politicians get any blunt objects together alright get corners fashion in the head that seems to work out keep together stay sharp and follow me it's part of our Constitution you know the right to bear arms because that's the last form of defense against tyranny not to hunt protect yourself from the police. Anybody that wants to disarm me can drop dead. Anybody that wants to make me unarmed and helpless. People that want to literally create the proven places where more innocents are killed called gun-free zones. We're going to beat you. We're going to vote you out of office or suck on my machine gun. I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat. And speaking low to me, he said, we fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hope you always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost. You're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate. and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You trade it in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be buried. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise. Take a stand. defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God-given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright as Iowa key vanished in the midst for whence he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each God-given right, we only watch and tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave, deal the land of the poor? Ladies and gentlemen, this is the Evening Intelligence Report. I'm Mark Korky. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines and occupied territories southwest, east, northeast, and south. Ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com. Liberty Tree Radio satellite. Want to say hi to our friends, the seafarers way out there in the far end of the Pacific. I understand we got a lot of people listening on the Korean shuttle run and also from I guess Seattle and the northwestern part of the United States, the crossover to Korea, Japan, and they're listing, even as we speak, I assume it's either a service, but it's, I'm told it's satellite. That's the message I got earlier this week. And so I want to say hi to our friends. They're out there on the waves, kind of the northern end of the Pacific, I assume, but pretty cool. And hopefully you guys are having good weather and enjoying your time there. We're also on AM&FM micro stations, CB base stations, and UltraNet Hallmark in Golden Spike Technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. Good afternoon to all of our friends out there, lower 49 including the great state of Jefferson along with CONUS, the Outline Two States of Territories, and the clock. It is... 806 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. It is Friday, Cinco di Amodea and Quartermaster Friday. It is the 5th of March. It is the 12th, oh, forgive me, 13th year of open and in-your-face Fabian the Socialist and obvious Soviet-slash-communist occupation of America with a K. 2021 Old Earth Calendar, 2021 Battle for the Republic, Dense of the Souls, and A bunch of other things going on right now are really interesting. Here in Michigan, actually, it has to do with Michigan, but it turns out that the food contamination slash the attempted murder, if that was a riot on the 6, if they want to call that insurrection, then obviously, congressional attempted murder of a National Guard is what we should be talking about, right? Well, whatever. Somebody's cousin's brother-in-law, Izzy, Apparently, used whatever sub-rate contractor from some back alley in some outlying burb around D.C. And it didn't just hit the Michigan National Guard, and I guess the Texans were there too. Turns out that whatever they did with this operation, they fragged a whole bunch of people. Now, it's rather interesting because you would think that somebody would have caught this at least within a reasonable period of time, but apparently not. And the idea is that they were supposed to have used a mermite cans or whatever for transporting the food, which is normal, or the equivalent because mermite are kind of old. They're still out there, but there's There are new replacements for the older three bucket, three bin meal thermoses. However, it is that's not really where the problem was. is with the food processing itself. I'll guarantee it. So it's the subcontractor to the subcontractor from the Israeli subcontractor to the other Israeli owned subcontractor milking the tit, milking the tit, milking the tit. That's what happened there. But apparently some surgeries were required. Other individuals had a, forgive me, a gut-wrenching experience. So yeah. This is another thing that we've talked about with regard to your own people and quality control and paying attention to your operations and equipment. We have a lot of food services equipment on standby. When I was working at the University of Michigan, we had a property disposal there plus, of course, I was buying from government DOD property disposal over the years. When you do big lots of stuff, you get certain things just by chance. And one of the things, you know, serving spoons, tray line, stainless steel trays, ladles, buckets, pots, pans, you name it, lids, and I've got massive amounts of this stuff stored away. It's already itemized and we could put several field kitchens together without any problem that would you be using A rations, which are canned goods, fresh food, whatever you got. The big thing here again is that they're also using other food machinery and that's where the damage came from. So, oh and by the way, you know somebody was asking me before about that with the