September 7, 2016
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1h 3m
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2016
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Mark Koernke discussed firearms procurement, ammunition pricing, and tactical equipment sourcing, including magazine availability from distributors like COPES and CDNN Sports. He analyzed the Ukraine conflict, criticizing Western forces while praising Eastern Ukrainian defensive tactics and discipline. The show covered night vision and thermal optics technology, their advantages and disadvantages, and proper light and noise discipline in field operations. Koernke emphasized realistic training methodology, personnel rotation, area security protocols, and the importance of motivated participants in preparedness groups.
- 9mm ammunition
- glock magazines
- ar-15
- ukraine conflict
- night vision
- thermal optics
- light discipline
- noise discipline
- tactical training
- preparedness
- firearms procurement
- cover and concealment
- field operations
- military training
- equipment sourcing
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probably still 60 to 65 percent of what's out there in the cop shops because seeing the latest orders, I was just looking at some of the gear from, what was it, just looking at the numbers for our, our bread is mostly a 9mm anyway, do make a .40 caliber bread, but it's a minority gun. HK, you know, the SIG production right now, that they're pretty well neck and neck, you know, the 9mm. Curious about the mags, they should be coming down, and in fact, there has been this wave of surplus mags that are now available, like from COPES. you know, copesdistributing.com. They've got a pile of them, so do one or two of the other companies. Don't know where they came from, but they're showing up with a whole ton of SIG 9mm and .40 caliber stuff. Right. Now PSA is also offering cards. Looking back at Talmetto now, you'll see a variation of a 9mm and some Glock mag in the combination, but either way, a millimeter and an AR-Platin 9mm handgun will probably, and 9mm is about what, half the price? If they always argue carrying more rounds and lighter weight, think about that. You're carrying two 9mm rounds for the price of one, two, two, three rounds. Urban operations or urban warfare operations especially, sub-guns were built for that niche, that particular area of interest. Looking at cost, you look at wolf, okay wolf 9mm, come on, it's a bargain basement. You know, for a lot less money you can spit a whole lot more down range when the time comes. And again, what are you applying the gun to do? Is it a suppression weapon? Are you using it for support or flanking support as a light volume fire weapon, which is really a good idea. Like I said, scissor the men. One volume fire gun on the left, one volume gun fire gun on the right, and meat in the middle. I don't care what the hell you're putting on range, but the more of it you can. More likely anything that was in that kill zone is going to get hit by somebody. Animal man's got some good deals, good prices on non-millimeter. You shop around, that's the thing. We've said before, shop around, be creative because if you already know you're going to commit to a caliber or if you know you're going to commit to a gun, the first thing you should be looking for, mags and ammo. Right off the bat and just start scarfing them up because you're not going to go wrong. Another interesting thing PSA's been doing is they've been like I said in those combination deals. Basically a battle equipment of a battle pack 200 rounds less than what you buy the typical for example the other day I ordered 30 caliber ammo can and 200 rounds by six shipping on that. While I was just shopping around here guys real quick I was gonna try and find the best price. Mmm, what just popped out from Cope's? They just got a whole pile of Ruger P95 magazines and 9 millimeter in. For anybody out there, it's got a Ruger and these are factory Ruger P95 mags used at their law enforcement trade-in. $19.99 apiece. I don't know if you get any quantity price. You would think they would do that, but right now they probably figured they can comfortably sell whatever they got. But that's on the land. It's at copestistributing.com. Copestistributing. Those are Ruger. But factory Ruger mags, $20 apiece. I'd say most of them are probably going to be in good shape. I see one in the picture, looks like it's just me maybe. Again, they're supposed to be in good, very good conditions, so well, maybe they consider us pretty good nowadays, I don't think. Anything else, sir? I'm just going to sit back and praise the Lord for you being back and Don being there with you and been praying for you and the family and all that stuff. Something else pops up out of the blue. Use British 303. rifles scope and used wait a minute. Wow. Cherry front sight standard for the beginner. It looks like they used a B-square scope mount guys but they're $330.99 a piece and they're in 303 British however they're in the category of being a fully supporter of unique thing also this uh... for anybody wondering what he says mark a whole bunch of these you're here p and jerry cancer sharpness they have polish romanian uh... somebody started by giving the kid ammunition guns like they were because it's all gone into the ukrainian war okay so i guess you'll cancel your question can find is what they're trying to drag over this way i've talked to the guys are the importers in the purchasing agents and It's basically, well, you've got to find something to sell and then they've got to try to figure out how to market it. You may have noticed