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Well, I'll tell you what we got that problem taken care of, the tool they needed me having to go to another toolbox and grab it because I knew where it was but nobody else might but everybody was on the upswing and they put back where it belongs. Fortunately it became only a five dollar replacement item you know what I mean the oil filter and you know just to be safe can other quart of oil so a hole in a an oil filter can be the demise of the engine and so I went in there and was it making a lot of noise the smoking rattling and then it just stopped probably because gravity sucks. and then she dies but that didn't happen we're in good shape and although like I said it's a very clean engine on the inside right now very clean anyway for everybody out there guys it is a beautiful rainy blah day here in Michigan Don what's it like in your neck of the woods and what's the day today please hey it is the sixth day of Fire Lord 2016 and it's a great day to you know change oil if need be or check for holes in the oil can or the oil filter. Again, the sixth day of... fuck on that for a moment, there is another subject. I would say I know someone who used to work in the General Motors service industry and back when they were selling those Grand Nationals, somebody came in and bought one and didn't know much about cars and went out and drove it and put the pedal to it and really enjoyed driving the car until the motor seized up at around 38,000 miles because the man never changed the oil in the car. That Grand National went about 38,000 miles on the factory oil. And then it said, you'll never do that to me again. On another related case, I know two different people who worked and slaved all winter and saved everything. And all they did was eat ramen noodles all winter to build a couple of the coolest Harleys you ever saw. And got them out in the springtime. And both of them went 60 miles, give or take two miles. One went 58 miles. The other went 62 miles. And they went that far because they were roller bearing bottom ends, but still those rings seized eventually because they'd forgotten to put oil in their motors, in their oil tanks. So again, you know, there's life expectancy of a turbocharged V6 on one oil can full of oil. You know, the oil pan full of oil, the factory oil, about 38,000 miles. And 60 miles, give or take, 2 or 3 miles on your Harley-Davidson with that roller-bearing bottom end if you don't put any oil in the oil can. I couldn't help but do that, Mark, because all three of those are true stories. Now, on to another true story. Let's carry that subject matter for just a moment and then I have to leave but this would be good emphasis for a little while Mark because you know that America that Obama Apologized to the world for after we dropped two bombs on Japan How come we didn't just take charge of the world? How come well in there are those that say that we did but how come we how come we aren't running the place now? Why? Because, well, we still have that in that time frame that basic thought about and there were a number of people who believed in the word freedom. That's why we didn't become the gangsters of the world when we were the only possessors of the atomic bomb. Granted, that window was short because, well, there were people working for the other side. In the side of the US? Yes. Including especially in FDR's administration that stole pretty much every secret that we had at the time. and everybody knows it, especially the FBI which progressively was taken over by the same communist. Yup. But I thought I'd bring that thought to the hour, Mark. I have to exit Stage South, but there's some subject matter there as far as, well, you know, America isn't as bad as Obama would paint us out to be, or the rest, some portions of the world. Because in that time frame we held the biggest hammer in the world, didn't we? In fact, we held that only nuclear hammer. How come in that time frame we didn't take advantage of that and how come we aren't running the world now? That's a testimony to America unto itself, isn't it Mark? Thank you, Mark, I have to go. Go, go, go. And again, thank you for sticking around. The technology was dealt with. Everybody got the parts they needed and we're, oh well, they're ready to roll. So you'd be careful too. Okay, see you in a little while. And for all of our friends at Don Bash, dog your number up before you go. Oh hey, if you go over to the website, ydtoe.us, if you call me, we can reduce the prices there. The phone number is 231-796-8458. Thank you Mark, God bless you. Very good, thank you sir. And again, a couple different things here. Actually I'm going to play a couple of piece of your candy real quick. I guess we're going to hit it a couple of times before we move on to other music only because again, I requested a replay, but I didn't hear it. And also again, apparently a lot of the people from when this came out, not congos, what the hell? Oh, there's always something that goes wrong when you're playing with the technology. It's okay, we can