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You don't need to worry about having a military surplus store in your area because MaineMilitary.com is the only store you'll ever need, all from the comfort of your computer. Visit them online today at MaineMilitary.com. That's Maine, like the state, Military.com. I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walking through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, We fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught. According to this, you read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seasonally farm and keep our country. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children have been leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear of both sons of the republic? Take a stand. Defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land. Preserve our great republic and eat God given right. Freedom burning bright. As I awoke he'd vanished in the mist for when his words were true. I'm free. But we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each God given right. We only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer? He called out from the grave. west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. Good afternoon to the Aleutians, the Bering Straits, the Northern Marshals and Marianas. And it's been a very beautiful but little chillier day today. Clear mixed cloud cover but broken with sunlight constantly. It has been a pretty fall day. It's just that simple. Got a few things taken care of in preparation for this upcoming week. Here it is Monday. time to get everything done we want but we're working on it. We're always going to run out of time every day, over schedule, and is the 24th of October. It is the 8th year of open Fabian socialist, Soviet socialist occupation of America with a K. 2016, old earth calendar. 2016, year of battle. Do we have done with this conversation we've been having with different people today? And it's difficult, it's like they're declaring Hillary the winner! But we haven't had an election yet. Oh, sure we have. I'm sure that all the ring knockers got together, sacrificed some child that they've been pedophiling on, and, you know, read the entrails, and amazingly enough, seeing the future, as they say. But that's what you can do with a dive-old machine, and when you've got rats and punks that are just stuffing the ballot boxes left and right, ballots and well let's see every cemetery in the United States voting every grave marker voting no matter what what century voting Democrat of course gee what a surprise who would have thunk that as it is again that's not a surprise the important thing is the surprise we're gonna be giving them when they decide to try and do stupid there on the other end and you know they are the big conversation of course get the guns get the guns get the guns they're already beating the drum on this in preparation for whatever the big plan is so we're gonna have to give them a big plan right back in fact we're just give them a big well boop to the head quick here before we forget and again it is the beginning of the week work week now here for everybody of course the end of the workday Don't forget guys, we have the end of the year drawing coming up. 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Most of you sure already got new surprises. I think everybody's happy. I think we still got our English. We have to get verification with our British listener for the shirt, although I think we just had a discussion with him. We're just going to take care of that and that will be squared away. There's a number of ways we can do that. You'll be happy when you get your package at the other end. And again, we should have a number of surprise boxes. All of them will be unique and one of a kind. And no two will be the same, but each one will have lots of good stuff in it. Really cool things. So we'll do it again to continue to keep up the eyes from that action and then continue from there. Just looking real quick, do we have Dom with us? I don't want to just overrun because I know Dom might be waiting in the wings and Dom's not. Okay, very good. He's not muted up and let's see, there was one other thing here too. Yeah, you know what, of course, this is another phone from the trenches, worldreport.com. We rock well. Bundy prosecutors admit that undercover informants outnumbered defendants in recent trial. For the past six weeks, Oregonians have been treated to a political trial of the Mahar 7, Emmon Bundy, Ryan Bundy, Shawna Cox, Jeff Banta, David Fry, Neil Wimpler, and Ken Bedenbach. Let's see, does it have a ringside seat at the trial? Now hold on here. This is by Roger I. Rhodes. OK, lurocwell.com. Roger I. Roots. J.D. PhD. J.D. comma J.D. D. OK, I'm going to flick that one out. J.D. and comma PhD. OK, well. Anyway, the original Blue Rockwell Report is posted from the trenches, worldreport.com. It's a repost, one of our friends, of course, if you go down the scroll. That's why we have this, Blue Rockwell, or was it, you know, again, okay, there we go. It was Roger I. Roots, R-O-O-T-S. This was posted on October 24th, 2016, so it's fresh off the digital press, as they say. I was privileged to have a ringside seat at the trial as a volunteer researcher and paralegal for Ryan Bundy, who represents himself at the trial. As a right-case word, the jury is out considering what the defense conspired to prevent the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service or Bureau of Land Management officers from performing their duties at the Mohar National Wildlife Refuge In rural eastern Oregon, the Bundy brothers and other dependents are alleged to have participated in an armed standoff occupation of the refuge during January 2016 while protesting the unconstitutional occupation of the federal government itself over the refuge and other public lands. Okay. Trial was revealed, has revealed, an outstanding, brave, new world of modern surveillance and surreptitious law enforcement techniques. Drones flew over. Why would you be surprised? Oh, wow. R.C. Toys flew over and recorded much of what went on. FBI agents captured and monitored every phone number connected between