October 5, 2016
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1h 10m
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2016
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Mark Koernke discussed night vision and thermal imaging technology for firearms, covering first and second generation night vision devices, thermal imaging capabilities, and practical applications for AR-15s and .50 caliber rifles. He extensively analyzed historical firearm development, comparing the effectiveness of various pistol calibers from the Boxer Rebellion and Philippine Insurrection through modern ammunition selection. The show emphasized weapons preparation, tactical doctrine for defensive situations, and the importance of testing ammunition reliability in personal firearms before relying on it in critical situations.
- night vision
- thermal imaging
- ar-15
- ar-10
- .308 rifle
- .50 caliber
- 1911 pistol
- .45 acp
- 9mm
- ammunition testing
- preparedness
- tactical doctrine
- weapons systems
- ballistics
- philippine insurrection
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Ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to us on... indianafreedomtalkradio.com we're on AF and FM microstations CB, base stations, ultra, net hallmark and golden spike technologies east and west of the mississippi along with alaska don what's today today what's jumping off the wall what's the liking of the woods and please i want to open up with night vision slapping down an AR-15 we can both go night or we can go thermal describe what's available and how quick we could actually mount it on that gun go ahead thank you mark hey it is the uh fifth dead and 16. All of that, you know 1911 in one hand, empty magazine well, full magazine in the other hand, we just solve that prop, put one in the chamber, and man, that's a hot gun. That's a condition one gun, but I can tell you it's mine, I'm not going to have to prove it to you, but hey, it is weapons one say. The perimeter needs some attention, and hey, if you pay some attention to that reloader, and you keep pulling on that lever, eventually you can say, as I do on occasion, there's plenty more where that came from. off the magazine and put it back in the magazine. We can offer equal opportunity and resistance, which is a good thing. It's good to have the handgun at hand. That phrase goes hand in hand, doesn't it? I'm not trying to be redundant with the use of the word, but give me a hand for that phrase there. It's always good to have the handgun ready to jump to your hand. many, many times. If this one can't be had, well there should be another one. While you're cleaning this one, there should be another one right there functional, right? No. The oddity of handguns, we could talk about for a moment and use this as a, hey, we're done with putting a stamp, a handgun night vision. It was a pretty cool piece and well that screen that you looked at was two inches across. If you were to bring that up to your eye, well it was a much bigger screen than a lot of rifle scopes. better than two inches away when you held it at arm's length it was you could still make out what was in front of it you know it didn't get so small because the picture was big enough that well you could hold that dinky little piece of a television two inches away and you could target with it and it was meant to go on your handgun and well if you had a could put a rail on the top of your handgun you could put this on top of it the problem with night vision for your handgun and all that devices pretty far away from your face isn't it and well if it's If it's in low light, it's going to light up a little more to run that automatic brightness control. You'll have your shoulders lit and a little dim kind of circle up underneath your chin and down under your chest. Your whole face will be green like a goblin. See that? You just want to shoot at it even if you aren't shooting it now. That's an extreme example of what we've called wash. That's with the green stuff on your face. The green light that came out of that. I'm pretty sure they called it the falcon. Well, one could imagine if you thought, oh, that sounds like a good idea, and then when you get into the field with it and someone says, like, curly, oh, look, hand a gun to me and watch this. Now you hand a gun to your friend back and he brings a gun up to a shooting position in front of his face. And his top shoulders and his chest and his face are all lit with that green, midnight, you know, vision green. That handgun piece of night vision didn't stay long in the market. We've talked about, well you could put it on a shotgun and there's a number of devices you could put on a shotgun. It only shortens if it's just forward enough to, well, the device off of your forehead or the bridge of your nose or your cheek during recoil. There'd be a minimum amount of wash there, you know, the green light that comes out of the night vision device. Now, that would be a good application for that, but then again, your eye would be pretty close to it. I would hope that it would be able to focus that close to that when it's meant to be viewed in an arm's length, so to speak. But again, those are almost collector items. There are just a few of them out there. Look, that's a green screen device, you guys. Green screen has been around a long time. First, second, third, most of the time when the green screen first came to America, kind of available. It was either a PVS2 or it was a Russian handheld. The first Russian stuff that came here had 12 lines per millimeter and that's pretty fuzzy, no matter how good your eye