Mark Koernke discussed preparedness and survival techniques in response to a truck driver named Mark who encountered heavy smoke from Tennessee wildfires and successfully used a military gas mask to continue driving while other vehicles stopped. The show covered gas mask selection, proper donning procedures, NBC (nuclear-biological-chemical) protection equipment, alternative breathing systems including rebreathers and oxygen supplementation, chemical protective suits, and improvised protective measures. Koernke emphasized the importance of carrying spare gas masks in vehicles, understanding mask sizing, maintaining older civil defense equipment, and the critical principle of donning masks before warning others during a contamination event. The episode also included discussions of handgun selection, specifically the Smith & Wesson M&P pistol and Israeli Jericho firearms, along with ammunition and magazine sourcing.
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Actually, it's shifted a couple times, but it's kind of like the south-southwest. So the stuff we got rid of, we might be getting back. Hey, we got two bins almost full of firewood split split everything squared away and put away the Machineries covered back up again. So we're on standby rating to duck them before the snow flies what's like in your neck of the woods? What's the dignity was jumping off the wall, please? It is the 30th day of November I'm pretty certain about that year of our Lord 2016 that that's in concrete But hey, it was a beautiful wonderful day sunshine again for the last day of November I think we got pretty close to 50 degrees. Someone there was saying, man, I'm way overdressed. It's always good to be able to say that. Got a lot of stuff done. More on that in a little while. Again, the 30th day of November 2016, strike down the middle of the calendar. Some of you might not know what a calendar is. People used to keep track of days with a piece of paper or multiple sheets of paper hanging on the wall. And they would scratch off a day at a time. Well, people don't do that anymore. But that's striped on the middle of the week. You know, hey, that means I can take this 1911 in one hand and because the magazine is empty, you know, you can look right through it. And then with a full magazine in the other hand, we can just solve the empty magazine problem. Tell somebody at the door to come in and tell you it is a weapons one state. The perimeter is certain. Oh hey, let's touch that. Let's fill that chamber too. And now we can tell you it is a weapons one state. The perimeter is... needs some attention. But if you continue to pull the lever on your reloader, you can say along with me, as I top off this magazine, there's plenty more where that came from. We can now offer equal or support. Of course, one of the things we covered in the two hours, we kind of talked through a lot of the situation, but also I addressed, I think, other things that we've wanted to talk about when we have something that really does develop and become a real life scenario. We're literally smoking in the Smokies right now, guys. Mark, truck driver, of course, had his gas mask with him. Other drivers panicked. And of course, we're in crisis. We stopped, put the gas mask on, and proceeded with the mission. Hey, that's kind of what they tell you to do in the military. So he did exactly the way the Army trained you to do. You know, stop, don your mask, take care of your technology, make sure everything's still working, and proceed with the mission, which is what he did. heads up on that one. Again, get a gas mask, get a gas mask, get a gas mask. The fires by the way are not going anywhere down there in Tennessee and certainly they've been all over the country. I'm just wondering how many Israelis it took to set the fires here so they could try to bond us with the Israelis, you know, with the burns that are going on there. Well, there have to be some ISIS people. I did mention them, you know, Israelis, Israeli Secret Intelligence Service. I'm sure there are ISIS people that are setting the fires. So just a little heads up on that one. A couple of things, the knife to a gunfight is always embarrassing. Of course the guy with the car that then attacked with a butcher knife, they are still Well, apparently when liberals get into broken record mode it makes no difference about the facts of the situation. They just proceed. Remember I told you, you guys always apologize for your stuff and whatever and try to do damage control in the enemy. They don't care. They just keep right on banging the gong. You need to learn to do the same thing. Just keep spitting fire on them. Well, of course, you are looking really stupid right now because, well, the guy had a butcher knife and I know there's the argument that it's not even a real story or whatever. Well, let's just take it face value. It's always fun. Yeah, all the victims were, you know, boobies that were disarmed or unarmed because they're in a college campus and only the official royalty could carry a gun who of course the official royalty had to show up finally after nine people were stabbed. The official royalty finally showed up and see it's just so important that you not be armed or there probably wouldn't have been nine people stabbed. There probably would have been somebody stabbed, somebody seeing the butcher knife and then somebody putting a bullet in their hind end. shows up are you allowed to do that and even then you have to do all kinds of political correctness qualification and you know kowtowing or you just well right I mean after all he just was chopping people with a slicer slicing and dicing it always sounds great when it's somebody else you really don't want it to be you it's just not as violent as being shot Yeah, it was it was so peaceful. I mean everything was three thrashing why I'm even in bleeding that dreamer in people Yeah, it's like oh, what's he screaming about? Oh, wow. Look that guy's got oh, oh he's stabbing somebody Oh you savage. I'm in my safe space. I'm in my safe zone. They gave me a class on this This is not happening. This is not happening. I'm in myself. Yeah Why why because you were stupid and slow and and you were in your safe space winners and it's not very safe there. Okay I'm in my safe space. Oh, I'm in my bowl. Yeah, oh, where's my Legos? In my Petito. Maybe if I