make it work, guys. Don't worry, calm down. We'll be there. We'll make it happen. We can do it, as they say. There we go, I got it. Oh yeah, perfectly queued up, but I gotta get there. We are now. I got the train in place and there are all the videos in there. We go in the audio tracks where it's supposed to be. And for everybody out there, and this is Felicia for and Bob and the crew at the tire store too by the way for the crew at the tire store and I guess you guys were into this game when it came out and also kind of have like the theme with some of your vehicles too kind of cool especially that browning I know that the tire yeah they got a Modu semi-auto that they bought back when it was affordable and it chugs away they've had it up at the Okemah Ranges more than a few times here we go for all of the crew at the tire store Lear Candy order lands theme short-change hero. Here we go. It has been a rainy day. It's been a spotty rainy day. Squalls more to the east of us than right here where we are. That's good. We like that. Keep that up. Let's see. Oh, before I forget, and I want to bring this up in the evening program, two major surplus has got a, I know because I've outfitted you or gotten hold of you because you were requesting, you sent an email. camouflage you know where can we get it what can we find a good price tax for whatever reason there's a flurry of it that's come down in price I think the big thing I'm seeing them a day right now and from the wholesale and digital camouflage is coming out in a big wave hashing from the China market quantities of the four basic digital color and then the flat color you know the standard now is OD green coyote brown and or desert tan okay and then don't forget There are several different names for them which came out here only a couple years ago. Really popular tearing from the inboard product lines. Axe is one of them. The ATX, not the lizard, that says this is in the fog or smoke pattern, which is actually pretty good. They've got plate carriers for $39 and $49. They've got a good chest rig with the air 15-meg pouch, plus a pouch, there's a bunch of other small pouches, $40, which is not bad. uh... the molly uh... m sixteen double mag and triple mag pouches two for fifteen dollars for either set either a set of two or the set of three and then they've got shotgun ammo shell pouches same thing two for fifteen dollars it's not the greatest price but it's a good price actually it's a great price for these things for the ATACs but i know if i shop around i could cherry pick here and there and get a piece of this and a piece of that but it's all in one place at on the screen. What I mess up on the last one should be Michael. Michael, Alpha, Joliet, Romeo, Sierra Union, Romeo, Papa, Lima Union, Sierra, Dot, Charlie, well, Mingo. I know it's an M word. So for everybody out there, that's at www.majorsurplus.com. 1-800-441-8855. 1-800-44-188-55. You get the catalog for what's on page 60 and 61. They have, do have at the top also the Matrix Assault Packs. They are a pretty good backpack. One of our callers of mercy said that's what they use down there in the southern part of California and for $70 as far as that rig goes it actually is a pretty decent pack. That's, of course these things are all being marked out at major by between 65 and 80 percent. To be quite honest at least two of the vests are $3 below wholesale. I can buy the exact same heavy armor plate carrier. But it cost me $42 from the cheapest of the wholesalers because I've been looking at the ATAC stuff waiting for it to come down. The biggest problem is it's being eaten up in wholesale. It's not coming down in price. They're just using it up and they're not replacing it. Okay? So a heads up. If you like the ATAC stuff, start scarfing up the cheap stuff or the sales stuff because For whatever reason either maybe this the aftermarket version of the stuff they've you know come down on them They could have done a lawsuit who knows? HK did this with airsoft rifles years ago They are more than a few years ago all the original HK stuff made by the maru company is now worth a chunk of change because They can't make it they couldn't make all they made these all metal so close that you can't tell the difference even on top of the guns They look just like the real gun across the board everything fits everything functions And they were beautiful, beautiful Airsoft metal rifles. They weren't cheap when they came out, but now they're collectors items. And they're worth a chunk of change in collector circles. And there are collectors of Airsoft, which has been around more in a few years now. You know, the thing is, it's a great way to have an HK-type gun on the shelf. You know, if somebody grabs it and runs with it, it's like, well, it is an Airsoft gun, you know. Oh, don't worry. Don't tell them. Let them find out for themselves. Ha ha ha. Anyway. ATACS, that's page 60 and 70. Forgive me, 60 and 61. Why did I do that one? And that is majorsurplus.com, 1-800-441-8855. The items that they have, some stuff. Again, cherry pick out of this catalog