September 26, 2016
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1h 10m
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2016
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Summary
Mark Koernke and Don Bechter discussed thermal and night vision technology, specifically ATN thermal rifle sights and their capabilities compared to green screen systems. They covered the importance of ruggedizing military equipment for field use, the challenges of transitioning technology from laboratory to combat conditions, and practical considerations for gear maintenance and modification. The show also included discussion of alleged Homeland Security training of gang members, military uniform identification systems, and commentary on the 2016 presidential debate.
- thermal imaging
- night vision
- atn rifle sights
- green screen technology
- military equipment
- ruggedization
- combat gear
- preparedness
- ar-15
- ak-47
- magazines
- homeland security
- gang training
- military uniforms
- 2016 election
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Goodies and gentlemen, this is the evening intelligence report. I'm Mark Wernke. And I'm Don Bechter. Who served a victory for all on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, coming in a Freedom Time, FM Microstations, CB, Baystations, and Ultra Hallmark and Golden Spike Technologies, east, big sunset, cool, uh, lot done looks like we're going to be finished with most of this project tonight if everything keeps going once we're done with the program get back out there and help with what's going on and we're going to chug away until we are finnae it will be it anyway it is a beautiful beautiful day here in mission what's like a mere neck of the woods bottom end looks good what's jumping off the wall and what's like there in general sir go ahead please don't forget that okay it is the 26th day of September Year of Our Lord 2016. Great day as far as, well, you know, the rain stopped and things like that. But, beautiful, wonderful day, the 26th day of September 2016. I would say, and I mentioned it earlier in the day, I stepped away from the hour between 10 and 11 to take the, that guy from the, you know, delivery thing at the door, that thing is here, talk about it. here for a minute Mark. You guys, website, you know the website, ydtoe.us. You'll see green screen and you'll see digital and you'll see the thermal and most almost all of the thermal there is the Thor base systems. It's a real gun sight. It's got one in my hand. I've had a couple of them through my hand before but I have one in my hand that's bloody for a while. Even the picture from when the Thor first came out, Mark, until now, I mentioned earlier in the day that someone recently took delivery of an entry level of 1.5 to 5 power and when they turned it on they weren't happy. Oh, I don't like this. Gee, and I think I, you know, and all kinds of, man, I probably could have, I should have waited in over 10 years or something. And you notice that, well, you should, as soon as you get it, your computer and upgrade into it if there's one available because ATN is continually upgrading these things, you guys. and he put the upgrade in and now he's a happy pup. If you want him to get you're going to have to take it to a computer in order to make it run. I'm not a real fan of that and if you don't have a computer well if you send it to me I'll make it run for you if you don't have access to because we're actually doing that for someone right now. We've talked about the electric gun and you know you have to turn it on and we've talked about other systems like we've talked about the system. A guy was talking about a while back, oh it's about $10,000 and it will do everything but dispense tomato soup. Well, let's just say, you know, it will do soup way over there. It might not be the tomato soup you're looking for but it will look like it kind of. It will range, it will automatically feed read in for you and all kinds of things and that's about a $10,000 scope and the other thing it'll do is allow the cops to turn it off because the manufacturer said right from the get-go, we won't have criminals abusing this because I have allowed the cops to turn it off. Well, other people have talked about the Thor system and even the entry level excite. Mark, it has a wireless capability. You can turn that wireless capability off. You can turn the GPS off. I'm told you guys, here's a big secret. You turn off the wireless, you turn off the GPS. Man, your battery life gets a lot longer. That's something to do. You know, you can do that within the device. You don't have to have it connected to a computer. First came out, they even asked me and it was kind of a stumped question because, you know, you guys, they tell you, I'm not a computer guy. But they say, well, how can you shut it off and not have the computer turn it on if you have to have a computer to do that? Well, you shut it off internally. You don't have to have a computer to disable it from Wi-Fi or to disable it from GPS. Now the GPS might be good if you're wandering around and you find a particular place that, oh this might be a good hunting station, this might be a good ambush place, you know, I'm going to ambush about 24 deer here tomorrow morning. You know what I mean? We've talked about that though because GPS can be shifted out. It might be useless one day. You follow your GPS over the cliff to your doom in the dark. You know, oh, I didn't even know that was there. And then you get tired. I'm flying! Yeah, straight, uh, gravity still works. Shut off the gravity, shut off the gravity, shut off the gravity. Something like that anyway. And you know, you've heard me sit here and say, I hate technology. But I'll tell you the computer guy here that runs the backbone of the, uh, The website for me, he says, Don this is cool. He says, Don I love this. He's gone so far as to, Don I love this so much. I'm gonna marry it. That's heresy there and all of that. But you know he's being a bit facetious here, but he's really impressed with this device. Entry level you guys, I'd tell ya. And you know, I find out the good and the bad about everything the best I can. If you move up in the thors, man you've got this cool