hack a furball, he'll be scared. No, I didn't do much good either. So, hacking up the furball didn't do him any good. He even tried, the one of them even tried the, ogologologol, you should try the chocolate. The person was not awed by that and thought that there might be a, you know, a Hillary standing there. Just slice a few more of them up anyway. Until Royalty showed up with a gun and then shot somebody. Go ahead. Like down here in Arizona, kind of like you'd picked up here at the beginning about talking about Mark down there and just happened to be lucky to have a protective mask with him so he could continue the mission just as a rider, as a warning to people. And you kind of mentioned to that about that trap, about the CO2. And also it's very important that people understand that the protective mask will not protect you. So if you see a house on fire and you think you can rush inside and rescue the people with your mask on, it ain't going to work because your protective mask doesn't filter out. Doesn't not produce oxygen. This is the most important thing we need to understand. It's why the trap, like I was talking about, worked really well with the feds. But if you think about it, it would have been kind of interesting if a fireman had been down there. First, that would have created even greater confidence because typically, again, they're using Scott AirPax or a variation on the theme and they're in a closed system. So for them, they wouldn't even be affected by it. They'd be thinking, hmm, well, same thing, no sniff, no smell, no burn. And then, again, the knuckle dragging gun holders would be the ones that would get caught. So it's an interesting variation in a crisis slash emergency situation. It's very unlikely that you're going to find Anybody other than the people that you intended, other than somebody else who wandered through the area who wasn't supposed to be there in the first place, but your defenders, using a CO2 ambush like that, would be quite effective as a rear guard, a block slash, a way to slow down the pursuit, especially if you're inside a complex or inside a defensive site that you've set up. I mean, maybe you're moving towards the last evac tunnel or the little corridor you have set up and you're gonna drop the wall. How would you generate that? Well let me think about a gallon of vinegar and a couple of baking soda. Now if you just threw one into the other the chemical reaction would be pretty violent. Or as they did with the original just a big oxyacetylene sized tank of CO2 and just opened up the valve and you leave. It displaces the oxygen and drops to the lower point and when you're above looking across it, down it, into it you wouldn't have any clue of what was transpiring. sucking that first lung full of whatever it's like, well, it's not going well for you after that. You think you just swam the English Channel. Yeah. And we're still sucking it in half of the English Channel. Yes. And in a moment you'll have the rest. Yeah. So the same thing could be achieved with nitrogen. I was poking around on YouTube looking for Swanson. I think it was in Texas, this highway where you can watch the whole thing from his dash cam. So he's driving down one of these back break big oxygen tank. there that they're bubbling into the water that irrigate the fields and it sprung up. And there's somebody laying in the middle of the road. You can hear this thistle in the background and he goes out there and he keels over and everybody's dead at that point. The environment, whatever you're trying to do to breathe, if you're passed out, is just taking in more. The pumps might be working. All they're doing is sucking more of the environment. It's just before you finally go gah-ah. And that's about all she wrote. Again, this is why we need to pay attention and observe. I know part of it is something that people are not necessarily ready for. This has also happened in a lot of farms with larger or even smaller silos and you have a clean out pit or a clean out area. That happened a couple times here over the last 40. It's been a long time since we've had it happen here. Years ago we had a father and son. The father of course jumped on to save the son because he didn't know what was happening, he didn't realize until it was too late. He was able to drag him out but unfortunately the son passed away. I went to school with him and the father of course was in the hospital for quite some time. So this can happen under mixed conditions. In this case with with what happened to Mark, everybody else on the road was talking on the radio about how they couldn't breathe and then of course they're stopping the trucks and well they don't have any protection and with the gas mask, you put the gas mask on, you proceed out of the area and you proceed with what it is you were trying to do. In his case he delivered the load. Everybody else was stuck in place, couldn't move any farther but I don't know what they were doing to protect themselves. Think about it, if their environment was already bad and they stopped and fired us. Yeah, they stop in an area where it's already contaminated. All they're doing is just sitting in the environment. Choking. Yeah, choking. So again, this is why we've said get a gas mask, get a gas mask. Get enough that you can leave them in the vehicles. Even if you don't have to, right there at your fingertips, even in the trunk, I mean for a situation like he's experiencing, where he's passing through the air where the fires are. You've got the ability to recover the mask, put the mask on, everybody else gets their masks on, and move on down the road. If it's a DD in the AO slash evacuation in a battlefield type situation or a disaster situation, as I said earlier, it would be good policy to have at least one person in the vehicle, you wearing your gas mask. Ideally would be the driver, but the driver may have limited visibility issues, etc. Or maybe there's an argument about whether or not, well, those parents It's not paranoid when you get it by a wall of something that's dropping from above. And it's just organics, but it's a whole mess of, you can be in addition to the organic slash forest fire. You've got residential, you've got plastics, you've got everything else coming down. It's on the cooling cycle, it's settling in, it's dropping on you. This is where funneling the right