December 7, 2016
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1h 1m
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2016
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Mark Koernke discussed military aircraft design and procurement issues, focusing on helicopter vulnerabilities and cost-effectiveness of alternative platforms. He detailed how Chinook helicopters are misused as assault aircraft despite being designed for cargo transport, explained the superiority of Russian military equipment in certain applications, and extensively covered DIY ground attack aircraft concepts using gyrocopters and ultralight aircraft armed with various weapons systems. The show included technical discussions of aircraft modifications, fuel systems, and comparative analysis of military versus civilian aircraft platforms.
- chinook helicopter
- military aircraft design
- gyrocopter
- ground attack aircraft
- ultralight aircraft
- russian military equipment
- defense procurement
- weapons systems
- aircraft modifications
- pearl harbor anniversary
- preparedness
- diy weaponry
- military surplus
- aircraft maintenance
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Or do you wish your children in fear, O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the supreme law of the land, preserve our great Republic in each God-given right, and pray to God, get the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true, not free, But we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each god-given right, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep, and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave, well, the land of the free? Intelligence report, I'm R. Kurnkey. Third to victory for all brothers and sisters. behind the lines in occupied territories. You were listening to us on the Indiana Freedom Talk radio.com, AM and FM microstations, A-Stations, Golden Spike Technologies East and West of the Mississippi. Good afternoon to our friends in the Aleutians and let's not forget the great state of Jefferson and Guam and I did this this morning. Let's go in the other direction. Puerto Rico, that other territorial holding that you just are supposed to forget about. There's a lot of people there that do, though. Longness so they can get more welfare. For everybody out there, it's a beautiful... It's weapons Wednesday here. And again, to date, my goodness, it is... So, it's the 7th of December. It's the 8th year of open Fabian, the socialist, and Soviet socialist occupation of America with a K. 2016, old earth calendar 2016, year of battle. busy to say the least beautiful day today we might get some snow they say tonight still not frozen ground was this hope it uh... cloudy but doesn't quite hit us the way they're talking it may not because uh... it's purely a matter of catches catch can we got a bubble of uh... bouncing all over the place and may slide south of us may slide east of us may not even come anywhere near us. This is that time of year and the Great Lakes do some really interesting stuff when it comes to how they affect the weather conditions. So not a surprise. Of course it is the anniversary of Pearl Harbor. 75th anniversary and a lot of the veterans are gone that were there or around at the time. Well I don't know a friend of mine, his dad, went into service just before Pearl Harbor. About the time that they had put them on ships and actually were sending them they would have normally routed them to Pearl Harbor ended up going to war and His ships his transport ships were routed along the deep southern Pacific route They went all the way to Australia and were of course dropped into Australia to form the Boone line Brisbane line take your pick up Anyway, as he reported, just after Pearl Harbor, they dug in there. They had no guns, no equipment, no support, no technology whatsoever, guys. They just went with the troops and whatever they had on board the ships. They dumped them off on the Australians and then those ships ran like hell back to the west coast to get under the cover of naval guns. Of course, they had to run the gauntlet to get home. Then the troops had to find equipment. There wasn't any. They had some gear. They of course had whatever clothes were on their back and their duffel bag. The local Australian forces, since Australia had already been at war for quite some time, the Australian Home Guard donated what was left over to the US troops, which was a whole bunch of hand-me-downs. And out of the 3,000 or so men that made up the unit, the American Expeditionary Unit that was there, Let's see, he had a 333 BSA Elephant Rifle. He said he was one of the lucky ones. He only had 20 rounds, that's all they had for it that somebody would come off of. The guy next to him had a .22 caliber short gallery gun from a circus. It was any number of different weapons of any type you could imagine. No two the same and in some cases muzzle loading shotguns. They had two machine guns. They were Maxim machine guns, a German from World War I. that had been pulled out of a World War I museum in Australia, one of them locally there in Brisbane, and they were given the ammunition that they could scrounge up, which was a couple of cans of ammo per gun. They dug a trench line for defense of the bay, and then they had three strands of barbed wire in front of them, and that was the Brisbane line. That was the extent of their defenses. Japanese Navy, during all the other actions that took place, progressively came into Brisbane Harbor there and everybody thought, oh here we go. They had apparently seven guns to their name. Nothing over a three inch shell could be fired. And the Japanese came in, circled around the bay, and took off and left. Which everybody thought was quite amazing. Everybody's waiting to fight the Japanese soldier like my friend. He was a medic, by the way. And so hitting the ground as the war started, he obviously, progressively was armed up better and survived through to the very end of the war and was with the group that was ready to land. He was a medic ready to land with the first wave in Japan if the nuclear, the two nuclear attacks failed. And they were briefed and they were talking about 85 to 100% casualties with the first wave alone. And he said he'd seen bad, this was gonna get really bad. They all knew it. Everybody understood that. when the bombs were successful, those guys lived. That would be a kicker, wouldn't