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We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free. with the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate. And your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press. and you pay attacks you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seasonally farm and keep our country But men of God in jail, harass your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children will be. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores, and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of plan, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God your freedom, bright as I awoke he'd vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true, not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as pirates trampled each god-given right, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep, and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? instead send it on your phone. Right now that would be the coolest thing that could be done and it can be done so easy. You got a phone tree, can you send a message to everybody? How about you send them a copy of that poem that you just presented from the past? That means you need to find out what your phone does, how to make your phone work for us, the Patriot effort in general, and then send it on your phone. Everywhere. Social media. Take a copy right off the Visitor from the past by Thelen Palk. Don't put author unknown by Thelen Palk Vietnam veteran from Holland, Michigan Thelen, Thalen Palk. Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen. This is the... ...a quirky... ...loser to victory for all our brothers and sisters both in occupied territories West, Southeast. Gentlemen, you're listening to us. Crow stations, C-E-B base stations, Net Hallmark and Golden Spike Technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with our friends in the great state of Jefferson. With California wanting to leave, we've got to keep pumping that up. We really, really, really got to keep pumping that up. Yes, we want California gone. We need to take all those pieces of trash that drifted up from California to Seattle to Coma. round their sari arses up and dump them over there in LA or San Fag, Cisco and cut them off of the country. They got the right idea. We're just going to finish it. Turds in Oregon the same way, shovel their arse down there in the same spot where they came from. Because all these POSs came from the same locations. Same contamination. It was like a swirried along over to another state. Came out to Arizona, but they pretty well kicked them back. Everybody's pretty well tired of their BS in Arizona. So they've been losing ground left and right there. on Texas because they get a colony in Austin these days walking and you beat the living snot out of two. I'm trying to kill you. Hell, now they're tearing down the one American flag left on the campus and burning it if they can. Really? Well, that tells you something about the turd you got there, guys, and what they're planning on doing to you. You better plan on doing to them. Before we get to far, let me get the data in there real quick. Connect to November, eighth year of open Fabian socialist and Soviet socialist occupation of America of the Canadian 2016 older calendar, 2016 year of battle, year of storm. Go ahead, caller. Yeah, you know you mentioned California's got the right idea and you know what a shame. What a beautiful piece of property California is to the United States and how it's been taken over by the communists. I mean what a shame. Yeah, but you know why? Oh yeah, but why? Think about it. What you just described. These turds always are a parasite that have to work off somebody else. They have to parasite off somebody who labors. and they expect you to keep laboring until you're literally skin and bone. And you know they finally did that. Think about this, you've done a lot of driving in California, haven't you? Oh yeah. Right? You know you got on that Northside route, what happens when you get over there and you're heading towards Bakersfield out of you, you come out of LA, you go up the ridge there, right? And you got the reservoirs off to the coast side, right? Just right there off the expressway. In fact, you look down at them, can't you? Yep. and you get over the ridge and there's all of these canals that were built by people who were builders and people who were thinkers and people who wanted to produce food, which is why those valleys bloomed. And then the communist turd, for years they were smart enough to leave things alone, but the communist turd can't leave anything alone. So what happened to the farmers over the last several years? What did it look like in a lot of those farm areas and why? Did they cut off the canal water? Yes, they did. I was just there. Those canals are full of water, Mark. I don't know. That's what gets me. Yes, exactly. Those canals aren't dry. But you've got to remember how the scam works. The turds, they're micromanaging. What happens is why you can't take that from there. The communists have been doing in California what I've described in the Ukraine years ago. The only thing they couldn't do is kill off the rancher or the farmer by going in with the in SKVD troops and banetting him to death. But if he tried to tap in and use the water, they would have. Because there would be some pig in a black uniform with a bunch of other pigs from the EPA and the state and all those pigs would go in without any questions asked and kill that farmer and kill anybody with him. Wouldn't they? Sure, they would, yeah. Yeah. So what's the difference between that and Communist Russia? Well, nothing. It's just, my point was, it's just such a beautiful property. It's a beautiful piece. And that's why they go there. And when they poop in it to the point where there's nothing but yellow water and Hershey sliced baby roots floating around next to you, sticky Hershey bars and sticky baby Ruth bars with chunks of peanut and corn in them. You know what? The feces bird when they realize they can't go any farther, they get up and they go somewhere else