price creep on the AK-47 mags, real ones. You know, the copies, there's some good prices out there, but even then, they're staying right in line with the price of like the Bulgarian and the Romanian and the Russian mags, if there's any Russian mags available. Why? Well, guys, Like I told you, these are the perishable items. In a wartime situation, this is why I've told you before, buy more mags, buy more mags, and when you're done, buy some more mags, and by the way, buy more mags. And I highly recommend you watch a lot of Ukrainian battlefield footage that's, you know, popping up right now. One thing that the Eastern Ukrainian people have is a legitimate argument. They've not invaded anybody. They have not gone to attack anybody. They are not going into the other side's land or real estate. This is purely one side of the offensive actions. are all taking place from the Jewish Rancheist or the filth out of the capital out of Kyiv. Otherwise, like they've said, you want to piss us off? In fact, there have been several messages, if you haven't seen them, they're telling the Western Ukrainian forces, you should go home. we're going to decide to get rid of you now. And if you don't go home, whatever happens, hey, we warned you. And I think what's going to happen is they're going to go the next step, which is before they've been trying to be decent, they round these characters up after they surrender if they aren't dead, and they call their parents and they've had their parents come and pick them up. Now, I don't know how much more of that they're going to be doing so much as just wiping these units out now. And they could. They could have done this every time the Eastern Ukrainian forces are far superior to the commissar run whipcrackers. It's really interesting. What you have is the Jewish communist commissars all over there on the western side. They're even pushing our boys. We're all slaves to the rest as far as the Jewish mafia goes. So the commissars are pissing on everybody on the west side. Every time they go out, just like what happened in Finland, the inferior number of forces just fight better because they know what they're fighting for. Okay? And what they've been doing is they've tried to explain to them, you know, this thing is unacceptable. You're killing our people, you're attacking our home, you're burning our towns. Well, I think what they're going to do now is something I've talked about. It's, you know what, kill them all, let nothing but a rumor of their destruction return. But everybody knows they're all dead. And I think that is, you know, again, if you give them point, you give them an opportunity, but after that you're finished with them. It's just like what's going to happen here. We can't compromise. There is no compromise with vomit and with, you know, poison. And at a given point you're going to end up having to do the right thing. It's just that simple. And we all know what we're going to have to do. Everybody's trying to avoid it, but that ain't going to work for very long. In fact, it's not going to work at all. Interestingly enough, what you get a chance to do if you watch the videos is take a look at consumption. Pay attention. Now the one thing about most of what you're seeing is the dynamic videos look really impressive because man, there's just ammo being spit down range. How much of that's hitting anything? Who knows? Mostly, not at all. Okay? So that's where the balance is. Remember Russian assault philosophy is just pour the ammo down range. It's been that way for a long, long, long time. It doesn't mean they don't have accurate weapons. They've got SPDs, they've got scope hunting rifles. They're using just as quickly and as successfully as anything else. Interestingly enough, we're back to basically the kosher run troops on the western side. the Jewish Ron Commissar whipcrackers, guys, they don't know how to use cover and concealment. They just don't do it. I don't know what this is. Every time that the Shysters get into this, it's we'll whip the puppies out and into the line of fire. On the other hand, on the eastern side, they're cover, concealment, fortification, whatever possible, but with the ability to be mobile whenever necessary, they're doing things right. And again, they're outnumbered 3 and 4 and 5 to 1 and they're just beating a living snot out of these kosher run pieces of trash. Again, lessons learned. Watch what's going on. Pay attention to what you see, because it's what they're going to do here. What you see over there is what the shysters, the POSs are going to do here. Same routine. It is very obvious. Well, I don't want to go before, before I don't want to step away from what we were talking about here. Magazines. So, it's distributing, but also CDNN Sports. Okay, CDNN Sports has sales, and I wanted to see, since we're looking at Glock frames, Don, let's see, www.cdnninvestments.org sports. We get here. Actually, I've got to use sports now, probably. CDNN Sports, darn. I usually don't do this while I'm doing the program, but we've got to do it this way. That's okay. Anyway, www. They've been trying to push over to that webpage and apparently that's the address they're doing now. Anyway, they always have weekly specials that are going on. In fact, they do have the new Ruger Precision Rifle, the bolt action. Looks like an AR type base, but it's a bolt action system. Only $1,300. Really? Well, that's really not bad. It's a modern rifle and it's in, of course, your choice of the 6.5 Creedmoor 308. But that's not what we're interested in right now. We're looking for magazines for our Glocks. Now of course when I would do this, it always turns out