May 1, 2020
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1h 2m
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Mark Koernke discussed Michigan protests against Governor Whitmer's lockdown orders, emphasizing militia participation and civil disobedience. He provided extensive technical guidance on radio communications, including use of non-licensed frequencies, code systems, and Baofeng radios for tactical operations. The show featured detailed firearms recommendations, particularly 30-06 bolt-action rifles with M2 armor-piercing ammunition, discussing optimal engagement ranges and ammunition sourcing from vendors like CDNN Sports, AIM Surplus, and Apex Gun Parts. Callers asked about ammunition pricing and rifle selection for preparedness.
- michigan protests
- governor whitmer
- militia formations
- radio communications
- baofeng radios
- 30-06 ammunition
- m2 armor-piercing
- bolt-action rifles
- preparedness
- tactical operations
- cdnn sports
- aim surplus
- apex gun parts
- remington 770
- ptr-91
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Check out our website at www.libertiesguardian.com. That website again is www.libertiesguardian.com. Go to the website and check out our selection today. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat and speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the freedoms we secured for you, we hope you to always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate. and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. This number, you trade it in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Both sons of the Republic arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torture freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each God-given right, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free? Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. This is the evening intelligence report. I'm Mark Krunke. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories southwest east northeast and Central ladies and gentlemen you were listening to us on Liberty Tree radio dot 4 mg calm am and FM micro stations AM and FM conventional stations, CB base stations, and UltraNet Hallmark and Golden Spike technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. Good evening to all of our friends out there in Lower 49 which includes the great state of Jefferson along with CONUS, the Outline 2 states, the Outline 2 territories, and the clock. Right now it's 807 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. It is Thursday. It is the 30th of April, last day of the month. It is the 12th year of open Fabian, Socialist and Soviet Socialist Occupation of America with the K 2020 Old Earth Calendar. 2020 year of conflict, year of betrayal. And for all of you out there, Again, it is a beautiful rainy, wet springtime day here at the bottom of Michigan. We've been getting regular moisture for the last day or two. And of course, all the little plants we put in a week or two ago are popping through and producing. So the first wave of food is in motion. Of course, the greenhouse stuff is already sprouting and is already popping through the soil. I'm getting ready to transfer in the next few days some of the pepper plants over to the next size container then take the starter soil use it again for processing yet another one and we will continue to develop and build even more food production as we can straight through the whole of the season right up until the end. Last year we actually had Oh, I'd say about 35 plants. Remember, I experimented, just put him in the greenhouse with minimal maintenance. And they lasted through to about December, which is not bad. With no additional or supplemental heat, I just experimented with other insulation. Remember, there's that peak window at night, about one o'clock, two o'clock in the morning, where you're going to reach about as deep a cold as you're probably going to experience. Seems always like it gets colder just before dawn. Now that's a radiation thing. That's something we've talked about with understanding how the energy hits the atmosphere and how it's reflected, deflected and diffused. But about one o'clock or two o'clock is when you're going to hit your peak for needing some kind of supplemental heat. If you do have a greenhouse, you're running it minimally. Otherwise, you're running in operating temperatures for most of the night. So after the sun sets, even if you have cooler weather like we have right now, typically with a greenhouse, good windbreak, first of all. Second, insulation, which is something I've done extensively with the research greenhouses that we've been building and developing. And now the, again, add a little heat, couple different tricks there, all night candles, just one simple candle in a well. designed structure will keep it warm through the evening. You want to get more sophisticated, use a thermostat, you can add a salamander slash a kerosene or propane run, you know, space heater and run it off solar, which is what we do. And if we choose to do that, but we didn't last year and we haven't the deer before that either. We have run our greenhouses through the hole of a winter, less sophisticated than the ones that we have right now. So getting ready for the next season, we will, and hopefully I'm going to have at least one underground greenhouse completed by maybe the end of next month if we aren't shooting war by then. But in the meantime, I've accumulated everything. I've got all the windows. I have all of the underground revette material I need. Plastic for plumbing. All I've got to do is plug it all in. Got to pick the location. at another site and dig it in which we're going to do with the backhoe just to make it faster, not going to do a vice shovel. And the idea is to build something about probably 20 feet by about 20 or 15, we'll see what happens. And overhead structure, I've got a whole bunch of fascinating frames that I picked up that will secure the windows that we're going to use for the overhead windscreen slash the shelter cover. So, more on that as it develops, but everything's piled up, everything's ready to go. I got to