It was one of those things that wasn't pushed upon us, it couldn't be. Because we understood what our foundational components were, what our foundational beliefs were. That's been fogged, that's what's going to have to be clarified again, guys. We'll work on that, it can be done. Anyway, Don, you know, we're for Night Vision, the web page, you can be sticking around for a minute, you gotta go. I can be here till the bottom, Mark. Oh, I'm on it, well let's just close out for the hour, but go ahead and give all the information, we'll take a break. Hey, the phone number is 231-796-8458, you'll need that if you want to find out the real price of anything you see there on the website, you know the website Y-E-G-O-E dot U-S and you know, how's that go here? Here comes the break you guys, we'll be back in a couple minutes. located in the heart of Ohio's hunting industry. Let us help you find the right shotgun or rifle for you. 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You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate and your Christian values can't be taught According to the state you read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame number You traded in your name You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seasonally farm. And keep our country deep. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children can be... Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear? O sons of the Republic, arise, take us, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land. Preserve our great republic and eat God given right and pray to God freedom burning bright. As I awoke he'd vanished in the mist for when his words were true. But we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each God given right, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep, what would be your answer? he called out from the grave. east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. Afternoon to the Aleutians, the Bering Straits, and let's not forget Guam, that everybody wants to forget, and that one congressman thinks he's going to flip over and think. Watch the video. Oh my God. And the man has it on public record. Well, if all the people slide to one side of the island or go over to it, you know, the island could capsize and then sink. And everybody, the Admiral Listening, thought the guy was joking. He's waiting for the punchline and he's waiting for the punchline. And there wasn't any punchline. Yeah, the punchline had already been delivered. This is in our federal interest. Yeah, you're going to, you're what? And you know what, the, the, the, Edmo had to just sit there and grin and bear. I mean, I had to literally stay calm, stay calm. Don't go, no, no, I know what you're going to do. I know what you're thinking. Stay calm. I want to bring up something real quick here. Well, first of all, benchmark the date, please. I'm sorry. 20 seconds. 2016. Beautiful, wonderful day. 22nd September 2016. Do we still have Mark? We might have a caller. Our caller, well, to it. Caller everybody, stay right here for a second. I just did something. I was going to mention it. We've been in our discussion here for the last hour. CDNN Sports has had a couple of bag bubbles like they've done in the past where you buy a bag and you get a whole bunch of mags in it, right? Well, guys, when we started the program, they put the new listing up and they had a bag full of AK mags and a bag full of AR mags. It's $100 for 10 AK mags with a black shoulder bag that's really a nice bag. Then they do have 10 AR-15 223 30 round mags and a bag in Coyote Brown for $100 also. While we were doing the program in the last half hour, they put it up because the sale started. While we just went to break, half an hour later, it took about 30 minutes, I watched and the page blinked and the AK mags aren't there now. It took half an hour guys. Whatever the batch or pile of inventory they had, usually they do big piles of those, have like a hundred or two hundred of those bags ready to go. They went through them in half an hour. They still have the tan bag with the, you know, ten, their C mag Air 15. It's a good price. It's not a bad price. You get a nice carry bag. It's a bug out bag like we said. It's a mag bag. But it's a utility bag. You could use it for something else. You could use it for a medical kit bag, to be quite honest. It looks like it's the right size. And when you look at it, look at the 30 round mags sitting next to it, and you figure it out. But the AK mags bundle $100 for 10 mags with a black bag, exactly like the Coyote Brown one, in 30 minutes. I said before, the inventory is shallow. Although in this case, like I said with these, I know I've talked to these guys, oh, we've got a couple hundred of this. Usually when they do the bags, they do quite a few. Some of our friends listening have taken advantage of these packages every time they've had them up, because it's been a pretty good deal. The red backpacks, remember the blue backpacks? They had the AK mags in one. They had the red or blue AK in one, AR in the other. Remember that, thermolds? And then you've got a pile of them. The bag was filled, literally. Same thing only with a different bag and different kind of mags and the steel mags are gone. The steel AK mags are gone. I was going to mention, we were going to come back and say, hey, by the way, guys, just a quick note. Well, I can't do that. Just to give you an idea, guys, of how things are moving. And there's no discussion in the controlled media. Basically, it's like a lot of other stuff. We don't talk about that because then more people would think to do it. So just a heads up. Anyway, do we still have our caller there? Yes, can you hear me better this time? There we go, sounds good. I just know it. Okay, I want to say I've been listening to you gentlemen since 2008, the first time I caught one of you guys when Mark went on Alex Jones show. I listened to Alex Jones for about 6-7 months and dropped him because, you know, obvious reasons. I have a lot of respect for you gentlemen and I just want you to understand that first off. My name is David, I'm calling from Arizona. I used to live in Rochester, New York. I called in a few times. You may recognize me. And we'll just go from there. You made a good choice. I'm serious. First of all, we're not arguing with you like PG&T. First of all, we're not arguing even. See, this is what I was talking about. This is what a Senate or this is what our Senate and our House were for. The conversation that you brought up and the way that we're acting here, this is how it's supposed to work. This is the whole point. But first of all, let's back up here. First of all, we didn't have enforcement the way people think enforcement now. In fact, if you go back to the television, and television was engineered just like movies are engineered, but if you remember, they