April 5, 2019
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2h 1m
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Mark Koernke and Joe McNeil discussed GPS system vulnerabilities ahead of a potential April 6, 2019 rollover event affecting navigation and financial systems, drawing parallels to Y2K concerns. The show covered over-reliance on electronic navigation versus traditional map reading and land navigation skills, featured a caller discussing the Oklahoma City bombing and alleged government involvement, and included an extended technical discussion with a machinist about rifle barrel manufacturing, accuracy standards, and various rifle platforms including AR-15, M1A, SCAR-17, and AR-10 systems.
- gps rollover
- y2k
- navigation systems
- oklahoma city bombing
- atf
- mossad
- camp gruber
- timothy mcveigh
- rifle barrels
- ar-15
- m1a
- scar-17
- ar-10
- preparedness
- land navigation
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I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flip lock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, we fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free. and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free, the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money is spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken this number and you've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit so their children, your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for what you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right. You pray to God, keep the torch of freedom bright as I awoke he'd vanished in the midst of whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watching tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Dill the land of the free isn't gentlemen. This is the Intelligence report. I'm our party. I'm Joe McNeil one day closer to the for all of our brothers and sisters behind the lines in occupied territories, Southwest, gentlemen, you were listening to us. We're at Tech Network in the morning, www.themicro. It is a thin ceiling above us, you know, it's locked to the east. The sun has just passed over this above us. Right, with a little blue to the east, it's to the south. A rumbly, flaggy kind of thing over top. It's like a bedcheap, though. Yeah. I'm not trying to hold in on it. It doesn't want to go here. We had kind of a demi-snow yesterday. It didn't stick. So why didn't it? Then it kind of looked like it wanted to rain a little bit and then it stopped that and then it said, I give up. Oh, just looking bored of the day for the end of the day. But in some juice yesterday and it was running outside was brimming right. So I'm really happy with the technology for 98 cents and a few dollars here and a few dollars there. You need to invest in those little, those little solar lights. They will do so much for you with a little bit of modification more on that in a minute. Anyway, what's liking your neck of the woods? What's the day today? And what's jumping off the wall up there on the rock? Looking down on the scorch on green once again and the big valley down the bottom of the ground. Yes, with the rising river 45 degrees here this morning. A little bit of rainage high today, 65 on this fifth day of April. 2019. Right now we should be concerning ourselves with the possible weekend Y2K for GPS systems. Experts warned that the grid financial and transportation is at risk because of GPS and other electronic systems. And they're telling you that the best case scenario is nothing happens as in Y2K or not so great case if you have a Jarman, Jarman, I happen to have one of those by the way or a Tom Tom on which you rely for never getting you could run into trouble. You might be going to totally do if you go with a Tom Tom or number three worst case Some experts warned, and we know all about the experts, that the power grid, transportation, and the financial system would be affected. Well, I really don't want to be in a deal of my favorite. We bought one of our friends who's delivering, you know, with a small truck. Tom Toms are popular where they've been popular with the truck drivers for a long time. Well, you know, oddly enough, I've been aware of the Garmin, but I was not aware of the Tom Tom. Well, my favorite on the Tom Tom, I don't know how yours is, but when you listen to it, unfortunately, I don't know who it was that was translate, it was reading and translating the names of our city. We're driving along and I'm listening to the thing as it says 23. Tootle-wee-doo! having to think for a minute, totally do that. I don't know. What is making the pronunciation? It makes you wonder, is it some person in another country? Probably. Intelligence, which really makes you wonder. Because, I mean, granted, it's kind of like an advantage of how, or example, forgive me, of how push language, you know, we have so many different other languages that are incorporated that different, you know, compronunciations are so varied, right? Let's all go to Toodaloo. Toodaloo. And coming north, it was the same way, and I just, you had to chuckle no matter what, and he goes, yep, and Larry, of course, used to say, he delivers, you know, don't You know, well, they didn't even give us any time to prepare this time around man. I mean warning, but yeah because when you remember what was the thing with like even when the Tom Tom is you remember it has to count on the idea that the company is going to upgrade its field information and its Bridges are put in right, you know like when he was using that where you know the guy the truck, you know Told him make a right turn fact it happened to us twice. We're headed to Tennessee for you know proceed 60-something or whatever. Well, problem, they put an overpass in. Right, was now two stories off of the, you know, two stories off the ground, it's like, oh, I don't think we're doing that one, are we? You know, again, this is the only problem, is like I said, people have taken the Tom Tom to their doom. Remember the couple that were driving out there where you are, and they went down what was a seasonal road? Remember when they got stuck, and they burned the tires in the car, and they saw on television, except that maybe burning a tree which probably would have drawn more attention. You know, rather than freezing this. So finally the father went out and he headed out to walk to get help and then turned around and came back and only made it halfway and he died. There was weird stuff going on with this because the family apparently went out and hired and had a helicopter out there searching and knew exactly where to look for them. That's the part people forget. There was something else going on there. Somebody knowing more about the technology than you and I did because they were backtracking the technology. You know, the Tom Tom. There's a lot more that was going on. They didn't want to tell you about that, but they had hired, they already had an idea where they were, hired a helicopter, they had the helicopter in the air, and they had the helicopter down range, and he just stayed with the car. They found the rest of the family, he'd have been alive with them. But how did they do that, guys? Asking people, how did they know where to fly? How did they know where to go? What technology were they using to Tom Tom? Well, you have to realize that you know while you're driving down the road you are being tracked That's why when you hit the next button, okay, here's your answer based on where you are GPS targeting. Oh, did I say that? Well, you have the same thing in your in your iPhone or yep It's and under the dash of your car. They just only know about those you are carrying your tracking device voluntarily And you will buy tracking devices voluntarily. And then maybe, well, they shouldn't be able to do that. But if you've found yourself out in Mother Nature somewhere, how grateful you will be that your tracking device is functioning well. So you have to make up your mind what you want. If you want your freedom or don't want the ability to go. In both cases, leave your cell phone, your GPS, or whatever you got there, just leave it at home. But then you might have one in your new car. Yes, this is serial number such and such. It has, what's the name of that system? OnStar. OnStar. OnStar was the one they told you about and charged you for and here's what's QFP OnStar is, was already on board the vehicle, they just didn't tell you. Yeah. Yeah. And that's the GM product line version. So each one had a variation of the same company and the same one that built it, but a different name for each one of the companies. Yeah. Well, if you want to run and get away and not be able to be tracked, there you go, man, you're a square box heavy. Yeah, exactly. Look under the hood. See how simple it is? You see any extra electronics? Any junk under the dash even? No. Okay, so here we are in another Y2K scenario. We're doing it. Yeah. You know, I might advise everybody that the most truck stops that I've ever been to have a Ron McNally there that you can pick up and, you know, do the manual thing. You know what's funny about that? I usually, this is interesting, I usually pick up the tail ends, you know, every, you know, it is the end of the year, the next one's getting printed, right? Watching the truck stop. The markdown, usually I get them for $5 a piece at the most and I'll buy three or four of them. I have a couple for each vehicle. $16 is considered the sale price. A lot more than that over the counter depending on where you go. Funny, they've gone reverse, they've gone in the other direction price-wise rather than you think, well, they can't be as popular because like you said, the land navigation systems are charging a lot more for the mapping. the map manuals when they did it. Because nobody's buying them. Well, I think they're moving. I mean, I've, you know, like, I've been reported by, it's like we're saying here on the air. How many people really actually, literally know how to navigate a map? Right, read. Well, you know, not just follow the route or all this, you know, but if you're looking for something that obviously isn't like Atlanta, Georgia, right here, big on your page, but you're looking for Tweedleedoo, Idaho. Yeah, there's another Tweedleedoo. Then you know you're going to have to, it might be listed but you have to be able to read that map to understand where you, what even, what area that you're going to be looking at. So you know a lot of people really don't know, I'm sure with all my kids how to read a map. You know, I think that's pretty important. It's like being able to use a compass at some point. We did have an incident one time where my Kids are out wandering around and I told them I said, you know if you ever lose track, you know You're lost. You don't know where you go with which way you're going. Whatever I said, I want you to look around I said we all know that the railroad tracks take us all the way to Kamiya and we know you know I explained all the things that you know So here's what you're going to be looking for in order to reorient yourself So one day three of them went walking and I don't know they got turned around upside down or whatever And what blew me away was I get a call from the feed