August 26, 2016
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1h 3m
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2016
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Mark Koernke's show covered border security operations, specifically discussing surveillance aircraft (MEAs/C-12s) based at Marana Air Park in Arizona and their role in monitoring smuggling routes near the Tohono O'odham Indian Reservation. The episode included technical discussions about computer troubleshooting (Flash Player, browser compatibility, Windows operating systems), reloading ammunition for 5.45x39 caliber, and open-line caller segments featuring discussions on Linux versus Windows, VR headsets, and media streaming software (Kodi). A tribute to Stevie Ray Vaughan's death anniversary was mentioned, and various technical and preparedness topics were covered throughout.
- border security
- marana air park
- mea aircraft
- tohono o'odham
- smuggling routes
- arizona
- surveillance
- reloading ammunition
- 5.45x39
- windows vista
- linux
- flash player
- kodi
- preparedness
- computer security
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that looks like they were actually taken from within that and it cuts down their response time so they don't have to be flying say from Phoenix or Fort Huachuca that they can fly right out out of there because just to the west of the Pinal County air park of the Sawtooth Mountains and that is like one big hot heavy smuggling route because if you look just to the west of that a little bit more you've got this great big looks like a left-handed mitten and it's called the Tohono O'odham Indian Reservation that extends from the border north of about 60-70 miles almost up to Interstate 8 and almost over to Tucson with the little thumb part and there's a I think it's called an ironwood National Monument. And so when they come up, throw into the, and then they can either get out of there by going east or headed more in the northerly direction and getting out of there. And that's kind of what the whole deal is. So, Marana is ideally suited for operations down there. And I have not... seen any of the MEAs and they also sometimes they're referred to as C-12s that because that's what they were quote-unquote used to flying but you know if you would untrained eye if you would put a C-12 next to an MEA you could not tell the difference because both of them are originally the same airframe the Bonanza The only difference is once been sent to Texas, I think it's Raytheon and this other one's for the Border Patrol or sent over to someplace in Maryland. It's there in the article and you should be able to find it. Just type in like Aircraft MEA or Border Patrol, Multi-Role Enforcement Aircraft and you can find that. And this is kind of, you know, it always happens when... When the show is over and we hang up and we always think of 15 things that we should say and it gets one thing especially and it should apply to any instance of when we're talking warfare or conflict or insurgency or whatever label we want to tag on to it and Tracking is a very important tool, but point what you need to bear in mind is you don't just stare at the... It's very important to keep your eyes at one eye on the ground and one eye in the sky because there is a tremendous amount of information that's going on up in the sky that can adversely affect your health. You definitely have to be aware that these aircraft are here and you can use them as an intelligent or an information asset. They don't launch a $20 million aircraft to deliver pizzas. When the something is going on and they launch these aircrafts in the direction that they're flying in the area they're patrolling, that is telling you something and if you're unaware of what your surroundings are your situational awareness can be detrimental to your health. Exactly one of the things again remember guys there's budget money from somewhere on the one hand they're doing you know grabbing release on the border but the rest of the machine is still running you know to a degree and trying to or at least creating the illusion of doing what they were actually hired to do. The big thing is again, time to target. That's why again, that's an optimal location. Flying distance minimized. Response time is also generalized because of course, not just that quarter of activity, but still gives them the ability to fly off and support other locations within reasonable distance. you know, the centralized location being what, well, semi-central. There's still two or three other locations, you know, east, but that's another quadrant of authority, I'm sure, and, you know, New Mexico deals with New Mexico. But otherwise, again, for everybody out there, the battlefield hasn't changed on the border. It's just not getting any coverage. It's why Trump actually has brought up the idea that you know, well I'll build a wall. Well, you know, the only thing I will say about that is, remember that Bush lied about that. Let's go back to when the Bushites came in. And what's the first thing they did? They found their little opium pushing oil boys, got them down there and they did that. Virtual Fence BS. Now guys, they were all told they were going to start it and they did. And they were told they were going to finish it. They never did. So it may be in motion, but then they'll try to make everybody forget about it. We're the people, the Patriot effort is where the focus has been to let you know that, wow, I guess they really did lie to you. Things didn't work out. And in fact, they've gotten worse, not better. We really don't know how many people have been killed south of the border. Go ahead. That's for sure. And you know, it's really unfortunate because even the in the news media, they're very deceptive. They'll say that Boeing was trying to build this virtual fence. But what they don't say is the subcontractor, Coleman and and what was the other Israeli firms that were actually supplying the electronics and the optics and the computer networks. They were the runs that ran hundreds of billion dollars over budget. It was a cold, K-O-L-L-S-M-A-N and LBIP, or two big corporations from Israel that got hundreds of millions of dollars over budget. and then it all failed. Be careful if you're headed out for the weekend. Pay attention. Drive offensively. Bye bye. find the right shotgun or rifle for you. 