front cover on the lens that just removes from the lens. and it lays back on the top of the device. That's real cool. For the entry level ones with the 19mm, I'm not certain about with the 25mm front lens, you have to remove the cover and put it in your pocket. You know, that's a nitpicky little thing, but you have to put the cover in your pocket. And we've talked about the electric gun. That's why I started in the electric site. That's why I started going in this direction. Because if you're using one of these, generally you're going to be patrolling and you're going to already have it turned on. Or, You know the click in the night or you think that man I should be reaching for my gun the first thing you do you reach for the gun you power it on you turn on your sight because by the time you've Gathered a little bit of other gear or laced up your boots and other things like that Well, it doesn't take that long. This is an exaggeration. The device is going to be on you know It's going to take that moment for the device to go from you pushing the power button before it's you know producing a thermal image in front of you and again Well, I don't like this. The thermal image is tremendous, you guys. You can refresh it within an instant almost. That's seven seconds. You press and if you know some thermal refreshes automatically, it'll go quick and it'll seem like it shuts off for a moment and it comes back on and you put the front cover on this and touch a button and when you take the front, it's... you see detail even in the 1.5 to 5 power that 5 years ago in thermal you didn't see. Again that's underscoring this fellow thing, I don't like this, I don't like this and then bringing the new download on board and saying wow I really like this a lot. I've got to say, you know my computer guy Mark, he really likes these a lot. Go over to the website ydtoe.us and if you're looking for the old well scold down to the bottom section of it, you'll scroll past the digital entry level. There's a couple of gun sights there. And you'll scroll past the green screen, you know, the old standby. And I'd point out that, well, the green screen will do things that the thermal won't, and the thermal will do things that the green screen won't. I'm not downplaying. It would be a wonderful team to have one of each. And in the not too distant future, well, how many hours are in a week? I don't want to do the math right now. but in the not too distant future we're going to start building some videos that have green screens side by side, real time, and a thermal piece next to it. You'll see what this person walking across the field looks like in green screen and looks like in thermal. And you'll see what that person way over there underneath that shadow looks like to the green screen and looks like to the thermal. And then we might point it at the TV and all you'll see is a bit of heat in the thermal and you'll see an image on the, or point it at, of a truck and try to read the numbers on the door, or a license plate or things like that. You really can't do that with thermal unless, well, maybe if it was black numbers on a white license plate, big black numbers on the side of a white truck, you know, high contrast like that, and it's been in the sun for a while and now it's in a cooling off place. particular little but you're not going to read a billboard. Again, the thermal, and we'll demonstrate this in the not too distant future, but you guys, I would say this, man oh man, that entry level piece of thermal, that 4.1.25, I've been calling it 1.5, it's 1.25 to 5 power. It's 1.25, that's a correction. Comes in between, almost splitting the cost between a second generation and a third generation gun sight. And if I were right now because the picture has become so fine. This is something, remember I used to tell you if you're looking across a field of grass with a piece of thermal and a piece of green screen side by side, you're going to see the grass wiggling and if ever so slight the breeze, the tops of the grass moving, you wouldn't hardly see that with thermal. But it's to the point where you're looking at chairs and tables and the stems of the chairs, the legs of the tables and stuff, you know, the legs of the chairs and stems of the tables and things, and seeing that fine a definition in thermal. Yee-haw. Well, in this instance, the one and a quarter I'm not sitting here trying to do a big commercial. I'll top this off in just a second. That 1.25 to 5 power comes in under $2,000. I can beat that by about 15%, but I'm not supposed to say that I'm here. Scratch, scratch, scratch. But again, that comes in the middle of a second generation gun sight and a third generation gun sight. And I sat here, I'll close with this, you guys. I sat here with someone just a little while ago and I showed this to him and he said, yeah, I don't wanna see it right now, it's not dark. And I told him this is not light dependent. Yeah, but I don't wanna see it right now, it's not dark outside, but this has no, it's not dependent on light. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, and I don't wanna see it right now. You can use thermal in the daytime too, in particular now, the picture has become so fine, even on an entry level piece. Not to mention, this upgrade, ATM is, upgrades in the future and they're not going to turn their back on such a platform. Such a platform that it's a high demand piece. And one of the reasons I'm talking about taking up good portion of the first hour on a Monday night is even the entry level right now, men, it's kind of backed up here and there. And the big end pieces, they're building in groups. They're built this magnification and then move up to the next magnification. And the big end pieces are about halfway to those. So it's going to be a little more of a wait to get to those. But when they get out they'll have all the grades in them and it will be worth the wait. But right now a 1.25 to 5 power market is maybe a month out from the time you order it to the time it gets to your front door. It's technology that even just 3 years ago, what we're doing now as far as technology, the entry level and in particular if you went up to like the to 25 power. They'll run out the door