50 caliber and 30 caliber cans. If you'll notice, the spec is such that they lay perfectly into a 50 caliber can. And that's not an accident, by the way. That was intentional. That was part of business. Okay, that was intentional for years. Some of the companies, don't worry, they have different affiliations, but as far as I'm concerned, remember, moisture kills. That's the first rule. Whenever you can block moisture, you're always gonna be in better shape. I don't see why the ammo can would be a problem. I don't see, number one, if it was a dissimilar metal issue, first you'd have to be making contact with something. Well, the primers are in a plastic tray inside a cardboard box, inside a larger cardboard box, and I don't see any contact taking place there. As far as leaching, that can't be a problem. In fact, remember that if you have a chemical compound, if it may consume what little oxygen is there, traditionally what we've done, if I'm really doing it right, is I actually have used CO2 for almost all the 50 caliber and 30 caliber cans. What we'll do is once we load everything in place, it's the same thing we were doing with our number 10 cans. We create a wand on an air spray gun. You like to use just spray it off things with your compressor. Only put a piece of copper pipe on the end about the size. It's got the internal bore about the size of a pencil lid. Very, very fine. About 12, 14 inches long. Typically it gets bent a little bit over the years. But you stick it down to the bottom of the can, you hit the spray, and the CO2 of course pushes the air out. And you pull the wand up through the material, and then you shut the lid. What little oxygen is in there will be taken eaten up by the visit the disacant cap that's on the top of the lid inside the lid The material in the top of the lid that's why it's got that second tier of metal in there guys I don't know where that came from. I fact I'd love a triple layer. I'd like to have a third layer protection I take the cans and put them inside something else only because you're yeah, I think you're referring to the say that you fire in the can heat so I was go off that one actually I just look you know what happens Let me put it this way. Stasa, his son, before his son had probably close to, I'd say, 20,000 rounds of ammunition stored in one of the barns. They had a fire. They believe it was set. Probably state police. Okay. Pretty well everybody knows who was hanging around. Actually off the property, Mount the back 40, and the only thing that was in the area were state cop cars and state SUVs. What happened is the fire of course consumed the building. Well, the camo cans in reality survived the fire quite well. Except every round inside was a firecracker and you know, they all went off. They all consumed themselves. All that it did was pop the lid off of the cans. Amazingly enough, and I don't know how it happened, the latch, it may be the, I figure what would probably happen is this. As it was heating up, this melted. The latch and disengaged and every one of them, the lid popped off without blowing anything apart and you had a lot of empty cases that were burned. Obviously all the powder gone, the bullets, some of them got hot enough that the lead leaked out of them. Others were on the peripheral or outer edge of however this was piled up. When I was looking at it, a lot of the bullets survived. In theory, you probably could have recovery reused them. So if that happens with loaded shells, which are like a series of squibs, I'm not too worried about the primers. You know what I mean? There's a number of subjects though. You know firemen will come to your house and if your house is on fire a lot of times they'll ask, is there ammunition in the house? They'll move away from the fire. Right, right. Now when a bullet goes off in a fire you guys, it goes bang. Sure it goes bang. But all of that force is in driving that bullet down a barrel so that bullet's not going to go anywhere at 1,400 feet or 700 or 400 or 300 feet per second. But we've had this at mistake police right down the road here. Nancy, I can put Nancy on the phone. Forgive me, on the microphone. And you guys could hear the story of one of our friends known for years. He told the firemen, hey, by the way, there's some man-made stuff in the house. We can get it out. In the fire, state pigs showed up. They're in the outlying areas. They're the quote unquote fire marshals. And they had a conversation with the idiot chief. and they backed off and let the fire start. This fire had been completely contained. They were on fire watch. And they had them back off and they wouldn't let anybody go in the house and they burned the house down to destroy the weapons. They did it intentionally. We know they did. Everybody knows they did. On a B slap that... Well, first of all, the fire department, they didn't have to listen to the asses. So they went along with it. That was a volunteer fire department. They should have... Somebody would have found that guy and used a baseball bat on his knees later on because that's totally unacceptable. as it is, that's the kind of BS that's going on around the country. So no, don't tell them. Don't tell them the thing. Exactly. Now let's go up in the scale of storage where there's an upright freezer, you know, like a door on it, like a for, it's not a, it wasn't a commercial place, but it's not a walk-in freezer, like a great big refrigerator walk-in freezer has 48 gallons of powder in it. It's a beautiful storage for powder, dead freezer. It'll never, it'll never