Mark and Don discussed weapons technology, preparedness, and Second Amendment issues on the evening of February 22, 2017. They covered thermal and night vision optics specifications, including lens options, pixel density, and cyclic rates for thermal devices. The hosts addressed a caller's question about thermal device performance during recoil and explained barrel whip and stock design effects on felt recoil. They promoted computer donations to Joe McNeil's operation in Idaho affected by power grid issues, provided detailed information on Para Ordnance firearm parts and magazines available through Sarco Inc., and discussed the importance of sourcing orphaned gun parts from specialty suppliers. The episode concluded with commentary on a Federal Appeals Court ruling regarding assault weapons and Second Amendment protections.
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We're not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each god-given right, we only watch and tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave, dill the land to the free? Operate. Repeat, repeat, repeat to get it finally unmuted there. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. This is the evening intelligence report. And I'm Don Dutcher. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines at occupied territory south, southwest, central, and east. Ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on the Petri Radio Dot stations, CB base stations, and UltraNet in west of the Mississippi, along with I'll tell you what, it's back like it wants to rain, it still is not quite piddling. It's just on the edge. It's been like this all day. It's like you go outside and you're like, man, it feels like it wants to. The humidity is up. It's sitting in the air, but it's just, eh, quite there. So it's going to be like that all through the evening. Good thing temperatures haven't changed. Pretty well consistent from what it was all through the day because the cloud cover's low. Not what's like in your neck of the woods. What's the day today? It was jumping off the wall, please. Well hey, it's the 22nd day of February, year of our Lord 2017. It's dark out, and if I look toward the sky, you can hardly see a star, so I'm pretty certain that there's a lot of clouds up there. But, at any rate, again, the 22nd day of February 2017, strike down the middle of the week, so you know what's next. 1911, in one hand, with an empty magazine well, and a full magazine in the other hand, and... We just... the magazine and the magazine well and touch that slide release and man, now there's one in a chamber, that's a hot gun, that's a condition one gun, but we can tell you it is. Weapons, one's data perimeter needs some attention and as I reach for that other bullet and top off this magazine, you can repeat after me, if you're pulling a lever on that reloader, there's plenty more where that came from. And we can offer equal opportunity, coercive force. I've got a couple things I want to touch on real quick here. And a reminder, you had a question that Don had to take off, and I am going to reintroduce here in a moment. First of all, Joe McNeil needs our help. He's had more than a couple computers that went down because of a power surge out there on the rock. They've been having a lot of troubles with the grid out there, even though, and it's really interesting, part of the snow storm is part of it because of the whole stuff going on with the mid California and Oregon dam network and their power supply issues. It doesn't mean the other dams can't handle it, but there's all kinds of goofy stuff going on with the systems all through the Rockies where the rest of the hydro power is. And it supplies to all of the country. It may be in Idaho, but you've probably had power delivered through the grid to you all the way out to Wisconsin from Idaho or all the way down to Texas, all the way over to California. A lot of the stuff electricity they generate in Idaho goes right down the grid to Los Angeles, San Diego, all the way to San Antonio, you name it guys. It's an interlocking grid so there's a bunch of stuff going on there. Anyway, we found a Dell desktop computer through www.newegg.com. That's N-E-W-E-G-G dot com. Newegg dot com. It's exactly what we need for out there. They're not that expensive. They're $125 approximately a piece. There's going to be some shipping on that. But if you can see it in your heart to donate one of these machines or a couple of these machines to the Micro Effect, this would help a great deal. I'm going to repeat the serial number. First of all, go to www.newegg.com. That's new, N-E-W-E-G-G dot com. N-E-W-E-G-G dot com. Newegg.com. When you get there, the item number is, and it's long, so pay attention and we'll repeat it three times. It's N821688315833. Repeat, that's N for November. 82 as in echo. 5833, again that's as in November. 