and you get some pretty good deals. On the ATACS, this is the brown ATACS, by the way. This is not the green range or what they call the Highlander or whatever. The backpack is in Multi-cam the one that I just mentioned the matrix. That's the only thing that's major that isn't a Tax on the whole the whole pair these two pages everything else is a tax $19 $20 for the hydration carrier with removable harness smaller backpacks different size backpacks So you can put a combat rate together from this and on a lot of extra pouches be quite honest I would go might be personally real quick if I was in a if I was in a hurry I do the vertical of the or forgive me tactical chest rig for $40 and take your pick of whichever of the mag pouches since I get 3 mag pouch, 3 mags in the pouch for the same price. Let me double check that. Yeah, I'd go over on the right side. They've got 2 for $15 and $750 a piece for the triple mag pouch. I'd add 2 of those onto the rig somewhere, probably on the backpack. And by the time you're done with all the extra mag pouches, all the other goodies, yeah. Well, actually, let's do it right here. $40, $55. What else do I need? I could go a hydration pack or I could go a backpack. If I was going to go a backpack, they offer two different types of backpacks. They also have an EMT pouch for $10, which is not a bad price. I'd go the level 3 assault pack rather than the Voodoo Tobago cargo pack. No, I'd go the... For $10 less, if I was just take every... If I was just outfit off this page, I'd go level 3 backpack. and down the lower corner for some extra mags, mag pockets for my M-Post Carrying Air 15 or Mini 14. I'd be grabbing at least two, maybe four, which means I'd have to add another $15 to the package. But yeah, for about $100, I could outfit pretty well. And if I want a few extra pouches, there are other extra pouches here in the ATAC. They do have the EMT pouch. That might be a good idea. It's basically a blowout kit bag. Look at the page and see what it is that makes it worthwhile for you. They also have separate heavy armor carriers. Then you're going to need mag pouches. You have to select what you have here available to match up with your gear. They have the K-Lite Gen 2 plate carriers also. One's $39.95. The last one I mentioned is $50. Okay, so it's $40 for one, $50 for the other, $10 difference. Again, they'll take Molly junk all day and you can hook them up and square them away and congratulations, you've got yourself a pretty decent system. So solutions, not just complaining about the problems, but what do I do? Why, we mildew, sir. We mildew. Anyway, next, and there's other things that major, but I'm not going to worry about that again. the bottom of the hour. I wanted to throw a little piece in here. I think I'm going to play. This is what's going on over in Europe. And as a matter of fact, this is only three minutes and 37 seconds long. Holland and Denmark have mentioned the lowlands before, guys. And as it turns out, one of their representatives, of course, they're charging him because he actually talked to him public. He's a politician. supposed to have immunity but not when the communists are finally in charge not when the jewish mafia is busy pissing in your face all the time oh no with political correctness you can't talk about anything other than what they said as the agenda which is why you end up having to go to war against them and kill every one of the bastards on the other side that's just me what do i know well except that that's what you're gonna have to do anyway here so congratulations well anyway little little idea what's going on overseas three minutes and nine seconds long i want to fit this in and for the posting and shooting over to me. Thank you. This you know, says what the politically correct elite does not want to hear. Because I spoke to him to speak which problem with Moroccans presented in crime of her dependency more three-quarters of the touch of our population, but because they are of the nuisance and terror caused so many Moroccans, so long a free country. Moroccan youth happily, or not can should be humiliated. that I would not even use. I'm sure they are. And for that reason, everybody needs to be better armed, everybody needs to be prepared to defend themselves, and again, to understand what the threat is, and to neutralize the threat as needed. That's most critical. Again, guys, a lot of work to do. Not necessarily enough time to get it all done here, but organize. Army equipment training as militia. Make sure that you've got the technology squared away that you need. And, oh, interesting. Okay. Frank, for me, do you have a copy? Go ahead, Frank. Go ahead. Somebody just threw me something here. Okay, am I right or am I wrong? Did the water... Did the whole people... Maybe they didn't. If they were smart, they didn't. Did the water protesters leave the protest site? The barricade, as they'd set up on the bridge. I'm just curious about that. Only because somebody just sent me a feed and says it's a live feed. Go ahead. Doing some... Yes. You can find them