store in Kamiay with three kids were just worn out from walking down the tracks. I figured they walked about seven miles into town, walked across the other railroad bridge, all that stuff, and got to the feed store and borrowed a phone to say, hey, Dad, can you come and get us? We got lost. So... Those little preparation things, who knows where they would have went if I hadn't explained to them that you look for things that you know where they are, where they go, and then this sort of thing. But yeah, as far as map reading, I don't think a lot of people really understand how to do that. And with the GPS, and your tracking device, there again, you're relying on All intelligence man, it's it's uh, well that what was the article in the paper here boys the last year the year before some truck driver, I don't know drove into a City or County Park or something. He's trying to go across a bicycle bridge with a semi. Remember that mark I mean really somewhere along the line as it's telling you turn left here turn left here. The brain should be keeping... You have to have some sort of engagement going on there with your brain other than just following instructions. I mean really that GPS can't see where it was. Well, weren't your ocular collectors working? Your eyeballs? Think about it. Just like you said weren't you, your ocular collectors should have been registering the fact that not appropriate. That first paid bicycle pass should have been an indicator right there. Let's see, I'm eight feet wide and nothing only looks like it's about five. Well I can admit that we on our road here, see one thing that's interesting you can't get to us from there, we have a viaduct down the road here, one mile, one mile and one eighth. The Chicago back in the 1800s and it was done by Judge extra guy who built the town. He did the tunnel under the tracks because a woman got run over by a train. How the hell you could do that in the steam age with all the noise they made. But got run over by a train in a carriage, spent the money because he was a wealthy person and he built this tunnel. Well the tunnel really is big enough for two car, two carriages to go side by side, although typically one would. And he was a thinking man so it was designed to Everything he built in town, even the roads are designed so that a 6 or 18 wagon, a semi truck for the day, could turn around. The bridge was built the same way, but it's a modern age. And like you said, you've got com-towns and whatever, and every once in a while there'll be a trucker who goes by here. You know, we're not on a primary road or anything, guys. He'll be winging by. Man, he's making time. 55 miles an hour on a 45 mile an hour stretch, and he's going towards town and it's like, well, I'm going to hear the brakes or maybe the jake brakes. in a minute. I know semi truck on the road is especially with the new boxes and even the key even the cab of the truck is not going to make it under that bridge. You will make it if he's got enough speed part of the way through as it peels it back like a sardine can. But every once in a while there you know enough I noticed it's been fewer because I'm out and about you know outside most paying attention and semi trucks make a certain noise you kind of pick you know you kind of notice them coming you know what I mean especially around the country a little bit. Anyway, I've noticed a lot fewer, so I think they finally have entered the land navigation information that yes, this is a shorter distance, but you can't get from here. You will not get through. The obstacle's gonna stop you. It will require a bridge for you to get on the other side of that canyon. Don't do that. Don't do that. Hey, this is a three-press scream. You know, oddly enough, I just, we had a guy driving for UPS here for years, man. He just retired last year and I was talking to him on the phone. He was telling me a little story about how they put these new systems in those UPS trucks. And when he got in that afternoon, they asked him, how come you went over here? And all it was was, you know, 10 feet over here. He says, well, there's a canyon between me and there. So I had no choice. But check this out, here's our concerns. The most likely issue that your car's navigation system will be wonky with inaccurate times of arrival and incorrect times and dates. I ignore most of those. Have you ever heard this saying man-made seconds, minutes, hours, days, months and years, running out of time, man-pears? You know, why would, uh, sir, it might be some sort of inconvenience, but I don't think it's a panic application where, uh, oh no! Oh no! I left home yesterday, but I'm still out here. Have I lost track of time? The machine didn't tell me the truth. Yeah, it's lying to me. It's false, not my responsibility. It's false. It's like, that's where the machines are, you know, running you around where you should be. You constantly have to have, especially with electronics, we learned this a long time ago, the military did, with everything that they were doing. When they had, I don't care what MOS you had, they realized they were having a problem. It was researched out of the Vietnam War. And they started to try to correct it. But before you could go into certain MOSs, mine was the same way a lot of them were, you had to take a land navigation and mapping course. And if you couldn't pass that, you weren't going to get the job. And there was a reason because you had to know the basics. You had to be able to, even if you were going to go into electronic navigation, which is basically where GPS came from and compass first. Yeah. Like you said, to be able to read a map. Why? Well, in the battlefield, what was that crashing noise? You just heard atmosphere, didn't it? But we don't have it anymore. And now all of a sudden, all the toys, the electronic toys are down. Does it work? How do you continue to function? Okay, well let's continue here. Financial companies who use GPS to record trades could have issues with the times, dates, and locations. And why would that be an issue? Except this is kind of like what, they're counting to the minute to know when it hits so they can come up with some fake number in trading. I mean, when you think about it, unless you're talking micro-packages of, you know, Zikanium D, it's on the planet, I mean even there why would you need to know to the instant about the delivery of something? I mean it's like pick up the phone see him from our how about computers are really amazing I don't need to know where I mean Fred gave me a call He's the shipper already taking care of it the other end physically the guy who physically runs it would be the one doing bank man This kind of rolls back to your your your false Let me go a little further here. There were lazy comps to mine, sir. Well, it's the ports that use GPS location to report the loading of ships could have inaccurate information. Remember, there was that cyber attack and all the ships had no idea where to go. Okay, so this is where mankind is going. You know, listening to the thread, we're bringing it to you here on the air. If you rely on false intelligence, and you have no other idea, you don't understand the manual way. You don't know how to read around McNally. And you've been living with your GPS, and all of a sudden one day it doesn't function anymore, and the dates and the times are off. Okay, so now what do you do? Just stop the car, the boat, the truck, the airplane? You know, you're relying on that false intelligence. It's the same thing as you relying on your computer for every answer that you ever had. Oh, just Google it. It'll be right there. Or what's your best friend's phone number? You know, I don't know. I have to have my phone, but the battery's dead. This is where the false intelligence is wandering mankind out into Libya. It's bad enough where you have happenstance and gravity sucks, but think about a couple things here. Remember the self-driving car over the woman out west? I've mentioned it many times. First of all, the woman was out looking for an insurance. Unfortunately, she got it dead yet, because if you watch the video, Everybody goes, well, if we have the self-driving cars, it's okay, because you can take over. Really? What was the guy doing before he hit the woman? Because he had the self-driving car, he's on the cell phone, diddle screwing with the diddle box. And he's looking up once in a while, and he's diddle boxing. He's looking up once in a while, and he's not driving anymore. He's diddle boxing. It's the epitome of the whole thing with texting suicide, okay? In this case, the car doesn't register the woman who's walking a bike across the street at night, which was a big target, by the way. Because the bike broadside, plus you've got a woman, and she's facing away intentionally, and there's only that car on the road. If you watch the video, pay attention to the environment. There's only that car on the front of that car. She was trying to get an insurance scam. She even figured the guy would break. what happened he wasn't paying attention why the car was self-driving and since he was doing that then he can be distracted by a million other things guess what woman got run right over and it's a surprise to the guy goes well my car ran over somebody okay another one this this 737 crash it just took place okay well let me point some of somebody's not discussed on this even the 737 these new ones are just like the 757 and the 767 Now you can go watch a thousand videos of the older ride your airplane. They're saying that don't think the pilot in that cockpit is gaining any experience. He's not. The new pilot is basically just there to go along for the ride. You're already in a electronic driving kind of car when you're in an airplane nowadays. And when everything is basically done, you do physically go through your checklist and the machine is already taking over. When you hit the, you know, you hit the ready to fly button, so to speak. the plane takes itself off, the plane flies itself in the air, the plane does pretty much the whole landing, and then the pilot can smile and sometimes says hi and whatever. If sometimes they do, the older ones do, the newer ones not so much. And everybody goes, well, we'll be safe because he's flying the plane. If they do have a radical incident, the pilot has no stick time. He has seat time. See, this is the difference. He has seat time. But he doesn't have hands-on feel, thick time. Nor does he have to adjust, compensate, or whatever. The machine is doing everything. So when people are shut, you know, this is what I think actually happened with that crash, where I read some of the stuff on it. I personally think that the computer took them to their death. The plane did that. The plane denied, wouldn't let them do what they needed to do. And it only takes seconds, so the AI, artificial intelligence, did that. Now on top of that, give them a bad reference point on the ground, or for air navigation. Oh, that's a nice formula, isn't it? The problems we've got were, in the past, it's kind of like even the simplified cars. You know the self-driving cars. The more you actually had to pay attention, or the less it was assisted, hell, even the idea of manual steering. Joe, you grew up driving manual