puzzle out some of the wood and some of the aluminum and some of the plastic, but that's not a big deal. That's what all those other tools are for, cutting, hacking, chopping, and adjusting. And we'll get the job done. Let's see, okay, now we'll start with what happened here in Michigan today. Good protest, good turnout. Yes, everybody went into the government building. We can do that here. We've done it before. It's not hard to occupy the Capitol building. If they lock you out, they lock you out. But if they don't lock you out, there's a lot of public space, even though the building's not really that large. If you look at it, it's done in the traditional 1800s government-administrative building design. So it does have high ceilings. They retrograde, re-engineered everything back to the original building design. Oh hell, I think, what was it, 90, I want to say 92, 93. It was right there in the window of the early 90s. And so this building, like many of the others, they took out the shorter ceilings, went back to the original high-rise ceilings, giving more airspace, but also a lot more space to heat, which is something nobody talks about. They, of course, did all the refinish on all of the splendor of the pillars, the columns, the floor, the balisades. Everything has been re-done years ago, and there's been a couple of other upgrades to make sure that everything was stayed, you know, in pretty decent shape. So when you look inside, the building actually is pretty well maintained. And it's decent, but it isn't spacious. It's not that spacious at all. So it doesn't take long to fill it up with a bunch of people coming in through the front door. Now you get the cops in there, and they are blocking things. They take up more of the space that we've been taking up by protesters. And, you know, that's your limitations. Otherwise, yep, everybody kind of showed up ad hoc. I don't believe there was any requesting permission for any kind of protest. It's just people got all the time in the world, ain't going anywhere. So everybody just showed up and did what they wanted to do and worked out just fine. Between yesterday and today's protests, each one we've had militia show up and different volunteers show up. Independent people armed is not uncommon, but again, there were different regimented units that were there, and people that were organized in different ways with different bureaucracies, so to speak, different philosophies as far as how they should be organized. So there was more than, I would say, probably a dozen militia formations represented there in terms of different institutions, okay? In addition, see of course all the other organizations that were ad hoc put together because of what's been going on with the uh... uh... greta slash bruce jenner governor that we have the he she it uh... she's made enemies of a lot of people in fact you can make enemies of pro people who probably kind of like what we've had earlier in the tour block people would have set off to the fighter people who would have probably just sided with her uh... chow's instead to actually, you know, flip away and, you know, start to bite back because it hurt them where it counts in the wallet, which is good. They can't go out and fiddle-fart around the way they normally would. They may not be fishermen because you've got a lot of leftists who, well, they've just got their own things to do. Whatever it is, and it doesn't mean you're who you are, well, all of a sudden that spendable income wasn't there. Then on top of that, in the last couple of weeks, the governments and the banks have been chomping at the bit to foreclose or to put paper on taxes for property or to put paper on loans for cars, houses, boats, which you can't use, which really pisses everybody off because a lot of people in Michigan have boats, but the Canadian California-Cater that we've got, the Greta-slash-Bruce Jenner, said that you could use anything but a motorboat. Well, which is asking him backwards, but the reason for that was to also put a dent in fuel sales, attacking the oil companies. And she's a green. She's not a green. She's not going to be green. That's not even true. She's just a stinking communist-l leftist working for foreigners, following their marching orders and doing for them what Trump helped to make happen. Okay. If Trump hadn't plugged all this crap in, we wouldn't be in the situation we're now. So don't make any excuses for it. It's a waste of time with me. He's in charge. He actually was stupid enough to step up, make the stupid statements he did. And that was the groundwork for bad orders given and bad orders accepted. I've talked about this a million times over the decades. I used to give a class on this. I know exactly what happened and it's their disclaimer while they're lying. Every stinking POS and of all that our government knew exactly what this was going to do. They're lying if they say otherwise. And again, you're just like Charlie Brown adults. Wah wah wah wah. That's all I'm hearing from them. Ignore otherwise and understand that these characters are worse than traitors. They're actually enemy combatants working for a foreign power against the American people. And we need to put them out of our country. We need to get rid of them all now. Because the next thing that they're proposing, they need to die for. I don't have any problem saying that at all. Police state, ID cards, travel papers, piss on you, you POS, you pieces of trash. You're done. As far as I'm concerned, like I said, I don't care how it starts. Good. However it does, good. Let's get it done. Now, for that reason, be prepared. A couple things. There have been a really good number of articles done by people catching on to what we've been talking about with communications. You might want to peruse YouTube, go through, look at some of the discussions about the Baofong radios, which I do agree with. I don't care about the licensing and you shouldn't either. Don't even bother with it. No, no, we got a button all that just government wanting to know where all the radios are So here's how it works the hell with that garbage Just get the radios working get them all up