April 28, 2017
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1h 10m
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Mark discussed preparedness topics including AR-15 lower receivers available at $40 each from Centrifier Systems, ammunition availability and storage strategies in the current soft firearms market, bullet casting techniques using Veryl Smith's semi-custom molds from LBT Molds, wheel weight sourcing and alloy testing for reloading, and an extended technical exploration of building ultra-lightweight drones under the FAA's half-pound weight threshold using inflatable designs or aerogel-based construction methods. He also covered practical preparedness items like LED rechargeable work lights from Aldi and discussed surveillance concerns related to domestic data collection.
- ar-15 lowers
- ammunition storage
- bullet casting
- wheel weights
- lbt molds
- drone regulations
- faa
- aerogel
- preparedness
- reloading
- firearms market
- surveillance
- self-sufficiency
- led lights
- ultralight aircraft
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What does that run right now? Well, I've got the money. You guys already pitched in the money for it. He's just trying to find the best one for the lowest price. Oh, okay. When Tiger Direct took a dump on me, I pretty much lost my bare bones kit place. Newegg has a little bit in the way of bare bones, but nothing like Tiger Dad. So you're stuck going and putting the whole system together one piece at a time and throwing it all in a cart and going, oh, oh, okay. Hey Jim. It sounds like that, you know, some of the parts that you buy by the time you get everything totally assembled in one location that some of them might not be interfaced together because of, you know, some of these things. Yeah, I'm being told guys we're at the top of the hour, unfortunately. It's not going to be a problem unless you take years to collect your parts. Oh, okay, cool. They're all coming at the same time. And I've matched them all up pretty well. So dental issues, oil pulling, dental pain, flying suits, removing amalgam fillings and computers. Woo-hoo. And we didn't give out the call-in line once, guys. I'm remiss for that. I realize somebody told me, hey, we didn't give out the call-in numbers at all of this program. I apologize for that. This is your program. We should have done it. If you're listening to us online, though, you should be able to find the conference numbers on the website but we are out of time coming up next is the intelligence report with Mark at BK it is quarters masters corner. Hi Jim! Weapons Wednesday. We'll use everything from your bare hands to your average AR-15. The 12 gauge model loader. Sure. The 45 long slide. Yeah, with laser siding. You betcha. The OOSI 9 millimeter. Yes sir. Plasma life range. 40 watt range. What are you crazy? Okay, we'll talk about that too. So whatever question you have about whatever weapon you have. Mark and Don on Weapons Wednesday. And remember, your mind is your first. Check out our website at www.libertiesguardian.com That website again is www.libertiesguardian.com Go to the website and check out our selection today. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three cornered hat and speaking low to me he said, We've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. But the Constitution is a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free, the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free, the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can be taught according to this. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seedly farm and keep our country deep. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children will be readers send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children then fear? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land. Preserve our great republic and each god given right. And pray to god to torture freedom by his right. As Iowoc he'd vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each god given right, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. He stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep. What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Dil the landed the 2017 in April It is Friday evening and the last hour of the day and the week for the intelligence report. And that makes this Quartermaster's Corner. And you can have some of ours. We've got plenty. Yesterday was the last day on the forecast that had some partial sun. And it's Seattle weather here right now. We're raining a little off and on, off and on, off and on all day. and is supposed to go on like this for several days yet. I mentioned last week that I was running around doing crazy amounts of yard work to try to satisfy the code compliance guy. I got that, at least the first wave of that done in the nick of time. I got the raking and twig patrol complete and so on just before I lost all of the weather. I sent him some photos and said, hey, I'm getting it done, but can I have some more time, please? Here's progress. And he said, yeah, OK, fine. So his job is to be a butthole, but maybe he's not