wear and tear on those pots, you know how does that happen? Well they scald off, not scald in the heat. But basically it's a scaling that takes place when the machine beater bars are a couple of different types. There's a paddle, it's a serrated, not a serrated paddle, forgive me. It's a skeletal paddle. You've seen them, you've probably seen them in movies even if you haven't been in a kitchen. Well what happens if they don't set the pot and sometimes as the unit turns it will gall and score the outside, the outside edge. Now either A, you're going to get fingernail scrapings off of the paddle, you're going to get scrapings literally off the side of the steam kettle. And the thing about these steam kettles is they do wear through. You would think, well, that's probably a pretty thick piece of metal there. Yeah, it is. But when you've got a lot of torque and horsepower, by the way, don't stick your arm in there when that paddle's running around in circles. It'll take your arm right out of your socket and pull it right off your corpse, okay? But the interesting thing is that what happens is they actually wear through. Very few people want to work on kitchen equipment because there are a lot of things that need to be done that are part of the food standards you have to maintain. I know a few people who actually do constantly work on food service material for machines for that reason and make big money because nobody else does it. Okay, now I'm bringing that up as a sidebar because a lot of you are going, what can I do for work? If you're willing to actually do welding, And if you understand how to work, refurbish your resurfacing and fabrication, equipment like that, guys, you can make very good money on because nobody wants to work on it. And again, it is stainless. So there's all the issues with stainless you have to watch. But in fact, repairing those steam pots is a regular mission for the individual that I know. And because of that, he makes regular, very good money on the repair of the equipment. The big thing here again though is with quality control, this is why you have to have a straw boss and why you need to keep track of your people, make sure the people that are running your equipment know what they're doing. I don't care what it is, it can be range operations, it can be quarter master, it can be whatever. In this case, again, kitchen support slash mess support. But you've got to pay attention to the environment. The big thing here is you may not be able to fix what you destroy. And there isn't any easy way to do that. Like I said before, they had this problem with MRE applesauce. It wasn't the only thing in the long run. They found out their other food process is done by the same company that had the same problem. And people had been injured. Troops had been injured. Air Force, Army, Marine Corps, whoever was eating those MREs. and it caused a lot of problems for quite a number of years. It also created a lack of confidence, kind of like when you have a weapon that blows up on you and it does it on a regular basis. People were kind of leery of dessert packs, which is kind of rare because everybody usually at least eats the dessert. But what's interesting is the fruit packs and the MREs, they were kind of shying away from for the longest time. And it faded away, but it took time. But in the meanwhile, well, This is an example of we've seen this before. Another thing about, again, rations, I mentioned A rations, that's canned goods in volume especially would be a better choice because obviously you're putting a, you got a bunch of hoofs, you know, walking up and sticking them under the table there while they're at the feeding cross. 60, 70, 100 people, it would take a lot of little cans of soup. So the number 10 can or volumes of whatever our powder concentrate is where you usually focus to get your bulk. And you do need to practice at this because it takes time to get people fed. And in fact, it's really kind of funny, the formula for anything when you have groups is the time, how long does it take from the time the first person goes through the startup point? to the last person. What is the cycle time to get each person, for instance, every person fed? Or to travel through a distance, you know, if you're in a fighting situation. If you can only travel so many people abreast and if you're using a road, you have a battalion you want to move, you might claim that you can move so many miles in an hour, but the problem is the front of the group is there while the rest of the fighting force is strung out over 10, 15, 20 miles. Think about that. You have to be able to bring force to bear and concentrate force. That takes time. Same is true with feeding, same is true with supply, everything else. So you have to make that part of your mental math when you're management. And it's one of the first things you need to learn as quickly as possible because it's one of those issues that's gonna keep biting in the butt if you miscalculate, mismanage. Another thing here is Quartermaster Friday and I did mention the Sportsman's Guide. They do have a couple of rain gear items you might want to take a look at over in the deals section and also some pouch, mag pouches and such. Also in the web gear go to Sportsman's Guide and Surplus Pouches and you'll find that there are a number of pistol magazine pouches that came in and or that they've had that are actually pretty reasonably priced in groups of 10 or 20. So, if you're looking again because you're equipping large numbers of personnel, then you want to make sure that you provide the resources accordingly to get the job done. And