February 25, 2021
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1h 3m
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Mark Koernke discussed firearms, ammunition availability, and tactical gear on Weapons Wednesday, February 24, 2021. He reviewed current inventory at AIM Surplus (8mm Mauser ammunition), Classic Firearms (10-gauge shotgun shells and various calibers), and Lucky Gunner (tactical gear including elbow pads, knee pads, and magazine pouches at discounted prices). The show featured extensive discussion of pistol designs and manufacturers including AMT, Star, Steyr, and historical context on firearms development in the 1980s-90s, with callers contributing knowledge about specific weapons systems. Koernke emphasized preparedness, parts accumulation for future conflicts, and warned of government overreach and foreign threats.
- 8mm mauser
- ammunition
- tactical gear
- ar-15
- 1911
- amt hardball
- star pd
- preparedness
- second amendment
- gun rights
- magazine pouches
- weapons wednesday
- michigan
- firearms development
- stainless steel
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Look, okay, just get any blunt objects together, alright? If you get corners, bash them in the head, that seems to work out. Keep together, stay sharp, and follow me. It's part of our Constitution. You know, the right to bear arms is because that's the last form of defense against tyranny, not to hunt. to protect yourself from the police. Anybody that wants to disarm me can drop dead. Anybody that wants to make me unarmed and helpless. People that want to literally create the proven places where more innocents are killed called gun-free zones. We're gonna beat you. We're gonna vote you out of office or suck on my machine gun. I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three cornered hat. And speaking low to me, he said, we fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost. You're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On the land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate. and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You trade it in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Both sons of the Republic arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God, keep the torch of freedom burning bright, as Iowoki vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each God-given right, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free? The evening, ladies and gentlemen, this is the evening Intelligence Report. I'm R. Conkey. closer to victory for all of our brothers and on and behind the lines in occupied territories southwest northeast and uh... ladies and gentlemen you're listening to us on liberty tree radio dot four m g dot com liberty tree radio on the satellite and we are on a m f m micro stations and that i'm conventional stations CB Bay stations and Ultra Net Hallmark and Golden Spike Technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska Good afternoon and evening to all of our friends out there in Lower 49 including the great state of Jefferson along with CONUS the outline two states and the territories and of course because of the left coast there are three hours behind us who is still afternoon way out there It is 8.06 PM Eastern Standard Time, the bottom of the state of Michigan, and it is Weapons Wednesday, the 24th of February. It is the 13th year of open Fabian, the socialist and Soviet socialist occupation of America with a K 2021 old earth calendar. I'm killed all she's got, Captain. Any minute she's going to explode. Either that'll give you a 10% more engine power. And 2021 Battle for the Republic Dance of Swords. Yeah, pretty sad for the feds in the first book, only because it's exactly what's happening now is what's going to be happening to them at the hands of those that they think they have the de- Remember with the Communists, all the fools who thought they had deals or thought they were betraying the traders, so to speak, in terms of powwow, you know how they start getting stacked like cordwood. what we know what the boy have planned we've seen it before word i get caught but a bunch of other people are anyway all it is weapons wednesday real quick attention attention attention now they don't have much in fact they don't have much at all the way amal team surplus dot com aim surplus dot com anybody anybody out there as any of those eight millimeter mousers that you picked up remember when they were so keep during those heavy days only eight months ago cool yeah you can buy that uh... mouser action with a barrel bolt everything just needs some speed with the stock in you you were you were in town you were up to up to the uh... grade there you were squared away great role but and then the ammunition thing happened and the ball animals but out there a little bit in the surplus and it's dried up but right now over it being surplus they have eight millimeter mouser in the true spec bullet weight one hundred ninety on eighty eight grain now sometimes over two hundred make abuse eyes to await but uh... hundred ninety eight grain preview partisan p p u eight millimeter browser that's uh... seven ninety two by fifty seven twenty rounds per box for eighteen ninety five which means that they've only come up by a dollar or two for twenty round box of factory fresh amo that's not bad I would point out that the 150 grain is what was cheaper. For those of you who don't remember, it's like, well, it was a little cheaper than that. Yeah, the 150 grain standard eight millimeter, which is kind of like a post-war loading that the Romanians came up with, the East Germans, anybody had Mausers use that later on, but the Romanians cranked out a ton of it and everybody seemed to use it. Steelcase, copper jacket, ball round, and 150 grain. This is 198 grain original spec. And Pre-V Partizan does excellent work, so I'd put that in any gun you've got. You don't have to worry about extreme variance and pressure. Very consistent, very reliable. Boxer Prime non-corrosive heat anneal case, and that means reload, reload, reload. However, that's not all they have. For another dollar, $19.95, they have Pre-V Partizan PPU 8mm Mauser softpoint in the $196 grain. so either way you go you're looking at the original approximately with a grain of the original spec bullets and in this case personally i'd go the ball because it was a dollar less than every dollar count for ammunition you're buying but they do have it in stock over at aim surplus now they have so little ammo they've taken ammunition off the front page like it was they have only those two loads and then they have to make no matter hurts for the uh... uh... uh... what short assault rifle no round The 8 millimeter Mauser is $18.95 for ball and $19.95 for softpoint. Either one would be