going to do his job very well, and that would be good for me. He seems to be somewhat mollified by the fact that there is progress. Nonetheless, multiple days of rain is not suitable for the next phase, which is scraping paint and puttying. And I'm going to have to rebuild part of the garage door. After 50 years, I can't complain. Because 50 years of rain spattering on the pavement and bouncing up onto the garage door has finally rotted some of the wood. Can't grab too much about the original assembly quality and paint and so on of that garage door. In retrospect, I should have been applying fresh paint to it every few years just to keep the water off. But it didn't occur to me, you know. Things go on from day to day and you don't notice the day to day change until somebody whaps you up the head and says, you know, fix this and we're stuck, you know, I got to do it. So getting out there with an electric saws and cutting out bits of the wood and replacing it and putting in epoxy and paint and all that kind of good stuff requires some dry weather. So I'm off the hook for a little while for that and hopefully I'll be able to get the next phase done before the next deadline drops a little anvil on my head. But, man, this is really interfering with day-to-day life and routine operations and projects that I would prefer to be doing and so on and so forth. Oh well, life in the big city, as it were, where we are not entirely masters of our own destiny and time. So it goes, I suppose. Let's see, one of our friends mentioned something, I want to get this in before I forget. Centrifier Systems is offering magnesium AR strip blowers at 40 bucks a piece or a three pack for $100. So that's not a bad price, sometimes, you know, back before the AR ban. A bunch of people bought $60, $70, $80 lowers figuring that they'd probably never be able to buy them again. And now we can get them for $40 apiece for magnesium alloy. OK, well, the best laid plans of mice and men and all that kind of good stuff. But if you're at the stage right now where you really need to be buying lowers, that strikes me as a pretty good offer and a bargain. That's, you know, of course you have the full panoply of uppers and other parts to be added to it. Your total cost is probably going to run around $400 or so. But the whole firearms market is very, very soft right now because there was a huge buying frenzy when people thought that the Hillary the Hutt would be in the big house. And when the Donald got in a large fraction of the market, kind of heaped a great big sigh of relief and said, okay, we don't need this stuff anymore. And stopped buying suddenly. The end result of that is that the shelves at your local WALL-E, etc., now have ammo on them. The prices have not come down a lot that I have seen, but availability is in good shape. There are a lot of people I can think of that have plenty of firearms, but I can't think of too many people that have too much ammunition. I'd start to define exactly what too much ammunition is unless the floors of your house are starting to creak under the load. I would advise people that nothing stays the same forever. and availability is there now, this would be a good time to go back to chipping away and picking up a box of this and that and now and then as opportunity presents itself when you get a paycheck by a box of something. If that's the way your household operates, if you can slide that past the spousal unit or whatever your household situation might be. I'm not crazy about buying large quantities of stuff with a credit card or debit card or whatnot just because of the amount of paper trail that creates. But, you know, we are all living in a fishbowl now. People are actually starting to believe what, you know, you and I and, you know, before I got into this stuff, even you were talking about years and years and years ago about the amount of domestic surveillance that's underway. But now that it's on the television, they're starting to believe it and they're starting to realize, well, you know, gee, all their, their emails, all of their credit card transactions, all of that kind of good stuff is actually being recorded in. possibly used in some fashion, nobody knows exactly how it's being used. You can be sure that you would not approve of all of the uses it has being put to. So for that reason, I recommend local retail purchases if that's what's feasible for you, if the costs are not too awful and that sort of stuff. But even local retail has plumped up to the point that the shelves are now stocked and you can get what you need. So I would recommend getting what you need while you can. Along that line, I would like to mention something that we haven't talked about for a while. but we should probably bring it up on a fairly regular basis. You can still do bullet casting, which is a great way of coping with the cost of a full metal jacket. And one of the options, especially for rifle rounds, is our friend Verell Smith at lbtmolds.com. Now, if you have tried to access his website recently, you might end up with a parking message from GoDaddy because he used to spell his website in the