168831. five eight three seven and again that's at www.newegg.com if you can donate a computer go to the web page you're going to be donating exactly what they need this is the way to do this one hundred twenty five dollars approximately uh... and there will be some shipping i didn't see if there was free shipping on those i didn't notice it but that doesn't mean there isn't find out uh... and he'd be sending it to joe mcmeal two two one one woodland Road, again that's Joe McNeil, 11, Woodland Road, 36, 36. Joe McNeil, 2211, Woodland Road, Kamiye, Idaho, 83533. Sounds of cool stuff going on there right now of course. We're trying to deal with it with the two computers they have. They are making things work, but guys, let's get over this hump real quick. Do what we can. I've got a pile of hard drives I'm sending out. If not tonight, it'll be tomorrow. and also some other computers and equipment basically just frames with hard drives and with some RAM on board. These are support to add to whatever they've got. The model that we are looking at is the 755, the Optiplex 755 by Dell. And again, the model is already, everything's there that we need on board. RAM, hard drive, everything's cleaned up, these are refurbished. They're good enough for what we're doing. We don't need a terabyte system. We don't need any of the latest for $3,000. We are going to eventually have to upgrade, but in the meantime, these systems will make these system work. You know, if you buy five of these, six ideally, we have two standbys and then two standbys and two ready to roll on the shelf. What happens on a regular basis, or There we go, he parachuted in. Yeah, he's stuck in the trees though, down valley, and I can't find him. Oops. Or the moon. Yeah, that's embarrassing. Yeah, the bag of money's gone. No, it's not. Somebody found it over there. Shh, shh, shh. Nobody found the money. Anyway, you know that works. If they did find the money, the smart person would never say anything, right, Don? Look what fell out of this guy. I think I'll be real quiet now. Anyway, for everybody out there, again, if you want to give them a call, If you have any questions, 208-935-0094, 08935-0094, 08935-0094. Now, we had a night vision question, and I thought you were still there for a moment longer, and I asked it, well, I'm going to do it again. Had this clock come in, and I really couldn't answer it for sure, because each system might be a little different. We slapped that thermal device on top of our 308, or on top of our 223. We're looking at a target, Don. we pull the trigger do we have the does the system wink out or does it is it is does recoil affect it in any way that can be physically seen I mean does it blank for a second and re-register or anything like that because I couldn't answer that one so go ahead jump in there give us an overview on that please now if you're shooting green screen and you don't have any sort of a muzzle flash hider and you've got a good hot load in there, you're going to see that flame in front. The device will shut off for an instant, like blinking your eye. Now, because it's digital, sometimes for an instant it will pixelate, just for an instant, across the duration of the recoil, even less than that. You might see some... You can go to... YouTube, and we should offer up some examples of this in the not too distant future, but right now you can go over to YouTube and see some people shooting the thors and that little dinky little bit of pixilation that happens immediately at the, and it's gone, you almost don't witness it. Okay, but it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen in green screen, this is why we encourage you if you're shooting green screen to have a flash hider, a cone type, nothing that squirts a big hunk of flame straight up or out to two sides and kind of straight up into your field of vision. So the digital suffers ever so slightly from the recoil. It'll pixelate for an instant. You might see three or you might see 40 little dots for an instant. I'm literally for an instant for like one or three cycles and three cycles being what, 15th of a second? Something like that at any rate. That's a good question. Thank you. The reason is, again, I couldn't answer that because I have seen systems where when recoil, it's like the protection system against light, where it would, you could actually re-index and shut down, or actually it would basically like blank out and then re-register. It would interfere with following the shot. But it's something that could be lived with if it's part of the you know the whole process of the you know the technology I would assume we're past that but you never know I mean you're looking at felt recoil If you think about firearms, you know, we don't even think about it when we pull the trigger But guys you've ever seen the slow-mo picture of an AK firing and you know fully automatic or rapid fire The barrel have you ever looked watch the barrel? If you ever watch the whole fight, even on an M14 or on an AR-15, although it's not as prevalent to be, you know, not as easily witnessed with the M14. But with all of the light rifles, the ARs and the AKs, you can physically see the result of the energy released through the system. You literally see parts wobbling or, you know, the barrels literally moving. I mean, if you have the camera properly set, and the gun is rested and there's no doubt you can register what's going on. Well that shockwave is going through the whole gun. It's called barrel whip. Yeah, and it's the thing is that it's what we call felt recoil from our end. We get a percentage of it but we feel it in a different way because Remember, it's also traveling in a wave effect, so we don't feel it as one just simple thrust. And what we really prefer is when we feel it over a longer period of time, but with less energy at any given point. There might be a