and online and pick the trash frequencies. Nobody wants to use Let me give you a little hint on that if I had kept my hand here he'd explain to you Well, we've already talked about this you have the solar cycle which were in the bottom of right now In fact, we're moving beyond that because you know kind of doesn't wait for anybody and this is already April Okay, the end April headed towards May Um, when, no matter what radio you're using, I don't care if it's a CB radio, wherever you are, there are certain man-made, naturally occurring, uh, obstacles that are created in the radio band. Uh, no matter what bandwidth you want, whatever part of the radio bandwidth you're on, whatever it is, whatever part of the radio system, I don't care, BHF, UHF, FM, AM, uh, long band, short, doesn't make any difference. In all of the authorized frequencies for the transceivers that you're allowed or the receivers or whatever that you're allowed to have, they work within a certain parameter. Well, up and down that particular series of designated channels or designated frequencies, there's always muddy transmission areas. There are places where I just can't reach with channel, you know, fill in the blank. It doesn't, it could be channel three or channel five or channel nine or channel 22. For whatever reason, part of this is urban clutter, which is something nobody talks much about. The closer you get to an urban area, the more background junk noise you have all over the place, guys, up and down the spectrum. Because of this, certain areas are different. Radio frequencies work differently in different conditions, different parts of, you know, where the terrain's different. Radio signal bounce is different. Absorption is different. All these things are part of the math form you have to take into consideration. So, enough on that. Now, what that means is the trash frequencies are the ones you really want to use. I want to tell you something. There aren't that many licensed radio operators in the United States. They really are a minority of a minority. Okay? They're really, they're like pilots. Okay? The more that they've done to regulate piss on everybody, the more people have walked away from it. Well, we don't need to. We just need to remember the junk frequencies are what we want to use. All the rats and monkey poking backstabbers, if you think it's bad, you know, what we're seeing with the old social communist crap, you know, with the snitches and the rats peeking through the curtains and looking at you across the street and calling the cops, if you have to understand something, the ham license people are the exact same way. Exactly the same way. Exactly the same way, exactly the same way. So what you have to do is while you have better frequencies and you'll see more traffic on them, you avoid those. What you need to get used to as an RO, radio operator, is working with the junk frequencies and staying away from the normal traffic lanes. Now you're going to find you're going to have to manipulate your transceiver more. And this includes pulling and, you know, pulling and trashing the gain at different times, working with adjusting or readjusting the second leg of your reset reception or transmission broadcast. Okay, you've got an upper and lower leg. You can actually manipulate. You can even override the, what's called the, well, it's a discriminator. It actually determines whether you're going to use the upper leg or the lower leg. If your unit is sophisticated enough, you can actually override the prioritized system that picks the better leg, upper lower sideband, and centers on it so that your signal is significantly cleaner. You can go the other way. Why do we want to do this? Well, again, the other people are phenomenally lazy and or they're again, anal retentive about the best frequencies out there. Good. Let them stay there. Let the rats and the backstabbers stay over there. We're going to all of the other places and perfecting our skills. I've been doing this for years. It's kind of like everything everything I've played with. Oh, that's not the best. No, there's much better. Yeah, but I can get this real cheap. Can I? Yeah, I get a lot of them. Yeah multiple replacements. Yep get it to work right and I've got like forever broadcasting or I've got forever reloading or I've got forever oh no it's not the most sophisticated but I have all of them that are out there but they were cheap and much cheaper than only one of what you normally would buy because they're not the cast me out they're not the preferred fill in the blank same is true with operating radio And the big advantage here is you're going to develop more skill trying to work a bad frequency than being lazy and running on the guaranteed clean signal, but with a whole lot of other idiots and asshats that might interfere with what you're doing, or they'll decide, they're going to decide that that frequency is their frequency, and how dare you be there, okay? So we completely avoid all of that. We're going out into the boondock, so to speak. We're going into the brush land. We're going to go into the noisy background, static key slash disruptive interference, regularly applied area of transmission and reception, and we are going to build it. Now let me, remember, I will remind you that code gets through when voice will not. Code gets through when voice will not. Always remember that. So, we don't have to know Morse code. We need to know a code or a phonetic code that is used that can offer sentences or particular paragraphs by choice with a single series of dots and dashes. Okay? It's not hard to do, and in fact it simplifies transmission and reduces transmission time dramatically. But you can use what is basically a pre-written book with a precursor, in other words, A through Z, for a letter. And then you can use a combination like cab, bab, bob, fred, red, ding, dong, bung, whatever. And by choosing the first letter, I automatically am taking you to a particular, shall we say, chapter of the code book. I go to the Alpha section. then Bing, and then I can also use numbers Bing and 1 and 5 and 2. Now what happens here is before I do the transmission, I