Mark Koernke discussed weapons maintenance and ammunition compatibility, specifically addressing a failure-to-extract issue with Venezuelan 7.62x51 brass-cased ammunition in a Mauser rifle. He provided detailed technical guidance on extracting stuck cases using penetrating oil and steel rods, emphasizing the importance of keeping detailed ammunition records and finding consistent loads that work reliably. The show also covered AR-15 configuration options (flat-top versus carry-handle), the advantages of minimal-recoil platforms for mounting expensive optics like night vision and thermal equipment, and tactical considerations for capturing and repurposing enemy weapons and heavy equipment in combat situations. Callers discussed weapons preferences, Syria policy concerns, and Russian government warnings to citizens studying abroad.
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For even now as Tyrants trampled each God-given right, we only watching tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave, dill the land of the free? Hey, right where we are for the moment and just mute for a minute because I got some ear candy for everybody. Because you've got to share when things are getting... Hey Mark, hey Mark. Go ahead. The station's not online. The station's not online again. Okay, so we're off the air, Ed. Are we off the air? Attention, attention. It takes me a second to power up the microphone, Dad. Yeah, we had a temporary problem, but it's already fixed. We're back up and on air. Did you copy? Mark? There we go. Can you hear me now? Okay, can we hear you now? Go ahead. No, we had a problem but I fixed it and then in pressing one button I made another problem. So it should be okay now. One, two, three, four. And you should be hearing us. Well anyway, we have Tom Learr. You might remember him. Learr. E-H-R-E-R. He did a lot of really great music. Much of it you have heard on Dr. Domeno over the many decades. This particular song is actually over a hat. Century old. But then again, so are most everybody listening here. remembering the song so anyway we grew up with it we're part of it I was lovely idiots from the 90s what was it like to grow up under the cold war now things are warm and fuzzy and it's like you look at these fools are you stupid are you stupid mean what you used to be there they're still pointing nukes at us you idiots yeah aren't you answering your own question num skulls yeah I know idiot well college college college fools yes anyway but still fun and again so long mom for everybody out there tom learer cool and play these songs we enjoy the songs because they enjoyed the war things are going to come out of world war three song to their mothers as they will have gone different in here that i should explain there's a humbly and i don't think the system wants me to play that never had that happened before That is not the music that was intended for that. It was shifted. I mean guys as soon as I was playing this on the air, this was shifted. I have never seen that before. I didn't touch anything. We didn't move any... Very fascinating. So let me see what happens if we start it again. Oh dudes. You know, I just shared this before we started the program and blocked it everywhere. And I noticed right away it like zipped with like 100 than 200 hits almost immediately once. It was like a hesitation and then everybody was sharing it. That is fascinating. They are terrified. We will start law. I'm telling you across the board, they are terrified. We will look straight at them and tell them exactly what we think about them because we got to drape ourselves in that communist Chinese made American flags. We can go die and kill Christian Syrians. for the Israeli skank. And if we don't do that, well, we'll be busy looking at what's going on here and they won't be able to get away with murder back in America, because we'll murder them back. Oops, did I say that? Yes, I did. Anyway, let's see what happens with the reintroduction of this. Here we go. Every great war produces its great hits. After each war, we like to gather around the piano or the guitar and play these songs. We enjoy the songs because they remind us of how much we enjoyed the war. World War III is almost upon us, as you know, by popular demand, it seems. And if any songs are going to come out of World War III, we better start writing them now. I have one here. This is a song that some of the boys will have sung to their mothers as they will have gone bravely off to war. There's one reference in here that I should explain. There is a reference to our leading television news commentators, Jeff Huntley and David Brinkley. I feel that this is appropriate. As you know, World War III will be the first World War to be seen on television and uh... Watch me on your TV. Contrapuntally the cities we have lost. Need for you was need. Free was the clouds and nears. I felt it was needed, but you know what? Kinda gave a flag in advance and that, that right in the end, guys, it did not shift to another video. I didn't move anything, I didn't touch anything. It shifted inside YouTube. But it did not change the program, it did not change