Mark Koernke discussed firearms selection and self-defense strategy, focusing extensively on 1911 pistols versus modern alternatives like Glocks, covering caliber comparisons, reliability concerns, and practical carry configurations. The show shifted to detailed technical discussion of recoilless weapons systems, including the RPG-2, RPG-7, and LAWS rocket, explaining their mechanics, historical use in Afghanistan and Vietnam, and training applications. Callers contributed expertise on Rock Island 1911s, the Citadel model, and subcaliber training devices. The episode concluded with commentary on government accounting fraud, missing trillions in federal funds, and the importance of self-sufficiency and reloading ammunition independent of supply chain dependencies.
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You don't need to worry about having a military surplus store in your area. because mainmilitary.com is the only story you'll ever need all from the comfort of your computer. Visit them online today at mainmilitary.com. That's main, like the state, military.com. I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat and, speaking low to me, he said. We fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free. brave you buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun permits to start a business or to build a place for one on land that you believe you own you pay a yearly rent although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent your children must attend a school that doesn't educate and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state you read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize family farms and keep our country Put men of God in jail, harass your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors, so their children can be your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores, and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage to end with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the supreme law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God it detorts your freedom burning bright. As I awoke he vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, not free, But we have ourselves to blame For even now as tyrants trample each God-given right We only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep And wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Dill the land of the free Mark Hernke and Don Don Don One day closer to occupied territories West, listening to us LibertyTreeRadio.4MG.com, Indiana Freedom Talk Radio.com, and we are on AM&FM micro stations, CB base stations, and Ultra Net Hallmark and Golden Spike Technologies east and west of the Mississippi, along with Alaska. Good afternoon to all of our friends here in the Carolinas. And again, very busy, busy week. It is the middle of the week done. It has been a perfect day outside. What's it like in your neck of the woods? What's today? I want you to jump off the wall, please. Hey, it's a beautiful, wonderful day if you've got your poncho on or you're a duck or you're a plant in need of a lot of watering. Beautiful, wonderful day today, the 5th, 16th. It's like April showers out there. Flowers are already gone because it's the fall. It is raining and it's I didn't stick my head through the door or my hand out of the window mark, but I'd be willing to bet that that's a cold rain even if it is coming up from the south and the west. I'd be willing to bet that that's a cold rain being up there in the atmosphere for so long. Got here on the fifth day of October and fell out. Straight down the middle of the week, you know how that works, if you keep track of time with a piece of paper on the wall. Wednesday, you guys, that means, hey, 1911 in one hand with an empty magazine well and a full magazine in the other hand, we're going to solve the empty magazine well problem and fix that empty chamber problem at the same time. We can tell you now, it is a weapons ones day, the perimeter needs some attention and you know if you keep pulling the lever on that reloader, you can tell yourself like I am right now as I top off this magazine, there's plenty more where that came from. And that means we can offer equal opportunity coercive force when the time comes. Now, A lot of people keep asking, well, what would you care if you had a handgun or what would you care if you had a rifle? Okay, let me put it this way. Let me just explain something to you. Let's say right now I had to turn and grab something looking at a problem. Well, bad guys have decided they wanted to kick in the door of the neighbor's house. What have they got? It's an assault unit. They got body armor. I would grab the best tuned garand that I have, the D-clip vest that I've set up, or the standard cartridge belt with the assault cartridge vertical system that we set up years ago, M2AP ammunition, and I'd be nailing them from behind at crotch level. I'd be putting a bullet in the one closest as quick as I could simply because the ones up front wouldn't catch on. But I would point out that if I was dumping rounds faster, I would aim for clutches of three to four to five. Now, wait a minute, when you grab that gear, you grab that 1911, right? Yes, that's probably what I would carry. But I probably wouldn't carry one. This is one thing most of you don't probably realize when you saw me going around the country. I always carry two guns. I always carry at least two guns. I'm just carrying three, actually. But I'll carry two 1911s. One is a standard, just like you heard there, the other slightly shorter slide like i said it's a custom-built gun built by an ally years ago it is probably one of the not finest nineteen elevens i've ever owned i would never go i couldn't well i could go out and afford to buy it because i have to skimp and i'd have to you know not eat for days and uh... i could have gone on bought it but i probably wouldn't go out and do it because my logic is a good mid-grade or low-end forty-five will do everything i need to do but i do have that other gun and it's i carried it in an honor i always carried an honor of the friend who He made the effort to go halfway across the country to make sure that was in my hands. He traveled a little bit with us too here and there whenever we were in his area of operation. The 1911s would be my choice because of knock down