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For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of three and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this the land of the free, the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate. And your Christian values can't be taught according to this. You read about the current news in a regulated press. And you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God in shame. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seemingly farm and keep our country Put men of God in jail, harass your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children will be. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God-given right to torture free. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true, not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now, as tyrants trampled, each God given right. We only watched him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep, and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer? He called out from the grave, dill to land. Gentlemen, this is Afternoon Intelligence Report time, our court king. A closer victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both us. on and behind the lines at occupied territories south, southeast, west, and you're listening to us on Indiana Freedom Talk Radio dot com, and we are running with FM Microstations, CBE base stations, and UltraNet Hallmark and Golden Spike Technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. Good afternoon to our friends in the Aleutians and the red flag stores I mentioned every once in a while because part of them are in the Arctic Circle. And this time of year, most of them, the only thing you'll see, is above the snow piles and the drifts and the cold is that red flag. Beneath it is the whole rest of the store. Some of them are completely submerged underground under snow, so to speak, under a surface. through the, you know, winter parts of the year. It's kind of neat. And farther the earth it goes, the more likely that is. Anyway, today's date, well it is the 8th of February. It is the 9th year of open Fabian socialist and Soviet socialist occupation of America with the KA 2017. Oh, forgive me, 9th year, I'd say 8. 9th year, 9.99. And such is Bob Sherman for no. It is the 9th year of an occupation and it is of course 2017, old earth calendar 2017 year of conflict and year of storm. And what a storm it's going to be here. Well we've got all kinds of fun stuff going on. Around the country, little mouths say done with book waving mobs going through the airports. Boy you get mobbed by black uniformed punks outside. And you get stosky looking crotch gropers on the inside. What more could you ask for? Police state, 2017. I'm so proud. Land of the sea, Land of the home of the slave. Drop your doors and bend over. Anyway, for everybody out there, it is Weapons Wednesday. We're talking about shotguns up to the top of the last hour. And again, certainly not obsolete, but he stretched the imagination. A lot of different technologies out there in shotguns, too numerous to mention in one sitting. But any weapon, as long as it's kept functional, can serve a purpose in a number of different projects. Hey, a fishing line, a piece of sod off broom handle or mop handle me out of wood with a hole drove through it. Some duct tape point that obsolete or older weapon maybe you've only got like a single barrel shotgun as a spare. Well, what can I do with that? Hey, the directional command activated firearm. Drone shotgun man, only it's duct taped to a chair or to a wall or a door and pointed down a hallway or down a stairwell and you're in one direction and you realize the bad guys are coming up from the other. Hey, every time you pull the dowel, that 12 gauge goes off if it's a signal shot. Boom, once. Here's an idea. Maybe you've got some tired 22s or some tired semi-auto rifles that are odd man out. Maybe an older, beater 12 gauge. You're by yourself, but you know, you can multiply or force multiply. Their assumption is, you're busy on that side of the building and sneaky peep and sliding up that stairwell or sliding down that hallway. Yeah, the little buzzy lard goes off and up from a smokey arb that's down at ankle height and you just pull that rope, pull that string on that fine, heavy gauge fishing line and boom! Well, slow him down for a minute. Also make him wonder, if he was alone, why did another gun go off quite a distance away from him? It's also a great deception of piece of technology if you're in an area and you want to lure an aggressor in. One operator, a pile of odd firearms, fishing line. Let's see, iLit type, you know, post screw, you know, hatch latch, you know, iLits, you know, screw them in, use those for like pivot points, a little farther away. And when you build up booby traps with the conventional booby traps, well in this case, disperse and make one man FINE! That works in. One or two of you are keeping a whole bunch of busy looking in one direction. That fire maneuver element made up of all your, you know, best weapons, best people are coming in from another direction. Hey, that's... dudes. You know, deception is part of the main component built into the battlefield. And you need to master it and apply it. I mentioned a couple of, well, actually I mentioned more a few guns obviously over the week, it is Wednesday, but there are a