steering cars, right? You've had a few, you had to. Yes, there was no power steering. There was no power steering, but you see the reason that it wasn't that bad is because it was geared down. No gearbox, a different steering box, power, non-power steering vehicle. Now they had add-ons, by the way, you remember that, you had an add-on, you didn't have power steering. They call that power steering by Armstrong. Yeah, Armstrong, I'm very, in fact, even when that power steering unit comes out, we still drive with Armstrong, don't we? Yeah. Only it really becomes Armstrong. We actually have a 72 in the fleet that has no power steering. Power steering by Armstrong. It's one less thing. Well, they're big trucks. Big trucks that didn't have power steering existed as well. Yeah. And you haven't done anything until you moved one of those around. There's progression that created ease, but with it comes to a degree step by step, a combination of lack of performance or ignoring action. And the more technology, the more the tied in artificial intelligence or other technologies that to a degree were helpful if it was used as an occasional piece of technology. But it's the man that is supposed to be, you know, again, well, we don't have to worry, there's a couple guys up there in the cockpit. In some cases, as they've already found out, and like I said, the 737 crash, second one were the cardboard, which with the computer technology, just the aircraft where it needed to be, could stay in the air. This is more a software combined with physical resistance as opposed to saying, well there was a failure of the plane and everybody always thinks, hey, failure of the plane, it was a mechanical, a rudder failed, or a screw pit. No, that's not what was going on. The machine itself, the artificial intelligence, overrode the intelligent human being. Now you got that with GPS the same way where they're doing a glitch thing right now. It's like we said, we're talking about it. We'll take you to the point, we'll take you to your crash. And by the way, yes turn now, that canyon is awfully deep you'll have plenty of time to think about it on the way down. 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But not realizing, you know, people take all these things as a convenience. out in there. You stand in a hotel in, what was the name of that town there in Ohio? That's Tootalie Doo. Tootalie Doo, Ohio. You're at the Empire Hotel or something and you're using your GPS to find your way to the second floor or something. Who knows? But it kind of gives you an idea how embedded all this electronic stuff is. Anyway, Mark, I have a caller for you. He actually called here yesterday, had some questions for you. And so I'm going to bring you up to the table here. I did not say this. I was not here. Go ahead. I'll jump in there, please. Hello. My name's Pat. I'm from Pennsylvania and I've been doing some online research. You know, I've given a shout out to you on Facebook and through social media. And what I'm doing is I'm learning how to be a broadcaster. I began to evolve recently with the Patriot community. And, you know, what the question I have is that this is like the 24th anniversary coming up. of the Oklahoma City bombing. And I've been doing some research and I've seen recently and then reliving what you were put through and what your family was put through, the fake news media. And there's a lot of information, misinformation, so much information about what happened in Oklahoma City that has hearted the cipher as a researcher to find out the truth. Because I think, from what I can tell, all I can say is that people talk about these deep state operations. It will always try again, yes. There's a lot of information out there. One of the questions, the main question I had asked you, and a lot of my research comes from, the Citizen Agency of Joint Intelligence. I'm sure you're familiar with it, and that's Bill Cooper. He put a lot of broadcasting on the Night of Timism, and he was executed. He did a broadcast where he put a lot of information out there just once before he died. One of the questions I have there is, do you believe that that investigation by Kaggie at that time is their validity with, are they in the right direction or in the right ballpark in your opinion? There was a lot of different, okay, there were different elements. First of all, at that time, the Patriot movement had, well, it always does. It has different elements because we're so big and we're so large around the country. Cooper had a different way of doing things which people don't even realize, okay, they don't know. They heard the broadcast end, but they didn't know how things were collected from behind the scenes. My attitude on how we do our broadcasting, how we've done our broadcasting for as long as we've been on the air, when we decided to become public, I worked behind the scenes in the Patriot effort and in the combat arms for the longest time, okay, building up the militia. Before most anybody knew what the militia, well they didn't know the militia existed to a degree, a lot of people did. All the different groups had a different perspective based upon the people that had collected intelligence, four of them have already been working in different asset areas. There's a reason that it seems like it'd be different because from their perspective and because of compartmentalization within the other side, the government side, everybody had different pieces which could take them in another direction if they didn't have the rest of the database. Remember that. We don't have everything. There are things that we could tweak and improve upon, which is why I always do what I've got to do by both my dad and which was reinforced, but I worked as an intel analyst, is that constantly going to have to change your files and your document base always be open-minded and be prepared to you know how you know change your perspective based upon the additional volume of real information that you have. The biggest problem is that the others just like you see with tools in the internet the enemy does send and has for years to try and disrupt the you know the opposition which is all of us out here the American people have injected into other people who may be trying to undermine the activity, which everybody always talks about. We'll use, you know, disinformation. There are a number of different titles that have been used over the last 40 years while I've been alive. Well, I've been alive 62 years. 60. Whoa. I'm behind the scale. Yeah. 62. Anyway, um, title, the individuals or the activities, uh, Cooper Cooper's information was based on his developed, uh, intelligence school. The people that he had, he had worked with, worked to, bring information to him, provide the database itself. Other were, I think, deceptions or leads that were designed to fog the battlefield at the time so the information wasn't collected and they could burn things down. Let me give you an example. You're familiar with Eloem City, right? It's a pickle-smoking mirrors project. With regard to the fact that it was the threat, it is nonsense, but of course it's preferred. If you're like, for instance, hyper-liberal, they were Nazis or something. Well, let's remind everybody of certain things here. The government was, oh, come on, CMB needs liberation army. Everybody turned out to be working for the government agency, the government, the government points, so one didn't know that the other one didn't know that the other one didn't know that they were all for an agenda created by the FBI or by powers of being, including the Mossad. The situation with Eloam City, remember you've got the one blonde female, the name doesn't roll off my head. you know, top of my inventory here. You might recall that she came forward with, you know, spewing all kinds of information, but the reason the government didn't want her to testify and why they attacked her during that period, they had to get the foreign agents, the Mossad agents, out of the country, including the ones that have been operating and passing through Eloem City and two other locations, one in Missouri, one in Arkansas. database, if you had the rest of that information, for instance, she actually went so far, I don't know if you recall, they tried not to, they always had her in long-sleeved shirts. She had a, you know, she was being secret squirrels like the Mata Hari of the 1990s. She, you know, a swastika tattoo with the big black field on it on her arm, they had to cover that up. I presume I would have that taken off after a while. Maybe, maybe not. She, it was not what said that was in line with the script. Some of the things that she said that points you towards the other activities going on that would lead you right back to the fact that you're a cross-mayer. Well, let me point something out. I argued one day, somebody showed me a picture of him before the Oklahoma City bombing. I said, well, he's Jewish. Who is he? And everybody in the room stopped for me and said, what? He's Jewish. Haven't you grown up? Well, I grew up with a whole bunch of Jewish people around me, okay? Big population group because we're out in Ann Arbor, Michigan. And I said, who is he? Oh, that's Frostmayer. You know, blah, blah, blah. No, he's, that's not who that is. I'm going to tell you right now that the Germans, and it turns out that in an after the Oklahoma city bombing case, which by the way, was brought up family, a husband and wife team, they were suing the government. It turns out that the federal, not federal government here, the German federal government was blank, pats to the Israelis. been making where they take actual human beings, actual personality files which is really critical, paste a Mossad picture on the passport and the ID portfolio and they ship them to the United States. So here you've got this guy who's operating with a Mossad. Whose job it is to stir the pot and create a track which will, if need be, deflect all the information or interest on who really did the bombing. And if you think about it, it's classic like in Hollywood or deflection, watch my right hand while the left hand is scurrying to scrub everything clean and make it disappear. To where the bombing, where this activity actually came from, or these distractions could drag you off down a side street and take you so far out of town, you won't have any clue about where you even are anymore. So back to the base information, before the Oklahoma Sea bombing, I've been speaking all over the country, I've been literally traveling since I'm the most traveled speaker in the country, okay? Everybody knows this. Because of this, I was able to physically make contact. Now somebody said somebody heard or somebody's sending a letter, that's good. Information sent by mail or by electronics. Sent with people in Tulsa, Oklahoma before the Oklahoma City bombing. Get about 20,000 people there before I do the speaking engagement. Somebody wants to talk to you. They're out in this conference center. It was shut down for the day. Got in there. There's a number of people. Now my security's with me, but there are a number of people there. There's logs outside of Oklahoma City. doing on the radio to our programming and probably other programming too because everybody