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You don't need to worry about having a military surplus store in your area because MaineMilitary.com is the only store you'll ever need, all from the comfort of your computer. Visit them online today at MaineMilitary.com. That's Maine, like the state, Military.com. Another Friday and it's a little bit past seven. We're up to a little bit of a late start, but we're in open with the prayers we always do. Dear gracious heavenly father, we thank you Lord for letting us be here another Friday. Continue to open our way of sub to our listeners. We thank you Lord for watching over our family members. We ask that you continue to bless us and watch over us as we move into the weekend in the name of Jesus Christ we pray. Amen. Amen. I'm getting some interesting background there. It sounds like a CB radio in the background. You're blasting it. Am I? Oh. Well, I see I've been having the opposite problem all week long. So many people to hear me. Yeah, towards the end of the last hour, the music was overpowered, and I couldn't hear anything of what Mike or your dad were saying for that whole minute and a half or so. Okay, well I was trying to bump them off so you heard it we were on the conference line. Well at least I know it was working Well, that's pretty much routine almost any time you cut in the music. It's like you know somebody switched on a PA That is true with Skype. It shouldn't be true with the conference line though. But one thing I've noticed is that it has been muted. Like it's been muted for some reason, but it's like on Skype and I don't know what's going on there. But real quick, I'm going to remind everybody, we're not doing a drawing this month, but we are doing a drawing next month. We already have people who have entered in. I did get the website partially updated and the update stuck. Or at least it looks like it's stuck on my end. We've got $90 raised of the $2,000 we're raising for the end of the year bill The new date is the end of this December when we need it because January is when life 365 pulled that BS on us and I Hate that date because it's like right at the end of all the holidays are right there So that it's a sucky time to have a deadline, but that's where it's at right now Well, I better when it was on October have more time to do stuff Whoo anyway That being said I am I should have on one day some of the pictures up of the items that we've gotten the drawing the book that mom's added to the pot the Pink camouflage. I think they're hoodies. I'll have to take a look again that we've got here Repeat I last It's true. That's what we got somebody donated them. Hey, we're putting in the drug The Patriot Bible that Brooks has donated Dad's put in some coats I think he said a couple of knives I'm not sure if it was a knife or a couple of knives so we'll have a pretty good drawing next month for the fundraiser and Anybody who's already donated this month without specifying what it was for I've added you guys to the Pot for the drawing unless you specified otherwise it was just a gift so that that being said guys This is our college program. The call number is one seven one two four three two zero nine zero zero room number nine five seven four six four in the pound side again, that's one seven one two four three two zero nine zero zero room number nine five seven four six four and the pound sign Callers, please call in and help these guys out because I'm sorry. I've actually got a step away. I've got company in the other room I've got to attend to so I'm gonna let you guys Take it over spike any updates you've got for Indiana freedom talk radio, please put them out there Well, I just have to say that while we're talking here I'll be cutting up the archives for the other night when they got missed. So that's about it About it for me. That's all I have Yeah, so yeah, Indiana Freedom Talk Radio still moving forward and getting parking pieces and assemblies ready and it'll be re-overhauled and done. Done up well, pretty quick. So that'll be good. Just looking at cases right now, because that's the main part. Gotta be able to fit it in where I'm gonna put it. And then I'm gonna set off to building my own rack for them. After I get them built so I'll know ahead of time what I'll be looking at as far as the boxes and moving Don't want to make it so it slides out so that I can get to the computer without Messing around with the other computers next to it so I can slide it out It'll be your life thing. Yes. Go ahead. Yes. Sorry. What's guys? I was wondering if I could always you're talking about computer today. Ask you I was a picture Sure, and the help butter knife here too. He could probably help you as well. So we got a okay help fire fire when ready my since yesterday and I go I'm like from the trenches or any of the websites that haven't invented you to do that yesterday And I can't figure out what sites huh sounds like something's corrupted your chrome installation You might need to Does that have a flash? Adobe flash player installed in it. Yes, it does You might try to update that because that might be what's causing it. I know in Firefox when Adobe updates the Flash Player, it'll stop the Flash Player, but in the video spot it'll tell you that the Flash Player has been updated and they're stopping that plug-in from running. You might try and update that and see if that helps you. And if that doesn't help, you might try uninstalling that and reinstalling it. Because I haven't used Chrome much at all. I used it once or twice and went, nah. Well, here are a couple of things for you to know, okay? Okay. First off is that YouTube traditionally has used Flash. for all of its video. That's how it originally started out and that's