that means having the Web gear to go along with the weapons system that you think you're going to be issuing if you're looking at that formulation with your troops. With regard to ammunition, another thing, and I have mentioned this several times, but the big conversation that people get into next is, well, I'm trying to make money because of the economy this and the economy that. I have not seen anybody step up to the plate on ammunition reloading like we did in the 70s or in the late 80s. And I don't know why. Maybe just the mindset isn't there. Guys, when ammunition was short in the 70s, we started cranking it out ourselves. And because they just couldn't keep up with interest, just like you're seeing now, reloads were the obvious logical solution. I would hope, and I would assume, that most ranges are using a reload contractor of one type or another because that still makes sense. They've got the brass there. Unless somebody's carrying their stuff away if they're if they're usually issuing out the ammo, you know you pay for it But it's kind of like a rental thing Most the people are shooting don't really want their brass if they do they tell them but you know you got to figure first a percentage is retainable and The idea there is that you can knock down the price to about one fifth of what it would normally cost for ammunition Now as Don used to joke and everybody used to agree, if you make it cheaper to shoot, you don't shoot the same amount, you shoot more for the same amount of money you were spending before. So you get five times as much shooting and as typically what happens, you don't cut back and go, oh it's cheaper, I can save that cash. Now in this day and age that may not be the case, but I would point out that if you are looking for a business, a way to make a little bit of money, understanding how to use a reloading press and doing pistol ammunition, look at the prices, and undercutting that would be a very good idea. The big place where you save is casting a lead bullet to work with the reloading process. The way that you make the bullet more sellable is to copper plate the lead. And you can come up with a pretty decent economical load. We've got to call her. Call her. Jump in there, please. Yeah, Mark. This is Doug from Ohio. You know, around here you can't even find a press. Powder is $138 a pound, a bottle. And the primers are a milch. I think just, you know, I think a lot of people would like to get into reloading, but, you know, the supplies aren't there. So I thought I'd mess that up to you. Well right, like I said, the biggest problem is going to be your, well the primer and the powder are really the toughest. The bullet you can make, the brass you're going to get from anything that's been shot, as long as this box are primed. And the big thing is again, going to be rounding up a powder. Now one of the tricks there, and I've brought this up with many people that are reloading right now, In fact, one of the car washes here, I was talking to one of the guys, I actually know three of the guys by the time I was done, but one of the things I pointed out, because they did reload, is they're complaining about powder availability. Well guys, if you dial down, you can get more pews per pound by going down the loading scale that you have in your loading book. You're still going to get comparable performance for training purposes, it's sufficient. In fact, you're going to have less belt recoil. You can bring down your pressures a little bit. But the big thing is using that much less powder, which means you can reload that many more cases. And that's something everybody should be doing. One of the things I know, Americans always love hot cars and Magnum 4 slash Dirty Harry pistols. And so we try to get every handgun to do that. It's like a .44 Magnum, only it's a .25 automatic. We don't need that and for training purposes especially if you are trying to get on the range to shoot and you feel that you have people that need to shoot, well you use the reloads for that not the factory ammo. Primers are a problem no matter what but there are some caches here and there. The one thing to keep track of is Natchez shooting supply. They seem to have a good connection for what's left. And the other thing that I've seen, I won't say how much of it, is some of the Russian primers are showing up again. I don't know if it's because of cost or paperwork, because they used to be coming in quite readily, but they kind of backed off. So there have been a few of those, either it's old inventory showing up because it's back in the warehouse, Or the Russians are being allowed to bring in primers to a degree, a larger number for a little bit. Go ahead, call her, heard another voice. Just getting back to reiterating what you're saying about downloading on your reloading. For one thing, like you say, you get more pews per pound and it's, you know, if you're shooting 38 and everything you load, you know, you're the dynamite band where you start loading where the reloading manual leaves off. That's a lot of, you're saving a lot of wire on your weapon as well. Yep, and the brass. I was telling a coworker, they were looking for some .44 Magnum for their Henry, for Henry Lee Braxton, I told him, I'd say, hey, get you some .44 Special. As far as I know, you can shoot a .44 Special on the .44 Magnum, and they'll work as long as it throws the bullet down range. Yeah, and as a matter of fact, again, the cowboy loads, that's one of those that's still hanging out. There's another company, I didn't recognize the name, but I've noticed there's another company out there doing cowboy competition