or how well you focus it. It's a pretty fuzzy image. A quick up to about 22, 24 doubling it. And well, eventually the first generation up to 29 to 32, which was in the PDS2, an American device. And the Russians even surpassed that up to 42, 43 to 45 lines per millimeter in a first generation device. The time they got there they started calling that Super Nouration Plus when they were marketing it here in America. We saw that back in 1997 or so. It's drying up. Most of the first generation you'll see now will have that stamped into the plastic side of the device made in Israel. You know, heat stamped after the device has been made. It wasn't in the original mold. You can tell from the poor quality of the alteration of the original device. It's stamped in with heat. It's not in the original mold. So, unless someone's got a great store of first generation that they're going to break out, we aren't going to hardly see first generation anymore. Unless the Chinese decide to start selling it to us from the factory that the Russians built for them back before the turn of the century, the turn of the previous decade, the turn of the past millennium. And this is why I fill that gap with digital. The company fills that gap. My biggest source fills that gap with digital now. It's basically an alteration of camera technology and it works. You can use it in the daytime, which is something you can't say steadily for the green screen. You want to turn it on and use it for a little while and then you want to turn it off because, well, you don't want to overheat it. Now, into that thought line, we were shooting a piece of thermal over the weekend right in the middle of the day. The one thing you want to do there is if you're doing that, try to maintain that discipline so like when you put, if you leave the device on and you move with the gun even if it's just for a moment to stand up and walk over here and to a different place to aim from where you're going to instead of sitting or shooting prone you're going to move up to try not if you leave the device on try not to point it at the sun. Yeah that's not real good even for a thermal. But the device is warrantied for a good long time and the core is warrantied for 10 years, so well, you know, again, you don't want it. You have to have something in the mail and waiting for it to come back. So try not to point it. That piece of thermal that's entry level is right in the middle between the second generation gun sight and the third generation gun sight. And if you split that difference between that piece of thermal and the third generation gun sight, we almost have one right in the middle of that too. those pieces will live on top of your 50 caliber you guys. We've talked about that before. Now everything you see in the Thor category, if you go over to the website, you know the website ydtoe.us, that's most of the bottom of the, when you scroll down and scroll down and scroll past some other stuff and then some more stuff and past the third generation goggles and gun sights and monoculars and binoculars and while you're into the Thor stuff. All of that Thor is, it'll live on top of your 50 caliber. but not all of it will be, as example, suited for your 50 caliber. The top end Thor, the 5x50, I know that's a human being, we'll recognize a human being at 1500 meters. That's a constant, that's whether there's no moon or no moon. But that has its own parameters because, well, it depends on what's between you and it. Now, thermal's supposed to look through rain, although the handheld stuff exists, you want to reset it sooner. This cool, it just looks through the rain, it doesn't have any problem. The rain, the downward motion of those individual particles doesn't have any effect on the screen. For a while, with a hand-held or a gun sight, even with 30 or 60 cycles, it just looks like the screen is being washed with rain because it can't help but show you all of that motion going down over time, even though it's kind of like trying to ignore it. Now, we've talked about a couple of green screen gun sights over the years that you can stand out in the rain with. But the Thor, you can stand out in the rain with it. Something that's kind of what you would call, again, the 50 caliber. Go over to, I've been telling you, but I'm told that Thor recoil tests and that'll take you over to the site that you get to watch how they test the Thor's for recoil. It's just a sight of a very mean, two notches, very mean being two notches below brutal. But 3-4 gets that recoil test you guys. So you look at the way the body can be set up with a cyclic ray, a particular one or the other picture size, doubling the amount of pixels in the same area twice, making the picture twice as a s***. The body can be set up that way and then you can go with different lenses on the front from 19 to 25 to 50 to 100 millimeters. That device that will recognize a human being at 1500 millimeters, that's 100 millimeters. at 1500 meters, that's a 100 millimeter lens. When you go back to the 19 millimeter lens, you can work that to recognize a human being, I think at 180 or 220 yards, some could call it 200 yards. I know that that's a human being. If you move up from there, then you're starting to recognize a human being at the, what used to be the mench, oh, 340 meters, well, 300, the manufacturer calls that 400 yards now. you can recognize a human being with the 2 to 8 power. The initial first one mentioned is 1 1⁄4 to 5 power. But again, that's all .50 caliber capable, but you wouldn't really want to put that 1 1⁄2 to 5 power on your .50 because, well, again, that