tools or driver would really appreciate that Air Force full face mask, gas mask, he would really appreciate it. If you had one, go Mark. Well again, one of the techniques we've used is to actually have it fixed over the driver. If it's a military application vehicle or even later on let's say you already know that things are escalating, we actually put those right over the driver's station, literally hanging, you know, we would do a zip time right to the ceiling. On the trucks it's easy, you got a little more head space and it can be back and just over the shoulder. The other cool thing is that we've got lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of the Russian tank gas mass cozies. And what we did is we developed this years ago is the high sea size filters and the female filter and the filter are both threaded for the 40 millimeter filter. The cool thing is you can put one, two, or three in a bank and use them, which the Russians do with their air safety systems, with their decontamination chambers. The larger filter is actually part of their system, and they can utilize them, stack them, pre-filter unit on like a smaller 40 millimeter filter. And as I said, you could do that, we do it with the vehicles, the smaller 40 millimeter filter can be taken off of it, starts to load up. still got the greater amount of time available with the bigger filters uncontaminated with no load on it at all. So that's a little trick and the hoses of course are ziptied to the ceiling. Everything is properly secured and sealed. The bag that's used is typically an M9. We used to get those for like 25 cents a piece. The M9 bags are really great because they were designed for a little bigger mask and the hoses of course already attached to the mask it drops down and it's convenient for the driver that's one solution. Any of the other pattern of masks, still the same thing or again attach them right behind the seat where they don't go anywhere they stay in the vehicle. Now this doesn't mean that the driver doesn't have his own PPE or personal protection equipment slash gas mask slash protective mask. The big thing is that the equipment is always on the vehicle no matter what for the driver. For as many as you can actually. What I used to do with the assault vans that we put together, I would typically have and I usually carry about eight masks on what are basically circular steel hangers from the corners of the van down the individual support bars. Always spare gas masks or gas masks on board of all of our vehicles separate from your personal equipment. And that should be a policy, that should be standard. They're so stinkin' cheap that it's ridiculous to not have them there. One of the other things to consider is, well, of course, the evacuation on your part, you might have to jump the vehicle without being able to get to your gear. At least you've got the ability to continue to breathe. Another consideration is, again, providing support for other personnel. You have your equipment, but you now have eight, nine, ten, or however many spare masks you have on board to share with other people. another issue or to support people that are your own friendlies who had to escape and do not have all their gear but do need a lot of noise. Go ahead. Okay Mark, I don't know about the noise but I've got a story for you. I heard something about in China a farmer had a pit with a lot of pig food and somehow somebody fell in and the methane was so bad it killed him instantly but it's so heavy it doesn't rise above the pit. And then somebody tried to go and rescue that person and that person died from the methane. Does that sound plausible? That happened here in Michigan about four years ago when it was a pig stock. It was a lagoon. And the way they processed it, at any rate, this one fellow tried to clear a sluice area, something like that. He crawled in. He was way deep in this little tunnel. And he was overcome and he slid in a little farther and his father, this is the scenario again because you know farms are still worked this way a lot. His father went in and pulled him out but one of them didn't survive. Yeah this is most common the methane issue because it's naturally occurring. Yeah go ahead. Go ahead. Aquarium, yeah, set the aquarium on its side and it's gonna blob over invisibly like Play-Doh to the ground. These types of situations, yeah. Yeah, like... Fitting. A lot of people think, oh, that's an oxygen tank on the back of a diver. Oxygen tank on the back of a fireman, either. It's there. That'd be kind of really dangerous to take an oxygen tank into a fire. It'd be over 20 feet, 25 feet for certain. A line, there have been Divers who have used their breath breathe your last breath out of your tank into your flotation vest. Now it fills up, your lungs are decreasing in volume, so you really haven't changed your buoyancy, but you're kicking toward the surface. You breathe in that breath, you just breathed out. Now that doesn't taste very well and it burns. You breathe it out again. And the next time you breathe it in, it's almost like you're breathing next to a fire because it burns. five or seven, maybe seven breaths like that before you pass it. Right. I'll tell you what, there's something else that's done. I know the issue of oxygen with combustibles. Oxygen pump systems now that work, that are totally portable, look into them. My dad was using it before he passed away. And I'm very impressed with the design. It was producing oxygen on site and it would pump and store. That would be one of the better ways. Remember, soda was another solution. Remember that? Okay guys, submariners. Remember the old submarine movies? The old ones from the 20s and 30s. There's a couple of them where they showed them using soda. That was the emergency breather system to the contaminant and produce how long that would last. Well, again, they'd actually move the soda around the way they originally did it. There wasn't some special machine. They literally would lay it out on a flat surface and the guy would sit there with a putty knife and be moving it around. The other consideration is to take a look at there are rebreathers and the rebreathers have been around for actually quite some time. Diving with rebreathers now not not commercial divers not paid divers divers are diving four and five hundred feet with rebreathers four and five