loads, which are all going to be led, typically round nose or again spire, for what they are. Is it Black Hills Vamo or something like that? Yeah, I think it was. I haven't seen them really out there, Black Hills. What is it? Black? I think it's Black Hills Cowboy or something like that. It's competition. It's for speechors. They make all that .38, .40, and .44, .40 and all that. Yeah. Okay. This guy told me at the gun store, we were, we got, since you're talking about reloading, we were talking about primers. He said that reason primers are so hard to get, he said that, I don't know where he gets his information, he said the bulk of the in this country come from Italy and Turkey. Do you know if that's true? Well, that's possible in more recent years, but I do know a lot of it probably is being made. Italy, it would make sense. If it's gotten that bad, it's the same thing. Bummer probably did it to us because remember when they did the lead man? I'm sure that other chemical process... Yeah, chemical process bans took place at the same time. That gets back to what I've been saying a million times over, save all of your primers, your spent primers, all of you listening, save them for us. At the very least, you can load a FU gas with it and use them like a big shotgun pellet, okay, or horrible, horrific shotgun pellet. But otherwise, the big thing is that we can rebuild them. and we're going to end up having to do so. Now, it wouldn't be hard to make primers. The only restriction I guarantee that really has caused the problem is the fulminate, you know, whatever the primer, prima acti, activating agent is. Because that's where they've been screwing us for years. Oh, the clean water, oh my god, it's horrible. But they keep, what they do is they make it sound like it's just horribly polluting, but what they've done, they've dialed back how much is allowed to the point where it's insane. Every kind of natural element that exists is technically a contaminant based upon the specs that they've arrived at or they've dropped it to over and over again. That's what they did with lead. We don't have any excessive lead threat. That was BS just like you see with the coronavirus where in fact they learned with the lead scam and a bunch of the others, to plug that in and then the next step was to go with like the Coronavirus fake biological attack. Right, it was all propaganda. The water, they kept showing you the water, it was red colored. What's in the water when it's kind of reddish colored, guys? You know that? I want you all to remember that. You can't see lead in the water. It's silver. It's clear. In fact, one of the things to remember about lead, we had lead pipes forever. We still have copper with, you know, lead, lead solder. Well, the reason it was so safe is because it, when it oxidizes, which it will, it self-encapsulates. And the oxidant is no threat because it doesn't scale. You see, that's all stuff they don't want to talk about. It's malleable. It's not like it's achippable. You know, it's not brittle. It is malleable. And because of that, while certainly no matter what, when water is running over something, it wears whatever it's passing over. Okay, that's a fact. But the lead threat was nonexistent. And in fact, what it was- That was your- That was your Mexican boy, Michael Moore, promoting that myth. Well, he was one of several. All the turds jumped on that at once. But the purpose behind that was to try and destroy Flint. In fact, originally, the reason Flint finally had to go back to their own water processing plants, if you, again, remember they were hooked up to Detroit's, which makes no sense at all. Look where Detroit is. Look where Flint is. Why was Flint, Michigan hooked up to the Detroit water system? Guys, look how many counties away Flint, Michigan is from Detroit. Okay? The big thing is that when they turned it back on, none of the characters knew how to actually run the system or the message didn't get through the system because nobody knew their job. Normally when you restart a system like that you shock the pipes and when you shock the pipes this is why your fire department goes out and they run all of your fire hydrants which are on a potable water supply. They're on the water supply with everything else. There are advantages to this. You clean out the fire safety equipment line, but you also clean up all the rest of the sediment that naturally occurs in all water supply lines. Well, in Flint, they didn't do that. In fact, it used to be they'd give you a public notice. Everybody run your tap for, you know, like an hour or run it for half an hour. Everybody do it. They did this when I was in the city and I was always little. I remember that like it was yesterday. It's like, oh yeah, we're going to, you know, the system got shocked. There's stuff in it. Hey guys, everybody come over here, help us out. Or I should say, you know, go over to the kitchen, turn on the water. Sorry about that. Go over to the kitchen, go over to the bathroom, turn everything on and just let it run. And you know, when you're done, thank you. Now they didn't do that. And so Flint, Michigan, they played that sucker like a violin across the board. Line sacks of BS and ambulance chasers combined with individuals who were sewers. And I mean, as in, there's no difference between the sewer and those who are commercial sewers. And that's what happened. And they played that to no end. They got free water up the high net, passed it away. We're going to go on a break. We'll be right back. Blind. The metal group said please go ahead call jump in there, please. This is John from