keep anything cold. but it is a wonderful storage for powder. If you didn't have that much powder in the top, primer's in the bottom. Or primer's on the top, powder on the bottom. Don't throw out that old refrigerator that's dead. If you're a reloader, use it for your powder vault. One more thing, Mark. I sent you a card. Did you get it? So what card in the mail did you get it? It was a white one. I think we got it today, as a matter of fact. You should have before that. Was it like last week or a week before? Okay, well we get Nancy picked up the mail and is he talking about a fairly big one? Yeah, normal size like a calling goes to a thank you card. Yes. And there's a little something in there for you. Yes, I got that. Okay, alright good. I'm gonna make sure you get it. Now real quick on this thing with the primers, again just a reminder, it's a good question. Don't ever hesitate to ask. See, I'm always curious about where some of the ideas came from. If it's a fire issue, consider this. The metal can is more of a barrier than cardboard boxes would be in a fire. Okay, so the balancing act is, does it buy time? If it were to fail, the container typically will fail the path of least resistance. The path of least resistance is going to be the hinge or the latch. That means the lid's going to flip off and then the energy's going in that direction, whatever there is. There will be some. I mean, no matter what, you've got to figure at a certain point you're going to reach boiling point slash consumption point. Take your pick. I mean, again, flash point. And what's going to happen is, whoa, but it's not going to be a nuclear device or a Hollywood flame show. It's more going to be, like Don said, like a whole string of firecrackers. And because they are individual subcomponents, and these subcomponents, by the way, are mostly exposed, OK? If it was encapsulated in a smaller containment device, it would be one thing. But those individual caps first going off are not going to have a uniform expansion. They're not going to go off simultaneously like a firecracker. They wouldn't work quite like a powder. Yeah, because you see that they're not contiguous. The material is not constant compound contact. It's separated by material. Little clamshells, actually not little clamshells, little cups. And that creates a fogging and actually dissipates the energy of the blast. It sounds weird, but Think about it like a whole bunch of little dams and while it would be pretty impressive if you get it all to go off at once, when you have it in a series of small containment devices like this and they're in little, you know, again, little metal cups, the, while the concussive, you know, shockwave would have been impressive, it was all in one big pile, maybe, uh, you, what happens every time that it pops, you have this dissipation and disruption taking place. It's kind of like the way they build reefs. Think about when you're dealing with shock waves. When they build reefs with the ocean, they take rubble, they don't want flat surface, they want rubble. They want chunks of cement and they cast them in all these strange shapes and they drop them in the water. Why? It breaks up that energy and distributes it and it also becomes counter energy that breaks up the energy of the other components of the same wave. And the same thing is happening. It takes a lot to break this down as far as explaining it, but think about it. It's like it's working through a maze, and it's a totally random maze. Turns the one big slap into a bunch of little eddies. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, As an example, I had a few ammo cans out in the garage here about a year ago, and I'm sorting through them, trying to figure out, what's in that, I can't remember. And what's in this one, I can't remember, it's been so long. And my buddy's standing there, and I open up this can, and here's a box of primers on the top, and there's other hardware in the can. And not knowing what it was, he opened up that little, you know, two inch by two inch by half inch deep box of primers, slid it open, and about 20 fell into the can. Maybe 30 fell into the cam, the ammo can. Now, I told him what he did, and I'll tell you what he did in just a moment, but I explained this to him, and I took the box, the box of primers, closed it, put it back in the ammo can, and put that ammo can off to the side. Real gentle. Why? Because I'm pretty certain in that can, well, there's some dies, there's some other, you know, loading dies and some other things that are of weight. And you know how you throw ammo cans around? You know that. You pick it up, you slide it into the back of the pickup truck or whatever, or you slap it onto that shelf. Now if that can were picked up and slid to the back of a shelf, there might be something hard that impacts and crushes one of those or more of those primers. So you don't, if you're gonna store primers in an ammo can, all you want to store in that ammo can, okay? Just for, you know, the way people treat them and, and well, if There's plenty of room in that ammo can that's scribed. Someone were to just toss that up into some shelf or the back of a pickup truck, perhaps there's gonna be a little primer going off in there. And it ain't gonna be, you know, tremendous like you say, Mark. It's not, oh, oh, watch the meltdown of the truck in 14 blocks radius. It's something you want to avoid, right? Hello, Mark. I recognize that voice. Yes, oh, ammo cans, prime little story, starting the ground war push. into the burned out transporting at