where it looks nice, just like you said, and they plop their sorry ass down and they do it to us again. We need to shoot them out of this country. That's the problem. You know, here's the thing. Oh, God, I've got to make it work. I've got to make it work. They count on that. So you and I beat our brains out while they create impossible conditions that are purely designed to waste our lives energy. It's why we need to. We have this conversation and I understand what Joe is talking about because this morning we were talking about the idea we'll give Trump a chance. I am. I'm giving him about 15 minutes. I'll give him 15 minutes. I'll give him 30 days and that's the most. But the first 24 hours, as soon as he plops his ass down, he knows he's got a pen in hand. It's going to take a few minutes to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic there. But other than that, I'm down to get go because I don't want to give my enemy any time to reorganize or re-strengthen their position. The bureaucracy is our enemy. The bureaucracy is Trump's enemy. If he starts embracing it, thinking somehow it's going to run business as usual, that's not why everybody sent him there. You see what I mean? This is a war. You've been at war. We're all at war. He's a billionaire and he's going to do what billionaires do. He's going to be thinking about Trump before he thinks about anybody else. Well, he has an interest. I don't have a problem with that. No, no, don't. Okay, listen. I don't have a problem with anybody being wealthy. We have people. Seriously, everybody always laments about that. Why? Now, as long as he has his wealth down the street and he doesn't try to hurt me or muck with me. I think it's wonderful he's in this little weird limousine that's too damn small for the money he paid for it. Okay, I understand that. Goodbye. So look, a cigar limousine. There it goes. Laugh at it. Now you turn around and you tell me that you're going to do something with my land or you're going to do something with me. I'll kill you. Your money won't do you anything. That's where our attitude, that's one of the things that we, this country has the ability, we have a greater ability to do that the way it should be done, which is threat count. ever in the history of this nation, which is why they're trying to explain to you that you're all by yourself and that the enemy is always 50-50 to you. This is what I've been getting at. They are terrified that the American people will finally understand that we can wield not just equal but superior coercive force wherever we wish to. That's why they bring those little goon squads out there and they waddle them out and then you got all the piss willies and the naysayers and the cowards that everybody listens to rather than listening to the warrior. And everybody goes, what are we doing? Well it's like how about we get rid of the bastards? If we do, see when Waco took place, one of the reasons the Branch Davidians should have been supported by us, and this gets back to a classic, everybody said well if they did this and they did this and they did this we'd have to do this. But people were not ready for this large an operation, planned for one whole year operation against a group of people in this country like that. The Branch Defending Attack was planned a year in advance, trained to be done over and over again, and they still failed. Because of that failure, they had to pour resources from all over the country from the secret police, desperately try and put the kibosh to the idea that those bat faggots got their asses handed them on two platters. One butt-chic here, one butt-chic there. Why? Because the whole, the whole precept of everything, the whole concept of everything, the whole idea that they plant is it's fuel resist, you will be absorbed, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah If every man, woman and child realizing like in the Ukraine, I mean I want you to think about, let's reverse it, because Waco was a baby Ukraine. I asked somebody about this years ago, I said, why didn't everybody just grab something sharp and cut this? We just cut them. Everybody, there's 10,000 of you in a village. 100 ass hats show up that are with the KGB, well, NSKVD, or the Czechoslovakia. just walk out and everybody take your chances. There's not enough of them to stop you. Well, everybody was hoping it would be just a little farther down the road. I said, yeah, that's the problem. And they went farther down the road. In 15 months, they started most of the population of the Ukraine to death. In reality, what Alexander Solzhenitsyn said, they are terrified you will learn now like our founding fathers did. Founding fathers did not wait until there were bodies lying in front of homes that had starved to death and tried to walk out of their house and died and expired on their sidewalk or driveway. They didn't wait for that. American War for Independence was a preemptive war to ensure that that would not happen to our people and it cost, but it was a better cost completely ensnared in the Burak. And then that sucking death. By the way, in England, people died just like we're talking about. on a regular basis on any English street, on any number of different hobble locations that were all over the country with a bureaucracy that hated the population and looked down upon them in every way. Everybody had their title to look down on everybody else. One tier looking down on the other, one looking down on the other. And that's the scam that's always played. That's the scam that's being played right now in this country. All of the, we'll give them a title, give them a title. It's like in our township. We got piss willies right now ripping our people off left and right. They should be dragged down the on. No discussion, no talk with them, because we won't do any good. And I'm sure you see they're all puffed up on themselves, or they all go along with until somebody walks in with a rope. Up until that point, they love pissing on you. Did they send cops out to threaten Fred, because his septic field was two inches this way and four inches that way? Yep, they did. We beat him down, we got him locked up. show him ha ha ha ha what do you guys here for? Oh you beat Fred we're here to hang your ass. What but you can't do that? No actually it's in the rules. It's called you screwed it up for screwing with you. How's that sound? How do you like it? How do you like me now? Go ahead call it. Oh yeah I hate to interrupt the program but I got to do this. Tomorrow's the end of the month. Do you want to do the drawing on Wednesday or do you want to do it on Friday? We got a drawing on the morning on Wednesday. How about we do it on Let's do it on Friday. Friday at 8 PM? That will give everybody more time too. In fact, thank you for reminding me of that. Very good. Again, thank you for kicking in there. We do have the end of the month drawing. 