it? They threw you in the beginning of a war, you're in for the duration. He went through the whole war from front to back and they put him right up front with the first echelon after all of that action and he probably would have died at the very end of the war. Probably would have never have survived to be talking to me. Always kind of points out, he goes, you know, if we'd had to go in, we wouldn't be having this conversation here. I'd have been dead with all the rest of them. So just thought process on that, how they value you guys. Yeah, yeah, you're so valuable. Let's put your, you've done the Omen's job for four years nonstop. Let's put you up front where you're gonna be the first one to drop just to make sure we kill you off one way or another. We don't want you to go telling anybody what you saw. Yeah, I understand how that game works. They don't care about helicopter pilots. So, does rocket protection like the Inher-Affron Chinook helicopter pilots, for example? Well, Chinook shouldn't be doing what they're doing. Remember what I've said? Okay, the SHITHOOK is a wholesale helicopter delivery system. It's not supposed to be a frontline aircraft. SHITHOOKS were supposed to come in with the SAFEWAVE. In other words, if you go to assault something, you don't use shit hooks up front because they're a horrible bullet magnet. And what's happened is, instead of using the little birds, well we grounded a bunch of them where we gave them the Israelis, those asses. The ass had Israelis get our stuff before we do now and get it instead of us. So what happened is, a bunch of the aircraft that should have stayed in our hands is over there in their hands. and or we give it to other people. This has happened before. For many wars now, we get the second hand or we get the short stick. And we should, none of these, those big aircraft are nothing but, first of all, they're very unsurvivable as far as, you know, if you'll notice, every one of these catastrophic kill events is because we had all our eggs in one basket. SEAL Team 6, all of them are in the big birds, where it's just one big chopper. Well, if you have two or three aircraft, at least you're spread out amongst a wider area and you have the ability to put fire on something from one direction or another, one type of aircraft or another, and at least you're, again, able to hopefully get everybody else down. If it looks like it's too hot, at least you can get part of your force on the ground. But you've got these wholesale delivery aircraft, which were, anybody would tell you back in the day, you're crazy. We don't put these up front. They still are at risk. Any military aircraft can be shot at. And the Chinooks were designed to be very, very much a hyper backup. They were very paranoid, just like skyscrapers and everything else we've talked about. When they first put the Chinooks in service, they had three complete backup hydraulic systems on board. If you shot out of line, your crew chief's job was to pay attention what was going on and the pilot or the co-pilot or the engineer registered something. Then what they would do is the air crewmen on board would go to a particular bus, a junction, and they could route to the second hydraulic line in that grid like your circulatory system, and the chopper wouldn't go out of control. But back in the 90s, that was a real big to-do that you could buy. Now you could buy five Chinooks for the price of three. Well, the way you can buy five Chinooks for the price of three is they've got a pare down model that doesn't have all of the backup systems on it. Well, when you don't have the backups and your primary hydraulic system takes a hit, you have a tendency to go down like a really spinning, funny rock. Because the Chinook with that front rear rotor system, if either one is lost for power, how do you auto gyro down? How do you get control of the aircraft? You don't. She spins around in a circle until she destroys herself like a kinetic energy machine. They're flying them. They are supposed to fly them. They are okay to fly, but they're not. It's like me saying that your semi-truck is big, bulky and heavy, so let's use it as a combat APC. It is big, bulky and heavy, isn't it? It does a great job delivering goods, doesn't it? Wouldn't be real good at stopping bullets, would it? So it's big and bulky and heavy and it looks really impressive if I painted it OD green, but it wouldn't be an APC, would it? Well, see, that's the thing about helicopters. It works the same way. Think about it this way. Somebody decided we should take Peter-built semi-trucks with helicopter wings on them and try to use them as assault aircraft. And it was the dumbest idea they came up with, but it's kind of like, well, you go with what you got because the bastard stuck you in it. See, that's the problem. It's a semi-truck. It's a delivery thing. Look at how many ways you see it used. Usually it's kicking cargo out the back. It can drop stuff off in really unique places. Once the pilots get lots of skill, oh yeah, they can do phenomenal things. That's true of every generation of helicopter pilots that's been out there. Any time, once they've got hours and hours of government gasoline to run, it's amazing how good they get. But the problem is, they're still driving a semi truck instead of a very flexible and articulate mono rotor bird. And there's two different worlds. The Black Hawk and the Black Hawk, every helicopter we've had always has some problems. The Huey, when it came out, had two thing issues that were very quickly taken care of. And remember, the Huey, UH1, we got the A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M models. Literally, think about it. Every one of those is a different variant. And by the time you get to the later model, there are many parts that don't fit on the first model. That's how many changes were made to make that aircraft perform within better specifications based upon listening to the pilots and improving it. The Black Hawks had the same, but the Black Hawks had other issues, one of them was stress cracks real quick. That was dealt with. But then the second thing that the Black Hawks and a lot of the other helicopter fleet had was a problem with communist Chinese parts being made. You know, there was black market parts being bought by the Oi boys once these kosher mafia pieces of filth got into the DOD big time. And they got Blats and Steen, Blats and Steen