number of handguns that are out there right now that are quite sophisticated, but there's also a new family of cap and ball pistols out there. They don't require any paperwork, considered non-firearms. And there are several different companies kind of replacing the old EMF company that everybody bought, Cap and Ball Guns for $27.95. Then it went to $30, $40, and then it went to $70, and now they're up around $180 to $200. But wait a minute, it shouldn't be that expensive, but that's where the money's gone. There are a couple of companies out there focusing on a unique niche. And they've brought the price back down a little bit, so if you're looking for a black powder gun, something to put in the inventory, Colt Model 1836, or the Remington Model Crosstraff, the Remington Model Crosstraffs can be loaded up quite heavily, as a matter of fact. And there's not one of these weapons that I would, you know, shall we say, mmm, you know, chuckle at if it was pointed at me. Number one, While it is black powder and by the way, we had this fun years ago Some woman made the comment. Well, that black powder gun's not gonna hurt anybody. I wouldn't worry about that and one of the gentlemen Yeah, exactly one of the gentlemen piped up and said exactly man, that's why they used black powder in the Civil War They really didn't want to hurt much of anybody Yeah, right. Okay now Remember, here's something about the Model 36, the 1836, the Colt's, the Open Strap. Guys, there are several companies out there, if you're looking to pick up and say, build, if you're willing to spend a little time with a, offhand tools, there are conversion kits, cost about $56, that switch basically your standard Colt Navy or Colt Army gun over to 38 Smith and Wesson. Now everybody goes, what? Well, guys, after the Great War, you know, the Northern War of Aggression, or the Civil War, if you were in the North, the Army didn't want to spend a whole lot of money on guns. And the technology had already been privately developed to switch over black powder, cap and ball guns to cartridge guns. Some of the first cartridge guns issued officially to the US military were not, you know, guns like the Peacemaker of the new army or anything like that. They were converted colts or converted Remingtons. Some privately done in, for instance, 44 RIM fire. Others, like the colts, done as an official military project, switching over to a single action cylinder cartridge hand cannon. Interestingly enough, the design was very straightforward, so much so that with all of these modern metallurgy, standard steel frame and or brass frame guns out there, 38 Smith & Wesson out of the box is a medium-gauge, a medium-blown cartridge that isn't going to tear the gun up. As a matter of fact, it very much mimics the original loads in the transition phase from black powder, mocha-less powder. Now these kits are still out there, and as a matter of fact, I'm not sure, but I have to double check. Gunpartscorp.com, old Nubric Arms, used to sell those kits, and they may have them somewhere in the gobbledygook of their, you know, inventory. If they do, I don't know what the price is now, but they're an excellent solution. Let's say that you don't want a papered handgun and you're looking for something you can put into a cache that has no paper trail. Well, a black powder gun has no paper trail. The conversion kit has no paper trail. And as we know, 38 Smith & Wesson, which I have pointed out, there's a flurry of it that just came in again. From PPU, preview partisan and standard lead projectile, 143 grain, 138 grain, is available out there depending on who's got one in the inventory. So we just spot checked it two days ago. One of the companies did sell out, but there's others carrying it. So we have a pretty decent combo package. Again, put it in the cache with a whole pile of ammo. quick, modern shots. By the way, I wouldn't get the shorter barrel. I'd pick that gun up with the longer barrel and take advantage of that little extra length, which gives that cartridge a just a little more bite when it goes down range. Now I understand that somebody has also made a .38 Smith & Wesson version about the performance of it. I haven't seen those, but the .38 S&W models work exceptionally well. All this required, like I said, a drill or a drill press. Couple of other tools including a hacksaw, although that's not essential, but it's just there are a number of ways it can be done. Needless to say, Mr. Dremel tool is your friend. Also, just a quick reminder for Ed, bottom of the hour break, and we're gonna repeat what we did the first hour. Somebody said, well, I haven't heard that in a while. So I'll tell you what, we're gonna do just exactly that. I'm sure that's already queued up. We still got a few minutes. We're not done with the hour yet. But, just a reminder guys, it doesn't have to be the most modern gun. In order for it to keep you alive, or at least keep you in the game on the battlefield in a situation where maybe you had to jump out of the shower bare butt naked, you're a little concerned about, again, where all of your, you know, the fact that the government might have any kind of, you know, paper trail to trace. or chase with regard to your personal weapons. Some people are very private about that. And so the Cap'n Ball alternative solution is, you know, switching out to cartridge is a viable option. In fact, you why