power. There's a thing about this, it's balance. Even in some of the new movies, John Wick, he's putting two and three rounds on a target. And my problem with that is, although again everybody goes, well you go to double tap them, no you don't. Not if you decide that, you know, it depends on your policy of course, your personal training. But the double tap idea is that this double strike kinetic shock is so devastating. Well the 1911 was built to deliver that first strike with enough kinetic shock that dumping two, three, and four or five rounds isn't necessary. I would point out. You'd blow it to be a knockout blow. Yeah, the gun that it replaced, okay, just little heads up. was a gun that did require two, three and four taps. That's why we got the 1911. Does everybody understand that? Another thing to point out going back to Mr. Wick there, he was so handy at the headshot as the follow-up, if you remember. Why didn't he just do the headshot first? He never missed, did he? If you're gonna do that, why did you point out, Mark? One shot. What's the next line? One kill. Yes. Well, here again, it depends. Like I said, the reason I bring up the Garand is the Garand is a supremacy rifle. It is not an equity rifle. In this day and age, the Garand exceeds the potential of pretty much anything that your enemy is going to be carrying. And somebody showing up with a legion of heavy rifles like that would virtually dominate the aggressor on the other side. They don't want you to even think about that. It's like the discussion about any tank weapons I had this morning that I did for the part of the second hour. They don't want you to know about things because they don't want you to think outside the box and you have to be grossly overcomplicated. In reality, most weapons systems aren't okay, but those that are more precise require greater tuning. Those that are a little more, the bigger it is, the more materials needed to contain whatever it is you're doing, either as the projectile itself in a rocket. It has to be well built or it's really embarrassing when it keeps killing operators and nobody has any confidence and then they decide not to use it. Okay? But it still comes down to, again, well, depending on the situation, would I use an Air 15? Oh, if I got a pilotman in front of me and I was, you know, in a situation on my own, I'd dump the first 75 or 100-round mag into the biggest volume-fired gun I've got and you just dump everything downrange. In fact, Why not? In other words, there's no sense in going with them. If they've shown up en masse, then they're planning on taking you away and murdering you for the rest of your life's time. So you might as well take theirs. And let me give you an example of this. Well, I don't want to get into this yet. I want to talk about this, but I want to wait for a second. We've got a caller. What was the comment that we had? Go ahead. Hey, Mark. Hi, Mark. First of all, how are you gentlemen doing this evening? Sure, sir. Thank you. I was at the first hall room to say that I've been listening to you for years and I've learned a lot. I used to be an AR fan, 556. I used to be a Glock fan and 9mm. And then I really started listening to your points and the advantages versus the disadvantages. So I went ahead and I think I called you a couple days ago. I just ordered a PTR. It's absolutely gorgeous rifle. So thank you for that recommendation by the way. When I was at the gun show, so I put my AR-15s into my 510 program and I'm thinking about doing that with my Glocks. Now you just mentioned 1911s. I was looking at Glocks in 45 and 10 millimeter. When you were initially talking about your 1911, I was curious about which brand you had. Actually, the standard model I've been using for years is an actual Marine Corps seven digit, one pistol. If you're searching for comparison, look to your Rock Island for price comparison and look over at your I The first person I'm going to strip naked is the guys carrying the .40 caliber pistol. I'll take his gun. Why? If they send out a bunch of black uniform knuckle dragging punks and these punks are all puffed up like the SWAT teams, our county SWAT team are all pumped up, they're going to come out and kill all of us and murderlate all of us, first of all we know what they carry. I wouldn't buy .40 cal because I don't need to. When the time comes, they're going to be on enemy corpses. I mean, so you see, you don't need a .40 Magnum. No, no, I understand. The 10... See, here's the thing. The 45 is pretty common. The 1911, 45, and any 45. Because he just said Glock 45s. Glock made a .45 because .45 is so dominant in the United States. The one good thing about .45 ACP is you are going to find it pretty much everywhere. That's what I plan to actually get to this next purchase. But I've noticed that you kind of don't like Glock, essentially. I don't know if it's... It's only because I was there for them. ...plastic. But I know that you watch the Iraq veteran. YouTube of videos and he had an ultimate Glock meltdown. That to me proved that it was reliable. However, that was only in 9mm. It was the anemic cartridge that he'd been preaching upon. So would they be less reliable? in like a 45 or is it just like a high pressure issue? Well no, no, it's the thing about the Glock is that no matter what it can't take any, if I have, if I pick up a gun, can I take any ammunition off any corpse and put it in my Glock? I can't be sure of that because I don't know what, you know, in other words if I have to or not just take off a corpse. Let's say I've got an ally. I go through an area and Donna's got a militia unit and they want to support me. What I have to do as an armorer is ask you, do you have a Glock? Why do I have to? No, no, I'm saying if I were the armorer and I'm in charge of a supply unit right now and I've got to deal with troops, I can't give you the stuff I can use in my other 9mm. Some of my knives, I reload stuff and Americans traditionally reloaded hot. We have ratcheted back our loads at the factory to make up for the anemic pistols that have come in from Europe. It's a slightly longer brass case, right? Well, it can be brass case. I prefer nickel case whenever I can get it. Nickel brass case will last forever. I mean, it's literally going to be a reloadable heaven cartridge. It's a straight shoulder. There's not a built-in failure