good. Personal flavor choice there. If you want to go either way, they're out of one, ride with the other. But there's a chance to get some really nice factory fresh, you know, guaranteed it's about as new as you could possibly ask for coming out of the plant. And that's fresh. So that's cool. And it's aim surplus dot com. AIM aim surplus dot com. Aim surplus dot com. There we go. That's all they got. They don't have many other ammo. Everything else they're out of stock of. So, by the way, they do have boat carriers. I have for you guys building AR-15s. Always go over and visit AIM because they do have some pretty good prices on a lot of the basic AR components if you're piecemealing a gun together. I should never deny them that because that is their niche, that's their forte. Ammunition has been their sidebar. Not that they have much luck, but they do have some. Next, also I did mention classic arms earlier, but forgive me, I didn't bring up the, again, for you guys who have maybe some of those air defense duck guns or goose guns, they have had over at classic firearms uh... ten gauge for quite some time and ten gauges i don't know what's like it said they must've almost way back in the warehouse cuz when you if you go over to classic for you know the last year or two and i've i've really been watching for ten gauge well you can't really find it it's like it was just okay where is it what happened all the stuff so they have all the uh... it's the uh... double x old turkey load That's right at the top of the page. You go over to ammunition. Ten rounds for $2.00, or forgive me, ten rounds for how much is it? $22.56 a box, which is $2.25 a shell. But this is 10 gauge. Now this is the number four shot. Remember I was talking earlier about, you know, talking about a walking claymore mine. and uh... if you got a ten gauge if the comes to one of my favorites because it's the last of the big ten gauges that came out recent years it was affordable there's other ten gauges out there made by other top-of-the-line companies but you're talking paying which pay for a on upper-end air fifteen twelve hundred dollars you know sixteen hundred dollars two thousand dollars oh yeah but in this case uh... you got any of those uh... if the colors of their words you know obviously those are some ramingtons out there and flinch chesters for a special niche however right now if you got a grandpa got a ten gauge i'd be buying shells can get that got into service that thing gets pointed to certain direction remember it's going to keep a nice tight little smarter group on target downrange show for a greater distance and more of it when the time comes Now, the other thing that they do have is some 50 caliber over there, and then they do have all the Euro calibers. We've mentioned this before, they don't have much, but they do have some of the Euro calibers. Oh, oh, hold on. They got some Silver Bear. Not to be confused with Huggy Bear, Gummy Bear, or, you know, Chinchilla Bear. In this case, Silver Bear, 7.62x54R, 70 cents a round. It's a 500 round case for $350. and then they have a lot of other all my god stuff i mean like how much is that uh... but the uh... well i'm a few of the things if in the window again this is where you're going to see company named you've never seen unless you've been into uh... certain sports but they've got some bachiary and parlour agree uh... twenty gauge seven eight thousand plug twenty gauge uh... one hundred casings for one hundred shells four hundred nine ninety nine and they have let's see you one no they got two different slugs one of the eight doubts and the other one is a seven eight well one twelve gage of twenty that's why i'm all mark reid so anyway the only a five of the twelve-gauge slug left and they're running about but let's see a dollar twenty a shell of one hundred nineteen ninety nine four hundred two hundred shells which is not bad big box But again, if you're looking for more 12 gauge, there's your solution. In fact, there's some 20 gauge there too. So a lot of you guys might have either the youth 870s or any of the other 20 gauge guns out there. Yeah, keep them, keep them fed. One way or another, round up a little bit, put it on the shelf, keep them fed. One neat thing about the, a lot of the 20 gauge guns out there is that they actually do have The Remington's for instance with the long eye relief scope mount, everything you need, you can put it all together and it's definitely a rifle slash rifle shotgun with a little work within any what are considered to be normal combat ranges nowadays. So it's another solution. If you've already got something, focus more on the ammunition than trying to go out and spend an arm and a leg for another weapon that you know, if it's one over the other and you're a short ammo in general, i'd go the ammunition right now first like i said and if you cherry pick from all the different locations you be amazed what you might find laid around out there uh... another thing real quick is i mentioned uh... the jackass regs that actually is a brand somebody was actually a bunch of questions what did you mean by a jackass reg well the basic design really is made by pretty much everybody but the company jackass uh... started making these back in the eighties actually i think the first of their little cut work goes all the way back to seventy eight or seventy nine but they became really popular in the uh... eighties and by the nineties they were pretty well established i think they're still out there uh... i cleaned out a couple of the companies in the middle eighties that had a bunch of their first generation of heartaches different arrangements so you can carry out a matic she could carry revolvers are like carrying or using the jackass rig with a revolver especially a i'm big okay i'm done just as big so i could carry a an end frame uh... smith model uh... twenty seven in a jackass rig and make it work uh... again little trick there you don't you don't worry about getting the gun out of the holster for that first round get your hand on the weapon you pull weapons slightly out away from the holster after you've broken it break the bomb the bomb control and uh... polluter turn that you don't have to like an automatic re-entry about ejection remember the nice thing about a wheel gun it even if you're hung up inside some clothing you just keep it so it shielded turn your body and fire through your jacket fire through your coat for your your dress got on like a suit coat which is what i would you know would be doing The jackass rigs were pretty economical in the middle 80s simply because again like I said the second generation and third generation were out there and the first generation stuff was good but it was they changed materials for instance a lot of the hangers had plastic