traditional spelling, L-B-T-M-O-U-L-D-S dot com. It seems that he has finally knuckled under and said, okay, fine, I will go along with the semi-literate American public and use the more common spelling M-O-L-D-S. So L-B-T-Molds, M-O-L-D-S dot com is now his website. And if you try that, you will get the usual familiar website that he has had up for quite a few years. He did not do the savvy webmaster thing of retaining the old domain and pointing it to the new site. That's what an adept web person would have done. So if you try the old URL, if you've got it saved in a bookmark or whatnot and it comes up with a parking site, you might think, oh darn it, he's out of business. No, he's not out of business. He just went ahead and changed the URL to LBT. That's limo bravo tango molds, m-o-l-d-s dot com. and that's the website we're familiar with. Now, what Veroal does is he makes bullet molds in a semi-custom fashion. That is, you can't get something totally outright, but you can specify the exact diameter you want, the weight you want, nose profile, that kind of stuff, and he will set up a semi-profile cut for you. His molds are individually cut on a sort of a CNC machine. He uses mechanical templates and a tracing lathe that he built. but is sort of the same thing as CNC for all practical purposes. You will get a much more precisely formed mold that way than from the cherry cut process that the mass producers use. This will be a little bit more expensive than a Seiko or something, but not by as much as you might think. And I have seen his molds and I am impressed with the quality of the work. So I recommend those. You can order one, two, or four cavity for rifle purpose. I would say the sweet spot is probably the two cavity mold because that will double your production without sending your cost through the rough. A four cavity mold, sometimes people have a hard time keeping all four cavities at the same temperature, but two is usually not a problem. If you take a look at Spike's website, That is indianafreedomtalkradio.com, the same website where our archives are kept. You will find a PDF transcript of an interview we had with Viral a few years ago discussing this stuff. One of our friends made a transcript of that entire interview, removed all of the ums and ahs and other verbal noise from BK, so I sound like an actual... Sorry about that. I had a kitty that fell from a high spot. Hold on. Roll sideways and fell asleep. I had to catch her before she hit the ground. Okay, fine. So, one of our friends made a transcript of that interview, removing all the noise and junk, and old BK actually sounds like a professional radio interviewer if you read the transcript. I don't recommend that you actually pull up the audio because I don't sound nearly as smooth or urbane in the real audio as I do in the transcript. But we discuss all of this technology, the machining processes and so on to a pretty good depth. That transcript is available on Spike's site. It just says the Veryl Smith interview transcript or something along those lines right there on the front page at indianafreedomtalkradio.com. So that will give you a good view into that available technology. And one of the things we discussed particularly on that interview was the technology of paper-patched bullets. That is an old technique that was in use during the Civil War. It is not used now because it's not convenient for the mass production, but the performance is much greater than you would think. Basically, you can fire almost any alloy you want. down a barrel if you're using a paper patch and you can get FMJ velocities out of that without any leading and without the bullet disintegrating in the barrel or any of that stuff as long as there is a paper patch around it. That's not hard to do. You just do it by cutting strips of paper and you know, mixing, you know, diluting some Elmer's glue and applying it. It's a little bit more handwork but not a great deal. and you can avoid the gas checks and the leading problems and all that kind of good stuff. The other thing I would remind people of is that since the wave of metal moth thing a while back, it has become harder to do. But if you can get your hands on wheel weights, that is the ideal alloy for the purpose. Be advised that a lot of the wheel weights that you're going to encounter now are zinc. and you will therefore have to sort your metal to see whether that's the case. If you're not sure whether one is lead or zinc, you can either do a very gentle job of melting a known alloy and then put fresh weights in there. The ones that float and don't melt are zinc and you can scoop them out. Or you can try to cut them with a tin snip and if they are lead, they will dent very easily. And if they are zinc, they will resist the tin snip. There are other ways of doing that. One of the things I will point out is if you're working in a basement or something with concrete around you can just tap them on the concrete and you can tell by the sound. or maybe even by the density by feel. And with experience you can pretty much spot them manually. But, you know, there are different methods you can use. There's