not have, well, every guns are always for buying, not for selling. And since there's more out there, have yourself a Cap'n Ball piece in the model and a cartridge version that you've modified, you know, brought together yourself. Go ahead, caller. Are you going by on 94 right now? In about 10 minutes. Darn. We're not quite right there at the moment. Oh, is that right? Too bad. Timing is everything, but we're a little farther away from the moment than normal. Sadly enough. Which way are you headed? Are you headed east or west? I'm heading the North Carolina. Oh, very good. What'd you grab? Little supplies, food, food lines, stuff. a surgical surprise so you would be a truck that would be very handy if we went to a disaster mode right now. You would want your whole truck. Very good. So again, it's a viable truck. In this case, it wouldn't be GM truck axles. So there's not a whole lot you could do with those in a disaster situation, although they might be still useful. But a truckload of pharmaceuticals, on the other hand, medical support, always useful. But don't worry, it'll get probably there safe, if anything goes well. Oh, it's a good thing you mentioned it because any other day it would probably work, but it's probably chuckling right now because he knows what I'm talking about. We're farther away than it would be possible. It wouldn't be possible for us to jump in the vehicle and catch up with you for the moment. That'll change in the next few hours, but you know several hours, but not right away So on the way back if you come through or if you're in the idiot situation always mention that because we might be able to jump in the vehicle beach out of the truck stop Pretty cool. I'll probably leave tomorrow morning. Oh, you'd still be a little no, but thanks for the heads up very good anything else go ahead jump in my C-sauce, the North Carolina I'll try to get over to South Carolina to see him and show up in a bit too if I go very good Well, yeah, and peruse and have a shopping list of things that might be useful. Always look in the grab boxes and the odds and ends boxes. You never know what somebody's going to carry into a gun show. Might be something that's that widget you thought you needed but just never thought you'd find. Go ahead. I need a rear sight. You know, all that good stuff, but I believe it's really. Are you just looking for a different collapsible stock or are you just, you know, you don't have a stock yet? You know, the one in the kit was, you know, the regular stock. I just want to, well, I just want to collapse the stock, you know. So I can shorten the length of the weapon so I can shorten my truck. Are you thinking about going with a, what, a straightforward stud stock? Yes, I don't even know. Well, the stock probably got winded if it's a, is it a collapsible or was it a fixed stock that was on the model that you bought? It's fixed. It's a solid stock. Okay, well, you're just looking for a standard, what you want is just a standard five-point adjustable collapsible stock. Not a problem. Those are actually quite reasonably priced. It's purely a matter again, you know, which model preference you use. You know, take a look, experiment. I don't have any run off the shelf that I could give you or I would, but your best bet is to get to the gun show. See what it is. It might be useful. It's not too good of an idea to buy one from a gun show because if it's a return it. So I guess I better order one. Well, I want to get a dot at your scope, but then I want a scope. But right now, it's so I can have one, you know. Well, there's a couple of different companies that actually are pretty reasonably priced on the standard glass, you know, if you're looking for regular optics. And the AR, again, the long range, it doesn't need to be anything more than about a nine power. It can be a nine to a, you know, twin oh. 7-12, 9-12 variable options, or you can go with the fixed 9 power, which I do with a lot of them. Recently 9, any number of output, is that they're readily available, usually on the table, for a pretty good price. If you look for something, somebody's taken off a near rifle. Because they want to be able to count freckles and they go with something much bigger. Anyway, everybody stay where we are, we're going to do a break. Have a little air candy for your hair too. It is Weapons Wednesday at Liberty Tree Radio. A little tradition. Here we go. Let us help you find the right shotgun or rifle for you. Or if you're looking for a pistol or concealed carry, we have a nice selection of compact and subcompact pistols under that too. Check out our website at www.libertiesguardian.com. That website again is www.libertiesguardian.com. Go to the website and check out our selection today. Join Mark and Todd for Weapons Wednesday, where you'll learn how to use everything from your bare hands to your average AR-15. The 12th gauge autoloader? Sure. The 45th long slide? Yep. With laser siding? You betcha. Do we see 9mm? Yes, sir. Phase plasma life-routing 40 watt range? What are you, crazy? Wrong. Okay. He'll talk about that too. So whatever question you have about whatever weapon you have... Call Mark and Don on Weapons Wednesday and remember, your mind is your first best weapon. There are men, but this one is mine! Without me, my life is useless! I'm useless. Help me! He shoots me! Before God! In our hands we'll put our trifles. We may ride