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His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution. to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from Tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. The Tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate. And your Christian values can't be taught according to this. You read about the current news in a regulated press. And you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize family farms and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children and their leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear? Be a slave. Both sons of the Republic arise. Take a stand. Defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land. Preserve our great Republic and each God-given right to torture freedom as Iowoki vanished in the midst for whence he came. His words were true, not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each God-given right, we only watch and tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep, what would be your answer? He called out from the grave. So the evening intelligence report. I'm Mark Cornke. And I'm Don Bechter. I want to jump right to this. I don't know if anybody's heard this yet. Hold on here. All seven of the people in the Oregon, all seven of the defendants in the Oregon case, like Hautari guys, everybody found not guilty just a few minutes ago. I'm going to play whatever I can live here, okay? Stop arguing. I mean, that's crazy. An attorney in the United States court is arguing in front of a judge, in front of the United States attorney, but he doesn't pass anybody, doesn't throw a piece of paper on the ground. And when he gets surrounded by at least a dozen federal agents, he puts his arms up in the air and says, what are you doing? Throw him to the ground. That's what this case is about. It's okay to say no to the federal government sometimes. That doesn't make you a criminal. It doesn't mean you don't love or respect this country. It means there are principles worth standing. Threw him to the ground. He'd rest out of the courtroom. Is he in jail now? He was arrested. We hope he'll be released today. Have you talked to him in Bundy? Didn't get a chance to talk to him. He saw the whole thing. But I'll tell you what he'd say about it. Say some things are worth mumpert. This isn't just about him and Bundy. This is about living in a day when all the struggles and trials we have as Americans, it's still gotta be okay to say no to the federal government. It's not disloyal or criminal to resist. That's what it's about. And if Marcus Mumford goes to jail, it's because Marcus Mumford believes in what he's doing. Not for people like Marcus Mumford. What does it say about the memory of LaVoy? Well, LaVoy knew this. LaVoy knew that sometimes you stand up and there's a price to pay. And let's hope you don't have to pay that price. You shouldn't have to pay the price Marcus Mumford just paid. You shouldn't have to pay the price Anna Bundy just paid. But if you have to pay a price, I think Americans all know that America... That's what makes it different. You know, I'll tell you, there are good federal marshals, there are good US judges, there are good people all around this. good people make bad choices and we've got a system to work that out and if you fight like hell it still works. Last name is... Oh, oh, oh, oh, it's a winning question. Rick, it's fun to watch. This is a live feed from... Hold on. Yeah, Joshua Horn. Yeah. It's kind of cool. Anyway, what's interesting is watching the leftists and their expressions of shock and whatever. No, the judge wasn't that great. Judges, in fact. Yeah, the only... Well, Wasted time, needless to say, as far as the people being attacked. We know that, but that was expected. What is interesting is what happened yesterday, and I think this turned the jury. The last couple of days, I think we did mention it yesterday, a Fed, a former federal employee started ranting and raving about how they all needed to make these people guilty. Apparently some people got rather agitated or also were kind of shocked. How could the prosecutor have let somebody like this on the jury? Well, it's real simple, guys. We've told everybody about this before. Well, this was kind of the last peg. There we go. There's a live feed going on. It's on 797. It's K-A-T-U news. It's live right now. It's a live computer or satellite feed that they're using. So it just froze. My... the... they may have figured they got what they were going to get. Pretty much the... it's weird how... it's like everything I've ever seen before. The leftist journalists are like in... in... in scum like, darn, we were supposed to crucify them today. I bought nails. I bought nails. And you can see, you can pick out in the whole crowd, like the different people. There's a pig, there's a rotten pig, there's another rotten pig, there's a pig there, oh yeah, there's a piece of spilt there too, yep, there you are. And a total difference between the countenance of the people who are human and the demon-possessed turds. And it's fascinating