person continues to walk away. at four or five hundred yards they kind of walk out of your vision there they're no longer sensed by that that front lens doesn't send it any information that the tube that the device can make any sense of called the other day and was asking about that and I haven't talked to them since but that entry-level piece you guys at about 480 yards you won't see a car as example it's coming up the road you see the headlights and you know about how far that is to that car is right now where it is right now. I know how fast it's going or I can know where it is. That's uncertainty. But you get an idea where it is and you look through the device and you still don't see any heat from the car and you look through and you see the years. It's coming right at you. And at all I'm saying about 450 with the entry level with the one and a quarter to five power, you're stuck to see indicators of heat from a car that's coming at you. So that's an example of the limit of that size that 19mm front lens and the 30mm cyclic rate and I think it's a 420mm by a 288mm size screen pixel cone. Now you can double that and that makes your screen a lot finer which gives you a bit of text range but when you mix that with a bigger lens it makes a lot more sense because well that great big detection range when you get way out there you want to start throwing magnification on that too and when you twice the amount of when you double the amount of pixels on the screen you move that pixelating of the image that much farther away because this is being digitally amplified. We've talked about over well since the thermal's been out about well you can use it in the daytime much like well When there's no moon, even that third generation device, sometimes if you're walking into a canopy into a pine forest, you know, tall trees that are loaded, a canopy into a factory basement to be sure you're going to want to turn on that illuminator. And when you turn that on, the guy over there sitting in the corner patiently with no illuminator, he's going to know you're there. We've talked about that. That's a quick way to get to that description, right? Y'all, everybody knows. It's like walking around with a flashlight to another piece of night vision. He'll look through his other eye or he'll lower the device if it's a binocular style and he won't see any white light. He'll look back up again and confirm that he's seeing with that light. Know that he's seeing someone over there that's using a night vision device. He might not be able to see you because I remind you green screen focuses to the brightest image in its field of view. And if that, if you're one corner and this guy walks in through the door that's, you know, a kitty corner, you know, both of us. room 45 degrees across from you, all you will see is his illuminator because that's almost all it's going to be between your device and him. That's almost all that your device will see. It won't be deep down with light like that. Again, we can talk about the advantages of what this will do and what that won't do. We could go back over to the green screen and say, well, hey, you can read the words on that billboard. recognize rank on someone's sleeve if you're close enough or you know even their chest. If you're close enough and you know someone you can make out a face with thermal. But the green screen at 64 to like 75 lines per, you still have to be kind of close but you would be able to recognize a face sooner like from a picture unless it's another picture taken with thermal. We've talked about this enough quick. We're coming to the bottom of the hour here and this is turning into a half an hour late vision commercial. The four called RAV, recoil activated video, turned on and you take a shot. It will automatically capture the last 15 seconds and until you turn the video off just by touching the button. So that might be something, you know, it might be good to justify shots or it might be good to let everybody know just how that, you know, 32 point deer fell in front of you. tell the DNR because they might call that a lighted device here in Michigan. Trying to figure out how to do so. But then again you can always sweep the field with the piece of thermal looking for them to and you won't have to turn on a luminator because if they're walking through the field with a piece of night vision it's probably night vision, it's probably green screen and we more and more that's becoming a separate in the industry night vision and thermal the phrases more and more people are becoming aware of that out in the world so It's becoming more and more separate in the industry reflecting them. I don't view Mark. And again, a reminder guys, the technology in a combined arms effort is critical to being able to ID the threat before the threat has a chance to engage you. It's a dance of swords thing. You're doing that to them while they're doing it to you and it's a back and forth thing until you decide to pull the first trigger, make contact and then implement the tools in combat mode and that's why we need them in the hand. The team leaders and squad leaders are the people who are going to determine the line of fire attack and action. In many cases they may be the individual with the critical decision technology on their weapon so that they can direct fires. A combination of that and trace. Remember we've said using heavy trace on target. On my mark, trace. And as you trace, all fires go on the target area. One way or another somebody gets hit. Then you move on to the next target designate. It depends on the threat and the environments. We've