of a slanted shoulder. Slanted shoulders fail over time. faster than a photo. Whereas if I pick up a 1911 or I get a Brownie high power, it's like, I don't care what round it is, I can shovel it into the magazine and you know what, I'm not even thinking twice. I may get a different bite, in other words, if it's a hotter load, I'll notice it sometimes, maybe not if I'm really... Oh, you don't want the custom loading, like reloading. I'm talking about the loading. Not just reloading. No, no, a lot of the government, a lot of the American loads were actually hotter and that's why they came up with gap, right? Okay, Glock automatic pistol, 45 gap. In reality the gap round is to accommodate or to try and get people sliding towards this other ammunition because, well, the Glocks had problems with all their calibers blowing up. Really? I was there for that. How long ago? This is back in the 90s when the Glocks came in. We always question. You're never going to get an answer from the manufacturer. Never. Because I feel it was two things. Either a gross miscalculation and something having to do with production or industrial sabotage. Because it was all with the barrels. Now Glock makes their own barrels. They don't subcontract that we know of. And what happened is nines, 40 cals, and the 45s, the fact that two 45s have failed, one of them was with a guy I personally know, he's right here in one county away, we're at the range, he bought it brand new, pulled it out of the box, loaded it up, and our policy is never to fire a gun without doing a function test, which is to take the gun and lay it off to the side of you and make sure you're pointing at an impact area and fire. See what it does. Well he brought it up to his face, he goes, what am I thinking about? And he slid the gun sideways and pulled the trigger. Well, there was a violent jerk in his hand and he ended up holding the magazine and the pistol grip and the whole front of the frame was blown out the front. The slide went by the back of his head and ended up behind him about 15 feet. Now, we don't know why. Here's what happened immediately. Now, this is a brand new Glock out of the box, 45 ACP. We want that gun now. Now, what's interesting is there was a Guns N Ammo article which everybody's told to ignore now and I don't know if anybody's even put it up on the internet. But there was a Guns N Ammo article about this and the pistol you see in the Guns N Ammo article, the 145, is the 145 I'm talking about. And here's the thing, with standard load ammo or whatever it is, it should have just run like a singer's sewing machine. But here's the thing that tells me it was something special. I'm not telling you this happens all the time to Glocks. Something happened at the factory somewhere, somehow, but it wasn't one barrel. It was 9mm, .40 caliber, and .45. And it was the system itself that failed. The frame certainly ruptured, in most cases the frame ruptured because of this. You ended up holding a pistol grip and the magazine is what you ended up with. Had you put the weapon to your face, and some people did get a little pokey boo or got a good gouging and no gacking ahead, The slide comes back and meets you and it's the metal part. You see? Good thing is it's flat in the back. At least it doesn't have like that stirrup or a sub-devil to the back like many automatics do. So it's not as likely to maybe poke-boo you as much. We're still going to look like hell. So you sold me on that advice Glock versus 1911. I don't know what the mags are running on 1911's but I want to know Which American brand is is the most reliable that's not pretty much all no no no no $2,500 yeah, they're pretty much all If you start looking at $2,000 a gun if you were gonna spend that kind of money Oh hell yeah, well you're looking you're looking at three four hundred dollars in fact I have any okay. I haven't looked right now hold on here. Let me do something Center fire systems is cool because they typically have The Rock Island's that Don was just talking about. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, Rock Island are a base gun. Okay, so let's see what the Centerfire is asking right now because I know they're hanging around $400. Rock Island is a contract on that means a blueprint gun. That means you can take a part out of it. Springfield or a Colt and interchange them one to the other. It's a contract gun. That's what you want to look for if you're looking for a 1911. Unless you want to run up to like, you know, if you look at the entry level guns, Rock Island like the Nova. If you want to go up to, well, a big block Chevelle, start looking at the Kimbers. Okay, yeah, Kimber, that's the... Kimber's your welcome, right? I thought it was like Taiwan or something for like some reason. Anyway, gentlemen, I am so sorry for taking a few times. I love what you guys are talking about today. But my manager is calling me. Go, take it or work. Don't worry about it. Can I have six plane? Go, go, go. Keep on keeping on, brothers. And amen. And God bless both of you. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Gosh, stay at work. Don't get in trouble. I'll be right back. I will. All right, I will. Yes. I think we got fluffy in it. What's going on? What do we got? Yes. What do you got? You said Big Blood Shaville. I'm thinking more like a blown himmy, like a Dan Wesson. Charlie Brown guns are good too. Blowing! They're people that take that contract gun, do this, that, and the other thing. Much like the difference between the basic gun and the Model 70. Oh yeah. Which is a nice handy little thing to own if you want to start sending big hunks of lead to 50 and 100 yards. Let me give an example here. There are a couple of directions. I just noticed that they've offered something that they haven't before. They've got these EAA 45 ACP model SAR, SAR K2s, 14 round mag and 45 ACP. Now that's a big, long-kid magazine, but I assume they might have gone with one of the already existing, like, para-ordinates mags. Although you never know, it could be anything. They sure have. Now, let's see what they have. $370 for an out-of-the-box, staggered magazine. Every time I've read these, I've never been able to find out who the hell made them. But let's see if we can figure this out. Because I'm guaranteeing Turkey, Italy, where? The Philippines. The Philippines? EAA 45 ACP