was kind of on the same page. So people were hunting for, like I've said right now, we should be hunting for this site because there's another one coming up soon. Well anyway, what happened is they had taken seriously and these pilots for the Oklahoma Highway Patrol had been flying over a site, flying over Camp Gruber. Now Camp Gruber, they had the entire boat showed from the beginning first the establishment of the compound, but a complex nonetheless. the site, ran power to it, but all of a sudden all this mobile erector equipment shows up and they've got four little compounds inside the compound. And what it's obvious is that they are making bombs. It is a government, it's an ATF and Mossad government bomb. Half of the pictures, not half, but a portion, were the test points down the street, down the road, so they could, after they gave their classes on how to make bombs and blow things up, because that's what their mission was, create the bombs for the terrorist wave they were going to have. They would take an head out there an armored grandstand and they definitely things down the road for everybody in one of the ranges Now all this was covered was covered in such a way that mark didn't collect this Joe didn't collect this you didn't collect this official intelligence collection arm of the government oblique It could be seen that they were building big what number three in the line? Truck's number is not in the fleet after the bombing Timothy McVay supposedly drove with truck inventory and being rented a year after up you know repeatedly a year after. So if any truck was incorporated into that, into the bombing, it was a truck that was run by the government. The other one was a fiction created by a paper trail with, it could have been anybody that looks enough like Tim McVeigh wouldn't know the difference. I have several pictures actually I think if you look around you might search in the database, they may have pulled them all. I have a picture before, after the Oklahoma City bombing I had an image okay. Say, everybody know who this guy is? I put it up on the screen. There's several thousand people in front of me. And I'd ask everybody, who is it? What's Timothy McVey? Shoot the next slide up on a big Hollywood screen, right? And it's the actual picture. What was it? It's an ATF agent standing in the Waco. Swear to God, if I had that man walk in the room, I could have him do anything. Scratch his rear end, pick his nose. Say things, talk to you, do whatever, walk out of the room, and I could come back with a picture of Timothy McVeigh, and you'd swear to God that you saw Timothy McVeigh. The battle here is remembering deceptions upon deceptions upon deceptions. Now, if you had just a part of that database, well, yeah, you went to this writer truck park, you wrote in front of this writer, did he? The problem, again, you do this, this is one of the things about, you know, handling and operations. You have maskings or screens one over the other. But the physical fact, again, the reason, this whole thing with one element of the government going at it, you know, monitoring the others, it constantly happens by accident. These guys were actually up to speed. The Oklahoma Highway Patrol, a big chunk of it, were in the Patriot Movement. They were all paying attention. So when they saw something, they started to observe it. Now they did it in a way that they didn't have to do anything special and then fly over the site. Now I would point out that they were taking pictures and several times you can see down in this compound is a guy with a black t-shirt. Black t-shirt has a big A-T-F. These guys were using skate art spy technology, cameras available from the state. They would pull them out of the inventory and they were taking pictures from here. They would circle this compound. You want to know why it didn't draw any attention? I can say this because I'm pretty sure the regime has figured this out. The guys who were taking the pictures with a pilot were Keating. Keating didn't know. Because they were in Keating's plane, and I believe that Keating knew about the bombing, the back faggots never changed their operation, never did anything different. And because the air traffic line for takeoff and landing to the Oklahoma City Airport was in line with it, it wasn't unusual for the planes. But when the planes circled the site, because that's what they did, they had to circle it. It's a fixed wing twin engine aircraft they were using. They would fly the governor, but if they had placed a plane, or taking a plane to another location for maintenance, they would take more shots. It would not draw attention. It didn't change their flight cycle. The patrolmen recorded a site where the actual bombs were made both for internally and external use for fiction for the deception. These agencies knew that this bomb was going to go off. No, the ATF did it. The ATF and the Mossad did it. We caught enough. Remember that, and again, this is critical, and I have this led on file. One month before the Oklahoma City bombing, inside the Murrah Building, the ATF was doing a bunch of squirrel in the building for the demolition is what they were doing. One of the federal judges took his official register and released a letter and sent it to the ATF demanding that the ATF halt their eyes the Murrah Building. Now understand what that means. Think about it, you know how this is. You ever worked in an office complex? You may not know every company in a fine skyscraper, but you're all in the same building and after a while you kind of know people and you see things that are going on. Well, These people all knew what was going on, but what do you do? Okay, the judges can't order the ATA. You know, they don't run the ATF. They don't run the FBI. And I would point out that the ATF and FBI always go to the top of the building so they have all the rest of you peasants. Anybody ever pay attention to that, the way feds structure their buildings? All the secret police are up on top. All the peasants are down below. That way, if you're going to shoot your way through it, you've got to kill peasants to get the secret police. That's perfect. the thing is you're also passing everybody so when they were operating in the building they got caught in the stairwell drilling holes in the walls now what was the ATF doing drilling bore holes in the walls the week before the Oklahoma City bombing? I've heard that information. Well the thing is it came from, like I said we were live broadcasting at the time so we were covering a lot of the stuff as it was happening or as the people you know came forward to report it. When you read the piece where they said we have this mysterious a mysterious email that we sent out, remember? Different intelligence services. Saw email out from Wolverine production. It wasn't anything mysterious about it, it was a sit rep. The girls who was working in our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our, our Sergeant got up, the building, walked right over to a payphone. He'd been listening to our network for quite some time. Sergeant picked up the phone, he called us and he gave a field report. And she wrote the information down. We were the first people to put it out on the air because we had a first-hand report from a guy who had just been knocked on the ground from the table that he was sitting at. He picked himself up, he goes outside, the smoke is rolling down the street. He looks at the building and the disaster now in motion, he turned and the first thing he did was, like we've always said on the air, I told everybody this and I said everything before, get the information away from your area of operation. As you can, well this man took that seriously. He walked over to the phone, he called the office, it was said. What she wrote, she sent out as an email to everybody immediately. Because we knew something was coming. He repeated this, we're watching for it. The only mistake that we've made in the past, and you'll notice I'm pretty bold if you're listening to the programming here because, well, why does he say that? Well, here's simple. In the past, we've held back because pork's in the road. But I don't do that anymore because operations can fail if you shed light on them or if you force people to look and beam a flashlight out there in 100 different directions and start hunting them. If they're not working in a vacuum and all of a sudden they're being observed, they can't get away with it. In fact, they even have less time to even bury or burn the evidence. the city bombing example, we already knew that something on the edge and as the pilots pointed out there was a change in activity the ones we were observing, Camp Gruber, was a change in the type of activity and the intensity of it. At the time only a few days later we had the Oklahoma City bombing. We did get the information out. In fact if you do a search of Oklahoma City bombing over on Google you'll see a picture of that compound that has been posted. We made that happen. I did that. i received the information from them we just thought could we offer in the way of of data we can send out we shot it as emails physical copies of the pictures pay from common but we're gonna happen we did this with our circles and also it went through all people who are pro patriot though we'll uh... and even said fighting here Anyway, because of this, they didn't get away with it the way they planned because they weren't sure how much we actually knew. And that's another reason we didn't border everything out right away. The reason I'm still breathing and a lot of other people aren't, they didn't get away with all that they wanted, is because they realized we had a lot more. They had completely miscalculated the database that we had. And all the other people doing their work out there had a piece of the pie too. Cooper had a chunk of it. Uh, militia Montana had a chunk of it. We had a big chunk of it. And again, one of the reasons was advantage in motion. I was able to physically sit down with people and debrief them or they were briefing me on what it is they have in the way of the database. The sad part is we didn't know exactly where they were going to attack. Now we do after the fact, 2020 hindsight, a lot of the information pointed to the Oklahoma city, which is why we were warning people about it, which is why that sheriff's deputy, That sergeant went out and did what he did on the phone, fabricated and they knew about it. That man would be killed later outside of a... You know the story of him, right? You wouldn't let go of it? Eventually he supposedly committed suicide outside of a prison with a gun that he didn't... Oh, yeah. Okay, that's death. I know you're called death. Yes, you understand. That man is the one who made the call that gave us the ability to send that email to strike out and let everybody know something was going on in Oklahoma before they could try to cover it up. Okay, what we're going to do, we got to go. You want to stick around for a minute? All for you, think you could have terrified to head back like on Tuesday? I'm at work right now. Oh, go go go. No no no, I didn't mean to keep you that long if that was the case. Forgive me. Go ahead, take off. We're gonna go for now. God bless the Republic. Yes, can I call back and we'll continue this conversation please? Yes, you can sir, that's okay. Yes, thank you very much, thank you. And God bless the Republic. Death to the New World Order. We shall prevail ladies and gentlemen, the Empire is on the run. We're on the march night and day. Well, there may be a lot of ways they can throw out deception like right now it's like the border guys the bottom line is And now you can feel that squeaky clean sensation like none other with Vitamer toothpaste and mouthwash. Vitamer toothpaste and mouthwash is a unique natural formula not found in any other oral care products. 