a goodly speed. You may know us a turn and after. We forward much with speed, but you'll learn the back much faster when you meet our mountain boys. And the leader, John, is stopped. Glad you make what little noise and always hit the mark. Oh, the rifle. Oh, the rifle. In our hands we'll prove no trifle. Grazed at home in the water. As heavy as he must come, as well as to the floor. We the jobs must do, the little sooner it is begun. You can figure, hold the button, the quickest will be done. Hold the rifle, hold the rifle. In our hands, we'll prove, no, you're right. Hold the rifle, hold the rifle. It is Weapons Wednesday. A reminder with all of the technology that's readily available. And ding-a-ling and noise in the background. I'll go ahead and mute you out. Okay, very good there. For everybody out there listening, again, we mentioned hand cannons. I have not seen everything that's come out of the SHOT Show because there are a lot of interesting things that have hit the beach here just in the last couple of months. And some of it was held in the shadows waiting for the SHOT Show. And so that, of course, is how... Well, you make... you titillate people with a little view or a little idea and make, by the way, check it out. at the SHOT Show. And then they market it accordingly. So there are a lot of new doodads, especially where people are taking seriously improvising or modifying certain weapons systems. Also, as we mentioned with Kel-Tec, Kel-Tec is very methodical about improvements and or changes to, again, bring into the market. And they're a good company. They're straightforward. They kind of are right down the same place where universal carbine and the original all of the different AR prototypes and unique AR type weapons were developed back in the day. There was a little research and engineering pool down there and the original Bushmaster Rifle Company operated down there in Halia and in other areas nearby. Now, Kel-Tec is pretty well stayed focused and stayed the course. They have about five or six of their SU guns now in .223, so all of them take standard Air 15 mag, which is really cool. The big thing is that they've improved or modified on the package, you know, expanded on the package to carry lasers and also to be beefed up more extensively. The original gun was a bush, you know, basically a bush pilot rifle. or something you could put into the kit and leave folded up in your backpack until you needed it and pull it out of the scabbard and you had a place for a 30 round magazine in the stock and another 30 round magazine in the magazine well that's 60 rounds if you came out of the bathroom and grabbed that bare butt naked that's 60 rounds to get you out of trouble kind of like the idea of the M1 carbine and the way it was originally put together and what its purpose was. Remember, it's a defense gun, not necessarily an offense gun. The Kel-Tec 223 rifles though, good all-around utility weapons. No complaints from all the people that we have that have bought them, although I don't know how many people have gotten into the newer designs in our end. The original design when it came out really picked up for its original purpose, something we could jam into the airplane. Put next to the pilot in the helicopter or stick in a vehicle and forget about it and have it hanging on behind the seat or under the seat or tucked away somewhere in the vehicle but when you needed a firearm, reach under, pull it out and pop, pop, boom, boom. And again, five pounds total weight, five pounds. Making for a very desirable hideaway gun. Well moving in the other direction, something I've talked about, and again I'm going to point to the situation this way. Guys if you run into an inheritance and somebody has anything you're not sure of, you're as held, don't tell. You know, the loose lips think shit should be the basic policy. Don't tell anybody, don't go, oh look at this, it's a big secret, don't it? People, the first time you let somebody else see something like that, it will be known. And in fact, it'll go from being a, you know, I got an AR-15 M16 kind of rifle to, uh, it was a 20mm fully automatic, melt-fed, laser-sided, little aircraft cannon. And they'll try some, some fool, try to make a deal, try to screw you in some way, or kind of mention maybe to somebody when they get in trouble, Hi, I know this guy. So that's another reason to pay attention to who you associate with. And especially when you are into inheritances that are sensitive. Hell, I didn't go so far to say that with vehicles nowadays, but with weapons especially, and since some things that your grandpa might have brought back from World War II, well, of course the bad guys would like to know about them so they can come over and confiscate them from you. For that reason, sure as hell don't ask any of the powers that be anything about your firearms. Ever. At the very least, they'll write down and it'll be in footnotes for every cop that pulls up your name and, oh my God, he's got a blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. But, remember, Grandpa or Uncle Fred or maybe your brother, you know, decided that they were going to bring stuff back from whatever war they were in. And then they, you know, you may have known about it in a roundabout way and now you've got it. Well, the reason he was able to keep it is because he probably didn't just pass the information on to anybody, right? Same with you. Discipline is most important here. We've got a lot of M60 machine guns and a lot of Browning machine guns and a lot of other weapons that are in the inventory. 