by grace and mercy of God through Jesus Christ to help others see the light of Christ. As our time runs short, I'll do away with all the typical closing. Remember friends, Liberty Bible hours and internet missionary outreach, reflecting lights that others may see. May God wishly bless you, my friends. Until next week, Lord willing, good evening. when you were listening to us. K-tree-radio.com, Indiana Freedom Talk stations, Hallmark, and Gold Spike Technologies, east and west of the Mississippi, along with Alaska. Afternoon to our friends in the great state of Jefferson. Well, temperatures stay about the same, weather is about the same, it's pretty much looking like it's been, guys. Not a whole lot of difference there. Pretty interesting. So we're going to continue to work what we as far as the weather goes, got no choice in that one as they say. Rain must fall. Yes it must. And again, so far we really can't complain about where things have gone with the weather, even with the moisture we've gotten. Don, what's it like in your neck of the woods? What city today was jumping off the wall, please? It's the first day of December. You're of our Lord 2016 and it wasn't a bad day at all today, y'all. Talked to the plumber, talked to other people, and trying to figure out how to get this done. How should that pipe tilt? At any rate, it is the first... December. Day, or rather first day, a month. 2016. Doesn't seem that long ago, we were telling ya. See ya next year, you remember. But, uh, at any rate, you know, around the world, we pose that. And what have you done for your country this year? Well, we could say that, uh... Donny Trump says, all those jobs over there carry your furnace and air conditioning array. I talked earlier in the day, we brought this up about him being forced to abandon all of turnover or what's that? There's a legal phrase for it, have no influence on all of his business. Beholdings and this, that, and construction and whatnot. Well, he's going to divest himself of that. That's one of the words. But that was all being done by as pointed out earlier in the day, I'm a communist that's trying to punish the capitalist because the communist doesn't like how the, or rather, where the capitalist ended up. See how that works? I couldn't help but point that out again because, you know, I guess you just have to be punished for being president, Mark, if you beat Hillary Clinton. You know what I mean? They just gotta put the whip to you one way or another. and bringing up Johnson as a comparison into what you can get away with when you're president and how you can make the people around you rich. Oh, you know what? Here's a little secret. If I believe what they tell me, that Donnie fellow, he's already rich. And I just hope that we've talked about the person that has nothing better to do, sit around and try to figure out how to take your freedom or mine. So let's see how that shakes down because apparently he's already exhibited concern for, well, jobs in America. Thing that he said he would do. Now, another thing that he said he would do with peddling on that mark, I don't understand that. I just, you know, I hate to think of that as it was simply a campaign. What is that word that the Democrats always talk about when they tell you one thing, literally, you guys, what was it? Obama was elected the first time and Obama was elected the second time. Remember you heard from the White House? Remember? That was just campaign rhetoric. Remember? I did. I remember that. Or rather, I do. I remember that. God forbid, you know, you make a promise during your run for presidency and even before you've gained the office, you're making efforts to fulfill at least one of those promises. What's wrong with that? plucking hands on the mainstream immediately after the morning hour is done, Mark, they couldn't do anything but if they had a rope and he was there, they'd have probably hung them for it. So that's how, it's like, well, thumbs and opinions everybody's got one, I guess. But that Joy Bear, boy oh boy. Again, I really do believe it. When was in the same room Donnie would end up at the very least tying her up in a good way. But in order to restrain her from hanging him, how the mainstream media works, isn't it Mark? I mean, you know, give the guy half a chance. Well, you give Obama half a chance and he wrecks the country. That already happened. Yeah, exactly. There's enough damage or a little more can be done. Oops, what did we say? Yep. So it can, you know, we could talk The other thing was the fellow that came up with the white lash. This is a white lash, you know like whiplash when you are sitting in your car and you get rear ended and your head stays in one place and the car keeps going over there and your head goes way back there and your neck hurts for the rest of your life. Or at least until the lawyer says well we got the settlement. Something like that. You know, white lash or no whiplash. But that fellow was on the talking, the clucking heads, and they had a whole lot of fun with him because, well, he's a self-professed liberal, and you know, that's another, that's a, oh, if you go to Isaiah, that's