a certain amount of mythology circulating. One of them is you get three atoms of zinc in the pot and the whole melt is ruined. Well, I asked Viral about that. And what he says is, no, you get a tiny amount of zinc in there, it's not going to be a big show stopper. It's possible to have too much. The test is very simple. You simply cast a bullet. with the suspect alloy if you don't trust it. And then when it's all done and cool and everything, you put it in your bench vise and you give it a squeeze. And if it smooshes, it's okay. And if it crumbles, you've got too much zinc in it and you're going to have to use it for fishing weights or something. But, you know, that's basically all it takes. It's just mush one and see how it behaves. If it crumbles, it's got too much zinc in it. If it does not crumble, then you're okay. So. What you want to do about that, whether you want to dilute it into more good alloy or whether you just want to set it to the side for some other use, that's your decision. Do try to avoid as much zinc as you possibly can. But wheel weights remain a highly desirable alloy if you can get them. Last time I tried to get some, I was having a harder and harder time, the big chain tire stores all say, no you can't have them, we've got a contract with a recycler, blah blah blah. The little guys got accustomed to the idea of people coming around with cash and paying them for them, and Metal Boss are making money on that. The going price last I heard was about $20 for a 5 gallon pail, which is over 100 pounds. They may be higher than that, but figure what's 100 pounds of metal do as far as bullets. You can cast an awful lot of bullets from that, even if you're only getting 60 or 70 pounds of actual meltable alloy when you count the zinc and the steel clips and a certain amount of trash and things of that sort. That's still an awful lot of bullets compared to what it costs to buy a full metal jacket from the factory. And if you have a few molds and you have 100 pounds of alloy, you don't have to decide right now how many you want to be in this caliber and how many you want to be in that caliber because you can make them as you need them. So, you know, you stock up some of this and some of that. And if you find that you changed your mind, you can throw bullets back in the melting pot and make the other caliber. So it is worthwhile having that equipment on hand. Once again, I recommend Veral Smith for semi-custom molds. He does excellent work. I'm very pleased with the molds that he produces. The cost is reasonable for what you're getting. That is LBT. That's Lima Bravo Tango Molds. M-O-L-D-S. dot com has changed away from the traditional spelling that had a U in it. So if you've got a bookmark, do not be dismayed if the bookmark does not work. It has just slightly changed the URL. And I will refer everybody to that transcript on IndianaFreedomTalkRadio.com. to get a more thorough discussion of this topic right there in PDF form so you can read that at your leisure comments. I guess not. Another item I was out shopping a few days ago at the Aldi store, I always go through their miscellaneous merchandise aisle just to see what's there. The way Aldi's works is that they have some sometimes interesting stuff They get a load in, they sell it out, and that's that. They do not want to have a bunch of stuff lying around taking time to sell. So what they do is they sell off a batch, and they let it go out of stock, and then they wait for a long while before they bring anything back. Similar, let the demand recover. So, one of the things I picked up, they have, once again, they have little, you know, photoelectric solar yard lights at a buck and a half or so a piece. That's not a bad option. I find that these things don't last forever. The batteries die. But you can, you know, open them up, replace the batteries and so on. I have some one dollar units I got from a dollar store a while back. Been meaning to solder in a photocell that I have to compensate with a semi-shaded spot to see whether I can beef those guys up and get them operational again. But there are too many projects queued up and as I mentioned other demands on my time right now keeping me away from my preferred projects. However, One thing they had that I picked up that I was really pleased with, they have some LED trouble lights. These are, the large devices are about an inch and a half in diameter and maybe, what, 14 inches long, something along those lines. For $10, they have a 3 watt LED rechargeable trouble light. The sort of thing that you would hang under your hood while you're working at night. That's the primary intended use of these. They contain a rechargeable lithium battery. I've not pulled one open, but I'd be willing to bet money that it is an 18650 battery in there. That's a standard size. It sounds about right from the specs they specified. It comes with a wall wart unit for charging and a cigar lighter. adapter as well. So that's all in the blister pack so you can run it off your vehicle's electrical system or from the wall. You can run it directly off of either those sources indefinitely or you can