touch on it, but it was always like, there's old Ralph up there in the back 40, and he has a mule, and Ralph He doesn't get along with everybody, but Ralph is there. You'll notice nobody in gun smoke bothered Ralph. But Ralph was not the guy that went to Sunday church every day, you know, like on Sundays. And Ralph was, you know, you might even, it turns out that Ralph had a, Ralph went to prison. Ralph still had a gun, and Ralph still had property, and Ralph could still vote. But Ralph was like, you know, the stigma was that, well, I've been in prison. I keep to myself. But it wasn't that you could do something to Ralph because he'd been to prison. The whole turnaround here and the most important thing to understand is that the movers and the shapers understood that there are variations in people. We had several sub-mechanisms that were in our society that are missing. The Society of Man and the Society of Women, number one. The society of man is very different from the society of women. Women have very specific physiological differences that simply, no matter what you try to wish, however you try to pull it out of your ass, are never going to change. They're going to. George Orwell talked about what their plan was. uh... adlils huxley talked about it and it and it was all it's all in the long run it will be catastrophic failure but by god they will try to fail and destroy us in the process and they don't care because who's gonna hurt other than us the power freaks that we are dealing with are going to continue to do what they're doing in the past we had no more than a sheriff in this country we didn't have a homeland security we didn't have a stinking state police state police weren't part of our whole history they're part of the betrayal of nineteen thirty three Let's remember what we've always talked about here. There won't be any state police if we have our way. Oh, that's making 10,000 people or 20,000 people in Michigan cringe. Yeah. But where did the state police of each state come from? And by the way, you're in a good state in Arizona. Remember, when you hear visitor from the past, there's a lot of good people, even though they may be in different jobs. Arizona had the old or traditional attitude with regard to how you dealt as a peace officer as opposed to this whole idea of enforcement. When you were the sheriff for instance the sheriff, you know, I don't know if everybody's caught this caller Have you seen this out where you are where they've been doing articles where the lime ease the Brits? You know like what you have with all the rest of control media are talking about how all of our system is passé Because we have all those old stupid things that England got rid of have you had anything like that in the news out there? I don't know the new series an embarrassment going on a public is non news uh... the television networks uh... what they present on the internet and the it's lost you don't really get much anything as far as actual good news and even what i what i mean by that is to see when we do articles what they do is that there's a projection right now the big projection i'm seeing is well for instance like we have all these pass a things that england got rid of like sheriffs and and grand juries they actually are beating on getting rid of beating the gong on destroying the grand jury system Well, of course the socialists that are in England want that. That's why they're screwed and they're in a toilet flush and they're spiraling down right now. Because before that, what was the big thing that they bragged about here? And I brought this up in the last 20 years. They had a celebration about the destruction of Magna Carta. They had a celebration about the breaking of Magna Carta. Now, Magna Carta did several things. One of them which nobody wants to talk about because everybody's been conditioned here, but it put chains upon the Jewish institution to manipulate the government of England. What it did is it caged them so they could not manipulate the crown. It was the merchants, which of course are people in the middle class, and it was other elements of society. The people as a whole could see what was going on with foreign interests manipulating their country. their tribal interest. Now what's interesting is that remember, well of course the problem with the monarchy is they do go out and arbitrarily tax and that's something that we also, a lot of people just didn't like because you build stuff up, you try to keep your family fed for maybe 200 days out of 365 and they come out and take it so you're starving all 365 days instead of maybe just 156. Well, Mark, I got something that ties in directly to that. And it was something I was thinking about, calling about, until I heard what Don said, and that kind of changed my mind. Well, let's run back to that. Let's run back to that, because I've only got a few more minutes. Yeah, do it, Don. Let's reference some history here. Lincoln said about a different subject. Two people so completely different can't exist together. We brought up the thought line, and it's not a thought line, it's a fact. Britain has, did you know, two tiers of justice now. They have the English system of justice and there are 88 seria courts in England now. And I don't agree with that. Well again, this is where we're going. That's a nation divided. What would that... Those are alien courts. A nation divided cannot stand. And I don't agree with that. But me as an agnostic, how would this affect me? I mean, I don't even understand... Well, we have the right to believe what you want to believe. If you don't believe in God, I can't force that down your throat. I just don't understand. stand what God is. I'm not saying I don't believe in it. I'm saying I don't think anybody knows. Listen, the limitations are where your religion starts crossing the line where you have the permission or the right or the moral belief that you can hurt somebody else. And our culture and our Christian culture and community here in the US, that's not acceptable. We accept freedom of belief. believe freedom or religion. You can do whatever you want, you can preach whatever you want, but as soon as you cross that line where you're starting to hurt other people, that's where... the line is drawn and people retaliate and they're justified in doing so. Well let's go ahead and I know everybody's got a passion on this. Go ahead, jump in there. I completely agree with what you just said. The minute you start and what is to me, what I believe is a universal right and wrong, people may make up a lot of excuses. In fact, that's what I think government is. It's a way to make up an excuse to break Probably the most primary rule. The problem is there is no universal right and wrong. We like to make it sound like there is, but there isn't. This is part of where I wanted to go with this, number one. Remember, let me