every participant. Search warrant, and well guys, it's in the middle of B.F.E. If you were using cell phones, what have we told everybody? This is not any surprise. The Bundy Ranch stand up for the cows was exactly the same as we told everybody. Gee, the system was constantly overloaded. Why? Number one, there's only so many nodes out in the middle of nowhere and so whatever they do have you set up a prioritized node and or you take and use a cell phone towers what they were meant as rats by towers and you're picking up whatever is in the cell phone system. When especially it's in the middle of nowhere and it's not like they have to pick sort. Okay, you're out in the middle of nowhere. The bears don't have cell phones. Bambi doesn't have cell phones. So the limited number of people having those two-way radios, oh we call them cell phones, that just makes you feel like you're using a telephone. But it's not a telephone, it's a radio transceiver. Of course everybody can listen to the 800 meg and 900 meg signals if they want to. It's purely a matter of how much money you have. In fact, you don't even have much money. Just a little heads up, we were doing this 30 years ago, 20 years ago, 10 years ago with off-the-shelf technology and listening to all the bat faggots and all the little rats of the gun shows that were playing, you know, Junior G-Man bat faggot trying to make rally points to get rid of the competition on the other tables at the gun shows. Oh, in fact, we can sit right there and go, yeah, well listen, see that? Okay, who's got a cell phone? Oh, that guy right there has got a cell phone to his face. Oh, he's complaining about the other guy that's his competition. And meanwhile, you know, walking right by him or smiling and waving while he's busy talking to the backpack that's on the cell phone. Just trying to backstab Monkey Poke because he wants more business and that guy's getting more business than he is. Okay. Outside the refuge, FBI, Oregon State Police and other law enforcement agencies swarmed over the countryside. SWARM! Government snipers appeared on local rooftops. Paracades, Zimbabweer were erected to protect the school and courthouse from alleged militia danger. Well, and why the schoolhouse? Who cares about the schoolhouse? Nobody wants to do anything in school. Government does. Government attacks schools. Government attacks churches. Government bombs schools. And government attacks and bombs churches. And as far as the courthouse goes, well, again, not much there of value. But of course, for the uneducated, it's like none of these are really viable objectives or useful. Undercover FBI agents dressed as redneck militia members roam through local stores and menace the streets. Misunderstanding and outright lies about owning gold. Wait a minute, that has nothing to do with this article. Money was spent at such an extravagant pace that one professional auditor told me that the dollar amounts should have themselves triggered a separate criminal investigation. The feds have publicly claimed that the 41-day occupation caused at least 6.9 million in damages. Prostitutors objected, however, to every request to examine such claims. You're relevant, said the prostitute. Obviously. Well, what money in the middle of B.F.E.s? Okay. caused at least 6.9 million in damages. Now I want you to think about that for a minute. This is a stagnant, piss-willy, dot-on-the-map location that does little or nothing, especially in the winter months. And this is a classic example of the toadies in government stacking and racking BS billing to begin with. Let's see, they'll be of course using the numbers for dollar claims for damage and restitution. Let's see if there's any defendants are convicted. Overall, significantly the prosecution's most damning evidence collapsed at the end of the trial when it was revealed that the man who ran a malicious shooting range at the Mulhar Refuge was himself an undercover agent. Through the hard work of defense lawyers, John Kilman was identified as a paid, reimbursed, he said, informant who traveled to do the occupation at the behest of the government in a beat-up pickup truck to lead the occupiers in combat safety training. Kilman had even trained defendant Jeff Banda to stop cars and pull out their drivers at gunpoint, etc., etc. So, we must, we must. Okay, anyway, whoa. You have got to be kidding. What a horrible choice. Anyway, read the story. It's from the Trenches World Report dot com. Much gnashing of teeth running of hair. It's written by a paper pusher. What can I say? Oh, the horns! Feudal resist! Blah, blah, blah. Please, I have to explain. You know, there's a flavor and angle. The characters that we have that are in the administrative end of our efforts, not all, but a whole bunch of them are just Weezeroids. It's just, it's feudal resist and they were just so many and it was just overwhelming and I read that article, I just realized I need to throw my hands up in the air and forget. I just, you might as well forget it. I'm just brain fire. I'm doomed. We're all doomed. We're all gonna die. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Only if we have that magic super pen we get in the court there and boy that'll be so awe inspired they'll listen to everything we have to, no they don't. But anyway, that's the other half of the, hey you wanna talk about doomed? Anyway, uh... after reading that it's like... where'd he go? I read that, I get the feeling of course, well... where'd he go? What should I do? Anyway, uh, let's go on to other things by the way, and as a matter of fact, I know we've got a couple of requests. It has been one of those days where just a lot of tedious, you know, end of what it is we already started here over the weekend, It travels right into Monday. Really, Monday is like the other day of the weekend, but everybody else is working and you're working and doing the exact same stuff you were planning on doing anyway. But it never slowed down through Friday, Saturday, Sunday. So it's like, it's not a four-day weekend. It's a four-day work end. You know what I mean? I'm thinking about this, like, what do these other people do that they actually can do the Weezer when there's