models. S.A.R. Have been listed as being made in Italy. They're Italian. They're nice guns. Okay, well they looked at it. See that's what I was saying. Italy or like Turkey. Turkey is making just knockoffs everybody else's guns. It's got an Italian flavor, you know, line to it that is typical for what they prefer because you can see the Beretta influence. That's what it's curious. So it makes sense. So it says SAR 2 and 45 ACP $370. You want to experiment? The only thing is, magazines are going to be orphaned. Slash until you figure out what they take. And if firing pin extractor and ejector, you'd have to buy it right away because you don't know when this gun is going to get canceled. OK? Hey, guys. Go ahead, caller. Who do we have? ESBC. Hey, look, real quick while we're on the Rock Island, I've got the Citadel 3 and 1 half inch. And out of the box, that puppy is downright solid. Ran a box of shells through it right out of the box, more or less, once I cleaned it. It's everything you want, I'm telling you. And the mags that come with it are act mags, and they're the same quality as Mechar. And they're wonderful guns. This is the thing is that they're also interchangeable with pretty much anything you're going to run into out there because they're a 1911 pattern gun again. As long as they're a pattern gun, you know, it's a personal choice thing. The only thing I thought would be rather fun is take that little chubby stubby and put a big long slide on it. Just scare the shit out of it. Oh, excuse me. Scare the hell out of it. Yeah, look at long slide 7. Long slide what tiny bunny? What the hell is that? You know, only because it would be kind of cool. But again, it's a The crop guns especially for personal carry which is again putting one around on the target just carry more mags. That's the most important thing I am a firm believer in no matter what gun. I don't care if you had a 9mm or a 17 shot, two more mags at least and ideally for me I'm a maggophobe. I carry mags everywhere. When I used to work in Detroit I carried mags. I had mags stuffed every place. I had mags in any bag, any carrier, mag just a mag here, mag there. Why? Because they were $2 apiece for the .45. In fact, they used to be less than that for the longest time for a government model in the rapper. We're $1.25 apiece, so why did you not have hundreds of mags? The neat thing about the Citadel is it comes with a Parkerized finish. It comes with a combat Novak type style sights. I mean, it's all tricked out. It's their top of the line. The Citadel is Rock Isle version of the Springfield loaded. I mean, it's everything you want it to be. And as a matter of fact, the reason I got the three and a half is because it's my everyday carry. And I carry three extra mag with me too. Yep. So anyway, let me get back to sanding some wood. Good to hear you guys. Yeah, I only carry one extra mag, but I can't get the 14 round throw ordinance. I carry a 35 rounder and beat the hell out of them with a just for the fun of it. Oh yeah. A 35 round straight mag. I have two of those. They are what was it 26 inches long? I don't know. You used to be able to get them back in the 70s guys. They are remakes of the World War I aircraft mags that they made for the pilots. Anybody ever see those? I haven't seen one. Yeah. For a while once they started making those somebody made one just a hair longer and it's like I don't know if it worked or didn't work but it was like hmm that's unique to say the least. Where's that summer gun by the way? Where is it? SAA 45? If you go to CenterfireSystems.com, they actually have the best price that I've seen on this gun. It just popped up because I went to 45 to see what Rock Islands are running about 435 for a commander slide and 440 for a standard slide right now on 45 ACP, both with black matte finish. go to handguns and go to 45 ACP caliber handguns, you know when it says select a caliber. If you slide down it will be on the second line. On the right hand side it is the EAA-45 model FARK-2. Again it has more of the Italian line to it or the Swiss Sig pistol. except for the couple of knocks and bends and turns. And that's all arbitrary. As far as I'm concerned, some of these guns, they could just slide. I mean, I'm granted they're trying to lose some weight here and there, but a lot of the machining is done isn't even necessary. They can just leave it straight, just to slab it out, which is what the Swiss did for simplification with several other pistols. They just said, no, we don't need to put any divots in the slide. We don't need to put any divots in the frame. Let's just make her flatten. Just simple, straightforward, cut and plane. There you go. All done. Along that line of simple, you know, when Berlin was being overrun, Hitler promised the Volkskorps, you know, the People's Army, a brand new wonder weapon. Mark, were they first to the table with a RPG style. You know the weapon I'm talking about. They gave this to old women and little boys and they contacted them to walk out and kill a Russian tank. Panzerfoss. The Panzerfoss was out there in force before Berlin, but by the time of Berlin, the RPG II, which the Russians stole the Panzerfoss II from the Germans, needless to say, everybody stole stuff from the Germans at the end of the war. and uh... they've made the rpg to which really was the only in the rpg to is a recall a list what i brought this up this morning every go to talk to prepare a grenade no it's recoilless propelled grenade rpgs they gave it to all ladies and little ball anybody could fire yeah it has been doing thing is i would plant see this with the but people don't think about your spirit of guns and then they see people take this thing and go, that's really cool. Well, when you take that launcher, that is a recoilless system. What makes a recoilless system work is that you're using a thick wall, seamless, high grade steel tube. and you're activating a charge and it's an explosive charge like a stick of dynamite going off next to your head. But because the pipe is not restricted, in other words there's no breach. Like with an artillery gun, you load the shell, you close the breach, you pull the trigger and there's this long recoil because the mechanism has a set of shock absorbers. to reduce the recoil, keep the gun tube on the carriage so you can do it again. But with a recoilless gun