for I think in the mid fours and that's going to be every bit what the Raptor was six years ago at $15,000. But there's a line for them. That's why I'm doing this. If you want one, there's a bit of a back order. And if you want one, get in line because hotcakes, they are going faster than the green screen stuff right now, Mark. I yield to you, sir. Again, overlapping technology, the green screen is out there in force still. We know that we need a combined arms element here with regard to visibility. We're going to see what we can do to also demonstrate a few other low tech to integrate with a high tech in terms of infrared Protection technology works. It does have an illuminator, but you're not holding it. You can deploy this equipment in front of whatever else you're doing with your more sophisticated support equipment and create a net. Think about that. Think about a defensive net. And you don't care if these units are lost. The extended units, the stuff that's on the front, by the way, it also creates pools of illumination for your green screen. And if you lose it, what you got into it for what it does, you had eyes forward. It operates until it's knocked out. You were able to also observe, just in case somebody, shall we say, clumsy, And we're able to use that for both an initial warning system and then as part of a targeting system for your more sophisticated rifle sights. And again, you can confirm targeting with the thermal. Think about what we've said before using the night vision. Hey, how many hot spots we got out there? If they're that fumbly that they're walking into the edge of an infrared pool of light, What else is out there that we're not seeing with the green screen right now? And then you switch over and you verify with the thermal. Oh yeah, there's that bunch over there by the IR. That's not the ones you gotta worry about. Look over here. Look over at three o'clock. They're over there at 11 o'clock, almost like they're trying to distract you. See, plans have been planned in circles within circles and the supporting technology changes that. It allows you to sort things out. Go ahead, call or jump in there. Do you think they're ever going to have a... You lost your... Whoa! Maybe I should direct this question to Don. Why don't you repeat that? Because you went totally blank after, do you think they'll ever... Oh, sorry about that. Well, that's okay. You didn't... You know, do you think they're ever going to have one day where the operator or the weapon is wearing a hood and... They're looking through the hood to target and don't have to bring the gun sight to the eye. You think that will ever happen? Right now they can, psychiatrists and doctors are measuring reflexes and all kinds of things and what you're thinking about by motion of the eye. By a detector that's measuring the motion of your iris. Now I'm certain there's military applications for that. I saw that Clint Eastwood movie, Firefox, and I don't mean to be facetious at all, but The technology that exists on the cutting edge of wartime, you and I got no idea about. Need I repeat that? The technology that exists on the edge of wartime, the one that they've got three of or 20 or men, they've almost got enough to equip an aircraft carrier, be it this side or the other, you know what I mean? We haven't even seen that yet. We've talked about night vision and I don't even know but we've talked about night vision that is like a pair of glasses. Like a pair of sunglasses you guys. No more weight, no more bulk, no more but I don't know if that's going to run in thermal or if that's going to run in green screen but it's out there. Maybe SEAL Team 6 saw a few of them. I don't know. Well no they saw the quad eye thing, the bug eye thing. But the cutting edge of wearable night vision is almost comparable to a pair of glasses, a pair of sunglasses. I haven't seen that, but I know it's there. So again, this goes over to a lot of things that, you know, like Star Trek and whatnot. Mark, I don't mean to interrupt you. There you go. I yield to you, sir. No, no, go ahead. He was talking to you, Dan. I agree. I understand the question because, see, the head... well, actually what it is is like heads up weapons technology, which every time they've gone through that here's the problem. It's not the idea. Laboratory is great. But the problem is, well, let me ask you something. Have you got a cell phone? Oh, yeah. There's a cell phone. Everybody out there loves their cell phone. How many cell phones have you broken in the last five years? Five or six. Why? Okay. Why? You use them. Now think about this. Yeah, you drop them water, you break them. I mean the new ones, which are the flat faced, oh those were made to be sold over and over again. That's why they're such punky. They don't have proper shielding for the front of them so that, well any part of that's because they're a touch screen, which is a problem to begin with putting out in the field, but they knew this. Well, you can't afford that breakage in a battlefield situation. life and death, you see, so where people think, he goes, well I have this technology, yes you do, but you have to, and I've used the term many times, it's called ruggedizing. You have to ruggedize it for the stupid environment. where people are trying to kill you, things blow up all the time. And it's the difference between the really cool idea of a semi-wireless or a light wire system as opposed to, oh I'm going to be beating the snot out of this, I'm moving left and right, I run into a bunch of wreckage, I get snagged on this, the wire gets cut the first time I walk through something, or the unit gets smacked by something and it's just too fragile. They have to ruggedize it, number one, but it still has to be tougher in general because they've been able to, you know, for Consumer consumption you can chintz it out and you've seen this to the nth degree where originally equipment was heavier and then they've made it so cheap no matter what you do it's going to break. You know even when you buy it's going to break or malfunction within such a short period of time. You know it. You just know it. It's like I got to live with it because that's all I got or this is what I can afford. If I