hundred feet with rebreathers. Because they don't have, at 500 feet you guys, you've got 250 pounds per square inch on you. You're only a few breaths out of an 80. And then you need to go to the surface. Rebreather, you're not limited with your kind by the compressed air that you brought with you. One of the things too is of course the question that we're really on was actually the restriction in terms of the rebreather could handle. Military application models have already been seen for now about 30, 40 years, but 25 to 30 the next generation came up and total end detectable. Big time for propaganda purposes. Beyond that, that's where again the interest from the commercial end, which the government likes too because you see if you need rats for experiments, let the population have it. Yeah. Does this work? Yes or no? Oh, there's some of them died. Well, maybe no one. Why they died? sport diving so it's like oh well so the advantage there is rather than R&D coming from the government pockets they can turn around and observe the industry a specialized industry to begin with take advantage of that. You know I mean as Don brings up a good point you know why not just have a 50 cent of a 50 cubic foot of scuba tank just throw it in your vehicle with a regulator. You could do that actually. That's beyond belief. That's what, yeah, actually, Don's got some nice stuff. Well, it's not fancy, but I've been kind of really lucky in hitting a lot of unique yard sales. Don will admit to that because he knows some of the stuff I picked up and I got it for pennies. They didn't know it. I mean, but you know, that is an option, but let's remember that the Scott Air Pack basically is that. Yeah. I mean all they did is they wanted to be able to see, you know, they didn't have to worry about the marine issues or, you know, fluid issues. The basic technical application of a standard gas mask system, in this case what we've said before, a closed system is applied where you have air, you have air and oxygen provided depending on how sophisticated, for logical purposes, would be air. Oxygen is not a good thing to have around any combustible and since firemen are going into combustible The air is sufficient and preferred. The oxygen, well, ask the three Apollo astronauts who just happen to have an oxygen leak and a fire break. Hey, if you've got enough oxygen in a spark, you can almost make steel burn. That's the advantage of oxygen. Yeah, you can run a little longer for the compressed size. The problem is, you know, the volume mix, especially if it's very high and you have an incident, which is what, hey, well, the thing with the Russians used a mix air system. The United States for their space program use an oxygen system. The advantage of the oxygen system is more time for in compression as far as how much material can you store. The disadvantage is if you have any booboos. And that's what happened when they were on the ground of one of the Apollo missions. All three of the Apollo missions of the crewmen were fired inside the capsule. That's a consideration when you're a fireman now with us. I remember you're looking at a battlefield situation. I'd use anything. I'll use everything when the time comes. I was going to say, in the medical industry, you have what they call the nasal cannulas, the nasal prongs. They put right in the tip of your nostrils and then it goes up over your ears. Those two are extremely tiny. I'm wondering if you could put something like that on and then put your they'll have your oxygen and run that at about 2 liters per minute. So that will give you a sufficient quantity of air and then it would help the operation of the mask itself. It would also increase performance because again, the not patient in this case, but the, you know, because you have to work the lungs a little more to get those filters going. So the old, you know, the wind sacks are pumping and the oxygen would help to alleviate part of that, which would be cool. The thing about that is, it's not your first thing to go out looking for, but casualty masks make accommodation for oxygen. They're out there. The ones that are most recent I think are Czech. And they're designed for stretcher cases and head injuries. Again, the idea is that they have to accommodate oxygen. It's actually in the inventory of the list. There were some Swiss ones. They're long gone. And they actually had an umbilicus, but I don't know, I did never check to see if it was hose the lines, whatever. The other is designed so that the oxygen line does what you're saying, which goes right up underneath the mask. Seals and lays efficiently so that it doesn't break the seal. There's a couple of different directions here. One of the things about the oxygen production machine, I would recommend if anybody runs into that, if you have a family member and they bought it rather than rented it, have it if the family member is gone, if they are not needing it. always remember where it is because not only for the NBC issues we're talking about but the other half which is medical. So having oxygen and IV totally changes your ability to serve the casualty. Change, it brings you into the space age is what it does. And that's something that we really, you know, there's no reason for us to go into the Dark Ages. It's only stupidity on our part or failure because of lack of motivation. And now with generations of equipment, There is, you know, again, I don't throw anything away. Civil defense equipment, medical equipment, I've grabbed everything that we can. Operating tables, lighting, you name it. And everybody goes, well, that's older. I say, yeah, but we're still going to need it because we'll never have enough. So right now, like for instance, for medical support lighting and for lighting in the NBC environment too, because guys, you know, we kind of talked about this. It was at night when Mark was hit by the, uh, the event, because he was in the, you know, crossing the during that period of time, you know, during the evening hours. And it's hard to see the activity. During the day, it's a little hazy or foggy up above. Maybe there was probably material passing overhead, but you just couldn't see it. Or again, it was incendiary and floating in the air and then eventually settles down. Well, eventually it means that, again, the particle gets cooler to head level and below, and