is that they do have a bunch of other items i would remind you as long as i'm talking about it check to keep an eye on their seven six two by thirty nine And one of the reasons I bring it up is remember they have a connection on the 762x39 N stripper clips. So if you are looking for an AK ammo, but you have SKS's in the inventory, in fact I'd prioritize that ammo for the SKS's, they do have, or they have been getting on occasion more of that ammunition in stock. In fact let's see if they got it. They have it listed at the top of the page. That doesn't mean anything. It could be out already long gone. back in the head back no distill now if you're wondering what i'm talking about go to it like a firearms dot com atlantic firearms dot com atlantic firearms dot com go to the ammunition and see what they do have available and uh... will be able to have left and stuff red army standard nine millimeter ammunition one thousand rounds per case uh... six hundred and forty nine dollars and they have black pieces tactical twelve-gauge buckshot 250 rounds for almost $300. And then they do have some 9mm macarons, 1000 rounds of Barnal, which means it's basically the Russian or Serbian, and that is $580. So 79. but that's it they have three different types of animal well some places don't have that they're all completely but atlantic does have a case just give you an idea and they also carried not the carbine surplus rifles are off everybody i mean mentioned that other also are carbine uh... rifles available you know they're brand new manufacturing and uh... there's two or three companies building a right now they're kind of like uh... custom wineries basically the way to look at it and these particular uh... rifles are brand new out of the box i mean they're just literally if you wanted a brand new m1 carbine and you're willing to spend the money yep they got them problem is you won't buy another go like i don't know what your wallets are like that just say the average person's that's going to be about as far as you're going to go and okay now i got to wait and then buy some you know buy some ammo when i could afford it uh... it looks hard now i see even as i mentioned that now again though the uh... if you look at it laddick there's a couple things are other interesting there is a uh... they have what is the uh... p sixty one scorpion pistol up out of stock already again but you know i've mentioned this several times and this is interesting because this is a later production variant with all the modifications It has a pistol brace on it, not critical, it's going to be a pistol anyway, the pistol brace just makes it more obnoxious for gun control. But it's a handgun, so it will still be in the gun control category anyway. But the VZ61, this is a 9x18 Mackerel, okay, this is a checkpoint with an arm brace, $770, but it is a 9mm spud gun, it's a tiny little beast. originally this was a thirty two a c p and thirty two a c p with check a p hot loads this is a real bite and pistol i've fired it before when it was in its original configuration i know guys who all of them their class three uh... years ago or they started collecting the course now there was stupid price for the actual guns this is a nine millimeter some idle copy it's a good little weapon for its size you know i don't talk too much about uh... of the ball these you know handgun rifle pitiful combinations in this case this is originally designed to be a pocket flash large hanger uh... submachine that was designed to be uh... carried by armor crewman but it was very popular if you watch any of the old terrorist movies uh... in thirty two a c p rico's action thirty two yeah three-round bird full auto uh... the little thirty two a c p model of concealable it had a little wire support stock and the thing is tiny you really don't appreciate to get somebody's hands around it you really don't know small was but for what it was it offered a lot of fire power and that's why it was very popular as of you know one of the team guns and any kind of special operations in eastern europe or with people who were on the fringes you know working either side uh... in europe during the cold war annual will find it everywhere there were some of them in uh... ireland there were a bunch of in the hands of the bader minehoff crew uh... they were of course in every tank crew of that with the uh... check military the chicago's o'clock in army uh... tankers actually carried this is their personal arm instead of uh... mackerel pistol or uh... or in lieu of the matter combination goes to putting what year it was in other and they didn't care the mackerel forgive me they carried the cv family of pistols In this case, the VZ-61 was 32 ACP SMG shoulder carried and under a shoulder type bucket carrier with a cross strap. You can actually buy all the accoutrements for these guns for the original. And it was a very compact and very useful piece of equipment. And for tread heads, they wanted fire power to get away. They're not trying to get into a battle. They're trying to get the hell away from what they just lost, a tank. so it was a nice size package too. There were really many disadvantages. The gun is no more complicated or less complicated than anything else made during the day. Muzzle climbers and all that extreme and full auto, I fired these down at the Special Warfare Arsenal range down at Forticuca. In fact, if you're willing to take some time on the weekends or whenever you had time off, You can go over and fiddle with any of the 20,000 plus weapons they had, and I messed around with the Scorpion and several other weapons, and the Scorpion was very manageable in full auto. Again, .32 ACP, and I will say this, the Chec ammo, and I've warned you about this before, the Chec .32 is hot. Little CZ-70 pistol originally was designed for the hot round, it could handle the submachine gun round, or it could use the standard .32 ACP round, either way. and the weapons work so it's an interesting little footnote but it is available well not available for the moment they just sold out again and magazines around thirty four dollars apiece for the uh... uh... again the mags for the new nine millimeter mackerel version okay next uh... and i'm looking to see if they had the car beans when i found that real quick so it's like nope they don't and a probably won't have any in stock uh... there are several companies are listing those new manufactured car beans and classic firearms may actually have a listing they may not have them in stock but if you go over to classic firearms you will find them there so anyway if you got the car being only i'd say by more ammo by more ammo we want to keep the car be running it easily could be operational for the next half a century without any problem there's seventy years worth of parts and every year since world war two actually from world war two Until present, there are still brand new carbine parts being made. Think about that. In every year, since the gun came out, that can't be said for every weapon out there, guys, but it can be said for the carbine. It's like the AR-15. I told you, some days we call it a piece of junk, but it's a neat piece of junk. It's a Lego block, son. Build lots of them. God bless our Republic. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire's on the run. And we are always on the march every day.