simply charge it up based on the specifications. I haven't run one flat yet, but based on the specs, I should run for about an hour and a half, two hours or so on that battery. These things are rated at 3 watts and they do put out a great deal of light. Interestingly, it is a large area LED emitter even though it's only 3 watts. You can get little pocket flashlights that are 3 watts. They are largely a point source. The quality of light is actually somewhat better if you have a large area emitter. And this one is a half an inch wide and a few inches long, so the light is not nearly as intense, even though it does put out a good volume of it. Now they do not describe these as being waterproof. If you wanted to make them somewhat waterproof or water resistant or rain resistant or whatnot, you would probably have to go to work with a little roll of electric tape. and seal up some of the seams. The plus side is that it's not very heavy, it's not all heavy plastic armored with gaskets all over the place and all this kind of good stuff. Just a good practical lightweight lamp. If you wanted, as I said, to seal it, you'd probably have to go to work with either the silicone caulk or some electric tape or whatnot. But it's a very nice package for a measly 10 bucks. You get a very practical light with a battery in it with the two adapters, one for wall use and one for lighter socket use. And it does have a little extendable hook on the end and a magnet on the back. It's push button's got two intensities. If you run it at lower intensity, presumably it will run longer. I have not tested that out, but so far the amount of playing I have done with one of the ones I bought I am quite pleased with it. Being at Aldi, of course, you can expect that within a week or two they'll be gone. So if you're interested in those, nip on dead on there now and grab one or two. I'm quite pleased with the one I got. Comments? Multi-service functions as far as prepared stuff fairly rapidly. I've had sitting on the shelf for a while, I thought I would run out. This is not a project that I plan to do. But I thought I'd toss the idea out and maybe somebody else would care to pick it up and run with it. A while back we talked about how the FAA has created a bunch of regulations to restrict drones and restrict is very much the key word. They have said, well, anything over a half a pound. First you had to get a drone registration number for all of your drones and mark all of your little drones with your number. It didn't cost anything and so on. And the massive fines if you don't do it. And then the second wave, they came in with a bunch of operating regulations that are highly restrictive. You can't operate them before dawn or after dusk. You've got to maintain, you know, a stay under a 400-foot ceiling. You can't fly them over any person anywhere, you know, on and on and on. And the usual BS and excuses about, oh, well, somebody might use them for trespassing. Well, if somebody's using them for trespassing, then prosecute them under trespassing. But according to the rules, you can't fly a drone even tethered on your own property without a registration number and blah, blah, blah, lots of stuff. Now, there are a lot of approaches we can take. One approach is go ahead and comply with all the rules, no matter how ridiculous they may be. Another one is to wave your middle finger at the rules and say, go pound sand. We might dance around them a little bit. You might get a number, but the militia drones are marked differently from the practice drones. There's a lot of different options we might take, but there's an option that a lot of people haven't thought about. The weight limit on these things is a half a pound. So basically they're saying if you want to buy one of these little $20 toys at the toy department of your store, don't worry about it. We're not interested in those. Well, we might take that half pound threshold as a technical challenge and say, what can we do within a half pound weight budget. The idea of course being that, well this is impossible for us to accomplish, but maybe it's not so impossible. Consider what it would weigh if we built a drone that is basically an inflatable aircraft. a model aircraft that's, you know, two, three foot wingspan, something along those lines. This would be pretty ambitious to do from a design point of view. But consider the little inflatable toys that have been built from sheet vinyl and so on. And imagine what you might do if you built something like that that's designed to actually be inflatable so that it weighs practically nothing. And then you proceed to put some controls in it, a Pi Zero. Raspberry Pi Zero is a single board computer. It's about an inch by three inches. It has more than enough computing capability. to operate a little drone, to read a GPS module, a magnetic compass, a timer, that kind of stuff. Turn things on and off, do a little bit of battery and motor management and so on. A lightweight device like that would not need a great deal of power in the motor in order to keep it flying and being able to maintain at least a few miles per hour airspeed even against