spike. See, that's why people like, you know, all the... it kind of tugs like a shotgun. And, you know, because shotguns are low pressure, high velocity. And the other thing is that, yeah, they really don't bite that much. Now you start getting up in a high velocity, big bore, heavy guns. you start to notice that maybe that recoil pad would be there for a reason if you put it back on the rifle. Oh! Oh, that let me know this is a big bore. This is something that's got some energy behind it. And that again is a matter of the whole math formula of energy applied, weight of the weapon, the design of the weapon and the design of the action and the barrel system, but also the stock, which actually translates that energy back. This is why There's a really goofy video on YouTube, and by the way guys, if they believe you stupid Arabs would be really dumb, no they're not. The guy built intentionally a wrong-combed rifle. He built a big, more rifle like in 458 something. and you see this, it was floating around for a while, it's on YouTube still I'm sure and all these people are brought into this gun shop and try this rifle, it's a men's rifle, it's a big rifle and everybody puts their shoulder behind it but there isn't anybody who doesn't get bit by it. No matter who you are, you would. Typically when you start going up, remember this is why we put muzzle compensators on guns, guys. It's why if you try to fire a 55 boys, you can shoot a 55 boys without the compensator. but you won't do it too many times in a row. Now part of the reason is the nature of the design without the compensator. The stock system translates the energy straight to the shooter to the rear. If the shooter is not instructed, then he's going to get hurt by the gun every time. When you watch this video, if you look at the comb and look at the angle and the design of the buttstock and the grip area, the comb angle, the taper, You'll notice it's very, very weird looking. It's kind of straight. Well, there's a reason for that. That helps to translate that energy straight back to the shooter. Whereas if you look at the pitch and angle and, again, the cone, the correct direction of the cone of the rifle, all of that, or shotgun, all of that helps to change the direction. It does intentionally bring the muzzle up, and it pivots the gun on its own center. allowing for part of the energy to be taken up and extracted or translated over a longer wave rather than all at once and in a very focused manner. So that was that. I hate it when I see things like that. When you use a little bit of Arab sound to make guns, they can kill you dead or in a door nail. They kill lots of people with guns. Everybody does. Anybody who knows how to make guns typically figures out to make them really well real fast. And they do funny goofy things over there just like we do funny goofy things over here and anywhere else on the planet. People have fun anywhere. And then you have people do this make stupid comments. Who's gonna lose dummies? They don't know. No, it was a comedy video. It was one of those things where, you know, two things you could do. Change the stock and put a muggle compensator on a big bore gun like that. And everybody go to town on it all day and not think twice. It would be a very dull video. Except for the fact that you have fun shooting the rifle. Hello. And we got a caller. Who do we have? I just wanted to get this in real quick before we started $9, which would be interchangeable. That's where you've got to see what the parts are because where the change is is in the base frame construction because the ordnance pistol is a staggered magazine feed. uh... other than that now they're now i got to take that back as there's another consideration remember that there are several that are nineteen eleven based and single-action and there are some pair ordinance models that are double-action what they've got is what they're calling a para fifty cents what pages are on again it's on the it's on the main page just scroll the web page a couple more times for everybody yeah that's sorry well the reason i know because yeah i was wondering if it might be because he still has the old page running too yeah these individual pieces. They got the hammer pin, what that means, a king cam pin, I guess, and then they have the most of their part. That's what I know. Okay. I'm looking at it right now here. See no more. See, as you know, Para is no more. Okay. So they're gone. Sarcos purchased all the remaining spare parts for, uh, from Para. We have assessed our inventory and can afford to give away, give you a, I don't know why they went out of business. Other than maybe just, I mean, I never heard of either. No, that doesn't make any sense to me. Other than maybe some BS lawsuits or whatever ticking away at them. Otherwise, very popular and very serviceable guns. The big thing is, see, they also have the in the rough frames. They bought these years ago. If you go to 1911 parts, firearms and receivers, let's see everything else, where do all the gun parts go? If you go down through the gun parts, they have Yeah, let's see, Para Ordnance, well now they're listing them separate. Ooh, they've gone up in price. And I told you guys to buy them for like $12 a piece and you know, $11 a piece and yeah, yeah. Well now they're at $99.95, $125, $125, $125, and $99.95. So they've got a builder 1911 auto. That's