Yeah, I don't know if that's entirely true. I don't know what the pressures are at the bottom of the oceans, but we have not been able to successfully dive, even in space suit type, that deep. There are some diving suits that can withstand great pressures, but they have not been able to go, at least not with any known program, to be able to go that deep in any sort of pressure suit that's just housing a human, not just a cat. some kind of spherical generally because the pressures are so great. You're not likely to see anything happen with Venus other than maybe some sort of orbital spirit for long periods of time before it gets into the pressures of the depths of the atmosphere of the surface. I have a lot of other windows open here. I'm out of time. Again, prayers go to the Betcher family for whatever's happening there. I do not know what's happening there. I only heard the last few sentences of Mark's show. Sounds like Don is in bad shape. Pairs out to Don and his family. 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It is the 10th year of open Fabian, Socialist, and Soviet Socialist Occupation of America with a K, 2018, older calendar 2018, year of conflict, year of... And if you'd like to call in, you can do so tonight, not a problem, not as any night for that matter, but it is Weapons Wednesday. Quick heads up. Don is of course same condition. We've had a lot of our friends stopping by. I've got a few of our friends here right now that are visiting. For all of you out there, again, a reminder that with the season being what it is, make sure you grab your cold weather gear and put it in the vehicle. Always have some on standby. You don't have to have arctic gear. But if you have layers of regular clothing, just a little bigger than what you normally wear, goes a long way towards keeping you with layers in reasonable comfort. So that's one of the tricks. I go to yard sales and all the estate sales. I just got some phenomenal Gore-Tex, camouflaged Cabela clothing for a very good price. The man was quite reasonable. All in sizes, it will fit everybody. Layered clothing on top of everything else. And it's like I told them, instead of buying the stuff, instead of getting each vehicle, it's as nice as the rest of the equipment. And I've been cherry picking. And for instance, I got a quantity of regular reel belts. I got a quantity of marsh grass items. And then I also picked up some tree bark. The original tree bark from years ago, decades ago. I've been piecing that together and prioritizing it for one bundle so that all the tree bark stuff is going together. You know, gloves, covers, literally, you know, whole insulated boot covers, clothing, uniforms, jackets, vests, you name it, even hoods. And again, I'm paying little or nothing for it. Just watch for it here, pick it up there, and then prioritize stacking it all in the same bundle. The same is true of a lot of the other gear. So there's no reason for you not to have decent equipment. in the vehicle ready to go, separate from absolutely everything else. Don't kick it out and put it back in. Pick it out and put it back in. Buy stuff that nobody else is gonna wanna grab. Warm is one thing, pretty is irrelevant. So there's nothing to take into consideration. Well, I wouldn't wear that. Good, that's what goes in the truck. Why? Nobody's gonna grab them, okay? Nobody's gonna carry them off. That's a big double plus good. You open up and well, when you're looking for it, it's still there. Pretty doesn't count for anything. Not freezing. Okay, so just a little heads up. Ruger isn't actually, one of our friends asked about the little Ruger bolt .22s that are out there, which by the way, if you check and look, it'll do a little reading, not only are they in .22, but you can deep barrel those and switch them over to other rimfire calibers if you want to. Most of the rifles can be done, most of the .22s that are modern, this can be done, so the .17 calibers and Some of the other shouldered 22 rimfire, 22 case type, but shouldered rimfire can be used with the existing weapon because of basic, you know, dimension length. Barrel bore diameter, of course, is the option. That's where the variable is. They're good guns. I don't see anything wrong with them. Ruger makes fine weapons in general. Okay, can I point that out? Seriously, dude, they make good firearms. I wouldn't hesitate, wouldn't think twice. In fact, the Ruger 10-22 has been the standard for a lot of people in preparation, survival mode, slash fill in the blank, just game getting. And it was started, the production started in the 50s, guys. This is the year, 1950s. This is the year 2018. You figure out how long it's been around. That's a lot of spare parts and a lot of junk made for the gun. And it's sitting there on the shelves where it's been available so that there's no reason not to keep that weapon going for quite some time. In the Roeder bolt guns, like their heavier guns, they do beef the weapon up and they lean more towards it being an adult-sized firearm. Now, if it were a full adult pattern gun, it would basically be the traditional pattern of weir-rebolt, model 77, and then would be chambered maybe in a lighter caliber or in .22. When we say leaning towards an adult-sized gun, in that the basic overall pattern of the rifle is slightly larger than what you considered a cadet format, that's a