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In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrant flavored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this the land is a free, the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money is spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan number. You've traded in your name. 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His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right, we only watch and tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? The Land of the Strike on the 5th of April, 1975. The fields got heard around the world. This morning, the guy was going out and feeding the cows. Somebody else was letting the sheep out in the pasture. They're getting ready to till the fields. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the second hour of the morning intelligence report. Mark Hernke. I'm Joe McNeil. Three for all of our brothers and on and behind the lines in occupied territories, southwest, northeast, east, and we're listening to us. Second network in the morning and it is still looking, it's interesting. We're in the blue southeast overlay area, the gray high cloud cover is sitting right here and it's not moving, which means we're between a couple of fronts. And it's just kind of level right here. It's just dull. It's still bright. It's sunny. I'm gonna be happy. I know that our little solar panels are going nyum nyum nyum. Gobbling up all the energy that they can do on their job. They're working right. Anyway, Joe. It's nice here this morning, although we did hit 36 degrees last night. And yesterday evening we had little flecks of snow, but it didn't stick around. Winter just doesn't want to try and give up yet. The Upper Peninsula is still freezing, so that air comes down and visits us in the lowlands. We're the trolls. Below what's alive in your neck of the woods, what's the date today? And what is jumping off on the wall up there? At the top of the rock, you guys are in that fortress up there. Isn't it like a castle? You have like wings and you know, multiple chambers. Absolutely. Yeah, you know, you can stand on the edge of that parapet and look down from the fortress, you know, the village below. Well, we do have that tropical temperature, 45 degrees here today at 65. And it looks like we got a little bit of rain today, tomorrow, the day after that, the day after that. We got a little bit of rain coming. On this fifth day of April, 2019. Yeah. You know, in going back to what we were talking about earlier, you know, about the GPS thing, how many of you out there think that it's by chance that these things exist? that some mistake was made down there decades ago that we didn't anticipate the rollover of Y2K or something like that. Because of that, wouldn't you have already figured that maybe you should be paying attention? I mean, from the people making it point of view, doesn't that make sense, Joe? Well, yeah. It's called preparation, as in anything else. But, you know, I just wonder with the things that take place today, you know, we can go with the GPS or some sort of glitch or malfunctioning, politician, whatever. How many of you out there believe that this is all by chance a quirk? It just happened. We didn't know this was coming. How many of you believe that? Because Every time it's presented as it's being presented to us today, you know the possibilities here on the 8th of April You know if you're out driving your car with your what was it Tom Tom and your Garmin Be careful man, you might be hooking the left turn there unexpectedly or something But yeah, all these things were all designed and not you or I or Mark or anybody. Do we know anything about the design or how it's programmed or who put it together, whose idea it was, you know, blah, blah, blah, but it's a matter of, you know, the question would be how many of us think that this is by sheer accident, coincidence, what have you, or is this another manufacturer? Do you notice how everything always evolves either around guns, financial institutions, the power grid? Does any of that seem familiar? Oh, the power grid is going to, you know, what does GPS have to do with the power grid? I don't know. Or the financial system, you know, I don't know. But look at what they're throwing out there as the possibilities of interruption causing chaos. Do those subjects not ring a bell for you when I say the financial aspects of America or the power grid of America? This is just a little bit of a different approach. You know, this might affect that. But is it not really all the same? Is it the threat always the same? When people talk, you know, what is your biggest fear? Oh, that we lose the power. As if there was no life before electricity. Or is it there was no life before, you know, I don't know, the Federal Reserve System or something. As if there was no life before the GPS. There's no way that we can function. The problem is that everybody relies on those things so much that they totally ignored anything previous to that. And if they shut your electric off today, what would people do at that moment? Well, they would panic. With the idea of, well, there was a time in this history of man when there was no electricity, I guess we're going back to that. That would not be the calm thought that anybody, they would immediately panic and be searching for, as they did in Y2K, any generator that might be available. Now, I can understand a few things, needing a little bit of electricity to run that well pump that's, you know, 200 feet down in the ground, that kind of thing. But if you understood wells and this kind of thing, you can get that water out of there by hand. Yeah, so what are we really talking about we're talking about conveniences oh? And this convenience disappears, and it's no longer available and everybody's in chaos. Oh How we gonna die oh? Just a little ounce of common sense But moreover what I really want to point out here is the fact that they keep choosing The same threats, you know, the electric grid, the financial aspects of America. Personally, I wouldn't give a damn if my Garmin wasn't working or not. In all honesty, I'll tell you why I have one. Because it tells me how fast I'm going. And I need that. You know why I need that? Because the speedometer in my 84 Chevy pickup truck with the big tires and stuff on it. The speedometer is like eight miles off. So with my little $50 whipper bill thing sitting up there in the windshield, I know exactly how fast I'm going. And I don't have to continue to calculate my speed looking at my speedometer and ask myself, am I over the speed limit here? Because as my speedometer changes as I slow down, the variation, the gap changes. And my speedometer and my truck shows 15 miles an hour I'm actually doing 25. And you don't want to be doing 25 in a 15 mile an hour zone. So that's the only reason and guess what? If it doesn't work anymore, oh man, it's back to calculating my speed. That's the only reason I have one. But if people want to center their lives on this false intelligence thing and panic and kill people or you know, there's some sort of crisis taking place. I want you to think it over real closely. Everything that we have been threatened with the past, you know, let's just get with two years. That's more recent, right? Last two years, it's always some sort of electrical outage or you know We're gonna get nuked and you know, they're going to do it. What was that? The EMP is gonna take out all the power in America Isn't that what they've been telling us and now we have something as simple as a GPS? Oh, it could possibly take out all the power of America It's the same threat over and over and over only from different stories. You know, well next thing you know Somehow marshmallows will affect the atmosphere. We have to quit producing marshmallows because it's eating away the ozone layer in some strange way. Marshmallow fart on top of everything else, which you didn't know existed, because they declared it. It's here all of a sudden. So this is what we're talking about when we say pay attention to what your fears are, what you consider to be a threat. That's all we're saying. Pay attention because they're all the same threats and it doesn't matter if it's a nuclear bomb or a GPS or you know, whatever the threat comes out. Oh, it might affect this and of course, you know when people can't get their money out of the bank or use your debit or credit cards, you know, whatever the panic ensues, but the threat is always the same. So let's back up here for just a minute and ask ourselves Okay, how long have we been listening to the threats? How long have we been listening to the threats, Mark? I remember back in the 90s when the banks were all going to collapse and we were going to some sort of system, you know, rainbow money or something and there'd be a new evolution of, you know, financial something or another. And as we get along here, you know, then it's the now, of course, we're in the digital age, the digital funds that we have. And that's all controlled by what, computers? And being, nobody knows their secrets, because it all has to be secret. All they can do is come up and tell you, hey we got a problem here, and the whole financial aspect of the whole country, of the whole world, is fixing to collapse, you know, Y2K, blah blah blah. What makes that threat any different than the one where they came out and said oh, hey, man, you know Kriya is gonna nuke us or You know somebody's gonna rush here when they rush rush is going to go set off an EMP in America is gonna go dark What makes this one any different from any of those because the endgame the results are what the same? Over here you have no electrical grid over there. You have no electrical grid over here You have no financial something in this one though. You know, it just keeps going back and forth. Although the story seems somewhat different you It is always the same anyway pay attention to those kind of things back to you mark about that If you hear a beep on the I did man. Oh, I had my four pod Kia I had a muted but apparently it goes through the mute. That's kind of interesting I've never seen that before four pod key operator. She thinks that she needs to help out this morning The big thing here again is, know the basics. First rule, and to a degree, it's kind of like, well, when a plane does have a problem, what's the first thing you do? If you run an autopilot, it gets shut off, doesn't it? Probably be thinking that that would be a good idea, and maybe you need to practice, practice, practice. Take your pick, whatever the subject is. Land navigation is