to watch over and over again. So for everybody again, just a heads up. Now this is interesting. Remember, we had one individual who was charged, it's one of the bodyguards, and he pled out and took a whole bunch of charges. But he got time served. However, is the lawyer going to run back in and unmake that deal, considering what happened with the jury? Well, I think he's too late on that one. Yup. Know what I mean? Apparently, despite what all the government did to basically piss in every direction you could and try to terrorize everybody and scare everybody, apparently the jury probably made up at least of enough people who weren't from the major metropolitan areas and in most cases were getting pretty well tired of what they've seen in government. Timing is everything. What made a difference with this, and I will say it's just like what happened with the Houtari case. Act of God, however you want to look at it. All of what's been happening with the federal government right now is what they had to have helped to work the jury. Hey, do you think Hillary will carry Oregon? This is a good read right there. It might not be an utter and total great grand poll or anything, but it's a pretty good read. Well, you know, and again, remember that the TURD that's in there, the POS that's in there right now is governor in reality. isn't there legitimately anyway. There's a challenge to what was going on with the creature getting in there in the first place. Now, there's the issue of the quadriplegic homosexual, Eskimo slash pedophile, promoting queer, whatever. That's who's there. That's what's in the capital. So you've got, like I said, we were tallying up the states yesterday. You know, the capital of Oregon is like Seattle Tacoma. It's enemy territory. But it's like all the rest of these parts of the country. It's a federal usurpation zone. The government pits are dropping everywhere out of the sky and that's where again these criminals gravitate. But when you get away from that, in the outlying areas, most everybody is completely reversed. And in fact, encapsulation of these particular, you know, POS sites would not be hard if everybody were to get their act here. It would be like a variation of the Boston siege if you had a Lexington and Concord. Because the only areas they have some outlying pods, just like the Brits had, you know, the regulars had outlying garrisons, I would point out that before the American War for Independence finally started though, the British reconsolidated everything pretty much as far as their critical main force into Boston. And originally they had been at Salem and Boston. As in Salem, Massachusetts, everybody was like, oh, they were there to burn the witches! Yeah, where they burned the witches. Say one was one of the other Garrison sites. There were several other smaller ones and at a given point they pulled themselves in. It's kind of like if things here to progressively escalate here you will see them suck in, not extend out. They'll start to close down and pull in the sites to consolidate manpower for firepower. That's what would happen. Go ahead, Galer, jump in there. Hey, you. This is Carl in Virginia. Let me see, man. You really called it on this. The way that they insert their own people in the jury and everything, and the way they conduct themselves, you really called it. I can't tell you how many times you've discussed whatever topic, and I'm kind of like, okay, that's an interesting take on it. Then six months, two years later or so, it's like, holy crap, it turned out exactly like Mark said. I'm not trying to brown those or anything, but I mean, do you feel something, it happens? Yeah, it's because again, the courts are not our courts. Number one, the only good thing about the way the jury selection scam runs is that you get to nick some of theirs and they get to nick yours, but you see, you only get so many. And then at a given point, whatever's left in the pool, it kind of gets walked in by each one that's represented. After you nicks so many of theirs and they nick so many of yours, It varies depending upon the level of court as far as how many. Sometimes it's 10, sometimes it's 12, sometimes it's 20. It's totally arbitrary by the way too. It's a court rule thing. In this case, you mean to say they didn't know this guy wasn't a Fed? He was banging the gong and what happened is a couple people who probably really aren't liking the way, like I said, timing is everything. Everybody's watching the WikiLeaks stuff. They don't have to listen to this case. All they have to do is look at all the other stuff the government's doing and how scurrilous it is. The other part about what probably drove the nail and the coffin nail in this case, if it was jury choice, was what the FBI director did going out in front of the nation with Hillary Clinton. One of the problems that they're going to have more and more is if you're going to take Hillary Clinton and tell me that she has done no wrong, don't drag anybody else into your federal court unless it's absolute, outright, horrific, slaughter murder. Because otherwise, piss