talked about, you know, great golf club out of the golf bag depending upon where you are and what you're doing. And the important thing is get it done, get on to the next task. We are at the bottom of the hour. Let's see, did I have an ear candy lined up with a request? I think I do, but in the meantime, you know, we were in discussion about a number of different things during the two-hour block and one of them again we were talking about was weapons of choice. One thing about the AR, and now of course many of their newer weapons, the PTR-91s coming out with flat tops allow them to immediately take anything that is required to pick a tinny rail. So for everybody out there guys, slapping one on the roof and screwing it down is not a problem with the, for instance, a .308 rifle. And there are AR-10s out there, many other weapons that we have an option to go with, but the bladius of the bunch is the AR-15, and for suppression fire, I would point out that if I were starting to put night vision or thermal on a certain weapon for weapons application, and it's an AR, number one, I'd put a rigid bipod on the gun immediately. There's no sense in wobbling around with the weapon. Number two, treat it like a squad gun. This is where you put the Tiptadoom on board with a beta mag which kind of keeps the gun a little flatter into the ground or one of those 75 or 50 round drums that are available from one manufacturer or another but to put volume fire into the gun ready for work and so that once you're on target you can again hose it down. It's one of those situations where that type of just one system with that initiative uh... is going to assist the squad you know quite extensively now the more of those weapons like that you can put together the happier be remember you can have that upper a r with that night vision of dogs are that formal on standby two pins you pop it uh... you take it off you put your regular optics on that you feel you have a need or switched iron depending on how rugged the situation could be in you can like pelican case that thing in a in a backpack anywhere you need to go that upper uh... in fact there are cases being made right now gun case but our slash it's a backpack gun case combos where they literally have a shorter air accommodating type bob bag on the back military air fifteen complete so it's actually gun case and backpack combined the it's a parasite case on the back of the backpack uh... little talking case with that upper air will fit right in there with that night vision device You're not going to put the whole gun in the way it's actually designed to go, so if you only have to put that case in with the upper, plenty of room. Lash that down with a couple of bungees just to be safe so it's not bouncing around all over the place, and that's not a big deal. You custom build some bungees that will allow you to hit those eye hooks on your Alice pack or on the backpack you do have, or to wrap around to key, you know, keeper points. and it's not going to flop around, it's not going to create some casino-like eccentric wobble when you run or move and so that's dealt with. The important thing is when you need to switch out to it, you've got it. Okay? Just that simple. It's really funny, something real quick. Stairway to Heaven, 44 years old. Anybody believe that? Of course it is. Yeah. Stairway to Heaven, 44 years old. That's kind of interesting. Well, written 44 and released 44 years ago. Solid 44 years ago. Dudes and the bands that all were part of the forever young crew that said they were never going to get old. Well, of course the people who were listening to them are also those crazy politicians who were, you know, goofy as the day is long and, you know, have bought into the same, drank the same Kool-Aid. They now feel they've got the parasite office until they die in their hospital bed in Washington in a government office. Okay. problem with this country right now. You know, those critters, but hey, they'd find some other parasite was just as bad a swab as the one they've got in there and they'd be shuffling them in because the elections don't count for anything anyway. Okay? So, as it is, and I know there's a couple of things we want to touch on, but let's see. I guess I can do, there's two or three that were like multiple requests. Can I shrink this? Can I make it smaller, Don? How can I make it smaller? Well, I can, as a matter of fact. I guess not much. Oh well, okay. Again, I've had another request. John Wick, uh, Calida, think, but I've got the, I've got a quickie version here. I think, uh, it's a little faster. It's actually, from speed and distance, I see how much of a difference there. If the machine will work. And in the meantime guys, remember we got the end of the year drawings because we have the end of the year funding that we're putting together. You can go to www.libertytreeradio.4mg.com. That's libertytreeradio.4mg.com. I missed that fly again. Try to do multitask here. They're coming in and there's this one just hanging around. I will get him. He is not going to want to be inside. Anyway, LibertyTreeRadio.4MG.com, go to the donate key, make sure that your address is correct on the donation. There's an address block there. Double check because we're shipping stuff out and I don't want to see the box ever again. I want it to be in your hands and your lap and ready to roll. LibertyTreeRadio.4MG.com, go to the donate key, donate under any amount. Make a little notation for the end of the year bill. You'll see the imbalance that we took in is right there. We post it publicly for everybody and what our goal