one of those where so many glitching things going on with the phone navigation that it's become so obnoxious, it is not necessarily then a convenience. It doesn't do what you do, but you keep trying to use it. It becomes what? It then becomes a distraction information. It becomes a liability, not an advantage. Everybody understand that? How much time are you wasting trying to fix what was supposed to be a convenience on registering? It's not giving me the right information. That now becomes an inconvenience. something to think about there. Oh, this is my, yeah, my, she's thinking she needs more beer and help me with the phone again. So we'll see what happens. Anyway, I'm having to watch somebody hear my, my peripheral. She's thinking she'd make a leak for the area of operations. Remember, he's good to try it anyway. You know, your area of, you are, you know, your area of operation quite well. And again, they always say like 25 miles. It is true. Although it depends on how big your terrain, you know, what your country, you know, what's, what's countryside are you dealing with like out there out west your area of control is typically larger because between people is where you normally have areas of actually safe you know the most you have most directions within 25 miles of home well that's because you do most of your driving where 25 miles of home does I shouldn't need a land navigator for that would you think And yet people are actually turning off their brains so much that they're doing that. Now you're within a 25 mile radius. You should be fully cognizant and should be in the moment dealing with the environment you're in, especially driving a half ton or a one ton or a one and a half ton or two ton killing machine. Given the opportunity, it's a very good killing machine if you're not careful. It's interaction, this interaction thing going on. We've talked about this before, galactic automotive physics, two vehicles cannot occupy the same space at the same time. Again, there's another term that comes in here, it gets to the point of being lazy. Now in this case, well, not lazy, I'm out there physically moving up. No, it's called brain lazy. And this is something that pilots have been warned about or were warned about for years. And drivers, well, Joe, you've been a, you know, I mean, brain lazy happens to you, you gotta watch it. You have to constantly keep yourself alert, don't you, when you're a big truck driver, right? We'd be smart to yeah, you're going thousands of miles. I mean there's certain areas. I mean like when you're in Kansas That's not exactly real exciting driving is it? No, it's all whole wheat field. Well, you know whole wheat field telephone ball If you do enough of it, you know, I'm there have been times in all honesty, man I'm going through Pennsylvania asking myself Wow, when the hell did I go through Phoenix? I don't remember. Well, the only reason you don't remember is because nothing significant took place. You were just on autopilot. You were... That's for the subconscious with working knowledge that it has. This is something that... This is another thing that, you know, you're told about this when you're taught to shoot or when they talk about other skills, but what it comes down to, when that happens to when you're driving, your skill sets are all ingrained because of repetitive use. And literally, it's inventoried in the lumber yard in the subconscious category. When that happens to you, it's not that you did anything wrong, but everything you were supposed to do, watching the road, not running over cars, not making the road, you know, don't make the run, don't make a turn, you don't need to because you know where you're going. You're on a straight path. And your mind is actually multitasking, but in a relatively safe way. Unfortunately, like I said, you need to live in the moment depending on, you know, again, do you feel? Basically your brain, you know, your brain settled into the idea, I've got this part that you don't normally talk of conscious element, that second tier with all of the conditioning, all the training. This is why they talk about repetitive training with guns. Okay, and here we go. So it doesn't work out. Yes, it does. Automatic process, even though you may not even follow through on all of the automatic processes, like aiming would be kind of nice. I will point out that I know many, many people who have been in personal shootouts. remember and like I've said I've sat down with them with a cup of coffee and they'll say I remember when I pulled the trigger I remember when a magazine remember anything in between not right away it actually takes time especially with their fresh I've had guys that have just been in a shootout and you'd debrief them cops see Detroit cops for instance one of the guys he told me he goes hey he was in a situation six magazines and partially fired a seventh and that's what he told me I remember firing the first rounds, I remember stop shooting when I stopped shooting, but I do not remember changing those mags or firing at that target. And yet, pretty much everything went where it was supposed to and everything went the way it was supposed to. Why? To train at conditioning, taking over in the subconscious, let your training kick in. Well, when you have that little lapse of memory, like you said, it's not eventful, so it's like, well, what is it that's mind pounding about what you just did going through Phoenix? Nothing. Why? You did it right. And there's also a thing time that we have a ever gotten into but I'm fascinated it's like right here in the morning one minute it'll be I mean literally that's what it feels like three minutes before the I'm trying to get something done or set up just before the program you know I go and found a list of things I wanted to do from last night and all of a sudden it's two minutes you know I we're on the edge I mean I but I mean it happens every once in a while where you have to ask yourself did time speed up did I slow down you know what happened you're in a meter, you're in a pace when you're doing stuff, you know, guys, think about it. It's like even when you wrench on a vehicle or if you work on, if you're in drafting or whatever, doing things, it's amazing how you know you have something to accomplish. You figure it should take a certain amount of time, but all of a sudden it seems like the clock's changed and you didn't get what you, you know, you know what your pace should be, you know what your task should be, you know how it should be done. And yet the clock, the timing didn't match. You ever think about that? It's kind of like when the discussion you just brought up about the driving thing. How the hell did I end up in Pennsylvania? And if you're by your... It happens typically when you're by yourself. Not always, but it happens when you're by yourself. So what's happening with your brain with regard to registering time? Because it's almost as if you didn't even exist within that time block or there's somebody else that did that's in your body. I mean, think about how that develops, how that takes place. Because you even have to step back when you go on, like you said, wow, how the hell am I? I'm on the turnpike in Pennsylvania. How the hell did I... Oh, wait a minute. Oh, yeah, okay, that's right. Yeah, oh, I did 80-90 at the other end. Yeah, I'll go there and how I got here. And then you'll let it slide. But ask yourself the process that got you to that. That's what's always fascinating to think about. And time, that elusive factor, is always worked into it because it's like you were transported. But you weren't. You did go through that time experience. You did live those moments. Something that's, and people, and this is where we talk about all the variations on what kicks your brain into. Think about things in different ways or how you perceive. In fact, if you have ever had an experience with adrenaline rush, like time slows down. Now there's a whole explanation for that. We have class, they've explained about, you know, how you can either lose or without taking control of the adrenaline rush and what it is you perceive. The biggest problem is your brain is working so fast that battlefield computer between your ears which all the artificial intelligence is trying to copy is doing so many things. Joe when you drive how many different things are you doing when you've got your hands on that wheel when you're driving a big truck? How many different processes are you going through? You've got math constantly going on don't you? Absolutely. I mean you got a big thing behind you right? It's not like you're driving a four-wheel vehicle. subroutines you have to have in your head if you're even just to change a lane right? I still try to shift my manual transmission in my automatic automobile. I had a three on the driver to drive on a three on the tree and then the next car is automatic what do you think what do you think was happening? I think you have a lot of part gear going on. No, mine doesn't do this anymore. I don't have to do that anymore. But you get so used to it. You know how you can do it with like two or three fingers, guys, and you're shifting a car and it's manual and everybody would swear to God you got an automatic. Yeah. But then you go to the automatic with a shifter on the column and I kept reaching to think I'm going to, you know, I'm trying to get a clutch pedal that doesn't exist. Where did that clutch pedal go? Oh my god, I'm coming to a stop! Well Kelly's always telling me there's no shifter. Well the bad part is if you're a totally different vehicle and you reach down for air, you know? There isn't anything to reach down for, right? That's the fun one. Where did that stick go? Oh, so we're gonna... Yeah, but then here's the thing. Your mind is traveling so quickly. What's going through your head when that happens? Oh my god, I'm coming up on this stop! We gotta deal with this. Oh, I gotta downshift. Yeah. And you're like reaching and then there's a moment of panic. Yeah. I admit it. I mean, there's this instant. It's a micro instant where you're thinking, oh, and then you realize, oh, wait a minute. Foot on break. We got a caller Mark. So guys just, you know, we're, we're bringing up ideas because you got to start thinking about this training and conditioning. You have, are you already been doing this in so many other areas and it's a second, it's a second thought process. When you go to the other things we're talking about for preparedness and survival and you know life all these other processes work the same way including skills you may not have yet shooting for instance okay which we always program. We get a call or jump in there please. Hi it sounds like I interrupted a really good train of conversation but I was listening to some of you talking about I happen to have quite a field I was a machinist for seven years and I had a couple parts and jobs making rifle barrels. What's your name there buddy? What's that? What's your name? Josh. I'm right over here in Gallopville. Okay, hang on for a few minutes, Josh. We've got to go to a little bit of a commercial. We're going to break. We'll be right back. We didn't mean to hold you out that long. Guys, for everybody out there, remember, heading to the weekend to support the Micro Effect, 208-935-0094 or themicroeffect.com. You can go there, donate. It's Friday. You've got to paycheck. Hey, if you can see your heart, please, we do need the donations. We've got to keep the lights on up there on the hill. to do that and to keep everything running. Your donations are what makes it happen. So please do that. We're going to be back in a few minutes. Joe Mark and we got a call. 