Kentucky Got an idea a 12 gauge shell as or maybe five nine millimeter Okay after you use the powder out of the 12 gauge use some pyro decks reload your 12 gauge over Yeah, actually that would be a solution remember you can use pyro decks or just you know any of the black powders now ain't gonna be pretty there, but Good enough for what it's for and I just got to clean that straight tube shotgun. That's a lot easier But the yeah, the option there would be to go well, you can even go so crude depending on what you've got in the way of pellet You could even if need be use that an emergency I guess but more likely to just hang those pellets and leave where they are with the shotgun But the powder itself. Yes primers, of course are specific to the shotgun. Sorry guys. Somebody probably thought about that Well, we use the primer too shot shell primers are different design. But the powder is another source. I used a unique 26 grain of unique in my shotgun shells reloads and about four 3.8 or fours of unique in a nine millimeter cast. Yeah as a matter of fact well you know I'm thinking about the other option would be perusing the pages right now, there's even if you had to sacrifice shells, there's a number of shells that are like classic that are the odd man out that wouldn't be a bad way to go. The other consideration, like you said, first of all is you want to try and track down the pyrotechs, but there's still a good chunk of that out there. There's a lot of black powder pistols, a lot of black powder rifles, you know, well, mountain rifles and such, or the more sophisticated modern designs. But the pyrotex would be more than effective enough for any of the shotgun shells. You're going to get basically the same performance, enough for what we need for what we're doing. And the powder itself going over the pistols for more bang bang there, that's where the priority is right now to try and get those up and online. And again, 9mm, .38, .357, any of the pistols cases could be used, the powder could be used for any of them. Now, the other thing is dial down, like we were saying before, dial down, you can take a little bit less energy there and then maybe squeak out between however many shells, a couple more reloads on some other brass. So that's a good solution actually. At this point in time... Well, you know, the other thing is shot shells are available and the 9mm pretty much isn't. So that's the first rule. It's like what can you get? And then it's taking a look at, you know, if you do get it, you don't want to destroy it, guys. You want to, you know, again, open it up, dump the shot, dump the powder, and then reallocate the powder accordingly, reintroduce another powder charge, and seal the shell back up, and away you go. So in fact, since you've done that with a shotgun, you might as well modify it so it's built to your design if you want. That's the other option. Go ahead. The 12 gauge with the power index, I would relegate that for evening and night use where you wouldn't show the smoke over. And it would create more clutter like that. Dark smoke, gray smoke even, but black smoke or dark smoke is really good because it does disrupt at night. The Germans remember even we don't see them in our inventory very much, but the Germans made black smoke grenades for that reason, for night use. Think about it, you throw a black smoke grenade up, what do you see? Shadows, exactly what you'd expect. So like you said, the powder charge here, it's going to be dynamic either way. And again half the time remember if you're using a shotgun as close quarter down a hallway like for a rear guard or for close defense It's kind of nice to throw all that extra crud down the down range with them. That's that Several discharges if you dump five rounds out of a pump gun. I don't know I probably couldn't see much down a 10-foot corridor And indoors would be like oh dudes. Did you throw something else? No, I just pulled the trigger. That's all I did Love the smell Yeah, the smell of victory and well them peeing their pants realizing you really weren't quite quite out of ammunition yet The the one thing here too Also a reminder we're scavenging from different places guys rifle ranges and pistol ranges if you're needing lead you go down to the impact area at the end of the day and There's all the lead you need for a whole lot of rework And in fact, even on the shotgun range, especially on the where anybody does buckshot, I'll tell you there's places I've come across where I literally could have scooped up a five gallon pail just off the surface without any effort, but I didn't want to fill a five gallon pail up because I couldn't have carried it that easily. But first when I walked up, I thought, man, it's kind of gravelly here. And then I realized it's like nobody had cleaned the range up in probably a decade. And anything that hit the ground had progressively eroded back out and had settled down to the bottom of the impact area. So all you had to do is walk along with the flat blade shovel and just scrape off the surface and load it right into the bucket after you scraped up, scrape it with the bucket first and it get heavy. And then use the shovel and you've got all the lead you need. So Mark good good combination there. Go ahead callers up in there, please Just real quick is I've been asked this last couple of your typical fireworks pyrotechnics The stuff inside those things off. Is there any kind of application not for reloading the biggest now? Would depend on which of the fulminates or which type of picrics they actually used with the with the dent with the munition because you get different