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Let's go back. I mentioned the Ukraine, but I got away from Waco. Let's find out again what happened at Waco. A company-strength, heavy infantry unit provided with helicopter support from the air and gunfire from the air. In other words, they were gunships. They just weren't heavy. We call them light gunships. combined with a combat infantry force with assault rifles, MP5 submachine guns, and all of the technology available to the gooberman for spying. For one year, they built a mock-up in Fort Hood, Texas, so that gives you an idea under George Herbert Walker Bush's ATF regime, which was anti-gun, George Bush was anti-gun, and George Bush proved it over and over again. The purpose for the ATF was George to prove this so they could get more money so they could make the ATF bigger in the second term of George Herbert Walker Bush to go after and to make O-4. Bill Clinton, they decided that since George already had all of the 80s as President de facto one way or the other, that they were going to trade off. So they put Bill Clinton in there. Now Bill was supposed to be the opposite of good old George, but that's not what happened, was it guys? And Bill Clinton signed off on and ensuring that the ATF would continue with their combat operation planned against the American people. So they trained and they trained and they planned and they planned and they just had bigger guns than what they did. No, they had bigger you-know-what's and they had the high ground, the moral high ground because they were defending their wives and their children. The parasitic black uniform, knuckle dragging, low IQ'd, tiny weenie POS's that came out to puff up their inventory and they did exactly what they planned on doing. and everybody. Initially only a couple of people shot. And the reason they had to take the doors off the building and run away with them at the end of the fire, at the very end of the siege, is because all the bullets went in, none of the bullets went out. But they did a propaganda movie that was done in record time. Puff up just the reverse. You might recall that movie's out there waddling around by the parasites. You know how long it normally takes to make a movie? You realize they had a propaganda movie and they did it in days to get it out during the siege? Does everybody remember this? Do you know what it takes to put a movie production together? This was a Jewish damage control piece done in wartime speed because they were waging war against you and you didn't know it. Well, most of us. Progressively everybody decided we better either fight for our lives or obviously they're trying to kill all of us, which was very apparent because people were killed in their beds, women and children were shot, all by these backpacks. The Batfaggots ran out of ammunition and then decided they needed to talk. They should have all been shot right there. There was plenty of ammunition. Every last one of them should have been shot right there. They should have been killed. We know better now, don't we guys? When fighting a force like this, after you try to talk and try to talk and try to talk in the attack twice, and then they attack a third time, and then they want to talk after the third attack, the reason they wanted to talk is between all of them. They couldn't have committed effective suicide. They had to put two heads side by side to blow their own brains out. At that point, with better communications and with the Patriot effort communicating and doing a better job of it, guys, we could afford resources in there. It would not have ended the way it did. But we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, we also, same government stooge press during Waco. It came on anybody who listened to them. But it was a great excuse to not do anything. I argued that. We got into debate, we got into arguments right from the get-go. What do we do? Why are we... We can't sit on our hands. People in Texas that were right there didn't do check squawks. Texas, okay, I understand Texas is big. How did you stop Waco? Or did everybody go along? Because after all, Texas Rangers are down there helping the people at Waco. And if the Texas Ranger's doing it, it's okay. Is that the story? Oh, that's right, because you had that Kung Fu Texas Ranger down there, too. Yeah. During that is when I did American Peril. Why? Because we had been in the fight for a long time, guys. A lot of people had. And this was a culmination of that in the warning that we'd all given before about this escalation by George Herbert Walker Bush against the gun owners and against firearms in general because that Neocon pig was trying to disarm America. And that Neocon pig is the one that planned Waco, along with the rest of his Neocon kosher mafia. But for all of that training and with all that resource guys, women, young men, very few, mostly grandpas and armed themselves and started fighting back to at least defend their lives. And that's what it took, had to arm. What if in the Ukraine, see this is what Solzhenitsyn said, oh how we burned in the camps, realizing we had had nothing to lose. And if we had waited in the dark places when the people came out, when the people came out with their black buses and their black uniforms, instead of cowering at every creek on the stairway or every beat at the door, instead with objects we