give you an example as we talk about sheriffs. My image of a sheriff growing up is a guy in a pickup truck wearing the same clothes you and I wear, but he wears the badge for the short time that he's at work. That's how I grew up with a sheriff. Seriously, it wasn't a whole fleet of squad cars and everybody had to have the latest challengers so they could take your tax money and ram down the road at 180 miles an hour. Which is what most of those kids are doing right now because they got your government pays for the toys so they will keep the Fruit Loop small brainers in those seats to come out and enforce that later on other things when the time comes. In the past, the sheriff is nothing more than a regular person. who is given a little more authority to be a peacekeeper so that we don't blow each other's brains out. But beyond that, whatever you're doing, you're doing, when you pass somebody, Ralph's out back making some bizarre construction in his backyard and he's welding stuff together and he's playing with his toys. And you see Ralph do that, and Ralph's yard doesn't look as pretty because he's got extra little clunky junk in it. You don't mess with Ralph. You wave at Ralph as you go by. Why? Because Ralph sent his property doing his thing and he ain't bothering you. Why are you going to go piss with him? See, that's the way it is with everything, even with the idea that you have a different concept or an idea based upon personal life's experience about where you need to be. But you're not. The thing is, like I said, the representation here is you're over there, I'm over here, we're pretty much still of like mind. The one thing you were talking about with morals, we have the same basic philosophy, and even if you don't believe in Christianity, the basic premise of most everything you do, which you argue are general morals, and I've seen that that is not true. I'm not trying to be mean on that, but there is a wicked society that can be allowed to step forward if we are not careful. The social mores can disappear. very quickly and given the opportunity, the one thing we, even in our society, we, the term casual killer applied and should to a, I think it's a needful thing because there's just some people aren't going to be fixed and we'll get away with, God knows what, murder and mayhem. Watch what's happening right now on the East Coast. People should be armed. People should be able to wield lethal force to protect themselves from any bodily harm. not to go do harm to seek people out and do damage to them for the fun of it. That's what you see happening. That's why people say, oh I have a right to go out there and rape pillage and burn. No, no you don't. But somehow, through the process of lack of a standard, we now have people who believe and have fully embraced the idea and have always lived with the idea that they're going to be able to go out and do anything they want to anybody else because they've got some special ticket to do it. Well, wouldn't the ultimate rendering of morals simply be the golden rule? That's exactly what the nation was founded upon though. Now, hold on. There's something else I always want to talk about here. See, I grew up in a very, very... If you were to call anybody, you could call me liberal, be quite honest. In what is the traditional sense, let me point out, if I go to a home of a Buddhist family, should I not respect their social moors inside their household with regard to custom? Do I not have the brains and the wherewithal to do that? I was taught to be that way. Granted, I'm an American, so you're going to get some American in me. But this is something that has always passed to me, that it is more, when you go overseas, What's the rule of survival, escape and evasion? Do as the natives do. So I don't go in there and wag my... I'm going to be an American. I know the old story. Remember you said, what was that book? Remember, The Other American. Okay, I'm still going to be an American, but I'm an American that has a brain. I have social mores. I understand the intricacies of the world. And I've always argued that it is more... What makes the world interesting or exciting has been the great diversity. But the diversity is based upon tribalism which is needed. It is necessary and there is nothing, there is no significant switch that they can come up with that is going to change that with the population of this planet. Now we are told that we need to change and right now we're dying because of that. Japan is told and they bought into the, they drank the Kool-Aid and they're dying right now too. But all the rest of the populations of the world who originally would always look at us as the benchmark for, they now see us as the petty weakness. The incompetent, the somehow feeble-minded or insane. And now we're not, and that was an accident. That's something people aren't of interest to participate in. They are looking down on us appropriately. In the past, the reason that we were a benchmark, a beacon, a light, is because we established a standard. And we weren't perfect. We'll be the first to tell you, in fact the Christian ethic even describes that. Many of the Christian faiths intentionally incorporate a glitch in their philosophy because their argument is man cannot be perfect. Okay? But what you brought up is the rule that we should all follow, the golden rule. Yeah, that's what I cling to most when it comes to morals. I think it's quite simple. It makes quite fun. Let me point out, where did that come from? That's the word that Jesus on the mind. That's exactly. That's western philosophy, brothers. That's western philosophy. Well again, the reason I bring up the thing about slavery is because again, slavery is coming back. I've tried to explain this, but guys, I'm going to tell you, if we do not fight this war, not just here, because everywhere else guys, Slavery is already on people's lips. I am dead cold serious about this. You've got right now the Jews are selling kids out of the Ukraine for what, $8,000 a hit? You can buy an eight year old and you can murder, you can rape them, you can sodomize them, you can do whatever and then when the Israelis are done with them, they can slit their throats and throw them off to the side because they're nothing but animals. There's a slave trade, yeah but you see here's the thing, it's an adult slave trade too. Kuwait, remember I said this years ago, before you were listening even. When we had to go fight for the Kuwaitis, yeah right, while the Kuwaitis were in the Egyptian casinos gambling, we had to go get our asses shot off. And then when we got there, what did we find? The Kuwaitis had 10, 12, and 14 Korean women and men locked up in closets, and they were their virtual slaves. It's never changed. They're still doing what they did. Remember, it was argued more slaves were sold to the Middle East than anywhere else to the Muslims, by