that when I'm looking for Glock mags, the AR stuff is up here. So I won't complain. If you're looking for a lot of AR-15 knickknacks and stuff that they've got on the discount for the week, this is the place to go. Myself and the Arse, I made a mistake and didn't place an order before yesterday for another company. They had The Picatinny rail is for like 85 cents a piece and I don't care what they are, they're worth 85 cents for adding on not just the weapons but other pieces of equipment or machinery. So, and I've talked about that, Picatinny rail is coming off handy with a lot of other pieces of equipment and machinery. So, see if I can follow up on another lead somebody gave me yesterday, this is one of the other wholesalers. I'll see if I can track it down. But, see any super exciting, I do see something that looks nice. 10 AR-15 223 30 round aluminum magazines with a coyote tan carry bag for $100 so it's like $10 a piece for the AR mags plus or minus and either it's a freebie or a couple of dollars for the bag either way not too bad otherwise you're gonna have to go there and check it out they've got kits of air kits and they've got a bunch of other air stuff that's sitting here in the special category but no pistols for the most part that I don't see any pistols. All AR-15 for this email special and catalog special for today. So there we go. Staff here has to start hunting around. I think the National will probably be CenterfireSystems.com. They usually are pretty good for having a lot of clock mags. If that's the case, then that might be another option. If we can get over to Centerfire. Go ahead, Doc. It's one big large chamber, it's just a carry bag is what it is. Okay, there's a point to be made here because if you don't have anything else you can grab from the right. and load your empties back into the left and continue to grab from the right. Great! See where we're going there, right? And you don't have to drop mags on the ground if you have half a chance. Now don't let that... don't even think that that's advice from Don. Because there's going to be times when you don't even think about where... how did that mag get in the gun and where is it now. But if you have the opportunity, Mark's pointed out many times, mags don't grow on trees. And they just tend to disappear and get stepped on and bent and crushed. But if you can cycle, if you have that time to cycle it back into whatever hand you are, left handed, right handed, make a habit of it, and until there ain't no more, there's always going to be a loaded mag in one side of your bag, right? And that's how to look at that, like an organization like that. Now, if it's really flexible, you might end up getting ahead of yourself. And toward the end, you pull out a mag and there's nothing in it, and then you're going to tell because it's empty. You're going to know that difference because you've been doing this for a while. And then you drop that one because, well, you need a real bad, you drop that one on the ground and you reach for the next one. And because you've been sliding them over, you might have to sort out the last couple, but that ain't a bad way to go. That's part of a plug and play system, isn't it, Mark? The big thing here again is so that one way or another you're not confused. You're minimizing action and motion from action. active to inactive. But you're not losing your mags because remember you should either run into more ammunition laying around or you've got it pre-deposed in the forward area. You deployed it where it needs to be. It could be a vehicle, it could be in a cache, it could be wherever. You're going to need those mags to reload. Also, we don't leave anything laying around here's here's something we haven't emphasized enough you leave nothing laying out Well, yeah, I do that because I'm an ecology camper, you know, I'm a green camper No, it has nothing to do with that has to do with leaving information here for your enemy No man-made object that you carry out should be left behind if at all possible I don't care if it's a piece of wrapping paper or a zipper off or you know a rip tab off a emery pouch nothing you leave nothing That's the first rule. What about that ace of spades calling cards? Nothing. Spading cards. Nothing. Don't bother. No. Don't bother carving and identifying. Some people have this thing about, I want you to know. And they'll take their treads and their boots and they'll carve notches in them until their footprint looks like no other footprint on earth. They got it. And that's bragging rights, you know that? That's what they're trying to do. No, a lot of things. I want them to continue to worry about, you know, your ace of spades is that bullet you put in their head. or that bullet you put in their crotch and let them bleed out, wait and I'll see if you can strip them for all their goodies. However you look at it, that is your mark, period. And ideally, I'm even going to let them find that. Under optimal circumstances, there will be no bodies to find. Here's a good one for you. Leave them that tab that says regular guy. Exactly, there's only many things. Regular guy, just a guy. Well that goes over to it. If you're tracked out of an area and, well, you did something in a particular area and they identify that, they're going to want to follow that particular track. If you identify yourself like that, you make yourself a target, that's one thing. But if they eliminate that person that they know did that, they think they've got the most vicious person in the group. You understand, if you don't identify who did what, they don't know who they've got. They don't know if they just walked away or