20 millimeter Lottie guns, 55 Boyce guns. People there are incredibly effective when properly applied. But and I would point out the guys that brought back the m60 packages usually just kept sending parts and pieces and Rex home Not only do they have the gun But they've got pretty much all of the spare parts and armourers components to the point where they can probably build two or three others what I mean by Rex is a gun that usually got shot damaged or broken in some way and it was in the den of battle and got DXed off the inventory and it ceased to exist. A lot of guys said, I'll take that junk, and they shipped it home. So there's a lot of stuff like that out there. Years ago, Peterson devices, guys, he made the Mark I Springfield, which has a slot on the left side of the receiver. It's about the size of the small pistol case. Well, that Mark I receiver, which by the way, these used to pop up, the World War I surplus, they were made towards the end of the war, so they are second tier Springfield's. They have either dual hardening or full triple case hardening for the receiver, so they're very safe. But the Mark I's were designed to take the Peterson device. Well, what's the Peterson device, Mario? Some people would ask. Well, they took a...oh cool...a Springfield. Yeah, they dropped an entire bolt package. You took the bolt out, inserted this bolt package, and then you took a magazine like you see for a Thompson or a Spicer machine pistol, and this magazine held a 30 caliber French cartridge, in which in reality was 32 French. But it was called 30 caliber Peterson. And what this did is it made your Springfield an assault rifle for trench warfare. You didn't know about this, right? Maybe you've never heard of it before. Of course, I don't want you to think about it. Wait a minute. You can't do that. You can't take a bolt action and turn it into a semi-automatic weapon. As a matter of fact, yes, you can. And the government did it. Well, at the end of the war, there was, you know, the Peterson system was kind of, well, thrown to the wayside. After all, it was the war to end all wars, although everybody knew better than that BS. And so, the rifles were sold simply as both action, Springfield rifles, modeled the straight model, 1903 straight. And the Peterson devices, well, some got destroyed, some kind of got carried back. One of our friends and myself, we were perusing a yard sale down in Ohio. There was a box of junk. Now the woman said, yeah, my grandfather came back from World War I, and this is a bunch of the stuff he had in his shop there. It's been floating around. He's passed away, and we're selling everything, including his machinery. Well, hey, the friend bought the machinery. And then he also bought these big parts boxes. There were nine Peterson devices. along with some of these weird magazines that didn't make any sense until you did a little research and found out that the magazines went to the Peterson device. But you wouldn't even know that they were, if you didn't know what you were looking at, they looked like a jarble of really like, well they're springs and it looks like it's kind of like part of a gun, but how does this thing work? Well the other half of it was a standard bolt-action rifle. Now this idea did not die with the Peterson device. At the beginning of World War II, the Australians along with the Canadians and the Brits were all getting the stock beat out of them. And they were dying by the droves everywhere. And they were surrendering to the Japanese and surrendering to the Germans and getting deadified out in the desert or getting deadified in Southeast Asia. Every time that happened, all those guns they carried out, like at Dunkirk, well, they didn't have any replacements. So the Australians, because they couldn't get hold of any more Bren guns, you know, the Bren gun in 303, top magazine feed, full battle rifle caliber, somebody said, well, hey, bye, Joe. What say we take that Peterson idea and we expand it and we put a bigger magazine on a British Enfield and we take this whole module, take the bolt out, take the whole module and plug it in. And all of a sudden you've got a poor man's B.A.R. or a poor man's... ...brand gun. Me? Look at that. Was the brand magazine only 20 rounds or 30? One of us would be a 30 round mag, but the thing is that they made an entire decker. Remember that the SMLEs and the British Mark IV, you know, number four mark ones, that's a, well, although it may be milled, but it was this often stanted as milled trigger card, so there was no big deal to modifying that. Now two versions the first one they simply made a big infield mag You know pop pop pop pop pop so it just drops in the magazine well But with Bren gun mags mags they could acquire guns they couldn't make enough of about 27 it's argued the number is anywhere as low as 24 25,000 but the center number the Australians put about 27,000 of these into service and may have built as many as 29,000 of the systems. And these went into the field in place of the Bren gun, which was not available because of wartime production. It couldn't keep up with the losses. And it served through the war in one capacity or another, either with the Australian