a breezed. and ignore the payload for the time being while you're flying around practicing and in theory some credential goon might approach you and insist that you demonstrate that you are below the weight limit and so on. Should it be deployed in the field then you add a payload which might be say a camera or something along those lines. Perhaps that'll push you over the half pound. But that situation is different for practice purposes. You could certainly just weight one up to nearly the half pound threshold just to see how it performs. But if it were built, say, out of thin plastic sheeting and made inflatable, then when it's deflated it would be a really tiny package and somebody's backpack, you could have a half dozen of them in your backpack and pull one out. and blow it up like a kid's toy and insert a battery and away you go. Another possibility, and this is a little bit different from an engineering point of view, is suppose we built one of these things out of aerogels. Now, aerogels are hideously expensive at this point. Big solid chunks of them, but they are a fascinating material. They are so light, so low density, that they have been described as liquid smoke. Solid chunks of these things will float around in your room, and don't take them outside and let go of them because you'll lose them. Not because they are lighter than air. They are in fact heavier than air and will sink in still air, but the small Air currents that are in your house naturally are enough to lift these things up and they'll blow around like a helium balloon. They are that light and yet they are fairly strong. Now, buying solid chunks of aerogels is ridiculously expensive at this point. It is prohibitive, only ridiculously rich people could actually build drones out of the stuff. It would be nice if we could and the cost is slowly coming down, but it's going to be a while. On the other hand, it is possible to buy aerogel relatively cheaply if you don't need it in big chunks. Specifically, you can buy aerogel beads by the gallon at reasonable cost. There's an outfit called UnitedNuclear.com that will sell you a five-gallon pail of aerogel beads for about $400. That sounds expensive, but when you think about it and consider the amount that it would take to fill the volume of, say, a model aircraft, that's not too much. So if you built, say, an aircraft out of very, very thin plastic in the proper shape, and it were feasible to just fill it with these aerogel beads to maintain stiffness, that might be an approach. It would add almost nothing to the weight of the device and yet would give it considerable rigidity. Another possibility, suppose we sprayed a sheet of material with an aerosol adhesive and then poured the beads over that and recovered all the ones that did not stick. and then let that adhesive dry and then did it again and created a few layers of this stuff, you would have a skinned material with a coating of arrow gel that is stuck together by the adhesive and might form a useful engineering material. You might be able to create a mold of a wing and a fuselage and so on, coat that with some sort of plastic material and cure it. Say you've got the exterior form and then do the same sort of thing. Apply to it a spray or you know fill it and dump it out with some sort of thin adhesive. Fill it with the aerogel, let the adhesive cure and then dump out the unnecessary aerogel. See how your shell is, see if you've got an adequate thickness, if not do it again, build up a couple of layers. You could end up with a completely hollow form of an aeronautic shape that weighs practically nothing and is perhaps very strong and light. Whether that would work or not, I don't know. That would require experiment. But the approach occurred to me. Another thought is that some of these aerogels tend to be very absorptive of liquids like water and alcohols and so on, so they say that adhesives don't work very well on them. On the other hand, water and alcohol-based adhesives are not the only game in town. For example, The stereolithography people, the ones who do rapid prototyping with a polymer that light cures, you expose it to ultraviolet and it solidifies, these people are catching on. It's still fairly expensive technology, but it's kind of an interesting approach, a competitor to the filament deposition, CAM operations. That is becoming a sufficiently large market that other vendors are coming into the market providing the fluids. One of them is called Spot A Materials. Spot S-P-O-T-A Materials. You can Google for that. They are an outfit in Spain. They have a very wide range of materials that they have tinkered together for different models of these stereolithography machines. And some of them are fairly inexpensive on the order of 60 or 70 euros per liter, which sounds like a lot until you think about what you can accomplish with a liter of the stuff. Now, that perhaps thinned it down a little bit so it becomes a very sprayable substance might be an interesting adhesive for the purpose. Remember, this stuff is blue light or ultraviolet light cured. So if you sprayed that on a surface, it's going to remain