on you. There are no rules. In a way, this is the closest thing to a variation on the early stages of jury nullification in the colonies of, say, Well, it went back actually decades, but the big window was starting in about 1770, 1771, and the emphasis was, again, jury nullification to protect people from being dragged off to another colony as prisoners, as indentured servants or property or whatever, as punishment. And that's really kind of like what you see here because not only did it, because for a change, this is something else that's critical. A lot of times, like what happened with the Waco chart, Waco case, there were Feds on the jury. We knew that. Everybody kept pointing it out. Of course, oh no, no, no, that came out in the wash. It's the same situation that happened here. They put a couple characters in and they threaten everybody. They strong arm, they pump up. Well, that's a bad thing in this right now because people are pissed at the regime. They're pissed at the system. They're pissed at the Feds. and I guarantee he started puffing up or trying to take charge and then started flapping his ass and somebody went right to the bay lift and said, hey, we've got a problem here. And that's how they ejected that high, that character is high end, but it was only as they started moving him out. Oh, by the way, he's a fed, a former fed. No, if he's a fed, former fed, he's not a former fed, he's a fed. And that's exactly what it turned out, is that the character is on the payroll. Hey, Mark. Go ahead, caller. Sorry, I switched gears here, but can I make a music request? Are we not on the air? No, I don't know. I'm hearing you. Can I make a music request for a... Oh, can you make... Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead. Yes, go ahead. I thought you were saying we're playing music on air, and so I wouldn't surprise me, considering what just happened. Go ahead. Yeah, a foggy dude by the young Dubliners. Oh, yes. Yeah, I mean, we've got a lot of parallels here. Those who don't know the story of that song, it's about the Irishmen who were drafted to fight in World War I so that some other country can be free when they were better off fighting for their own country. They're trying to do the same thing here, the Klimitsas are trying to get us into war with Russia. They're already lining that up, they're blaming all the WikiLeaks on Russian hacking and so forth. Which is all BS. In fact, if it were anything I would say would probably be in another direction with even our own intelligence agencies going, oh God, we've got to do something nobody has trust in us at all. It can be a number of things. Who cares? Information is accurate. I don't care who the hell it is. I don't care who the hell it is coming from. The old story, tell a conservative person a lie and they will get pissed. Tell a liberal the truth and they will hate you and get upset. That is where we are right now. The bottom line is the leftist slash liberals get caught in truth with all their BS. when they're tied down with truth they hate that and it's exactly what we're looking at right now here. This is a good thing, excuse me, the example here is the biggest thing they can do is the deflection on where did it come from, you know, the classic kill the messenger. Right. Yeah, the first thing you do is complain about, this is a basic rule in court, like I've tried to explain, like the thing about what you have with this jury and all this other stuff. The first rule if they can, they're not going to argue the facts, guys. The first rule is attack the individual, attack the messenger, try to muddy the water. That is the first rule in every... The last thing you do is argue facts. That's the first rule about prostitutes. They don't argue facts. The first rule is all drama and innuendo. And the same is true with all the rest of the dribble that... In fact, well, let's think about this. Aren't all these POSs we keep running into, aren't they lawyers? Of course, they're debarred lawyers. I guess I should add that. They hang with Bill a lot. What do you think about it? Well yeah, but Hillary, DeBard, Bill, DeBard, Bummer, DeBard, I think Michelle, all these characters have been pumped and bumped, you know what I mean? Which at one given point or other also been kicked off government jobs that, well, were really kind of just really float throughs. For example, Hillary with the Watergate hearings, you know? I mean come on, it's not hard to coast with and make brownie points and move up, but no, no, no, no, she had another agenda. They pissed off other people in the process and she got her butt fired, wow. That takes a little effort in gravy train Washington to be quite honest, especially when it's by your own people. See, it's nothing it was somebody else that fired you from another group because they had the power to do so, but that's not what happened, you see. It was your own fellow travelers that pumped her out. Yeah. That tells you a great deal right there. Okay. Hey Mark, go ahead, caller. Yes, this is Robin in the East Coast. Is there any place I can find that story