is, what we're trying to achieve. By doing that, it helps us a lot. We cut the bill by half by doing this, guys, from what it used to be. And it makes a big difference. And you guys helped to make it happen. So there you go. Now, a little ear candy for everybody. The John Wick soundtrack album, Calida. That's K-A-L-E-I-D-A dash think. This is from the first gun battle at the, well, THE gun battle at the Red Circle. You'd understand. Watch the movie, you'll find out what we're talking about. Here we go. Bunch of ruskies hanging out there. You keep hearing, kind of like they even timed it in the movie. Most people don't realize that. Pay attention. Pay attention to the exchange of fire and where the rim shots hit on that drum. That double tap routine, guys. But anyway, just a little heads up. pretty interesting movie something we discussed on that and we were talking about the tour block to the nineteen eleven was designed to replace a gun we have to shoot people many times to get a real good knockdown it was an adopted round it was the first of the uh... both in the revolver variant uh... which would be like thirty eight special or thirty eight uh... it was more powerful thirty eight smith and less and a little of the modern thirty eight special round and the nine millimeter slash or i'm sorry thirty eight auto cartridge military It went to China and it went to the Philippines. In both cases, everybody said the same thing because men were still carrying 45s as personal guns or had bought the new 45 variants that were not the final 1911 model. In fact, I kicked myself from the rumpus down years ago when they were still floating around. The pre-1911 Colt 45s were still out there. and they're such a collectors that now you'll notice nobody even mentions them. Have you noticed that? It's kind of like when I talk to them. Yeah, they're back in the shadows because back in the like the 70s, okay, 60s and 70s, guys like to go to a gun show and in the 70s you could find those guns for $60, waddling through. Somebody was an older guy, had a little collection of guns and be like, uh, got them. and old 45 and everyone is thinking oh 1911 it's like no no it's an early cold 1900 and it's like what? and they're like oh let me see that those are what they also would be called slab side 45s guys true slab side they're very much very much squarer in many ways and flat side most were chromed a lot of work that was a personal choice thing but a lot of them were chrome because they were custom guns to begin with for a lot of purchases so you see them both ways blued or chrome very well built, very much cold precision and little different ideas here and there about how things went together but they worked. In fact, they worked so well that here's what happened when the two-time Medal of Honor winner eventually actually was a would be a three-time Medal of Honor winner. uh... at least he was supposed to be uh... they kind of said maybe she'd hold back on certain things but several people came back as veterans from China and two things they pointed out one the 223 round oh I'm sorry guys the six millimeter Lee which was like what invented way before your 223 round the six millimeter Lee was a hyper ballistic center fire ultra modern smokeless powder cartridge gun You can shoot the Chinese with it all day and be like stabbing with an ice pick. That was the complaint, is that with a .30-40 Craig, at least with a .30 caliber rifle, you had more thud on target. The Craig Jorgensen and the 6mm Lee went to Beijing when the legation was attacked. The people that had to defend the U.S. and coordinate with these other foreign forces, because remember all the embassies eventually were under siege, complained that the 6mm just did not have the ability to put the energy it had on the target. It was a pencil bullet, it was bigger, but still the same velocity, closer to, but not really, you know, not quite as heavy as a 6.5 round, even though a lot of those were in service too. And it was the smallest we went at that point. That was the zenith of trying to go tinier and tinier. We stopped. With the 9mm slash the 38 auto, Same issue. Shooting a boxer two, three, four times, in some cases men dropped whole magazines into a target and it did not slow down the doped up attacker who then hacked the person to death with a machete or a sigh. Yeah, the same is true in the Philippines. Same account, different location. On the one hand, the 9mm and 38 pistols and such, you could put bullet after bullet into the target, but a 45 ACP type round, boom. It was delivering the energy to target. Now, you've got to remember with ball ammunition, this is one thing I've always pointed out, they were using ball ammo for reliability purposes. Your life depends on it. And that was the promotion based on the evaluations coming out of both the Boxer Rebellion and out of the Philippine insurrection that promoted going back up to the 45 ACP round, a combination of a new pistol and the new 45 automatic Colt cartridge that would go with it. Go ahead, caller. Oh yeah, this is Tex Wex again. Say, I hate to keep bugging you about it, but did you ever do anything with the turkey truck? I'm working on it, we got it deflected as you know. In fact, I've got all the camera equipment here, and I could have probably even done it today. I know, keep pestering me, because what I'm going to do right now... No, it would only take me so long that I've got to pump myself back up a little bit to do this, by the way, also, because it does require some energy there. But even as I'm doing this, because you see we're getting rained