how it got all of these different videos which are traditionally horribly difficult to get to play with each other all to pretty much play on most people's machines is by going to flash. Alright now that was many years ago and since then web video has become so common that what they've done is they've added video into the new HTML specifications and YouTube is moving away from Flash to using HTML5 that has video built in. Alright? So in the long run your Flash player is going to cease to be as important. because everybody's moving to HTML5 that already has video built in is no longer dependent upon Adobe Flash. Alright, now that's a piece of background to know before we go on to the next thing. Okay, time off for one second. I really come to HTML5. No, no. HTML is the language that all web browsers use. That's what web pages are made out of. There's a bunch of stuff called HTML. They keep coming out with new versions every couple of years. They come out with a new version. Now we're up to five. Okay, old web pages written on HTML 1 and 2 still work, but they're the plain static text and image type You know web pages if you see fancy stuff like you move your mouse and things light up or video happens or whatever you're either dealing with Extensions like JavaScript or you're dealing with fancier versions of HTML. That's all you really need to know Okay, okay, but but in the past video was only available by sticking in some sort of plug-in because video was not part of the HTML standards. So that's where Flash came in. It became the most popular plug-in that could do video and everybody started using it especially once YouTube had done that. So what you need to know is that the older browsers and the older versions of YouTube used this plug-in Flash in order to do video. All right, so I've been real quick What I understand Larry to be asking is what does he need to do and I know but I'm explaining the terrain you have to know the terrain if I just say put your left foot here and Don't explain what a landmine is then you're likely to make a mistake. So let me let me explain the terrain and Then we can make suggestions I'll give you a preview. I don't have an absolute fix for your problem. I'm explaining how things work so you'll understand a little more what's going on. Alright, so in the past they used Flash to extend the whole capabilities of web pages and web browsers to be able to do video. And we also know that Flash is starting to go away as HTML5 comes in and takes care of that itself. Alright, that's the first part that you need to know. The second part that you need to know is that Firefox is a very standards compliant browser in that it implements only the things that are part of the standards. and fancy stuff like Flash it does is a plugin. This is the clean, official, proper way of doing things because it works the same way whether you're on Windows or Mac or Linux or what have you. Other browsers like, for instance, Internet Explorer couldn't care less about Macs or Linux or whatnot because they're tied to the particular Windows operating system. So Firefox obeys the rules. and it uses this Flash plugin to do Flash. Chrome doesn't entirely obey the same rules. Chrome has its own Flash built-in. Okay? So when you uninstall Flash Player and install Flash Player, you're really not affecting Chrome because Chrome uses its own built-in version of Flash. Whereas Firefox and Opera and other browsers like that use the Adobe plugin. Okay? So while I will suggest that you do uninstall Flash and reboot and reinstall Flash, it'll probably only affect Firefox and other clean, proper browsers. It probably won't fix anything in your Google Chrome. What I would suggest you do is uninstall and reinstall Google Chrome in hopes that it may be able to fix that video problem. But that's why you will see some anomalous behaviors if you think that they work the same because they don't. Chrome has its own built-in flash. Firefox and Opera and so on use the plugin. And always I recommend just as general principles Of course, don't use Internet Explorer if you can possibly avoid it. But, install two other browsers. I generally steer people toward Firefox, but I install Chrome on their machines as well. If you've got Chrome, you should install Firefox as well. Just so you've got two of them, because sometimes a browser will break. and you'll want to switch to another browser or something funny will happen and you can try it at the same link on a different browser to see if it's the browser or whether it's the web page. So I recommend staying away from Internet Explorer when you can but install both Chrome and Firefox and try the same link on both browsers when you have a problem it'll give you an idea of where the problem is. kind of settled for Chrome as it is. Well, Chrome has some virtues. It's very simple and clean and it's quick because it does some shortcuts. Bear in mind that the whole reason that Google puts out Chrome is because it gets to spy on every web link you do. Okay, even if you just type in a web link saying go to xyz.com, it treats that like a search. It runs it through Google search engines and it logs what you're doing. So the reason Google spends money to maintain Chrome is because they gather intelligence on the whole planet and you can assume that they're monetizing that intelligence. That's not necessarily a sufficient reason to not use it. It is quick and does all the basic things, but just be aware. But my advice is to have Chrome and to have Firefox. and when something screwy happens, try the other browser on the same link to get an idea of where the problem is. Microsoft doesn't care beans about Chrome because it's not a Microsoft product. Google supports Chrome and Google will support Chrome as long as it feels that it's in Google's interest to do so. So I would disregard those messages. Now, you did mention that you're running Vista, and that's getting to be a little on the old side. You know, Microsoft kills operating systems in sequence. I think that's a little bit stupid. I think