colors. God get this out. You get different colors and you also get different velocities with different combinations depending on what they're trying to do. Remember that most all of those types of munitions are again at high velocity and literally a slapping explosive charge. There was a formula for using breaking down fireworks like M80s That was part of one of the old munitions manuals the improvised munitions manuals. It was a military one that use argued about using those using the the stock material that's the charge to reactivate the primers which it probably would it would act I would also say probably like a Magnum primer and Because remember, the nature, what you have is a very volatile, high velocity powder encapsulated in a containment vessel. And that expansion creates the report and everything else that you want. You add different types of metals or different types of chemical bases to the combination to get the coloration you want. So, again, and that would be, it wouldn't be a big deal, but the coloration issue would not, most of the time would be considered a cross-contaminate problem. In an improvised munition where you're not worrying, you just want to get that spark, it wouldn't be an issue. But depending on what color, remember we've talked about this before, different materials are prilled to a greater degree and the coloration may be susceptible, not that all munition powders are susceptible to moisture, but it might be more susceptible because of the nature of its What is it? Absorbency. There we go. That is correct. And I'm trying to think of the term there though that's used in the industry, but it's basically it's absorbency. So if you use certain pie types of powder off of say, squib charges that are great colors, like you know, the low end, well say low end, middle grade or low end, civilian fireworks. You could take a percentage of that material and use it for probably reactivating the primer. You wouldn't use it for a propellant charge, but you could also take it sideways for other types of throwable munitions, or use it for, for instance, enhancing things that you can launch, like improvised mortar rounds or shoulder-fired recoilless. Like the pencil false type idea remember you need quantities so that's the only thing and you would be changing the containment vessel from that cardboard tube taking the filament and Utilizing whatever containment vessel is more aggressive as air go building up greater pressures so yeah, it would be most likely where that would what that where that would help us would be with the Primer issue because and that really is critical so good point to bring it up We don't want to waste any of those things. In other words, don't play with them when you can actually work with them. I believe that the smaller squib charge type filament would be your first best choice for the primer, for activating a primer. Basically what you do with that, at least with almost all the different fulminates and whatever is being used, oops, sorry about that. I didn't mean to touch the mute button. But what happens, basically you take the material, stabilize it with a little bit of alcohol, just take a little drip of alcohol on the end of a spatula. You would pull out so much before you did that, apply a small amount of the alcohol high grade with no water preferably or highest grade of alcohol possible. Remember, water is a contaminant, okay? And a lot of the alcohol you're buying right now is 50-50. at best. Now I just had a store here that just got 70 percent alcohol in and of course now they're charging twice what they used to for it. Ideally you want something in the pure like the purest form of alcohol. You're only going to use a very small amount of it at a time. You want it so that it will vapor off and basically what you do is you turn the the filament into a or the filler whatever it is into a paste And then you take a very small amount of that with a conventional chemistry spatulum. After you've opened up the, well, let's go back to the primer. We've opened the primer up. We took the little anvil out of the inside and set it off to the side. We take a trim nail and we hammer the dimple back in. We then go over to the material that we have on standby. We use a little bit of the alcohol, just a small drop. We activate the stuff to turn it into a kind of a pudding, is basically where it is, but it's minimal. You don't want any more liquid in there necessary. But you want to be able to create a mild or light paste. You take the spatulum, you apply the material into the primer itself, stabilizing it and spreading it around the whole area on the inside. It doesn't need to be very thick. You don't need that much. Again, basically just to paste the surface, coat the surface. You then reintroduce the anvil, set the primer upright obviously so you don't sloth off any of the material, let it dry. Then what you do is, when the time comes, you want to introduce that primer to the primer pocket of whatever you're loading as soon as you can because you didn't add any additional bonding agent and you don't really want to anyway because you don't know what kind of cross, again, how many other chemicals are tied into whatever you're using. You know that its combustion rate and its expansion rate is sufficient for what we're going to do here. It is designed to create obviously a high level of spark which runs down the Prima pocket or Prima channel, activates the primary charge as is normally the case and the thing goes boom. But that is the it's a simple process first of all let me remind everybody nothing having to do with putting a bullet