so much that can be done? And they do the piss-whilly routine where they're going to be wearing hand-drawn attire. Okay, well, we were kind of a discussion about the whole idea about how to do this in the first place, what needed to be done. So, we're going to organize it. What needed to be done won't be even discussed, but even in 2029, it will all be doom, doom, doom, and doom, and we're doomed, and we're all going to die, and we're doomed, and... What are you doing in the Patriot Movement? Well you're not. You're really just kind of as one of the pencil, you know, the geek pencil pusher kinds. I'm gonna say geek, that's an insult to geek. Geek's server purpose. Anyway, I go listen to the Infowars, I can do that. It'll be just about the same kind of, you know, weasel routine. Oh, we're gonna die. I can tell you some technical information, but we're all gonna die otherwise. Go ahead, call her, jump in there please. Hey, this is Carl in Virginia. Hey, have you heard of these military guys who are getting screwed out of their, their colossus? I saw that, yeah, I had a chance to get, what it was is an entire, sounds like the, this is the same Department of Defense that has 6.9 trillion dollars that somebody has stolen and ran over to Israel with, right? And you're worried about this willing $10,000 and $12,000 bonuses to Guardsmen who should have received them. And they're not going to pull off. They're saying here we are eight years after the fact. Well, we made a clerical error and now you've got to pay it back with interest. Yeah, this is ridiculous. No wonder nobody trusts anything the government says anymore, not even the military, because you go out of your way, Iraq can get your arm or legs blown off and they're still going Yes, here's how it works. You go over there, you get your arm blown off, you're being screwed by the VA every chance you can, and then you get another bill in the mail. Hey, and by the way, remember all those guys? You all got those bonuses that we all promised? Everybody had set up? Oh, that was a technical boo-boo error. You know what it comes down to is they had them over there to get shot? And some pencil pusher, some oi boy, some piece of gutter trash, kosher piece of filth that's trying to milk more money out of all the peasants, saw that somebody either didn't fill in a certain form or they may have been off by, they'll argue that they were off by so many hours of getting the full six month, eight month, nine month, 12 month, three month, whatever the requirement was for qualification. And there, again, it's the old Sadducees and Pharisees thing, and I'll guarantee it, some stinking punk who never risked his life ever in all the time he's ever been in service, if he was even in the service, if he is even in service now. And this piece of trash, of course, they're going through, we can screw all these guys over now! And it's like, I watch this happen after Vietnam the same way. I mean, the guys, this is all rehash. This is like while they're watching a uh... uh... uh... could well watching a coup listening to a cassette or watching it on real to real you know i mean seriously but they're paying it back though and that's that's what it was it is it you know you can hear the stories uh... yet but it gets it gets true but there's like we had to check out a mortgage on his home in order to pay it back which means he already paid it back right he was so it's like it's quite that these military guys are going out of the way above and beyond to hurry up and pay the cover back It's a lemming effect. You've got people who don't have any free thought processes left, the public fool system condition them, instead of rallying together and then getting their act together here, all these lemmings. It's really how they are. It used to be it would make sense, veterans, would stick together, but there's been a plan to make sure that doesn't happen and won't happen. I just have for quite some time. The system will take care of you until the system then turns around and screws you like in this case. The only reason that Agent Orange was found out about it wasn't because of any government organization. It was the veterans talking to each other and communicating with each other, and eventually everybody found out what was going on. Gulf War illness. Once we had an idea of what we were seeing with the guys coming back, well because we had an experience with Agent Orange, we could tag real quick what was going on with Gulf War illness. It was just trying to figure out what it was that was killing them. But it was killing them faster and in larger numbers. So the latest batch are the me, myself and I, or I'm all on my own and oh god don't organize because people will record things and you'll be spied upon and there'll be drones flying overhead. Kind of like the whole thing you see with this. I just why I didn't read the article. I started flitting through it and it's like oh blah blah and blah blah blah and blah blah blah. And it's futile resist. And everybody is going to be, and it's like, what happens is, this bleeds over into all of these other operations with people like this, and they just roll over. They should be fighting it tooth and nail. Oh, we're going to talk to our congressman. Yeah, like McElaim, who when everybody had the Asian orange problem. He kept saying, well, next year, just don't make any waves and don't get in everybody's face next year. And then it was next year, and then it was next year. Next year we'll do something, but don't get uppity. Don't get excited. Don't get confrontational. And you know what? They played them out for 20 years and more like that, guys. Went from one year to two to five to 10. And McLean was right in the middle of that. And sure enough, when it came around to Gulf War illness, that piece of trash did the same thing. And these people, there's two kinds that I guess, check anything else we're seeing in this country. There's two kinds, there's the lending effect and then there's people who will, I don't want to make any waves because, oh no, you're just complaining now about how you're going to be out on your ear because you can't make any payments and you're going to lose all this money