youth gun, but it will or can be used or can be configured to work with a younger person or they can grow into the firearm into adulthood and they'll be very happy to continue to use the firearm through however long they want to make it a tradition to use that gun. So the nice thing is it is a development rifle or developmental designs. Now in the adult category you've got to remember guys for many many years although you don't see as common as you used to Winchester, Remington Ruger, everybody, Stevens used to make competition or mid-grade competition 22 caliber adult rifles. They're still out there floating around, every once in a while you see one of the shows, accurate as any other firearm out there and in fact are built more for the stature of the average American adult. So they form better for shooting configurations both with prone, kneeling, standing, take your pick. Are they a good choice? That was the other question. Yeah, well of course. The problem is, they used to be they were a $40 or $50 rifle or $100 rifle at the most. Unfortunately, it's been a long time since anybody's made a lot of the adult .22 rifles. And so unfortunately now they're headed towards that collector grade or vintage grade. And because of that, the price has gone up in the cost of the weapon purely because of its collectability and its uniqueness. And the fact that there just isn't a production output on that particular arm anymore. Not just in the design, say a Model 52 or a Model 46, but rather just the idea of the overall design concept. There is not anyone picking up and producing in good quantities a, what would be considered an intro or a basic competition rifle that doesn't start looking like it's going to cost you an arm and a leg in the your first newborn son. Okay? That's sad because you don't just jump into jets. The idea is you work your way up through the trade and through the system and eventually develop skills. And you have to have tools to develop those skills with that are comparable to the different levels of performance. And that isn't out there the way it should be. It's something that again, shooting sports are responsible for that themselves. I've talked about this before about attitude. Anyway, the Rugers, Bokons, I'm pretty much all of them are well made. I don't think that they offered in this latest Ruger bolt example a single shot with no magazine, neither tubular nor stick. I think pretty much all of them are, again, using a magazine in one form or another. I haven't seen a game getter in these traditional game getter pattern in quite some time, although that's what I actually learned to shoot with was a single shot .22 with no magazine, simply a tray .22. You have your laser round in there, close the bolt, you better get it with the first shot, or you better be really good at putting that next round into that chamber area and closing that bolt as fast as you could, because it'll ship you or whatever else you're shooting, and it's probably going to get away. So the idea was first round, first hit, that's how I was taught right from the get-go and that's the rifle that I did all of my squirrel and bunny hunting with for the longest time when I was little, when I was young. And of course a single shot Ithaca lever action 20 gauge. That was the other half of the business. Again, single shot, no magazine, no tubular magazine. Little trick there is, you know, again you have your second and third shots between your middle finger and your ring finger. and your second shot shell is between your little finger and your ring finger and you hold those there, you get real good at firing, ejecting, introducing, sliding the next round into play, closing the action, cocking the hammer, and boom, follow up with a second shot, or if need be a third. I got really good at that, without having to pump anything, I mean, didn't have a pump action. Single shot, Ithaca, blonde wood, nice little shotgun, comfortable little shotgun to shoot. Pretty much had it all my life, so again, worked really well. Now those are stupid priced, and actually quite collectible because they are an intricate gun and they were very well built. They were built like a brick doghouse. Wood, very high quality, metallurgy and finish, decent across the board, and a good workhorse shotgun if you do have one. I wouldn't get rid of it. I just keep it right in the inventory. It's already bought and paid for. It works for what it's supposed to do. Other things about the Rugers, the question was also about optics. You know, that's a personal preference choice. I know a lot of people like some major dial-up. And for game getting or varmint getting, easy. I would point out that there are a lot of unique things out there that are quite useful, but also more expensive than the gun. A simple 9 power, a flat 9 power, is a nice little thing to put on something for intermediate or long game getting. Nothing fancy about the reticle, just regular crosshair or single post, and that's a flavor preference choice. You can go smaller and lighter. In fact, for the longest time, as you know, I recommended the 3.5 and 5-Power China Sport scopes, especially because, again, for the price, $5, $6 apiece years and years ago, decades ago now. You could pile up a bunch of the scopes. They actually were pretty robust. They took a lot of abuse, but on a .22, they'd fire forever. And