a code word for vile. Only more often these days that liberal is, well, to some people, recognized as communist. Because when they combine it with progressive, I'm a progressive liberal. No, that's a red flag for a communist for sure. You have to understand that. Aggressive, liberal, that phrase is equal to, you know, not greater than, not less than, in the mathematical sign world, equal to communism. So you have to consider the source. This is white lash. This is... Oh, venomous attack against an outgoing black president. Well, wait a minute, we didn't even really see a viable candidate and another black president. So what do you want us to do? Not have an election? Because there's not a black president running? We just won't have an election because, well, there's not a black president running. That's apparently is the thought mind being exhibited by that fellow who came up or coined that phrase. White lash mark. Again, the media. I couldn't help but bring that one to the hour. Again, how does that go? The stinking, craze, progressive, you know, screaming in the marketplace about everything that should be his that is brought to him by the stinking capitalist. Only he doesn't say that. Hey Don? Yes. Yeah, that guy you're talking about, that's Van Jones won a... Yes, yes, thank you. ...of Obozo's Zars, who is a self-professed communist. Only he didn't mention that today. He's a progressive liberal, because that's their whitewash paint job. That's their code word. That's their cover-up. That's their fellow traveler of today. Yeah, if you do any research on him on the Internet, you can see where he's definitely proclaimed to be a communist in the past. Oh yeah, but again, you know, a long time ago they weren't communists and they weren't even progressive liberals. They were fellow travelers. That was the code word amongst themselves. But even today they run that out progressive liberal and they expect most of us, particularly, you know, the sheeple, that he's just a progressive liberal. I guess that's just a little more out front than the liberal category. Some of the people that I have conversations with, especially at work, they're going, well look at all the people that Donald Trump is proposing for his cabinet. So I went back and did a little research on all the people that Obama appointed to his Zars. Oh yeah. And communists and socialists and what other country in the world use Zars? Russia. Soviet Union, yes. I just wanted to bring that up. You have a good evening, sir. You gotta keep up the good work. God bless you. God bless you. But again, you guys, sometimes, Mark and you, you've tried to point this out many times, they put it right in front of you. Then don't hesitate. Right. That's the part that everybody, and then people make excuses. That's the part we gave you to remind everybody. Then, they, well, even as they blurted out, if you point it out, then they start making excuses. Mm-hmm. you know even other words for the fellow travelers look we can even rule you know state what we want to write in front of everybody and then why even as we've made the statement which is typically what happens no think about it like oh no he didn't say that he didn't mean that we are given that title but it's not what you think it is what do you mean it's not what I think it is will be let me break out your little dictionary here that little red yellow one oh no I understand exactly what this means I'm going by your definition because of course you see we're supposed to all be in that 80% stupor range, right? If not 60, trying to count on. Well, interestingly enough, couple things today, something that was not a surprise, apparently Don, the recommendation for Secretary of Defense's Marine Corps General Mantis, apparently retired four years ago or so, well apparently they have to come up with some kind of special dispensation because you have to be out for seven years, which to me is kind of goes back to the whole thing with Patton and MacArthur. We're terrified of both of them actually stepping forward and actually stomping the guts out of people. So interestingly enough, the way it's set up is that apparently you can have a political post until years after having retired. To me, it would be kind of bizarre. That's really, you know, Washington. Yeah, if you're 80 years, well, let's say 80, if you're 60 or 60 or 70 years old, Well you know you can't come into the political arena until seven years after you've been in office and the logic of what logic would there be in that? In other words, if you actually serve in the military and serve your country, you will be punished for its ability of not being able to uphold the political. I know exactly where that came from. That came from more than anything from the leftist slash the FDR communists from back in the 30s and 40s. because they knew where the attack would come from, somebody in the system who saw the system operate and know what orders were given. But, heaven forbid, that person should be put into a position of power where they could counter because they see exactly what's happening. Someone with teeth. Yes, has been transpiring. That they were