least two M60s. It happened inside the back of the vehicle and it called it, not the ammo. The drivers pulled it aside to the road. The vehicle, all it was, was steering wheel column. It's kind of a novel. Inside were the ammo cans. All of the rounds had not enough energy for them to even penetrate the side wall of the ammo can. All the lead was in a pool or one of the corners of the ammo. It's all right there in a nice container. You can keep all the brass together and you got all the lead. Certainly been annealed. That's interesting because you see, again, sometimes it pops, sometimes it doesn't. You had good heat there. Did the lid pop on those? I can't really say or not. I got some pictures of it. You can pull it in the side of the can where the projectiles tried to come here one way or the other. I was going to say the fire was definitely hot enough for it. It was inside of a rolling boiling fire for a whole Humvee. See that was the same with Frank's, you know, well Frank got a Quonset building out of it so we couldn't complain but we had we actually went down went over well we went up we rebuilt the barn and he ended with a bit up of the building that was five times the original building he had but it had completely been consumed I mean it was actually we use it for some more footage when we were done because you had you know wreckage you know when a military equipment had been burned it's amazing what survived. Again, it was a mix as far as the cans. Like I said, they were very in condition. And I think part of the reason if they were, you know, if they get sloppy enough on the seal, that's what loosened the latch. Otherwise, it was a mix because he had, I don't know, probably, I would say 10, 20 millimeter cans full of 223. They were probably 20, 50 caliber cans full of 70 by 39. Then we had a mixed lot of 308 because the one the sun was heavy on the M14. Sadly, we lost some of the 308 ammunition. Pretty much consistent. We had a good cross section. It was spread out, but it was still a pie stacked uniformly for space. Spread out three different points on the barn and pretty much all of them was affected. It was all affected the same way because the whole thing went out. Again, it makes for a good safety containment vessel as far as I'm concerned. It does more to prevent spread because if you have an expansion and an explosion of some kind, it has a tendency to spread the wealth. Okay, now, it still is not going to be any more effective as far as cartridge is going to pop, like we said, it's more like a squib. Just think of it as a not too fancy squib. You don't want to be near anything like that. I mean like I said the morning Mr. Grenade is not your friend. Well, there was a cartridge going off when you didn't want it to or randomly in any environment. It's said that there's enough energy in a 50 caliber round it's comparable to the powder charge is comparable to a hand grenade. That's where you start getting up into heavy gun and cannon. It's embarrassing when any of those accidentally go off and side discharge where you have a failure on the case or something. Well again, that's one of the interesting things too is what we could recover from it. We always look at the, oh my god look what I lost. I immediately, we all have to be thinking, what can we recover from it? Well the nice thing is the brass is right there. Like you said, the lead is over in the corner. Everything goes back with the empty trucks guys. If it's steel, if it's metal, if it's lead, if it's brass, it's going back to the rear in this war. It's not laying around. We are going to be scouring the battlefield clean for raw materials. That's one of the things I think that should happen and should be a policy. Mike, have you seen any of the battlefield imagery from the Ukraine? There's some really good stuff there to watch. Everybody should look at this because on the forward edge of the battlefield, there's some excellent footage from last year, I think it was a year and a quarter ago. It was during the third offensive when the Western Ukrainians came out with everything they had and the militias literally just chopped them a new hind end. But the footage there, they started using the car cameras on their helmets. And the footage is clear and very, very, very, very accurate in terms of giving you imagery that you can interpret easily without having to go. What's that fuzzy thing there? The amount of spilled ordnance. Just during an assault phase, if you want to watch this, guys, the guys are kicking magazines, grenades, cases of grenades, which I personally wouldn't, but they're looking at it, they're picking one of the shells up and throwing it back down like, eh, we got lots of them, we're going to come back on this. But it's the idea that this stuff has been shot at, it's been part of an explosion, anything you can imagine, and it's not what was destroyed, it's amazing. Again, like we've always said, how much survives. But the real big issue is you have to be prepared with recovery units, guys. We need to be right from the get-go. Oh, we got plenty so we don't worry about it. That is a loser's concept. Now, from the get-go, we teach the scavenge process, the whole idea of picking the battlefield. If it's busted and shredded to the point where it's absolutely useless, it's scrap. It's going back for metal. If it's demi-functional or one piece but it's distorted, well, it's anti-personnel. It's going to be an IED. Because, you know, mortar rounds, I mean, some of the stuff they're coming across as they're overrunning