captured or killed this person or that, or someone who just left and took out 30 of them. Yeah, taking a vacation. I killed enough this week. I went Ralph and Bob, take care of it, and B.C. and Don, and I'll be back next week. I've got to clean things up. You know, kind of a mess I made all my stuff? Aw man, I gotta get this stuff squared away so I can get back out there and do it right. Because I'm not gonna do it half-hearsed. The part that they really, really, really are terrified of is that all we're worried about is destroying their ability to wage war. That's all we're interested in. Absolutely just destroying organic components as in their personnel, eradicating them from this planet, everyone that you do can't be brought back. They can't regrow them. all their training all their special secret police kick in the door, hut hut hut, whatever it is they're gone that's it, that's all they wrote and they won't necessarily find one that says motivated per se only because well what happened to the last guy? he's just gone he left and went home? no he just went out they don't come back what do you mean they don't come back? don't you worry about that we're better than that we're the new ones we're not like the old ones we're better than that and that's how they play the game for a while But eventually there'll be a basic rule. When you go out, expect to be found. Expect any handshake, any signature, even acknowledgement of their destruction. See, that's the other part about it. I'm not into it. I don't need to worry about tagging them and bagging them and counting coo. As far as, you know, like, well, we got four, you know, that's the US government. That's why you're desperately trying to get people to fight for some reason so you make it like a football game. You know what I mean? Oh, you know, like we, American forces, we had 87 blood trails, so we must have killed 95. make any sense. Yeah, it's like the other 14 carried them all away. Yeah, exactly. My favorite, it happened here with this Afghanistan garbage. We knew, well first of all they walked into an ambush, then it's, oh they knew all about, they knew how many were there, and then they said that they killed like 60 Som out of the 90 Som and it's like So by the time you're done, there were like 15 left that were technically or in theory weren't shot, wounded or whatever. So what? They didn't get any bodies. They carried what? Three bodies on every shoulder and still carried their weapons away? They were working real hard, Mark. Yeah, those guys are good! Supermen, yeah. Yeah, super. Well, it was the opium man. It's the opium that does it to you, dude. They were doped up. So the problem is that, again, it's the other side that's desperately trying to pump its people up through numbers. Right. Our number, what speaks for us is the idea that they have to readjust their fighting force so that instead of a 10 man squad they gotta have an 8 man squad. Why? Because they don't have as many troops but they want to create the illusion they still have as many men in the field. Oh you didn't catch on to why they did that years ago guys. Remember? Oh he's an 8 man squad. He's an 8 man squad in the modern army because of incompetence, failure and theft. While they're busy stealing $2.3 trillion dollars, it should have been used to pay for soldiers and personnel on the field. They steal the money and re-organize so that the numbers look good on paper. But they're at one, oh that's right, that would mean they're only like four-fifths original strength. And eventually they'll even carve it down lower than that because they're gonna start to be spread thin. Okay, that's gonna happen. That's not a maybe or a kind of, that's gonna happen. And that's where, again, it's purely a matter of us understanding however long it takes. There's that line from, you know, we were soldiers. Well, how long are we going to do this until they don't show up? Again, you know, just be satisfied with, yeah, you got their rifles, got their gear. You'll be able to put a nice collection together. We're not going to deny you that. You can have their hats, you can have their gear, you can have their weapons. eventually you're going to get tired of some of them but it's like you know I got another I already got three Glocks don't anymore I got four MP5's and I got each caliber I don't need any more no give it to the kids I'll trade you three of those for that Q93 there yeah exactly it's like you know I got on the Glock give it to the kids I want the whole small and fully automatic 50 caliber in China it runs for a little while but it eventually rattles itself apart but the Chinese paratroopers just love them I want one of those Yeah, they're dragging them all over the place. They're actually popping up in a lot of their training operations now. So they are observable if you want to see how they function with how they operate and how they're integrated into their units, which is another thing you need to understand if you're going to be hunting for them. If you want to kill a Chinaman, see if you want to kill Ching Lees, you can get yourself a 50. You better figure out where that 50 is going to be, son. You can only trust the correct amount of rounds so they all better go down range and make everyone of them count. Make everyone of them put you on. It's not for fun, it is business. Now another thing real quick here before we get farther on the Glock mags. Centrifier does have the high cap Glock mags for $15 a piece. The 9mm ones they got $33 round for $15 so there you go. I buy some of those. What we were talking about with the curbing earlier, I'd buy the high capacity mags for the