waited, destroyed the operatives, machine, government, any savage or lowlife or pig or criminal would have done. That's what they did. It was the women and the grandmas and the grandpas and fully young guys, like all of you listening in many cases, actually beat the snot out of a combat infantry unit with helicopter support because they chose to fight, because they realized they weren't going to take any prisoners. You know, that works. find your grandpa sitting at his bed with bullet holes in his head and his chest still holding the piece of toast he was eating for breakfast when the bat faggots rained bullets down from above from the helicopters and murdered the man while he was getting up. What was the name of that gentleman who was shooting at him and his wife and his wife had the baby in her arms and they were shooting at him. I put a bullet right through the wife and all that. What was that other one? Several items. The whole story I could pull it out. The whole idea here is Randy Weaver. You're talking about the case before. That's apples and oranges. You're talking two different situations. No I understand. Weaver's case was before and that was under Bush also. Well, my point was they attacked them when their guard was down too. That was my point. Well, they attacked because they were isolated and pretty much it's like cowboys and Indians. The savages attack outposts at random. When you're on a ridge line and you're on the edge of Indian country, so to speak, it's like being like Ricciasur, Kentucky. You read about Daniel Boone and read about the Ohio. And being on the ridge was being on the edge of Indian territory. And raids happened all the time. There wasn't a time when you weren't supposed to be ready. And even if you were ready, if you were in the wrong place at the right time, it just happened. Well, that's how the government operates. There are savages. They attack and they, you know, that's why it's a raid. Well, of course it's a raid. You're savages. Illegitimate savages. Illegitimate savages that need to be shot. That's part of the problem with this is, you know, and again, remember, the Weaver siege did not happen under Bill Clinton. The Weaver attack happened under George Herbert Walker Bush, Republer Rat. George Herbert Walker Bush was attacking all firearms owners. Non-stop rat, guys. Go ahead, call her, jump in there, please. Oh, yes, sir. Fine. Okay, I understand what Hoda's saying. Five were asked. Two thousand. They should have arrived today. What are you talking about? Now, okay, my problem with that is where'd they get the two thousand feds from? Who said this? Oh, that's as in veterans. Okay, yeah, no, no, I'm just sorry. It sounds like you said feds. I was going to say, see the problem with that is it's kind of like the thing with Oregon. You know, they puff themselves up by putting a man in every vehicle, remember, like in Oregon. They don't have 2,000 feds. They can bring 2,000 feds together, but they have to scour whole areas to do it. And it doesn't mean they don't have lots more. We've got so many parasites in government. You know, you don't have clothing that I'm sure they could find bodies here. I understand that there is a response taking place there. My only problem with this is which vets because the problem is I can take you to Facebook. Every other article being done by the supposed water protesters is they hate white people, they hate the American blah blah blah blah blah. I'm not getting into that anymore. I understand, I've used that piece about the girl being hit with a grenade. Because I understand that these people are all playing, they're playing on one side against people with guns on the other and that doesn't work. I'm tired of this. This is where our problem is. You know what? Everybody comes half dressed while the other side comes ready to kill. You know what I mean? It's like we're going to approach it. No, this is not, that doesn't work. It really doesn't work. In fact, there's the casualties. There are going to be casualties forever. That girl's lost her arm. It's not growing back. And in the long run, they're not going to accomplish what they're supposed to accomplish. But even if they do, to a degree, here's my problem is, riding with them, hate me. I've been reading what they're saying. I'm a white. I'm a male. They hate me. It's like Black Lives Matter, but with Indian feathers. And we've got friends that are in all the nations. And part of that may be just that they were foolish enough to let some idiots mouth like that, but you know what? It's like anything else nowadays. When I see stuff like that, again, it bleeds out, that kind of gives you the flavor for it. It's kind of like the socialists. They want you there, but only because they need some bodies while they're busy playing. You get my drift? I don't normally say that, but I've seen too much of this now and over and over again. This is especially when you start seeing the on the one hand, it's like you should feel bad for us, but we hate you. We're schizophrenic. You should feel bad for us and support us, but we hate you. We hate you, and we hate you, and you hate you, but come and support us. So I guess it's selective support. If we show up and we're, I mean, for instance, let me give you an example. They already are using shields. They're already using some technology. Why don't they ever have their act together and actually be squared away before they get on the ground? Well, I don't know. I'm just wondering, probably some militia is not going to back something like this. Well, I'll tell you, here's one of the reasons why. What I see, did you see some of the pieces they've done? Let me give you an example. I brought this up on the air. Maybe you've seen it, maybe you haven't. Some of the guys listening are in Facebook right now, too. If you go to like Facebook or Twitter or whatever, you know, well look, I had this armed stand-off in Oregon and they didn't use water cannon. All those bastard white people were up there. That's why, because those bastard white, well no, how about it's because they were armed with the teeth and willing to fight. I guess, well, hold