terrified of. How long was Eisenhower out? Well, Eisenhower had been, well, he has an interesting one too. Now, here's a funny thing about that. You see, because he was a general of the army. And there haven't been generals of the... all of the generals of the army that were created and not in existence since George Washington. Since the Communists took over, they've not allowed it since, but they couldn't rescind the rank. Every five-star general that had achieved a five-star general position never retires, never leaves office, even though they retire. The duration of their life, they have an office in the Pentagon. was the last remaining five-star general that came into service. And I met him before he passed away. I met him back in the 70s. In fact, he's on my hellfire. He's on the back of my hellfire qualification certificate when I qualified for, you know, it was on the back. I had it in my possession, so I've got all of the signatures of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, every major officer in service, that was the command group officer, and I've got Omar Bradley's signature on the back of that on the same piece of paper on the same document actually was cool. It wasn't part of my document, I flipped it over and said hey by the way could you sign this for me? Could you autograph this? In fact Rogers was like oh yeah sure, no problem. Nobody ever done that before with him. He was like really? Yeah it'd be kind of cool. So I had him sign it and then I had all the Joint Chiefs sign it and then I got all of the command group including the commander of all medical operations global and it happened to be right there and then I got Omar Bradley to sign it. It's got me on one side and all them on the other. It's kind of neat. Including a picture by the way. With me. That's called the PELFA. Pieces of paper. Comes from my buddy Dave Poss. He's gone now. When his uncle passed, not very close. He died over here trout fishing over here in Muskegon. My buddy Dave told him I'm sorry to hear about your loss and none of the... I heard it on the news, you guys. And none of the family knew of his passing yet. So when they put him in Arlington, my buddy sure that Dave got to attend a funeral. I have all of that for Joe Floss. ...for months that come around it, like who's attending, who's doing the service and all of that. From the family friends. How's that go with the little things you're counting? Yep. Anyway, for everybody out there, again, quick reminder, guys, Edward of course jogged our memory on this. But tomorrow we have another drawing. Let's not forget, guys. We are of course meeting our end of the year bill. If you want to find out more about that, go to Liberty Tree Radio. Look at the right-hand side of the page and you'll find that unlike government, like the system we've been talking about, there's a goal, here's what we've reached, and we need your assistance to make the final goal, to make the number that's posted there. So Liberty Tree Radio.4M. 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Trust me, in fact, it's even getting darker earlier there too, which means we've got more darkness to operate in. Night vision technology, thermal technology, both are available. Don is the person talk to you so I'll tell you what, Dom, what do we have available? Again, how can we use the site? How do we plug everything in? How do we get to where we need to go to get the job done? And we've got, there's one of them, and a bunch of viewers and binoculars and monoculars in the green screen. And the company has an idea to turn a Thor into a simple viewer by leaving the gun mount off. All my gun mounts, seven eights, your weaver, or in your 1913 1 inch rail because they come with an integral mount because they're purpose built to be gun sites to the extent that they're all 308 capable and they'll live on top of your M1, no problem. The 4's will live on top of your 50. The coil capability is going to be proud of, that's one way to put it because that live on top of a 50, that's not a big, that's a small club, let's put it like that, that's not a big fix that can say we survive in the half inch world. We've talked about differences between you know light collecting and heat collecting and and pointed out again it was brought up the other day by a caller that hey you know that thermal if you're looking across the field and someone over there turns up you know a searchlight like an aircraft searchlight you know like London 1941 and the the Hun is overhead and and it's just I don't remember that Edward Murrah fell communist but uh... if that were on the field and you were deploying someone was trying to get back and forth across the field as if you know like a world war one battlefield well pretty soon that this searchlight would be shot out but you wouldn't see any light from that searchlight but if you look right at it you'd see a lot of heat right at the desk so you wouldn't see any light out there in the world in the world it wouldn't enhance the vision of that thermal at all that and we've talked about well you know your green screen don't point it at a fire tail lights or the moon, you