curbing, at least a handful of them. For $15 a piece you can afford to experiment and find out. Again, remember you might be dropping them left and right, so don't cry too much about, you know, again, well are they the best in the world? All they gotta do is work long enough to... dump those rounds and you drop the mag. After that, you'll find out real quick. You know, again, there are also, in fact, they do have the Korean 40 Smith & Wesson 50 round Glock drums. If you wanted to build that .40 caliber, you know, paperless clock we were talking about. So it's a personal choice saying, I myself, I'd go nine first, then 40 and then worry about the .357, the SIG. The other consideration is parts. Again, the other parts you need to complete the gun. The nine will probably be the most common initially. .40 cal will kind of take over for that because that's where the cop shops are with what they're getting rid of or what they're having to chop up. And that's where these parts are coming from. Either overseas they've got to destroy the frames, but they're stripping the guns of all their usable parts and marketing them. They're still making money off of them. In fact, they're making pretty big money off of the Glock parts. So don't think it's going to be that cheap. It's the idea that it's a particular gun that's very common. This is a Libran Yarn that you're building, and there's a couple different companies that have those 80% kits available. Now, before we farther, so Don doesn't have to rush, Don. Night vision technology, we ain't putting it on those pistols boys. We are going to be able to put them on all those flat top AR-15s. Don, what do you have available, night vision and thermal. How can we go to the webpage and when we do, we still have to do something else, don't we? Well, if you go over to the website, that's ydtoe.us. Again, ydthermal and any one of those gun sight categories will thumb screw down onto that flat top. If you look at the top end of the thermal, I'm going to save you enough money there to buy one of those plastic lower plate guns. And then buy a whole bunch of bullets too. Maybe even a tin if you look in the right place. But that's the top end of the thermal. That's a piece that goes out the door for like 62 or 64 hundred dollars. But again, if you had that much money and you called up the 800 number and you paid them for that, well that's all you'd get. But if you call me, my number is 2317968458. Well, you're going to save enough money to turn around and buy that lower, oh, that complete AR from Zeta. And then turn around and buy a whole bunch of bullets too. So there's a complete package for what the manufacturer would offer you that top end thermal gun sight for. You know, that one that you can identify a person 1500 meters away. Now, you might not want to put that on your .223. We've talked about the advantage of seeing your opponent even before they are in range of your gun. That's a gimme, right? We don't have to brag about that. That's not something to strive for. But still, 1,500 meters, that's more the thermal that you'd like to see on top of your .50. And if you back up a little bit well, we can go down to second generation or we can go down to the digital and put that on top of your AR, your flat top, or any one of these devices will live on top of your 308. So it could go on your M1, it could go on your FN, it could go on your AR-10. If you're looking at entry level, we're talking about mid-fours for a digital gun sight that'll live on top of your 308. You can use it in the daytime and into the dark. But by the time it gets pretty dark, you're going to well look for the guy who's got that second or third generation piece because you're going to want to be supporting him because he's going to be able to see better than you. If you look over to the thermal, well now there's a consistent thing there because the thermal we've talked about this is not light level dependent. The one thing that's kind of disappointing about thermal, if you've been using green screen for a while, And you look around above the device and over there way off in the distance there's some light. You can barely make out what's around it. But you bring the green screen over there and with the magnification and the light amplification, well, now you're looking over there a good distance away. But you know what? That won't happen with thermal because again, it's not light dependent. It has no influence on light levels unless those light levels are coming from a fire. It has abilities that the green screen doesn't. And we've talked about this, the green screen does things that the thermal doesn't. If I was building a team, I'd say get one of those and get one of those. A green screen and a thermal. Because they go hand in hand, they compliment each other like, you know, hey, pickles and chocolate ice cream if your wife sends you out for that at three o'clock in the morning, you know, in the third trimester. Or peanut butter and jelly. a hand and a glove. I could use all kinds of examples, right? But the thermal will do things that the green screen won't, and the green screen will do things that the thermal won't, and a team of those is pretty hard to beat. And we've talked about that over and over, but if I had one choice right now and I had the money, I'd go with a piece of thermal before I'd go with a big end second generation or save a third a given the money to go into a third generation device. If you go over to the website, that's ydtoe.us, you'll see again, thermal and green screen and digital. And if you have any questions, like what's the real price? That's why, about the phone number, because, well, I