on. The last report I read was 2000 and they should be there right and getting their comms. Now, many people. Okay, nothing to lose anymore. I guess my question is Mark, Alicia, that... Okay, but I don't think they do. I've watched enough propaganda. When you have leftists, it's like I was saying earlier, okay, this is an example of why I wouldn't commit to certain things. Before, and I'm going to pull you over to Europe again, the communist revolution was not the revolution. Before the Communists took over, there was this coalition of people, mostly just like you and me, who were like, hey, Russia needs to get up to the new world, the modern world, we're not plebes and peasants, we need to change the government, the Romanov, maybe back all the people to rule themselves a little more. What happened is they wanted a general uprising slash a revolt, but it was supposed to be, what's that term? Oh, it was supposed to be peaceful. The Communists got into every level and we had to have this big coalition so can't we just get along? Everybody needs to love everybody. We all need to get along and ignore what their backgrounds are. The Communists got into everything. They got the government to change a little bit and it started to look like the American system is what happened for about full seven months. Then the Communists came out of the woodwork at every level, backstabbed everybody, started the Red Terror, everybody they could that they could find that had a voice and that started the white Russian revolt but it still again wasn't proper where it needed resources and so eventually the Communists had their way. Characters around the ground there, a big chunk of if you read all their stuff they're a raving communist. They hate me. Anybody listening out there who is thinking in terms of America. In fact you'll keep hearing the same BS about internationalists and no border and blah blah blah and that's the flows of the flags. The veterans On the other hand, here's the thing. Just because they're a veteran doesn't mean that they're infiltrating the movement. Yeah, but they're all through the... No. And all the citizens want to do is save their water supply. I understand what they're arguing, but... ...over Freemasons. My question is, why is such a non-fair? Because what they're saying doesn't match with our ideology. I don't have any interest in the oil companies. I know what kind of skanks they are. But I'm not going to decide. See, this is the problem. It's kind of like feces pie A or feces pie B. And everything that they've done so far, every time, it's always these hairballs that they want, it's like they want a rag. I don't have a problem with a rag tag. I've worked with anything and everything in the way of resources. But I get a feel, and I'm going to tell you right now, I don't trust that situation. And I can't step forward. I can't step forward for it. I think what the Patriots sitting back going when is enough enough and are we gonna wait until we're so in full I mean the average American being American that does not have a girl militia and people you know the average person that looks to you and lives in and going So when are we ever going to get our bill? This is what I said this morning. We're at the weekend level that there's just anything can start it now. Even display. See that's my problem is a lot of people are doing the Trump's and I don't need to do anything now. Remember I, that's what I explained to everybody this morning. You're hearing that from certain people. Now I would point out the people that are saying that would never get off off their dead ass and do anything. That is the latest excuse, a train of excuses. The problem is this is a big country. to explain for years. It's like where you and I are talking right now, we're talking instantaneously. If while something, while we're doing the program, somebody were kicking your door, you would have to suffer with listening or trying to do what I could to get hold of whoever I could to help you down there where you are. There's nothing I could do. It is the frustration of space communications, reality and distance. On top of reality and distance is reality and size. I have fielded armies across this country. I've put 2,000 people in Montana before. We did back with the Freeman siege. I helped to finance. I took resources I didn't really have because I couldn't want to spread them across the country. And many other people helped out. And the Freeman siege is probably the best example. Some of the people that went, didn't want to listen to a word we said because they watched too many television programs. The water just blows over the land and oh it's just going to, we all need to bring water with us. And you try to explain, and this is just the difference between being here in Michigan, we have water everywhere. It's like it's green, it's tempered in Montana, it must be the same. Just something as simple as water, people did not listen to about what needed to be done. I've put thousands of people, or we've helped with 100 sieges or 100 fights and we've won them. This thing, I don't see anybody winning because of the management. Just like I was talking about Oregon. Oregon was an interesting idea. We are, fortunately, thank you Lord, in the long run just like the Hautari case. The Hautari case was, there was nothing illegal. There was nothing quite questionable. They just came out to see if they could get away with it. We proved that, came out in the court records. With Oregon, they could have done the same thing with private land, built up the people up there, still been in place and would be a thorn in their ass right now. But they chose that federal public land. And then, you know, it started to do the miscommunication and in fact, like I said, as I've walked through this step by step, they're all the way across the country. I've talked to all those people at one point or another. It had discussions on the very subjects that became the problem. And it's individuals, each part, you know, battlefields, you can't manage, battlefields change the moment you get somebody on the ground in the first arrow fly. With