online that you're aware of? Forgive me, as far as what just, it just cleared. I just happened to tap on it and they sent me a live feed. Hold on here, let me see if I can get it again. It is KATU News. That's K-A-T-U News, is where you might want to do the search. It's a live feed. They've got it, it's frozen. Now they're at 757 minutes into the track. Fox News Channel online has got a... The live feed where they actually have what I just played will probably be on the page for KATU News. In fact, hold on, I'm just clicking it right now. Let's see. Yes, it's Channel 2 KATU News out of... Well, hold on here. It looks like... Well, it's got to be Oregon. It's Portland. Yeah, there we go. Portland, as a matter of fact, they are still running a live feed there. The feed on the page I was on... has locked up, but they're still running a live constant feed, which is typically what they do, because if anybody comes out of the court, you know, you jump on it, guys. So the live feed, and now going back to the history of it, I don't know how you can, let's see if you can scroll back. On the live feed, I don't think you can, but they probably have an instant archive if you go through the page. And let me, I've got a cat paw right in front of the, let's see, what's the address here? Well, it's K-A-T-U News. K-K-K-K-K-K-K-K-K-K-K-K-K-Kilo Alpha Tango Union. It's K-A-T-U News. Channel 2. And... I'm trying to see the page, but I don't... it doesn't... It's not coming up. No, it is. Well, why are you looking for that? Let me run this quick little story head down. I got this buddy. He's got a couple of bulldogs. We call them American bulldogs. It's what pit bulls were bred from. American bulldogs, you guys, are like three times what a pit bull is. If you look at a pit bull, about 40 pounds. My buddy moved farther into the country. He lives down in the holler now, and he lets the dogs run. About two years ago, both of them came back with, you guys run with me on this, came back with a nose and a flank full of both of these dogs, full of porcupine quills. and they moaned and groaned and one of them almost lost its eye and had quills in its tongue and stuff. Oh boy. And he moaned and groaned and still has the cysts where you couldn't get all of it out or just a little... and you know he still lets his dog run and about two months later both of them came back with, you know where I'm going with this don't you, with just laced with You know what the problem is? I'll tell you what the problem is for those dogs. They can climb. Well, yeah, but the problem is they don't learn. And even when they get focused on the first person, they keep coming back. And now he doesn't let his dogs run because he can't afford the vet bills and he can't afford to sit there listening to his dogs moan and groan. But you know what? If they keep coming back, they don't know no better, you guys. That's my point here. They're gonna keep coming back. They're just gonna look at this like oh well. They're only gonna learn nothing from this. They're gonna be like those dogs and just try to get that porcupine and try to get that porcupine. He's just walking along minding his own business looking for acorns and antlers to eat. Well interestingly real quick on that note, whether somebody you know dogs climb. Let's see, wait a minute. Yes, matter of fact somebody just said yes the bunnies everybody was found all seven were found not guilty The idiot that did the the plea bargain and we've told everybody about this before too. They know since taking a plea bargain, okay? But as it is yeah, they did I hear the one did and now of course It's a day and two later a day or two later because he oh no it was yesterday He's feeling probably really stupid unless he was a government agent. He was just making the numbers You know because they do that too. They've done that before But usually they try to get one person to plea bargain so that they can try to lever the rest. And they use that as the boat anchor, you see. And in both cases, the Houtar case and this, it's the lawyers that do it. It's not the person. And this is what happened with the Houtar cases. The lawyer brought the guy's mom and dad in and did the cry routine. And as soon as he was betrayed by that stinking lawyer who didn't want the job. Then it turned around and had to run back in because while everybody else was found not guilty. Well the same is true here but I doubt that the lawyer is going to run back in. However, I do want to add something. What was being talked about, Mumford got into the attorney, Marcus Mumford, Aiman Bunney's attorney. Apparently as the verdict was being, Mumford got into a heated argument that ultimately led to him being led out of the courtroom in handcuffs. Yeah, but not before he was beat down, guys. They slammed him onto the ground. Of course, they're all pissed. The cops and the piglets, the fed pigs are all pissed. Why? Because these guys just beat them down, beat them down administratively. Now, my argument on that is that ain't happening, few and far between, but in this case, perfect timing. So whatever. Take