at... professionally, you go to their unit, quote, today, $52. Very good. Now here's the question, is this a laminate Kevlar? It's a composite. I was just curious about because you see that basically it's Kevlar helmet laid in flat stock is what it is. That's good. You could even paint it and everything. The other question is what's the weight per foot? One and a half inch. You're looking at a one and a half inch. One and a half inch, I think you said it's about a pound per foot. Yep. dudes that's steel. Okay, I have to look at the mat. I mean just go to level E, I mean you would need to have half an inch steel. Right, no, no, this is, I'm just doing real quick as you see that. Now remember, here's how we armor up the van. Take a look and measure your pylons. Okay, the inside of your body, your truck, you got to be able to fasten things. You don't want a floating, you don't want a floating joint if you can help it. So the way you want to figure out how you're going to affix your armor, The distance between those individual sidebars, structural ribs that make up the box, that come up. So measure the distance there. I believe they should be pretty close to about two feet, 24 inches. But they may be closer, they may be greater. I don't know what the new vent, that's a newer vent you've got there. But hopefully there's the spar hits at the four foot mark. And then the next spar hits at the next four foot mark internally, which would be a total of eight feet. And that means two of your panels on the driver's side and four foot's about right, maybe a little less, but four foot, maybe a little less on the hider side where you have the helicopter door. You know what I mean? In other words, on the left side you can have a shorter panel, a single shorter panel there. And then you still can armor up the door, which is going to take an internal panel however you want to do it. One cool thing about the sliding door, is remember that the door has an internal vinyl panel but there's no roll down windows or anything. So the cool thing is that inside the door is where you can mount the armor. If you've got an inter... I see how the structured panel is, but if you can either slide it in the end or you can slide it, you know, you can open up the fascia and slide the panel in that way and insert it inside the helicopter. That way it's completely out of the way. You still have this... I'm gonna have to insert it in the bottom wall of it. No, you can use fasteners. The thing is, you can use fasteners through the inner structural wall in the door. Right. Okay. I got my tire rack. I got two tire racks. I got... Oh, did you find them? Wait, where did you find them at the scrap yard? No, I found them... I actually found them on a site here. I believe they're... That's brand new though, right? Pardon me one second, please. Go ahead Henry. Yeah, I just wanted to let you know those protesters, they're still there and they say they're staying until it hasn't actually been rerouted around the lake there and it's supposed to get down to 40 below zero. That's what I had to tell you. Very good. Thank you. I appreciate that because that's one of the things I said yesterday, number one, when they claim that they're going to stop doing it, if they're going to stop doing it, they're lying. What they'll do is they'll wake everybody up and immediately they'll rush all their garbage in, do whatever they're going to do and everybody stands there going, how'd that happen? So at least everybody is smart enough to see through the BS. Now, the type of that you have should be a crossbar that comes out of the top hinge, comes straight out, and then does a figure seven down to the next hinge, right? Yeah, basically. So then when you flip the other one over and go the other way, you have a reversal. You see what I mean? Yeah, but you see what you want is so one tire is only because you've got to be able to fit the tire in there. Oh, that's interesting. Oh, okay, so you can actually mount two towers, two towers. They've accommodated that then. That's cool. Well, you see, they do that because they offer the left or right because some people want the left mounted or right mounted door. It's just a matter of personal choice. But if you put both of them up, again, like I said, there's a number of different tricks. The hub, see, here's a couple of disadvantages of doing what we're doing here. Number one, I always look at when, for instance, you're going to build the cap for the tire carrier. I know we're shifting from the armor panel, but I want to bring this up while I'm thinking about it. What I traditionally have done is take and have the guys cut a pizza plate, okay, and drill holes at the proper dimension for three or four of your regular studs, so that you can accommodate the actual stud that goes in your wheel for the drive train of the vehicle, okay, that goes in your brake cap, your brake drum. The advantage of this is that once you get everything in place and the axle studs are mounted, you can always pop those out and actually recover them if you had something break or it was damaged down