you don't have to a recoilless weapon of any kind, even though now recoilless rifles that you're familiar with like the 57, the 57 is what they started with, they went to 75, then they went to the 90s, then they went to the, in fact there's also a 76.2 gun in there somewhere. But the, uh, in, in we're coiless. And then there's the, there's the 90, then the 106. And the 106 is the, the, the only thing bigger, really anybody, well, the Russians made bigger, hell they made bigger everything. But the British wombat was bigger still. The wombat was in service and it was an even better tank killer in several ways, but it was a beast. His rifle goes. Carried on several APCs or carried on Jeeps much the way we did the 106. Now, here's the thing, the recoilless gun works this way. You have a charge, and when you activate the charge, half the charge goes out the back, and in fact it's more like 5'8", to be quite honest. But all of the energy that is not used goes out the rear of the tube, while the back of whatever it is that you have in the tube is slapped, and it's pushed out the tube at high velocity, and it goes down range, and it visits a target, and if there's a warhead, it goes boom. Now, in reality, it's a solid rod. This is the thing about this. It's like a solid rod piece of metal that sticks in the end of the tube. When you see them load an RPG, you'll notice that there's that, it looks like, what is that? It's like fuzzy, foamy, or clay stuff. There's something on the end of the round, and it's wrapped in kind of plastic, and it actually is, oh, that's the charge. If you want, take a look at a real RPG, not movie versions, but a real RPG, how it's loaded, what to do. Go to the Ukraine War. Go over to these videos, guys. You get really great close-ups, lots of great training videos because you get to see them use the stuff live. And you'll see how things are loaded, and you'll find out that they don't last forever, and the chains do run out, and the magazines do run out, and then you've got to reload. And when you fire around, you've got to get another one back in there if it's a big gun. Well, if you really are going to think about capturing stuff like this, it would be kind of nice to know how to use stuff like this, right? Well, guess what? Combat experience personnel under fire, it's really great to see how they have to deal with that. And you don't have to get your butt blown off to watch them do it because they've been videotaping and doing all this stuff in the forward areas where they're actually using the weapons. Now the RPG, what it does, with the RPG-2, it's a pure recoilless. Here's where the confusion lies, because the RPG-7 was the next big push up that was committed to in massive numbers. The RPG-7 is a recoilless rocket assist. Now what do we mean by that? Well, when you take that tube and you put it up to your head, and you pull the trigger, which by the way you're going to hear a, WOOO! What? Well, the difference between the RPG-II and the RPG-III is the RPG-II is concussive activated. There's a hammer. You cock the hammer, you pull the trigger, you cock. Boom! With the RPG-VII, you have a magneto. Some people have bought flashlights, you know, where you do that squeezy thing and go, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, shooting a little power down range to that blasting cap that sets off the charge that makes the RPG-7 around go boom! And it goes down range. OK, now when it sails down range and gets off to so many hundreds of yards, all of a sudden the time fuse activates and whoosh! The rocket kicks in and now you have something that reaches out to well over a couple thousand some odd yards. Well, so many meters. The idea is also, it sets a third step in motion. The idea behind using a weapon system is to help it to contribute to the din of the battlefield. You want everything to do what it was supposed to do. Maybe it doesn't hit where it's supposed to, but you know what? It really bothers everybody when explosive things go off everywhere. So, the RPG-7 in its final phase has a fuse activating system and it self-detonates no matter what. How many of you knew that? Oh, in other words, if I just launch it, I don't have to worry about who's down range, I'll just fire and forget and it'll drop somewhere and oh yeah, right. No, in fact in Afghanistan, they got really good at shooting down helicopters with RPGs. Why? Well, if they were lucky and they were in line of sight, you know, and they could, you know, what they would do is wait and let the Russians get in close, then they'd pop up and they would guesstimate because they had spotters, they would guesstimate range, they would use little walkie-talkies or hand signals. The guy would pop up, he would fire. Now, the rocket assist would put it out at a pretty good range, so you had good range to engage the target. If you hit it with the rocket, it worked like an anti-tank gun. Now, anti-tank ground, it would do horrible damage to whatever it hit, and it would go through any armor that was on board the helicopter. Okay, they don't want you to know about that. However, if it missed, it still, if you were within the optimal sphere of activity, or maybe the helicopter veered away from you. Well, as it veered away, your little rocket follows. It's not a tracking rocket. It's just if they happen to be in the ballpark, and the auto fuse activates, and now you have a shrapnel charge like on an 88. Wow, you get everything out of this shell, don't you? And in many cases, that fragmentation is enough to bring that helicopter down. Remember the fragmentation is first traveling the velocity of the rocket. Second, now you've exploded something, which means 26,000 plus feet per second. And now certainly its gravity sucks and wear velocity, resistance and all that. Doesn't make any difference. You still have this plume of explosive debris. This material is traveling at thousands of feet per second. Shreds aluminum, tears up small parts, messes up antennas. No matter what, it did damage. So the RPG is, that's why they call it a very egalitarian weapon. It is. Anybody can use it, just like you said Don, you can put Grandma behind, you know, put it on Grandma's shoulder and tell her, Grandma, you remember we taught you? Yeah, I must paying attention. Okay, well when you see it and do it does what it does, you do what you