and it's thousands of people. And what it comes down to is the units, what it is, it was a unit rotation thing, I'll guarantee it. and they all qualified for it and then some pencil pusher looked at the forms and said, oh we can screw them this way. We got to look at other ways we can milk the system for money. How can we screw the troops? And that is how these characters operate. I've watched it personally when I was in there. I was at Division and also worked as a rotating inspector all over the Midwest inside the United States, inside CONAS. and you deal with these political hacks and you realize these son of a buggers are just total pukes and that's what you're dealing with, I guarantee it. Some oi boy, pencil pushing piece of trash who hates America. He's probably a quadriplegic homosexual, Eskimo pedophile, queer, you know, on top of everything else and wears rainbow clothing and cross dresses every day and that's the person that's making brownie points with his fellow Hate America crew to do this to these troops. That's why I said we need a revolution, we need a war for independence. It's not going to do anything. And even then, you know, they did this right from the get-go. After the war for independence, all the men who signed up and bled for years on end, they didn't just have one tour, there was no place to go. A lot of these guys stayed in the war. Either the war got them or they made it. But they just got regular and minimal pay. But they got paid in continentals. And the continentals, they weren't worth less than 3 cents on the dollar. And all of a sudden somebody said, hey, I'll give you a nickel on the dollar. And they're like, oh, I almost double what I'd get otherwise. Well, who was it that was doing that? These pencil pushing geek pieces of, again, forgive me, geeks are cool. a pencil pushing piece of gutter trash banker who knew that the government was going to give everybody a hundred percent on their continentals but only if it was the only boy bankers that turned them in so guess what the bankers turned around the speculators bought up all the continentals and screwed all the troops Mark, where are the men in the office floor in the military? How come there's not some general saying, you know what, no, you're not doing that to my soldiers in the Marines? You've had eight years of hard communism, that's the problem. Remember that you've already seen what they're doing. The guys that were, the people that they fired, okay, well think about this, the people that they fired were not Academy, mostly. A lot of the people that they fire are people that typically are career. They could be from an academy, like West Point or Annapolis. They could be from ROTC. They could be when they first started out. They could be OCS. But the thing is that usually if they're career, a lot of them came up through the ranks and started out as regular soldiers. And then got into the officer corps in one form or another and then from there, those are usually the best officers you get. The ones out of the academy, typically, of course, are going to watch out for each other and piss on the rest of you. And I know there's two different worlds in the officer corps. The guy that's going to be a good officer, typically, is a man who started out as an enlisted man, got a commission, gets out there, and is genuine. He knows how the troops work. He knows what it is that happens at the ground pounder, and again, the task in. And he does a pretty good job of managing, and he'll actually fight for his troops. but those guys were all being fired by the panty waste and by the Rainbow Bright Queer Crew. This is why... That's a pretty good illustration of why we can't count on the military helping us out in the revolution. Right, well it's not so much if the individuals are pissed. See, what they're... that one here is this half-assed routine. And it's like the Oregon thing didn't help. It didn't help the situation, okay? Because on the one hand, just like I said, this is the one thing I will say, like I said from the get go, I haven't changed my position. There was no real effective strategy going in and there was no exit strategy for going out. And even if we did discuss it, or whoever I did discuss it, nobody listened to operational security ideas. There was some super invisible force field up that nobody else knew about and it didn't work the way it was planned or the way everybody apparently perceived it was going to work. and a lot of people that are watching that are going, wow, what a cluster screw. There are so many things that could have done. See, people are wanting to fight. They just want to fight half-assed. That's the problem. They are tired. Everybody is weary of that. It's like now they're talking like, oh no, it was an occupation. It wasn't an arm standoff or whatever. Well, life from the get-go. What was the government going to call it? I don't give a squat if you came in there bare-ass naked. And you had a lollipop in one hand, the candy cane in the other, you would have been armed and you would have been dangerous and you would have been tactically clothed for, again, deception and blah, blah, blah, and whatever angle they would have come up with, then it would have been exactly the same end result you're seeing right now with all the garbage he did. If you're like the other way around, if it was black lives matter and looting and throwing multi-facto, the police cars, well, they're just protesting. Yeah, the government would do nothing about them and the Fed did nothing to prosecute or attack any of them. And what little they did was all on the absolute low end, not again planned conspiracy to commit acts of terrorism. It was, yeah, well they were just protesting a little more aggressively. Oh, okay, while they were rioting and while they looted this store and this store and this store and systematically, remember we covered this. systematically assaulted stores and hit them like it was a military operation. Not the random quickie mart routine, but like the big stores, they were hit and that was covered by the cops. Remember, we were playing the dispatch at night with the live coverage. That was a timed, combined, plastic military