snaps which worked and were designed to try and you know make that one piece a little more reliable but they went away from that towards a number of other keeper systems on their own if you've got these you'll know what I'm talking about so I had a chance to really play with these. Of course, the typical configuration is pistol on one side, double speed loader or double mag hanger on the other side. And the other thing about these is that they're free hanging. It's like a, basically a sports bra, except there's obviously nothing up front being cupped. But the idea behind it is that you have just a crossbar member and everything hangs naturally on the shoulder with the way that the upper scallops were built. and they were very comfortable they're very comfortable so i read to wear it's really great for you know casual undercover re-reactive pressure for standing up a lot you're gonna be you know move around like i said the biggest problem is a bigger the gun the more likely a print that's why i was mentioning in the mentally to our block uh... the little chubby stubby forty fives are perfect for that kind of rig because they're not real long slide almost of the undercover guns are like that but you know the forty five if you want to look at the fury of like man you got a couple of bark and you know puppy dogs there will pull pull pull uh... there that's one of the best ways to go as far as a carrying system now the the bucket system and what i mean by bucket system i don't that term but everybody's familiar with but no more shoulder holsters the traditional in fact even your military the if they cop bucket system in that the if you're normally standing up the uh... shoulder holster actually hangs propaneo parallel not perpendicular parallel with the body and the idea is that you just kind of drop the gun into the bucket. and the advantage there is a pretty well-staged even if you open it up and leave it loose uh... but you're going to bend over and do something stupid not thinking you're not going to spill your gun out onto the ground or anything like that you still basically have the same system though and that gun is on one side magazines around the other although the traditional you typically get kind of a suspender support by hooking up and having a lower connectors are strapped and suspension strap uh... like spender straps that go down to the belt line and this stabilizes the things so it doesn't move around keeps it close to the body again the bigger the gummy here is the freedom matter what kind of undercover reggae use so still uh... the big advantage of say the bucket types is if you have that smith and wesson uh... and for a bit you really really really want to carry it kind of undercover uh... then a standard will of shoulder holster with a bucket type system or its lengthwise with the body A 6 inch barrel is easily stored that way and will stay with the contour and isn't going to make a whole lot of noticeable markings when you're moving around from inside poking out on the suit. Not a thing you're always concerned with because we're looking at combat operations but it's just, you know, you never know what you're going to be doing. Remember, you might have to get closer. We'll be hunting them harder than they're hunting us when the time comes and a variety of different systems are useful. uh... somebody's asking what was that work with body armor or with the jackass rigs build not a problem you can wear in fact they did it great well with any kind of body armor typically aware if it's undercover armor obviously if you put something over top everything or you can you get your shoulder ulcer oops the matter you've got a rethink things how you set them up the other more about about a lot of the carry systems is everybody's asking about leather versus along the plastics that the personal flavor choice there they affect everything about hanga is almost here it was completely personal flavor choice they're because there are people who prefer now i love all gun owners so i don't care what your system is to show up for the fight okay article we have uh... just walking uh... i'm just going to remember reading the pay Don Johnson used a jackass rig on that show. What if it was Miami Lice or something like that? Yep, very early 80s with Miami Mice, with Miami Vice. But yes, that was where, in fact, the Bren 10. Remember, it was the Bren 10 that they were using? And that's what made it popular and also really that's what gave them the money to expand the line. that work at what happened just like uh... and of course is funny because the brent and what the other way they they they had the brent and the brent and with an excellent solution or really is nothing wrong with the pistol for whatever reason it was a management and the moment that put the company out and all with the gun off offline uh... because of uh... lack of proper preparation for mass production uh... when they realize they were popular they couldn't keep their magazine production up as we know the when they have the the jackass rig the brenton all these companies ended up really cranking stuff out because of that television series absolutely right mark don't forget that the don't forget that the comic from miami all the other day comic and also the micro if the car remember the micro if the car thirty seven pump got yeah not enough but personally i would never go that way what i would i thought there was a man when they did that with the uh... if they come but yeah the uh... they tonic what but and they can make a still they all these guns can hold their own the brand new brent and if you have one thought i think about getting rid of your actually part of enough magazines to still use it then uh... it's a fine weapon uh... they tonic especially their member of their little chubby stubby undercover uh... was one of the go-to guns for the longest time and i'd still it's one of those weapons uh... that are i have no problem using i've nothing wrong with the design uh... the biggest thing is again uh... proprietary parts but no only a few of them currently many parts are not likely to wear out the first place or not an issue but the uh... would be comics Remember because of that they had a whole bunch of other guns that they did spin off into and some of those had they stuck would really be in their own today. So thank you for bringing that up because there's a lot of arms guys you have to wonder if like it they really weren't there they weren't bad designs they never really had any problem with you know toothing problems where it was like well yeah it was a good gun but you know there's always that but and there was like well we were probably doing this or that. There's a lot of decent firearms, especially on the 45 platform. AMT, OK, AMT, how they fumbled