not a bad price for the frames, but it's just that we remember, you could have bought 10 of these for the price of which you're now paying for one, because they've started to go up in prices with the other. The folders kit at the top of the AK-254, it looks like it's everything you're going to need except the... One good thing about the Para-O-Gnants guns is lots of mags for them. And be quite honest, I build the Chubby Stubby, do a Para Warthog, the P-10. And the reason I would do that is because any magazine that they made that was para-ordinated would fit that gun. No matter how small or how big. It's a little chubby stubby. Basically in the P-10 frame, the Warthog frame, if you grip it, the base of the gun lays right with the palm of the hand. That's how short it is. In fact, it's a little shorter than the little finger where the little finger rests. So the cool thing is that all the Warthog mags would fit, but so would any other larger capacity mag. And that's what I would build. Again, I didn't see this. They actually have the pair-organized frames complete. And of course those I'm sure require, they should require an FFL. But $200 for their pair of Black Ops, a 1445 frame, 125 for their 1911 frame. They're para-elite, para-expert, 1911 frame, 125. Not bad. These are actually well built. I've never had anything in para-ordinates fail. That's one thing I've got to say about them. I don't know why it is that they... I'm apparently what? Losing interest? It doesn't make sense. Something going on there. It may have been a family dispute. We know how that works too. There could be so many things when you go to a private company. Anyway, thank you for the heads up on that. And there are, there is a whole listing guys. Para-ordinates 80%, frames, para-ordinates barrels, para-ordinates frames complete, para-ordinates grips, para-ordinates L, L or I, LDA parts, para-ordinates magazines. Well, we'll see. Magazine catches for Tommy Gun. Yeah, they got magazines. 21, 28, well they're not too bad on the mags. They got a big pile of them, but they've been a little bit up in price. Warthog mags 3750 apiece whereas see the standard mags are 28, 24, 21, whatever and as I pointed out remember you can build a Warthog but you can put any of the bigger mags all they've done is just extended the length of the magazine the magazine catches the same in all of the same model of pistol so the P10, the P12, and the P13 the mags will all drop right into the little gun They also got ordnance parts, paro ordnance parts, paro ordnance single action parts and paro ordnance slides. Now they had slides also in the unfinished 80% too and those were a lot cheaper. Yeah, see they've gone up and of course they have every slide size you can imagine. If you have a paro ordnance gun and you wanted to change it out, this is the time to do it. If you want to get a spare slide, get a spare barrel, put everything together and make another gun. make your gun a longer slide but a shorty, this would be the time to do it. All the parts are available for the moment. In fact, they've got barrels, they've got Para-Ordnance 3 inch 9mm barrels, 3 inch 45 ACP, those are Warhawk, 45 ACP 3.5 inch, 5 and 5 inch, Para-Ordnance 5 inch 45 ACP, no ramp stainless steel barrels, $145. They only have five of the barrels left though. Now they had more barrels, so apparently somebody's already been catching up on grabbing the barrels. And like I said, your best bet would be to go warthog simply because warthog barrels are available. Short slide chubby stubby frame and build it up quick. And then the next thing I would do is start looking for and shopping for another barrel, building a long slide chubby stubby, which would be kind of cool. You know, short little gun, but with big long barrel, kind of fun. and still pretty easy to, as you know, stash away. Just a little bit of an idea there, and that's at e-circoinc.com e-circoinc.com All the information is in the sidebar on the left if you go to the page. See if there's anything else. There were a few other things on the front page they had. Of course, prices are up and down. They do have a 1911 auto builder's kit with serrated slide, $254.95, everything but the frame. And I have to go through the whole page right now. Again, some of the prices are okay, some are e, that's okay, but the collector is great as why. So, it's catch as catch can. Entering gun cases of desert chaos. Don't you mean desert storm? No, no, desert chaos. We call it desert dust. That's good enough name too. Desert for three. Anyway, heads up, lots of other interesting stuff there. And if you need spare parts, always check e-circoinc.com. readily available. And yes, they do have Thompson parts. Lots of Thompson parts. And all the accoutrements too, the stuff that you usually got left behind off the body when you stripped the enemy of their weapons. Or you got left behind because you can only stash the gun and weren't thinking about all the other goodies to keep the gun going. Well, those are all available at Surplus. We're rebuilds now because World War II reenactors have brought a lot of the stuff back to life. So that's another option. I don't see... well they do have some... they do have a pink... M4 pink stock set for those of you who are building a Hello Kitty gun. Arasaka cut receivers... let's see... cut Arasaka receivers with markings. Two sets for $14.95. I've never seen those before. Somebody would have terrified that we're going to get Arasaka bolt-action rifles. So you cut them. Problem is, looks like they only have the fronts. Kind of defeats the purpose. Oh no, correct you on that. You get a front and a back. Hold on, let me double check. There's a better picture. No, wait a minute. You get two... Well, I'm getting confused on this. You show two cut rears and the toes show two cut fronts. Now, do I get a front and a back or do I have to buy two sets of one and two sets of the other to get what I need? Yeah, that's what it looks like. Yeah, you get two of the fronts for $14.95 and then if you get two of the butt ends of the receiver for $9.95, that's how you got to do it. And then you get a whole receiver that way and you can play well-domatic if you want to. Nobody's ever made a great effort to do Arasaka's, but hey, we're a long way past World War II now, guys, and there are fewer and far between, and a lot of these idiots cut stuff up where they shouldn't have and should have known better, and they weren't thinking. So that's kind of interesting. Anyway, lots of stuff. Edasarcoinc.com. We're at the bottom of the hour at dawn. Night vision technology, you have it, we need it. Let's make sure everybody has the information and... Again, when we're looking at thermal, the thermal technology, there's quite a price spread. Explain to everybody why, because of course we do have, you know, the technology is upgradable now, isn't it? Yes, it is. That's a good question unto itself, and we've talked on that subject short term, but we'll do it again in a moment. If you go over to the website, ydte.us, that's yankee, delta, tango, us, you know, us, US. You'll see digital and green screen and thermal. And as mentioned earlier in the day, the green screen you see, that's the entry level tube there, be it second or third generation, you can go up in the tube. Now, you can make the picture finer, so to speak, and you can add more lines per millimeter and more lines per millimeter, up to more light magnification, in green screen. Now you can do the same thing in thermal but there's no such, there's not really, they don't call it generations in thermal. There's a number of different ways you can upgrade. Double the pixels on the other side, the side that you're looking at. Or you can go up with a bigger lens on the front. You can double the cyclic rate. There's three different ways you can improve on the base thermal which would be like 30 cycles per second and 240 or 280 by 420 as far as your pixels and orientation on the screen you're looking at. And a 19mm front lens. Now that's the entry level 4. Now that'll allow you to recognize a person out to about 300 yards or a little bit farther because of the bigger amount of heat. But you can run up to a 25mm front lens and a 50mm and a 100mm front lens. Now if you think of the gradual lacrosse there from about 300 to about 1500 meters that the 1000, that the 100-millimeter lens allows you to distinguish a human at 1500 meters. Somewhere between there, there's again the 50-millimeter front lens, the 25-millimeter front lens, and the 19-millimeter entry level. Now that's your front lenses. Let's go back to the other side because you can double up on the pixels, the lines per millimeter. Now that's going to make your picture twice as fine. That's one of the things you're going to need to do to recognize that person at 1500 meters. You're also going to need like 50 power. Line is five to 50. It's digitally magnified, amplified. Now by the time you get up toward that 50 power, you're going to be witnessing some pixelation. So you back it down a little bit, but you can still identify that person at 1500 meters. When you go down to the 50 millimeter front lens, which there's no 75 millimeter front lens for the phone, looking at recognizing a person at about 800 850 meters about 900 yards and so on back down through that. Double the frequency, the cyclic rate, there's another way. We've talked about the front lens, we've talked about the side that you look at like the dinky little television screen or you can double the cyclic rate of the whole device itself and if instead of 30 cycles per second. It'll run up to 60 seconds. Now it's basically projecting it to the screen and gathering that information in that amount of time per second. Now you'd think that, well, yeah, twice as good, twice as good, twice as much information in the same amount of time, but it doesn't take as long. Gather up information, 60 cycles. It gives you a real good picture. One of the things it allows you to do is pan. As example, you're moving the camera at something that you're moving, you're panning literally the camera, you're turning it on its axis so that you're following that car or that deer or that pig or that person that's running. 