can't advertise for less than what you see there. Because I won't keep my source. They're trying to tighten up on the, they're trying to level the playing field and all of the things that they're trying to say. But I can do a deal over the phone. And well, if you look around the internet, and you get a price from this or that, you call me, I'm told, My prices are pretty hard to beat. I'm shining my fingernails on my chest right now. I'm doing the Brutus thing when he's looking at Popeye. My prices are pretty hard to beat. Give me a call if you want to know the real price of something there on the website, be it an entry-level digital, the second or third or even fourth generation green screen, the caveat, there is one piece of a fourth generation gun site. You pay enough for that to buy two third generation gun sites. and right down the line, if you buy a third generation gun site, that's enough money to buy two second generation gun sites. Hard pressed and if you find prices better than mine, I'd ask you to call me and tell me. Again, show it to me and I'll do my best to beat that price. My number is 2317968458. The website's ydtoe.us. Again, y7968458. Thank you, Mark. And again, while you're dealing with a stranger when Mr. Betcher is available, Tom's been with us for a long time, stayed the course, stayed focused, and has been on target, guys. You have the technology. One of the things that the, like we were joking, but we're not. I mean, well, we always joked about putting night vision on pistol. It's a great idea. I mean, even in the movies, they tried to throw that out there a couple of times, except You always have to ask people, how do you keep that from just painting all over if you've got this screen projecting something? I mean, you can't keep your eye up to the optics, right, Don? It's kind of hard when you do. It's like, wow, would you get all those black and blue marks in your cheek, in your eye, your eyebrow? Did you bust your nose? That's not a serial number. Doesn't that say G-O-O? I thought you were from there. There's in reverse. Wow. How did that happen? Oh, man. I thought you brought night vision. Yeah, from my perspective. It didn't work. That, there was night vision produced. At, yeah, actually my major source of green screen and thermal right now. I've been sourcing from them for a long time. Back in 95 they produced a night vision. The thing was almost two and a half inches. It was, it weighed almost as much as a lot of pistols. And when you held it at arms length, boy, the screen was so big you could see, oh, it was a very fine piece to be held at arms length. You could see way over there and make targets way over there, but if you were way over there looking back, you'd be shooting at the goblin that's shooting at you. You know, the guy with the tops of the green arms and the green shoulders and the green face and hat and all of those other things that would be lit up by all of that wash coming out of that device. That's an extreme example of one of the things that's been well talked about as of late because, you know, a lot of people with M1's mark In the night, there's a lot of chat rooms and such, and if you go in, well a lot of people with M1s or particular guns, or what one might call top loaders, top ejectors, they're mounting even the green screen and the thermal forward of that on, like, example, the forward wood on an M1. We addressed this last week and talked about, you know, if the pigs are getting used to seeing the illuminator come on if you're shooting green screen and they start to run that little dinky dot of an illuminator? What do you think they do when they see the white on your face? And if the pigs, who are only slightly smarter than dogs, use that as a cue in a life and death situation when they can't shoot back. I'm talking about the four-legged pigs out there in Texas. And this is, again, we talked about this last week. Don't you think that people who are smarter than dogs and pigs put together might know that they're about to be shot at if they see that red light come on or if they see all of that white light on your face. That's not a good, it might be good to shoot pigs, especially pigs if you're not seeing the same group all the time or coyotes if you're not because they learn. As example, go to the chat rooms and find out for yourself. But if you bring that boot right to your eye, as Mark is talking about, the worst-case scenario, the pistol night vision, when it's way over there and it just lights you light up like a green goblin and everybody wants to shoot it because it just looks unnatural. There's something wrong with that. Is that a zombie or is that, are we in a goblin movie? Let's kill it. Well not only that, let's remind everybody, you're using night vision and you're looking across the battlefield. Guess what you see? You know, it may not show up super bright, but any kind of reflective area where you're getting highlighting is going to attract attention. Oh, yeah. And God only knows what else might be facing you from the other direction, washing back on you. This is something we've always talked about. It's kind of like, you know, first rule. When you're outbound with bullets, watch your backstop, guys. Remember tracers work both ways. That's the other one everybody seems to forget. I'm using tracers I can yell and they can kind of track it back in your general ballpark direction. Doesn't mean we don't use tracers but we limit high usage and we apply it in very succinct ways at a point where contact is already known, it's inevitable that it's going to be identifiable because you're closing the distance, which everybody always