there was the outside influence of the company because they really... AMT was their own... you know, we all play Caltech. The designs that they came up with, one of my go-to guns, one of the weapons you will say, you know, we would see me with, uh... is a long slide uh... a m t hardball or i've had that simply came out that weapon i will track drive your ass to the hundred yards for a time everytime not making a nervous it was a lot of our work that the terminator uses that i could eliminate the use of a lot of light into the the empty forty five would be on the right edit but that was the gun that seriously that we've that was the first Long slide 1911 that really was was the perfect combination and successful and Needless to say you could take that to a an old got you know Gov our ordinance, you know armor a lot of guys whether you leave the army they go they go to their own business and back in the after Vietnam guys there were we all that's how we built all those rifles I told you about m4 km1 a's and you know, M1 grams These guys you take a 1911 to them. They tune it to supernatural match back and that that empty hardball or it all the flight which is drive right in you know keep a quarter size group of fifty yards all day all days long as you were good shooter uh... in fact if you were worried about it support remember that the first rule if you're not sure about the shot get some support under the arms and again get them control of the gun know how to handle it with your two-handed proper combat combat sports pants but uh... empty backup they started out with a three eighty backup everybody remember those effect every mechanic plumber and electrician in detroit had an empty backup in their in their toolbox why well it's a good to about to know called a paper the crack at it coming in behind the picky was going to be all you try to rob you literally this happened all the time they try to get across paper the drug muggy a well we have to be back up with right there put right there your ball you know i think i you might be probably just want to go back the other way so it was beautiful because it was it was a beater gun it didn't rusted and in three eighty auto bark like a dog it was just that perfect fit for fury when you needed it and the guys that did use it were very satisfied with how it put somebody down. From that they were able to get into all of the rest of the pistols that were so famous and the reason they hit the market perfect because stainless to me still is the first best choice. If I could get for instance like right now if you were to ask me well what's one of the guns Uncle Mark's looking for for troops? if i could get a raw fee jay frame or k frame stainless six-inch i'd be buying the hell out of right now that was one of the sweetest utility backup pistols you could find in a city get in a six-inch remember that i it was uh... i can remember the note the number on that one uh... but it was it was a mimic of a cross between a standard j frame they can be modified it or said it may apply and a j frame but with a diamond with a uh... uh... diamond back type uh... off silhouette so that the gun had had the length like uh... like a uh... the uh... cap that will be up in alaska but they also made the main gun in a key frame model ten in stainless steel Now, I found out a few years back here that, you know, L. Rossi's gone as far as in the market, but that gun, to me, was one of the perfect combinations of everything you wanted, and again, you could get it a long barrel. So for a backup gun, it was a good thing to have around, especially for people outside in the water, in the rain, in the snow, and it was 100% stainless. Go ahead, College, jump in there. get back to the a m k did they have a problem with that stainless steel uh... it was kind of uh... that problem with the metal galling well that will where they had a problem with that now that they could be no that one of the thing that they initially started out what happened is nobody was working to a list of the lesson uh... a m p both were kind of competing at the time and a m p was the well because remember they don't have the hardball is that they had the three eighty They had the hardballer and then they had, don't forget, their magnum line. 22 auto mags. Oh yeah, that dirty hairy pistol from forever. And not only that, but they made it remember in also 30 caliber carbine. And a lot of guys listening right now, that's what they carry as their second pistol. Or as their backup gun. Their hand gun. A lot of them, they made a version of the auto mag. And the auto mags were the next logical step. And the auto mags in 44 and 45 uh... which by the way we love those because all that they did to make the forty four auto mag what they did is they just cut down a three oh eight days like i told you about last couple days about you know making battle cases down the road to make the forty four auto mag all they did was took an existing for prototyping the use existing uh... brass uh... three oh eight case and cut it to the dimension that made sense for the grip for the size of the you know the size of the at the hand grip that they wanted and they engineered everything around that that program and the forty four auto mag that gun is again that's another one of those weapons that uh... it's not a problem there's nothing that was unique about that was an issue uh... it was easy to fix easy to repair he he he he clean and because it was a lot and it did make any difference what you use you work and have a problem with it not that we we we don't have any wouldn't have any uh... corrosive uh... forty four auto mag right But going back to the calling thing, what happened with that was not that they had a problem with the metal, but stainless steel requires a whole different class of tooling and tooling specs when it comes to maintenance on your cutting edge. And what happened is they got so popular that they let their tooling run long. And what they had was you'll see, they were looking a little coarser and they would have you'll have a little bit of of of like it is a dollar spalled where you and they were cutting it that it would be it was it was noticeable but it wasn't radical in other words it wasn't like uh... some of the stuff you see that century it was doing there about what twenty years ago uh... they subtle that real quick by realizing that they want to keep their name they keep their production up Now, they had the right stainless, and that's the other thing I've mentioned many times on the air. There's guys listening, they're into metal or jewelry, well, they're into steel, they're into welding. You pick the right metal, you've got the right solution. You can get over 500, 540 different stainless out there, including magnetic stainless. And