the video track, it didn't change anything. It just ran like that all of a sudden it was like, well, you know, I've told you before on Communications Tuesday, classic jamming noise that would be broadcast was bagpipe music or trash music. And so that was kind of exactly what you were hearing there. Big Brother's watching. Isn't that fascinating? I think we're drilling the right tooth, so I think we better find that other bigger bit. Okay, so again a heads up. Anybody who, because I know Tom is waiting in the wings, so we're going to unmute Tom, but Tom wait for a second. We had Tom at the range. He's already used brass cased ammunition without any problem in this built 308 Mauser based on a regular military Mauser converted to 308, which means he got a barrel change. A lot of that happened in the upper state of Michigan because of a couple of individuals. We started a series of classes at the community colleges to educate gunsmiths, train gunsmiths. The big project were the inexpensive K98 Mausers that were coming in for about $60, $70 a piece. For a short window there, no longer is that available. Now you're looking at $200 to $300 a piece. You can go to jgsales.com. They've got a pretty good price on some 7 and 8 millimeter Mausers right now. Anyway, they converted them over. This particular rifle worked well with all of the standard, apparently, civil brands, brass case, commercial ammunition. Put some steel case in there, we'll find out what model that was, and we had something that we've talked about before, where we have adhesion between the case, the spent case, and the chamber of the rifle. Now, a little heads up, the Germans had this problem and knew they were going to have this problem because they'd experienced an occasion with their Mausers in World War I and in World War II. Now, while they didn't do as much steel case rifle in World War I, they did some, but where they really went to steel case in World War I was with their 9mm Parabellum. using it in pistols, whatever other real light rifles they had towards the end of the war which were the precursor to submachine guns. In the rifle they did at the end of the war do some steel case or started to work in steel case but they already knew because of research what would happen or could happen depending upon quality and production and wartime production things happen as we know more so than peacetime. Anyway, just bad day, your factory gets bombed, people are a little worried about getting bombed to the factory by the airplanes above, that kind of thing. World War II though, the Germans already knew that within no more than six months of going to war, they would need to go to steel case. After World War II, all the knowledge they built up from that is what they used to build up the Bundeswehr. Okay, Heil Heil, the Wehrmacht, I mean the Bundeswehr. Anyway, The HK91-G3 rifle has a fluted chamber for that purpose like its counterpart of an earlier area. The fluted chamber with a gas diverter back into the area was designed to compress the case to a degree allowing for the breaking of contact between the steel chamber wall and the steel rifle case. Well, Tom had a, took a batch of the ammunition he hopefully hasn't hand to the range. and we had a problem and so Tom go ahead you got you there don't we? Yeah, I had an interview on my end. That's okay. Go ahead. The box that I got is Venezuelan ammo. I can't even read it. Okay hold on before we go any farther does it say that it is Venezuelan? Does it say Venezuelan on it? Yeah, hey touch no end Venezuelan. Okay so it's Venezuelan ammunition. Yeah, I can't read the rest of it. It says 20 cartridges caliber 762 by 5180. Now is it a commercial 20 round box with them side by side like the Federal or is it a smaller military box if it's like in a cartridge bandolier? It looks like it's a smaller box. It's kind of like an OD green with yellow lettering on it. Okay. It says Venezuela. Does it appear to have Spanish or is it English? Is there any other writing on it? What does it say, Cartoosho? Does it say... Yeah, it's only cartoosho. Cartoosho. Right. I've had some of that ammo. Generally good ammo. The ones I've had were in a green box. Steel case. About like a cigarette case. Okay, yeah, what that is, those boxes are designed specifically for your weapons, you know, your assault system. Remember in the German and the South, anything, but it's carrying a Mauser, you have the pocket systems in the leather or in canvas with leather fittings. The box is designed, literally, you just tear the top of it off, stick the whole box into the cartridge carrier, and you've got the stripper clips right there or the loose ammo, depending upon how it is it was put together. Is it in stripper clips or loose ammo? Loose. Okay, 20 rounds per box. Now, is it a steel case or is it a brass case? It's brass. It is a brass case. See, that's why I needed confirmation on that. So it's a brass case. Apparently, for whatever reason, this particular, well, we don't have the adhesion steel on steel, we're just going to have to lubricate it. That should come out with some tapping without a problem, because the brass will give