below, so I always look at it as spare parts. But the idea behind this is that that will help to hold your armor wheel in place that goes on the front of your tire. However big you want to make it, it can be just as big as simply the wheel rim, which is usually the most common way to do it, or you can make it as big as the tire, which is a bit of a chunk of steel to have to move around if you ever have to take it off. Fingers are considered armor unto themselves. Not that they'll stop a lot, but everything slows stuff down. Always remember that. So you're completely right on because, I mean, I was watching some videos water dudes in Iraq and there's... Well yeah, and again, well the other trick if you want to go the next step is you can either fill them with rubber or cement, that's an old trick. For aggregate, anything and everything, you know, can be... the tires are convenient because you can see really neat when you lay them on their side, you can roll them like they roll. So you don't have to carry them. You got to heft them up when you want to put them somewhere. But you can do all kinds of neat things with tires or tires on rims. The big thing in this case is that they're spare tires because it's more common that you're going to see people trying to blow out your tires or anti-personnel or wreckage damage, that kind of thing. So more and more. They were a clip on the actual rim itself. It's a solid in this company. Yeah, and again, the old issue is, well, there's a couple of tricks. You can make a poor man's run flat, which of course, some people like this, some people don't. At least take perforation damage is to use the, fix a flat in a can. You dump three of them in and just leave them inside. When you air up the tire, you insert two or three cans, then air the tire up and take it out on the road and run it. The idea behind that is, anything that might be an issue is gonna be sealed, but the compound is available. If there's a perforation, it's already there to work. So that's an old trick, it's a cheap fast trick if you're in a situation where you have to improvise quickly. The other thing is that there actually is, and I don't know the name of the company that might still be surviving on this, but I know they're still making it, they have a compound that you actually insert into your tire, and it's a uniform foam, and it inserts, expands, and replaces the air. Now the thing about it is that what's really cool is when they originally proposed this stuff is that you can actually reuse it. You can actually, you know, knock it, you know, pull when you take the tire off, knock it off the rim, you can recover the fill element and then you can re-liquify it and start it all over again. There's a whole process for it. I have not checked to see if they're, if they've changed names or if they're still in business. It was a great idea. A lot of guys were using it for, you know, the poor man's limo service for, you know, personal protection. and or for prep vehicles like what we're doing or light armored vehicles like we're doing. The advantage of this is like a run-flat you can even blow a chunk out of the tire and it isn't going to affect it, it just keeps going. So that's another solution, that's another direction you could go. With regard to the armor the big thing is remember reinforcing, think about motion and applied energy, how things have tendency to rattle apart. The endpoints of your armor should end on those structural frames. And if you're going to buy this and pay that kind of money, I would assume they'll probably cut panels to size for you, won't they? Oh yeah, he... I've heard... You give him the spec for the panel and he'll cut it to what you want. Yeah, he already said, yeah, but they don't even make... when you call... when you call, they'll make them right then and there and they'll cut them out. Yeah, because you have to accommodate the wheel well. Remember how to do that. You have to accommodate the wheel well. And, you know, he's not a square panel, you've got that one little bump right there. The doors, the rear doors, you can treat the same way as the side helicopter door. Because, again, you don't have any roll-down windows in the back. If you insert them right in there, or you could put, you could throw them right into the outside. Right in the back of the door, yeah. Now that's neat. Another kicker, I went into a liquor store to buy my grandfather his Russian nip, and the guy there had a door that he gave me for $55. Okay, well what was he using it for? Was he using it as a shield for the counter? He said you could take it if you want 50 bucks. Well again, 4 inch thick is, is your 4 inch is thick? Yeah, it's about that, yep. Oh, okay. Well that's gonna last up a lot more. That's more than just a conventional windshield there, even by armor standards. So, you know, think ahead. Remember weight and how you're going to fix it. Now the big thing with the front windshield is just simply working out your math. Like I said, do a split canopy like you do on a B-17 mommer. Look at the B-17. In other words, you can