do. Okay. And you can walk away and all grandma has to do is get it up into the ready position, put the crosshairs on the target, pull the trigger, well in this case gradient slope targeting system. And if she does what she's supposed to do, it's causing a whole lot of heartburn for whoever's on the other end when it comes down range. It would be good to offer Grandma some foot soldier support afterwards so she can exfiltrate the area and do it again. Because we want that reloadable launcher preserved. Because we love our grandmothers. That's right. And besides, she did such a good job of making burning wreckage of whatever the hell it was she was aiming for there. See, the whole point is, all these heavy weapons especially, the mid-shoulder weapons, which are actually light weapons, remember in the big battlefield there's bigger still that can be thrown both ways. but all that will do van damage to everybody. Okay, anything. When everybody says, well that won't knock out, well guys you don't necessarily need to knock something out. Let me point out again about armor. Between 50 caliber guns and RPGs and remember the laws rocket has now been re-embraced. Everybody you were all told, oh yeah, stupid old obsolete laws rocket. We're getting rid of that. We're gonna get the Viper. Well obviously the Viper is too stinking pricey and too stinking big because the US government just contracted a foreign power to build us millions of laws rockets. You mean that obsolete thing that you're all told and laughed at when Mark said perhaps you should know how to use the law's rocket? Remember I mentioned this many times on the air, you should know how to use the law's rocket? You should know how to use the law's rocket. Why would you want to do that? It's obsolete. I know there were peckerwoods open in their face on that. Except that, you see, they were never retired overseas. But guess what? Now the US government's buying a whole pile of them. Well, I guess maybe it would have been a good idea to kind of keep up the speed on the laws rocket. So when you have it in a manual, you see it's because since the weapons already been developed and the skills and the proficiency are already there, we're written down and recorded so you have an idea what to do, it doesn't hurt to look at it because lots of governments build copies of our stuff. In fact, they're not just building copies. They're building it on our factory production that was stolen because of NAFTA and GAP. That's what's happening with this laws rocket project. Where were those Tomahawks built? Yeah. And cruise missiles. Yeah, exactly. Oh, that's right. By the time they were done, they got it pulled out of country under contract. And then by the time they're done, we're not building them here, we're just buying theirs. Wow, your tax dollars at work. And we spend trillions of dollars and have 9 trillion missing from the Federal Reserve and 6 trillion missing from the Department of Defense. Boy, those oi boy kosher pieces of trash are just flat out thieves, aren't they? That's the greater portion of the national debt, isn't it? Yeah, hell yeah, you get rid of those punks, you find every one of these criminals and put a bullet in their arse, and you know what? All of a sudden we'd have balanced books. Isn't that amazing? And I'm laughing, I still, this morning, I'll say the same thing. You know, I took every bookkeeping class I could because I never had study hall. I didn't believe in the study hall thing, and I always had to get an override on that and permission slips and blah blah blah. And I took every bookkeeping class. It was when I got into bookkeeping a little bit. And I get nauseous whenever I think about doing people's taxes. I mean, I really do. I would never do that ever again. But just the idea that somebody can walk up. We would have a whole system stop for the day if we were off by $2 or $3 for bookkeeping for Amber Bank and Trust. I used to work in Proof and Computer. If we were off by a little, like $2.78, well, where the hell did that go wrong? for a day. And we were dealing in $100 million in checks and money orders. God knows what was going back and forth. You could have a check for $1 million right next to a $0.90 check going through proof. And that's how bookkeeping is. It's like, oh, me? Numbers are back and forth. All you do is slide the dot in the commas. That's all you're doing. Slide dot commas. OK, here we go. That one, that one, that one, that one, that one here. Proof found. And what's the final? Oh, look. Take number one matches with accounting registry number two on the proof machine. Congratulations. Thumbs up. We did it. And these people are telling us that they are missing this year $9 trillion off the books just with the Federal Reserve. $9 trillion. Somebody's ass needs to be hunted down, arrested, and executed. But the Department of Defense is in the same situation pulling the same scam. And by the way, there are people that that's all they do is bookkeeping that approved this because we have an accounting office, but we also have an inspector general's office for each of these different elements. And the inspector general's office is the one that knows beyond a shadow of a doubt. The proof inspectors know. Any of you people who own a, who have a gun store, or you know, government license to sell guns, or even a private license to own a automatic weapon like you know class 3. If you don't cross your T's and dot your I's in the paperwork, when the ATF comes to check on things, they'll close you down. I bring that as an example. You better not do it, you better, but we can. But you better not do it. But they're getting away with murder. Yep. And it is. Now real quick, a couple of things here too. We went away from what I originally, the question I've always had is what would you carry? Now my personal. It depends on what it is. I've carried an AR-15, an M16 type weapon many, many times. I could operate it in my sleep. If I couldn't grab the Garand, of course, and I needed more firepower, or if I decided, hmm, it looks like there's really a lot of them that need to die. It's the Garand of the M1A for me. Now, let me point something out for me, because our caller just got a PTR-91, and I wouldn't steer him away from that at all right now. You want to know why? Master that rifle. Why? It's a .308 rifle. It takes cheap