on the last couple of days on and off, and after we got everything done, then it started raining again tonight. A little pittering, not yet rain but pittering. So as it is, I'll try to get it on video and we'll get it up on YouTube as quick as we can. John will help me with that as soon as I get it in the can. But we need to do it. No, seriously, just keep pestering me. Ask me again. You're not bothering me at all. Nobody when you ask me a question like that doesn't bother me. It just jogs my lumber yard. Because I get distracted and distracted and then distracted and then distracted and it's stuff that needs to be done and It's just gonna have to be put into the into the mix I haven't asked if anybody else locally has even been taught it in that hey if they've done anything on this you know like in school but That would be kind of interesting if somebody has resurrected in some way too Because it would be kind of fun to get a whole pack of kids doing it Like you know one but it'll it's all a bunch of baby turkeys is what it looks like Running in a row. It's like there's mama turkey and there's all the baby turkeys. Gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo, gooo Except for the few soldiers, usually the sergeants, who had retained their .35s colt to revolvers. Right, exactly. Their earlier colt full frames. And again, some men had purchased. See, it's just like today. It always has been in the military. If you're willing to buy it, you can typically carry it. And a lot of men carried auxiliary firearms if they could afford it. Most people decided that drink booze was more important than firearms. Personally, my life would be more important, but that's me. And so not as many men, they'd either pick them up as battlefield pickups and get a gun from the enemy, or they'd buy something or get something in a trade or a poker game or something like that. And most of those larger frame colts were pre-1900. There were also some Remingtons out there. Remington guns, handguns. But all of them, anything that was in the big .40 caliber, well .45 caliber, forgive me. Anything in a .45 caliber case, pretty well delivered, better energy on target. Probably, we can have to assume with the thousands and tens of thousands of men that served, there had to be some .44, you know, .44 Smiths. Some men had top break, pre-1900 Smith and Wesson, big frames. Those were in either 44 or 44 Russian or in like 45 Colt, though the Colt was not as common or even popular at the time. Not back then, not to the degree that was in the 50s and 60s, you know, in the 19s, 1900s. But it was the idea that a big bore gun would get it done, and the evaluation was pretty straightforward because of experiences where officers had purchased the newer colts or individuals. And the reason they got the evaluations from the officers is because the moors were notorious for zeroing on. Like you said, the sergeants and the officers killed the sergeants and the officers first. Their logic was that they were fighting the French, which everybody forgets they had at one time. Everybody fought the French. I mean, the French always come out and oppress everybody else. They're just terrible when it comes to, you know, unnecessary holding ground. So they would go after the officers and they would go after the enlisted men. Well, a lot of the officers were carrying a variety of weapons personally purchased. And that's where a lot of the semis were. that were available. Now, they were also, in some cases, actually a longer barrel than we were typically familiar with and would actually, in some cases, be considered long slide guns. I mean, 6 and 3 quarter inch barrels were, they could, like anything Colt made, they would custom build guns where they had the offering and they weren't that custom, but they were a special order. And so those weapons all showed up somewhere in the Philippines or in China. especially with the Marine Expeditionary Forces and the Army Expeditionary Forces. Navy, I don't know, there's something about the Navy, not so much. Navy, naval personnel pretty well stuck with issue. That's why they ended up with the 6th Lee and the 38th Auto Enforce. And they had a lot of casualty problems because of that. So, interesting point, yeah, good point there. A lot of other guns and a lot of other personal guns that were carried that were earlier weapons, and it's because they were used to them, and so they did not feel that the new gun necessarily was going to get the job done, and it turns out they were right. At least for that particular situation. Now, I'm going to say again, I'm not telling everybody, get rid of your 9mm, Mark, I bought 9mm, I got 5,000, keep it! Are you comfortable with it? Are you working with it? Well, just understand that whenever we talk about this, it doesn't mean I'm not going to pick up a 9mm or that I don't have them. I have 9mm handguns. I've had them for as long as I've lived. mostly because it used to be surplus stuff was cheap and you could have a lot of fun shooting a variety of guns. You'd go to the range of the whole rack of guns and pew, pew, pew, pew, and pew, pew. Now that I got this one in hand, how far can I reach with it? You take that Walther P-38 and you screw it into that target at 100 yards and let's see if I can actually make that person distressed. Then you find out what that pistol does. The nines just again, the solution for the nine was what to do what? Guys, think about what they immediately did. I know what we'll do. We'll make a big hollow point so it mushrooms out to 45 caliber. Well, wait a minute. Couldn't we have bought a 45 