it saturates the environment. And it is, remember, the particle is easily filtered. We're not talking something that is some you know, nano-biological, you know, hybrid, made in Star Trek. This ain't nerve gas. Yeah, we're just talking blood that's dropping from above and basically, see here's the thing as I pointed out and I gotta stress this again, what you experience with the fires is what you would experience with a radiological threat. Pretty much in the same combo because remember that all the real black crane is although the altitudes are different because typically again the thermal spike takes place the nuclear device cuts a hole through the environment literally atomizes, you know vaporizes the oxygen creating more and more combustion. Needless to say that's that firestorming effect you've read about to a degree. But then it goes up 80,000 feet and what it does since that blast that creates the direction of the Venturi it pulls everything that has been turned to dust or debris up. hot when it goes up and then it gets cold because eighty thousand feet is not exactly a warm place to be and then it comes back down. Someplace else. Yeah, someplace else. And that's why wind patterns, weather information, this is something that's been talked about in all these sci-fi movies for years, okay? Even with Jericho. Why the guy that stole the nuke went to Jericho? Because he understood the wind patterns, the information available that the DOD had collected, the CIA had collected, blah blah blah blah blah. And guess what? Jericho was in that like, you know, like vapor lock area that was least likely to be a, you know, a problem and most likely survivable. Not the only one, but a really good choice. It is true, the only difference here, a good practice event because again, you have to use all the equipment, you have good confidence in the equipment, it's been demonstrated the technology you invested in works. I can't stress enough that that is, you know, again, the final compliment. Well, was your money well spent? Well, hold on here. See, your money was well spent. Then it goes over to that real estate thing, location, and I need I repeat, you know, two more times. Because like, living downwind from Minot, North Dakota might not be a long-term survivability, even if you just seem to be way out there in the boonies, ah, Mark. Right, that's the other thing. This happened in a, was not directly in contact probably with the fire area, but apparently is a fallout area. Happened on the road. And again, As I've said, the idea is not to get bogged down in the environment, guys. The idea is, if at all possible, unask the AO. Ask for the blast. Remember that's an old Navy saying, but it's also a tanker saying, and anybody else who's got vehicles. Ask for the blast. Two things you're doing. Number one, you're putting, as soon as you turn, you're putting speed on. The idea is to get distance between you and the problem. Every mile, every 10 miles counts. Makes all the difference in the world. Then you have to identify when we get past the you know the outlying you know issues of the initial you know attack and you know Whatever it is in this case for instance we had a secondary plume or we had a primary plume finally Descending and we need to get away from it So we need to determine that mark couldn't do that But he did have the ability to travel effectively because he could see so again dents makes the difference is the solution Remember the farther you get from it the less of it there is and eventually there's none Go ahead, color. Jump in there. All right, Mike. Downwind of, let's see, Minot Grand Forks. You got the Maelstrom. You got one in South Two of them. Yeah. What I would do with your case, I would buy Irish Spring. For the ability to wash off. Well, it's green. No, no, it's green. You wouldn't notice. OK? Just when the glow comes along, it's going to be passive. OK. Irish Spring. Remember that. Go ahead. Trash bags if you don't have chemical suits, Mike. I'm good on the deal with that, but I got the trash bags too so... Hey, if it's really bad, a trash bag over a chemical suit, I ain't proud. Hey, Mr. Vibe, you don't want to be part of your 90%, you know, I'm just saying. Well, one of the things to tie in with that, actually, if you look at some of the pictures in our early YouTube videos, some of the slideshows, well, one of those is me. during one of the days that I'm running the, uh, Kent, one of the, uh, NBC chambers. Okay. If you look, you'll notice that is not a standard kit. And in fact, what I did is a large, uh, 55 gallon garbage bag, the largest thick density available, arm and head hole for it. And that went over the standard NBC suit to create a secondary shield. So I wouldn't be permeated with the agent. And what that does is also extends the life of the primary suit. It allows you to shed that overcoat heavy threat when you're out of the heavy threat area and still moving through a threat environment. Right, another thing that's available, you don't seem like you're used to it, now here's the problem. They're classic, man. It's World War II surplus, dude. Saving Ryan's privates, you gotta have it. Now it's, you know, it's classic. In other words, they're collectible. Oh God. The World War II chem hoods. Actually, they were like a big sandwich bag made for people. It was a desiccant cover with a very unique actual top face front. You put the whole thing over. If you were being sprayed or hit with artillery that was dispersing agent, the idea is that you just ripped it open, shook it out, and put it over your whole person like a big garbage bag. I would do with those is the same thing. I would cut them and actually arrange it the same as they would the bag. But this is by blister agent applique. It has all kinds of other special materials as far as how it was built. And I would use that as an outer shield in the same way. So both bags of course were cheap but I could actually use real NBC equipment in this case a World War II piece of technology and I wanted to test it to see how well it worked and it was excellent there was nothing wrong with the technology and it cost me 35 cents a unit 25 cents if I got about like 10 of them at a time from one of the guys here in Detroit and if I just need one or two 35 cents a piece 40 cents a piece depending what year it was those are not 35 cents a