60 cycles will give you a clearer background and more image of the real fast like you'll probably see that leg, the legs moving almost all the time. 30 cycles you'll see little skips in the image when something really starts to move fast and 9 cycles it'll certainly look like a Charlie Chaplin movie. You can still get some viewers in 9 cycles per second, but that's entry level stuff and a gun sight at 9 cycles per second is not worth calling a gun sight, you guys. 30 is great because it's twice as long together, the amount of information is 60 and shows you it really is a little more sensitive. Each has its own advantage. The 30 cycles, the 60 cycles will allow you to pan more. The, uh, oh. The 19mm front lens is great at half power, like room to room, the street, or moving through heavy woods where all your sight lines are 10, 12, 16, 30 yards at the most. The 5x50, right off the gate, you're at 5 power. So again, we can look at cyclic rate, we can look at the amount of amplification, and we can look at the amount of pixels on ocular side so there's three ways you can go up and that's pretty much across the board in thermal you can again there's no first second or third generation. There's those well there's nine cycles per and there's 30 and there's 60 and yeah yeah there again there shouldn't be any nine cycles but there's some people out there they're building them and calling them gun sites and if something's moving them I would I would put forth the proposition that it's going to be really hard, a lot harder to hit if you're looking at it and it's looking like a Charlie Chaplin movie instead of one continuous scene. So I hope I answered that question there. If you go over to the website ydtoe.us you'll see fours with the 19 and the 25 and the 50 and the 100 millimeter front lens and I don't agree with the prices you see there so if you want to reduce the price give me a call. My number is 231796. 845-845 and we're through that part but hey, I hope I got some information out for you if you're looking for a piece of thermal whether you buy from me or not, whether you go over and now you're a little more armed to talk to the guy at the gun show, the guy at the gun store, or the guy with the 800 number. I don't have an 800 number. Again, my number is 231-796-8458. Thank you Mark. And again, for everybody out there, if you have a question, Ask Don, get up here on the air, call. Couple things here, somebody just of course asked me, well you guys haven't been talking about the Federal Appeals Court declares assault weapons are not protected by the Second Amendment because they are weapons of war. Well, what the hell do you think they were talking about with regard to the Second Amendment, guys? Well, I think we all know better, don't we? Well, your single barrel shotgun was a weapon of war at one time. Cartridge gun, every cartridge gun that exists is a weapon of war pattern gun. New or old, I don't care what the hell it is, every weapon that we have that we presently possess pretty much has gone to war one time or another and has been used by a war machine. So what it comes down to is again the leftist gangs, well you can't have a, well have a what? Well you may have a treaty that says you're supposed to try and screw America out of our, our article two rights. Article 2 of the Bill of Rights, because that's really what they're talking about. See, the Turds know that when you go in and talk constitutional issues like this, that you are talking apples and oranges, because they've signed a treaty, which is why the Gun Control Act of 1933, and especially the Gun Control Act of 1968, are in motion, because of treaties and agreements they've made with the Admiralty with regard to restricting firearms, and of course it has to do with the UN or the League of Nations before that, if you didn't know. understand that these turds have an agenda which is to try and take away the liberty teeth of America and this regime isn't going to be any different with regard to operations. Everybody's dancing around about what could happen. Well, it's what is happening right now. And this is proceeding. Now, I would point out again that, you know, the presidency can instruct the Justice Department after all the last one did and look at all the stuff that they were getting away with. And the one before that can pretty well say what they were... And the one before that, so why isn't Trump stepping up and saying, you know all these anti-gun things? We're not fighting them. If they're pro-firearm, they're going through. If they're anti-gun, we're not supporting them. And I'll tell the Justice Department, here's what you're doing. And that's how bummer worked, guys. And brags about it. Right now, even now, he's out of the presidency. He's bragging about stuff like that, where he's done... He did that all the while. He was ill-presidente. Okay, so then Trump should be stepping forward and doing the same thing, right? gets back to the whole thing about, you know, oh god, no. Uhhh. No, no, no. What you got? Somebody's got two firecrackers stuck up in it. Oh, these are some of those scenes where you like, you look at fools and you go, yep, and this is why we're cleaning up the gene pool. Okay, well you see. Oh, you wanted those nose to spite his face. You pick two firecrackers up your nostrils and light them. Trust me your nostrils for surgery is going to be very entertaining to say the least and if the cartilage in the middle of the nose holds up I just watched somebody somebody sent me a piece here where somebody was playing with the sharp swords and a guy had a you know, what is a had a Sausage in his mouth and neither were holding that steady. They weren't really that stable and the guy makes the sweep and yes He cut the sausage and he cleaned the nose from the nostril to the front Because the guy that's headlaying backwards so he can get the good sweep on the sausage. Self-inflicted