it. Well, I'm going to say something else in a minute, but wouldn't you wait. Emmon Bundy's attorney Marcus Mumford arrested after stand-off trial at Verdict. Marcus Mumford, the lawyer of the Mahar National Wildlife Stand-off Leader, Emmon Bundy, was taken into custody Thursday afternoon shortly after. What the hell? Okay, I hate the way they write this stuff. They're terrible. Hello, Mark. Go ahead, caller. While I'm trying to read this, go ahead, please. Okay, very good. This bike down here in Arizona, I got about a about this about 20 minutes ago. There's also another source and I'm not Huffington Post. They reported on it not that long ago. So if people are looking for information, you know, sometimes we have to look at the alternative media, the left wing, if you will, but they're also reporting on it. But there's an election and everything. Things that I've done while you broke the stop of the hour. So then I went over here and I started calling my local radio talk shows and ask them if they had heard about it. I told them I was away from the radio but just to want to know if they had heard about it and they were going to, and they said no. And I said, well, I'm just kind of wondering, since you guys spent a lot of time to tell us how bad these people are, are you going to now spend an equal amount of time telling everybody that they found not guilty? And I would urge all the listeners sitting here now is one of the ways that we can hold the accountable by rubbing it in their faces because generally they're going to hope that nobody hears about it just like about them who found not guilty there's ill in them and saying hey why on this information. Well interestingly exactly the point I just did while you were talking I just hit it and shared in every other media we could one of the articles posting the announcement Now everybody needs to call in tonight, like right now, call in to all the other radio programs locally where you have a call in. Hey, by the way, yeah, football, blah blah blah, hey guys, did you hear about all seven of the guys in Oregon were found not guilty? In other words, call in no matter what it is and always do that. Guys, you always got to do the thumbs up. Well, you know, again, well, football. Hey, it's really great. Oh, yeah, those doppelganger dolphin wiener dogs, whatever they are. Yeah, it's really great. And by the way, hey, do you hear about all those guys in Oregon were found innocent. All the guys from the standoff in Oregon were found innocent. That's how you do it. And you have to do it just like that. You're rolling like you're so excited. And oh, yeah, boy, that was a great pass last night. And by the way, what about this? That's the way more people will hear and they don't want. You're absolutely right about this, Mike. It's like what happened with the Hautari case. They're real great at throwing everything else out there, but then all of a sudden, well, there were two, especially the backstabbers, which are all the media, when they started to realize things were going south and they already knew that the case was dead. They were, oh, well, we'll report a little more of the other information, but grudgingly, you see. So everybody needs to spread the word. Go ahead, jump in there, please. I'm sorry. No, I was just saying that that's what the deal is. And maybe, you know, in around about the way that this goes back into communications Tuesday, and you need to develop a booklet of the radio talk show hosts, whether it's Michael Savage or Laura Ingraham or Rush Limbaugh and everything. And sometimes these are hard to get into, but with persistence and professionalism, you can get by the screen and then you can get on the air. Now if you try to go over there, the old adage, you can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar. If you try to go in there with too much bravado, they're going to go, oh, well thanks for the call and hang up on you. But sometimes if we think about this, we're actually doing a job interview and we want to be professional about the information. But the whole idea is about having contact information in hand over instead of being on these people were. And now all of us need to report, I call these fear of what was going to lies our knowledge and our communication of it. And then, you know, I know you touched on it before, this enough BCs, 20 minutes before guilty. That's neither here, they're there. Whole deal is, and one of the thoughts that had come to me, it was the hunger scene, you've mentioned it already, but how did those people like timer and Buddha, et cetera, that thought that they were going to go out and out. See that's one of the things, the interesting thing though is the twist in the last couple of days because we had the blurb about the, and there was no real coverage in the news about that with the jurors, which by the way they were talking to everything else they could about how they were waiting for them to all be guilty etc. which they were. It's interesting watching the live feed here guys. Like I told you you can pick out the leftists that are all pissed