so you had a nice little dial-up optic system on a nice bolt-action frame mechanism, and away you go. Today there's a Barca there at low end, but they do have a simple crewed scope, a series of scopes that work with the 22s that work very, very well. And in fact, again, the other option being Bushnell, of course, even, oh my god, not Tesco. Yeah, even Tesco scopes will work. There are a few that are actually, again, beyond just the regular claw clamp type 22. Although there's lots of those out there. That market of the claw lower end has been eaten up or has been nipped at by the Chinese for quite some time. And if the Chinese aren't making the scope for the company and they're putting their name on it, They're flat out putting their, you know, chao chu, hong bang, dai yong bang, dai yi type scope out there as their first market item and hell with you Americans. They're hell with American companies. They're just selling it to us. They're trying to. These all work, but again, you spend a little more money and not too much on the rings. In fact, again, there's a nice base end set of Basra rings. They're not the only ones, but I've noticed that there's a crop of those coming up right now for between, oh, $3 and $5 is set. No, they're not very fancy. But on a 22, they aren't really going to be, you know, it's not like it's Magnum Force and you're Dirty Harry, you know what I mean? So they work just fine and allows you to bring that larger tube scope onto that 22, and then you're starting to count, you know, nose hairs and freckles as needed, and it gives you the ability to more effectively choose point of, you know, point of impact. personal favorite choice whatever you want to go on the optics again my idea what I usually do is try to mount the same or slightly smaller but slightly slightly less powerful but not the same scope that we put on the handout bolt-action you know placement rifles and nine power is actually a pretty good little package and the other reason is quick slide over from one to the next I used to buy the nine power I've mentioned this many times, because for whatever reason, I mean, back in the day, there was just a plethora of the buriscopes, and they're very well made, and they were all American made. Uh, 9, 10, 20 dollars for a used one. I've never had one evacuate or fail. I've never had one compromise its seal with regard to the tube. That's one thing I can say about them. And I've abused, and I don't say abuses, and I intentionally try to wrap my scopes around trees, but we don't baby any of the stuff that we run. and especially in the field grade where we're looking at a utility handout type rifle, the gun has to take a little bit of abuse. The other thing is, if you go from one weapon to the next, it's best if the guns are configured as close as possible, and one of the areas is, again, sight orientation. Now, the U.S. military did this in World War II. While we had a family of guns, and I've mentioned this many times, you'll see a significant change in the middle early years of the war the Army standardizes learning from experience standardizing sight picture configuration. If you don't think so, take a look at the M1A1 Thompson as opposed to the earlier Thompsons, of course simplifying it and crudifying the Thompson itself, you know, the M1 and the M1A1, the Grease Gun, the M1 Carbin, the 1903 A3 Springfield, and the M1 Garand. The basic sight picture for all of these weapons were configured to be approximately the same so that the mental, subconscious orientation immediately locks on to the idea of peat sight, barley corn front. Now, there were variations on that depending on the gun. Not all had the barley corn front end, but that single post was centered and was based to the same utility height from front to rear. so that the mental orientation on aligning the sights wouldn't significantly change from gun to gun. That was the reason for that. There was a purpose, there was method to the madness. Well, remember, we can do the same thing, especially when we're dealing with optics. In fact, even with night vision, Don's night vision technologies, there isn't a gun that the night vision can't be mounted on. Logically, if you're going with the lower end systems, but you wanted to do that across the board, then the 22s would be just as desirable to mount them on with a quieting device. And they would serve a number of admirable purposes in the future. But if at all possible, you'd want the weapons, each one, to be equipped with a basic system that would be quick to orientation and reference. sighting potential would be pretty much the same. The only thing that has to be addressed is point of impact based upon the projectile, the chambering of the weapon itself. Example that, yeah, your sight alignment was the same, but remember, you put your shoulder to a Thompson with a .45 ACP round as its primary, of course, chambering. Well, that's a tad different in terms of where the bullet goes when you're putting the M1 Garand to the same shoulder and with the same basic sight picture. You still have to orient physically to the point of impact and the performance of the weapon. But you're most of the way there because you've created a consistent sight image that eliminates reorientation time. Something that all this garbage was already figured out. In fact, I can show you all the paperwork. I've