pay this amount I know I'm getting more chintz and less physical reliability. Okay? That can't happen with military equipment. So one of the biggest problems is when you get it from the idea from the laboratory to where I'm going to go out and use the equipment, that's where the failure rate spikes very quickly. Hunter Liget out west, the Alaskan Research Range, and the Panama Canal tropical research site are just three sites that are used so that even after they get an idea what they think they want to do with it, Then they still have to take it out and they take it to sites like Hunter Liget for the last 50 years. Well, it used to be they had every square yard measured out. That's decades ago. By the 90s they had every square foot mapped out. And today, well with GPS, it's probably an inches or centimeters if you want to go metric, take your pick. But the reason for this is so they can test it out and go, okay, we did this to this and this, and they map things when they use them. And they want to see, put it through the paces and see how it breaks and how long before it breaks. And what were you doing and where were you and why did it break? What did you do or what part of the process of testing, where did it finally fail? And this is why, you know, there's like down there, well, there could be 20 of them. But the 20 that are there cost so much because in order to get it from the laboratory to the field, there is so much that has to be done, A, to make it manageable and smaller. See, there's all kinds of garbage a government has bought, purely again, to finance, to keep the companies going so they do more. Before we had the RC toys, you know, they had backpack rocket reconnaissance pods. Anybody? I've talked about this before. I know guys that used them. It was a really cool idea, but it was during the 60s and early 70s. So you figure out how much that camera cost in a little solid fuel rocket. And there was a whole pack of them in an armored backpack with a camera, a camera on every rocket, and a television screen that was like the five inch screen you used to buy that was a tube TV, right? And you launched a little rocket and it sailed all over the battlefield. Now guys, how fast does a rocket? travel. It was a really interesting idea except when you were trying to watch it like in real time where it would make any sense. So then you'd have to slow it down so you're going through all this process and it's like the operator said, it's a really neat idea. But by the time you slowed everything down and moved everything, the guy's up to you and bandit in your hind end. Because you took the rocket, you shot it all over the battlefield, and it's flying all over the place at hyperspeed, and these objects are whizzing by, and then you're supposed to rewind, so to speak, the reel to reel, all of the digital nowadays, and then you watch and slow-mo all the stuff that's collected. Now today, the software would probably even collect and slow it down for as you go. But the problem is by the time you are pitot farting with the technology, it's like I said, someone could come up and hit you with a three foot panga or wallop your head in with a mallet while you are busy studying the technology. See that's the disadvantage of being enveloped in something where the technology lures you into. Again, we started this with the first thing you are going to have to do is power up your sight. Meanwhile, and of course, the thing is that there are so many other things that can go wrong, or that will go wrong, and most of it has to do with just connections, connectors. You know, CB radios, truck drivers, you're all listening. Some CB radios just steer close, some of them have had problems and they've had to fix them. Why? Well, they went cheaper on the circuitry board to try and lighten it up and make it cheaper so they could make more profit. That in turn meant that the circuit board snapped on a corner breaking a circuit and making the radio dysfunctional or making too much noise in some ways, but maybe the radio proceeded to work for a while. The company knew the mistake they made or they took the rubber BB buggy bumpers out that they used to have, went to something cheaper, and it helped to do the damage to the circuit board where it then snapped down the corner because it was too thin. And oh, they had to take it all back in and do what originally they should have done, which is put the right parts in under warranty or they tell you turn the radio in because, well, I've decided it's junk. and you go buy another radio that's still built the way it's supposed to be or that didn't chintze out even if it has gone to cheaper parts. It didn't chintze out on the density of the material so it can take the abuse of the road bouncing in a truck, bouncing in a car. Well, think about this. All your combat equipment is in the same situation. This is why I have said it's one thing to be carrying it, or even you're wearing your gear. You know, I'll go out, we'd train for about six hours, and then we'd go eat lunch, and need you living it for the weekend. Well, no, because we had to well arrange, we had to expense some ammunition, and we didn't carry our combat gear to do that, you know. We just put it off to the side, and so you aren't beating the snout out of it to see what's going to work and not work, fail and not fail. And I've already told you from past experience guys first thing you do with most of the combat gear even the well especially the newer and cheaper stuff Break out the sewing machine and sew all the leading edges again Sew the corners again even on your BDO uniforms your brand new top of the line BDO uniforms Break out the sewing machine if you don't know how to get your wife to and reinforce the tops of the pockets, reinforce the corners of the pockets and hell it might as well go around. And the bottoms. Don't forget the bottoms. They're so teensy on the bottoms these days you sneeze and then they're gone. Yeah, they pop open because they're doing single line stitches, what they're doing. And that used to be a triple spec designation, triple line spec. So there's an example of what you got to do and that's with the stuff that is just your everyday perishables. And the same is true