talks about. It's just our closing distance is very different from theirs. But the other thing is with light discipline and sound discipline. Guys, it's hard until you get enough people in the field and you can shut everybody up and let them just listen to the environment and look at the environment around them. One stupid little match with it. One piece of equipment tapping against others. Do you see any, for instance, canteen cup trees out there in the woods anywhere? If you hear metal on metal or plastic, you know, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum, pum a consistent like a rhythmic chum chum chum. That's not a natural occurrence and the bears aren't wearing web gear, okay? Neither are the deer. So chances are you've got something out there especially when it's a metallic plastic sound and you can differentiate, you can tell the difference. You have other issues, light discipline tied in with that where even if you have all the technology we're talking about, there are so many pieces of equipment that have LEDs on them. that are even in the military applications here where it's like, I don't even know why they did it. I mean, yeah, well, it's nice here. Well, the power's on. Yeah, well, that's good. Everybody knows that. You know it. I know it. People that are shooting at us know it too, by the way. Oh, look at that red dot on your forehead. Yeah, oh, wow. And it really stands out. It can set green screen three and five hundred yards away. Yeah. See, so I get just bright green and the green screen from way over there. It's just bright green. And you have to work at this in training and your senior personnel and your administering, all of your personnel that are administering training of any kind, in the process. If you're going to be there as the instructor, you have to be, you have to be applying 100% of what it is that you know. If you don't teach them there, they're finding out through OJT as terminal. Okay, think about that. We've got to be on the upper end of this curve right from the get-go. So light discipline is always an issue. I will tell you that having been aggressively hunted by the enemy, guys, all the mistakes that we're talking about, they've made on the other side. Everybody goes, well, you mean chased? We've been chased by literally hundreds. total failure on their part. Why? Well, all of the object issues, you know, in fact even single communications. The arrogance and assumption that somehow only they have the ability to handle the communications technology, typically we would break all the encrypted technologies they carry within anywhere from 49 seconds to 2 minutes and all of their encryption is broken. That's the available technology we have off the shelf we can use right now. There's not an operation where they feel that anybody that could stay clandestine with regard to signal. On top of that, failure with regard to light discipline and failure with regard to noise discipline. Also, motion control. You know, flailing around has a tendency to kind of draw attention. And remember first rule, You know, keep everything close to the body, slow down your actions if you're especially at probable contact point. Otherwise, minimize and use cover and concealment, something I brought up right from the get-go here earlier on. How do you do that, Mark? How do you do that? Well, the first thing you do is everybody's not looking the same direction. If I hear that crunch of a twig across my shoulder, something on Ralph up there at my three o'clock or Frank at my six. Everybody has an area of control. They have an area of observation and act for activity purposes or again for operational security depending on the situation if you're in travel. Also, here's the thing. Get into this dogma. I'm always going to be in the same job. We're flexible. We got the thinkers. They got the stinkers. Always change things up. Each man, what's that thing? Everybody loves movies. Know the job of the other man above you and below you. Why? Because people are going to die. But it's not just that, it's also fatigue. You have to rotate personnel because, again, what are you carrying? What are you applying? What weapons do you have that are in your inventory? What's the weight of the radio equipment, medical support gear? There's all kinds of things you trade out because you're still carrying your basic combat load and then you have special technologies, special weapons application, and all the other fun things. Now you should also again rotate people out so everybody has experience, especially in where it's a non-lethal environment. So everybody gains experience. Point men gain experience. The number two man, your pace man, your radio operator, your flankers. If you decide to go with advance or deep pickets, which I thoroughly believe in. In fact, remember, just because a picket walks through an area doesn't mean he didn't observe the kill zone. He's just trying not to draw attention so he can do what he's supposed to do to keep everybody else from walking into it. click on a radio one click one click one long click point of contact up above you know a head he doesn't even have to do anything special he can do this in such a way that it could be casual and it does not appear that he actually has observed or identified a threat situation but what he does is stop the main body you know the primary element could be refugees you know a real refugee is not the BS'ers we got coming from outside stealing our social security and their parasites It can be a civilian slash refugee component where you're exfiltrating personnel out in your security. It can be medical evacuation. It can be a combat