got all the reports on this. I've collected this stuff for decades and decades. And some of it just isn't being made available because they don't want you to think it true and maybe repeat and save time and lives and, you know, combat time and experience. You know, learn from the mistakes of others, you won't live long enough to make them all yourself. Now, as I mean, all of a sudden I'm going to throw at all my guns that are variants, and you should know better than that. But if you're building new and you're building the system, remember these are things you can work into your system based upon your SOP, Standard Operating Procedure. But you choose that. Now, we were to produce a militia slash army, a militia assured for whatever. We might recommend, but we still couldn't get anybody to follow any rules. Do you think that would happen? Hell no. Somebody would have one guru to say one thing, and the other guru would say another. Everybody would chant their separate mantras and contemplate their belly buttons and go different ways. I don't really have a problem with that. Again, SOP within your group. Whoever is your guru, whatever is your dictum, your ideology, your dogma, your choice, and then press it into total service. Get it going. Not if your idea works. Get it out there in the field and see what happens. And I mean by get out in the field, first conventional range, experimentation and testing. And comparative studies. This is where you get out there and shoot, but you shoot with a purpose rather than just plinking for the fun of spraying and praying. And then the next step is, now that you understand what its performance is in a laboratory type environment on a limited range situation, the next step is taking it into a true fire and maneuver environment. And this is where you have to have good control over your people, practice, practice, practice. Step one, before you go wailing away, is to teach your people how to actually operate in fire and maneuver, and let me recommend something airsoft. Not because I'm worried about pew pew pew making noise, but because my muscle memory can be the same. I'm carrying a weapon, or at least I'm carrying a training aid that simulates the weapon that I might be using or is close enough. And first, I teach the people the basic integrating processes of developing team cooperation. Step one. Step two is now integrating my rifle marksmanship theorem. with my infantry potential, my infantry theory, and to determine whether or not it's actually going to, you know, gain the end result that I want. Well, can I do what I want to do with what I've got? Just talk about it. You have to take it out and physically apply it. So your idea might be better, but until you can show me, I'll just say that it's another idea that really is, you know, it's kind of neat, it's interesting. Where have you applied it? How are you going to make it, how have you made it work? On that note, The other thing is, remember we talked about accumulating ammunition, guys. The other issue here with having many different weapons in a unit is, wherever you have integrated or common calibers, you kind of need to make sure everybody's on the same page, or at least has experimented with what is the most common, what are the common elements of your supply system. For example, we were talking about 7.62 by 51 NATO. Now pretty much the NATO round, everybody's round even if they use different powers, they might even have a separate or lighter or heavier bullet by only a short distance in terms of grains. But the point of impact is supposed to be consistent with NATO standard for the trail of activity and the normal engagement ranges that are specified by NATO standard. At 200 yards, all the bullets should be, you know, sight and point of impact should be consistent. At 250 300, 350, 400, 500 yards. There is a specific formula that was already pre-established and the rounds have to meet this criteria despite their country of origin. Let me give you an example of how that works. If you ever thought about this, what's the weight of a, for instance, U.S. military round? Just to give you an idea of how this works with international cooperation with regard to treaty nations. U.S. military ammunition, World War II, or even after World War II, we'll see. We got ball ammo, right? What's the weight? 130 caliber ball round. What is the weight of a standard M2AT 30 caliber? What is the weight of an armor-piercing incendiary? What is the weight of a free-serve? Wouldn't they supposed to be about 150 greens? Well, the first would be approximately that 147, being the most very common. But beyond that, each one has different weight potential, but the powder formula has been altered accordingly so that the performance with regard to point of impact is matched between each of those different rounds. Consider that some of them are actually pressed the 180 mark or 184 grain mark, and you've got armor piercing incendiary tracer. Oh, there's a mouthful. Of course that's typically Russian, that's not American. That's the armor-torsion incendiary tracer. First time I saw it, I said, my God, that round does everything! And it's true, it does. But, uh, that was made by the Russians as a catch-all. They're gonna build a specialized round, why not just make all the round, one round do everything? And you either load ball or you load