and Schmittberg to go under the counter and buy from fake companies what were supposed to be mil-spec government parts. And what happened is those parts, those counterfeit parts are all through the system and it literally parked our aircraft. Well, we got to keep killing people. We got to keep that opium trade going. So what happened is a lot of the other aircraft, and because of high mileage on the ones that were left and they could only fly them without so much maintenance, as in major maintenance, because of this, the shit hook and others were pushed forward to where they did the missions they shouldn't be involved in. If they are involved, they should be involved with a complete complement of support aircraft and fixed-wing low-flyers whose job it is to make sure nobody shoots at them. But when you start thinking you're going to take the shit hook and use it like you would a Huey, well, you're going to get your ass shot off. It looks really cool because they make it look like a bee. Actually, they've gone full circle. Here's the thing. If you do any real research on helicopter development, Years ago, we actually gunned up the older helicopters like a B-17. We're now doing the same thing with the... forgive me... with the Chinooks because they're pressed into service and we have no choice but to use them. But back in the day, they figured out real quick that these big birds were a big loss and a whole lot of extra junk on board slowed them down even more than they were already slow. So the idea was that you had a family of aircraft that made more intelligent sense. The reason the family of aircraft has disappeared is because we got $9 trillion stolen from the Department of Defense that should have been spent on our boys. Problem? It's not the economy. No, it's not just the economy. It's the great, right out gross theft that's taken place by the Shysters who have gotten into the system and run with the money out of the country. that $9 trillion will buy you a hell of a lot of little birds. I thought it was $16 trillion. Yeah, well that's the debt. We want to know the higher number. $25, $35. The number between all of them is so far up there that it's, well, you know how it works. These numbers aren't even real anymore. I know. The $9 trillion is this year's number that was for the first with a quarter that they acknowledged. That was the first part. And first it was, remember, we thought it was a big deal, we only had 3 trillion and 2 trillion missing back before 9-11. Now it turns out that, oh hell, once they got all that pickle-smoking mirrors BS going, they ripped us off to the point where we don't know how far around the corner we are. That's why, again, this whole thing with Trump bringing Goldie sucks in. I should tell you right now, they're going to try and cover their tracks on the theft that these OID boys have been involved in. That's all this BS is. But again, I'm the helicopters. The whole point here is that you're running with what you got, but it's because nobody's willing to replace the aircraft that should have been replaced and should be in the field instead of those aircraft. And we already have good designs we could use. All the helicopter drones, all that those are, well they could be used for defense, I mean they could be, they would be nice expendables, but you were talking about cost, you know you're gonna get raped down the cost on those things when the time comes to actually build them. Because again, they're gonna, again it's an RC toy, it's a big glorified RC toy. Years ago, well actually I'll go one step farther, I know this, the Air Defense School, they already droned up every helicopter that we have that they shoot the snot out of for target practice. They're completely droned over. They can fly any helicopter we have as a drone aircraft and they've been doing it for 25 years. And do it all from remote control for miles or tens of miles or 100 miles away. They've been doing it. I've watched, I had a tape from the Air Defense School, 80 hours worth of them shooting down helicopters. Repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat. I think there were probably, I'd say 400 aircraft destroyed in the videos watching. And it's all from the test range there with the Air Defense School and the Air Defense Research Group. And everything from fly-around missile technology that goes out, goes across the battlefield behind the choppers, swings around five, six, seven miles, and comes up from behind and blows their tail right out. What comes right up their hind end, right up their blowpipe. And it's all camera so they can watch it every step of the way. All smart, all smart bombs, all smart missiles. But then they've got the ground imagery. While you're watching the smart play where they show you what the camera sees, they also show you the ground camera monitoring the chopper that's flying along unmanned. And these helicopters are put in the air. They're launched. They're put in the air. They fly circles. They do evasive maneuvers. They fire flares. And they do it all remote control. Nobody's on board. That's been around for now probably 35 years, 40 years. Because they've been doing it since they've had the helicopters available, it's just now the technology is lighter and smaller, but still the mechanical technology to switch a chopper over to a drone, it's not really changed because it still requires the same boxes and pods to maneuver the controls to actually operate the control systems, the control surfaces. So as far as the drones go, they'd be specific built RC toys as opposed to taking an existing helicopter or jet and converting it over. The Russians did many of these in the Salish family of jets. And then in helicopters, they did the same thing we did. They probably stole the technology from us. They may have figured it out themselves, but why do that when you could use American dollars to figure it out and then you just steal it? I don't know, the Russians help for most big time on that. Well, I'll tell you what the insult is. Think about this. We're flying as many Russian helicopters in Afghanistan as we are American. Yeah. Why are we flying? In fact, they were just going to buy helicopters for Afghanistan again. And what did they propose to buy for Afghanistan? They didn't propose to give them Kiowa OH-58s or OH-6Us or old UH-1s or even some tired Blackhawks. You know what they said? Give them the Russian