with all the rest of this technology, which is why if you do, like for instance, if I tell you something, I'll tell you, hey, this is not as expensive. It's cheaper. Now, there was a deal this weekend, and I'm going to tell you, I'm happy. I wish I should have spent more money on it simply because we everybody, we could still make a pretty good deal on it in other ways. But $6.99 for a chest rig and $12.99 for a salt vest. It was a promo. And now that they got them and they bought a bunch of them and they got them out there and people were looking at them, now they went up to $43 and $46. But for two days, $6.99 and $12.99. Now, do I think these things are the best of these things, the sliced white bread? No! Do I figure that they're perishable? Oh yeah, they're all China sports stuff. But you know what, for bandoliers, which traditionally were like throw away or for drop pouches or rigs to hand to people who are going to show up that, I don't have anything. Well, I'll put this on your hind end. It's actually a pretty decent piece of equipment. You're going to do certain things I tell you to do before we go in the field. And then by the time we're done, we're going to have you squared away and dressed up accordingly. You'll be ready to party. You'll be able to go to the dance. And you won't go naked. But I still know that there are things we'll have to address before we take you out there. We could go as is, but then I've got more work to do later if anything goes wrong with something. Got to fix things. I want to fix things right away. I want to have more time to work with them. And remember, you're going to be living with the equipment. That night vision, it's going to virtually be able to leap your hand. Half the day, it's going to be where it literally is right there. Wherever you are, it is. half the day if you're the night shift remember guys we talked about this too once we settle into a wartime environment there is a shift there are shifts I know guys during Vietnam just like me, they're night people in fact guys I know served for well eventually they served for almost 30 years together half of that time they never saw each other even though they served in the same unit why? because they served multiple tours in Vietnam and well at that time by that time they had like Well, I know them, they had 17 years, and that's in the 70s together. But these guys went in, and their career intermingled, and they were over in Vietnam, the same SF group, but one was basically day cycle, the one was night cycle. And so they served in the same unit, they served in the same area of operation, but hardly saw each other. In fact, when the one ended up getting all chopped up in a firefight, the other one didn't hear about it for a couple of days. They knew they made contact, but they were under extensive conflict in contact, and they were in different areas of the same area of operation, but serving daytime, nighttime activities. So eventually they ended up, again for whatever reason, it's really weird, but their career tracks were pretty close so they kept ending up in the same place. Anyway, point is, you're living with the stuff guys. You should be, okay? This is the problem. You only don't want to wear clothes until they fall off, but I suggest you take a look historically at what has happened with troops. And if you think it's way, way back, well of course World War II is half a century ago and more now. But back in World War II, during Guadalcanal, the clothes literally rotted off the men's bodies. That's the prime example. Yeah. Everything else... That's a short time frame because of environment, if you call it a year or so or seven months, a short time frame. Yeah. And not only that, but remember all the other equipment took the same kind of wear. Some better than others. People not so much even. You know what I mean? That's one we can talk about, Todd. Well, lubricant products. T-O-L. Why you metal shaped like metal? And he said that the, he was informed that the Homeland Security is now training an army of the Crips and the Bloods and MS-13 for some reason. I mean, I can... Well, that's in line one originally with, that's part of the original FEMA slash TIN-SEN that I explained in American Peril. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, Chuck Harder talked about that. I remember hearing him say that and others. But I think he's saying that this is ongoing now. Now, I'm not taking it, you know, we shouldn't just take it completely for his word. I mean, you know, take it when he's hurt. But if anyone else out there might have connections to, you know, Homeland Security, maybe we can get a couple more confirms on this. I mean, because I mean, you and I both know this is the first wave. I mean, it's the first set of stand back to deplete us. Right, those are the folks that are in front of the others that are better trained. So that's where again you have tiers of defense. Remember let your light rifles handle the pions, focus your heavy weapons on the second and third echelon. Yeah, supposedly there's going to be let use to do security in the large metropolitan areas, which is a joke. One of the other things about this with them training the characters, like I said, the reason that people ask, why would they do this? Number one, they're already with an organization. They do understand pecking order and command structure. And there is already esprit de corps built into the unit. Oh yeah, that's where I was going to go because as you're traveling through these secure zones, you might hear that question, is you be red or you be blue. And we're not talking about Republicans or Democrats. No. You with the crypts or you with the bloods? Who told you you could be here? Who told you you could wear those colors? Right. Who told you to wear that shirt? Who told you you could go right down the shopping list? Yeah, who told you you could be here? How did you get here? Oh, this is going to be wonderful. This is what one might call a target rich environment. Yeah, the big thing is that again, your egalitarian infantry, the old, their egalitarian infantry, the people coming in that are on the short end of the cycle that don't have as much experience, Their job, because