positions, you know, there's two, three cases of mortar rounds. Some are spilled, literally spilled all over the ground where the case was rolled sideways and it's covering an area about 9, 10 feet, you know, square. Stuff like this is going to be run too constantly. Now, you have to all consider everything a sabotage issue. Because unless you just saw it happen, you don't know how long it's been laying there and you don't know if it's been prepped. So that's where your engineers and your recovery people and anybody else who's moving forward, you have to make a judgment call on that. And of course, as far as raw scrap recovery like that Humvee, well, that sucker would be going, if there's a truck going to the rear and it's empty, every truck should have a recovery crane on it like they proposed with these newer deuce to have. So the cab over engine. Originally, those were all supposed to have a winch on them. And I don't know what happened because I don't see it now. I assume they probably penny pinched it out. Oh, no, no, they were bought. That's where some of that money went out of the Pentagon. They were never delivered. They were bought. They just never got there. But you see, we have five of those. We have five of the prototypes. Our guys do. We got them for $900 apiece with like 40 miles and 60 miles on the odometer. the I'm sorry. No, I was just going to say when you're talking about the salvage in the battlefield, I can attest to that when, you know, the laughing thing that we said, you know, here's an AK never fired, only dropped once. The magazines, uniforms, helmets, AKs, RPG projectiles, mortar rounds. And as we were headed north, because, you know, they try to keep air and tear down on the track vehicles. So a lot of times they don't per se riding in the battle, they'll go up on the back of a lowboy. They'll unload them and get ready to push hustlemen. This low boy is headed back to the south and they had covered up with camouflage nets, artillery pieces, you name it, armored personnel carriers, and this stuff, shell casings magazine. And he's talking about battlefield recasting. If you study Rommel over in the North African desert because they had such a limited amount of that they had special crews that when even there would be a tank battle and several other tanks would get knocked out, put them on a, and get them to put in the new wiring harnesses, get them all running and ready to go, where out in the field, 1940s, they were able to recondition and re-fit. Yep. In fact, one of the things that we need to remember is, again, modular, most every weapon system is modular anyway. Or just like looking at the weapons that are damaged. Well, between two, three, or four wrecks you might build one good, AK. But you can put something back online. Now, there's not a part I would throw away because it's a matter of best of all time. Think of it this way. We've always talked about this. Every man only has 24 hours in the day. It doesn't use nothing to do to change that. They've got to rest. No matter how hard you'd like to maybe get them to stay up for five, six, seven days nonstop, it isn't going to happen. So you have to look at how can I as quickly as possible turn what is most valuable around. Now if it's a high priority item and I'm very short the object, all of a sudden I'm willing to put man hours into that. Many man hours as needed. In fact, what I do is I focus. It's not going to be one or two men working on it. Like you said, like an armored vehicle or an armored recovery unit will have a platoon or a company And all those guys are professional wrench turners in the master's degree. In fact, once they've done enough of this, just like you said, they literally can do it, dogged and in their sleep. Not that we want that to happen or you would try to avoid that. And you sure as hell don't want to lose them in combat. This is the other thing, like doctors. That man is more valuable to you being able to turn a piece of equipment around in a few hours or a day than he is up there on the front line with a K-98 Mauser. putting one bullet down range. If he can turn a tank with a 75 or 50 millimeter gun, where would you rather have him? And if he turned that armored vehicle around and a crew can jump in, you can find crews. There may be one part of one crew left, one part of the other. Guess what? Just like the tank, you put them all together and you keep going. So that's one thing we have to be thinking now. This is the most important part of the battle we're facing. And I don't think there's nothing changing right now as far as what I'm seeing. Another Goldie Sucks person just got announced. Basically, their yappen cone is the next one they're going to take from Goldie Sucks and they're going to have them in the administration. So all the key money points where they're going to be stealing more from us, they've got their people in there. And this is looking like 2008, 2009. Well, actually, 07, 08, 09. So be prepared there. No, when the infantry division pulled through our unit on the way back south, ground war and ceasefire had been their vehicles, other than their M1A1s, but almost every one of their vehicles, whether it was a Humvee or an APC, had some type of double-barreled 23, within two separate areas. Here comes a colon they got behind them. It's the Soviet, I think it's the airborne version of their It's either the BMD or the BMP. No, it's the BMD. Yeah, the BMD vehicle. Yeah, one slightly shorter with a sharper more than delivery, but whatever it was, they had that tote on behind it. They