know, the moon just this side of, well, the brightest thing in the night sky. Where does all that light come from? It's reflection from the sun, isn't it? You don't point your night vision at the sun. You don't point your thermal at the sun. Those are broad brushed. Those are not even just generally. Those are really, really true. At any rate, you can see gun sights over IDTOE.US. And again, they're all 308 capable and the Thor, they'll live on top of your 50. And if you have any questions about what's the real price, and we'll price and I'll give you a code and you can enter that code and if you want to purchase over the internet you'll get that cheaper price than what you see advertised there. If you want to do a deal a different way we can do that too. You have to understand that the prices you see at the website are, that's the thing to put there because we can do better than that. So if you call me at 23179658 I can help you reduce the prices that you see on the website. As example, and this is, you know, the extreme, the top end Thor, you guys, that's like middle $6,000. I can save you more than enough to, well, buy one of them Zaina complete ARs, and then enough probably to buy a case of ammunition for it. Now, do the math on that, and that's enough savings to buy a gun in a case of ammunition off of a single gun sight. And again, that's the top end one, and that's a, you know, but that's a considerable amount of savings. If you're looking, go over to the website, if you want to see in the dark, that's Y-D-T-O-E dot U-S. If you want to reduce the price or if you want to, hey, what does this do compared to that? And what about, you know, that, well, that $3,000 piece of thermal versus that $2,800 third generation, you know, within a couple hundred dollars of each other in the middle price range. What does that do compared, if you have any questions, give me a call. My number is 231-796. Thank you Mark. You can still mount one of these units to that, but you have to put a little rail inside the carry handle trough and the top where the sight is. With a flat top, no matter what model or variant in the AR, and several other guns out there like this, you have the ability to slap that night vision device or that thermal device right on the roof and pretty well it lines up without any riser or really extend the comb of the rifle to the rear. out that there's a lot of neat ways to actually assist that. If you feel you need a little more stability or you've got to raise your head a little higher because of the optics Don's offering. For the AR especially, Magpul makes everything and anything you can think of. I mean I'm to the point now where it's like Magpul has had a catalog of their own and you need to go look at it. If you're looking for a solution it's there. And you know I don't say that all the time but Magpul's American and when the anti-gun people were pissing with them you know what they did? They left the state that was pissing with them. companies don't have the guts to do that. At the height especially of the bummer gun grab thing, Magpul put their money where their mouth was and did exactly what they promised when the anti-gunners at the state level wanted to screw everybody. Well, they said, you can get my tax money to screw the people, so goodbye. That's cool. Again, so just a little reminder on recent history with people who build things, because if you want to build up that committed thermal rifle, get one of these AR kits. By the way, you can get an AR-10 kit too. AR-10s are available. I just don't dwell on them as much. But if you want that, you know, if everybody, you know, your WID says you've got to have an AR-type rifle or an AR platform, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The AR-10 is one that they'll probably accept. And of course, it's in their, you know, their family relations, acceptability list, you know, that kind of thing. That's an in-law, but it's close enough. Okay, it's .308. The neat thing is they make them pretty much all with flat tops too. So somebody's asking me about that, well what about the AR-10? Well, you can buy it either way and I would pick it up with the Picatinny rail roof. It's going to be about the same amount of money. In fact, maybe a little less. Who knows? I haven't really checked to see what the price variance on those upper receivers are. But again, Magpul makes everything for both guns. They make all kinds of AR-10 accoutrements. They make AK accoutrements too, if you're looking for foregrips or variations, like non-slip fixtures. For example, their foregrip on their AK has a bit of a stirrup in the rear lip. Not a bad idea, but of course the AK doesn't bounce around that much. Now it doesn't bounce around at all if you know what you're doing. But the idea is that this offers a little more stability in that your hand really has nowhere to go but where it's supposed to be in the foregrip station. It's right in that knock. It's like you're actually gripping an area like a handlebar on a bike. That's another solution, is magpole for the elevators in the rear, for the cheek risers, lock extenders, etc., because you might want to