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Yeah, so we were talking about rifle barrels and I happen to have a considerable amount of experience both in making them and using them. In my experience, I manufactured two types of barrels, button rifled and cut rifle barrel. Most accurate rifle barrels in the world, cut rifle barrel. And the reason that is because when they machine the metal, allowing the metal to be stress relieved as the machine process is going on, and they do the critical dimensions last, the bore and the material is all removed, you know, a couple ten thousandths of an inch at a time, where is button rifling, they literally, they drill the hole, actually iron and form the rifling into the inside of the barrel, entering of the barrel, the outside diameter for last, and what happens when you move all that material from the outside of the barrel, inside of the bore actually grows, it grows in the same direction that the stress was applied by the button. Mass produced classic arms for $5 to $50, $70, $100, it's always going to be button rifled to my knowledge. Like that, you know, you're getting... I understand. One of the things I would point out that I've said many times, most of the rifles that we're building, I consider to be in the Gladius range. In other words, these are utility, standard, it's going to be acceptable or what is called service acceptable, you know the term. As opposed to rifle marksmanship, then you're going the other direction, you want to start paying, you will spend the money for the before And kind of like race cars, you want a car that can do 105 miles an hour, you can reach a lot of money and get that. You want a car that can do 170 miles an hour. Well, the money's not so reasonable, but the end product that you wanted, the same is true of this. What we're talking about is the difference between, say, what would be found in the Legion. The Gladius was cranked out like the M16 rifle or the M1956 Harper's form within a specific range, but it is limited. Some just happen to, and you know this as well as I do. Some just still hit it right across the board and that's where when you test a mass number of rifles, you cherry pick out of the bunch for the ones that seem to be tighter or performing better and you might give them to a marksman's great shooter. But again, if you want to spend the money, like we can build $5,000 AR-15s, those will not be like the $3,500 HK that will be a piece of garbage that we're going to give the Marine Corps. Really should be rated downward, but instead is going to be performed as well as would be hoped once we're done with everything. If we're going to spend money on a Cadillac, I should get a Cadillac, you know what I mean? I understand all that. And the middle of the road for me has been either greater criterion or chrome lined or FN chrome lined barrels, chrome deposition process down really well. The problem with chrome lined barrels used to be that the chrome was in uniform 360 degrees around the bore and from one end of the barrel to the other. and I don't know the broad stuff, but they seem to have solved that problem because I have had numerous chrome-lined criterion barrels and SN barrels that shoot more ammo into an inch, inch and a half, and match grade ammo into a half inch. I see one of those barrels for $150 to $300. I know that's more expensive than a $50 barrel, but chrome-lined barrels will last $50,000 to $20,000 rounds before I start to see a loss of accuracy. To me, that's the best of all worlds. I get a barrel that lasts a really long time that would be a match grade rifle barrel by military standards. And I know that it's going to last and knock a road when I need it. And I also have considerable experience with the SCAR-17 platform. I know everybody kind of likes to make fun of the name SCAR. This is not an exaggeration. I've automatic 308 rifles in my lifetime. And I don't like M1As because the paint amount and scope that doesn't lose its zero easily because the mount was an afterthought. AR-10, I love the ergonomics of the AR rifle and how easy it is to field strip and replace parts. I went through the process to, I'm sure I'm on a list, but I went through the process to legally own suppressors. I had an attorney set up a trust and all that. And what I noticed with suppressors on the YAS impingement rifles, You're doubling the pressure and you're making the rifle foul and get dirty a lot easier. And you notice it in the .308 platform a lot more than the .223 platform. A lot of things that come into play, of course, the gas port size, the gas block, and the barrel, length of the gas system. For anybody out there that's building rifles, you're better off just to stick with the longer length gas system. And the reason for that is because the gas system is longer, it gives a little more time for the pressure inside the case to go down before the bolt begins to move rearward and extract the case. And again, when you pressers, it causes all the problems you would normally have by about two folds just because of the extra pressure and the following caused by the suppressor. And back to the SCAR-17, the system platform, and it was engineered from the beginning, I've never had any problems like that and the SCAR-17 uses a pencil-thin 16-inch barrel, a forged chrome line, and one that I've seen with a half-minute of angle with match grade ammunition, so they're expensive, but I think that they're worth it and the only real problem that I can see with the rifle is it's hard to get... ...firing pin extractor, ejector immediately, springs, all primary springs, anything like that in the spare parts, you know, a group. It's out there. See, the one thing is, we all know it. You mentioned the scar. Most anybody shooting knows about the scar. It's embedded itself sufficiently enough that there is a market interest. It means that there is going to be a parts inventory if we press it. It's just like guys who have special calibers that they like 10mm. It's not the big kid on the block. If you want more 10mm ammo out there, you gotta buy it. The idea that everybody needs to be, you know, inventory so that the parts inventory will be available. If somebody uses it, you think that's an advantage, at some point, although they're paranoid to agree and they'll probably shred and burn and crush and use a torch on everything. Eventually parts may come out of the inventory from one a policing agency or government agency or another but down the road there will be, I don't know how much of the gun will be left, just like you said, for example barrels. You know what I've been talking about the destruction for instance on these kits why we need to know how to make barrels or we need to find sources for barrels and why I was talking about purchasing these barrels, the chief barrels simply because Those FN barrels, they started doing this, remember, years ago with the FN kits. One of the reasons is because even the tackiest FN kit coming into the country, still made by FN and were factory production, high. And those are the first guns that they started chopping the barrels up into five pieces of. The ATF told them, you will. One of the reasons was because of the quality and performance and the longevity of performance. something that then they tack it over to everybody everything else any kits coming in HK 91s and 1a's that we even American made and but you know we're coming back home when they chopped everything's got to be chopped so machine gun barrels the receivers of course by the time you come to the core components of the gun have been destroyed it was value more for it go ahead in the inexpensive barrels from plastic arms I've experimented with those as well those shoot reasonably well still one and a half to two inches with all ammo you can get down to inch to inch and a half pretty consistently with match great ammo, so they're nothing to nothing to sneeze at They just don't act as long either the you'll start getting throat erosion fairly quickly from a hard use I guess some of the durability platform in general so the ever-read shotgun news especially the older issues there was a Just to be a column every month called Fred's column on how to become a rifleman Yeah, when the kids there were a couple of younger guys that took over now. They're they're middle But when they took that over, they were fairly young. And these guys were hard chargers, like most people in gun circles are now catching on if they're in the service. And that's where that whole series came from because they brought up on the air during the time we were doing shortwave. The guy that started that whole program, he's a real estate, and his real name was Jack Daly. And the first shoot that he put on outside of his home state of North Carolina to my knowledge, was in Worland, Wyoming at an old National Guard range, and I was in 2005, and I happened to go to that. And at the time, I was a diehard believer in the 1A platform rifle, and the ones that I had, you know, were Springfield Armory. And at the shoot, you know, it was a high desert environment. I think the elevation was about 44, 4,500 feet. Mine sand blowing, and I was on the firing at the same time. And it was a full distance shoot, not to scale down that 25 meter shoots that are still popped in and out. But anyways, I was under the impression when I went to that shoot that the AR-15 was a piece of junk and the M1A was go and the AK-47 was as reliable as could be and the HK-91. And in that high desert environment with fine sandblowing every, before the end of the first day, it was not a single M1A on the line that was running because of the open action. up all that sand and a couple H8s start to fail, a couple H-chain 91s start to fail. Ironically, if you're shooting an AR platform rifle, let's say the ones that have the discipline to use their dust cover when they weren't on the firing line, those rifles were all still running at the end of two days. And I'm not the only one that has reached that conclusion. There's a fellow on YouTube that did an experiment where he's shooting various rifle platforms. He has a face shield on. And a friend of his is next to him with an air compressor and a nozzle blowing a pile of sand in his direction as he is shooting. And the same thing occurs, the platform, the 15 platforms, so they're not as big of a piece of junk as people think they are. You had a little hiccup, for some reason you went blank. Repeat what you just said, we're not trying to be abusive, it's just, you just said, go ahead. Just a moment ago, Bob. There's a pillow on YouTube that has also done experiments, they shield on, he has a certain nozzle. sand in his direction as he's shooting these various platforms and he reached the same conclusion. The rifles that have an open action, such as the M1A, clean up that sand, it gets adhering to the