because this didn't go the way the big plan was supposed to go. and you can always see this when you watch any of these events like this it's always the same routine over and over and over again and i think we got another caller so caller jump in there please i heard another voice a uh... dom still there uh... oh yeah there we go there was a way to move on uh... anyway a couple of things going on here right now the lawyer was what they did this is what they were explaining the lawyer was there and he was in a he was in a uh... yap back and forth and apparently was stealing his oats he wasn't getting tough, didn't physically get involved in anything, put his hands up even, and they stepped forward and slammed him to the ground. This is where the ring knockers, and like I told you guys, the Lodge Buddies, the ring knockers, and all these critters, this is how they operate, and how they consistently and repeatedly act, especially when they get pissed and they know they've lost ground. Now here's something... Here's the thing about it. You see if they've won, and they have, and they're not guilty, which the jury stated so, then all their property is going to be returned. Well, I'm going to tell you exactly what happened already. Their property was divvied up by the pigs in the property room with all the fed pigs who have stolen their property and taken it home. Yeah, but the big question remains to be asked. Files for the murder of LaVoy Pafinnekin against the police. that gets into the next half of the year. See, this would be the time for that to happen because like everything else, even up there, there's no discussion. And this was the mistake made with how things were operated up there in the first place, like I said. Okay, so this worked out only because, again, timing. The jury has just as pissed as the rest of the country like I've said. I think they had more to do with it than anything else. If they had been any other time, there had been more of a vacuum. But right now, everybody, guys, the lights are on. I don't care who you are, you can see what's going on with the regime. And then you look at this case, like any of these cases, because it's really, the other part about this, for anybody who gets in there in the jury, they're going to look at this as nothing but an extension of the Bundy Ranch case, period. That's how people are going to relate to it. Well, the Feds making a mistake on that when they were doing that and they're probably going to, they can't avoid talking about the very subjects they probably dragged up in this case in Oregon. Because the very things they dragged up are the subjects that are coming next with the Nevada trial. You see what I mean? In other words, well we're going to use this in the trial. And we're going to use this in the trial. Well this doesn't have anything to do with the trial. This has to do with Nevada. Well it doesn't have anything to do with it because it's only... and these guys are the same people and this is what... and so I haven't been there for the whole case but I'll guarantee you how it went. Now the problem they've got is this. Everything they did to open their face alienated the jury to the point and convinced the jury based upon, and I've always said this, upon what the prosecutors do, not the defense. But what the prosecutors do, and that's really, the prosecutors lost this. The defense didn't have to win it. The prosecutors lost it because I guarantee they were rabid. And by all the indications of the court watchers that were there, that's exactly what transpired. So they went rabid. They went stupid. They went crazy. Well guess what? Now they've got to go back to Nevada. And everything that they pumped into this case, they can't hide in that case. You see what I mean? In other words, the nemesis, the foreboding component here for them is if they couldn't do this here on another piece of real estate separate from private property, they aren't going to fare very well playing their game down there with Nevada. You see what it means? Defeat from the draws of victory. And it's been in the first seat in the it could have reversed this too because see what they were hoping for it I'll guarantee this is their strategy they could have a Horrific attack here and they would bloodbath that they that guy that was in there would have browbeat all the peasants because that's what they do They get two or three of the feds in there They at least have one other fellow traveler. Now they've got to watch this, you see, because that's what they usually will do, is if they can't keep the hardcore one in there, the other one or two that are the lead behinds will try to angle them towards, well, we've got to give the government something. We've got to give them something. We've got to find them guilty on something. And it's like, nah. Like I've said, the best way to do this, you can't say jury nullification. You can't. Don't say it ever. What you do though is when you're sitting there in the jury, you know, the prosecutor convinced me that these people are all innocent. Now, whatever they try to come up