before the chamber's going to be damaged. I feel some PB brass steering it. Very good. Let it sit for the night. Let's let it work its way around that case and around through the metal, you know between the two metals and then tomorrow you can tap it out or should be able to. Okay. Now, did you look at the extractor on the Mauser? Was the extractor broken? It didn't look good. It didn't look good. It's not fractured or anything. It's not, doesn't have a part missing. There's no broken shiny metal anywhere, right? No, didn't look like it. Good. Okay, so... Until we can do an autopsy on the case, we can't do any more guessing, but, and again, by what Kentucky says, he's used this ammunition before. Also, it's in a green box, 20 round standard battle cartridge box, guys. See, the commercial boxes are 20 round side by side by side, Styrofoam or cardboard insert. Needless to say, we used to pack our ammunition that way too, but in a compressed box, taking up minimal space. These are the battle cartridge boxes which are kind of square. Basically like a couple of cigarette packs, a little more. Like a hard body cigarette pack, two of them, one in front of the other. So again, that's expected. Very good. And so nothing else on the radar. I don't think we have to worry about a batch yet. We'll find out because we'll look at it. Well, you'll look at it and we can get an idea. I'll talk to you later about it. And he's actually bringing it tomorrow. Like I said, it doesn't have, it says industrials, it's all in Spanish and stuff, I can't even do it. Very good. I feel Spanish in school, but that's where it is. I've been looking at it and it looks brass to me, it could be steel with brass coloring, I don't know. I got something going on, yeah it's okay, I got something going on in the background here. Gee, this is amazing, that's completely overriding everything we're doing there. So we're talking about like a major failure to extract. I had one of those with the case reports, firing in an FAL. Those were also by Dan Prim, the ones I had. I would assume there is no way to tell them to only look inside the case unless you have any. Is this the first one you fired or one of several that were fired? It's just the first one I fired from that bottom. Interesting. And of course that just popped into the... Actually, it would be what it said. What it means is you have a chamber issue. or not a chamber issue with your gun, but the sizing with the cartridge case, until we can get the first one out, we're guessing about anything else. Yeah, like I said, I haven't even fired probably a hundred rounds from what has been through that gun hole. Do you remember having to palm, having to beat the bolt closed? No. No, it's function with the other cases. We went through this in the second hour when he came up on the air. Like I said, otherwise with all of the rounds so far, it's functioned flawlessly. It's the military dimension possibly of the case that's causing the problem. As opposed to the, because you were firing Winchester, you said, and Federal, correct? Yeah, something like that. When, Remington Federal, something like that. Okay, wait a minute. Now, you can't do that to us. Okay, wait a minute. What do you mean something? You bought the ammo, you're the one who shot it. So, what did you fire before? You see, but it was, again, it was U.S. civilian ammunition. Yes. That's where, again, you need to qualify. Or something like that. You're the one who fired the weapon, think. Well, it was a name brand. It was the Remington, I think, the one in the white and orange box. I don't know if Remington is doing white and orange, I haven't really paid attention. I know the green and yellow, I'm looking at them. First rule, always pay attention. Keep a schedule on your weapons when you're using them, just so you have an idea of what you've been using. If you were using a certain load and it seemed to work for you and it's cheap, I would be kind of moving towards purchasing that if it's consistent. And two things, they're operating the weapon and hitting the target. And then it's a matter of how precisely or repeatedly hits the target, which is really what you want, consistency. So that is the issue. You need to find a round that you like and you need to stick to it and start pushing that on that rifle. And it's obvious that these other American civilian loads seem to be working well, so that may be where you have to gravitate. Yeah. Yeah, I'll do that. Okay, well we're good. Okay, I just wanted to follow up on that. So you gave us an idea where to look and then you give us an update once we know what's going on with the case. Once you get the case out because then we do an autopsy on the case to see if there's anything strange there. The chamber does not have any significant flaws or you'd already be seeing it from the very first time you fired it with the other rounds. Yeah, it's purely a matter of precision. It's how tight the tolerances are within the chamber of the barrel, within the chamber cut for the barrel that was built that they installed on that rifle. Because that's where it comes, whoever did it, did well. I mean, they weren't