military and also American troops, by the way, along with island constabulary forces, and later on, colonial forces of mixed type. Though of course because the Australians were under the same control as the Brits and the same aid or attentive anti-gun sentiments. In many cases the weapons were fully destroyed, though not all of them because there was a need for firearms. But they didn't want to give the native Constabulary the best weapons available. They wanted to give them some of the work, but they didn't want to have to worry about spare parts, you know, being available. So they offered these guns to the island defense forces knowing that, well, if they didn't take care of them, they're going to break down and then they wouldn't be a threat to the colonial occupiers. Guns worked well. One of my friends, who of course is retired in way up north, World War II, I've talked about him many times, he now lives in the Upper Peninsula. He retired and he didn't go to Florida. He went up to the Keweenaw. At the beginning of the war, he was part of the Brisbane Line. The Americans had no firearms of their own. Contrary to all the BS propaganda, where, boy, we're tough on an album, but we're using our stuff. No, no, no, no, no. The Americans that hit the ground had their, whatever was in their duffel bag, and they had no firearms to speak of. Well, eventually, after the Brisbane line, which most of them had either sporting guns or muzzle loaders or .22-calibri guns, my friend had a .333 BSA custom-built elephant rifle that had 20 rounds for it that was donated by some shooter. That's what he was waiting for the Japanese to hit the beaches with. After that, and before America could get any more real firearms of any quantity from the U.S. inventory, then the next phase is if the American troops were equipped with hand-me-down, second-line British equipment. And during that phase, these particular guns ended up in the hands of American forces for a very short period of time, then were withdrawn as more American equipment showed up, and then those guns were passed on to somebody else. So these weapons did see a lot of time in service. They didn't necessarily see a lot of shooting time, some of them, because, well, they got to get from one island to the next, or the troops were deployed in the situation where they were ready to fight and at least could offer a resistance. But eventually, they were withdrawn from the front, re-equipped, and then thrown back into the battle again. So this is something historically, the gun concept, the idea itself, any Bolt action firearm could be converted to this design. Any bolt action firearm could be adapted. Don't think about changing up the gun. Think about an add-on module that simply works, you know, it's a works in a drawer package that plugs into the existing bolt stays and where the bolt can normally would engage. The replacement bolt and the sub-automatic system are all one tray slash like the rear end of an AK or like the upper receiver of an AR-15. Think of it that way. The bolt rifle itself provided the trigger, you know, slash the sear for releasing the action. But everything else was built out of stamped sheet metal, minimal machining, and was designed to plug onto the gun and provide a fully automatic option without modifying the gun in any way. Think about that. Slapping it onto an existing firearm. No, I would point out that the Peterson device did have the little slot in the side. That was a modification. And that was to provide an ejection port because rather than ejecting up and to the right, The Peterson device ejected at the 9 o'clock station to the receiver. In other words, to the left, straight to the left. And that's what the slot, it's about the length from the tip of your little finger to your first little knuckle there. That's about how big the slot was to accommodate an expended case of ammunition ejected by that add-on bolt carrier group. So this was a neat little idea. And for anybody who might be creative, Just because you don't have that AK or that AR doesn't mean any other common firearm you have a lot of Could not be adapted to the same purpose as the Peterson and as these Australian squat guns were purely a matter of what is it chambered for? Can you get ammunition for it? Do you have sufficient ammunition and you have a magazine system that will accommodate it? I would point out there's a lot of 308 a lot of 223 And a lot of 36 weapons out there that are mineral carbon copy one after another if you had to develop something like this. And again, remember these were select fire weapons. Now it doesn't have to be a select fire system, but this was a way to supplement the suppression fire category in wartime. Keyword here, wartime. You don't have to do it now. You can perfect the design right now. And then in a situation where there's a need, expand on the process. First thing a lot of people were thinking about is the NACOT rifle. Oh, yeah, there are a lot of those out there aren't there guys? And there's a lot of ammo. And cheap. Yeah, and cheap. Now here's the thing. Go to, let me give you a little heads up. If you want a 7.62x54R magazine to experiment with, go over at copesdistributing.com. copesdistributing.com. Then go over to their surplus section. You might notice that there is a very interesting odd magazine located there. Take a look at that. Hey, that's made for a rifle you