adjust to make the rifle fit to that piece of equipment you got from Don. And the other thing I was pointing out about when I said commitment, well I mean leaving it on the AR that you've built. And we've talked about Pimento State Armory, there's a bunch of other companies out there doing this, we've talked about and we've actually pointed you towards the kits. Grab one of those thermal pieces and put it on the gun and leave it there. That would be an option. And since the gun only weighs 7 pounds, I mean 7 to 7.5, of course you start adding all kinds of extra light junk that's not so extra light after a while and it goes to 8 or 9. But that happens anyway with all the cool stuff you add. And of course you are going to, if you go to 7.5 pounds, let's say that's the norm. Don, what's the weight of the ATN thermal? Well, if you run in there, you're talking about a pound and a quarter, something like that. So you see right back up to the M14? Yeah. See guys, this is what I've been talking about. You know, everybody says, well we have to shave it down because we needed a lighter rifle. Yeah, but by the time you're done, you're adding all the other stuff on. It's not a problem. I mean, in reality, it's very manageable. And in this case, a little under 10 pounds, while everything's thrown on board, you can sculpt the gun design based on what you feel you need to do. Personally with that, I would put a straight heavy barrel on the gun, 16 inch, but there's several variations of the comparable that sometimes you're on sale. And I would commit the device to that and leave it that way. Because for as cheap as it is to build those guns, I'd build one from a night vision device in the same way. See, that's just, if you're single and you're listening to me right now, it's like, this is a great way for you to sculpt an entire battle pack for you. Some people are going, well, I'm gonna get the night vision and the thermal device. Well, that's a good idea. If that's your goal, then you wrap those guns around that idea too. Think about it. For night operations, especially, think reduction in muzzle flash. Think, in general, quieting the gun down, streamlining the gun, but also stabilizing the gun. So there's a number of different options you have in terms of how you can engineer the design and tweak it to make it very, very, very manageable. The AR is great for these devices, because there's no felt recoil, right? Oh yeah, as far as the nighttime thought of a three-shot burst, steam type. pattern gun with your finger. You don't have to have that fully auto three shot setting. So what I'm going to do, I got another, somebody's heard me play the one version, this is Mark, the original. So I had a request, I played Ain't No Place for a Hero. And everybody's like, the original, I always love this when you get this conflict. It's like talking about AR-15s or AKs, you know what I mean? If I talk about AKs, I'm insulting the AR people. If I talk about ARs, I'm insulting the AK people. But then everybody forgets about the HK people because they don't care about them at all. They only brought two maggots. Right, they only brought two maggs because only good afford and HK wouldn't import anymore, right? I've got the latest HK rifle and I have two maggs. Why do you only have two maggs? Well, they only imported like 25 of them for 58 rifles and the mags available cost $214 apiece and HK said woo woo and I wasn't paying attention when they did that. And don't you dare build one aftermarket. Yeah, oh no, they'll sue your hind end and track you down to men and castrate in the bottom of you. Trust me on that one. That's HK. Why? Because they're HK and they hate you. Real simple. But anyway, of the AKs, guys, both of them can adapt to everything that Don's doing and more. And so anyway, well the original here, I'm going to play it real quick, it's Borderlands 2 and it's the original opening piece. You might be able to tell the difference. The studio piece come by another group is what it is, the original group. Anyway, here we got our friends and for Larry and for Ron who are like, Mark! Okay, well see, I satisfy all listers. Here we go. That sounded cool, man. I'd give it an 8. It's got a good feedback dance to it. That's actually the theme from it, actually, which is cool. The original piece, that's actually the intro coming in. And for everybody out there, yeah, it's got cruising sound to it, you know what I mean? That's one of those things where it's got that semi-bandito feel, you know? Try to offer some solutions to your music soundtrack going into battle, kids. And hey, that one. Ain't nothing like being in a 52-ton armored vehicle. It feels like you're going across country, it's like driving a Cadillac. It doesn't notice any bumps. You feel real impressed and you're real cool and your team's all there together. Your crew's together in the same M60 A3 and you're riding in this big dust pile. You're big and you're really bold and you're all a tier. I feel like you're the center of the universe and nothing can stop you. You're just going to see those guys, something like what you got coming the other way. They feel the same way