piece if you do run into them grab them they're worth it they really don't go And I'm sure that the plastics and everything that they used back then and the different materials are now all banned by the EPA, blah, blah, blah, blah, because they last forever. It's part of the agenda is to make sure stuff like that doesn't exist so that when the time comes you don't have it. But they do work. And any of the older equipment, I would not retire any mask, for instance, as long as the mask is viable. No gas mask is outdated. The biggest problem is only with, for instance, the oldest mask, and maybe a problem finding filters. Some of the unique civilian masks, whatever mask filters you have, maybe the only ones left, let's put it this way, the 50,000 filters you need are on the other side of the Mississippi, and all the masks are on this side of the Mississippi. Oh, when you talk, that's a good point to bring up, because there are a number of civilian, full-face masks. You can get particulate filters for them you can get moisture filters for them. Well one of the Smith and Wesson models that was out during the sixties used garden hose fixtures for all of the air hookups. So it was part of a civil defense program and the idea was that well what's the one thing you're going to find laying around? Garden hoses. Well guess what? You know everybody goes what kind of thread is that? That's an awfully small thread. It's not 40 millimeter, no it's garden hose. Yeah, and it's like, no one's garden hose, check it out. And the filters, of course, were more like the pipette type inline fuel filters that you have for your lawn mower. Where you have the two pegs at either end, the extensions, and you actually clamp it down with a stainless steel clamp. Built the same way, guys. And the idea was you could improvise and modify in the field. and make them work. Now they came with a standard filter and they were a good mask. I mean, like you said, full face mask, well built. Smith and Wesson spent a lot of money on them. A lot of riot cops used them during the Detroit riots. Before that, and they were offered both that particular design and others were similar. Another thing that popped in there for a little while, and everybody has done this at one time or another, are disposable masks. There were simple defense masks built just for low end chemical and radiological. One of them I call the Wasp mask. It actually is very sci-fi looking. It's the only one that has kind of deco straight lines in the way that it's cast. And it is a very convenient mask. It's easy to use. The way it was designed, it could fit in a pocket. You put it on your face, it's good for however long it's good for, and then you throw it away. You can't rebuild it. You can't redo anything with it. That was the only thing they didn't like about it. But on the other hand, they cranked out a whole bunch of them, and they disappeared into the system over the years. That's another solution. You might run into them, you might see them. They do work. And again, they're designed to filter out particulate like we saw with this forest fire situation. And it's a viable solution. The idea is to get you out of the area. We've also repeated this many, many times. Don't stop moving. In fact, let's do this properly. In the event, for instance, we were all with Mark. And let's say that we didn't hear the radio traffic right away. somebody starts to be affected. Well, the first thing that happens is the people, if it's the driver, maybe everybody else is asleep in the vehicle, you stop the vehicle and don the mask first and then you warn everyone. Does everybody understand that? Because if you're trying to tell everybody and you're sucking in air, you're also sucking in agent and you don't know what the agent is, okay? So in order for everybody else to be warned, First, it's not a selfish thing, it's a common sense thing. You are sounding the alarm. Don your mask and then sound the alarm. Here's what's nice about this. Somebody comes out of a stupor and they're kind of hearing bang bang bang bang bang bang as you're beating metal because that's what you're supposed to do guys. Metal on metal is an audio signature for gas attack. It's as old as gas attacks. Well if you hear that and you look and you see Fred has got a gas mask on, you might even be kind of delirious, but since I should have trained you well, the logic is if Fred's got a gas mask on, I think you better get my gas mask on. You see how that works? There is a positive visual reinforcement no matter the condition of the individual. This is part of Again, a process of notification. If you're sitting there and you kind of start busy, maybe nobody else wakes up. You see? So that's another reason for donning the mask first. Here's the other thing. If you're the driver, you might be able to get us out of this. We're putting our masks on and we're going to get prepped. But the driver is prepped. And if he can determine or he can visually see, for instance, the agent, he can identify that another 500 yards or a half mile, quarter mile, we're out of this, proceeds with his actions. He's done his job. He's informed everybody of the need to don the mask. As long as you can see that everybody is responsive, that's what mirrors are for, remember? Then you continue with the mission. Continue to move the mission and preserve life because you take people out of the contaminant. So there's so many variations, it's mostly common sense, it's mostly again, prior-prior planning prevents piss-poor performance. First rule, get your gas mask on. And before you do that, know how to use your mask. Know everything about your mask. Become a master of the trade. You should be able to put it on without looking at it. You should be able to put it on while you're looking at the threat. In fact, it should be automatic. You reach for it, you have, I don't know if we get a call or hold on, one more point on that. We carry our gas masks in the same location so that in the event you are incapacitated, I know right where to reach in total darkness to put that mask on you. Does everybody understand that? This is not the A-Team and this is not a Hollywood movie where each one of us has to have our own chic costume so that we feel that it is our forte, our niche, our reality, medical support. breathing support along with basic weapon support should