together is really complicated the important thing is creating consistency from Component to component more consistent you are accuracy is improved With the primer the big thing here is that as I pointed out if you don't want to overload that primer You don't need to you're wasting material so you only want enough of the filament just a coat the cup itself. And this is a technique that's been used before by any number of different special warfare groups or individuals improvising in the field. It's actually in 100 different manuals. But other materials can be used. Match tip has been used. That's the most common you'll see referenced. The problem is it's strike anywhere match tips and those are now very few and far between and are usually special order. And, in fact, there's all kinds of restrictions on them if you're shipping them. How do you like that? That's the way the worlds change. Used to be you'd buy them at the dime store and they'd be stacked up like cordwood. But if you just take a razor blade, rather than worrying about the squib, you can go with the strike anywhere tips, you take those off, and basically the amount that you have on a single standard match is sufficient to activate a standard primer for say a small pistol or small rifle. So about that mass is what you would use. You really don't, or actually you're trying to skip because again you only have so much of the agent available that you're trying to introduce to reactivate the primer. The other issue is again, as was pointed out, primers and powder of the shortage item. Well, a solution using shot shells would be the direction to go to get more small arms ammunition in play because the shot shell is more forgiving. Low pressure, high velocity. Pyrodex is already a proven combination with that particular type of load, that kind of weapon. And so that is a good replacement so you don't lose the shell in terms of some kind of performance. What you do, you benefit because you're now enhancing or expanding the amount of other munitions you have available. So again, good solution. That would be the way to go. Combination-wise, again, scavenge the lead, recover the brass. The brass is the one thing you're going to have to really watch for, but it's out there because, again, not as many people are able to load if the components aren't there. The other thing here, this is all in theory, of course. We know that. Application is another world altogether. But the big thing is that we're not going to use the firecrackers or fireworks for loading powder. Do not, do not, do not. This is the same problem you have with, as I mentioned before, EC blank. Basically, EC blank is a squib type powder. Now, you know what? I really thought about that one. That's a good point. I mean, not really, not seriously, but you know, EC blank powder... First of all, the problem is that if you do liquefy it and you are should say emulsify, if you applied it once it dried, I don't think that it would bond properly. That's one of the biggest problems. So but the EC blank is working at a higher velocity and in fact is an explosive charge. That's why they use a smaller charge for blank powder use for, forgive me, for a blank charge use. and why the system is set up the way it is to maintain a compression chamber. A restriction on the barrel ensures that the gas is retained and of course cycles the action, etc., etc. You're familiar with that if you've been in the military with blank adapters. But that would be another option. The biggest thing is I'm trying to think of what to use. I'll have to look at a manual on that because that's the first thing that comes to mind is something that I don't even want to mention on the air because I don't want anybody to, oh, Mark said to do this. But as I recall, see, what you need is something that will work as a water-soluble adhesive, but you only need a very, very, very, very small amount. And remember, cross-contamination, which deactivates the prima powder, is something you don't want to see happen. But a small amount can be bonded to the material so that it can paste it. You need to be able to literally kind of like glue it into place. But we can't, we're not thinking, go ahead, jump in there. Yeah, Mark, when you were talking about reactivating primers, that occurred to me that there are now these kits and even individual components for reactivating 22 long rifle, including new plumbing compound. Yep, that would work. Yep. That would be an again all correctly. It's not very expensive One more knife. I think even but Kay has some of it right now. I believe you're correct I've been on Aim surplus by the way and they have ammo in any of our usable calibers Right. Well, that's what I feel again. I was so you would just want to keep a keep an eyeball on them just in case But then again, nobody's Nobody is able to bail the boat that well, so we'll see what happens. And again, real quick on this, we're looking at waste. Okay, this is something we've always had to do in the shooting world over and over again, but the level of interest today far exceeds anything we've seen in the past, first of all, in terms of loaded munitions. And then now everybody's realizing that the ammunition industry and the supply system isn't going to keep up with the interest. So now everybody's looking at how do we use the components we have because everybody basically understands reloading. And again, first choice always is to use factory components wherever they're manufactured. But remember, at a given point we're going to war. Those primers that are used are a manufactured item that actually is pretty high up the scale in