do two smaller panels if you want, although you can do one flat front. If you're wondering about how to do that, go take a look at the M715 Jeep truck. The M17 military five-quarter ton truck made during Vietnam. All that is is a standard Jeep modified to mill spec. Part of the mill spec requirement is that it had to have a flat front windshield. Just take a look at how they applied the energy there to that. How they made it work. Real simple. Again, you can go forward and extend the chin. You don't really want to do much to modify the roof. And if you taper it a little more in the front, that's good. Remember, any angle or slope that you apply, allows for a more likely bullet deflection because in reality when the bullet strikes it's actually making contact with a greater amount of material. The energy is mutually supporting as it normally would be but there's greater resistance and the energy is deflected along with the projectile. So that's another reason that if you want to scoot the chin, the lower end of that windshield out a little bit, what it means though is if you're going flat and square you've only got so much variance because of the arc of the original windshield frame the way it's built down below. So if you're going to extend it, if you're going to angle it farther out, the top stays the same. You never change that. In fact, work with the, consider the fact that what's going to happen is you're going to put a little more of a chin over the, like an eye ridge on the top and a chin down below. The chin won't be as great or it will be non-existent, depending on what you do with the piece down below. above, which is you bevel it so that you minimize to the corners, it comes up flush. But you'll end up with an overhang of so much of the roof. Now that means you're going to have to put a crossbar inside and also a cap piece to seal up from the environment. It's a sheet metal. You're going to have to cut sheet metal and spot weld accordingly. But it's pretty simple. The big thing is remember also don't forget rubber seals for the Lexan itself, rubber BB buggy bumpers. Two things, it eliminates noise and wind and obviously weatherizes the equipment. So that's one of the most critical things, weatherization. But remember sound when you're inside a big metal box. That all adds up. So you want to make sure that you also secure everything and whatever possible sound dampen it or, again, weatherize it, which also sound dampens. That helps make it a much quieter piece of equipment in general. No reason for it not to run like a Cadillac. Not by the time you're done. But it's all simple. Remember, kiss. Keep it simple stupid. Nothing too intricate, nothing too fancy. The thing about the flat plate, the chin top is a better choice than flushing it to the very front point, middle point of the arc of the window because then you have to build out metal left and right. The chin or the roof, remember gravity sucks and water follows the path of least resistance. If the front top of the windshield is up underneath the chin of the existing roof, there's nothing you have to fix, there's nothing you have to change except that frame that you need on the inside underneath the cover of the existing canopy. Base is easier to build up and it's going into a non-critical area with regard to a non-crew compartment. The engine is already designed to take weather and moisture and whatever, so actually expanding it that way to the chin, you're still not going to take up any of your space around the motor compartment. What you've got to watch there is around the front at the base of the windshield between where the hood and the chin of the windshield is located. Remember, you've got ventilation there. So you can't cover that completely up, you have to accommodate it. There are a couple things you can do which include doing a couple of little flat snorkel plates simply to allow for like a wind scooping. That brings in a greater volume of air and captures it and directs it without just simply being the Venturi system that presently exists where it's a great over-passing, over-air current passing over it. Anyway, it's cool. Well, let's see, we got the armor, we got the glass, we got a moon roof, right? I haven't done that yet. There is no light. Okay, now here's the thing. It's your choice about how you want to do this, but moon roofs are more innocuous, they're less obvious. And a moon roof can have a replacement plate built for it so that it can be solid covered. And of course you can hinge it, and typically they are hinged anyway, it just depends on the model you get. uh... whitney has them and they'll fit right into the uh... space available between the stanchions overhead across parts and when you do stand in one of these vans and if you had a hole in the top I mean you're right at your chest like right at the top level of your chest and in those things but you may need a little more height remember you and the other thing is remember you gotta be able to co-erce the gun I mean traverse the uh... observation light that you're going to have on the roof you