the Dakotas, I get a bad feeling about it, for a very different reason. Because the lines share the people there. No, they're not interested, really, in the water. They're there because it's a socialist political statement. And they're the ones who have soured it for me. I can't trust them. I, if I were to show up with a heavy infantry unit, they should be just as well armed. But you know what's going to happen? All these characters are like this, always do the, no, no, no, we're just going to show them and we're going to hold the ground and they're going to be so awe inspired, but we don't do anything and we don't get armed up and we don't do this and we don't do this. Like, okay, you've got the shopping list. And so when they come across and they roll over you, uh, we use harsh language and dive valiantly, but we don't die poorly because we're not probably prepared. See, that's how I pick and choose, because unless you're willing to, you see, I am willing to. See, you better understand that about me. I think you do. I think most everybody does. I used to be the, well, see, I'm dual on this. I will be as reasonable with you as I used to be more, if you want to call it reasonable, people who mark, you got to talk to these guys, because it'll go to a war. And my argument is good. Progressively I've said, yes, good. I guess it's time, isn't it? You better be ready. How many times have people come to me in 20 years? You need to do something! This thing could escalate! And initially, you know what? I spent a decade running around doing that over the country. And I watched this step by step and I could pick out who the rats were as soon as I hit the ground. And what I mean by rats are people on one hand You know, they want something done, but they will be the first to disappear and always were. When things either got serious or they were the federal agent, they would disappear because the game wasn't going to play out with them, you know, doing the usual, let's negotiate and then you surrender and then we have our way with you and torture you for the rest of your life. The idea is long-term planning. Let me give you an example, the Bundy Ranch thing. Let's go back to Bundy Ranch. I repeated this over and over again and I would point out something else. Well, I'm going to wait. I'm getting ahead of myself. Number one, with the Bundy Ranch. You're not just fighting that war, you're not just fighting that battle. When you go home, you better be ready to protect each other. Better make them understand, you mess with anybody, aw, come find your s- your sorry hind end and we'll do you there. Not just out there with the Bundys, but all the people who went out there to support the Bundys. Should've been ready for that. Let me ask you something, guys. Here's a fun question. I'm gonna move step four a little bit on this. Were there people arrested after the Bundy Ranch around the country? Yes. There were? Were there? Okay. How many oath keepers were grabbed? Zero. Anybody notice that? No, I'm talking about the oath keepers in the management. How many of the management were grabbed? Not there, none. No, oath keeper rank and file like you and me. See, this is the one thing you gotta watch. How many people that were leading militia units around the country? From the Bundy Ranch, not the Oregon thing, the Bundy Ranch. Okay. There have been people that were grabbed around the country. How many oath keepers were grabbed that were management because they were out there in the camera's face, they went out there and they were armed, they were out there in the defense of the ranch. But when the time came here, through the pecking order of things, oath keepers have a good communication system, don't they? Pretty well interconnected. They're all cops. So shouldn't they have been affected the same way because they went out armed, they went out to the site, they were on the property, they weren't just out there on the edge. They were on the property. Other people were attacked for being on the property and for having arms and for just being there. Now we expected that. I've warned everybody about this. This is the part about the On the one hand, it's good because how does a war start? Progressively, people realize that they have the authority to manage themselves. And the other side continues to play the authoritarian game until there's a final coming ahead. One person pulls a trigger, the other one, I don't care which. I don't care who does it. Somebody said like, it's like the American war for independence. Well, the British go, colonial could have fired, why not? Colonials could have fired, it's just as good as any reason to get the war going. Why not? Everybody was tired of waiting. What you just said, what you're asking me is a question, was addressed the exact same way back then. But you'll notice a bunch of panty ways will go, well we can't fire the first shot. Well, technically we're not. We didn't pick our houses up or we didn't pick the Bungee Ranch up and take it down the road with a bayonet attached to it and attack the government. In all cases, the regime must come down the road and attack us. So if they come down the road and they're hell bent for election in high speed, it's like the... Now hold on, I want to point this out. If that was me and I had any kind of better security, the Branch Davidians, for instance, I'd have mowed up both of those troop carriers so bad it made your head swim. I've been firing on the helicopters the moment they were perceived as a threat. I would have been wiping out what was on the ground. I'd have put a bullet on them before they got close. the difference between Evilo Mark and other people who are nicer? I'm saying I'm fairly decent on most of them. I'm not bragging. I'm just saying I'll be decent to everybody I can. But once you've decided what we're talking about here, it's no holds barred and you hunt them until you get rid of them all and that has to be in your mind. You get rid of them all. You can't be half arsed about it. And that's what happens. It's like this protest up there in the coast. Well, you can show up, but don't bring your guns. Well, you