lubricant and the action of the rifle very quickly and the rifles such as the AR-15 actually run longer than the M1A in those conditions. Everybody that thinks that the AR-10 platform rifle are reliable and junky, that's not been my experience at all. It depends just the opposite in really adverse conditions. Well, the first thing I'd remind you about, and I've pointed out for years about the Grand and the M14, for that matter, the carbine. This is what's funny is when we run machines, we maintain. And I find that people either are trying to be politically correct or trying to look like they're not intense in their activity, or they're just lazy. That's a word we came up with earlier. Anybody who ran any of the wars that it was in will tell you that constantly check the weapon and keep it clean. Number one, like you said, the bolt trail. And then the other part about that is again, don't forget the opera with regard to the thing that makes the whole, Mr. Shaving brush was the typical solution. Most guys usually had him in a pocket on hand. And when you stopped, serve your area of operation and you do quick maintenance on the gun. The problem, and this is why we've gotten the conversations about for years, I've even had people that were saying, And it works just fine until that time when you didn't clean your air 15 and you're standing in front of a threat and then it malfunctions, which is when it happens, when you didn't do maintenance. So the biggest problem is that when we've had this discussion is, well, are you using this as an excuse to do something? One of the most fascinating things I've ever thought about is, you know, you're not going anywhere. In a fighting situation, it's not like you and I were doing something today. You're at work today, I'm at work today, and we're busy, okay? When you're in a fighting situation, where the hell are you going? In fact, you got a lot of hurry up and wait, sit on your dead ass and do nothing. The idea that, oh my God, I had to pull out a brush and actually do maintenance on the weapon, which by the way, any guy who was a grand rifleman or an M14 rifleman would tell you that that's what you do. You do maintenance constantly. But the reason that, in fact, they did the research during the Vietnam War, the guys that transitioned from the 14, since most of them didn't really carry the grand except in the guard, that were grandsons special at that time. Transits from the foreshind and paranoid about maintenance on the gun. Those are the weapons that did not fail in the unit. Remember, there's a period before C-8 that they don't do anything about if they can help it. Why? Well, the Iron Triangle is famous for all the men who were slaughtered because the M-16 failed us. It failed because of McNamara and a bunch of political incorrect decisions compared to engineering and also, you know, we know now. But what it still comes down to is the men who were giving the gun, who many cases never fired a gun before, were told that you could take that rifle and sicken the water and clean it and it was a system and it couldn't get malfunctioned, it wouldn't get dirty. Wait a minute, because they used the wrong powder or they used powder, no matter what, the car, you know, it defecates where it eats. Continue to survive where actually the main shooters in a lot of the incidents during that middle war period were the people who had the discipline to continue to do maintenance on their weapon when they stopped. Look around. Well, by the way, my hands are already up. I'm dusting off the action. I'm checking the system. Charging handle a little bit to make sure the bolt carrier for the end when they went to the M16 still in that mode of constant maintenance. And again, where are you going? What do you got to do? You're out there picking your nose, scratching your arse, looking around and make sure somebody's not sneaking up on you trying to kill you. Shouldn't you be multitasking at that point? You know, it was an attitude of, you know, this new machine, a new idea that kind of got people killed. what you're saying. At the end of taking the attitude, I can lay my system down. They did maintenance on it, maybe they didn't. I guarantee most of them, you didn't see them sitting there in between just even while you're firing. You're sitting on the range, you're belly gun, you're laying down, you're looking at the target, you're waiting for the relay to start. Your relay, you're done. Most anybody would be a traditional guy with experience. Already checking the weapon and doing a little bit of maintenance, getting ready for the next battle. In this situation that I'm referring to when I was in Wyoming, standstorm condition at all like you'd see in the Middle East, but I could not get a rifle to run more than a 10 to 12 round. That being the rifle being freshly cleaned and looped. I have to say on the other hand, in an environment that's not like that, like I live in terrain similar to what Joe lives in. You know, I've got thousands upon thousands around and never had a single problem. That's the same way. That niche, like you said, fired at warm, you know, intermediate and extreme condition and cold. I found it's like that's the gun I like. We're a Michigan hero. Well, I agree. When I started shooting, the M1A was what was recommended and I can, the rear sight is denominated in yards and the standard issue rifle, the rear sight is denominated in meters and I can take one of those rifles and crank that rear sight up and get down into a swing prone position and hit a five times at 900 yards with iron sights. I'm doing that. I've got an M1A so much that I can Second nature within the site. Yeah second nature, but I still I put scope on it with arms mount That's supposed to be high quality scope mount a lock tight it in and I was over the friend's house and I had that rifle up against the chair upright and he knocked it over and It a foot so I was I was curious and I took it out to the range and the zero was off a foot at 100 yards So that an impact is knocked that scope off on the other hand. I've had rifles with the picatin rail that I've had scopes mounted to that have went flying over a small cliff during hunting season. And I've done the same test, picked them up and they're within an inch to a hundred yards. So the M1A, I mean, that platform, it is what it is. Both iron sights, it has a long sight radius, making it easy to make hits with compared to other rifles like the AKA that have a short sight radius. But I mean, still, all of you has evolved and moved along. And when I go pick up a SCAR 17 and it's field stripped and clean, It's got great iron sights, very lightweight, a light job better than the M1A. Let me explain something. I've mentioned this many times on here, especially from my perspective, and why it is that I'm promoting certain weapons systems. Because the surplus is still there, what kept the SKS from M1 carbine alive? Big buy. The Garand alive, and what's still keeping it alive? We're still running on leftovers from World War II. The M1A is the same way. In fact, the M14 was actually more economical to run with even more parts it was making an m14 copy and parts were so stinkin' cheap and there were tons of them out there, tons. I mean, I bought m14A1, you know, the A2E2, pistol grip stocks made in birch or walnut for $2 at the gun shows. Why? I had people telling me, well, who do you want to buy that for? You ain't got nothing to put it on. And it's like, this is a, you know, it was an experimental stock for the counterparts of the m14, you know, for the squad rifle. Magazines were the same way. That's the reason that these rifles have survived, is the inventory that makes it possible for you to keep them running on the cheap. They'll come up a little bit in price and we're going to get to the point where classic and antique comes into play. The good thing is that the CMT re-is caught up with us, so a lot of the parts still need the prices can be kept down. That's what I was saying about the SCAR. The SCAR right now is up in the premium grade. If you're willing to spend the money, and I've always said this on air, if you're willing to spend the money and you have that resource, You can buy that one rifle. That one rifle, for most of my people, and I just had this conversation with some of our ladies last night, what should I get? One AR-15, why? It's the cheapest thing out there for the moment that really does the job. And you're not gonna probably be fighting all the time, are you? But if you do put it to you, it's gonna do everything it needs to do. And most important, it didn't cost you an arm and a leg and you still kept, it's like you said, that's the weapon to buy. If this was 30 years ago, I would have told them an M1 carbine to $125. And eventually the scar is going to come down a little bit because, you know, as Cassette said, it may be more plentiful. It's one of those middle guns. You know, like you mentioned the AR-10. For the longest time, nobody had an interest in the AR-10. Nobody. AR-10. I agree with what you're saying because I look at it from a realistic perspective that I can... The market now for 80% lowers has just exploded. AR-15 or an AR-10, I prefer the extra power and range of a 308 or a 6.5 millimeter or more. But yeah, you can still get parts and abundance for an AR-10 just like an AR-15. I mean, aero precision builds phenomenal products. They've engineered a system where they hand guard in the upper receiver. They don't want the top lines up perfectly. They're inexpensive, they're accurate. It's pretty hard to go wrong with that. I agree with you, D.R. We're going to lose the timer, but one thing's also, the AR-10 can still be built from components that we can fabricate. Gar is into the polymer rifle range, which, unless somebody's willing to do an after-market component, and that'll happen, because think about this, the AR-10, that surplus came from the remanufacturing industry, not from the surplus industry. It came because people started building some of those little kits that showed up years ago, People thought, man, I like this rifle, and the whole industry bloomed from that. The biggest problem with the SCAR is that that's probably not going to happen by the nature of the design of the rifle. In fact, ARs is the last family of rifle where we can actually still crank them out in our backyard. When we start looking at the polymer guv's, the only way to do the polymer guv's is to come up with another material solution. You know, I kind of like choked about doing a Glock and brass. Gotta go. Yeah, we're out of here, guys. Good subject is, thank you, sir. If you could, call again, please. God bless the Republic. We shall prevail ladies and gentlemen, the Empire is on the run. And we're on the Mars night and day. Ura, gotta keep em' runnin'! Machines, I don't care what it is, rifles or cars or even your lawnmower or the chainsaw. One way or another, you gotta do maintenance guys and you gotta keep up on it. Some more than others, but guess what? It's paid for. You ain't gotta spend any more dollars for the moment just other than a little bit of time. Right here, Joe taking over, more live radio coming up. Don't you touch that dial. God bless. Bye bye. Friday, mind is... to the micro effect.