injuries like this, again, I consider that social Darwinism. No, you don't charge them anything. They just deserve, you know, again, to be branded with the word stupid for, you know, certain things. And you know better. Everybody knows better. It's like, no, no, no, no, no, unless you lay down, stabilize that. And then by the way, yeah, they... You see the girls used to throw the knives at you know, they always do all these dangers. Well, you'll notice there's none that are really antique. In other words, really old people. Because at some time when the guy who's throwing the knife gets a little tired and older, there's that one time where he makes the mistake and well, that's retirement day. You know? So when I see stuff like this, it's like I am watching this because he just got shot over. It's like, no, I don't need to. Oh God, it did exactly what I expected. You would think, no maybe they're faking you out. You know, he can't be that stupid. You wouldn't do that. You wouldn't do that. Oh, he did that. Again, you know, common sense on your part guys. So I know you're better than that. And, uh, it's just pterodactyls. Right. You know. Barbara yelled right, somebody just said, yeah, well it's gonna be worse. Could be pterodactyl could take his nose. I was like, yeah, yeah, right. Fine one. I'd be more worried about a, about a, uh, a, uh, Not a penguin. Oh god, what's the other one? It's a non-sequitur thing. No, the idiot stuck two firebr-firecrackers up his nose, lit the match and went to town. And then was an emergency ward. So, do I feel sad or sorry about something like that? Not at all. Other than just, no I shouldn't watch that. I shouldn't promote it by watching it or looking at it. That's enough. That he never does that again. Again, yeah. Only because he doesn't have anything to stick up there that's not going to be closer to the skull now. Like in the skull. Next step is stuffing in your nose where the divots are left. Yeah, and start blowing the sinuses and the brains out and that will be about all she wrote. It's a slow version of a 12 gauge to the head, you know. I'd be like, oh really? That's not good. Waste of a good nose. Anyway, a couple of things here with regard to the period and somebody else asked, well, are all the mags interchangeable? I'm pretty sure that period and so smart and pretty much all of their mags are interchangeable except maybe one model. And I bring it up only because there's one of their large capacity double action models I believe that was a throw off it was a next generation gun or and for whatever reason maybe that's what killed them I don't know but you have to be careful there but definitely the p10s p12s p13s those mags are all interchangeable you'd have to confirm from the guys at sarco because if you do have one of those guns I'd be buying mags right now if you have a fact I'm going to mention to a friend of ours he has three of the warthogs and loves them, they're beautiful guns. He's a big man, you already know he's carrying them. He's carrying all three guns and you won't know that they're there. Can't tell, it's almost seven foot tall. Looks like stuff, no, doesn't really, he's got anything in his pocket, oops. But the bigger mags will fit and the problem is tracks them down for him so I think I'm gonna work on the other sources. CDNN Investments does have a pure ordnance mags in stock too, they're not the only one. You know, Sarko's not the only one that has them. Sarko's just cleaned out the inventory. of what pierogins had. On that note, they're not absolutely guns. That's the other thing you remember, it's just that now you're gun, it's in the industry, like my dad said, they used to call them orphan boat motors. Used to be in America, we had more machinery, we had more machinists, we had skilled tool and die people, and a lot of them, so people, it wasn't hard to build a new company up. And a lot of people did. In the heyday of the 50s, 60s, and early 70s, the last big gasp of American industry. A lot of companies came and went. They built up the company. Usually they worked for Chrysler. They worked for Johnson or Evan Rood. That's where the term orphan comes from because the company came up. They built up a beautiful piece of equipment. They didn't catch on. Or maybe it wasn't a beautiful piece of equipment because they miscalculated something. and it just didn't catch at the right window of time so the company went out of business. Well the motors are still running but there's only somebody out there and if you don't start collecting the parts that are still laying around by now a lot of it's gone to the scrap yard. Sadly enough it's like we got this big collection of fill in the blank, ooh the idiot son inherits it, look at all the scrap metal. You know these dunderheads idiots and incompetence do this all the time. So that's the problem and if you don't catch it at one point you're going to have to catch it in the scrap area while it's still sitting there rusting maybe a little bit. This is true with handguns in the same way. It's not that gun parts will typically be thrown out but like I've mentioned, unless you're willing to dig and I don't mean just go internet. You have to start going through the manufacturers, forgive me, the manufacturer pickup companies, the ones that have the spare parts like E-Dash, Sarco or Apex or whatever. And there's a lot of