their range and capabilities will vary and mostly aren't as great, they will deal with the peon infantry that they have on the other side. Your better or more sophisticated and skilled personnel, their mission will be to destroy the base of fire to the rear. And you have fire maneuver elements and more sophisticated maneuver elements that are mechanized, etc., just as they do. So it's the full dance of swords. Oh, yeah. But the big thing is you prioritize and make people understand how to prioritize, you know, use of personnel, use of manpower and weapon systems. Are they going to identify them? Look for the tattoo on the neck? Oh, it won't make any difference. They'll be wearing the uniform, whatever the du jour uniform of the day is. They'll put them into it. What they'll do is, let me give an example. Originally, I'm not making this up, guys. This is serious. They wanted to take state defense forces and put them into a pink jumpsuit, like a salmon-colored jumpsuit with burgundy trim, epaulettes, and pocket flaps. Now you can go play militia. and that way they could keep an eye on you. They would do the same with these characters. It would not be something... Well, okay, how many of you remember this? When originally they used to have basic training, especially during Vietnam, when you first got there, you got an issue field jacket and other items, but they weren't issue. They weren't standard. They were dyed in an off color. Does anybody remember this? Kind of like the yellow bumper on a rookie's car? Yeah, in this case it was an off green. There was still a green, but it was not an OD green. And that was intentional. That way, what are you doing out of the VCT area, son? Well, although, well, you see, the uniform kind of spells that out. Now, after your first part of the cycle, you know, cycling in, you go to Quarter Bastard, then they would issue you out all the rest of your new gear. and your new uniform and your standard military uniform, you would turn in those uniforms that you got plus the field jacket and then they would take those back, they'd go to laundry and they'd be cycled back in for the next bunch. Then you would get your standard issue, all your ribbons of meat and all your unit passion IDs, your ribbons, your rank and everything will be sewn on right there, etc., etc., and then in the cycle you go. Do you see how that works? Yeah, they'll be given some sort of papers or badges to use some sort of... Any uniform that matches. Remember that will be consistent for the unit because they're used to it. In fact, what would you do? Think about this. Reds or blues? What would I do? Oh, how about you give them a certain uniform and make sure that if they're one click they get blue epulets. If they're another click they get red epulets. In fact, it wouldn't be necessarily an epule. The uniform would all be the same. Guys, for your class Bs and for, again, designated personnel, you have epulet slip-ons. That's what an epulet's for. It's also supposed to be a retainer for the old style web gear. But it's kind of lost its meaning there. But the epulet, you unsnap it, you slide on the colors and snap it on. And whatever gear you give them, all of a sudden, they're riding their colors, man. but they're still in the uniform you can identify friend, foe, shoot, no shoot. See how that works? Anyway, go ahead, I'm sorry. Yeah, just as someone else out there listening might come across some more info on this, I'd like to hear it. Yeah. Just as a heads up on that, how many of you ever pay attention to uniforms? You'll notice with SF units and with certain Army infantry units, you have eculit slide-ons. Anybody? You might have noticed those. They're on the eculit board on the shoulder. with your, you know, casual uniform or with the, or with, depending on the era of the year, etc., and that changed back and forth. But SF was the, was the Kelly Green the same as the Beret color, the forest green. The epaulet board that was made out of felt was, was actually there. Your anchor insignia went on, went on top of that and pinned into place. So how And that's changed. I mean, they've gone back and forth on that. Yes, no, and then maybe, and then there was confusion, and then they've got the anal-retentive control freak. I'm here to piss about your uniform, but I didn't know Jack Squad about being a soldier thing. I watched that for years. I... Stolen... No, it's not stolen, Valor. You don't have a clue. You remember part of whatever institution at the time when certain people were doing that. Now, there's some goofs out there, and crazy people that always do some weird stuff. But you know what, we used to joke about that. Now all these inner-retentive control freaks are pissing bullets because you've got some fruit loops that look like field marshals. Well, it's kind of obvious we don't have those people. You know what I mean? We've got enough people with fruit salad floating around as it is. You know what I mean? Ranks are, you know, legions and legions of ribbons, half of which are for just being there. And when I mean just being there, I mean like, you know, they were desperately trying to, you know, add points or collect points for people who weren't going to go anywhere near anything. Which is why a lot of those ribbons were created. If you know anything bad with the army, my god, you don't know anything about the Navy. Oh my god. I didn't even know about it for years until I started doing retirements on people or doing points on people for promotion and it was like, wow, look at all these Navy ribbons I've never heard about and what do they do? Well, they do give you retirement points though, I guess. So, are some of these police chiefs running around out there when they go to formal dinners? They look like generals now. What, fleet admirals? No, galactic fleet admirals. They're wearing black. They're with Starfleet. Well, no, they're with one of the, you know, sci-fi groups, okay? It's like you're going to a sci-fi convention. Like I told you guys, we're black squa- gold squares with black centers. Everybody else is wearing stars and galaxies. I have four black holes. That absorbs all energy and outranks everyone. Oh my god, he's wearing a black hole! Yes, yes. And