wait for what it is that I have in the way of a command request, I can engineer with my code book the message that I need to send. I can use my phonetic first letter, then I identify the subcategory, which is Bob, Bing, Ding, Thing, Pink, Okay, three or four letters, no more, and preferably something that makes it easy for you to remember. Wow. Wow. Bam. Fred. Bob. Okay? Three, four letters. But also, it's a name. It's a word. Something that's easy to remember so that when you then have a number, the numerical component takes a little more work, but it's still easy enough to remember. I can identify then where I need to go within the codebook. What the specific subject is the letters were spell out the numbers forgive me spell out the message or a more significant message beyond what the first part of the discriminator told somebody Sometimes I may only need to use Bob Fred Jim Jan Rand R&D I spell it out. It's in code. It goes to the other end. They get it. They use the phonetic book The identify step by step what it is. Nobody else in between can have a clue about what you're saying. It is similar in terms of a past book to using a paperback or a hardbound novel and having three, four, or five of those as what it is as a code book. Every operator has one of these books at the receiving and sending end. The books can be trash love novels. They can be science fiction. They can be documentary, they can do whatever, it doesn't matter what the little man your little book is, but by having that paperback ready to go, I can actually, step by step, map out a message that only you and I can identify. When we want to change code books, we just simply put the old book we had back on the shelf, go find a pile of the next batch of books to distribute, tell everybody what book we're using. And we pull it off the shelf and we use the latest docudrama. You know, Pirates of the Caribbean, blah blah blah, truth or fiction. Little paperback. It's got like 20 some chapters. It's about half an inch thick. Guess what? There's your code book. So that's another solution. But that's a little more expanded for another day. Now, enough on that. The basic idea here is that get used to working your equipment and settle for less because you don't need that much. Let me point something else out. I don't want to talk to the planet. I am tactically communicating with another unit. In fact, they may be relatively close. And if they are, I don't need to send a signal past my local area of operation, and I don't want Mexico to hear it. I don't want anybody outside the area of operation. So a scratchy... Distorted, interrupted transmission is just fine, especially since when I'm repeating three times everything once and then I do it all again and I do it all again, the signal's going to get through, the message is going to get through, and I can use packet computer radio to get that done, by the way, so the machine does all the sorting work, if need be. Just something to think about there. There's all kinds of tricks. Now, the big thing is, start doing the research. Whoever it is is going to be in communications as the master of that trade. Absorb everything that you can watch everything I can that's what YouTube is really great for ignore the licensing BS Ignore that get past that to how to make use how to make work How to you know how to information not how to get a license piss on that garbage. We don't care about that That's something don't worry about it. It's too late in the game plus. We don't need to give the enemy any more information. They've already got So let's not give them another contract that they can try to manipulate in some way or use for a database. Now, next real quick, let's see, we were talking, go ahead, call or jump in there. Yeah, this is Texas Mike. I have a friend, he had his thing, he bought some bullets, he had a, let's say he had a little, little a honeypot that he found and he kept buying 30 out of 6 black tip armor piercing. And you know he bought them off and on at the gun show and he ended up with about like 300 of them. And they weren't cheap either. They were re-boxed and he put you know I guess the dealer got them from somewhere else and repacked them and they were like $30 I think a box at $20. and I don't know if that's overdoing it for an armor piercing black tip on 30 out of 6. But his intention was to go ahead and maybe get a... a M1 Garand from, you know, maybe like CMP or something and use it, use it, the AP that way. But, you know, but the way things are going, you know, it might not be that easy to get a CMP rifle and the object and Garand's at the gun show are ridiculously expensive. You know, would you be better off? trying to get the CMP, the rand or should you try to get a bolt at it? Right now I'd probably go the bolt action because first of all it's going to be valuable anyway for pretty much all the work you want to do any other kind but remember that with the AP if I hit it once with an AP round probably I'm not going to have to fire five more times or six more times am I? Not right away, okay? Now the first first Well, right now, and in fact I brought this up the other day, over at CDNN Investments, they've got, I believe it's the Remingtons and the nylon stock. Let me see if I can find them here again. Anyway, $250 for a bolt-action rifle with a scope, with a 3-9 power scope. If he wants to experiment, that's $250 plus whatever your other fees are. Very well spent. and you're gonna still, you got a weapon that can handle any OTS-6 that's possibly gonna be put in it. And the M2 AP is not gonna be overcharged. One of the things that you should remember is also about AP. AP is basically almost like national match. I would remind everybody that the guy who taught me most of what I know about the OTS-6, when I first ran into him, he was 70 years old and he was a World War II vet, okay? He had been a national match shooter for decades and what did he use for his national match competition shooting very quietly? M2AP I bought all of it from him that he had, footlockers full for like you know Like several thousand rounds for like $180 back in the day years ago I bought