all be in the same location so that everybody in pitch blackness can find it and apply it if it's needed for an individual that's in distress. That can be gas masks, that can be medical support as in shot and hurt or any number of other salutable situations. But again, the mask is carried in the same location by all personnel. That's either under the armpit, left side, low mid carry on the belt or low carry and a lot of them even have hanger slings now. They actually put it down at the same level as these new thigh mounted holsters and magazine pouches. But wherever you do, you all commit to the same so that everybody knows where it should be. Go ahead, call or jump in there please. Yeah, the neat thing about the check masks, which Maine military sells, they're new, put them together. Which is, yes, part of the process of warning. In fact, a couple dozens of videos on the subject on each of the mass out there on YouTube. Don't do anything until you've watched several of you cross and compare just in case somebody put something up we didn't know about and isn't right. Example, many of the younger people will buy a gas mask because they're kind of collecting gas masks, which, yay, everybody has stuff they collect. And one of them had a mask. Well, he's putting it on. Can't figure out why it's just so big. Well, he's a young guy, look about 17. He's a medium lean build. and he's got a size 4 or 5 mask, a pumpkin head mask, and he's trying to put it on a size 1-2 head. Well, it will go over, but it will not seal. So this is where we need to learn or pay attention. Well, the guy was basically what he was doing, just showing the collection he had. And that particular mask was one of the possum masks. And it's all floppy on him and he's like, eh, you know, I don't know why it doesn't seal and I can't adjust it. And I actually commented and sent him a message, just like, hey, by the way, do a little more research, number ridicule, but always remind that there's numbers on the masks for a reason. Okay? That's the size. Now, find out what sizing system that country has, and then figure out what you need, and then trade up to what works for you. But I never get rid of a mask, mask away. I don't even throw damage, because I might need something off it. Or I might need something just to make a dummy. Okay? Think about that, guys. uh... gas masks look awfully human when they put them on a pumpkin. You know what I mean? Or like a gourd or a rowler like a human trying to put eyeballs with a magic marker on a pumpkin face, right? Yeah. And so they give high confidence. You can even conceal dead people that way because they're wearing gas masks. Kinda hard to see what's going on behind the gas mask, right? Yeah. Yeah, we got a whole army here. Well, three-quarters of them are dead. You won't know. They look very impressive. They're really a good army. Yeah. Alright, again, the Legion is still standing. Yes, sir, if he's standing. We buried them standing. That's what happened to the French in Indochina, by the way, in the Highlands, if you don't know that. Which means how they showed that in the way we bougie-est. Yes, standing up and facing France. That's what they did with the grazers still there in the Highlands in Vietnam. The one expeditionary force was wiped out to a man and they buried him standing up, lime pitted each one of the bodies so that they're in a wine and they will never grow anything on that spot where the bodies are. See it from the air. If you know where to look you can actually see it from satellite. Thousands of bodies all standing upright facing France, whichever direction that might be. They're already on the other side of the world. So you can point their heads in any direction and technically they were facing France, right? Hommon du. Again, this is a good subject and it was a good Thank you for the feedback for our truck driver Mark. It was in the two hour block. We talked about this. Everybody else that was in that situation was stuck on the road, guys. 20, 30 trucks, 10 trucks, you know, he said 20 trucks. So 20 vehicles shut down and stop in the epicenter of an event. In other words, I'm choking. I can't breathe. I can't see. I want to stop the truck right here where I'm choking and I can't see and I can't breathe. Was your situation going to get better under those conditions? Probably not, right? So this is where, fortunately, he had an M40, military mask, good mask, fire proper planning, prevents. Because if you can still squint, put a pair of goggles on and, you know, wrap your head with a wet towel, then, you know, squint your way down the road to get out of the environment. Because personally, I would do that. If I couldn't do anything else, I sure as hell would be getting out of the area. Oh, yeah. You see what I mean? So he did the right thing. And any of you might be in the same situation or worse in the future. Another thing there, real quick, chem suits. I noticed something, did a quick survey. A lot of the Czech and Polish chem suits and the Hungarian ones have disappeared here in the last couple of weeks. In fact, in the last seven days, because I was surveying those and thinking, man, these are so cheap. They're cheaper than wholesale from the retail end, they were. Somebody figured that out when it was scarfed them all. Seconds over at their bees, which are good. They're rating them based on the bag that they're carried in, but I believe they're the Polish or the Czech at main military. And the units themselves, the coveralls and everything are fine. The booties are fine, it's just that the bag outside doesn't look as pretty as the other ones. So they rated them as category B. Well the bag doesn't make any difference. It's the, you know, again, condition of the suits and the equipment itself. So that's a solution still. But I went to my wholesalers and nobody has any filters and nobody has any chem suits. So what's going on there? But somebody drained the you know, they see that term during drain the swamp the case they drain the inventory watching and hoping I just sent a million sent me a message I can't get into the emails right now But I did ask about an up-and-coming batch of gas mass filters or 40 millimeter. They're probably Hungarian It will be NBC full nuclear biological chemical not not the high end but mid-end. What's really interesting about the Hungarian