pulled it up and I guess they had a mish morning they were gone and figured it's awful bad. That is the more manageable piece of equipment to use right there. It's a little bit more like a towards more of the M114. A little bigger than the M114, slightly smaller than the M113. It's not a bad little pocket piece of armor to have. It's got good speed too. Russians have good speed track. That's one thing about their equipment. Go ahead, jump in there. Mike, we got Mike here. What was pulling the mowboy? Was it a track vehicle or was it a regular septon? Yeah, it was a regular septon. Actually, if you go, I'll tell you what, if you want to see what he's talking about, go to govliquidation.com to look at some of the images that they use. When you go to the different sections, you'll find the, well they actually were selling a bunch of them recently again. Every once in a while they pop up, about two years ago, and I was telling everybody, guys, check this out. A massive number of trucks and a whole bunch of 2008 dragon wagons, everything on board, and all of them AA vehicles, all of them running. The complete portfolio will show you, no parts missing. Spare tires still in place. And they were shoveling them out the back door. everything you need to move in Abrams, everything you need to move in one or two M113s or a couple of Bradleys. You can move one, at least, you know, I've been in the trailer you bought. Yeah. Go ahead. No, I was just going to say going back to this Battlefield Recovery good idea, because a lot of people on their pickups have the regular ball hitch combination where it's also for the pencil and the ball, you can kind of flip them back and forth. So it might be a good idea for people out there thinking because quite a few of your military pencil hitches and not a regular ball hitch. So either you can build up or buy some contraption most likely from Harbor Freight where you could clamp it onto a vehicle or onto their tray to a ball hitch or for have one that's a cop onto your tow mechanism on the back of your vehicle. Everybody needs to go ahead and get the time and get a reel onto your frame where the ball is just made into your bumper because you start moving and and a pinhole where the ball makes up the lower part of the chin of the seat and what you do is when you want to do ball hitch, you can actually change the ball too. You don't have to stick to one size. But you have whatever size you choose as the common and it has the ability to take the, you know, and pick up a penalty unit and run with it just the way it is. It drops down with the other, the other, the forehead of the seat drops down and you're in business. So that is a solution. Go ahead, Mark. I think I heard you. Hey, one other thing here. If Mark comes back in, Don had mentioned earlier about using an old refrigerator for your storage of certain items. I can also add to that that, say, for instance, EMP for your radio. So you take your ammo can, put some cardboard or wood slaps inside of it to close from touching the sides of the ammo cans. Also, you can get Mylar bags, like from you go down to the dollar store and buy a bag of coffee, then you can get the next bigger size like some of your dried cap. And so you take your walkie-talkies, take tennis off of it, coffee-sized bag, the radio in it inside the cat food bag inside of your ammo can and then take the ammo cans and put them side to the refrigerator. And you might want to also put the refrigerator up on it. It's not coming in contact with the ground. And I know this is not comm... communications Tuesday, but it sparked the idea that what Donna touched on. Kind of like a fit on an ammo can, so what you're trying to do, a firewall in your computer is not just one big giant process. The process can be applied to the refrigerator, even rubber magnetized gasket or other EMT, whatever makes it through that firewall is going to make it. Then you get to the two inside mylar bags that are insulated from the inside of the ammo can about ground. summer, let with a pair of around relatively easy. You can really solve a lot of your, and also if you get two of them, then get some two by sixes, then maybe eight feet, and then you can stack up stuff underneath it and maybe a small hassow to out. And we still have Don with us. Yes, we do. Don jump in their place. Go ahead. You know, storage, we can cover a whole bunch of things on it. And there's primer and powder storage. You guys, that ain't a bad idea, that refrigerator, it gives you another barrier. around your powder. It's not as strong as a real safe. The seal is good. It's pretty much airtight too, isn't it? Well, not exactly airtight, but it's a... This service is provided by... Access code accepted. There are 12 participants in this conference. This conference is being recorded. Please announce yourself. Cover, reveting and bunkering to again minimize damage. You don't want everything piled up in one place if you can help it anyway. As I pointed out, Frank's son was logical and dispersed the ammunition. Of course the building itself was burned down. Oh well, can't cover everything. The idea is if you had been in place, if somebody had been right there, you could actually have recovered part of the munitions depending upon how the fire started and where the fire was. consider, unless it's, again, set by somebody who puts accelerant in many locations, et cetera. That's something that can happen, too. The big thing here, again, is why, on top of everything else, caching. In fact, you can use refrigerators for caching. You