all his projectiles, bought all his powder, bought his dies I still have his dies here, they're old herders dies But as he pointed out, you know, standard M2 out of the box is inherently more accurate across the board than its ball counterpart. Just something to think about. And part of it is the nature of the projectile itself. It had to be stable, and it still aught him and it aughs me. I do not know. I've never had the time to actually find out how the hell did they make those. You know what I mean? I want you to think about something, caller, just to bullet itself. Understand that that's that ultra-sharp AP. That's not a dull-point AP. That's a razor-point steel scribe AP penetrator in the middle of that copper jacket with lead. Okay? But I would I have never had the chance to watch how they made the bullet because how did you center the bullet in a malleable metal and accurately feed it repeatedly and They didn't do one or two hundred of them. I mean they made billions of those things They did billions of ball rounds. They did billions not millions billions of M2AP. That's why we're still buying it today And what's amazing is the accuracy and consistency from the first one made to the last one made is absolute. I question that we could actually build that round right now in our American industry. And in fact, first I'd be told that, well, we can't do it. And if we can do it, it would cost so much it's prohibitive. Well, what's fascinating is they did this with World War II hand mechanical production. It's the consistency of the steel core. Right, the steel core, but not only steel core. Remember, this is, see, there's a couple tricks I could see that would work with regard to boring the bullet from the base, because it is a spitzer, it's a straight spitzer. It's not a Sierra boat tail. But the problem is, it's a fire point. It is an absolute, you can take, I don't know if any of you guys have had an M2AP that's been spent. If you have an M2AP penetrator guys, I know machinists used to pick carry three of them in their left pocket and you know what they used them for? Steel punch. Yeah. And you know what? They never had to get rid of them, which makes me go, what in the hell did they make them out of? Seriously, I mean, I when I first heard that I had a guy work with he was a tradesman and and he was a World War two vet his friend was the carpenter I always tell you about on the air here that was at Normandy. He was the one was the carpenter the other guy was a plumber. The plumber was also one of our tool and die men. Okay, he was originally a tool and die man working with the aviation industry. And he used to, when he worked on setting up machines or building new components for the machinery, when he was working at the shop, he had that sitting right in the shallow pocket that he had sewn into his shirt, and he had three of them there and he'd pull it out, and it was just so quick and just so cool, he'd just, you know, he had to hold it between his fingers, tap it with a light ball peen, and scribe that perfect, perfect perforation every time. Now, that's something that was already shot and spent. He didn't go dig that out of a ball out of an AP round. He went and picked those up off the range, downrange, after it had been shot. And these things still performed like that. And they had a tip, a point on them, not a flat. There's different philosophies about the penetrators. So, to be quite honest, again, in a bolt-action gun, this is why I qualify with this big long comment. Uh, in an out-six bolt-action gun, it's like shooting match ammunition, but with a real, real, real happy, happy thought at the end, if somebody's got any steel plate on. Now, I would point out this. All the steel plates that are out there right now, anybody notice this Tex-Mex? You might have seen or read some of this. When they start talking about steel plates, selling you a steel plate, they say, and it's tested against M2AP 30 out-six rounds. Now, That's kind of funny because there's no government agency using a 30-06 AP. The only people now that have 30-06 M2AP are TexMax, Mark, and all you guys in the militia or the shooting circles that are private owners of American Arms. Nobody else is using that round, guys. So the perceived enemy and threat that they're building the steel plate for is the American people. Mark, I've shot that stuff to the 3 quarter inch steel plate. Yeah. And it just, it's a hole in and a hole out. I've got a 1 inch piece. It's balls, but it goes right through it. Well, I've got a 1 inch piece. It goes right through it. Well, I've got a 1 inch balls, but it goes right through it. Right. Well, I've got a 1 inch steel plate that what happens at 1 inch, it was at about 420 yards. Uh, it hit and it literally, it's, it's stalled, it created a borehole. It looks like a still picture of a rock hitting water, a stone hitting water. The outer peripheral edge is bored away from the penetrator. The jacket sloths back out, recoils back out of the hole. and the penetrator is stuck because it didn't quite penetrate through that one inch. It penetrated, but it didn't bore through all the way. So the penetrator is right in the middle of this hole that is about, oh, I think what? I measured it, I think it's 5'8 of an inch, okay? And at the 5'8 out around the corner, all the way around it, there is this little splash of bird metal that looks like water spilling away from a hole where the pebble hit the water in a just-in-frozen image. and that's one inch steel plate at 420 yards. So 300 yards is optimal by the way, I have to keep repeating that. Remember, M2AP's optimal engagement range for armor penetration is 300 yards. Now that's something that they planned on because again, what are you shooting at? A tank. Do you want to be at point blank range with a tank? Well if you do shoot with an out six point blank range, you will do some damage to something. But the idea was you'd like to be farther away. I don't want to be so close. I hope I can run before it gets me, right? That kind of thing. And so basically, again, the logic was 300 yards, it still penetrates beyond 300 yards. It certainly will perform