operation. Real. They went into the cops The cops couldn't do anything, they were outnumbered, overwhelmed, and they knew it. Meanwhile, the feds and the state police pigs stood down the road and did nothing to help. What ever happened to the Texas Ranger style riot control? One riot, one Ranger. Well, first of all, they stopped using the roundhouse kick for everything that they do. Remember that? The Chuck Norris roundhouse kick. You've got to have that in there one way or another. If not, then you're just not squirt away for dealing with a riot. That's the way for the end. Well, the thing about it is again, see this whole situation, the military people are tired of what's going on. A lot of people are common sense. There's many, many, many people out there, both prior service, former service personnel. And people that are in there, they're talking to each other. It's just like what happened back in the early 80s. We were a breath away from revolution. It's just you in fact it was mildly talked about when you hear about Rex 84 understand that everybody understood We're at that point right now again where everybody's everybody is armed to the teeth and not only that but if we take a weapon system over guys we built them There's no weapon system. They have we can't run if we take it from them We use it on them fire a fire if you don't don't hesitate to fire you fire and forget in other words burn burn up the animal Because, you know, it's like, well, we'll use it, well, when you burn up the ammo, you just fire, you put so much firepower in whatever you face, you capture a weapon, you turn it around, because you know you caught it where it's secure, then you turn around, you dump everything you got until you run out of everything and you run out of fuel, and then you burn it yourself. See, that's the part they don't, that's what para-conventional is all about. And they really don't understand that part. Well, we're going to use this, or we're going to trick them with that, or right now, they won't be a trickery, just turn around and move them up. If you got it right now, use it or lose it. That's what's gonna be the rule. Use it. It's like, well, what are you gonna do? Fire the drink? Are you gonna pull the drink? Yep. Matter of fact, no. Fire one. Fire everything. Fire everything up. Fire, fire, fire. What are you gonna do? Threaten? No, I'm not threatening. Goodbye, you're dead. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. Yeah, no, little, little dramatic dialogue in there. No, there won't be. That's, yeah, see, that's the thing we gotta, you know, it's like, well, what are you gonna do? Uh, this. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, And whoever the smart ass was that was opening his face, he's the first one that dies. You know, the Billy Badass punk-up that's usually gonna be all puffed up in this 50 year old blackie, the first one that dies. And he dies bad too, so everybody can see it. But along with the rest of whatever else is in front of you, cause you might as well go for it, it's the old story, use it or lose it. See, we're now, we already, whoever realizes, and this is where you guys all get the right mindset, whoever realizes that you're really at war, wins. You see how that works? The sooner everybody understands we are going into a war, the sooner you will realize that whoever just gets into the business, fastest, soonest versus, wins. to fight, you fight all out. Again, you bought that million rounds of ammunition for a reason. Let me give you an example of something that I had even pointed out about collapsing the tent at the Bundy Ranch thing. If something were to happen, you know, like late in the game, let's say that they won, then everybody got casual. And I talked to them there about this, different people, at least a dozen. It's like the standoff in Oregon. Okay, so people kept leaving all their ammunition and guns and leaving the site. Now, what's the one thing that they really, really wanted to use? If you knew that you were just gonna surrender, there's a handful of you left, and you're gonna finally give up the ghost. Disassemble every stinking weapon you're not gonna use or that you can't use. Disassemble them and throw them to the wind, down vent pipes, everywhere you can. So there's not that gun to grab. Ammunition, burn it! Have a popcorn fest. Step back, make a little pit. You had to dig and ditch the ditcher there. and destroy everything, just like a military unit would normally do. When the Japanese took over Corigador, there wasn't a whole lot of anything that was working. If they had ammunition left, which they didn't have very much, that's why they surrendered, they destroyed it. The Japanese couldn't use the guns because they threw away the breaches. In many cases, the troops, which they don't talk about, disassembled the weapon systems and threw them out into the jungle and off into the ocean and in every direction they could. so the Japanese had to use their own because yours wasn't there to play with. So if you're going to evacuate and again, don't leave a piece connected guys. Take the stocks, throw them on the fire. Take them small parts, throw them in every direction off in the middle of nowhere. Just take and have a toss fest. Why? Well, they might go out there with a metal detector and find it. But you know what? After the fact, all it's going to do is be a pile of ruin and wreckage. If I had a torch, there probably was a torch on site. I've taken an oxyacetylene torch and fragged every receiver and every barrel. Yeah, I'm gonna surrender it. I'll be out of there. I'm gonna keep talking. Yep, I'm coming out. Yeah, I'm gonna push it. What's that sound in the background? Oh, that's just me warming stuff up. I would get a little cold here. And meanwhile, pop, pop, pop, pop, at the very least, just spread everything out. If you can't burn it, bust it out, hit it with a hammer, and toss it, but break it apart. Break the weapon down. Leave nothing for them. Tell them, well we're going to bring this into the courtroom. No you're not, because there isn't going to be anything left in any one piece. As far as weapons, systems and equipment, don't let them capture anything. Even burn your