with, no, no, no, no, I listened to the case and everything that they said convinced me, the prosecutor, I didn't even have to listen to the defense, everything that the prosecution said convinced me that all these people are innocent. There's nothing they can come back with. There's no way they can try to do the, well what about this, no, no, I listen to all of that. In fact, the more you talk about it, the more it convinces me they're innocent. Now then they're going to try to get in a conversation about jury nullification because they want to try and get you kicked off like they, you know, like in reverse. The good people got the fed pigs kicked off, okay, because the fed rat spies were in there, guys. They were in there until yesterday. Okay, and supposedly there's going to be an investigation on that. Wait a minute, hold on. I believe that. Yeah, you know what? They're real good about, wait a minute, they don't do anything to their own. Just ask that fox where the chicken went. I mean, the FBI guy was the Hillary Clinton. I mean, the fox where the chicken went. Yeah. So here's the thing, is now we've got the next step. I don't know if they're going to, you see, the one thing you're going to definitely try to do is hold them over for Nevada. but the only ones they can hold over for Nevada, which by the way it's going to be hard even saying that they would be a flight risk, you know what I mean? Because, no, if you go back to Nevada, they're going right back to their ranch. Oh no, I'm not leaving the ranch. Of course I would dig the guns up and explain to them if they do come back on the property we're going to shoot. But it'd be like, no, we're not going anywhere. We just won this case and it's obvious we're going to win the one down in Nevada. So yeah, I think you should be able to let us out. I don't see a problem with that. Why would you worry about any conditions? We just kick their teeth in here. You see, that's the problem. Some of them they can't keep anyway because they warn at both locations. So the problem they've got is one way or another, they're going to have to release some of who they have now. These people are not all from the Nevada case, as far as I know, at least a couple are not. I know, but the Bundy's are. The one thinner guy that's there, I recognize, he was in Nevada, so they'll probably try to slide him sideways just to remember if they can hold you, they're punishing you. They're stealing your life's time. That's the whole idea. Oh, you were found innocent. Well, can you give me that time back? No. See, there's the problem with this. They shouldn't be going through this in the first place. So all of that is stolen time. That's why I personally believe we need an American war for independence. We need a revolution. We really do. You can call it whatever you want. We need a reconformation of our liberty because this should not be happening. Oh yeah, we got in the court and everything. But every chance they can, they're mechanically torturing these people to the point of physically damaging them. And many of these injuries will never heal, which is why my personal attitude as far as punishment for any pig that does that is that you should have a bracket or a frame in place and it should be so that you can walk up with a pipe and wherever the injury is that they do to you, you should be able to do it to them and make sure it's just as permanent. Oh Mark, that's it, what, what? No money's going to fix it. You can't get time back either. So when they take time and then you're found innocent, doesn't that mean that the other person who wasted your lifetime shouldn't their life be taken in the same way? Their time? That's what the Bible says, an eye for an eye or a tooth for a tooth. Yep. And in this case, see this is something that, this is why we need a war. This is why we made mistakes only in that we did not solidify certain things that should have been done and the ring knockers loved that. If you orchestrate and perpetrate an action like this, all the individuals who participated in it and orchestrated it and continued with it, all served the same equal amount of lost time behind the wire. This is because all of this is Admiralty Law. This is not American Constitutional Law. You are dealing with Admiralty Law. And this is something that I wholeheartedly believe it's the only way that you can fix this now because there's no honor amongst these turds. They do this all the time. Taking of their property needs to be done if they injure. Like, let's point out, okay, the one Bundy, remember they were taking him to court? Then they, oh, they would, they said, get out of your cell, we're going to court. There was no court date. When they got him on the stairway handcuffed, they shoved him down the stairs and kicked him. They shoved him down the stairs with the leg irons. Guys, you know you have no... it's like a log falling over. That's what you're like. You know what should be done to them? They should be handcuffed, taken to the top 10th floor, and they should be pushed down every flight of stairs until they get to the bottom. Each