terms of strategic value, tactical value and strategic value in manufacturing. So where we can find a way to do it, we're going to have to use it. Now in a battlefield situation, in duress, we'd use anything. But traditionally, if you rebuild primers and you do it as a second line production or second stage use, what you do is you relegate those to training munitions or security munitions. And what I mean by that is it goes either to the training units because again, if you have an alibi, you're going to be able to know about it immediately if you have a failure to function. In other words, the thing doesn't cap. The other consideration with security is you're not shooting anybody most of the time. And if you are, most of the time everything, the bullets you will put down range are sufficient. Guard duty for prison camps, that kind of thing is another place where those types of munitions have been sent. And by the way, the U.S. military made all kinds of alternate ammunitions during World War II. In fact, you'll see it on some boxes. Alt. How many of you ever had a box of 30-06 M2 alt ammunition? 30 caliber alt, A-L-T, bracket. Now what that is, is an improvised round using non-standard materials. And what they mean is field improvised for emergency wartime production. Now, a bunch of the OTS-6 got out there, and originally, because we were hard-pressed, the alt ammunition, a lot of it did go to the Pacific like to Guadalcanal. Some of it never made it. It went to the bottom of the ocean with a shipwreck, you know, with a being torpedoed. But a lot of it ended up me going to training units or coastal defense units, not so much even for training. I told you before, when my dad went through Great Lakes, they got 40 rounds at 22. They never fired an OTS-6. They couldn't afford to shoot those bullets. They didn't know if enough they're going to need those bullets to fight to defend the coastline. So a lot of the alternate and or older munitions from World War I were transferred to the coastal defense and to the militias. And that way the manufacturing time didn't go to waste. Now the best stuff went obviously overseas to the troops. But even there they couldn't keep up. So a lot of the alternate munitions like we're talking about went overseas. It wasn't until 1943 that we saw full stability in manufacturing in World War II. And by then there was a by that time there was a big plan for all kinds of munitions plants But in fact before that but they had not achieved it yet guys And they were scraping the barrel everywhere and trying to figure out how to make ammunition any way they could Good call or jump in there. This is John again question. Is there a difference in the small pistol and small rifle? Oh, that's a good question because I believe it will be thicker in the rifle because it's less desensitized, more so. Right. It's got more significant energy behind the firing pin and by the nature of the probably also, I've never really checked that closely, but again, the increase in the amount of foam of activating agent that is part of the primer. So, yes, there probably is a difference, if not in thickness, perhaps in material. Because remember, you can do that either way. They can go with a dissimilar metal and end up with the same end result. The resistance is sufficient that it creates the lack of transfer of energy or the increased transfer of energy. So that is a good question. I would have to actually break a mic out. I just got a whole bunch of those from a shop. I actually should take the time to do that. And it is worth looking into. Good question. I've got a quart jar full of spent primers. There's a mixture between small raffle and small pistol. Right. Well, again, the safety is my basic rule. I know it's tedious, but I'll sit in front of the television and that's just something to keep you busy. You got it off to the side. And I just go through something if I've got a mix and just very patiently, you know, A, B, C, D. Well, you know, if you got a pile of them in a jar somebody had, I'll just, you know, sort them out. I've actually done that though with live ones. Somebody just figured, oh, they're all the same and the guy passed away. So the family just scraped all the primers out of the boxes into one big mason jar. You know what I mean? Yeah. So yeah, there were CCI and there was old Remington. There was, you know, the one good thing is some of them were copper, you know, copper colored. So they were easy to spot. But most of them all look the same until you realize, they got their little logo letter on the back, on the pan side. The biggest thing is to, like you bring this up, the biggest thing guys to remember is go get some cheapy containers, I don't care what it is, go to the recycle bin, empty out some Vlasic Pickle Jars. Mark one for rifle, you know, a small rifle, then one for large rifle, small pistol, large pistol, and then shotgun primers. And whenever you're doing loading, when you're shucking them, put a catcher down below. I usually just take a bottom end of a spray jug, cut it out so it makes a little pan. and catch them as they come out and pour them into the container and that way they're already sorted. Because that just saves you time. It doesn't mean it isn't worth it because look at the price of primers right now. 35 years ago I was just throwing all my primers in a jug, in a jar. But I've got quite a few spent primers. Well that's still good. I mean like I said, the other option is to always load up something with a black powder jar and send it on a hallway. Hey, we're gonna go guys. 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