gear. Why? Well they don't have any trophies to take home. Yeah, the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... the... Well, you mean the one with the Indians and the anti-tank? Yeah, that was a classic. Before they turned themselves in and they thought they burned all their stuff, getting it quitted. Well, the thing is, if you remember how that was, you had the Citgo station. Remember that image of the... They called the military in. They called the Canadian military in. And it was their equivalent to our... It was a cabin, the M113. They had a bunch of APCs up front. and of course somebody pulled out some of the heavy guns and they had an excellent defense in depth they were dug in and entrenched well and uh... oh no wait now you're talking about the 93 I'm talking about the 80 what was it 86 87 86 87 the 93 that was yeah the Mohawk that was the border dispute they had a bulldozer about the heaviest equipment they had but they used it to you know good advantage they built and created fortifications. Right, and when the Canadians came in they knocked out the lead APC which backed everybody off. That was in the one ag, but that's not the one you're thinking of. This was another one that took place beforehand, before this, in contested lands in the Ontario Peninsula. And what's interesting about it is again when the army came in, when they finally, what the native population, what the Indian population is, they backed out of their positions and disappeared into the fog. They extracted themselves perfectly from the defensive network they'd set up. And the Canadian military officer said, you know, if we'd had to fight, we would not probably have gotten through. The reason is that even as they started to move in, they had to move through a wooded area. They set up their defense through a wooded area. And I've argued this for years trying to explain to people about anti-tank and anti-armor operations. Guys, you don't have to have big flaming explosions. All you've got to do is knock it out. Just drive so it can't be driven. And what happened is they knocked out the lead APC and the second APC and the Canadian forces retreated immediately. because it was obviously surgical. They didn't just blaze away, just dumpin' rounds down range like it was in a movie or something. Everything they did was surgical, first hit, kill it, bound, dead, and down to the next target. Everything was economy enforced, and that scares the snot out of everybody, guys. When you can use economy enforced and you create telling casualties right from the get-go, the whole world and concept of what kind of aggressor they're facing changes. That's why I've said before, kill every last one of them. Don't let any of them realize or get any information on what happened. If you have to fight, and it's the beginning of this war, and it will be for you. See, the other thing about this Monday rant, or this Oregon thing is, there is going to, maybe if somebody's got a conscience in the jury, they could hang it, but I haven't heard any more of there, and whether or not that's even going to happen. But if they start this BS with phenomenal fines and basketball score sentences, it's like you'd have been better off pulling the weapon, killing who you could, and fighting to the last and be done with it. Because they're trying to torture you to death. Well, how about instead you have confidence in the arms that you carry and the training that you have developed? Like I said, become a master of the art. There's only one side to the fight. There's only one side. There's only one winner and there's only one story and that's you and that's the attitude everybody should have Here's how it works. You came out. I didn't pick my house up and go down the road I didn't pick my community up and down. You brought your BS down the road to us Now it's time to get rid of you. Hey Mark. Go ahead caller. Hey sir, uh, let's look at the conversation here at the topic on weapons Wednesday, but I read an article recently about some of the next generation hand grenades and they're saying they're going to have electronic fuses. Oh God. That sounds like a good idea all the way around. No, no, because the electronics fuse, you know what, that's going to be the undoing, but everything is designed towards being able to shut it off. See, one thing about a mechanical fuse is, well, I mean, once you do set it, it's done, okay? Granted, well, a capping electronic fuse is going to have, you know, you pull the pin or you hit the button and you throw it, 1,000, 2,000. They're probably even proposing that it'll be a settable fuse. That is a cluster screw waiting to happen. That's going to be, that'll be as bad as, you know, again, Russian grenades from World War II. Well, I think there's a fuse. Well, maybe there's a long fuse, maybe there's a short fuse, maybe somebody was tired and starving and maybe there's no fuse, because they were kind of looking cross-eyed at their work. You see? Whereas on the other hand, you know, again, quality product, mechanical, I don't know how you can make it better. We have the most reliable grenades on the planet. Seriously. Electronic will not do that for us. You know that is this is this is a fact this is the year 2016 a hundred and a hundred and what eight years ago Do you know what was stated that the grenade and the mortar are obsolete and will no longer be seen on the battlefield? Did you know that? Wait to tell you in 1908 there was a series of articles talking about trends in warfare and they stated that the mortar And the grenade would be completely obsolete with modern long-range battlefield use. Well Mark, I remember, and this is like 2004, 2005 in the marine artillery, we got from the ammunition supply point, we got a 155mm Alucor shell, it was whatsoever from Vietnam. We had to take a steel wire brush and bust the rust on them. And clean them up. Yeah. And so I can't imagine these electronic fuse grenades, you know, 30 years, 35, 40 years later, and we're still going to count on the battery still, you know, having any power left and not being corroded or anything like that. Well, the circuitry, just think about it. Yeah, think about it. Even though it's simple