one that did... anyone that was there that participated in that should be treated and acted upon the exact same way. That is not wrong. Whether you were the one that actually kicked him or you were part of the group here, whether you robbed the bank or you drove the getaway car, you were really guilty. They all knew that it was going to happen because he did not have a court date. All the characters that took him into that stairwell took him there to try and kill him. You see how that works? Yeah, they're sadistic bastards and this is the only thing that's going to put the kibosh to this, guys. That's that may you know what if you want to come out and you want to shoot somebody on the street because you were just you know Or beat somebody down you would put you in a rack give me a lead pipe and get for that How's that? That's a that's a kind of a vague thing so we could count on a 10% variance You know 10% plus or minus and maybe a 20% variance so if if you have a limp You would at least want to impart that limp and maybe a bit more just to make certain he gets all of what you got. Yeah, and here's the one thing I keep reminding people. This is like the Hammonds, okay? Guys, when you're in prison, you're at war. Unless you don't understand that. I've tried to emphasize this many, many times. When you're in prison, you're at war. It's 24-7. Guy will come in at night, you try to get into your cell, guy will stick a shiv right in your ear. You know what one of the most common tricks in the higher levels is whenever you're moving around you take a t-shirt, you roll it up, you wrap it around your head, you take the ear warmers at the issue or the stocking cap and you put it over that so you protect your ears so you can't get anything stuck in them. But especially the guys, and the guys that have been long and long and long haul, do it every night. It's one of the things you do every night before you go to bed. Because you don't know if the person that's in the cell with you, if you're in a middle security, you don't know if that person has been bought now. If you're lucky, you bribe the guard, he bribed the guard to get somebody that is like mine. You don't betray each other, okay? But most of the time, you're prepped because whoever is in the cell with you and they rotate people intentionally to cause this problem. They'll put a person in there whose job it is to try and come in and kill you. And you have to beat on them for days on end. I spent three days doing that. You fight for 72 hours. You try that. You don't go to sleep. And you don't go to eat. When they break lock, you can't leave. You know how that works? And you keep fighting. And you don't stop fighting. In fact, the only thing is you hear the guards will intentionally jiggle the keys hoping you'll ask to be pulled to go to the hole. Because you see, what you do is you demand to be locked, you know, go to top lock. They're figuring what they're going to do is either get you killed or put you at a higher security level because you refuse to lock down where you are. So what they do is they pull you there, they punish you, and they put you up at a higher security level where they put you with a person that's even worse. So you're better off fighting where you are. So you go for about, oh the first day, you got to make sure you get some good elbow and wrist punches in and preferably something's going to bunch an eye up real bad for them because that way they can't see. They also don't want to leave then either and try to collect a weapon or something. because they don't want the guards. You see, if the guards, if they go out in the public and you get seen with an injury, you will be putting the hole. There's no explain, it doesn't matter if you were defending yourself, I've had to stitch people up, I've had to tape people up because if you don't and make it hide, it doesn't make any difference what you use for an explanation, you're in a hole. All your stuff gets gone through, all your stuff gets ransacked, they break half of what you have, they stuff it all in your bag or stuff it in your footlocker, they take you to the security level up somewhere halfway across the state and then they put you in a worse place. So you learn real quick, fight. It kind of ties in with what we talked about the other day when Don asked me to come up about some of these people that, you know, said this and said that about the refuge and about what was going on and on, you know, that these people said this against those people and this was said about San Philean, Buddha, and Mark McCauley, and this shed the whole new light on it. Is there any information out there that actually these people had actually testified during these court proceedings or what was the evidence that was really presented? Well, and again, here's the thing. Now, see, here's the problem. You got the pregnant paws, everybody doing the... Well, it was... They should not have done it the way they did. I'm sorry. I'm never going to go or agree with what they did because of the problems that it created logistically and the problems it created with...