armor-torsion incendiary tracer. This is my rifle! There are many like it, but this one is mine! That one is my best friend! It is my life! Without being useless! Without my rifle I'm useless. I feel true! You straighter than my A who is trying to kill me! He shoots me! Before God I pray this creed! My rifle! Until there is no... No! But my demand is to fill out his narrow danger! And there's danger in our hands! Oh, hear ye not just singin' out of the view, though wild and free! All of the rifle from the tree! All of the rifle! All of the rifle! In our hands! For those right bones! You may ride a good late speed, you may know a stern a master Your forward march with speed, but you'll learn the back much faster When you meet our mountain boys and their leader John Stark Glad you make what little noise and always hit the mark Hold the rifle, hold the rifle In our hands we'll prove no trifle Everybody out there again. old rifle that is the sound. In fact when they do the tattoo with the drum there, that rim tap with the drum, that represents the pan and then the main charge going off guys. That's how you hear it when you would be pulling the trigger on a cap and ball or on a originally before that on a flintlock. A couple of the things here real quick again about the idea of the standards. The reason I say test or you need to test if you have a dominant round You might have, like we were saying earlier, HK91s slash PTR91s. You may have FALs. You might have Remingtons and 308 semi-auto or pump guns. They're out there and a lot of guys like them and they feel that that's what they want to utilize and if they are going to do it, who am I to say different? The important thing is for everybody to invest, get the team, the group, to invest in a quantity of the round for evaluation and for test on effort point of impact. Take every one of the weapons that are in 308, get everybody out there on the range side by side, and set up some mapping targets, and then starting at 50 yards, do a five round group, and test each of the weapons accordingly. Rate. Look to see what kind of performance. Now, not talking about offhand, expecting to bench and bag. In other words, if you don't know how to make a shooting sandbag, learn to, and this should be part of your process. Now, this is not something you're going to be doing all the time, but if you are going to embrace a certain chambering, a certain load, and a certain manufacturer, you need to determine whether or not you're seeing consistency and performance with the many different weapons that you may have in service. After that, you reconfirm at 50 yards, five rounds. You then move the targets out. Actually, your best bet is paper is cheap. Establish another set of targets at 100 yards. And then re-perform the task, you know, five rounds into the target, sandbag, take your time. Let's see how these weapons are printing. What kind of drift are we seeing? Now, the important thing is you also need to make sure that somebody is supervising your shooters Correct your shooters if there's something that needs to be corrected to ensure that their rifle marksmanship is tightened up. So this gives you an opportunity to observe the performance of your people in the process. And again, you want to be a sergeant, you want to be a team leader, you want to be your boss, and you have a responsibility to develop the skill of your people and to assist in a positive way. Not through ridicule, but by building them up and correcting mistakes that are made. Most important that's how you tell there's between somebody who's actually in the leadership and somebody who? thinks they know what leadership is In my arc, okay, you know color go ahead. What do we have? Mike Commonality is uh, you have like you have like kind of lied to that and there you know You're back to work are gonna lose people that while anyone's uh weapon on their ego and one thing real quick, you know Well, I mentioned the M14 guys out there. There is a company, and forgive me, I don't have the tip of my tongue, but there's a company out there. If you send them your M14 mags, they will modify the M14 mags so that they will fit in an AR-10, not an AR-15, an AR-10. It's a neat idea for the very reason you're talking about, so that if somebody says, throw me a magazine and your team has AR-10s and M14s, that would be a good thing. That would be a positive action. It does cost money, but the guys, as long as you send them the magazines, they will machine them. They're obviously very high quality. I've heard no complaints from the people who have done this. But the advantage is, again, if you know what to look for, as long as you quick spot check the mag, oh yeah, it's one of those that will fit all of ours or will fit mine even though it was on a different rifle. The other thing, if you don't have, most important is at least compatibility and ammunition. In the early phases, especially, a lot of your people, uh... it in phase one are going to have whatever they're riding with but there's here's nothing is going to change as you capture more of the enemy's weapons and it's inevitable that that's going to happen you're going to be integrating more and more of those weapons based upon ammunition availability uh... this allows you to compress your other supply in your stretching out the time and performance So if you have 308 rifles, again, most