circuitry, what's the reliability factor with regard to oxidation with minor components? Just like you said, just to think about it, you've already seen what happens with major components, but the smaller and more intricate the component, the more likely it's going to have oxidation issues. All it takes is one failure to properly seal or resin cover the component, and this happened actually with the laws rocket. And that's a simple, simple system that was used in Vietnam. It was just like the M16. When the Lost Rocket went into the field, it got more of our people killed than it did the enemy. Mostly because it didn't work. This flat out didn't work because the electronic circuitry, there were a whole bunch of miscalculations even though they'd done all the research and testing. There were a whole bunch of mechanical miscalculations on the resins and material used to seal the electronics. And what happened is the system failed. Everything oxidized in the regular environment. And especially in a tropical environment. So just imagine the more complicated it is as a stored piece of munitions what the life, what its shelf life won't be. Because they won't, they aren't going to spend money and do old circuitry. They're going to do flush face or they're going to do microchip and either way those two will frag. They're going to be China sport junk. It's just that simple. with the German military and apparently the Germans are not, they have absolutely no confidence in their weapons, in their military weapons, their standard infantry rifle. Apparently they're saying it was not meant to be shot as much as it actually did. Well that's not the first time that's happened. You're probably talking about the The G36? Yeah. Yeah, the G36. Okay. You know why? Well, go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah, apparently it's got a plastic part that should have a metal part and not inaccurate as hell. What's in it after a few rounds. The other thing is that it's also their machine gun. Their MG3s, their rocket launchers, their anti-air missiles. I mean, they're having problems with them, like big time. Well, part of it, now again, the G36 is like the Steyr AUG, the AUG, okay? The AUG is a neat looking rifle, but immediately, once the Australians have a tendency to be hot in the trigger to begin with, but they had a general warning going on that after 90 rounds, it would soften up all the plastic components. So they put a 90-round restriction full-auto on the gun, I mean, even with limited burst, in other words, 3-5 round burst control. Now it's because like you said they were shooting it more than they expected to and it's like really you put people in these hotspots in a combat zone and if you look at how troops fight and then pay attention Understand that you know the polymers are limited not I pointed this out about you know the polymer receivers You know people would ask about that and that we need to you know, there are people that have been burning a lot around them They're they've had both they argue. I've heard I've heard both ways But as far as the present military plastic rifles, it's just like aluminum block motors when they came out back in the 70s. And they weren't new. They actually started that before World War II and then dropped the idea completely. But you put a steel sleeve inside an aluminum block. What happens? Well, for most of the time it runs good, but then you try to run it hard. And what happens is the steel sleeve heats up the aluminum to the point where it becomes a lubricant. and the steel sleeve starts to water back and forth and travel to a degree with the piston. Progressively, what happens is that stutter becomes more and more extreme based upon whether or not you let the engine cool back down before you stop it, which typically people don't. And at a given point, both the piston and the sleeve have a tendency to leave that crankshaft and sail up through the top of the motor or again walk up and angrily dislodge themselves in whatever obscure way and that's the end of the engine. I just described what happened with Vega engines always, okay, non-stop. That was one of the first aluminum engines. Plastique's the same way because the first thing, the first solution is what will insert steel? Well, yeah, but you see, steel's really great for conducting, first of all retaining and conducting heat. And it's not that it will fracture, it's that it will soften and then fail that way. And it would, in a real combat situation, you can burn hundreds of rounds easily, thousands easily. And especially if you're grossly outnumbered. Maybe you got piles of ammo, but you're grossly outnumbered. Congratulations, you've got a lot of targets that need your interest. And you keep trying real hard. What it means is, like I said, carry three blocks. Apparently the solution when your rifle's not shooting accurately is to stop shooting. Right, and use harsh language. Yeah. You know, you... Sauerkraut und Nifters! Wie de busten ortte de... Bedy Grable socks! Bedy Grable? That was World War II. Yeah, grandpa taught me these things. What can I say? Fart! We stopped fighting! Only conservative stopped... What did he say? You see, that's the only reason he's not... Oh, wait a minute, maybe we're not worried about what he says. He's like, he's talking at us. No, he's shouting. Why did he stop shooting? His gun's overheated. Well, it's awfully quiet. That's because everybody's gun overheated. We have to talk now! Shoot them all! What? Well, the German UN troops are here on the ground, and whenever they do that, we have to talk. It's like the Batfaggots. It means there's two things. Either they're out of ammo, or their guns are overheated. Either way, kill them all. But we have to talk! No, no, we don't have to talk. Goodbye. Goodbye. Anyway, go ahead, call your champion there. Hey, Scorpio in California. All that electronics stuff can be washed out with some high-energy microwaves, including I hope that they put electronic controls on all their firearms. After we close the electronics in them, get the firearms, take the grip pads, off, take the battery out, take a soldering iron, melt a piece of plastic and put this here, disconnect here in the