patrol. It can be a number of different things. But the main body is stopped, halted, and then they either choose to retrograde back from the area of activity. Don't even take the chance of moving to the left or right to flank an area that's suspect. The idea is that if you have one prepared kill zone, you may have several prepared It may be a raid, I wanted to say displayed, it may be a raid like barbed wire. Because as we pointed out many times, barbed wire is only as good as the gun that over watches it. And if you come to barbed wire, you might want to go someplace else. And the barbed wire is meant to funnel people to other areas, isn't it Mark? Channel activity to put you into an area where it is more difficult to escape because then the guns do the job while the barbed wire and the other obstacles and anti-personnel technology slow you down. You're slower, you're easier to hit. How do you shoot a wounded APS agent? It's easy, you just don't lead them as much. Sometimes you don't have to lead them at all. Good shot, son, good shot. I'll see you there again, people. This is advanced notice with regard to the training cycle, training process. Incorporate in as much of the real world as possible and ignore naysayers that will, in fact, I ID your wants for that. When you've got somebody who starts to do the nay routine, oh, you've got a special job. You're going to be over there with that other group of special people over there. There's a special mission. It's very important. I need to have you do this. Now, it's going to be very dull for them there, too, just as apparently they, I don't know why they signed up with us if they really don't want to do what we intended to do, except maybe their job is to disrupt. for an individual who starts pulling that BS and I'll put them over with other people of like mind. While the other individuals that want to train, you know it's kind of like that special forces thing. You're looking for the motivated people and if you have people that really are trying to convince everybody else not to be motivated, they're not the people you want around your motivated people, am I right? Because then I'm going to say, oh you're right, oh you're so special, I got a special job for you and here it is. And by the way, it's going to take you over there in that back 40. There's a lot of special work needs to be done over there. Take your coffee cups with you too. I brought up the example of the years ago and we talked about this in real time. There were a number of people who had come here a number of times a year to train with the airsoft and to train with the, oh, the bigger gun, the paintball. And eventually we'd start to divide into teams and teach them disarming techniques. And if you know disarming techniques, at the same time you're learning how to keep your gun. So that's a good thing to study, disarming techniques. This one fellow, new to the group, says, I was in the Army, you can't teach me nothing, and he sat out all of the 45 minutes or an hour worth of, I'm gonna teach you how to keep your gun, and that guy over there who I trust wholly and totally, he's gonna teach the other group how to keep their gun, and when it's done, it's gonna be group A versus group B. And the third person sat out, and I made certain that he was shot first every time he got in front of my gun. He died first in every engagement. I was in the army, you can't teach me nothing. I taught him how to die over and over and over. Over and over and over. Because of his bullheadedness. Because he was like an army with no legs, Mark. He was in such a fixed position, was doomed to fail. And that fixed position with his mind can't teach me nothing. Okay, well you won't play with us today. Him how little he knows. to argue with, but again the objective behind being a trainer is to pay attention and know how to sculpt the training environment so that the people who are there for a purpose and wish to participate get the most out of it. And especially if they're motivated, they're hard chargers, you want those hard chargers in your school of thought. And that's where, you know, this happened with many people I trained years ago while I was with the military. In fact, the guys that went to Granada, every one of them said, not every one, a couple of them said the same thing, Mark, everything you told us to do, I got in with these guys and they said, oh, take that off, you aren't going to need it, we're just practicing, take this off, you're not going to need it. And these were ready up here instead of refers to deploy if anything went wrong. Well, as at one point out, when Granada kicked in guys, before anybody knew where Granada was, they did the rally on the airstrip. and everybody was, you know, prepped to jump and guess what? Because everybody said, oh shave that off, take that off, you don't need this, you don't need it. Well what happened is they shut the doors and they kept going this time rather than it just being a training exercise where everybody goes out, they do the body count or whatever. Well you know what? When they jumped, a lot of them didn't have what they should have had because they decided they needed to lighten things up. Why train realistically? Why be prepared to actually do what you're supposed to do? And because of that, when the feces hit the oscillating device, a lot of what they needed wasn't where they could get to it because it was on the ground and they were headed a thousand miles somewhere else. I can't help but throw out a couple of appropriate cliches here. One of them goes train hard so you'll fight easy. I repeat, train hard so you'll fight easy. The other one goes