birds. They fly longer with less maintenance and they're more reliable. Oh yeah, we always have that. Well, they're built like a brick doghouse. So again, what's the problem with that? Well, shouldn't ours be? You see my problem with that? It's like, oh, the Russian stuff, they always do this, it's inferior and this and that and the other. Yeah, but guess what? Ours are all sitting either parked or busted up or they don't have spare parts for them. On the other hand, almost everything the stinking Russians have built is still flying, either with original parts or with easily acquirable, simple to make replacement parts. And they keep flying and that they're pretty survivable if they take a hit because they're still built wonky and clunky. I can't say it and I'll probably get my ass kicked to say it but the Russians I think, I mean there's a 2.50 and superior, I think it's superior over our F-35. That's the point line of aircraft man, it's kicked ass. As far as I'm concerned they got our butts kicked and also with helos, I think the Russians have a superior military than we do. I really do. Well if you want to check, take a look at who some of the, what aircraft some of these guys were killed in over in Afghanistan and these horrible helicopter wrecks. And we're talking special warfare units, right? Don't they get the best of the best? Don't they get the shiniest and the newest? Don't they get the super secret stealth stuff, right? If you pay attention and you go back through the last 10 years of clandestine warfare units dying, you'll find that half of the aircraft they died in were Russian aircraft that got shot down. Now because when all of them get shot with something big enough to put a hole in you the size of a Volkswagen, chances are you're coming down. But the thing is that the reason they, well you know the question you have to ask is, well why are they flying those Russian birds? They can't fly in reverse for one thing. Well the idea is they can fly well and keep flying. In other words, you might get the parts and you might not because the OiBoy supply system for the American components is not reliable. On the other hand, the Russian system, crude and rude. Let me give an example. Years ago, we have a bunch of these. It's not a secret. We know where they are. The other side doesn't need to. There was a supplier out west. He was buying all this Russian stuff up. We got several of the APCs out of the Indiana, Illinois area too. But in fact, a lot of the stuff you see that's in the Ukraine, we have all of that. I mean, these suckers are ski, they're ski boats on land, especially in the snow. It's really impressive. It is. I have to say I'm impressed. Better than our equipment in cold weather snow operations, but then again, it's Russian. But we bought Helix helicopters for $8,000 apiece. Helix is the air ambulance helicopter of the guys we rounded up the money. I did the routing on the cab on the purchase and it was $8,000 per helicopter. We picked up six of them. Now every one of them flies. Every one of them works. Every one of them in fact was easy to get parts for. Go try and find an American counterpart for $8,000 or less. Because he didn't pay $8,000 for each one. One had a really crappy paint job. So we got him a knockdown 800 on that and then there were a few other parts that we knew we had that we could access that needed to be changed out. So we were going to fix them and he didn't have to. So we knocked several hundred dollars off one of the other ones like that. Again, the Helix Chopper has been around for this particular bird probably now what 35 years? And you know what? The pilots that jump behind the stick on them said, man, this is a really, really receptive, comfortable helicopter to fly. And that's a clamshell rear end, too. It's like an ambulance. You can use it like into LA. We're using them as air ambulances. That's what the Russians did quite a bit, but they're also a troop transporter. They make a great, you can move a 12-man team without any problem. But they also set up, almost half of them were set up as air ambulances so they had the stretcher rack systems so you could take those out easily and put the troop seats, troop seats fold down. So you just fold them up, they're just canvas and tube anyway. And so then you can bank your troops left and right and they can exit two directions. They can go right out the RSN and there's one side to the access hatch. That is actually an emergency for the pilot too, pilot co-pilot. and they can access left and right, of course out the front of the aircraft. But the whole point is $8,000. I kicked myself in the rumpus, we were talking about this a year and a half ago, guys, remember the D20 and D30 fighter trainers? I told everybody about it, I said, hey. $6,000 a piece guys, $4,000 a piece. We did get a few, one of our guys picked up some of those. But you know, those things were going, you could have bought every one of those jets for under $8,000, although one was 11,000 but you got two planes, spare parts, and a Romanian slave, slash a mechanic, all for $11,000. Wherever you put the planes down, he'd live, you just had to pay for his heating, eating, and food. and you had yourself a maintenance man. Well, you know, for $123,000 you could have had an entire fighter wing. And all of it was inside the US. Florida, Texas, etc. Problem, those planes in the last year and a half, two years, have jumped to $27, $29,000 and $33,000 apiece. So it would have been worth picking them up just to turn them around, kind of like houses, right? Pretty cool job, there's a helix and a pusher behind it. You have the same engine control. pretty cool little gyrocopters out there that'll do like $150 an hour. Well the gyrocopter's in another category but yeah there's a company that we've been talking with for quite some time and some of the guys bought them back in the 90s. They're four seat gyrocopters. The American Mate. I think we've got probably a dozen or two dozen in service because I know the guys were buying, they had a plan to buy so many and I don't know how many they picked up. Plus they were tracking down customers that had bought them that really weren't using them. It's like the BD5. I keep finding, I haven't found any in the last couple months again, but I keep finding these BD5 hanger queens where they're in garages. Someone just told me where one is yesterday. I know now where there's two more