little guys that have started up that used to work for businesses like that. That's how they get started. They worked in one of the other companies. They got the connections, and they start doing it themselves too. Apex did that. They started out a lot smaller here over the last several years, and they've really picked up. Now they're even in the tank parts, tank optics, and all kinds of heavy stuff, which there's a lot of heavy stuff out there that can use that glass. So we're sliding it sideways towards where we need it. But there's a lot of places where they'll just have that last pile of parts. There's a couple companies, Argentine Mauser parts. The most common part to fail on the Argentine Mauser in the long run is first, the extractor. It's notorious. It was a great rifle design, beautiful rifle, their tack drivers, give me one, I will kill you at 600 yards with iron sights with that gun. Phenomenal weapons. Most tractor, you should always have one handy, always, if you have an Argentine Mauser. Well, behold, we got one of the companies, dollar a piece. They've got piles of them. I've talked to them. They've got hundreds of them. Do they have any other Argentine Mauser parts? No. Would you know that that's what they sell? No. If I didn't go wandering through their odds and ends in miscellaneous, I wouldn't know they had them. So don't assume that, well that's an AR company. No, go through all their clearance, go through all their close outs, go through all their miscellaneous sections, and be meticulous and go right to the end. Because that's where I found those Argentine extractors. At the very end of their miscellaneous section, very last page, two items all by itself. Why bother going there? A dollar a piece? Well, the reason they're a dollar a piece, they're not $20 a piece like other places because They got a pile of them, they want to move them, and they aren't going to come off them, but they'll take a dollar for them. They take a dollar for them, but you won't throw them away. Gun parts typically don't get thrown away. The problem is they get shuffled around and shuffled around, and they get lost in the shuffle. And that's why you have to search. Once you look at an older weapons system, you don't have to give up on it. Just understand, somewhere out there, there's boxes laying around with billions of dollars worth of parts from one era or another. Billions and billions of dollars worth of parts. So don't get frustrated. And if all else fails in this day and age, I mean hell, with CNCing machine where you can have something made in no time and even have more copies made if you have a bunch of them. We're doing that with a buck plate right now for a certain weapon. Have somebody make the mold and crank out a whole hundred or 300 of them. And once we have the mold, if we need more, we can. We'll even offer them on the market. Why? Because we need enough of them that it's worthwhile and if we need them we know there's other people that do too. And even if we only were to move a few of them they'll pay for the cost of the work on the mold. Selling them separate and off to the side from what we need but we need probably close to 250 of them. It's worth it for us to build them. We know we need them because we know they work and they serve a purpose. Okay, they're applied to a certain weapon system that can really use that butt plate. Recoil plate. parts, you've got to search and you have to be patient and also when you talk to people, don't get frustrated, they're going to ask you a lot of questions. Why? Because they deal with a lot of people who don't know gun parts the way they do. Sarco has always been really good for making sure they mate you up to the part that you need. It used to be when parts were flush in this country, especially for World War II, they would send you duplicates. If you ordered one part, you didn't get one part. You got two, three or four. They just throw them in the envelope and shoot them at you. Why? Because they got tunnels full of this stuff. Well, that's a few. And now they don't have as many tunnels full of this stuff. World War II is a long way away and getting farther away by the day. And so it's going up in price. It's like talking about those frames. I told you guys about those pair of ordnance frames when they first got them. Do you remember what the prices were? $11 apiece $9 apiece they were they had a pile of them they you know what do we do with them? Well, then they start buying more of the pair ordinance stuff and then pair ordinance sold out like they just said all of their inventory Now they're $125 frame $80 frame. Well again things changes with everything else try to find one of those Russian some automatic rifles. Yeah for $165 right That doesn't happen anymore anyway for all of you out there guys stay focused in the course Help us out with a micro effect. You can give Joe a call, 208-935-0094. If you would like to donate to Liberty Tree Radio, you can go to LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com and go to the Donate Team and donate there. God bless our Republic, Death and World Order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen, the Empire is on the run. We'll be back tomorrow, same time, down your number for Nightwing. One patient take us out, sir. Set number 231, seven times, six.
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