caliber and saved the trouble? No, no. The 9mm is better, which is why we're going to open it up like a sewer pipe to the size of the gun you could have carried. with not as much energy. Well, here's the other thing, then of course immediately when you come up with that super-expando bullet, they'll always build it for the .45, so now instead of a .45, it opens up to .55 caliber. Well, hell, isn't .55 better than .45 caliber? You went pink. Yeah, you see, but you won't see me do it. I used to carry Super Bells, and I used to carry them on, nobody in the valley, here in Michigan we knew what they were, because Super Bell originally was from Michigan. and super bill was the first to make the super-dirty harry magnum cartridges for everything they make a pretty cool automatically five thirty eight specials of course three fifty seven but anything didn't have the ability to really open up and drop drops of energy daddy was at the super pill would give you a little more velocity but also they were all carp mal bullets custom-built and the idea is that they would open up to twice or at least one half time again that original dimension of the bullets so that it would drop every ounce of energy you had available. And with an ice pick gun like the .32 automatic, that actually was pretty successful. They just went in another direction from where the Chex went. The Chex used a .32 ACP, remember, in their Scorpion submachine gun. They went with Tri-Burst, that's multiple kinetic energy strike, and then they went with AP Flattening. It actually is AP, but the progression of the development of the bullet is so it gets past whatever might be on the outside, and then At a certain point with a combination of spinning energy, it actually had a tendency to cave in on itself. And the idea behind that was to expand the outer perimeter of the bullet and expand the dimensions so that more energy is delivered against the targets lost in the meat and the bone and the organ rather than in the air as it passes through the target. So you can get more bite out of a 32 almost. The Chex I think did it the right way. They went with an, it was a jacketed round. It's a conical, semi-conical, unique looking bullet. Every round of that that we could buy when some of it came in, when the Chex were starting to get rid of the scorpions, we bought it and I don't shoot it. I've never shot it. We need to go, this is cheap ammo. I said, no, you need to buy a thousand, couple thousand rounds or whatever you want and put it on the shelf because you won't get it ever again and nobody will ever build it again. You know, that's the stuff you say for when you get into that serious situation like we're facing right now. Certain rounds, you want to fire for tests, but you don't burn them out. You want to know that it works in your weapon. That's your most important issue, guys, with anything. Somebody might tell you this is the latest SuperDuper load, but guys, if it malfunctions in your weapon the first round, they'll find you dead on the ground with a whole magazine full of a SuperDuper load that didn't work in your rifle. But it is SuperDuper. as the advertisements said so. And there's all kinds of promotionals by Johnny Schmidlap and Johnny Jetjock and a whole bunch of others who have a tuned gun that they spent $4,000 on, which you didn't spend $4,000 on your gun. So that's another thing that needs to be balanced out. You've got to make sure that what you do have works. It can't just stay in the package and wait until the last minute. If it's your Minuteman gun, that needs to be out of the box. That needs to be tested. You need to experiment. You need to find out what works. A basic rule is that ball ammunition intended for the design will typically work in everything. And that's why I promote ball, and whatever you learn after that is your personal flavor choice. But you can't tell me that somebody didn't explain this to you. Then go buy the SuperDuper Round. It works in my gun market, it works! Well fantastic. Then buy that SuperDuper Round for your gun and make it sing. Click it, let it sing the song of our people. Shoot Black uniform. Shoot Black uniform. Shoot Black uniform. gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching lee gilching le Then I want volume fire and penetration, and it need be just volume fire because all I gotta do is make sure that the blockades and the, you know, barred doors stay barred. My mayor may not get hit, but remember that if I have called for help, my objective as a defender in the center is to become a base of fire to give my enemy no place to hide. Does everybody understand that? Now because of this, I would point out that if you're the one under attack, and you have your weapon system squared away, You may not necessarily engage the targets closest to you if you can destroy the enemy's ability to maintain their perimeter. Remember that your break-in or your relief unit is coming in from outside. Your enemy, typically in a surround situation against you or in an initial assault. Take a look at how they attack front and rear, how they secure perimeters. Watch all these videos where the cops all puff up and deploy. Understand that your friends are coming in to kill them. Now they're going to shift direction and when they do, guess what? They're now, the enemy is with your mobile element coming in from outside. You now have the ability to demonstrate interlocking crossfires. So it's better that you put a bullet in two or three targets that have to immediately shift direction and change fires. If you can put a bullet in every one of them once, that's