below, but once it takes the bullet set in flight and it's at the proper spin and rotation, its optimal maximum penetration capability is approximately 300 yards. So just that's a heads up now the bolt gun again going over to CDNN. I want to do this before we're going any farther They may still have them on sale. They might not CDNNsports.com and I believe they're Remingtons. Yeah, they're there 249. Yeah, okay. You can't beat that for a bolt action 30-06 I believe it's a 22 inch barrel. That's fine. I pretty know 24. No, I think one of the 24. That's right. I recall But they have two out sixes there. And I'd go the longer barrel. I'd go the 24. If they had it still, if not, go the 22. You're fine. But the advantage of that gun is that if you're going to spend that kind of money on a projectile, it'd be kind of nice to put it right on the target every time. And with that bolt-action scope system with the person who's had a little time behind the iron there and behind that optic, You should have no problem engaging three to five hundred yards and keeping it inside that X-ring. And in this case, like I said, I wouldn't so much aim for the chest. I'd be aiming for the crotch anyway. If I ride up and I do kind of mess up a little bit because of miscalculation, remember that of the errors I can make, I can pull left, pull right, or even drop down a little bit. If I do that, I'll take his knee cap or his thigh, hopefully. But if I do ride up, I ride up into the plate area and that M2AP is going to get that. Hey Mark, I just noticed they've got the Walser Creed back. It's $20 more, it's $269, $269 meds. Limit three. Don't buy more than three at a time. The Creed is still there, brand new in the box, so you can still pick those up. No, they went out for a while. You can pick up a handgun for what, $270 then? $260, $270. And a bolt-action Remington for $250. So not a bad combination right there. Of course, somebody would be looking for an AR. I know that. But the ARs are all over the place. And so you just got to pick your flavor choice. I'll tell you what, Atlantic Firearms still, because it is Weapons Wednesday, Atlantic Firearms still has the PTR-91. It's called the GIR. It's got the green furniture. It's the narrow stock. I still cannot find a wide floor stock to replace on that weapon. But it's got the heavy match barrel. It's got the tab magazine released instead of the side button at the, oh, the other ones, the one with the C in it. What the heck is it? The ones made in Spain. They had the little push button in the side by the magazine. It was really difficult. You had to have really long fingers and it was awkward because you almost had to take your hand off the grip to get the magazine to come out. But this has got the tab right behind the magazine so you just squeeze that tab and grab the mag at the same time, pull it down and then slap your good one in. And it's got the well-bid site rail on the top for your, the Picatinny rail. So I mean, you know, FlashHider and it's a fine piece of weaponry, $9.75. You know, look at the price for an HK. you're talking three or four thousand dollars if you can find one. Right. And the PTRs are American made across the board. It was done originally, they brought in the Pakistani, the island, Spain, come on Mark. Yes, Spanish, I like Portuguese. The one with the sea. It's the Portuguese, it was sliced Portuguese. uh... tooling bought it a while is what break for about there's only two big items like that medicare scarred portuguese portugal that are really notable in the region uh... one is an ad bottom europe the other one's uh... west half of africa uh... anyway the uh... interesting thing is that they literally sold the tooling to this guy you brought it to the u.s. uh... everything you need is made here well you start running with some of whatever surplus parts he had but he very quickly has pretty well adopted all-American production, which didn't take long because the interest was great. And they are still one of the best semi-auto rifles for the price right now that's available because M1As are nice too, but M1As are up and down availability-wise, and even PTRs are right now. People are grabbing the main battle rifles. Again, because of that, I'm going to go back real quick to this. Remington 7.30, 0.06, black synthetic stock. 9x40 power scope, cdnnsports.com $250 for that price you can afford to experiment and for that price if you decided you didn't like this gun this would be a great gun to put in another location where you know you'd have a really decent shooter right from the get-go but $250 is pretty stinkin' reasonable for a long-range game and people getter. And the way things are going, like I've said, in the earliest part of this, guys, we need some automatic rifles, and we'll take the enemy's automatic weapons. Don't worry about trying to fabricate some of yourself. Take it from your enemy's corpses. You don't need that much automatic fire. What's far more devastating is all of you Bambi hunters out there, everyone who's got a bolt gun, a rifle going off once, and a target going down, and then no more fire. until you choose to make the next shot times a hundred men. Totally different world. Two totally different worlds facing off against each other. The problem is by the very nature of what I have, I've got to hit you. And for that reason, I will. So I'm going to pick how and what I do to take you down. These rifles, the 9 power scope is a mid-grade scope. Everybody goes, no, you need a 12 power. No, you don't. Actually, the 3-9 for most of your utility work is good enough. You're only going to have so much time to put the bullet on target in a battlefield exchange. And when you're hunting Bambi, or if you do have extreme shots, yes, greater or bigger optics are nicer and are obviously more useful. But for a lot of the combat work you're going to do, This particular configuration is pretty much optimal. Now it would be argued by Cooper years ago, and which is why he came up with his own design, the scout rifle, to go with an even less powered, powerful scope with a longer eye relief. And the only thing that was different is that unlike the 