BD5s, I could probably get them for a couple thousand dollars. Those are little pocket jets, but we already have almost like 32, what we have 32? I collected 32 of those over the years. I've been able to point towards our people and we've been carrying them away. The one is upright, none of these are hanging on the ceiling like half of them were we found, where they're hanging on the side of barns on the inside or upside down on the barn, that was a cute one. The landing gear is bolted to the beams in the barn, in a hip-proof barn. In this case, it's sitting out, I know where it is, I got a good idea now, sitting upright, it looks like it probably needs paint, still needs to have about probably 15% of the sheet metal work, you know, riveted the rest of the way. They're all kits. And the other one was a slider, so it's gonna need some repair, but it would be either a parts aircraft or it could be rebuilt. And again, probably 2,000 for the set. So there's an example. with Bill Gibson a long time ago. They had that gyro copter on there. Helix with a pusher engine. That thing hauled ass. Well, it was a program that actually the US military adopted and then kind of laid off to the side and then it came back again in the 50s and they laid off the side. You might recall when Bush came in that rather than buying helicopters, the proposal when they were supposed to put the, you know, when Bush lied the way, well, wait a minute, talking just like Donald Trump is now, when George Bush lied, He proposed that they were going to be buying a fleet of gyrocopters because they would be cheaper to operate. And they were going to use those as part of the fence and wall system before the Israelis really came in and pushed their virtual fence, we got to get the opium across the border program. Because they realized, oh god, they're going to actually, they're talking about doing it. Well, immediately they went in there and told George, George, you're going to mess up the dope trade, can't do that. So Lee didn't do Jack squat. Only the little guys got hit. The big ones kept pushing dope and opium is now a big problem in the US because of it. But gyrocopters were one of the things that were brought up as a solution. So that tells you, it might even listen to us because we talked about gyrocopters that whole time and then about the time that we started discussing the ones that were being purchased by our guys is about the time that all of a sudden there was this really brilliant government idea to buy gyrocopters during the early odds. so it doesn't surprise me. I mean again, it's, you know, while they're listening, I know that. The big thing about the gyrocopter is a short takeoff and landing. If you know what you're doing, you can be on the ground landing within 18 feet, you can be stopped. Once you're coming in for, you know, a touchdown in an area, you can land an area the size of a swimming pool. Now, I wouldn't land in the swimming pool, but you can land an area the size of a swimming pool. Yeah, you can stop on a dime. Yeah. Hey, Mark. shot listening and that gyrocopter Bond used one of his movies? Yes, he had the one that was a fold up kit. As a matter of fact, we got, well it's not quite the same, it may be the same company, but one of our guys bought one. He just doesn't have the guts to fly it. Mr. Bond, we expect you to die. We expect me to talk. I expect you to hear. So yeah, but it's the same aircraft, same baggage. It's the same bags, exactly what you saw in the movie. He also picked up one of the ultra lights, same way, and it's the same thing. It's like, well, you want to try it? No, I think I'll leave it in the bag for now. And it's like, you know, it's one of the pusher types. It's actually an ultra light that, you know, has its own power pack. So, you know, it's not the kind with the fan on your back. It actually has a boom out the rear. You probably saw these in a couple of movies. They're really cool. They look like a bat, almost like a bat kite. They have a boom that goes out the back with a long drive shaft for the motor. The other model of the motor is actually out on the end of the boom. And he has the one that's the short, has the long shaft. And it's a neat idea. It works. It's just you gotta be willing to, you know, you gotta stand it up. You gotta keep it in line. And once you get off the ground, it's just a matter of balance, you know. So we're not thinking of, looks like a little one man. The standard gyrocopter, the one he had was a breakdown model. Not all of them are breakdown models. In fact, most of the kit models that came out of Popular Mechanics, remember, are rigid weld. You do bolt things together, but they're also aircraft welded, so that by the time you're done, you've got a pretty firm airframe. And no, we mount guns on those. In fact, one of the first Browning projects we did, this is where I tried, in fact, in Peyton, surviving the coming class by James Wesley Rawls. Remember his little ground attack aircraft? Where do you think he got that from? Well, hey look, now that I think about it, there is a guy in town here that's got one of those for sale. He got it flaged out and everything. How much did he want for it? I never bothered to stop and ask him. He runs a local farm. Here you want to mess with him, do it this way. How much do you want for that death machine? That'll put him on the defensive right away. I'll sit there the next time I'm on my side of town, ask him if I'm sure he hasn't sold it. I'm sitting there, all yours with a for sale sign on. I'll walk you right through it. We've got enough time here. Here's how we armed up the first one. Back in the day, we didn't have any of the other goodies you got now. You don't want bump fire, that's worthless. Remember the .22 caliber accelerator? It looked like a gun lock that went inside your trigger guard. It had a little hand crank and what it is, it turns into a mini Gatling gun. Well the hand crank is actually mounted with a what? Oh, it's a screw that looks like a fishing reel. It's got a fishing reel handle. So you unscrew and take the little fishing reel handle off. You mount a hex shaft and you take a small motor and you mount it to that. Now, all of a sudden with that little wire that runs away from that to your switch control, which is a push button, or a trigger button if you want to use a video game control, when you pull back on the video gun trigger, what does the motor