using tired tooling, you don't have a sloppy chamber, or you would not have been able to extract the other rounds from the get-go. It would have been consistently doing this repeatedly, and you'd be very frustrated. Yeah, I know. This is a minor frustration based upon another round that you experimented with that did not serve us well. Well, I'm glad I had for a while. I was at the, out in the back 40 and now when I'm in the firefight. Well, that's why you buy a bad end for a Mauser, but you probably don't have it. It's probably got a supporter stock, right? That's why we tell you don't buy a gun and lead it into the corner. Don't buy a gun and depend on it. You got to fire it. You're out of the closet. Yeah, you gotta fire it. Yeah, I know. I know. But I got more than other people out there. We're talking other people out there. The other thing, Tom, when you put that rod down there to drive that casing out, I want you to really pay attention to how much, just barely try to tink, tink, tink. That's how it'll move. And then increase a little bit, and then crease a little bit. And tell us, was it about halfway to driving a skinny little nail, or was it like driving a spike to get that out? I want that measure, please. I'll know more when I get it out. I'll have to go into town and get a steel rod or see if someone I know has one. Okay. I'll have to look at stuff to see what I have for my local thing. You should be able to tap that out with the hardware. Yeah. I think it already cost one, I think. Oh, I know that. Okay, so that precludes that ting-ting portion of the measure, doesn't it? I didn't hear that. Okay. Yeah, I'll be quiet plus the aluminum is it was an aluminum rod see that's the other problem. Yeah, it was a little rod Yeah, it was usually through site isn't it yeah? So the other thing is with the again with the penetrating oil like I said we're having to wait because I would let the penetrating oil sit for the day for the evening You're not many big rush. Yeah, then break out the the hammer big by the rods anyway because it's awfully handy I used to have a couple of brass rods, but unfortunately using them so often with certain hot loads that people came up with that were for testing certain weapons, well, we had to get that case out of there and I did not replace them. But steel should be readily available. Usually any good hardware has got stock on the shelf. Some people would say, well, you could use a wooden dowel, which is true, but you got to be careful and you might find, or typically you'll find the dowels are oak. So, as long as it's, you know, again, you want to make sure it's a tight fit because you want as much of the wood as you can down the tube, but you don't want to see you have to beat the wood down the tube to get to the case because then you just create another problem if you can't get the wood out. Or if it's snapped laterally along the grain, you got to stick in there, you see. So, the steel is still your better choice. Just, again, make sure it's longer than the barrel, longer than the muzzle by about four fingers. In other words, four or five inches. That way when you're tapping on it, you don't get any boo-boos on the end of that muzzle, because that crown is what determines the travel of that bullet. You don't want to distort the crown whenever possible. You want to make sure it stays pristine and crisp. If you're standing in a hardware store that has bar stock, round bar stock, that's better than threaded, I would think. Oh yeah, no, no, I should say it. No, not thread stock. I was talking about steel rod. There's rod there, you should be able to find it. If I ask them, who do you think might have this? You have to travel a little bit to get it. That's better than trying to do the threaded rod stock. And again, the dowel, like I said, each one has its pluses and minuses. The organic, the dowel, most of the time works, but when it fails, and I've seen it, it can create more trouble than it's worth. Whereas the steel rod or the solid brass rod, uh... is still your best choice and then what you have it you don't do anything with the put it over in the corner with your cleaning gear because it's part of your armory equipment now anything like this happens with any of your other caliber thirty weapons you've got something to deal with it say yeah it's an investment tool something that should be in the only so simple to crude device but it's so simple to take a look at this price list as in the situation you're in right now Yeah, like I said, I tried the aluminum gun thing and I snapped down the first thing on the thong. Oh, yep. Very good. Okay, we're gonna let you go then. Alright, talk to you later. Thank you for the follow-up. Yep. I will. And let's see, what else do we have? I'll tell you where we're at while we're past the bottom of the hour. Don, real quick here, night vision technology. Look outside, guys. Whoa, that sunlight disappeared real quick today, didn't it? especially with some overcast. The only thing I will say is this, we got enough sun in this hole where before they turned the radiation off and stopped the weather from hitting us, because I'm