770, which is a full stroke 30-06 and a full stroke main action, the 600 Remington was the gun that he chose actually with the Mohawk and it was a short stroke but before he made it to the scout rifle that rifle was already very popular in the mid and shorter calibers or varmint calibers that were very very hot but at the shorter stroke action you save about an inch and a quarter I think maybe almost an inch and three quarters I'd have to double check the measurement but the action is just that much shorter making it a little faster which every second counts, every nanosecond counts, but the action is very smooth, very buttery, and once it's on target and in place, it's a very lethal combination. So this is one of those solutions where it's cheap, it's affordable. If you don't have a bolt-action rifle in your inventory, you need one. I was looking today for older pre-1898 things that might be laying around, a Mr. Dolby rifle. There's not much of anything out there. What little is, is now in the crazy range. I saw a Argentine and a Spanish Mauser, the ones we used to buy for $19.95. They're going for $700 to $800 now for a pre-1898 rifle. You could buy for $20 even into the early 80s. But because it is a pre-98, the only ones that are even stranger are the tie mousers. The tie mousers were always a drug on the market. They were about nine to twenty dollars apiece. Brand new, unissued, but there was no ammunition and eight millimeter tie anywhere. Anywhere. None. Zero. Nada. And it didn't match up with anything. So the guns sold cheap because mostly they were really neat wall hangers. However, after a while people started torquing the barrels off. and came up with some really nice border packages with a rebarrel. Those guns are ridiculous priced in their original configuration. I would point out pretty much 99% of them were unissued, never used. It was one of those contract guns that ended up in the arsenal and by the time they got it in the arsenal, apparently they went right over to the Garand's or something else that was in somebody's inventory and the Thai Mausers just sat there looking really pretty and maintained by slaves. You know, they kept them clean, they kept them rust free, but they didn't do anything with them. Okay? They were always in reserve, let's put it that way. So... And Mark, that's Remington? Remington is a 22-inch barrel, and it says it comes with the scope mounted and bore sighted. Yeah. And in fact, it was... That's taking 10, 10 or 15 rounds out of your, well, maybe 10. It's taking 10 rounds out of your inventory right there, you don't have to use just to get it. You know, you're already in the ballpark. Yeah, you might still have to, as sight adjust accordingly, depending on your perception, how it should be, you know, visually impacting. I mean, but your way you're aligning, if it's bore sighted, it should be on, but we will find, again, you'll find out real quick with the first five rounds for test. Another thing about this, somebody's asking, well, what about out six ammo right now? Well, there's a bunch of steel case ammo. If you just want to use balls, you're not using the M2AP that Tex-Maxx was talking about, and I would hold back on that. You don't need to test it, you just need to make sure you know where the things hitting and then again, you might do one or two spot checks, but I would do those at intermediate to maximum range for whatever your engagement range is that you expect to use. And you should be printing first bullet down range with the AP because it should match the performance of the standard ball round. That was the one thing about all OTSIX military loads. they have to have the same point of impact at all ranges. There's no variation. If you have an AP or a tracer or an incendiary or a ball, when they're going down range, their formulas for load are such that they will impact based upon the site rules and formula for the rifle. Whatever's on top of that rifle, all those rounds will impact the same way, same point of impact at each range for basic engagement. Always remember that. Now... That means if you got ball, you got the AP, and you got the tracer, and you got the incendiary all on target. The big thing is... One more. Go ahead. One more. That AP, it scares his tens teeth last year. You could occasionally find it for a dollar around machine pulled, which means they had the striated machine marks in the jacket. Or if you were really, really lucky, you could get $2 a bullet. for hand pulled. But they've basically, you found it at a gun show, you got the right place and that may be the only place you're going to be able to find it. You may find loads, but when I was pricing it just to see if it was worthwhile to buy the load and unload it, they wanted $3 around for the loads, $3.50 around for the loads. Right and again, well if there is any AP there is some tracer over at UN ammo and always keep an eye because you know we've said this many times He's got some connections. Nobody else has in the industry at least not in the Southwest Take the time and spot-check UN ammo because he does have some odd six and inventory right now I just don't know how much of what you take that Remington 770 30 out six you pick up some of the steel case you pick up as much of the brass as you can brass case ammo loaded You can also go to aimsurplus.com. They've got preview partisan in stock and that's brand new factory ammo and it is tack driving ammo. Though they build beautiful rounds. They have three different loads, or at least last time we checked, they may be out of one or the other it happens. But they have three different loads including a 180 grain projectile for that ops 6. Now that is a commercial load so your point of impact will be different because it's not trying to match the military spec of a single standard. It is designed as a big thud puppy to go down range and smack a deer sideways ridge to ridge. The 180 grain is wonderful. 