do? What does the trigger do? What does the gun do? Trust me guys, when you use an electric motor, this is why you have variable speed output. It's just like a drill, like a battery powered drill. In fact, a battery powered drill will run it just as well if you had to. That's another trick that nobody wants to talk about. If you just had it on the ground, you put the accelerator module inside the trigger guard, all it is is like a tap it. All it does is it's got a piston. When you turn it, the eccentric pushes the piston back, which pulls the trigger. So it's not a modification of the gun. Now you take the same idea on the ground if you wanted to do like you know Hell's Bells and you grab yourself the cheapest little You know, battery powered drill you can get smallest ones so it's not too cumbersome. Now you don't want to worry about making it look too fancy. Put a bipod on the front, put a beta drum in the gun, put the accelerator in the trigger guard, take that hex shaft and put it on the shaft where it belongs. Take your little battery drill, suck the gun up to your shoulder and the other hand, instead of cupping up under the stock, holds the battery, holds the drill. And when you want to fire, you just hold the pistol grip, your index finger doesn't do anything. And when you pull the trigger on the perpendicular hand guard there, the perpendicular pistol grip, which is the drill, then the gun goes until it runs out. Now you take that electric system, put a little aluminum fixture there to hold your small motor in place. Take off all the extraneous parts that you don't need to minimize the size. Example, take off the buttstock, put a skeleton stock on that. Now there's all kinds of shorty stocks, so that would be your option. But what we did is created a yoke so we could retain the pin in the spring. Take off the pistol grip and you can putty over or you can take a set screw or take again a fixture. Make a flat plate so you can hold just a little flat plate that's about the width of a pencil. It holds that one plunger and spring in place that the pistol grip hold in. Now you just shaved off a bunch of bulk and a few ounces of weight. The front hand guard, you take that off, you take the kickboard radiator from, you know, forced water heat or pressured heat. You cut that, put a couple of screw clamps on it, you create a ventilator system that goes on in place of your front hand guard. Now you've got a cooling system. It doesn't liquid cool, it air cools, but those air fins that are used for distributing the heat help to shed the heat from the barrel when you're doing rapid fire. Now, the electronic motor follows the command of the trigger system that you come up with. You can either have a push button, because that's cheap, fast, and easy. You can use even a light switch from a wall socket if you had to for a switch. When you push it one way, it fires. When you pull it back, it stops. That's crude and rude. or you can gimmick up a video game fire control system which some of the guys did later on because there's tons of them available and everybody throws them out. You can get them from all over the place especially from the ones that were made for computers for nothing. Okay, well what you got then is a, and now you have to mount it, you need to be able to aim it. Well, now we have the age of lasers. Back in the day when we were doing this you had the lasers the size of the laser that was on the terminator's 45 that was the size of the cigar and a half. about one inch in diameter and you know, was big bore. Nowadays you got lasers that you can buy your choice of color and price in bargain basement or mid price and these still are cheap. And all you do is sight it, sight the laser to the point of impact for the gun, mount that on a rigid frame on the side or wherever you want to, of course it does not interfere with the operation of the aircraft. You need to either drop the brass or you bag the brass. Do you orient the ejection port so that it pushes away from the aircraft and down? Which you're kind of dropping more junk on people. I guess I don't want to get hit with a piece of brass from 1,000 feet up or 800 feet up traveling at, you know, 90, 100 miles an hour. But the idea is I also might want to bag the brass because I might want to reload it because I'm short on ammunition and the war has been going on for a while. Well, either way, the other thing is if it's inside, if I mount it inside, like you see in Patriot surviving the coming collapse, Then having the brass rolling around inside the hull is a bad thing, but if you have bag catchers for the brass and you orient the extractor so that the thing drops down and you know gravity assists, then you should have no problem because every time you land the gunner is going to be of the ground crew are going to pull the mags, reintroduce the mags. Nowadays it'd be beta drums. Back in the days it would be the 75 or 125 round Chinese 223 drums. or 40 round mags and 30 round mags depending on what you had. But one way or another what you've got is a pocket coin on aircraft that could come in and strafe an area and dump a whole lot of lead onto something real fast and leave. Other alternatives would include recoilless or gravity bombs. Anything can drop a gravity bomb. And the big thing is that dropping a piece of gravity ordinance, you can either impact, explode, or you can time it by putting a timer system and pull it. And when you pull, it rolls in, stumbles around through the aggressor, and, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop. Psychologically, that coming from the air at low altitude really kind of messes with your head. But having a lot of like a nose full of say two two three guns. Here's the cool thing Nowadays you can buy ar-15 uppers in watt 762 by 39 545 by 39 what do you got a lot of? Your aircraft would actually have the ability to be able to use three different standards small calibers of ammunition slight rifle calibers and If need be you could also go to chain fed you got 9 millimeter. That's not your first best choice, but it's been done before and you can get chain fed 9mm uppers guys go look at CenterfireSystems.com CenterfireSystems.com CenterfireSystems.com You can load up 1000 rounds of 9mm and as long as you're willing to pull that little red button I guess you probably could put some van damage down range. See so that makes that little pocket gyrocopter kind of