can show up, but don't look militant. The other side looks very militant. You're walking around with trashcan shields. You should have better armor. Everybody should add a helmet right from the get-go. They're piss-will-y cheap. Are you serious about this or are you half-assed about this? See, I don't go in half-assed. I don't want to... I plan on bringing... And it won't happen, no matter what. But I was trained we don't leave anybody behind. But that means also bringing out your dead and your wounded. And that's the reality of what... If I were to go to the Dakotas it'd be like, how are we gonna screw these asses up? Let's go have a conversation with them. I show up nowadays, I plan on killing everything in front of me. That's the math formula and the only math formula that's gonna work in this thing. So I'm not talking about a conversation, I don't protest anymore. In that respect, if I were to go to where there's a protest, it'd be like, why don't you have your shit together? What? You've got all these people with the ability to fight. It's like I said, it was like a big... Let me give you an example of a Bundy Ranch. I even brought this up how many times? With the Bundy Ranch thing. They were treating it like it was a football tailgate party. Okay, I show up. You, you, you, you swing and dink over there. That other swing and dink over there. First of all, everybody come over here. Who's got any military time? Okay, okay, okay. Now, how many, what were ya? Don't tell me you were a field marshal. Don't tell me you were a grand admiral. Were ya a corporal? Sergeant? What? Congratulations, that's your new job. Sergeant, not fleet admiral, not captain. Sergeant, now we're gonna put a stinking army together. How many of you people have any time in the field at all? Who's militia here? Well, why are half you over here, two of you over there, and six of you over there by the bonfire picking your ass? Mine. See, that's my problem with this, is you see, if I were to come in, or anybody like me, and if there was, I'm gonna tell you, hold on, I'm gonna tell you something else. Do you know that conversation we're having right now? Do you know I had this with the people that you're talking about through at the Oregon standoff? Problem is showing up, this ain't a stinkin' tailgate picnic. There's the problem, why? Because I value your life's Can I ask you, so how much longer is this about... Oh, I don't think it's... We're lucky. ...before everything keeps getting deteriorated. When is the... And I respect you. I just ask you, here's the problem. I respect the fact that you have militia re-wear. Wonder how much longer before militia... Let me point something out. This is another thing. When Waco took place, and initially, the government was all puffed up about that. The Jewish Mafia, the Shysters, the Israelis, they were bragging because they got a chance to kill Americans on national television. The Israelis were on the ground at Waco. They were in the air and on the ground. The Russians were there. Remember, I've told everybody about this. The Israelis were running the planes up above, taking all the pictures, guys. The Israelis were running the ship. Does everybody understand that? So here's a foreign power with a bunch of other foreign powers killing Americans on the ground. Their logic was that this was going to be so, they made this terrorizing. That's why you see that event when they burned the place down, the tanks came in from one direction, they made sure they paraded the tanks in a column, and the two Chinook helicopters came down at point blank range for propaganda. fanning the flames of the fire. Guys, no pilot's gonna come near something like that. That was for image and propaganda. Shoot, you know what it did? Final nail in the cost of shit just went off. Everybody and everybody was there at that. The reason I bring this up is, I've seen an event like that since. So the Bundy Ranch was the best hit. The reason I keep mentioning the Bundy Ranch is because between Waco and the Bundy Ranch, there are other actions that we, you know, we kicked them back. You know, the, we had two years from the city bombing. have the effect that everybody is told through the, you know, even the idiots that repeat it. So that was a major screw up. Because of that, we, you know, everybody realized, you know, again, well, like you just said, well, how much more are we going to put up with? Well, they're coming. Fire the first shot, but by God, we will fire the last. At the same point right now, but there's nothing, the thing is, okay, well, let me ask you something. Stop, no, stop, stop, stop, stop. Let's back up. I understand your question, but let me ask you, what do you want me to shoot him over? No, I, no, listen, I just asked you the question, the next one. What do you want me to shoot them for? I'm serious, I'm ready to. What do you want me to shoot them for? What's our excuse? Understand that completely. But usually you see, but with actions. I agree, but now, now hold on now. Now we're going to go through the whole process here because you see, how did we get the bill of rights? How do we get all these instruments? See, we didn't have, see there's a core component here. In more than just the Bill of Rights, and again, are God-given common law rights or are God-given rights, the common sense process is what we need to defend. For 10 years before the American Revolution, people asked the same question. We had 10 years of doing exactly what we're seeing here, and I've seen more of it. We have longer than 10 years. Oh, yes. No, you're not. But my problem, see, here's the thing. Every time when they come out, People always ask the same question, well why are you doing that? Well they didn't do anything. Well they did. Oh no they did. In fact we're ready to pull the trigger on them. In fact we're probably going to any moment. Well you can't, you watch how many people who will tell you that they want their Bill of Rights and this and that and the other will immediately piss their pants. See so when you do this you have to create a cascading effect. Yes, first of all I don't doubt. And this, that