important is if you do filter the ammunition all towards the riflemen that choose to carry the 7.62x51 NATO, what's their performance capability? Because we want to stretch this out as far as we can. And point of impact, what effects that means is a barrel, you know, rifling and slash rifling configuration, barrel length, of course. age of the firearms too. How is it broken in or is it beyond broken in? Not all the weapons that are really cool and heavy, bulky, bull barrel are necessarily going to be quote-unquote competition match guns just because they are big and they had a long barrel doesn't mean they can't have a little weevil wobble. So this is where testing and to develop understanding the performance of the individual weapons and also the ammunition itself. If you have other ammunitions in reserve, example, we're talking about a pallet of Portuguese, and then you have two pallets of German Hertenberg, I recommend that you test both and print both to all the weapons, and the shooters need to be identifying and understanding the difference in performance that the munitions are carrying. Now, this shouldn't be that extreme. That's one of the things to understand. What I pointed out earlier, the standard of the arms for an alliance dictate that the munitions should be consistent from one manufacturer to the next. There are variations in... The burn may be more rapid, the powder may be different, the burn may be more rapid, but for individual round performance it should be consistent. But I'll say something, you know, we were running Browning 1919 A6s. And we had a quantity of Canadian volume, I've mentioned this many times. Now guys, we're using these Ot-6s in, they were, forgive me, they were 30 Ot-6s, Browning 1919A6s. We would go from linking the US ball ammo to the Canadian ammo, and the cyclic rate increased by 200 rounds per minute. The burn, the nature of the powder that was being used, and the Canadian Ot-6 ammunition, by the way, built during World War II and then for Korea, comparatively was a hotter powdered, but now the point of impact was the same, changed the cyclic rate with regard to how quickly the weapon would fire. And you could tell when we hit the string of 200 rounds of Canadian, the moment that the changeover took place, the cyclic rate increased. It's like the difference between not quite an MG 42, because it's still way below that. But the increase was so significant, you'd swear another gun was firing. Just a little heads up. Now, Point of Impact did not change. This is what was fascinating about this. So again, it's a significantly different powder. It's a significantly different powder. I know what it is. Go ahead. What you've been saying is it's the guy he's... Exactly. Well, the other consideration here is even with pistol ammunition because... and most people are quite familiar with that and certainly should be familiar with the idea of the theories and the application issues we're talking about with rifle. But in each case you do need to test it out especially if you're going to buy a bulk quantity of ammunition which you should be thinking about right now. Guys, buying a pallet of ammo isn't as expensive as you think and to be quite honest it was a choice between maybe buying a new car or a used car and taking the savings and difference and going and buying more ammo. I'd buy the used car and be buying more ammo right now. There's some interesting conversations a lot of us have had here in the last several weeks about what we see and how things are escalating and the confusion they're creating. And I do not doubt that, again, they're always hoping that some other, quote unquote, catch us by surprise. And that just isn't going to happen. In fact, there's a really flat line, flat-eyed attitude about everybody out here. And I'm finding it's pretty consistent. The hairball socialists are being the hairball socialists. But everybody else has kind of had enough of what they're hearing and seeing, and there's a general attitude that we're just going to have to deal with this. So again, since we are, we better get really good at what we're doing fast. Your learning curve is going to be very dramatic no matter what, but we can soften many of the problems that develop by dealing with the issues in advance so that we have a better understanding of how to make our weapons work to the best of their potential. You know, your ability has to match the potential of the weapon. It has the potential to perform to a certain degree, but you need to acquire the ability to be able to take advantage of that potential. And that's where practice, practice, practice. I also have to emphasize, as I said earlier, Airsoft, and I don't, I haven't mentioned that enough recently again, there are some really good buys. Airsoft GI, Airsplat, It's got some really good deals right now, but they're not the only company out there. But they are a pretty good company for having reasonable prices. There are a bunch of AR and AR-15, M14, any of the pistols that you probably are carrying right now. There are excellent metal examples that are virtually indistinguishable from the actual firearm. And you should be able to match up the weapon you're personally selected. In the AR-15, I'm going to tell you guys, you can buy any AR-15 you're building right now. And laying that AR side by side with your AR that's