know what I mean The thing is you want to look for something to build up a pinpole and a purse ring. One of the things to check, go to Coleman's. Give them a call in Asmuth. They have something like that. They used to have one that was mounted on the deuce and a half. And I don't have that right on my fingertips, but I should. They probably can. They have something else there that you will like. I'm not going to mention anything until I get mine. Then you can maybe get yours. Oh, I've seen it for $125. Yeah, you saw that, right? It was windshield wiper, right? Roger. Yeah. Now the thing is, your station, your weapon station, you would mount left or right and actually have it firing with a magneto. That's what I would do. In other words, it's kind of like, I think, a mount like you see on a Quad 50 fixture as far as the way you mount the weapon system. It's mounted left and right and you simply load and then apply with electronic trigger. Nothing hard to do. It's actually simpler than it sounds. Anyway, Coleman's is one and there's another company. I'm trying to find them. I haven't talked about in a while. They're out of Arkansas and they were also out of Missouri. They had a couple of different offices and warehouses and they had military vehicle parts. It is the Trevor's ring for a deuce and a half or a usually it's on a separate set of pedestal mounts, actually there aren't pedestals that trip up, but it's a two bars come up from the rear, one from the front or two from the front, depending on what year is made. And the ring on top is what you want because that's set up pretty well. And that can easily be mounted on any number of vehicles or pieces of equipment. But it gives you everything you need without having to reinvent the wheel. If you don't do that, you can buy single station control mounts. And you mount switches. Yeah, but those are for what you need. You want crude and rude because it's got to be able to take a hit, friendly to hit. Remember, the Fallout Armor is designed to slugfest and it's usually designed to... because once you're around tonnage, everything has to be built to work around tonnage. The reason... what I'm bringing up... what I'm bringing up is the pin-to-mounts can be bought by themselves, individual pin-to-mounts. You mount one front, one rear, one left, one right. Now you have to change the gun, the position of the gun, by physically picking it up, releasing it from the one pin-to-and putting it in the other. So if you know that a majority of your work is going to be done to the front, then you leave it there because you can traverse the gun quite a bit if you're motivated as a gunner. So you can swing her a good probably 50 degrees to the right and 50 degrees to the left. If you switch it to the left station, that means you could be designated left security. If you swing it over and move it to the right panel, it's right security if you're in convoy or with a group. That's a technique that's, again, it's the thinking man's process. But the pinels are cheaper and easily affixed and very reliable. It's like a boat hook. Think of it like a hook. When you use a rowboat, you drop the ore pin into the pinhole. Same idea. So crude is ridiculous. So simple, it's easily applied. An example is you can still, if you can't find them, you can make battle wagon shields. In other words, since you're already going into trouble with some of the other, one of the things I would do is not the big, wonky, wraparound, super box shields like you're seeing, because those are both, they have an advantage. This service is provided by... Access Code Accepted. There are 10 participants in this conference. This conference is being recorded. Please announce yourselves. Say, check this out. Go take a look at this. Just to give you an idea, go look at an M113 Battle Wagon. Okay? You got that, you know, see, M113 Gavin Battle Wagon. Take a look at the, the, uh, Pindle plates on the roof. There were two for the, for the M60s or Brownings. And there was one for the M250. I have all of those. And they could be made. They were better made than the junk they're making now. What a cobble together job they did with the junk they used in their rack. We got rid of all that stuff so they could turn around and buy a clunky, junky new. Horrible. Anyway, uh, T.W. it, can you close with me? Well, I think our caller might be gone, that's okay, or muted. God bless the Republic. There we go, thank you sir. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen, the Empire is on the run. I've got some other ideas. I'm going to see if I can connect with you. I'll put them on the internet clock. Guys, everybody else out there? Why, Joe's coming up next. Joe's just said dial. It's Tuesday here on Liberty Dream Radio. We're scraping food to get you to grow food. If you have water, we'll be back right here at the internet clock. Meanwhile, don't forget to go anywhere. Joe's coming up next. Bye-bye. located in the heart of Ohio's hunting country. Let us help you find the right shotgun or rifle for you. 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