really not joking about that. We were like this island and everything else comes right up to us and then goes around us. And it's almost like we've got something focused here. Well, I mentioned down here and all of a sudden we just had a really weird shift. Everything got really dynamic and all of a sudden we have weather. Honest again, not much, but I just, I'm always amazed. Anyway, Don, Night Vision Technology, you have it, we need it. And how can we get hold of you? The web page, what do we have to do if we go to the web page? Just make sure everybody knows about that. Well, you can go over to the web page. That's Y-D-T-O-E dot U-S. Again, Y-D-T-O-E. You'll see goggles and gun sights and thermal and digital and green screen and thermal and... green screen and the digital being entry level, a little bit less than what this generation used to be. You'll see prices that, what we can adjust if you give me a call, we can lower those prices. If you call me, we can talk about the device, we can talk about what this will do compared to that. We can talk about the actual price. I'll give you a code if you want to purchase over the internet, you enter that code there in the little box and boom, you've lowered the price. or the monoculars or the gun sites or the gun sites or the gun sites. If you go over to ydtoe.us and you want to know, well, what's the real price or what will this do, give me a call. My number is 23198458. Again, 231798458. Closer gun sites. Green screens are thermal and there's that entry level digital stuff. and train with it, you can use it in the daytime. Again, two, three, one, seven, nine, six. We'll roll with this. So, hey, it is a weapons one day. You know, it's coming up to that season where you're generally not walking around. I'm sorry, Don. That's okay. This technology is really doing some interesting stuff right now. And just to the point where it's like, really? Okay, well, we'll shoot that knee. Oops, we'll beep. Had to kill it. and walk up and put a bullet in it. What I want to bring up again is a lot of you guys, people are asking you should I build a flat top or a carry handle. Well the carry handle ARs, you can do a carry handle by simply buying one now. You can still have the flat top plus plus because there are several different ways that they've done the iron sights thing. If you have the A-frame left up front, I mean hell, when I even ask that question, you have to qualify with so many things because there are so many stinking ways the AR-15 is put together now. Which is cool, it's like I said, it's a piece of junk, but it's a neat piece of junk. As Sergeant Ellsworth used to say when he'd be giving classes on it, he goes, yeah, oh no, that's not my first choice, but it is kind of cool because you can do all kinds of things with it, and I have. And Sergeant Ellsworth is one of our critical armorers, taught many thousands and thousands of Marines as an Op Ford senior training NCO. He's gone now. Then gone for more than a few years but Sergeant Ellsworth trained many many many thousands of men who went into war and he probably gave more information on weapons than any individual that was available to them. And on the AR we always had the discussion about whether or not they could do a complete flat top or the way we used to do it guys is crude and rude. You see that A-frame up front? You see Mr. Saw? Then you see Mr. Grinder, and then you see Mr. Paint Can. That's how we used to do it. That made it real clear. But again, then there was anything up front for a front iron sight, you see. So if you're asking about a flat top, the question is how you're going to configure the rest of the gun. Typically, you're probably going to buy it. So you can get it either way. With another little rail up front for an auxiliary or an iron sight, you have a pop-up front, pop-up rear. or you can buy it with the A-frame up front in whatever short, medium, or conventional 20-inch, long or standard hand guard, which now who knows what standard is because there isn't any. But as far as the rear goes, A-frame front, get a carry handle rear, and then otherwise put down the night vision on it. OK? Or again, take your pick, thermal or night vision. The ARs are optimal for that because of minimal. This is the reason that I would give a person an AR. Felt recoil because the person is too young, too old, convalescing. What do I mean by that? Young has a problem with weight, what body weight to labor effort. Old, same thing. It's not so much body weight, it's muscle tone and degradation of body structure, skeletal structure, everything you can imagine is going downhill. Still contribute to the battle, best way to do that, minimize everything else so they can maximize on the experience they have and accuracy is increased, okay? Convalescent, individuals who are hurt but are still going to have to defend themselves or stay in the fight are walking wounded or are walking post-treated wounded, okay? The other subjects include the very thing that Don deals with. Minimal recoil or minimal felt recoil because of the way it's protracted with the buffer system means I'm putting minimal shock on a very expensive