I've actually asked somebody about that who was in from the gun engineering standpoint. It wasn't AMT. But did you ever think about going with magnetic stainless? Because one of the advantages of magnetic stainless is, certainly it still has the chromium content, but it's a higher conventional metal, it's on that end of the scale, and it literally is magnetic stainless. You can take a magnet, tag it to it. I've got five panels outside. I used to find it in all the kitchens. I used to find it in a lot of kitchen tools. They would be, I don't know what the reasoning was, but I think it had to do with where, okay, because of food services. You can use any stainless, probably four food services, but magnetic stainless, the nature of the crystalline structure being typically, I think, finer. But the one advantage of it is it also is a lot easier to mill and manipulate when it comes to fine finishes where you want to get a better finish, but still a dull finish. because that's the other thing about guns uh... stainless that's why they know it's it's the you try to go with a map finish out you've all probably already seen that guys you can do a gloss finish but at night if you're trying to be a little comfortable uh... anything with a light shines on chrome or polish stainless so that was the the issue behind wal-man that will bright especially at night if you're not trying to be seen so the for the that's where the all the hard coats came in And so you've got stainless guns with still a conventional finish. All bet looks kind of like a paint. It was cruder when they first came out. But that dealt with the shine. Now the first solution obviously was air-rushing. As you know that, you know blasting. And you do a light bead blast on it and create a flat matte and then leave some areas finally polished. You especially see that on the AMT hardball or it's obvious. Looks cool. Really looks slick. uh... one of the big advantages again that you could get stainless mags and before anybody else was doing them a m t matched up their guns with the game with mags and that kicked off a whole market into itself which to this day still survived and they mark dot nobody was talking about a little bit that time except that that company police don't forget the crew the current three fifty seven mike the amiado right well that in the same line as i give the rest of the uh... it during this window of time you had a m t but don't forget you also have all four five of the company's trying to get into the market and probably like everything we've ever seen in the past uh... in addition to the lines that they were already making inside empty you had other people coming up with other products that were formally employees of a m p uh... this has happened with front of the fifty caliber you know guns the same way and a couple of other different pattern guns out there that were not really all that heavily restricted so it was easy to make up a mimic or a shadow of them. I think the neat thing is that again, they were willing to press the limit on that. We had more people with the wherewithal knowing how to work metal and we had the advantage of a massive industrial base still at that time because this is pre-NAFTA and GAP. And so because of that, all of the technology holding over from the space program, the end of the Vietnam War, all of that we benefited from plus what most people don't know, and I keep mentioning this, understand that if you're smart, you go to the Library of Congress, your tax dollars paid for a massive amount of research that wasn't necessarily built. They spent millions of dollars on a program and then just froze it. And what happened, and I personally believe this is the case with a lot of the stainless projects, is back when United States Steel had a big sway on the donut of destruction, aluminum from the other end, that's how we got the weapons that we ended up with to a degree or why they moved away from certain products but still were willing to research them. They found out they wore well, they lasted longer, but you can't sell more guns if they wear well and last longer. So, like I said, if you go to the Frankfurt Arsenal, all of these ideas, a lot of what we're talking about, eventually you find out the world is not as big as you thought. And people with like minds end up with the same results as all the solutions. And it turns out that, for instance, stainless, that Aberdeen was researched quite extensively, so was titanium, so was magnesium alloy weapons. are all magnesium weapons parts, particular solutions, which really wasn't a bad idea, but remember it is magnesium, and aluminum and magnesium are kind of unique when they get to certain temperatures. But for shaving weight off of pilots, guns, aircraft weapons systems, et cetera, then going into titanium, going into magnesium or magnesium alloys, aluminum, obviously all the aluminum spectrum metals, Once they had it where they were working with it, then they were given the free hand to go into other areas. All that research is on paper. If you're willing to go to Washington and go through the National Archives, all of that is publicly accessible. And that's what these guys did. Go ahead. I'm sorry. Jump in there. You know, the mid-80s was a great time. firearms development. I mean there was just a lot of cool stuff coming out then. I was quite a bit younger of course. I remember when the Glock first came out everybody, they went on about how ugly they were and the big to do about them was they could get through an airport security screen. Two more things I'm gonna let you go. Do you have any experience with the Star PD model? Oh yeah. Or the Steyr GB. I think it was a 19 shot 9mm. Yeah, the oh come on, the copy was, remember the stainless steel copy was made in the outside of Chicago. The P18. The P18, the question to an answer that was never asked, how screwed up can you make a stainless steel gun? but the but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but but and once you start working on a part if you couldn't if you figure like i've been playing here that you were looking at kind of like wartime production pretty wouldn't count as much as does it fit okay but you and you could turn a gun you can individually hand-tuned every weapon you build but it really doesn't serve a purpose because you spending a lot of production time fixing something that if you get it right when you produced it you wouldn't have to fix And that's what happened with the P18, and they're basically almost hand-tuning every gun and still couldn't get it right. Now, the, on the STARS, the PDs, those guns are actually a very, very, very useful weapon. There's a handful of STARS that are coming out, STARS aren't out there anymore. But one of the other guns that I carried was a STAR, staggered