the way. These people, what they do is when they come into the country, they would take their passport and then they were living in a walk-in closet. It was like stacked in rack four cots deep, high, like a Three Stooges movie. It was like living in a submarine. and their job was to be the slaves that maintained that little koinok for that family that was part of that little Kuwaiti royalty and everybody is a prince in Kuwait, even if they're not. So the slavery, that's polite slavery, but here's the thing, how many people do you think were murdered by them? And the only reason they didn't is because we're around for a little bit. Because otherwise, go ahead. I would say if somebody is not truly psychopathic, they would have to be rationalizing that this person is somehow not human or less than human or something. There has to be some form of rationalization to get around that consciousness. Unless they are truly psychopathic, they have to look at somebody as less than human. They have to come up with a name for them. They have to marginalize them. But that always, right, I agree with what you're saying, that's always been the case. That's something that, again, no matter what we're going to be fighting, you're always going to end up with somebody deciding they really don't like the fact that you're doing what you're doing, especially us, with what we've established here. We've had problems, we had our own internal conflicts, but we have been the trade house. for anything else good that's happened in the last couple hundred years. I don't care what anybody says. The monarchists could not get away with more. They had to deal more politely with their, what is that term? Subjects. The people who had slaves had to ease up because everybody's hairy eyeballs started to turn on them. And remember, even after we had that American Civil War, which we could have avoided completely were it not for the skanks wanting to pillage the South, Slavery would have been done away with, peaceably, the way it could have been done other places, but because of what happened, and either way, because slavery was done away with it, we had the economic power to back it, most of these other parts of the planet had to either hide or change the name for their slavery, because the people themselves wouldn't put up with it in their own countries based upon what they could see us doing here. Mark, I have a question based on something you touched on earlier. You were talking about the sheriff. Now, I've been to the Knob Creek Machine Gun Shoot twice. Am I correct to say that there's zero police presence there? No, no. The locals are there and it's the sheriff's department that's there, typically. They're around. They're just typically going around playing close. They're just there because it's a great excuse to be at the machine gun shoot. Trust me. But there is no real, there is no, there is no enforcement there because it's the old story, it's like going to any gun show. If you start something it's going to end real fast. Now I've been using Knob Creek as an example for what I feel America should be. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. I think it's a perfect example because it's not just people aren't doing crime. People aren't swearing too much. People aren't littering. People aren't pushing each other in line is probably one of the most respectful events and you find every color, every creed, man, woman, child, complete utter respect amongst the populace there. I've been using that as an example when I'm debating other people about policing powers and such. Right. The sheriff was a minimalist. Remember, this is where when we talk about, and this is a good subject to bring up because we've never In this country, it's only in recent times that this national police garbage and all this other BS was plugged in. It's now in your living lifetime. Before that, even that didn't exist. For the longest time, look at how many decades the Patriot movement held back the idea that we needed a stinking national police force called Homeland Suck-Eurity. That does not exist. The Founding Fathers never allowed that. Never. And they know exactly... Go ahead. the video on YouTube last night of a Homeland Security arresting a homeless woman on the streets in Portland, Oregon. And that's the first. I had never seen that before. Before that, remember, when we were bringing as a morphist The closest thing they had before was regional police, which was step one. Regional police were tied into FEMA. That was the direction they were originally planning on going, but we hammered the FEMA issue to the point where they had to redirect their energy. So they went right into literally creating a national police force. We did not have any of this. This is where if everybody listening gets one thing out of this today, guys, the first thing is we never had all these layers of cops. We didn't have all this kind of nonsense going on. I was thinking about this. It's like even with quote unquote fees. Number one, it was not a professional position to be in any township or county government at all. If all those positions were part time, you got a stipence and otherwise don't you go messing around with Fred's house, Bob's house, Mark's house, Dom's house, don't you go dinking with him? If you do, all the rest of us guys will come and we'll take you out behind the barn and by the time you're done, you won't be dead, but by God, you'll remember we came over to visit. See that's the other hand. Go ahead, I'm sorry. I have the city of Casa Grande trying to charge me $47 and change a month for a sewer bill. and they apparently, one billion people since 2012. Now mind you, I'm in an unincorporated district of Pinal County, so I'm not even under their jurisdiction. They sent out a letter about, six months ago, asking for my I.D., my Social Security number, this, that, and the other, and I didn't fill it out because it looked like BS to me. I called up, apparently there's a district, which they couldn't explain to me what it is, they couldn't say if it was incorporated or not. I called up this district individual who I was directed to through the documentation and they could not excite one law, they may be responsible to pay this bill. And now I have a bill supposedly for almost $50 a month I have to pay when I don't even live in the city. And it also says that you have to be a member of this Denver VISTAs sanitary Sometimes you have to be a member of it. I look through all the documentation from when I purchased this house and I never signed anything that made me a member of it. So I'm kind of curious, if I do not live in this city, how could it possibly even come after me? If you're not under their jurisdiction, they've just used your jurisdiction. See, that's part of the problem with what, can Don's running, I haven't had any conversation with the most recent