all. That's why I emphasize this. Take advantage. Your weapon has excellent energy. The .308, if that's what you're using, or even the .223. Aim for their butt-hocks. aim for their crotch. Better to put one bullet in three characters trying to put bullets on your friends and blow their, blow their bowling balls off. There we go, I can say it that way, right? Uh, their billiard balls. Better to blow their billiard balls off and have them screaming and thrashing into the radios. The psychological effect of that, plus the fact that you've put, you've incapacitated them to a degree and it's in the most likely place where you'll be able to get a bullet in. The idea behind this is they will help you. Your allies will break the siege or break the attack. And you may have to choose to take, you know, again, and ignore to a degree the frontal attack once it's suppressed. If for just a moment you can shift target and put bullets on the aggressor trying to counter what's coming in from the outer perimeter. Always remember that. Wherever you can assist, the idea is to break the spine. If you have a perimeter circle, what you do is break the spine, then you turn 90 degrees, and you roll up the enemy. That's what happens coming in from the outside. Now, the sooner that that crack takes place because of devastating fires from within and without, the safer you'll be. The sooner you will be safe. Let none of them survive, destroy, slash, kill every last one that showed up, We need to talk now! We need to talk! Mow them down. Kill them all. Don't let anything but a rumor of their destruction return to where they came from. Strip them all naked. Find all the equipment they have. Find all their electronics. Find out where they lived. Where their homes are. Families will be deported. Anybody and everything. We're going to do them what they were planning on doing to you. Well, Wally, we're not going to be quite as mean. They would kill your family and execute you and your house. That's why they're attacking homes in the first place. But we won't forget any of them. Not one last bugger is going to be allowed to stay or sit in this camp after this was done. That's finished. We're very tribal on that. And everybody goes, oh, you're tribal. Yes, I am very tribal on that. In fact, you better start embracing your tribalism. Yeah, I caught that arrow right where I wanted it. Good. Let's see if we can do that again. Are you liberals that believe in evolution? The evolution of that word spoken today is called nationalism. Yeah, I'm very much. And I don't have any bo- I'm not apologizing for any of it. You know why? Because I haven't seen my enemies apologizing for anything of you. In fact, they're right in your face, standing right there in Bragg about how they're being as dishonorable as possible and how they're stealing the vote and how they're destroying the country and it's time to go to war, it's time to deal with the problem. But each of you is going to have to make your decision, you've got to be better organized. I'd be honest, if you're my age or older and for that matter even younger, you're never going to get out alive if they get you behind the wire again. Your best bet is get as many of them as you can so they won't hurt your friends. Do as many of them as you can. In fact, if you know there's more coming down the road, catch them before they get closer, mow them down and hunt the rest down. Every last one of them. Why? Your ore. Finished. Done. First time you have to pull the trigger, there's no negotiating. Whatever you try to say, none of it will be heard by anybody in the public unless you're the only side that wins. You win, you're it, you're the voice, they lose. All their cameras, all their videos, all of their activity, all their laughing and high-fiving and how they're going to murder everybody at the other end when they got there will all be in your hands. See how that works? Can't emphasize that enough because it's, you know, everybody's, you know, talking about, oh World War 3, guys, that's all a distraction. If it happens, it happens and it's over there anyway. If it happens here, well these characters are the ones that made this problem. The ones that we're looking at right now, the ones that think they're gonna drag us all down into the toilet with them, and I plan on kicking them in the toilet, use a stick to hold them down and flush them. How's that sound? Let's get rid of them. Yeah, sounds like fun. But that needs to be the emphasis. And again, you're going to have to pick the weapons that best suit you, adjusted to your age. Uh, your area of expertise, your skill, and you need to work with other people in the same process. Anyway, it is Weapons Wednesday. Your mind is your first best weapon. Think ahead. How best can you hunt the enemy down to incapacitate them and destroy them as they, and prevent them from being a threat? Destroy them utterly. That's the rule. In fact, that should be always in your mind. How can you get rid of every last one of them? Now go watch videos on YouTube. Pay attention, and pay attention to what they've been doing with all their practicing and all of their deployments. and understand your enemy because you have plenty of information that will help you to relate to it. When you look at a picture, don't go, oh my god, look at all of them. How would I destroy that situation? How would I get rid of every last one of them? Who would I shoot first? Why would I shoot that one last? See how that works? We're in the top. Look outside. It's dark. God bless the Republic. 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