and the others, we want our Bill of Rights says government, they don't dictate to us. They have their own. That's what we want. They're in the box we're not. That's how it's supposed to be. We're in the box. A lot of people, the way they've been taught, we're in the box. It's supposed to be in the nice square box and we keep it contained. I have a problem with, it's like I said, I was ready until they started the same garbage again. It's like, I don't need, well let me give you an example, I don't need to put 4,000 or 1,000 people on the ground when the people are in charge tell you, no, no, we're going to do this peacefully. Really? Yeah, they're just so inspired by our peacefulness that they're going to come in and shoot somebody in the truck. I'm serious, I had this conversation, it's like, okay, here's the idea. You want to put militia on the ground, we're a fighting force, not a conversational piece. I'm not a debate committee when I go into combat. The only debate is how quickly I'm going to shoot who because I've got a priority on how I'm going to kill you. It's a problem. Don't tell me I'm coming or showing up for something in half-asset. This is the same thing that happened. In fact, the Browns, the same thing happened with the Browns. The hard chargers came in that were hardcore, and they were not liked because, and of course also it turned out that the government employee, the federal agent, was in the ear of the people who were the ones that were being defended. And they didn't like the ones who were hardcore because that means there wouldn't be an out that they'd probably end up having to fight because that was the attitude everybody took, we're gonna end up having to fight. Oh, that doesn't sound good. There's gotta be something else we can do. See, the people who make the decision, when you say, well, let's go out and help those people in the Dakotas, who's gonna be in charge of that? Me or them? Or I should say, the people that are gonna bleed and die. Me who will bleed and die or these other people who will step sideways and let you die. the problem is with this. It's like, I understand, but we've been doing this for a long time. And everybody seems to think it's like they discovered this new event called the Freedom Movement, the Patriot Movement, because they're younger. Nobody ever figured this out before. But we've watched all these atrocities and abuses over and over and over and over and over and over again. I understand exactly what you're saying. How much more can you put up with? You've shaped me to the nerve, not you, them. So I understand, to me, it's like I said, you put a button in front of me and tell me this will kill up, you won't even have to tell me anymore. I pressed the button before you got it out. See how that works? If we had a situation of any kind that would be, for instance, offensive on their end, I say we execute them all. Is that what you want? I mean, if you want it, I'll give it to you. Because I'm at that point right now. I don't think this Trump thing is going to do us a damn bit of good. I'm just not being mean. I'm just going to tell you that, like I said this morning, all the other side has to do is leave, but you know what? They're not going to. You want peaceable? Well, everybody, in theory, even with the Walking Dead and all the other stuff that we've seen, they didn't push the die-bull button or we'd have Hillary Clinton right now. But if we had Hillary Clinton on the day of deception, we'd already have people in motion ready to fight a war by the second day. By the next that night even. Because everybody says, I told you so, here we go. Now, the thing is not to be deceived by the fact that Trump is in there. That's all I ask. But you know, there's people that already do that, excuse me, that BS. Well, we got Trump in there, we could, no, there's no change. Well, you just have to show up to demonstrate it, you know, like you support him. Don't show up with guns. Then don't show up looking militant. Then make sure you wear a suit and tie. I'm not talking about you, but I'm talking about you listening to all these other people, how they'll start to act. No, we still need though. What is it that won Trump his ground? It was the guerrilla warfare operation by a whole bunch of people and over, you know, gut stomping. There were people went out and just took them, you know, bit the bullet for all of the, you know, the atrocious lies and everything against them. It went out and got Trump in there. It's also the millions of people ready to shoot their ass, just like I'm talking about, that they were listening to because they weren't saying a word. I'm just expressing with a whole bunch of other people, one half of this population of white heterosexual males is already ready to do. There's a lot of black people, there's a lot of black people pissed too, there's a lot of Asian people that are pissed too that are common sense. Because you see, the only reason that I'm pointing out the white heterosexual males, because they do, because even the people up there like at that Dakota thing, I'm an evil white heterosexual male. Well then why should I show up? You see? Why? Watch, when I get pissed out, I'm gonna say thank you and oh by the way, bleed to death? No, I'm not. I'm gonna select my battles in such a way that I have what's called economy and force. I'm going there, I'll kick your ass, I'm gonna come off the other side with everybody that I can, then we'll find your buddies and kick their ass again. But I'm not gonna do it for my enemy, and I'm not gonna do it for Ethan, so he's halfway my enemy, because the ones that are halfway my enemy would join with my enemies, given the opportunity to do anything to them, and that's why I'm pissed. In that respect, but I'm not pissed at the point where I'll shout, shout, I'm just pissed at the point where it's pressed when I get this flavor for a thing, it works out. Because I do what I've been talking about for all of you to do for years. Use your subconscious and register things. It makes for sense. It doesn't mean we won't try to help where we can help, but we will. God, I can see that.