fiasco, but Don's been having some fun with things in a similar vein, haven't you Don? Oh, it's fun mixing up the time law deal with the local government. But here again, what this is is these usurpations are because they've been taught how to impose these actions. And these are these contrary convolutions that have come from the Fed through funding, through money. And they're told you can assume. You're just going to assume power. You can assume power. People are stupid. When they're in their own circles and they're amongst themselves, the bureaucracy believes that we are all just the rubes to be scalped. Let's examine that. And they talk that way. They really do. That's why they don't want it. When you show up at a township meeting, I watch this all the time here. When you show up at a township meeting, they're like deer in the headlights. Well, what do you mean? Why are you here? Why is anybody here? Nobody's ever here to listen to what we're saying. And they freeze because they don't know what to say. Well, we can't talk the way we normally would about the peasants because I don't know what peasants in front of me. They must think of us like that because, you know, in your county, no matter what county across America, there's probably some guy that comes out and says, why are you digging that hole or why did you build that shed without a permit? Now I'm going to have to order you to take it down and I'm going to have to fine you for building it without a permit and everything else every other way you can reach in your pocket. Now about 10 years ago, Michigan Supreme Court said that those people here in Michigan have no legal standing. They have no right to come out and tell you not to dig that hole, not to build that shed, not to build that house, not to garden, not to cut down a tree. They have no right, they have no jurisdiction. The Michigan Supreme Court said so, but they still have a job, and I still have to go in and deal with them people, and that pisses me off to no end. Pardon my French. Like you are out there, it's like they're assuming, what they're doing, in many cases, California we've been saying the same thing, Arizona's not as bad. But Arizona's got a problem because you've still got a checkerboard. That's where your problem is. You have the invasion that took place back in the late 80s, actually through the 80s into the early 90s. And the 90s was really bad. But Arizona is not like, at least it's not as bad as it was, say, in the 90s, which is 20 years ago. When they first came in, the Carpetbagger Californicators brought all their drivel with them from California and tried to shove it down Arizona's throat. They still haven't peeled all of it back, but it's not as bad as it was. to exit stage south. I appreciate your call. I appreciate your patience with me. Again, this is something that we can agree on. Maybe 98% of our problems. Part of it is what we're supposed to be doing. First of all, I think if we were all set down and again, part of it is vocabulary. how we've been taught because of different ages about, even when we use words, how we perceive a word and what it means as opposed to what another generation might perceive a word to mean or another person from another part of the planet, this country. And when it comes to the thing about enforcement, Well, first of all, that word is going to be taken out of our vocabulary quite dramatically here pretty soon if we have this war because a good portion of all the stuff where they've imposed themselves upon us is going to be gone. And there isn't going to be anybody to enforce or overlord us in a lot of ways. But with regard to a social standard or a moral standard, you hit it on the head. The golden rule is the first rule, but it is a Christian ethic. It is something that unfortunately, well I won't say unfortunately, because of where we were, where we've been, how our country hit the ground, what window of time it hit. Everything is a matter of an act of either throw the dice or god, however you look at it, we were in the right place at the right time and it has literally changed the path of the world. But the path of the world is manipulated by many other people who didn't want that path changed. We are fighting, we have always fought, that whole thing about principalities. We are fighting groups of people and institutions that in their own right they feel that they are your gods, they are the overlords, that their feces doesn't stink and that you and I are all just again, cuzons, to be peed on. Imagine that which we have created tells us that it has a right to defend itself from us. I have to go Mark, but fearless leader, you know, Obama-Lamading Dong said that about a month ago. We need to surrender our freedoms so that we can have some good... there's no security without freedom and liberty. We can have to spend the rest of his life hiding, let's put it that way. Well he'll be behind, yeah, he's gonna be behind an iron guard. He has to be, if not part of the regime coming up. If he's part of the regime he gets a bigger iron guard. Thank you Don, thank you, God bless. And again, people, this is what I've said before. What do we want? And not only do we want when we win, because let me point something out. We're going into a war. If we don't gird our brain for this now, then we will be ill prepared and we can make horrible mistakes. The enemy would like us to all become barbarians, become ruthless, evil, wicked barbarians. In fact, they'd like to see us cast. In fact, their plan is to scrub the country out, and then plug in their globalist slash you have no loyalty to anything agenda. All the regimeists love that because again, what does most of the history of this planet constitute other than indentured servitude? I don't want to own anybody and my God nobody better think they're owning me. I will kill you. I am a free person. I don't expect anybody else. I don't want to own. You know, Dave, Don, all of our friends listening, ain't nobody out there, or anybody I don't know that I want to own. I can do for myself. I was taught by my parents to do for myself. In fact, a lot of people, I think, that's the thing that's exciting. Like when you talk about, you know, a bunch of people have liked mine to come to one place, but the energy is felt, the dynamic is phenomenal. And I don't get that with the suckers. I don't get that with the I-wants. When you go to an I-want thing, it's all, you know, there's a term I use, it's, you know, everything is plastic. It's fake. It's got the words, but you see, all the trappings of all these other societies or structures have always had the words, but when push comes to shove, what do you get? And that's the difference between what we have had, what we personally own, and this gets back to the liberty issue. And Dave, you know, there's guys listening that will go, well, the sheriff is this, or you