can use transport cans, 50 gallon or 55 gallon or 40 gallon or 30 gallon plastic large mouth barrels, open mouth top. They're really good, all these work. Now the candle can is still part of this formula. Or another containment device is still carrying like the powder for instance, it's in its original containers. Or it's in another container, it can even be sidewalled with additional buffer and protection. So it offers a little bit of disruption in the event of a failure or something going wrong. This is something that is always taken into consideration also with fuel storage. And it's why I shouldn't have again. Don't put all your eggs in one basket. Don't provide that much more in the way of, you know, accelerant for any exciting event that might develop. And I would go to the point where in future situations you dig in and actually bury or at least put into carns, propane tanks, fuel containers. You distribute them. Don't just have them all in one pile. And that way in the event of any kind of action or attack, unless it's a, again, there's a massive amount of flame that can happen, chances are you have a higher survivability rating for most all of your combustibles. And this is true also with regard to munitions. Multiple containers. Pick up one refrigerator, build it up, and then go get another one, do the same thing. Watch where people get rid of stuff or watch for freebies on Craigslist. There's the best one, Don. Because fridges show up there all the time and freezers and many cases though they actually work That's the problem that balance is do I get another wonder do I need a free refrigerator for some other project? A lot of guys use them for smokers by the way, too If you didn't know yeah, I was gonna go there, but another thing they could be is a car. Oh, yeah Well, you know here's the other thing. Oh, here's it's amazing how the refrigerator is such a utility box and Don't forget that many a worm farmer run out of refrigerators, not for storing the ones that are in little canisters. They flip them over and put them on the ground, and they develop their worm population inside the refrigerator, and use the lid to help control the weather conditions so they don't flood out. All kinds of neat stuff can be done with a refrigerator. Hey, Mark. You know, a company vehicle, so I advise the folks F-250s are for the Broncos with the open back. I like to consider putting a fifth wheel back there along with the ball with the fifth wheel because a lot of trailers require fifth wheel type of gooseneck operation. It's good to have both. Gooseneck, fifth standard fifth wheel, utility balls in all sizes as far as for towing the trailers. And something that Mike brought up, remember guys, you can take two pieces of flag steel, cut a couple of holes, and you get yourself some case harden bolts. Don't just use raw green, you know, slash well grade. And what you do is you weld a female ball hitch to the one plate. And if you want to move a Piddle unit, you don't have the ability of you only got a ball hitch system. You keep this on board the vehicle. I would have three or four of these with a recovery vehicle anyway. And what you can do is literally put the one plate on top of the other, either side of the round, Piddle hitch on the trailer. You run your bolts through with your washers and your lock nut or bolt, depending on your speed gauge. Minimum would be 5-16s. My 16, what am I talking about? 9-16s. half inch, whatever you're going to use, lock it down and you've got a way to tow that trailer out with a conventional ball. Now the reason I say make two, three, or four of those, well, if I'm in the field and I hook that up to something, I may just have other trucks working as the tow packages and I actually have the recovery primary vehicles doing all the basic work to set them up. By the way, when he was talking about earlier with a tank retriever or a recovery vehicle, a lot of those are not dragon wire forgimmies. They're not the dragon wagons or the wreckers. There's also a tank recovery vehicle that's based upon a tank. And those are heavy armored transports designed to bring those in. They've got to be big enough to haul the biggest boys back. by towing them back, pulling them back off the battlefield if at all possible without a trailer. You're just brought back by brute force is what it comes down to. Anyway, I hear the music. Don, can you be able to stick around? You gotta go. I'm here till the bottom, Mark. Very good. We've got some beer candy for everybody. We come back. Little hump. It's holiday season. It's Christmas time. Merry Christmas, everybody. God bless our republic. Death to the new world of order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen, the empires on the run. March both day and night. Hoorah! We'll be back right here. Remember, Colonel Latose of your enemy. Doesn't mean it was whether or not you believe in Christmas. I know some of our guys listening in the chat would say, well, I don't believe in Christmas. Well, who cares? Look at it this way. Your enemy hates it. It's a lot of fun. You'll find out who your enemies are in the area because they're typically the hypersensitive powder puffs that make up the ranks of the enemy corps. So, you know, do them a dirty deed. turn their ears red, their eyes will pop out of their heads, their brains will leak out of their ears, and then you can laugh and move on down the road doing other things. Don, go to the next one. Yeah. Number for Night Vision webpage, take us out. 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