200 grain is another great round but I don't think they're making it. I don't think Preview makes one but they might. I just haven't seen it. But if you go to aimsurplus.com, www. dot aim surplus dot com and then go to their uh... ammo section they do have guns and all kinds of other stuff too we've mentioned that many times that we did they don't advertise with us they're not an advertiser okay but uh... they do have cool stuff and that's why we mentioned these guys like all the rest and in ammunition let's see what they have left here in the ops six uh... let's see what they do have here we go i can actually do a good sort maybe Preview Partisan, 150 grain, FMJ, $13.95 a box. 30-0.6, 180 grain, soft point, $14.25. That is a very reasonable price for big bore ammunition. 30-0.6, SPS, 165 grain, $14.50 a box. Preview Partisan, 30-0.6, 150 grain, soft point. 13.95. So that's it. Under $14.50 a box basically is what you're looking at for brand new factory boxer prime non-corrosive. Now you can get surplus. And they also have PPU, preview partisan, 500 round cans, 150 grain ball for $340 a can. That's the same cans that they did have. over at UNAML.com and UNAML may still have it, okay? So there's one solution on OTSIX. It's not the only one, but AIM is pretty good and PPU, preview partisan is excellent ammunition. They've always been very high in standard. They were the render revolution armaments, elements to go to back during the Cold War, Yugoslavia, and they still are top of the list today for all of the odd calibers that you can't find anywhere else. So, just a heads up there. Another thing, cleaning kits. 30 caliber cleaning kits, there's a bunch of Euro and military stuff that has just come out, including a bunch of American machine gun and rifle cleaning support items. One of them that they have, I believe it is over at apexgunparts.com, still in stock, and they also got some of them over at gun parts court now gun parts corporate offline can't ordering from a swipe not been mentioning them they're offline until whatever happens with the communist regime if they ever do open everything up i think they're lying about most of that will be but i don't trust them uh... right now it looks like apex might be the place to go but they have the uh... military t-bar the cast t-bar type you know it's like uh... like a push dagger handle 10 in a bundle and I think they're about $3-$4 apiece for those cleaning rods and they are actually some of the phenomenal cleaning rods. They're not going to do your 223 any good but if you have any 30 caliber or any big bore, 8 millimeter, whatever, these cleaning rods will be perfect for any of the other accoutrements that you need to screw to them to get the job done. Just something to think about, they are still in the military boxes, they are World War II production, probably we sent them to the Israelis and Apex bought them back from the Israelis, because that's where a lot of this stuff is piled up, and you know how the OiBoys do it, they steal it from us and then sell it back to us. They get it for free, then we get screwed. But Apex also has a bunch of other stuff that you need to be looking at, provided they're still functioning, and they were until a few days ago, we'll see what happens, looks like they're... The only thing they've got is a little bit of delay on order, on orders they fill, but not much. Okay, so that's a good thing. So apparently they're still keeping up. And again, that is apexgunparts.com. Their phone number is 719-481-2050. That's 719-481-2050, apexgunparts.com. go through and look to see what they have in the way of accoutrements and materials, a bunch of stuff that got piled up. And every once in a while there's another odds and ends item that shows up in the inventory that definitely is a must have or useful item for our purposes, okay? Especially in terms of the odds and ends stuff that most people don't think about. But right now there's a bunch of browning, MG stuff that has come in. uh... in terms of uh... uh... kit equipment you're almost gonna get you're gonna have to go through the page to numerous to mention on the air here but you never know what you're going to run into so they're definitely worth all perusing and then i'll pick out what it is it makes sense for you to run with it okay uh... some stuff weird i mean there's some things it's like actually don't need you know i don't think that very often but there are just something that's like No, I don't think so. But the elder, you never know. You never know what you're going to run into. So check them out, see what it is that might be useful, and whatever it is that's there, run with that puppy. Yeah, they got the RPG cleaning kits there, Mark. Yeah, and they actually, I think they do actually, but they're in... They do, they've got two different ones. Yeah, and again for what they are, now those are big bore, that's for doing the main tube, which by the way, remember you got an explosive charge, leaves a lot of crud and residue. They don't show you the icky part about maintaining reusable weapons. That junk builds up, okay, so we'll just have to think about. In fact, I think it'd be over in gun tools. Let's see what they say there. I haven't been able to find it so far. I was looking to see if the box of rods were still, because it jumped out at me, but I didn't mention it on the air. Well, we have a... In fact, let's do it this way. How about if I just do a search for cleaning rods? Let's see what happens. Cleaning rods. I'll put a nest on the end. Well, there we go. Go ahead, caller. Jump in there. Yeah, the other caller was saying that, like you said, the ammo was... thirty dollars for twenty rounds. Is that a good price or a bad price? Was he saying that fully loaded thirty odd six AP was going for three dollars a round? Well about three to four dollars, it shouldn't be eight. I shouldn't say that it shouldn't be, but it shouldn't be eight. In reality about two to three dollars has been mid grade right now for a price on the AP. It used to be a dime a dime a shell, but that's been decades ago. That's for a loaded projectile. Forgive me, a projectile in a loaded case, right? Yeah. Full case. The other caller was talking about that. Okay, very good. If you're running into it for about that price, I guess you'd have to spot check around. I have not seen anybody else with any answer.