mags. The big thing is cheap mags. I cannot emphasize enough, certain guns are now not cheap. That's why you hear us when we talked about them four years ago, but we don't talk about them now. A Russian made Sega rifle was the next best thing, the sliced white bread, and I tried to tell you when they were under $200, buy the hell out of them. But now that they're the same price or more expensive than any other regular AK because everybody's figured out, oh wait a minute, they really are Russian AKs. Well, yeah, but they were right from the beginning, but everybody poo-pooed them until everybody started selling the snot out of them. And then the Russians started charging more once they were coming back in because they realized, oh, they're moving. So the introductory or the early age price disappeared. OK? Well right now the PTR-91, although it's got price creep going on too, everybody does. I don't care what it is. The only thing that's holding its own for the time being, and everybody's had conversations on this, is the AR-15 production, which is why the AR-15 is the glidiest right now. It's the standard Centurion sword that you'll have lots of, and they'll be all over the place. The big thing is more ammo, more ammo, reloading, reloading, reloading. But Mark, I can buy lots of cheap ammo. What's the scam? What do they keep trying to push that, you know, like all these BS programs in their way? They're all run by the CIA, which you had revolution, which had to do with the, you know, all the power went off. And then everybody kept shooting and nobody knew how to reload, don't you know? And all, everybody ran on ammo and so all the rifles got parked and everything. Really? Only because you have to be a complete Nimrod slash idiot. Chemistry came before electronics. Does everybody remember that? Steam power came before electronics. The Industrial Age was based on steam power without electronics. Does everybody understand that? The age of smokeless powder came before the age of electricity. Does everybody remember that? We did not need electricity to develop the fine art of smokeless powder and perfect rifle powders that took us into or has taken us into the 21st century from the 19th through the 20th. all came from the pre-electronic age, but they don't want you to think about that. Like I was saying before, they've got to get your brain in the idea that if it doesn't work off the present system where you have to buy from the regime, and you have to operate from the regime standards, you just can't do that! But what if you don't commit to any of their nonsense and actually start thinking things through? It's like the Internet. People talking about the Internet being taken over. Let me ask you, where did the Internet come from? Okay, guys, where did the Internet come from? Al Gore? Yeah, right. It was made by all of the little guys. Everybody out there building parts of it and it could be done just as easily again, but here's the problem. People get lazy. And right now our people are really lazy because otherwise it was dynamic. When we grew up, where did all this computer garbage come from? Where did the Gates character come from? All of these. They were garage operators, guys. They always bragged that up in a little garage in Sbarguktaville. Here he was with his fingers being burned at the tip of his father. Things together and he scrolled this and he hammered that and he made a clock and spoke in Wiederreichten. And he plugged it in and the lights blued. He was making it in home, yeah, and they built the first ones as kids and they sold them and then they bought some other kids and then they talked to manufacturers and they made it all on their own. Now how is it that he could do that but Americans have decided that they can't? And he's not the only one. All of the technology you're using guys came from people who built it themselves first. So why is it we're all, granted I understand the convenience of the internet, but the internet can be just as convenient being called something else and being built to another standard. And then all of a sudden what do they do? Go ahead, we got a caller. What do we got? We got cans out here. Hey, on those laws, there's two Phillips screws in the very back where the detonator is. You take that out and you can reload them. All the cubs of those rounds. Well, that's yes. There was a subcaliber device which actually had a, the unit was about the size of a good Cuban cigar, the rocket was, and it would punch through one inch of steel. Oh! How do I know that? Because what they used to roll out there is three-quarter inch and one inch steel panels for the subcaliber training targets that we used to roll over at Custer. Okay. So that little subcaliber rocket, even though it performs, if you use the standard loss tube and you have the training insert, you can reload it constantly and reuse the capacitor that's on board many, many, many times. And what you have is a micro loss rocket. There's not a capacitor on board. The sine pin releases. You're engaging the activator, that small little square block has a rod attached to it, you'll pull that. They had a big problem when that's where they got a lot of people killed when they were ill prepared for the tropical. From that little plastic... The insert model that I'm saying, the insert model you're talking about, the E and D models, the insert has an electronic activator because they had to keep reusing it. Now, the first model insert is all one... for everybody who wonders what we're talking about, imagine a laws rocket is a full size, the dimension of the tube of that fiberglass carrier, okay, the plastic carrier. When you fire that, the rocket goes down range, now you have a big hollow tube. Now, you have a reusable tube if you want to, but they're designed to be thrown away and you're supposed to crush them because the Vietnamese would reload these. Okay, that's what they would do, they'd find rockets that didn't work. They would find tubes that were left behind, go get the rockets, go get the tubes, rework them, and re-fire them. But what the military did is they wouldn't, only one man in a company typically would fire a live Loz rocket because they didn't want to spend the money. So the solution was come up with a less expensive idea. They would be reloadable. It was a complete fixture. The first model is