piece of equipment because it's expensive because you have to spend money. I spend a lot of money on my glass, my optics. I consider it expensive though when I spend $100 because I know if I shop at gun shows I can find sitting on the table some really nice glass for a good price. Not so much a night vision or a thermal. I have to go out and invest. If I'm going to invest, I should protect it. So most of what we'll see would be on the ARs, or you'll see us putting on the ARs because of its minimal felt recoil, minimal damage, or minimal progressive operational attrition. In other words, you keep ticking it, ticking it, ticking it. If I poke you once, it's obnoxious. I poke you twice, it's really obnoxious. I poke you several times. But when you keep poking or jabbing and jabbing at something as mechanical, remember there's tensile strength involved. There's only so many flexes things can do sometimes. It all varies depending on the material and the quality of the product, etc. Quality of the product is good, but it's still man-made and it will wear out. So why wear it out sooner? Now it doesn't mean we won't put it on a 50, because many of those parts of Donhaas will. It doesn't mean we won't put it on a 308. The doctors that are listening down the road here, there's like 600 guys in that unit, well, more closer to seven now. But there's over 600 guys over this area here. And they're all, again, invested in putting theirs on everything from AK-74s, AR-15s, and all kinds of configurations. And they do a lot of HK91s with the Picatinny rails on the roof. So you see, but they still, they do put them on 3-H, we're going to do the same thing. But if I had to husband it, I'm going to throw it over on the ARs because, or M16s we capture because I know I'm not going to be beating them up as much. OK? And that's a critical issue because, again, can you go out and, from dirt, make a night vision device Don's offering? No. Can you make a thermal unit from dirt? No, so whatever we do have we need to take care of on the ARs I won't really criticize the only thing I will stop is don't buy an AR pistol Don't buy you can buy an AR 15 shorty top upper but don't put it with your guns Go bury it so far away from your property. Nobody will know where it is. Don't have it near your weapons Don't do anything like that at all instead 16 inch 16.5 whatever than the whatever is you choose and longer no pistol Why? It's a waste of ammunition. You got the potential and the 223 doesn't have much potential, but it sure as hell has a lot more than 9 when you got a full barrel out that belongs there. If you want a short gun, get a 9mm something or a 45 something, or for that matter you can get weapons like that in .40 caliber now. You get two, three cartridges for the same space that you carry one rifle cartridge in that you're not going to get all the potential out of and you're going to be flaming people. In fact, like I've said many times, it's like, you're going to shoot that. You stand over there. That way when you draw fire, you'll be drawing fire. Mark. We got it. Yeah, at Georgetown, Texas, you know, speaking about weapons, you know, you were talking about yesterday about movies and conditioning. I watched this cheesy B-rated movie on one of the cable channels and it was like this group trying to rescue hostages from this mercenary group and all that, this Middle Eastern mercenary group. And there we were sitting there going, blow up the .50 cal, blow up the Howitzer, blow up the mortars. And I'm like, well, you have enough weapons here, you can just take out the squad and all that stuff and take out those mortars that Howitzer and that .50 cal that Humvee and turn it on them. Why destroy it? Yeah, why not take it with you? Are you in control? Yes. Is it yours? No, it is. Well, again, see that's... In a rate situation, to be quite honest, that we would treat that the same as you would. It's a radar operation. And I've already explained that when you're in a radar or if you're in para-conventional, when you overrun a position, especially since you know that they haven't had time to do anything about you. If you can acquire a weapon, which is why you should always cross train as many as you can, and you can swing it around, well hell, they already provided you with, oh look, there's four cans of ammo right here. Now I'm not telling you to go look for more cans of ammo, I'm telling you that since this is like icing on the cake, this is butter on the bread. uh... you eat well but you eat better if you got more goodies and in this case if you can shoulder or sling over that that AR-15 and jump behind a bigger gun always you also don't have to go as far to deliver the same kind of thud over and over again so the advantage of taking control of heavy weapons and swinging them around is quite advantageous. Now I'm going to point something out even with artillery pieces, some are solid charge, some are dual charge, dual system, and some are bag charge. Know the difference, go do the research. Solid fixed ammunition is all one piece like you see with most tank rounds, but not all tanks use a fixed type of ammo. Many use a dual