this thing gets back to something else we've talked about. You see, You let the flamboyant, you let the ones come in have all the pickle smoking mirrors routine, you know the regalia and I'm telling you again remember back in the 90s the real secret police, the real official ones have no insignia guys. No ID, no markers, no rank, no nothing, just an all-black uniform. They were pushing that big time. But you know what was cool about that? If you had a black BDU set and a black patrol hat, You could do anything. These idiots in Michigan, the state police here, were so conditioned to that they might as well click their heels and give the Imperial Salute. Seriously. We walked into the cop shops where these county deputies were so conditioned, walked in with a coffee cup, a clipboard, a black uniform, a black bomber coat, a black t-shirt, a black patrol hat. And literally they opened the doors all the way to the sheriff. And none of them had any idea who we were. Not a single last one of them. You must be special! You have to rank on your own meal! You have to rank on your own thing! You have to ultimate a black uniform! Sickle police! Yaaa! And they would hold the door and even ask maybe if you needed more coffee. That's, that is deep, deep, repetitive, communist, dogma slash, you know, I should say not dogma, no, it's actually, that's just absolute like dog conditioning. Oh, someday I will have a uniform with no insignia and no rank and no nothing and I will be super secret police! Yaaaa! That's how they act people. Yeah. Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun. Like an enthusiasm most disconcerting. Why has somebody not, by the way we gotta do this, Don. Guys, we were talking about this this weekend, Don. I'm gonna show you, we're talking bouncing off stuff, you know, in the evening. uh... why is nobody got a video with dark later choking hillary clinton where you know what you have i find your luck of it you ever read other just with his fingers from a distance right and all that hillary's going cop and that she's like a trick water and you see later to bring his fingers together a little closer and it's like a lot of and she struck She's still trying to do the speech and it gets worse and worse. And then if you were, what would be fun is you could do a little, that's where you have to do some CG work or play with some other images. You have her flopping over. Hillary was not following orders at the 9-11 event. She was rather contentious. And then again you see his fingers come up and you see her out by the road there at the curb going, technology accepted. Why has somebody not done this yet? Seriously, it would be so much fun. You get it out there, it would go everywhere, people. Did it have a gazillion hits real quick? Yeah. You know, and other continents, like more than a hundred million people will be watching this. And you could, on top of everything else, you could also, for instance, Vader could be Soros, of course. And then you, I mean, granted, we know about the Trump thing, but since you want to play everybody on the Trump thing, here's how you do that. You know, only a master of evil, dar. Right? Only it's only you have Trump. You've seen all these little videos where they've done that. Where you have Trump saying that to Soros or to Hillary. Right? You're only a master of evil, Darth. Obi-Wan has taught you well. Yes, Trump- Obi-Wan has taught you well. But you're not a Jedi yet. But just ideas guys, bounce it off now, we gotta do it now, somebody out there hopefully pick this ball up, run with it, run with that puppy. Hillary Clinton choked by Darth Vader, a little video, and then he and him going, this is cuttin', and he chokes her again and stops. Every time she starts watching this, wow, remember the punk in the background, the VP, where eventually if you watched when she was choking for so long, Eventually he's just staring at like a 45 degree angle at the ground and he's not doing any more of the rah rah and he's like, oh god, how did I get on this bandwagon? All the clowns on this bus? Yeah. Oh my god. So anyway, a couple of things. What you can do also is do Emperor Propitene as Netanyahu. Yes, yes, yes, exactly. And especially since you've got, well, Soros and Palpatine look pretty close too. I mean, that's what's really funny. As far as the altered Palpatine, you know, the one where he's got the muddy eye, you know, the clay eyes, you know, messed up and everything. That would be kind of cool. It actually would fit perfectly. Most people would think he didn't alter it. You know what I mean? Nothing, honey is looking pretty bad too, but Soros is looking like, you know, deaf-formed over, and he is. I guarantee it. I don't know how many transplants he's had yet. How many screaming naked china would have been dragged into the surgery and had their heart ripped from their living chest to be stuffed into his. God knows. You put Sirls right next to Hillary Clinton, they look almost exactly alike. You're not supposed to say that out loud. Yeah, she's catching up with him is what it comes down to. I see the family tree being referenced. Oh, that's where you do that, I am your father. Whoo! Whoo! And he had Hillary going, ahh! And then tomorrow you see her on the news saying, my major enemies are the Republican Party and the people who built that video. Yeah, that's right. That's why the herbs nuked us because of that video that was done about me. Oh my goodness. Blah blah blah blah. You guys. So we're only moments away from the clown show? Yeah, oh yeah, is that right? It's supposed to be at nine. I didn't even pay attention. You know, it's like, is there something? Yeah, there's a clown show going on tonight. In fact, a high, high board, low board, whether that should be able to fall over sideways. You know, if they can't use, I'm going to be serious about this, watch how she walks. If they can't use a stool, which they're claiming they can't, and by the way, that's another thing I had this big debate, the big argument back and forth. Guys, it debates everybody used to sit down. If you weren't the one debating, you sat down when they had points. And then when it was like final discussion, free play, you get to go to each other, then you