proper place where the gun will fire all the time and we have it. That's why I was laughing when they were talking about, well if they can't get the civilians there, we're going to have all the police and military using these and it's like, it's like the Judge Dred thing. First of all, it's microcircuitry. There's nothing they could do to properly protect it from an extreme wash of whatever type of radio bay and a weapon down the bandwidth they want to use but again, microwave is perfect. You just swing a cannon around, a micro gun around and all of a sudden you can say grenade or super flare or whatever and it just goes, in fact it just sits there and stares at you and doesn't even light up. That's what I want. I laughed my hind mouth when somebody said, well, they're going to have this. First of all, it's based on the idea they're going to try and get you and me, all of us, to go to the same thing. And like I said, why? It's amazing. Two things to think about. It's like talking about grenades. Let me give you an example of grenades. Vietnam War. The grenades, mostly that the Viet Cong and even the lot that the NVA were using were Viet Cong produced or forward area produced. And they were traditionally made with pickup munitions. You know, unexploded artillery shells and unexploded bombs. They were made with pipe, they were made in a number of different ways. The cast iron, cast aluminum. The fuses were crude and rude at best. And in every case where there was a grainage or thrown, usually every other one didn't necessarily work. Which is not bad because if they had, you'd have casualties. Well, the problem is that the American forces, because we were talking about overheating guns, typically were outnumbered or were pinned down and then outnumbered, certain units were. And what they would do is they'd have to collapse their defensive grid. Well, the choppers come in and try to resupply and they couldn't get in close enough because these, you know, NVA regiments would be pinning, you know, would be pinning the troops down and maintaining good air defense. So the chopper crews would just kick the ammo out where they assumed the troops still were, but they'd already retreated from those positions. Well, the casualty ratio, or the casualty rate, on the ground for the American troops after the helicopters kicked the gear out, doubled and tripled because all of a sudden they got hold of American hand grenades, which were very reliable. Now when they threw a grenade, they hurt somebody every time. See the difference? And the same is true with this technology. The electronic gun thing, Smith and Wesson agreed to that. Everybody needs to remember that guys who owned a Smith and Wesson agreed to do the electronic gun and they were the little horrors, the prostitutes, that everybody said, oh, well, if you're going to do that, we're not going to buy Smith and Wesson. Goodbye. And remember the government was saying, you have to buy Smith & Wesson, you have to buy Smith & Wesson, no we don't as a matter of fact. And you can't tell us what to buy and we're not buying Smith. Smith had a horrible time when those guys had to sell the company out because they ran it into the ground. The new guys that are in there have had an uphill battle selling Smith & Wesson products. because gun owners are very long-minded and in their mind, I don't know why you don't buy Smith, but people will tell them, nah, I don't get a Smith, those guys betrayed us. Well, it wasn't these guys that are there now, it was the other batch that was in there before. And what they did is if they would go ahead and do it, it would lay the groundwork for pushing other companies into the contract. But it didn't work because the market ruled. And Smith and Wesson went right in the toilet. Doesn't mean we didn't sell you Smith and Wesson's to each other, sure. Or nobody sold them because they knew they were going up in price. But they didn't buy anything new from the traders. And that's just how it worked. Now, the new guys are having a hell of a time, but they've been able to market products, or they've been doing their job. But had they done that, then would have been in all camps. And the idea is that they could do to us what we're talking about. They could shut it down because there'd be back door mandatory circuitry, or shut down circuit technology. And they'd brag up how they could just shut our stuff down, and everything else that we had would be illegal. Well at that point in time it's like, it's no different from a gun ban or a gun confiscation. I'll piss on you. Why don't you come and try and take them from us? Go ahead. You know, I would point out for everybody, all the callers, listening guys, everybody, uh, what's the date today? The 24th of October, 2016. What year did New York pass their mandatory ammunition registration? Assault weapon ban? Magazine ban? How many years now, guys? Remember, that was right after the last election. And they never came out and enforced it, did they guys? No. Why didn't they come out and enforce it? Come on, they feel really bad, but they all pumped up. They were going to mount, get the guns. And here's the other half of that. Every time I talk about that, people go, huh? They had mandatory ammunition registration that was supposed to be in place two and a half years ago. What happened to that? They got every wet dream that they've demanded at the national level in New York State. They're going to pass it, guys. No, guys, they passed it. So why didn't they enforce it? What do you think would be the end result if they tried to enforce it? Well, that's a trigger to a giant bear trap that every time they uncover a little bit gets bigger and bigger. Yeah. Think about it. I mean, I keep emphasizing, I mean, everybody goes into brain fart because it's feeling a little resistant and they're just going to do that really? Well, they got everything, everything and more. I don't believe they thought they were going to get the ammunition registration thing. I don't believe they did. I thought that was like flood us and then compromise. And instead, the Piss Willys and all of the traders got them to run right through with everything. But why? We're almost in the...