magazine chief model, .45 ACP. It was one of the first staggered, way before all the, like the Chubby Stubbies came out. uh... that was uh... for short window everybody when i came out all the cop shops bought it and then they got rid of it uh... because there was another got on the horizon and another gun magazine probably the clock but the uh... the the uh... star guns themselves there's nothing wrong with them there it just uh... some of the around long enough that a lot of the park inventory has been used up but there are still a bunch of those guns coming in so i guarantee that the park inventory will come up over a period of time Were you looking for magazines for the gun? No, I was just reminiscing about some I've had in the past and let go. I just remember back about 84, 85, I had to start a PD. I was thinking one time it was like the most stock, lightest, compact, 45 ACP. Well, the thing is that it was actually adopted in experimental adoption all weapon overseas of for the Spanish military in forty five a c p and the advantage of that is that it gave them the ability to crank out more of the guns and they pushed it to push down to the American market and it took off initially took off big time uh... the biggest issue was magazine but what i picked one up and i was cool is that by the time i got at the guns were harder to find but all of a sudden all these companies that were doing you know independent magazines cranked out a bunch of them and i was buying the mags for six dollars apiece so what i did about twenty mags and i can actually carry that gun with a you know a battle bag when i was speaking around the country i carry that gun carry two mags on the other side of the jackass rig carry three magazines on the belt and had a battle bag with magazines that will look like a little briefcase with my notes and stuff if I needed any which typically don't. Mark, you also remember back in the mid 80s, maybe late 90s, I think at that time it was called SWD out of Atlanta, they came out with a street sweeper and they sold the thing and then they came back out and said, oh that's a destructive device or whatever they called it. They made everybody register those things. You remember, I'm sure you remember that. Well they eventually recalled them completely. First they wanted everybody to re-paper them as NFA weapons. then in the end they finally just told everybody you gotta surrender after they found out whoever brought him in where they could figure out where they were once they did that then they confiscated them so if anybody's wondering about the you know will cut you know how could they do that well that's exactly what they did they did exactly the way everybody warned and the street really there was anything i mean it was a neat idea and it was a neat design and actually had been out before we back in what pre-world war two i would say what was it but one of the safety gun companies is what it was called safety left that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that it was no more significant than a long bear i mean just it for them arguing that all my god this is horrible it was a propaganda thing because it's like everything else they went from uh... the in the years ago with the car being if you had an m one car being you were evil okay if you don't think so guys i could show you all the propaganda from way back when they were shown the cops and they were hunting all of the gun owners back in the sixties it with the m one carby if you had a one carby you were evil and then all of a sudden they had the air 15 to work and so the air 15 was out there for a bit but don't worry there was other guns on the horizon uh... the tech nine which is kind of come and gone and that still pops up every once in a while if you don't even talk about it i don't know anybody's even making a copy of the tech nine now maybe they are but uh... the street sweeper got cut got thrown in there because it just looks evil man but you know there's uh... eleven hundred with uh... an extended a double extended tube all man i hold your butt down so hard make your head swim and it's just as you know i'd leave a full-length barrel on a full bird barrel on it put a double extension i got about ten of those that i built up in those are different stations you know just for that reason because you know you load it up and it's like worry just about put bullets on them until eleven hundred so it's a mile of your focusing on shoot shoot shoot there's no second you know second action promise eleven hundred got kind of pricey but you know again again now with remington the situation of ten we won't be anything in full production for a while from them. And heaven forbid you've got your pistol loaded with black palanam, oh god forbid. Well that was the other, my name, remember that was one of that, well that's Handgun Control Incorporated. All of these different products you know first of all the became popular shooters world all of the what what the anti-gunner to as they go to the magazine to read the articles and and something like that sticks to the kids that's not evil yeah black talent we've got a planet we've got a black man it will what about the other twelve ammunition for like it what what other twelve ammunition hall well thank you for mentioning that will have those two actually they never did they just tell a black talent like amo i think the the most fascinating thing about this is again as we've been there's always a du jour weapon the a k replace the a r ever for a long time guys that he pulled black gun and of course and they went to the eight k a k and then back to the a r now of course you guys are building so many a r's that that's pretty much the poster child for the moment and they're all basing them on what they're seeing in the trends Okay, because there's plenty AKs out there still. It doesn't mean they won't attack an AK given the chance. But right now it's the evil black rifle again. And in fact, all the propaganda is exactly what they did in 1977 against the AR-15. They're doing it again, and they're just taking crap that's 40 years old and pulling it back out and dusting it off. And don't worry all you deer hunters. and uh... uh... precision shooters out there they're coming after evil snapper raffles sniper type rifle which by the way of the hand gun control incorporated nineteen ninety three nineteen ninety four agenda sniper type rifle they've been state that you know you come up with a moniker for each one of the weapons of they want to take them and then when they're all done the last thing they do is go after the cop guns even says it right there in their documents and what they use the cops but they can use their international groups international police to go after the idiot cops who were stupid