you do, but in yours. It makes for a very unique life experience. to work with the guys down there on the border. Before we got you we had an Abrams. They were one of the first units to get Abrams and Bradley's. In fact, that was a guard unit that got those. The armor crew, I worked with Sheridan's before and I worked a little bit with the 60's while I was down there. That was a volunteer thing where you could cruise with them. They needed to fill in every once in a while, especially for weekend maneuvers because during the week I couldn't do anything but what I had to do but on the weekend we had a day or two and I wasn't going there and Nancy was up here so I wasn't going anywhere so I might as well go and have some fun with the boys as they say. How do you get to that confidence in your tank or your 52 ton armored vehicle? Why experience and training sir, experience and training. You know I have an airsoft tank. working on it. When you pull the trigger it won't destroy things quite as much, though it will do a pretty good job. It will just be a lighter version. It's like tank light. When you pull the trigger, it's still the big boom, but we pull out the big ordnance. I should say the deeper penetrating ordnance. There we go. There's a bunch of different things you can do. Number one, let's just start from front to back. To three-quarter ton, right? To full-size van. long body, not the short body, not the short box. Right? You got a pair, you got a cap or a door, you got clamshell doors on the right. Goes down to Huey's and then thought, damn, we can put that on a, we can put that on a van. It makes that commercially viable. Yeah. And if you know what, I used it just like a Huey is what I did. The only thing we always joked about wouldn't be nice. We had them on both sides. Then they came up with these little mini vans with double doors and now they even have them with electric. You can hit the switch and both those back doors slide back without you having to do anything. And that neat. Here's the thing. What you've got is the basic combat package. Ford band that I built many many of, especially when I was an op-for. We trained everybody to use APCs because they're a great package. Number one, you don't have an exit for the left side of the vehicle, but M113 or Bradley you don't either. What you have on these is that right gun door, which is why you also treat it. You've got a double set of clams on the rear, right? You've got two doors in the back. Do they have windows or not windows? Okay, now the window part, that's glass obviously. Couple things you can do to cheapy poor man's armor. Okay, number one for the rear. Start on the outside. Does it have a door mounted spare tire rack? Here's what's cool. The door mounted spare tire rack typically affixes to the hinge and it sits on one of the doors, on the left side door by the way, so that when you open the right door it's never in the way. It doesn't move every time you open the door. But the neat thing is, it's right there so it doesn't obstruct the vision of the windows as I was built and it bolts right into place with no special technology. Now, you mount a tire there so you've got another spare tire on the vehicle or you take the spare because typically it's mounted on yours, it's probably on the left side, inside is where the spare is right now. Make more room inside. We're going to take... Here's the other thing, does it have bent seats? You've got yourself a combat vehicle, son. You're all ready to go, but you're going to have to add some things. Number one, You go find a junkyard where they got a bunch of these things laying around and you're on the east coast so it shouldn't be hard. You might even find some that aren't too rusted because it's a not too salty state. But you look farther in when you go. You get the rear door mount on the left side, find that first. Then find another one. On the left side you already got one. So you put it on the right side. Now you'll find when you flip it upside down to make it work on the hinges, work on the right side, that Because of the way it's stationed, it actually will still mount on the door. You have to look at the model you've got to make sure this is true because there are variations. But it's just offset enough so it allows you to put a second tire on the other door. It'll be slightly lower than the one on the left-hand side or the right side, depending on which models you have that are still surviving in the junkyards area. It depends on the year, but you want it to match up with the year you've got. So you've got to find one that'll fit those doors because there's a door shift. What's the year on this? The 90s or an Otz? Maybe you'll find the door mounts. If not, JC Whitney has them. Whitney has mounts for everything like that. They are still, their inventory is picked up. Somebody told me they went out of business, but then I turned around and found that they're still out there doing something. The external rack is to put junk behind or in the drive channel. Remember, if you're getting shot at, they're probably going to shoot the back of your vehicle. Once you get that in place, go find