go yapping at each other and stand up. But the way they've set this up, and they did it to themselves, because they haven't been doing this for quite some time, but traditional debates. If you watch the images of Lincoln, back during the Lincoln-Douglas debates, Lincoln will be up and the other will be sitting down and the other Douglas will stand up and Lincoln will sit down. And then there will be the, you know, there are reenactments of this which are exact historically correct reenactments of him going up the mountain. We could play whack-a-mole. Yeah. Well in this case with Hillary the Hutt, remember guys, she's as crazy as the days long but they're not going to, they claim they're not going to do whatever which I think is BS. You watch, still a commentator. Well there was a big set of rules in the beginning that it was going to be an hour and a half with no breaks, but now I understand there's going to be a 15 minute interval. Oh yeah, that's what he had to do to get that. Well pay attention to which way the eyes are going, the part of the hair, and the length of the index fingers. Yeah, if she changes on the way back out, you know, in other words they go out and they do the, you know, like big time wrestling, she has to earn off the stage tag the other one. The other one is. Quick, touch me quick. Yeah. Well the other thing is exoskeleton. It sounds weird, but it's not because I've already seen these. The University of Michigan, they do these already. To do something would be like literally a pogo stick up somebody's arse. Realistically, to take weight off her. I could see that happening. If she wears a total pantsuit and she's wearing the frock slash the potato sack today especially, It is highly probable that they would have gone to a lightweight support. And you can actually build it. It wouldn't be that hard. The biggest thing is it is not restriction in travel. It's the idea that you've got to lock it into place so that the numbskull can't fall over, or at least so she's not using as much energy to stand up. But it would be literally a stick up your arse. It would be like your appearance is also because Hillary's not going to be caught in a skirt. No, that's not for this. I had to get an operation ball. Hillary won't wear a dress. Yeah, that's from the past. That's not now. This is because of other stuff going on here. Real quick, before we go any further, I've got to touch on this guy's note. Ed, don't bring up the music quite yet. CDN and investments, like I said, they got more of the mags or they got more of the bags in. I think they sold out of the mags. 10 AK47 30-round steel mags with a black bag, $400. A center fire has a similar solution with a center fire, I think is who it was. 10 mags for $100 and 5 3-cell mag pouches. So this is a nice little combo deal. If you've got AKs and you were looking for more mags, because all those mags fit in that bag. Which means load the mags up, put them in the bag, hang them by the door, breakout kit or fire power kits. And what we do with stuff like this is like the chest, they finally have the chest rigs at the center fire that they haven't had them for like three going on four years. They finally got them in, they're like $6,990 a piece. We use those for 20 round AR-15 magazine battle ears. They go right in the 20 millimeter can as is, load it up, and when you open up the can you grab a battle ear and throw it at somebody to replace what they had. Here you go, more mags. Here you go, more mags. Here you go. You don't go, here's a mag, here's a mag. No, no. You grab it just like you would any other band. We're only really nicely built. And you go, here, take two of these. Here, take two of these. Or here's one for you, one for you, depending on how many people you've gotten, how much you've got sitting there in the can. How many cans you have. So just a heads up, again that's at CDN and Investments. It's in their email specials. They've got 10 AR mags for $100 plus a bag. They've got the AK mags, 10 and a bag for $100. Same price, two different kits. Now they're both black, so they probably just said, well, slide the black bag over. In other words, the tan ones, they used up. Now they're going to the black. Also, again, flat top ARs. Down's got this night vision and the thermal technology on the shelf. The quickest way to accommodate that if you're going to build an AR, and most every one of them are now, the carry handles are okay and you can buy them separate. Luca Zane has been doing that with using the add-on carry handle, so you get that with a rifle for the rear sight. But the flat top, you're ready to roll with Don's night vision or with the thermal. And they're built, you know, they're big, and if that breaks, your gun breaks. You know what I mean? It's machined right into the receiver. So, if it's done, it's done. That's all there is to it. And it isn't likely to happen. If that happens, probably everything's pretty well, you know, ver-shimmelt anyway. It's, you know, it's out the window. It's like broken. It's kaput. It's like, oi, I'm telling ya. What are we gonna do? Anyway, we have to go to where we are heading now. Oh my god, what did you do? Yeah, first we put the truss on her, that sucks everything in. Then you add the massage midget to that and everything's fine. But it's a tiny little head. Well they all do, sir. They're all pinheads. It's okay, don't worry about it. Anyway, we should be hearing the music. We are at the top. Hey, if you're looking for night vision, go over to the website. That's Y-D-T-O-E dot U-S. If you have any questions, like what will this do or should I buy one of those compared to that or what is the real price? Give me a call. My number is 2317968458. And that music should be coming right up. In fact, Edward! Actually, he might have been tied up trying to... Well, I'm sitting here watching the presidential... the beginnings of the debates, and we could... we could exit stage left with the March of Canberra. That would be fitting. God bless the Republic! He'd kick him till he don't be sealed. Only number for night vision would be... take us out. Hey, that's phone number. Liberty Knits us all! of the revolution. Thank you for listening to Liberty Tree Radio dot 4 mg.