know, there's a problem with the system is that, if we're going to peel this onion back, or more important I think it's just we're going to scrape the detritus off of our system. And it can't be done with any kindness because The creatures that are doing what they're doing to us are as wicked and evil as could possibly be imagined and the only thing that's restraining them is the one thing they keep jumping on. And you'll notice no matter what they talk about, they want to disarm you. It's never going to happen. But isn't that the theme? Everything, no matter what it is, they have tried to work disarming you every step of the way in the control media. Blah blah blah blah blah this and we need to get the guns. This happened and we need to get the guns. Hold on, let me give you an example. You just heard this. Remember the one character? Oh, thank goodness he used a bomb and not a gun. Did you catch that? He tried to work the gun thing in right away, didn't he? Go ahead, jump in there, please. They're going up against 4,000 TSI concrete with a titanium reinforcement when it comes to that. Yeah, but it won't sink into them because of the nature. See, we're not Russians. And I know we've probably got Russians listening, but you see, most all of these countries, even into their most recent, even when communist Russia, when they went to being communist and they said they've changed, everything was subservience, everything was to the state, everything was, you were just a different name for a subject. That's the difference between us and all the rest of those countries. Well, you've got to go every five years to a police station to re-license your guns. You can only have a total of five weapons and only so many of them can have a rifle bore. They've got all sorts of gun laws over there. Right. I've been mixed into it recently. Yeah, it's to dance on one foot. The bureaucracy with that kind of intricacy. The purpose behind that is it serves government, it does not serve the people or the individual. When you have intricate and compiled parts of this country, what did they do? You can only have a 10-round magazine. Some places you can have a 15-round magazine. But step over the line and all of a sudden it's a 5-round magazine. This arbitrary and capricious action is intentionally and purely designed to create confusion and the ability to create enforcement, to be able to apply energy against you and do harm to you. It is not beneficial to the society. It does not in any way, shape, or form protect anybody. All it is for is for the police state and for the state self-inggrandizement. That's why you see the problems that you're seeing right now. And again, where you are in Arizona, like I said, you've got unlimited carry concealed now, you've got unlimited carry open carry, except for a very small number of spots which are part of the overlapping laws, and eventually that will get peeled back and made to disappear if Arizona is smart, and I'm sure they're working on it. Go ahead. Back to this arbitrary, charge me a sewer bill. Considering I didn't find their documentation and I have no documentation that says I'm part of the Desert Vista Fanetary Group, and considering I do not live in the city of Casa Grande, do they have any ability whatsoever to put a lien on my property? Is that even possible? Well, that gets back to the old story of assumption because people have never challenged it. It's like everything else we see. Well, nobody's ever asked that question before. Well, of course they haven't because everybody's conditioned to the assumption that if you have a bureaucracy, the bureaucracy is self-serving and don't challenge it. The only one thing you're hitting on is, again, the idea of contract. If they did not get you into contract and they have some kind of association and it is a private membership association thing, you need to first confirm how is this membership achieved? Is it guilt by association because I'm just in the ballpark? Is it some form of association with membership that I was supposed to step forward and you have a form and I'm a member of that organization? Is it an institution that's part of the community that has some guideline or some edict written into the township or the county paperwork? Because that can be there. I mean traditionally that's something we did have in township and county construction years ago. But if you have it, you have to notify. You have to inform. You have to step forward. And this is why, again, bureaucracy was always minimal. While government has always been minimal, you have a very small number of actions like this that you would be participant in, and you can't be forced upon you unless it's in the initial or like the injection part where you come into the community. If a community has established a standard and they all agreed to that standard, you would have to be informed. In other words, there used to be, and this is a, I'll point out a mean subject that people don't want to talk about, but it used to be that segregation was administrative. When you sold a house, you had to sell a house to a certain type of person, and it was in the contract. It was part of the township or the county code, even to the point about religious elements. In other words, the Mormons did this or didn't do this, depending on where they were and how much power they had. The Catholics have done this, the Protestants have done this, and it was taken accord and they said this was, you know, eventually they got around to the thing where in the 60s and 70s, mostly in the 70s and 80s, this was unconstitutional. And so they threw a lot of it out, but that's where they're, what's funny is they threw that out, but they still kept these powers. And that's what they're using now. They're just using these assumptions of powers in another direction. But they still are supposed to go through all of the other forms in order for them to get you to participate. They have to inform you that you are part of this. They had to have a contract that's brought forward. Okay, we're going to do the house signing. And by the way, you're part of this. If you don't want to be part of this, we can't do the house signing. You see how that works? Well, and I completely agree, and that's why I didn't fill out the document, because it didn't look right, it didn't feel right, it didn't cite a single law. And when I called a representative of this desert vista sanitation institution, they could not explain if they were an incorporation. They couldn't tell me anything. In fact, in the end, they directed me to the city of Casa Grande. But are you hooked up to their sewer, though? According to... Well, they took over the... They assume powers, is what they do. If they assume the power from desert vista sanitation to Bill, that's what it says. And apparently, I don't know where this goes to, and I don't, you know, like I said, I