a little biter on somebody. And again, don't expose yourself. Nap of the year, finish pilot policy. They can't see you, they can't shoot at you. And when you're a ground attack aircraft, the closer you are to the ground, the less opportunity anybody has to figure out where you're coming from or where you're going. And by the time they respond, you're already gone. Just don't fly in a line of four, five, or six aircraft. Why? After the first one goes over, they usually start shooting at the other guys following you, you know? So the first rule is, it's kind of like Mad Dog 2020. When you get into the area, you come in as a say a four or five aircraft group. You break up, you run your strafe, you do your strafing runs, drop your ordnance at the same time and get the hell out of Dodge like a Derringer. And they're waiting for another run and it isn't going to happen. Not until you reload, but you can come in and offer a whole bunch of firepower real quick. Napalm, napalm is easy to make. Napalm distributing units are even easier to make. And it would be another option so that you create, you know, rain fire, drop bombs, fire them up with some small pellets and get the hell out of there. And just pick one target and make him terminal. Pick a truck, pick a Humvee, pick an APC, put some bullets on it, put everything on it you can. And drop a gravity bomb on it, or at least in this general direction to make it nervous. So here's all kinds of fun stuff. And again, what's your cost? Well, it doesn't take much to train the pilot and the better the pilot gets at what he's doing, the more experience he gains, the more lethal he becomes. It's a coin aircraft and it would work. In fact, it worked quite well. By the way, the military actually built aircraft of these type back in the 50s and then made the program disappear because they realized it was too egalitarian. They made smaller aircraft in the OH-58. They made aircraft that were one man basically instead of gyrocopters, they were attack helicopters. But literally the pilot was flying in the breeze, they were armed up just like a little bond helicopter, and they don't want you to know about it because you're not supposed to think about it. Because that would be stupid and goofy, except the government developed them. Okay, so when anybody, I just described for you basically the old AT, you know, in fact it's the, what was it, AT-AT program, it was the AT-AT program. And, oh, wait a minute, that's like the AT-ATs from Star Wars. Yeah, you know, the little ones. Yeah. Wait a minute, you're quiet tonight for some reason. Talk into the phone better. Go ahead. There we go. You're talking too far away from the microphone. Good question. Okay, probably a good question. Any question is a good question. Go ahead. Yeah, what is it? A stick and a cyclic mark on the ones you got? And a twist throttle on these gyros? I forget. It's a stick and a cyclic, right? Yeah. Well, the way these are set, okay, depending on the model that you've got, some of them fly just kind of like the Bren gun. They fly just like a conventional aircraft or almost like a car. The ones that you were talking about, the four-seaters, literally, they were, but the idea is they were trying to promote it like it's your, you know, home, your, your sedan. That you know, you jump into it and everybody wants to go for a short chop over to the next town like out in Texas or like out where the big states are. And, man, rather than traveling on the road and worrying about a ticket, you're doing 100 miles an hour and the four of you end up over at the restaurant you want to visit only in like a half the time. No wiggle around the road, just go straight to your objective, land. In fact, remember, job recouplers can land anywhere. So they actually had what's called a kidney. It looks like a kidney. It's a translator. And what it is is an analog, like a crude analog computer. And whatever you do with the stick, it is translated to what you would normally do with your pedal control. You still have pedal control too. But with your pedal and stick control with throttle regulation, your throttle regulation is mounted on the column, on the control, on the steering wheel. And it's all right there between that and your regular directional controls. But the directional controls are partially translated by that same kidney. Looks like a big metal plate. And as the thing turns, the different surfaces have contact components on them that force and move the different, they translate to other energy, the different controls that move the rudder and move the other control surfaces. And, you know, again, very components on the aircraft. They did this with the brain gun carrier the same way, so anybody who could drive a truck could drive a brain gun carrier. And the guy, these guys have a pretty cool idea, anybody who wanted to fly, it's as simple as possible. In theory, an 11-year-old could fly the plane, could fly the auto gyro. Which they could, even the standard model. I mean, they're crude, rude, and simple. It's just, oh my god, an 11-year-old flying? It's like, yeah, yeah, whatever, we used to do all the time. You know? Anything? No, go ahead. I was just saying you had a bunch of them. I just think gyros would be ideal for a 25-mile radius operation type deal. I mean, they're not going to stay in the air that long, right? It's purely a matter of... Now, here's the thing. One of the things we immediately did is we figured out how to... What we do is you go to the government, okay? They made drop tanks for everything, or supplemental fuel tanks. But drop tanks are no big deal. In fact, they're so screwed, sued, and rude, and simple, it's ridiculous. If you're willing, okay, think about this. Read upon P-51 Mustangs and P-38s servicing the B-17s of World War II. The bad part is drop tanks, if you engage and you've got fuel in a drop tank, it's fuel lost. But oh well, you still went farther on the drop tank, and every gallon you have in a drop tank is that much less that you're losing from your onboard storage. To do a drop tank on a little bird like that, all it is is with an arm's reach left or right. The tank is secured with a couple of single bucklers, just two of them. And all you do is you strap it in. You have a PTOK. You're just a regular on-off switch like you have on a lawnmower. And you have a junction so that you override the junction. You can be electronic or it can be