yourself somebody who can cut some steel for you and use a laser cutter. It would be great nowadays. We just did a rough torch. And do a pie plate for you that will cover the wheel well, or forgive me, the wheel rim of the tire that's going to go on there. Right through the center for you clean. And when you put the spare tire up there, you put that quarter inch steel plate up there in place too. A chunk of metal and the tire actually slows stuff down, so does the rim. The first rule with armor is everything slows stuff down or stops it depending on what it is. More junk is good junk, but in this case whenever you carry junk you want it to do something for you. The spare tire is armor to a degree, not major, but it's some. For small arms firing most of what you're going to run into it's good. Pistols especially stops most. But the idea is that this is a quickie solution where you may need a spare tire and two spare tires are always better than one. that you're carrying them, they might as well do something to slow down bullets just in case. Now on the inside, you ain't got nothing on board on the inside. You got two driver's seats, a driver and rider's seat up front, right? Right. So find yourself a second, another rider's seat. Now it doesn't have to be a high back, but try to match it up with the one you got. You're going to put a silon. I got an old Kenworth. We call that a silon seat, okay? I mount that just a little closer to the driver than the rider, but I put it to the rear so that you can still sit down and use it. Now, it's not going to interfere too much with the inside operation of the vehicle. That becomes a commander slash, you know, the silon seat for the third guy. Remember how the silon, three guys had to make decisions. The driver always stays the driver. The guys on the right side is basically the equivalent to the crew chief. The team leader for whoever is going to be on board is going to be in the third seat, which is the middle jump seat. It sits back a little bit, but you want it closer to the driver so that in the event everybody has to pile out of the vehicle because of a collision or something and the doors up front don't work, they can still slide between that seat. You know, the guy on the right can slide around, turn around easily and slide through. The driver can still get out and so can the guy in the silon seat. Kevlar sheets are available Kevlar blankets same thing they use in the APC's. No, it doesn't stop everything guys, but it's designed to spalled. It does a pretty good job with small with light pistol medium pistol and even some light rifle. They hang, they have grommets. Amazingly enough the grommet holes on the models that I was able to find around the M113 will hang nicely inside that van. Okay, now yours is a little newer than our three-quarter ton, you know square bodies from the 80s. But, still the same basic idea. A couple of things you can do is, again, you can also do quarter inch or quarter panel if you want, spend the money. You have somebody cut a panel as high as the driver's shoulder or as high as the first pitch sidewall. Now if you look at the body, you'll see there's a step where it kind of starts to taper in. Your first panels that you want to install are down at that level. Have them cut so they go right up to the thin right. The right side's going to be shorter, that's where your assault door is, where your gunner's door is. left and right. The quarter inch steel is fine. Again, you're not a tank, but you can actually upgrade that down the road depending on what you can find later on. If you can get the quarter inch steel or eighth inch steel, that's fine. It's not the best, but it still gives you more protection. Remember, you've got outer sheet metal body. It doesn't do a whole lot, but it starts to retard the flight of the bullet. Everything else, again, progressively works to reinforce the idea of stopping the bullet. Look at the progression we've seen of the pickup trucks in the Middle East. You're seeing pickup trucks roll into battle now that have armor boxes around the front. It's as old as the idea of armored vehicles, by the way. Yeah. Now, on the inside, this is to make it casual, so driving down a road, nobody knows what you got. Anybody ask why you put the quarter panels in, the quarter inch panels on the inside? You haul steel, you haul junk, you haul engine parts. You don't want stuff going through the body and you have a lot of stuff that you have all that's iffy. So you can come up with any excuse you want. Now here's the thing, you want seating. Don't put bench seating the way you'd normally sit in a van. Go find yourself at that same wrecking yard where you got those two tire carriers from the back if you look around. Probably got some school buses sitting there. School bus seats are set up so that each seat on the left side behind the driver there's a ledge and that side doesn't have a leg. Yeah, the inboard side does, right? Right side it's the reverse. So you take one seat from the left, one from the right, have your welder or you put together a crossbar to join those two to make a long bench seat. If you've got a wrecked