had never signed anything that said I was part of this group. I was never informed. That's the direct need to move in right from the get-go is, again, how was I brought into this special, I mean, obviously it's a club. What is it, a club, an association, a regional or a district party group of some kind? What is this? I tell this woman about this. She would always answer, not answer this specific question, and then she would compare it to things like the water bill and your electric bill and all that, but I signed up for those. So she did not answer, she refused, and I honestly don't even think she knows. So, I mean, if you were me, who would you go to? Sure, you don't get a lien on your property. Like, this is a foot house. I will be selling it in August. So, I mean, if you were me, where would you go first step? Well, if you've already gone to the township in the county where you have to go first, and if they can't answer the question, then what you do is you ask them, where do I go? Okay, I need this question answered. You can't answer it? Who has the authority over your institution? Who is it that set these standards? Where did this come from? They have to answer. As a matter of fact, we pressed it in the 90s with a lot of the different mechanisms that were assumed into place and it comes back down to regulation. And regulation would no low legitimate authority. They know this, but they've been told because either the Township Association meetings they went to at the state level or the County Association meetings they went to at the state level, the Fed came down and told them how to do this, how they could take additional revenue. May I interrupt real quick? No, go ahead, jump in there. The Internet stream is not broadcasting, it's throwing out music at the time. Quite a while, Ed might be down or preoccupied. I just thought I'd bring that up. Ed's right there. Ed? It depends on which stream you're listening to. Liberty Tree Radio right now is going out live. I'm looking at it. Okay, I just logged on to Liberty Tree Radio at Sam Cloud and it's got song history and chasing the sunset. Okay, I'll take a look at that one. Just wanted to give you a heads up. Well, then I'll look myself because I can do the same thing from here, too. I'll go over here and we'll check to see to make sure. Because, and again, This is live recording, not a live, okay, our stream, new, live, I'll touch that, let's see what happens. Oh, I can hear myself. Well, it looks like it's actually live recording, but I don't hear. But that's because I've got the sound down too, so I don't blare in our ears and sound's like really strange when I hear myself, hear myself, hear myself, hear myself. That kind of thing. Okay, well, again, we'll see what we can find out. Ed's working on that, appreciate call. Don't feel the part, because it's like you. All right, the other streams were working fine. It was a cloud that was offline and it is back up now. There we go. Okay. Yeah, my county tax bill does have a new charge for Deservice Sanitary of $120 annually. That charge wasn't there last year. So that does mirror their documents saying that they were discussing and not charging us since 2012. I'm already paying 120 bucks a year to the county and that seems justified, but this additional bill. So I think maybe because I'm living under the jurisdiction of the county, maybe they would be the best people to go to and just don't even worry about the city of Casa Grande at this point. Well, find out why. Like I said, what happened is these towns, the counties, townships, they all go to these national meetings that are introduced by the Fed at the state level. And they probably went and they said, hey, here's some stuff you can try to pull. or they've been told and what they'll do is they'll come back and whether or not it's right, the idiots will implement it and then the Fed knows they're going to be sued, they're going to end up in court, it cost them more money than any revenue they thought they were going to collect and it creates animosities at the local end. But in some characters, again, they're looking at, oh, we can write this and we'll be able to spock it, you know, this percentage. And I can't emphasize that enough because I've seen it here. We've had graft and corruption all over the country for as long as the country has been around and it trades out as far as where it happens, depending on what scally way it gets into a public post. So it could be somebody interpreting that as opportunity and misapplying it, which is probably the case. So I would, again, go to the township, again, and ask them, well, where did this come from? You can't tell me what authority, so then where is the authority? Who is the authority? Who is it that has, again, the underlying final pen on this, the responsibility? And go to the county at the same time and take the bill with you and say, hey, this doesn't make any sense. I've got a real strong feeling that that document that I didn't sign was what was giving them the permission to send me this bill. And if you don't sign it, you're not in contract with them. To my understanding, I don't have to sign anything if I don't want to. Right, well in the past, like I said, the way they would do this is the realtors become like de facto enforcers. So back when you would be originally signing everything, the ideas that they would actually, in the past, traditionally what used to work, all of these social contracts would have to be presented to you first. And then after you sign those, then obviously you agree to everything, you know what we're doing, you know what the community does, and now you can buy the house. So now we'll finish the closing. So that's what traditionally they've done, you know, in the past with most communities for a long time. If you didn't generate the paperwork though, and you didn't get into the contract and they just let everything go ahead anyway, well, you didn't sign on the dotted line. So you're not part of that mechanism. It's that simple. some of my personal beliefs about government. I completely agree with the idea that everything should be laid out in that contract. When I first purchased that piece of paper, I really don't want to live in under anything that isn't contracted. I want all the rules that dictates on the table when I choose to enter that community. That's how it used to be. You see, this is part of what we're saying. See, this is the stuff that they attacked because it was part of sound government. But you see, you have this massive external bureaucracy that wants to impose itself. And this is where apples and oranges, this is where you get this mud that has developed now that doesn't make any sense. It does for oppressors. It does for people who either want to steal or are told they can plop themselves in a position to steal from one direction and impose somebody else's