the actual rifle, most people it would be virtually impossible for them to identify the difference. That's how good these Airsoft systems are. Now again, ammunition, we need that for the war effort. But we still need to get on the range and we need to get on some kind of training cycle in order for us to continue to improve in performance. And the airsoft rifle is the solution. The young guy that was here the other day, he's got an M14. Guys, you can pull M14s, wooden stock, plastic stock, your choice, but virtual identical, all metal construction to the M14 that you probably have purchased. Is it going to go boom the same way? No. But it is going to give you the ability to continue to develop greater muscle memory, muscle coordination, sight alignment, trigger control and performance. And yes, there are different grades of weapons, but the all-metal models that are out there are under a couple hundred dollars. They're an optimal training device. and they work really well considering the performance cost to get you on the range where you need to be, when you need to be there. And then again, advancing to your small arms when you can afford the expense, well, you've got that much more stick time. Pilot's going to tell you that it isn't worth getting up there and jumping behind the stick of a Cessna and getting up in the air. I'll fly jets, why would I want to? Oh, you hell, if you get any flight time and all flight time is good flight time. Period. So it's nonsense for someone to open their face about, you know, all these other training aids. The one thing that I am fascinated by is, and I don't know if that's kind of been hindered a bit, but Airsoft was starting to move full circle back towards Metal BB. In other words, there's a bunch of Airsoft type weapons that are actually basically just your CO2 pistol reinvented me. We've gone to CO2 with airsoft pellet plastic, but now we're starting to see the metal, all metal, CO2 propelled or green gas propelled, 177 caliber weapons. 177, and the way they're trying to argue is using them for airsoft the same way you would conventional airsoft. You know, that old story from, you know, the Christmas story. You'll shoot your eye out! Well, of course, if they could argue that with the plastic pellet, I can't see them not being able to argue about the 177 BB, okay? However, the advantage is lots of pellet out there either way, and the metal guns are comparable in terms of weight. The 177 actually has some knockdown power for a little game, I would think. I haven't had an experiment with all those completely, but the opportunity is there. Again, for cutting paper, perfect. Use your poison and again, take advantage of it. Plug into the technology and then get on down the road and get to the range. In fact, here's the thing. With Airsoft or with the BB, that range can be under your feet, down in the basement. It can be out in the garage. It can be in the backyard. Just out of sight, out of mind. That way, and don't let anybody know what you're doing other than those who are like-minded. And when you do practice, be quiet about it. And nobody will have a clue that you are, with every day, adding hours of performance to your inventory. Your, you know, brain basket category, you know, muscle memory, and again, shooter development. And yes, handgun, shotgun, and rifle are all available in Airsoft. So take your pick. Another thing here real quick is the side bar because I've, you know, guys, I had an opportunity to pick up another compound bow and I should have, and I kept kicking myself in the mic and I kept kicking myself in the rumpus because it was a decent compound bow for about $20. Now is it a target master, anything like that? No. But guys, again, being able to put a shaft down range with that kind of energy, there are other applications than just shooting at, you know, either bipets or quadrupets. There are other applications and uses for bows. In fact, I'd never pass up a bow and I did this time. Fortunately, I might be able to access it in the next week or two anyway because as long as somebody else hasn't snagged it, it'll be sitting right where it was left. Any time you can continue to add compound bows, crossbows, pistol bows to your inventory, keep doing so. The big thing is keep watching for those inexpensive or cheap shafts to build up your ammunition inventory, which is a high priority. Um, ammunition accumulation is an issue. Go ahead. I'm looking for a- not a part, for an M1A? Uh, well, it's e-circoinc.com. Write them already? Places. Looking for one that- Well, okay, now here's the option. Go check Apex Gun Parts. They've been- the new boy's on the block, but you need to call him. They're not necessarily gonna have it listed on the page. They- it's like all these parts companies. They have a lot of other stuff sitting there, but you gotta give them a call. If he did you call E-Sarco I would call them because Sarco they'll go they'll catch him with whoever the specialist is He'll be out there running around the box and you can hear him while he's out in the warehouse That's the least traditionally how they've operated so when you say you want something you're gonna describe it to him and he'll go looking in the parts bin Category for the weapon you're interested in and they'll actually pull it and talk to you while they're doing it. Yeah, that's a That'd be