seat or something there you can get from the for nothing, grab one of the lower legs and put a third leg in the middle but only on the front, not on the back. There's a reason for that. A seat is going to have to go over the wheel well on the driver's side so when you create this bench seat it will be just tall enough that that back will rest on your wheel well. The front will of course be reinforced with that front seat leg that you welded on, okay, into your bridge. Now you really don't have a bridge, you don't extend it. You want those two seats together, and maybe a little space about the width of your fingers so you can clean that area out so it doesn't collect junk. Tighten it up if you want to, either way works. And that bench seat will fit perfectly on the driver's side so that it sits just behind the driver all the way back to the rear corner of the van. Now you take another one of those seats, left or right, and you make yourself a cut another set of legs off one of the other seats and you make yourself a single-bend seat for the rider's side where the gunner's door is. Now you've got the ability to move anywhere from six really grossly over armored and over equipped troops to in reality about eight and I've easily moved ten in a vehicle like this comfortably. Most important is that your guys at the doors will be turned and ready to jump, ready to leave if you have to overload the vehicle. Now, here's the other thing, little tricks and stuff you do. Get yourself a bunch of solid hanger pins. They're about an inch and a half in diameter, made out of solid steel. They've got usually a little point where you can drill them into something. Put those up in the corner of each one of the suspension support bars that's in the back of the body. Those are just hanger supports for spare gas masks, other equipment. I usually hung the gas mask on those. As far as the front end, one other modification, does this thing have a skylight up front? It has a skylight that actually opens up, maybe? An overhead skylight, an overhead like, you know, a moonroof. You mean it has a gunner station? See if it has a movable hatch, which we always put in. Remember, I put that silon seat behind the driver. If the moonroof should be right there above it, okay, the overhead roof. Now by putting the seat in there, I also have a place for a gunner to stand. And I've just created the equivalent of like what you see on any APC where you have the driver, you have the crew chief on the right side, well typically behind the driver in most APCs. But then you have a gunner station for a gunner. And whatever you want to make a pin for up on the roof, you can use for sound practice or for situations. Let me give you an example. If you want the fixture that goes on the roof, and I shouldn't say a word, but I'm going to tell you something. I'm not going to say it yet because I want to go get mine before you get yours. Over at Cole, go through all of their vehicle fixtures. Take a look at what they have that even has a front windshield wiper and a back canopy. And Don, it looks just like something you'd find on the top of a B-17. Oh, no kidding. And it's $125. Oh, man. The vehicle you're building, this would go right on the roof and be awfully convenient for that, you know, cupola gunner. Oops, did I say that? It wouldn't be very, uh, uh, agreed in rush hour traffic. No, you'd have to leave that off until you need it. That gets stowed on board or off the vehicle. Yeah, yeah. Hey, good question. I tell you what, we're gonna cover this more tomorrow. How's that sound? Is that okay? Of course. Keep listening because you've got a classic vehicle there. Remember anything you add. I put 1 quarter inch steel behind the seat rider and driver and the silo on the seat. Just like they do on aircraft. Basically it's an armored bathtub. Have you had foam to pad the edges of it? Yep. Well, there's a couple tricks there including tube foam that you see for insulating plumbing. Yep. Guys, it's dirt cheap and you put it all over everything. That bounces your head a lot better than that steel bar or that plate. Yep. Anyway, we are at the top already, my goodness. And we got into a favorite subject, mechanized infantry and how to make it very casual but very effective. God bless our republic. Got a new world order. Ladies and gentlemen, the Empire is on the run. But we are on the march, both day and night. Remember that vehicles are designed to carry a specific amount of weight slash gross weight when it comes to commercial or transport. That's the weight you have available beyond your troop weight for adding armor and armaments. Oh, you can get pretty creative with something like we're talking about here and nobody would have a clue what it can do and how well it'll work. Don, your number for night vision to vet web page because we're gonna need some of that for the vehicle too. We're gonna get out of here. Thank you Mark. Hey that phone number is two three one seven nine six eight four five eight. You'll need that. That'll help you reduce the prices you see at the website. You know Y D T O E dot U.S. Thank you Mark. God bless you. Bless you America. I