actually like a Skeletos tube. They have two cylinders, front and rear, that are just like big O rings. with a frame and then inside that there's three points of contact that come to the middle and there was a tube the diameter of the sub-calzer rocket. You insert all of that and there was a capacitor pack where your striker system is and that what that did that activated that was activating the cap because that way you didn't hit the what the concussive strike point did was hit the button so to speak. Yeah, okay. That was the reloads. That's what I thought you were talking about. The reloads are, there are three versions. The original was more complicated because you had to literally deactivate the contact primer and then reload that. And there was a priming system for that. They had a whole kit for that. They decided that was too much work because, well hell, by the time you're done reloading, you're almost done with a day's program. So, you'd have to do it in advance. You'd prep them over in the armory. So what they did is they came up with an electronic capacitor firing system, which is very simple, very crude. There's nothing fancy about it. And the neat thing is you can actually reload the training system the same as you would a 3.5 inch rocket launcher slash a bazooka. The units are about the size of the cigar. They have a couple of little stand-off kits, all four points of the compass, so that they allow it to slide uniformly down the tube without abrasing or skewing onto target. And the little venturi is about the size of your thumbnail at the base of the rocket. It's solid fuel. But it's a neat idea. If we were going to come up with anything it would be cheaper to do that. The interesting thing is that little rocket would punch through three quarters of an inch to an inch of steel. Now that wouldn't be probably homogeneous armor, that was just soft steel, but I wouldn't want to be in a light truck or anything when it hits. Would an HESTIS model rocket engine push that? It not, well yeah, it could. But really you're better off doing this creating an element C or element D type compound and repacking the rocket. Okay. The rocket fuel is pretty simple and straightforward. In fact, you could take the elements from many Estes, but that's a lot of work. In fact, the formula is really straightforward. There are private rocket clubs all over the country and they share the information because they do, of course, the government always wants to know where everybody is doing that, I'm sure. So they probably are running the clubs, who knows? The thing about solid fuels is it has to be uniform because when you get spikes in it, it the next layer and then you get another spike and then you get theories that creates the failure. You can't do it in steps. It has to be all one packing. And again, what you do is when you mix the compound, you have to make sure that whatever you're using for a spatula and a tamp, that you are consistent, so you have to be very patient. If you're going through it step by step, you repeat the process so that the chamber avoids what Don's talking about. Everything is compressed together. And again, you don't jam it like you're trying to impact cement. But what you want is a consistent base. And then you integrate the next batch that you introduce, and you make sure it's tamped into place until you load to whatever your spec is. And you may need what is called, or you may either do it to the rear or you do it to the front with a channel for burn. You need a filler material because you only need so much. You only need so much for propellant. And depending on the propellant you choose, you may not need even the same volume that was originally intended for the fire chamber that goes to the Venturi. Use zinc and zinc and sulfur. Test these rockets and put a nail up the nozzle and then tamp in the zinc and sulfur mixture. And it'll work. Exactly. Well, the thing about this again, well, we're getting off at an angle for a little bit here. We're almost to the top. Okay, let's do this. Oh, that's okay. This was useful. No, because again, there's stuff laying around, guys. A lot of guardsmen brought those subcaliber devices home. A lot of guardsmen carried this stuff away. The reservist guardsmen active it because nobody cared. There were piles and tons of it. And the stuff was typically thrown out. Even the subcaliber devices, when they started getting rid of the laws, a lot of that stuff just went sideways out the door as in kicked to the dumpster. And then sometime during the evening somebody came up and said, hey, look what's in the dumpster. And all of that went home. And they're not, it's just simply a sub, like I said, it's a subcaliber version of the big one. So it would have an effect. And I really wouldn't want to guess if somebody is launching something downrange. Well, I wonder what that is. Boom! After you see the first one do what it does. If you didn't know and you were going to be stupid for a minute, once the first one impacted, you'd figure out that it would probably be a good idea to take cover after that. I bet it would take out one of those black Suburbans with no problem. Oh yeah, no, as far as they go, I would go through pretty much everything and anything they've got on board. Yeah, it wouldn't have anywhere to go. That's the whole point. These things are awfully handy. There's a number of tricks to move. You could mount them in gang form. You wouldn't necessarily have them in the laws rocket tube. It's just the advantage was the laws rocket tube is what they were established for. You have a triggering system, a sighting system, so you don't have to guess. But if you want to make a little mini multiple rocket launcher that you could do like a gang pack and then put a sighting system on that, oh I wouldn't want to be down range. It's like a 20 millimeter Swiss Recoilless. Yeah. Because the Swiss built that. They built a 20 millimeter Recoilless. It's the smallest Recoilless I believe it was ever built. Anyway, whoa dudes! We are at the top down. Can you stick around? You gotta go. I've got a cold, but I'll remind you that 20 millimeters took the fall into what they call cannon caliber. Yep. And we are going to be back here in a few minutes, but meanwhile, download number for night vision on the web page. 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