rules alien to your community from another, which is what they're doing. The education system is the same way. It's supposed to be local education, but look at all the garbage and debris and death that has been created by the Department of Education that has utterly destroyed our ability to teach. They're indoctrinating, but they're not teaching. Again, we're lowering the standards and lowering the standards and lowering the standards. Again, where did that come from? It didn't come locally. That came from these supposed experts that are so far away nobody sees them. and that's where the problem is. Every aspect of what should be the way the system works should be local. And again, if you don't have the money to spend it, you shouldn't be spending it. And if you do, it's very methodical, very narrow, very specific. And that's, you know, like a diamond cutter. First of all, the public trust is involved here and I don't have a whole lot of trust in any of the government anymore. I mean period, local, county, state, they're all failures. But then again, they're all commercial bureaucrats now. They are virtually of the English pattern in the modern sense, the socialist sense. And that is a pattern for failure, which is why you're seeing the problem that you're seeing. Again, minimalists, we take care of ourselves. So how would the roads be done? Well, that's what you're going to have to figure out. So you might want to do a little research and figure out how it is that we originally did this before we had the income tax and everything else. We had roads. We had canals. We had railroads. We had all kinds of stuff. We traveled around the country. How did we do it? We didn't have this big centralist regime, and yet we had a whole bunch of really cool stuff that worked just fine for us. And that could all be laid out in a contract when you purchase that piece of property. It could all be spelled out. It used to be, for instance, because somebody would hear, we have snow removal. You know that. You were up north. And people would say, well, how do they deal with that? Well, everybody kind of was part of the county road commission. And everybody had their area of concern. Or what they had was they had equipment that they purchased for the township in the county. Dave, you would work, say, Tuesday and Wednesday to do snow removal and you'd get a Stiffens from the township for doing it because your time is worth something. And then I would do the off days and I would get a Stiffens. And it wasn't a full-time job and I didn't have medical benefits and I didn't get a retirement out of it. It took care of the minimal needs to keep things operating and otherwise government stayed out of your hair. You see, when they built the roads, how did we build the roads? The same way. When it was needed, as it was needed, the energy was brought together, the money was brought together, the economic force, and it was mapped out. Decisions had to be made, people had to be part of committees, everybody had to be in agreement, sometimes people weren't. Even up until when I was much younger, guys, people say you can't fight City Hall. I've seen people walk in, pick up City Hall and move it down the street. An example is right here in Michigan, Expressways had to make a jog five miles to the south of the north because somebody, or a whole bunch of somebody said, no, you're not going to take my land. And they actually had to abide by it. See, that's the way things were. You had to cooperate and if somebody was not wanting to be part of your big game, then they really did have to listen. That's not the case now. Everything is bull over, everything is police state, everything is... And it doesn't mean that there weren't some wicked deeds, an example, railroads. And if you know about the railroads and some of the scurrilous stuff that went on there, and then the scurrilous stuff that came out of the railroads. Understand that yes, there are pluses and minuses. I take most of the pluses out of our American system any day over the garbage we're seeing now. And we could deal with all the rest of that in the past we did too. That's the part nobody talks about. Why is it they didn't continue to do it? Well, because once people found out what they were doing, we stomped the guts out of that. And that's where again, it's always power or counter power. It's not that you do it by yourself. And there's always other factions who really covet what those other guys are doing. They like to do it just the same. That's really where we've got the epitome of that now with what's going on with the Republicans and the Democrats. They're not telling you they want to make anything better. They just want to be in the driver's seat while they're busy going crazy town and stealing from everybody. Well, you know, again, what happened when push come to shove? All these Rhino Republicans are telling you they're going to vote for a Democrat, Hillary Clinton. So in other words, they're not really Republicans. They're something else. Well, what are they? They're crazy town loon power freaks who are used to feeding off your wallet, my wallet, in our lifetime, and they're now pissed because they might not be able to just play the game any old way they want. That's what I was stressed out drastically important. It is that we are having this conversation There's many venues where people are talking about the problem There's very few that actually talk about the solution So the fact that we can get together and express these ideas and that thousands of people can hear us This is what needs to go on because yeah the fights part of it and being upset is part of it But if we don't have a clue we're SOL and the first rule is simplified because again we if we're peaceable and Like you said, the kitchen table, the front porch is where we used to do all this. We had a meeting hall. Think about this. Look at our system in the past. We had a building the size of a one-room schoolhouse, and that was the township hall. Sometimes we used it for weddings, sometimes used it for funerals. Most of the time it set empty because we didn't really need it for very much. It was a nice place for everybody to come together so we didn't have to tromp in Mark's house or your house and muddy the place up. But beyond that, and it was a central point, it was a minimalist thing. Everything needs to be thought first of all, things are a lot more complicated. Whenever I hear that BS, that's a flim flam man. NPR says that 10 times a day every day. NPR loves that word. I put my list of them because I think you can put your finger on the pulse of their propaganda if you listen to NPR above the cable news networks and I tell you what, every day, 10 times a day, minimum, it's complicated. It's complicated. I know exactly where you're coming from on that. Somebody else's mind is better. No, we're all capable, especially