filters is that they actually are using the international OSHA standards for marking the filters. If you guys are familiar with personal protective equipment, you know, based on what grains yourselves, you can read the filter to identify its defense capability. Let's see under these. That's nice. Okay, not everything can be done that way. You usually have to do a little research. Another thing, night vision technology. Yes you can use thermal with gas masks. Yes you can use thermal or night vision with gas masks. You have to. At some point you're going to have to work them kids. Again, we need to get hold of Don. We're at the top before we father Don. Number for night vision is the web page. You'll be available in a minute. The phone number is 231-965. The website is ydtol.us. You go over there and you look at goggles and gun sights and binoculars and gun sights and binoculars and gun sights. And if you have any questions about what's the price on the aforementioned items, because I can't, well, we can reduce the price that you see there if you give me a call. My number is 231-796. Why dealing with a stranger when Don Betcher is available, guys. Hey, another question, somebody had a question about the Smith & Wesson MP40s. I think they're a beautiful pistol. I really do. I've had a chance to look at them close. They're nice guns, but the 40s were more difficult for magazines, and several people warned me about this. So I'm going to warn you, the 40s, if you see spare mags, you should buy them. The 9 seem to be pretty common, the M&P and 9mm. Both guns are very serviceable, very comfortable. In fact, I'm going to tell you something, they're as comfortable and natural an aim point for me as a 1911. Screw this, I can screw that weapon right into the target, and it's just and it's one of those things, guys, I was a competition shooter, I fired more 45 rounds you ever will in your lifetime. Okay, more 45 ACP. I mean, the government just shoveled it at us, okay? And you screw that gun in, and the Smith, and I'm sure, I've not compared the dimensions, but I am sure that they did a little more work, and like what the guys did with the 80% Glocks, you know, they said their 1911 style frame, even though they're a Glock design, they take Glock parts. Same situation, it has the same feel, it's like a 1911 A1, it fits out the palm really well so you don't have any give or variance. The only variance you are going to have is that first round shot that meat between the thumb and the index finger is going to have to settle. You can't change that. That's going to happen with every gun you shoot no matter what it is because your muscle memory, your compression, has to take place before the gun settles where it naturally will be. For however many rounds you choose to dump after that. When you're doing a five-round relay, that first round is the one that will be that little fingernail crescent off of the group. It can be a little more, a little less, depending on how you feel that day and how you're focusing. first shot is usually at two o'clock between two and three o'clock usually not that deep to three. Two o'clock to one thirty. Okay and after that everything else will stay right on the quarter. One two three four five or six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen. But that muscle set, the reason that first round is off like that. Change it you can if you're lucky it'll be still an X. It's always an X but it'll be a slightly different X. from the other four rounds behind it or however many you decide to pull on target. Or repeat on multiple targets where you shift your body a little bit and keep that weapon. Don't change hands, don't move around, keep that weapon under control, keep it rested and you will have the most efficient groups you could possibly imagine or at least again combat repetition shots over and over and over again if you're looking at multi-targets. Again, good gun, sights, excellent. I've never hammer. uh... but you know what it's got everything else you need and i've got a lot of world war two and pre-world war two handguns and cannons you know like the brownings that do not have a hammer and i've carried them for so many years i you know lost count going to actually each one i don't know how many hours i've carried them but it's you know in the it's in years and the guns have been safe i've never had an actual discharge never had a problem with them in fact i woke up compliment brownie again the model nineteen twenty two is one of the most convenient pocket pistols made They actually brought them back in, back in the 70s, and I think they resurrected them again back around 98 or so. So they're actually out there. The Model 1910, and then the extended slide is the Model 1922. They're in 32 out over 380. They work fine. But the Smith, I don't see anything wrong with it. I've got people right now, the guys were just showing me one of theirs, they've shot probably a thousand rounds through. M&P, maybe the military's using it. You never know. They're supposed to have some, but you know. Another thing too, somebody's been asking about Israeli IMI mags for like the Jericho's and such. Go to CDNN Investments, CDNN Investments.com. They have magazines and typically they have the IMI Israeli Military Industry mags. A lot of guys bought those Jericho's years ago and a bunch of Jericho's coming in right now. I think they're Mark II-ers. or threes or whatever they are. There's some goofy designation on them. Those are military and police guns that came from the Israelis. Remember I mentioned them? E-Sarco Inc. was one of the importers and they spread the wealth and those guns are showing up. So if you got a Jericho and you want another one, that's where people are going. They're getting the military surplus. A good gun built like a brick dog house, kind of like the same weight as a, what, a Desert Eagle but in a 9mm? Oh God. Easy design. Yeah, it's a rip-off gun. Don't think you can think about it. Really, don't build anything of their own. They steal from everybody else. It's not a bad design. It's very comfortable. Shot the snot out of those years ago. So if you want mags, put a C, E, N, N investments, but you've got to be patient. All of them have for a few minutes. After that, you're driving a green-eye-bined coconut cake to the moon.
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