dual system with a half case, a bag system, and of course then a projectile separate. You can't just jump behind the gun and go boom boom with it. But where you can swing artillery piece down, notice I didn't say well first of all certainly swing it around, point it towards the enemy, you bring the tube down flat. You're not shelling somebody 20 yards, you know 20 miles away, you're going to shell somebody 100 yards away. And as my barber used to say, the guy that had a divot in his leg and a divot in his torso from an 88, as he pointed out, he goes, yeah, when you attack German 88s and they get a little pressed, they would swing the barrel down and use them like sniper rifles. He goes, that's what happened to me. Think about it. So you turn the gun around and you, it'll be like, well I don't know how to set, see you may not know how to set a fuse. But if you've ever thought what it's like to have 155 millimeter projectiles swinging through your shack or running, you know, running across the battlefield, you know, the blast and then the, uh, that big projectile, everything it runs into, even if it wasn't set to, you know, cap detonate, most of them aren't. Remember you got to set the fuse, you got to set the, the process. So there's a whole lot of kinetic energy there. If it doesn't go bang. If it thuds a wall, bust stuff up. When you're trying to dodge wreckage and debris, you're not shooting at me. So that's one thing to think about. In fact, most of the tricks of the trade they don't talk about. You saw the movie Green Beret with John Wayne and they talk about, you know, they actually showed you what was the equivalent to, again, a SF firebase slash, you know, an SF group base or a village defense, okay? And you see how they collapsed their defense and they fall back and fall back, guys? Well, that was, that's pretty accurate except that usually they collected every other stinking heavy bore gun they could find. Special Forces is not a combined arms team unit that typically runs around with support artillery on its back. But if you could find something you could draw from from the supply system, you brought it to the base and you made it part of the area defense. Now in most of the SF units in the early days artillery pieces were the most common thing. They would pull a battery to get up like the first first SF group First attachment and second on, we were all deployed in the same location in Vietnam. Their primary last-ditch guns were 155 towed artillery pieces that had been pilfered. They had a complete battery and they were not so much designed for lobbing shells way out, though they certainly could, but they were always in the rest low position for horizontal use. A dirty trick is you set the fuse short so it as quickly as it leaves the barrel. Yeah, but by then it's a couple hundred yards down range and men just gatters that stuff all through the air and across the ground and hopefully splitting skulls and arms and legs and torso. Leaving chunks and pieces behind, if not charred wreckage. And that's, again, that's the whole point. Everything, no matter what it is. So a good point to bring up is, again, oh, we're going to destroy it. Oh, can I take it? If I can't take it, see, here's the policy. If I have to destroy you to get past you, I will. But if I can neutralize you and not destroy it, look at what I get in the way of benefit by swinging that barrel around and expending every last round that's sitting there. Here's another thing that makes, you know, the ground pounders, that's what they call the artillery guys, the ground pounders. Here's something that makes them really nervous. They've been sent HE and they've been sent HE and they've been sent starlight and so they're sending out starlight at night to keep areas lit and they're sending out HE to, you know, pepper the area. And then they get sent AG in the morning and then in the afternoon they get sent canister rounds. Yeah. That makes artillery boys real nervous. Why? Because they know the upper guys, they know something's coming towards the ground pounders. Canister slash, either, canister was replaced by a flechette. Yeah. Yeah, canister is basically, Mr. artillery shell is a big shotgun shell. A big shotgun, yep. and that again why the sf what they would do is pull everything interestingly enough because of that kind of collection the first tank sort a by the uh... north vietnamese in the south vietnam against american forces which was against an american sf base uh... the only thing that saved them were the scavenged recoilless rifles in save them they still were overrun but the only thing they had to fight back with because the laws rockets which were supposed to replace everything it was almost mac demara you know super does everything rounds Well, they had pallets of them and not one of them worked. Some of the men who died were found with laws rockets that they had partially disassembled the firing system to try and get the stinking things to work and in the process were shot and band-headed to death. Because it's the only thing they had. They had recoilless rifles but they were in certain positions, some of those were overrun