Sarco, that'd be one. But the other one, here's none, don't forget, what a country! Okay? www.whataccountry.com Again, check their page, but you probably have to call them about that. Now, they're over on the California side, but they do have a lot of odds and ends stuff on the shelf because they've got a big connection with the Israelis, and the Israelis got all those goodies back in the past, and chances are it's what you're going to see in an inventory there. Stuff that we gave them and they're selling back to us. I need a wrench so I can make another M21 parts on it Rocco first because circle is for that and then numeric would be other but you got to call them I know they have a lot an extensive catalog But I still the guy's gonna know exactly what you want me and you'll know what you're looking for And those guys are pretty good. Both of those are old standbys the apex is the new kid on the block but They've been getting a lot of stuff in. I mean a lot. And you gotta really, like I said, check their page out every week just to see what new things they dragged in from wherever they're connected. They're getting to tank armor and the parts. So there's a lot of them here, all American. It's all American stuff, which means again, they're picking up things that are unique. Other than that, give JG Sales a call. I mean, it's not weird, is there a gun company? Yeah, JG Sales out of Arizona. www.jgsales.com. Show you George, JG. Give him a call and tell him what you're looking for. He's been around a long time and he deals, and he was dealing more in surplus than he is now, but he does a lot of top shop trading deals, and armor tools are one of those things that are usually in that category. Okay. and he's been around a long time. His wife passed away here a little while back, you know, but he's still in the business. And the op rod? Or am I going to have to cut one and weld one up? Oh, you mean for the 14? You mean for the M21? You're talking about the M29. And I don't have it in front of me, but there's, okay, here's the thing. There's a bunch, there's a couple of guys doing M14, or M1A, parts manufacturers as a search, and I can't off the top of my head think of the guys' names, but I called them. These are second generation M1A aficionados. They're tool and die kids, all their kids bears, they're half our age. These guys are into M1As like there's no tomorrow and they have a really good parts inventory. So you shouldn't have to make anything. In fact, they have been building new where there has been a shortage in surplus parts. and they do M21s. So if you're looking for anything affiliated to tooling it up towards the original configuration, there's a couple guys out there. But there's a set of guys. These guys own the company. And it's been a few, well, gone in a couple years. I mentioned them on the air. And I talked to them for about an hour. And they're enthusiastic. These guys are motivated. And that means they'll stick to it. And they have, I'm sure. And they also do produce base parts parts for a lot of the other companies that do M1A work. In other words, they don't just build parts themselves, but they also are doing a lot of contract work for other people. Well, no, they do M1A parts, but you're going to have to do a search. I would go do a search for M1A parts, and usually they will write-ups when they mention the company. I would just go through to find them there, but they specialize. It's what they do. They do M1A parts, M14 parts, and that's pretty much it. I think they were doing grand stocks also, and they do brand new. They were doing, and the reason I caught on to them is because I was looking for M14 synthetic stock parts, you know Vietnam era synthetic stock, you know, right jumbo stocks and they had a really great deal on the upper hand guards which were original and then they also had copies that they made that were supposed to be a little beefier so that they hold up a little better. That's a lot of chocolate brown? Yeah, exactly. Chocolate brown. A little skinnier, a little, they always seem to me to be used to Harris Sprawnier in the front with the, you know, the fore guard. But I liked them. I thought they were comfortable. You know? And I think, you know, again, they... Oh, yeah, you want to go walnut? You're going to go that way? Or go with a match... Now, these guys produce match stocks, too. That's the other thing. The kids I'm talking about, they produce everything you can think of, and if they don't, they will... They're really good. They will cross-reference you to a place if you need a certain part. In other words, they're more interested in promoting the rifle. Okay, well, we're getting out of time, so I'll back up. Very good. If I run into anything here in the next couple days, we're tied down for the moment and you're going to stay that way. But again, if I want to say Tom and something or other, but it's just not coming to me right now. And I spent a little bit, but the guys are, if you want to talk to them about what you're doing, they're enthusiastic because they like to share. So the one cool thing is if you get in a conversation, you need a, you know, hey, what about this idea? They'll give me an idea because it's what they do. You know, they'll talk about what they do. Okay? If you ain't way close with me, God... 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