manual. It doesn't make any sense to make it electronic. That's just more complicated. The pilot just has to pay attention and that they will you look over. You reach your hand down and both the controls are within five fingers apart from each other. The junction is where you link up the drop tank and it's also connected to the main tank. You can divert your fuel intake accordingly based upon what you want to use. The drop tank, of course, is what you want to consume first because you can jettison that to improve performance by losing weight. You also can do some really mean things because your drop tanks, like in Korea, when you see a lot of those guys dropping napalm, you might notice that you recognize some of the things they're dropping. The dropable expendable fuel tanks were the napalm generators. So you can actually take and use that as a secondary ordnance device and have it strapped on and drop it at your discretion. Like I said, the only thing is, remember you got, you know, literally asked to the blast, you're literally riding on a pop out of big, shall we say, Munson burner, but then again, it's going to be somewhere on your aircraft anyway. So the same rack that could be underneath the seat or to the right of the pilot station, on board the aircraft, left or right, is where you would have your drop tank, or drop tanks if you wanted two of them. Then you could increase your range accordingly. Now the thing is, it's like anything else. Your range on that is, it can be better than 25 miles. In fact, I don't know, I think it's 78 or it seems to be the first number with the older ones was 78 to about 119 miles depending on which tank you chose and how you lean out the fuel mix when you're flying. Because you can, it's just like anything else, you can regulate your fuel control. With the tank you could obviously increase range. Now remember, here's the thing about anything you add to an aircraft means you've got to have more energy to move whatever you add to the aircraft. So you do gain, but you've got to have a little energy used to move the extra junk you put on board. So there's a math formula there where you get a diminishing return at a certain point. And that's where the balance is. You can only strap so much extra junk onto a piece of equipment. The ground attack variant, one of the things I've mentioned is, again, is most of these little birds or the experimentals are twin cedars. One of the first things that's going to happen is you're going to eliminate your second person and that gives you 200 pounds of carrying capacity on board the aircraft. Right off the bat. Now remember that, okay, the typical little bird that we're talking about, if it's a gyrocopter, it's two men. Also, it has to accommodate two humans of average weight. Plus, typically it carries 100 pounds of cargo weight, or 150 pounds of cargo weight. Well, right off the bat, you're going to drop the second man. That gives you 200 plus pounds. You have the 100 pounds of cargo weight, which is always a variable in your flight performance. Now, you just gain 300 pounds worth of ordnance or equipment that you can carry. The restriction then is how aerodynamic is it. In other words, not. Well, no, it is. No, it is. But you've got to remember, see, OK, instead of thinking building onto the aircraft, think about what we did with a lot of our combat aircraft in the past, what was smart. They can do with any of our other planes right now, pylons. Using a pylon, it's a variable geometry option. If you can figure out a way to make a pod OK for a Browning machine gun, Then you build a pod for a Browning machine gun with however many rounds you want to put in it and you can link that up and your fire control your on-off switch for your electronic for your magneto, you know, but about about about about it. Okay. Well, that's the only thing you have to adapt. But if you want to switch that pod out to missile or to say, dropable ordinance, what happens is the dropable ordinance is held on by a frame that goes on the pylon. The frame actually holds the bomb or holds the napalm and when you are deciding to release it the same switch it would fire a gun is now a yellow switch that you know it's never a red switch it's a yellow switch for droppable ordnance. All this will be red because you're not going to change anything in the plane in the in the in the small bird but the fact of the matter is ultra lights they make a push pull a bit of a sess the push pull aircraft that everybody remembers from Vietnam beautiful little plane they used to call it was called the strike master or the SkyMaster, and they call the little one the MixMaster. The blender. That was a great airplane. Yeah, well the advantage is this, if you want to teach a person multi-engine then it is the best plane to teach a person to fly on. Why? It is a totally... It's a center of thrust. Right, it is a totally forgiving plane. If I lost the front engine, I don't have any inversion and torque that's going to drive me to the crash site. If I lost the back engine and not the front engine, I can keep right on going because either way there's no change in the torque to my lift package. Because there's an old saying that a twin-engine aircraft usually When you lose one engine, the other one flies you to the scene of the crash site. Yeah, you can pick those up cheap right now, Mark. I mean, real cheap. One of the reasons, you want to know why? They're actually pretty good aircraft, but one of the reasons is you've got to watch the electronic harness. That was their weak point. They were like the Chrysler of the air. Okay, that's the only thing to remember. The one thing that did in a lot of them that were bought privately after the war was failure to maintain or do maintenance and change out certain electrical components based upon the military specs. And the SkyMasters that were sold privately as civilian aircraft had a similar problem. It wasn't with every plane, but it was a pretty significant fire issue that had to be, was known in the industry. It's sad because the plane itself, I would prefer that over most any of the aircraft I could fly if I was looking at a fixed wing, high wing airplane to put into the field. Remember, here's the thing about all the planes. If it was a civilian model or the military model, all of them have the hard points on the wings. It's like the, oh come on, what's the name of the plane? There's a civilian