and the whole thing was a debacle. The only thing that was able to actually take on the tanks that came through, which mostly were PT-76 light tanks, past tanks, the PT-76s were knocked out, were knocked out because of a combination of demolitions, which means you've got to get close. And everything else, the lost rockets didn't make it. It turned out that it was a combination of failed seals. What it was is a sealing material. They actually used a series of adhesives that were not properly tested even though they went to the tropical warfare zone. Apparently somebody turned a blind eye or somebody did a subcontract thing. And all of the sealing technology used to prep, to prepare them for their environment, were compromised. And so all of the active components were neutralized by moisture. I told you before, water kills kids. Except for you when you need it and you're like three days after not having a drink of water. It would be a good idea to get some. Okay, that's a little different story. We're a big human generator. We need water in our panneries. You know what else the thing is too? It's Mark. This guy, one of the guys is a M16 jam. He threw it to the ground. There's a bunch of dead soldiers, enemy soldiers with AK-47s. And he just walked this off. He didn't pick up one of those AKs. He didn't pick up a single enemy weapon? Yeah. They weren't good enough. They were, they were, they were, they were inferior so you looked down upon them. You don't understand. George, you just don't understand. Commie stain on them. In the view, when I was done after I picked them up, there'd be more of a commie stain on them. Yeah, it's all right. Well, it's kind of bad, Ed. They might get close, you know? I'm not too bad for an AK. No, I won't even hesitate. That's the whole point. I was thinking about that the other day. I have a 74. I really do like... See, that's a problem. I like weapons. I'm a warmonger. I'm a hawk. Make the mistake, but I know that we should not be involved in Syria, and I'll tell you that over and over again. This time around you all better shack from the roof so we don't get screwed like we did with Iraq guys. And we don't have a point to be made there. Donald Trump's boy is uh, uh, oh, he backs up the no fly zone. He'd do that. Donald Trump when asked about that says I don't agree with that. Donald Trump's not agreeing with World War III. Yeah. Wow. Maybe he knows folks we don't think he knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. He knows. Maybe he knows something we don't think he knows. Well, you know, did you hear about that Putin has called all the Russian people studying universities, warning state students to come back to Russia? Well, again, if you read that, there's first going any political family members, which is appropriate, because again, remember, there's a couple things you're not talking about. If you're going to try and lever a Russian citizen, you kidnap his children or his wife, and you torture him a bit? Oh by the way, oh Mark how could you say that? What do you mean? Are you telling me that we don't torture? We were all bragging about it with Abu Ghraib, weren't we? So let's see, you rape, you know, the guys got, you know, like, you know, grade school kids at a boarding school and the Israelis grab the kids or tell the Americans to do it because we have the baby rapers that are employed. And then they rape the 9-year-old or the 10-year-old on television and show it to the Russian family member and say, well, at least they're still alive, but maybe not next week. See, we're not on the high ground anymore, guys. We're dealing with filth. Everybody understand that? We're dealing with filth in our regime, in the regime we have here. They've already done what I'm talking about. Why would you not think they would do it again? The Russians know better. They know that we've got pigs in the system. What they're doing is getting their people out of harm's way, and I believe they are very wise for doing that, because I wouldn't trust any of the bastards over here. Who? A marketing therapist might hear what you're waiting to do every now. Well we are at the top for everybody out there guys pay attention to the environment, organize our equipment, train as militia, remember that we have a lot of work to do and not enough time to get it done. I'm very happy you got a few more people up in it with some decent gear today and also make sure that they were cognizant of some of the other needs that they probably hadn't put on the shopping cart. Hey, I'll call you in a moment when I tell you about those other black bucks. Very good. God bless the republic. God bless the whole purveyor of the nation's gentlemen. The Empire. Guys, Don Betcher will be available. Why are you dealing with anyone else? Look outside. Night vision and thermal. You're gonna need it. Don, remember night vision and the page and take us out, please. Okay, the phone number is 231796-845-8. You'll need that to help adjust the prices. You should be over there on the web page, you know. F-Y-D-O-P dot U-S. Night vision. Long for the broken hearted.
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