enough to cooperate with confiscating the guns so just a heads up guys anyway real quick look go back uh... the rob on the a m t's on the forty five now because we got on that for a minute uh... the somebody just asked what what about parts for those or guys are standard nineteen eleven in reality you can use carbon steel parts on the on the gun for replacement uh... but there are a m t parts still in the inventory out there and uh... as a matter of fact uh... might i want to take on parts court must have bought one of the change out factory uh... leftover parts inventories because they changed well all one of the subcontractors years ago it's like uh... hokkama what is it uh... e circle circle has all of the uh... forty five uh... stack frames from uh... you know what from the uh... all of the factory got a bad rattle it off effect when they first came out of credit everybody by the frames because they were eighty percent they were eight percent be intentional they just they were that far with the stop production and there was no paperwork in the things were six seven and nine dollars apiece now everybody's being charged your two three hundred dollars for the same stinking frame you could have had for nine and there was more finish work down on those frames then uh... you would be with the president eighty percent dot but they still qualified as a non-firearm uh... in addition to that uh... circle and uh... e-dare's park or link dot com or gun parts or dot com both have a lot of the uh... parts for both of those weapons systems and so you cannot work with re-author repeat error ordinance yeah the pyramid dot yet all i'm sorry to mention the other parent to be to be prepared or pare or not enough the big chunk of spare parts over at sarco i guess of what's left because the people have been by mail of those they actually had some really decent character prices for the pair ordinance comes they had the uh... with the warthog they had a bunch of those and uh... remember that most of the pair ordinance uh... parts are nineteen eleven parts so i mean there's a few things you gotta do because you got a compliment for that magazine you know we got to be chubby uh... double-stack magazine well that's the big difference again uh... still basic parts or critical where parts are all the same so the good thing is if they're not perfect remember work as a gunsmith and learn to lap and finish any of the party to make them work right That's the basic rule. You don't grind on stuff like that, guys. This is where patience counts. Then you become a fitted armorer. That's what you're going to be doing. So we can keep all these guns running. The big thing is right now, accumulate the parts, pieces, and assemblies so that you're ready for the second generation of whatever rebuild needs to take place. A lot of people are like, well, we won't be firing that many rounds. Oh, you'd be surprised what we'll do in a seven to eight year war. i know you might trade out for another gun but you you get you'll get so used to certain weapons you'll just want to keep around if nothing else because they're mementos of your that escapades and eventually would like to have mangan on the wall trust me and you might give for the next war after the for after the one we fight right now because we will and a problem with another one after this at the very least we got one right behind the other first we're gonna be dealing with the police state the characters they've got hit under the under the rug And even as we finish that junk off, then the rest of the foreigners are going to hit us and we're going to be in a dump. So we're being betrayed by the military. We're being betrayed by this government. They are considered working with foreigners and they know exactly what they're doing. Be ready for it. We got to deal with it. Congratulations. You're just like the founding fathers. In fact, you're going to be making an epic history, which you're going to be doing real. Go ahead. I'm sorry. Hey, I'm lucky gunner.com. Lucky Gunner dot com. Lucky Gunner dot com. Under specials. They have Black Hawk brand coyote colored elbow pads. 99 cents. Ooh! They have 76 of them left. Also, they have, and this is a lot of Black Hawk brand stuff. And you know Black Hawk's pretty good. They have knee pads if you get three or more they're three ninety-nine a pair Excellent and right now guys snag on that in five looking at thank you very much For anybody out there the elbow elbow and knee protection invest in it now for ninety-nine cents You can't say you can't afford that Thank you also. They have 87 of the knee pads and Then they have a chest. It says it's for the AK-47 and the AK-74, but it will fit AR mags. 51 of them, $15 apiece. Well, in addition, they also have some of the battle belts for $4. Black belt pads, they got them in the small and they've got them in the medium. So for any of you guys that are looking at trying to outfit the rest of the family because you can't afford to, well for ninety nine cents for elbow pads and for three ninety nine for brand new knee pads are you really can't beat that for what it is i've i have wholesalers i've been dealing with for decades they can even bear to bring it any other they think they can really get a pretty reasonable price that's why the stuff is is dried and not dried up completely but you'll notice a price shift has taken place all the people that are spending money on them i've got to put a lot of cash capital out maybe almost three times what they used to pay And that's why you're not seeing a lot of the really great deals. Everybody goes, Mark, you were like three years ago, they were all this cheap. It's like, yes, it was surplus three years ago. Now you're dealing with all the stuff coming in from China in the next wave and they've got the market cornered. So yeah, there's quite a few goodbyes. Again, that is at LuckyGunner.com. LuckyGunner.com. LuckyGunner.com. And the chest pouches are 15 apiece. Chest, they'll see you there in coyote tan Well, you can put a nice combat kit together just what's sitting here Seriously, you go the chest pouch You've actually got for $10 you got the lightweight commando recon back panel in coyote tan strike lightweight commando recon back panel and Although I don't know if that's a net hold on here. What is that? Is that a catcher's that actually have the suspension? looks like that actually is like a a back panel backpack molly reick so you can set up our little you want uh... for ten dollars and then uh... on top of that you've got the elbow pad the deep ads i'm going back up from the bottom elbow the deep ads you want to go that battle belt if you want to that four dollars and then you've got the elbow pad for ninety nine cents uh... well the court for real good price so one thing i've noticed is as the counts go down uh... they go and restock right what they're doing to try to eat up the o'yale they're trying to get the old inventory to knock it out because they want to play the next order like i was just talking about the when they do this will be like the order for the year their their probably you know the deal with one of the importers of the other and really why you want to get a during that down cycle where they're trying to move out what's left Absolutely right. All of those, also on those belt pads, the small ones, they put them up yesterday. They were, they started at 320 and they haven't moved yet. No one's touched them because I've been looking at the inventory all that time. Oh, okay. I mean, they were originally less than they, oh, 320 pieces. I see what you mean. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, this is cool because they do have the actual account for items. If you're curious, you know, hey, can you make a deal? Don't forget, if you really, really, really could use a lot of these, uh, you could call them up, say, hey, I want all 76 pairs. They will probably do a little better. Now that 99 cents, I don't know, but you never know. And it doesn't hurt to ask. The other thing you have right below that, Blackhawk OD Green Strike AK single mag pouches for $1.99. So if you're looking at single mag, and I don't know if those are molly, I assume they are, but assuming is dangerous. However it is... Yes they are. Yeah, so that's a good option right there too, for any of you guys listening. What you do with these, guys I've mentioned the British combat gear, most people don't think to do this, but you remember molly gear, the cool thing is you have straps on straps on straps on straps on straps. so when you put something on the usually straps on the front if you have like uh... side pouches and such you take your spare a k mags you want to carry on your backpack and you were you distribute them in detail occasions on the side of the pack over top of the data sustainment pouch if you've got the one that has the extra straps on it you do one on one on one pouch one on the other and then did it to other pouches on the back between or like should be on the outside of the pub of the of the pack say so this uh... next to uh... whatever utilities center pouch you have this distributed the weight and allows you to carry more magazines as stand by max all the britches to do this with their type uh... not the fifty eight i think the t fifty nine gear if you ever look at it with f a l max they carried a uh... from what they was at fourteen 14 mags and every pouch had a mag pouch on it, but those were sewn into place and it's a good gear you just can't find it. If I could find it I'd buy it because you can use it with the M14, HK91 and the FAL. But you can do the same thing with these and they're only two dollars apiece. Oh wait a minute, oh correction, correction. Boy, it's good that you threw me here because now I'm gonna buy some of this stuff up. If you'll notice it says if you buy 10 they're 99 cents apiece. Everybody catch that? If you buy 10 of those mag pouches they are are ninety nine cent apiece so there are a lot of this yup on yeah you might as well buy ten question we have fifty all got well they will last long but that is worthwhile because they are again uh... the other thing that work with the big old water have a i don't have a decade yet but do you have a forty round air fifteen mag if you have a forty round air fifteen mag that pouch will work perfectly for that purpose because it does have a flexible flap so if you have that long forty rounder you don't have a pouch for or the hell i put that in uh... it works not you know in the way world the others are because you know the usually you've got most everything or any towards thirty round even though most of those will handle forty with very deep system but you don't necessarily put that odd man out the way because it tends to be a pokey point well got a single night culture couple like this you do i was talking about before station the mags if you need to be a god of uh... they're available and it's a carry system this is relatively lightweight stock mob blackhawk if you're not familiar with a little pretty good work and the corner of their work there where they were well parker mark and get that out what the the the uh... as matter of fact yeah i go down to the list and look to see what's useful for you and if you want to come up with the system for all ever friends are listening there you know kind of tight uh... resources well there you go Uncle Mike black triple rifle mag pouch for five dollars and as well as four dollars if you buy a quantity of them. Very good. Thank you for the heads up on that. We're almost to the top here. Get that in. One more time. One more thing, we're shipping is a little stiff though, but it's all across the average. If it's 99 cents, it's probably what, double? It doubles the price? Yeah. Well, that's a little over. Yeah, see, that's still, like I said, I, it depends on which company it is. So check it out, see if it makes sense for you guys. Of course, now here's another consideration. What state are they in? If you're close... Tennessee. Oh, wow. You guys listen in Tennessee, you mean you can't make a little drive and go to the back porch? Go to the loading dock? I would. So far for me, but I know we got listeners in Tennessee. so just a heads up again lucky gunner dot com lucky gunner dot com thank you sir and who are also the top right now uh... all kinds of goofy stuff going on a washington they have that looks like they're trying to find the dirtiest bizarrest twilight zone fruit loop to hire for every position for the petal meat puppets uh... and these characters are here are not holding anything back about being just flat out hate hateful of everything and hating you i mean they hate your country they hate you their careers a three dollar bill petals propping at the mall great red yellow communist and again it would be it will make it a lot easier to go to war against i will say that that's one good thing here make it easier for us to deal with the problem with the time comes so everybody just be scored in front of you but uh... the good thing as uh... one of my friends pointed out today it's like well and most everybody that they want open their faith like we're talking about during the tour block because they're all embarrassed or they like it but they're waiting to see if everybody else is going to tolerate it not i think this is the end of the open the uh... yeah remember my only a friend the uh... and it is and for the door city of the program to by the way to work out the top For everybody out there guys, remember, smile. 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