haven't seen before. And it's a detachable magazine. And it's built for 7.62x54. I wonder what I could do with that. Hey, no, Callan. Yes, and again, these magazines are virtually new. They're military surplus. They're not an aftermarket magazine, guys. These are a military magazine that works. So you've got an R&D magazine to work with that's not too outrageously priced. You've got a number of weapons where, oh, here's an idea. You might have noticed there's a bunch of parted out NEGA receivers right now that have a barrel. They have a receiver. They may even have the magazine well, but they may not have the bolt, but you don't need the bolt. Not only that, but think about this. It says you're going to modernize the, you know, the add-on system. You don't need the original wooden stock. There's Zytel nylon stocks that are quite cheap that are out there. They would give you the basis for that prototype work you're doing. Hey, wait a minute. I could do this on the cheap? Well, that's the whole idea. You build a prototype to demonstrate that it can be done. Then you start testing to destruction to demonstrate how it can continue to function. That's what Aberdeen used to do. They would test the destruction, look to see what broke. The paint needs to be broke, make it work. I hear the music. Uh oh. Sorry about that. We're not quite there yet, guys. We got a minute or two more. There we go. Sorry about that, Dad. That was just a little early. I'm setting stuff up for Craig's program. Accidentally hit the play button. And of course, we have Craig from Forbidden Knowledge coming up next. As long as we're on the subject of Craig, I will remind everybody again, guys. uh... copper rounds you don't have to buy a lot i know he's really actually has gone through quite a few and has used many of them up people have been buying them because of them throwing them away uh... but if you buy a roll you're gonna get a hell of a price if you buy a tray you get an even better price from craig at forbidden knowledge and copper rounds are part of our uh... currency base for the future We are going to have a solution. We are the thinkers. They got the stinkers. Okay? And the copper rounds are pretty cool. Check, see what they have left, find out what he's got available. Well, he can get more and he can get more stamped also. Remember Craig put his money where his mouth is and he has the dyes to actually make more of what he chooses. Hey, that's pretty cool. So anyway, solution there. Now, another thing. When they got receivers, there's a bunch of different companies. Everybody goes, well, who has them? Right now, if you go to cdnandinvestments.com, they were listing a number of stripped. They got receivers with barreled actions, basically. Some with or without the magazine group and with or without the bolt. So there's apparently a mix of systems, parts that they have. as far as what condition they've been stripped for the goodies and spare parts somebody wanted. Again, the 7.62x54R round is still one of the cheapest main metal rifle cartridges to experiment with. But maybe you just want to do a project gun where you can actually build a bolt-action A-dot that has a much larger magazine capacity. You have a little bit of a machining capability. Take a look at those magazines at COPESdistributing.com. They're over in the surplus section. They're quite interesting. You might want to go, hmm, I need to check those out. And between that and a few other very inexpensive and innovative ideas and items that are presently in the system and are kind of a drug on the market. There are so many nagots out there. There's been a ton of these different stocks made. There's all kinds of different ideas. Personal preference choice, but it's got to be something you can mill or work easily. The Zytel Nylon Stocks are very easy to sculpt. So if you need to accommodate that larger magazine well, that magazine well area on the existing make-up stock design would be a very easy piece of material to work with. Very forgiving, in fact, if you make a boo-boo. So, something to think about there. There are a top just about. Somebody asked again, 765 Argentine, I get it out of it. I'm actually, I'm, I'm, I'm asking it because I'm getting different requests for that from different points of the compass. So again, there are a lot of, um, Argentine Mausers out there. Uh, again, it's unamo.com, unamo.com, unamo.com, and 765 Argentine military, um, brass military load, 70s to early 80s. And it's a standard ball load, a little under 200 grain, I believe the one is. It might have the 206 grain projectile, I don't think so. I think this is like the 193 or 191. I have to double check. There are several loads that were made both by the Germans. the Portuguese and by the South Americans to include Argentina of course which carried the gun you know the caliber for a long long time I guarantee there's a lot of them floating down floating around down there as a matter of fact anyway are at the top and again thank you very much and we'll be back at 8 o'clock with you also until check out Craig from Forbidden Knowledge coming right behind us asking about gas masks Ask about radiological, pretty attention and defense and cop around. Go to Forbidden Knowledge to find out. God bless. Bye bye. A family owned business located in the heart of Ohio's hunting country. 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