gooey indefinitely until such time as it sees significant ultraviolet light. So you sprayed that on the interior of a mold, you filled the mold full of aerogel, and then you take it outdoors into the sunlight or apply an ultraviolet light to the exterior to cure that adhesive. And then pour out the loose aerogel beads that did not get glued in and see what kind of a construct you end up with. Maybe you'd want to do it more than one layer, you know, two or three layers, perhaps. Depends on how well that sticks. I don't know whether that would work, but it might work. And if it does work, it might be a very interesting technique. You would end up with an airfoil shape, a fuselage shape, all of this kind of good stuff that you wanted. Perhaps you might end up with a thing an eighth or a quarter of an inch thick and hollow, which gives you some place to put your batteries in your control board and all this kind of good stuff. And yet a very, very rigid form that weighs practically nothing. So almost all of your weight budget is is available for your little motor and motor controls and battery and things of that sort. You might be able to build a very, very competent platform within your half pound budget. And if you have done that, then you could haul around a bushel of these things in a transit case that one or two people could easily carry. These would not be as compact as something that was inflatable that you could blow up in the field and set going. That's a different approach, and it might or might not prove the better approach, depending on how difficult it is to make an inflatable that has aerodynamic properties suitable for the job. But this rigid structure made of the arrow gel beads might be an interesting approach as well. So anybody who wants to experiment, there are a couple of techniques that might be worth investigating. The UV curing material is intended as a structural material, but I think that we could probably use it as an adhesive combination, adhesive and structural material. and the aerogel beads provide volume with considerable strength and almost zero weight if we are creative about how we use those. So there's a direction that somebody might investigate if somebody wants to experiment. I would be very happy to hear what your results are. But there are two approaches there, an inflatable and an aerogel shell. There are other uses for this aerogel material. Some of the mountaineers are always looking for better, lighter, stronger materials because they want to be able to carry, you know, Edmund Hillary's equipment pack, but have it weigh 30 pounds instead of 300 pounds, that sort of thing. One of the things that people are using these aerogel beads for is for insulated clothing. Aerogel is an incredibly effective insulator. One of the things people are doing is they're using that as the filling in quilted cold weather clothing. They are finding that it's an extremely effective insulator. As a cold weather approach, we have made snow suits out of foam rubber. People have done that with closed cell dense foam. But another approach we might look at is making quilted garments and you know a kidney belt something along those lines with some of this aerogel bead trapped within it instead of something like you know feathers or the synthetic yarns that are commonly used etc. The aerogel seem to have a lot of potential. in that area as well. So if the aircraft project fails, you can tell the wifey, oh well, I'm interested in making quilted insulated clothing to keep you warm, honey, and maybe your life will be spared. So there's a fallback approach to acquiring a $400 pail of interesting material. Be very careful when you open a pail of aerogel beads because if somebody sneezes, this can be all over the house. That stuff is practically like water. They come everywhere. Yeah, it weighs nothing and it's going to blow all over the place and you're not going to be able to retrieve those beads. You may be able to vacuum them, but they're gone. So be very careful when you open the pail and don't work with it outside because one gust of breeze and half your pail is gone. You know, very interesting material. Comments or thoughts? We had another caller. I just heard him on the call. Go ahead. Yeah, Georgetown, Texas. I didn't see here like years ago some of the broadcasts of Wet Nair Pants. Oh my god, the other side's got drones that are pretending to be mockingbirds or flies or something like that to spy on you and all that stuff. You know, it's just kind of laughable. I mean, I hope I can catch one of them things. The biggest problem that they had going worked in the performance and durability. The problem is, ultra-light aircraft, you play tested two shoes there. With a little micro aircraft machining something with actual wings and airfoil and aerodynamic performance. If it's lightweight enough, then you just have to pull it through the air. You really don't have to generate very much lift, right? No, the big thing is, with little or no wind activity, centralize and minimize any internal reinforcing components so that it, like you said, we're ultra- to be acceptable to more.