they should kill them in sequence of popularity, which means they should still be supporting XP and they should have killed Vista a long time ago. But that's neither here nor there. They haven't quite driven the spike in the Vista just yet, but they would like to stampede the entire planet into Windows 10, so they'll tell you all kinds of stuff. I would disregard anything Microsoft says because they want you to spend however much you have to to buy a whole new PC just so that they can add one to the numbers of people using Windows 10. You know, that's one of those nap the fingers spend a pile of money to give me a penny sort of operations So I would I would rather be dragged across a parking lot of broken windows 10. I don't recommend it Right now I continue at this point to recommend to people Windows 7 Even though it's a little more difficult to get a hold of one now, but you know Yeah, I'm just I really not that well ever since I've had the computer like you when I got the just adapted to it I just kind of got liked it and got used to it because well Windows 7 and is almost indistinguishable from Vista and the user interface so you know if you're used to one you'll be used to the other basically Vista was rushed out the door years and years and years overdue and it was half baked even many many years overdue because they're putting all sorts of slimy things in there that you wouldn't like and 7 was basically Vista after it had been shaken and baked a little longer and was reasonably functional. So 7 is what Vista is supposed to be. There's still stuff in there that you wouldn't like if you knew about it. In some regards XP was better than either of them. But 7 was the first competent 64-bit system that Microsoft ever made. Xp was... Basic XP was 32. There was an XP 64 that was very half baked and nobody really ever used it. Vista left a lot to be desired because it wasn't ready for prime time. 7 was the first 64-bitter that really kind of worked. for me to Windows 7? If your machine runs Vista it would run 7. Bear in mind that it costs money to buy a Windows 7 license key or run you somewhere between 70 and 140 dollars depending on where you buy it. and they're trying to stampede you out of it. If you're satisfied with Vista, unless there's something that breaks and you have to run TurboTax and Intuit won't let you or something like that, I would say, well, we pinch our nose, but it makes sense to stay with the operating system you originally had because it's been paid for. And they make it unrealistically expensive to switch versions. Yeah, I can live with the only issue I've had so far is this one that I've got currently that I just didn't know I use my my search in search on it, but I don't fancy stuff Well at this point if your Vista machine has never been reformatted and reinstalled It's long overdue to experience problems, but chances are your problem is browser related Not operating system related from the whole thing as you've described Yeah, I think it's I think it's been updated because six months ago I had a probably would have been a fresh install at that point. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, so they I pretty much got that cover. Well, I appreciate I didn't mean to dominate the time that you guys were talking about But I really appreciate the information. It's been real hopeful computers all the time Here's here's a thought to file in and file away on the back shelf somewhere in the back of your head When it comes time to get a new machine, you're going to get stuck with Windows 10 unless you jump through hoops to try to get a 7 or something. Pinch your nose, but if you do that and your old machine, the one you're using right now, still functions if it hasn't just exploded in a shower of sparks or something, consider putting Linux on it. Because if you have a second machine with Linux on it, then you can play around with Linux, but you're not trapped on it. You can run the commercial programs that you have to on the main stream, the front line Windows box while you get up and running and accustomed to Linux. There's going to come a point where the only computer you have any control over is your Linux machine. Because Windows 10 is a massive power grab by Microsoft and the NSA to control your machine. Yeah, you can turn all that stuff off too. My dilemma is that I've got a Shiba Quasimo Q45 that I've had with the AT&T and I bought it like capacity to do the minimal stuff that I task and keep this computer. I just like to keep it. It's an oldie, but goodie. It's like having a 57 Chevy. Well, if you get a new one, I would say put Linux on the old one so that you can gradually get up to speed on Linux. Okay. Because eventually we're going to need to, you know, all run Linux if on any machine that we want to have the slightest bit of privacy on. I like the Linux, but it was pretty cool. But it just wouldn't run certain programs, so I kind of put that on the wayside. But I love the way that it ran and worked. up until the point where you know you couldn't really do certain things because just couldn't get it to recognize stuff. If I was better at working with it I probably could have figured out what what was going on there but I played around with it for about three months and I like to said I really liked the way it was set up the way you could switch from one desktop to another was pretty cool and you could play videos on it and stuff like that but that was about as far as it went. Well, Linux's weakest area is the printers because the cheap printers that we have now rely very heavily on a lot of the work being done by the host computer. And there's an awful lot of work goes into those drivers and the companies don't bother to do the same thing for Linux. They write the drivers for Windows and Mac and they stop at that point. What I tell people is If you have only one computer in the house, it should be a Windows or conceivably a Mac if you're made out of money and don't mind being encased in a little corporate bubble and exploited by Apple. But the one front line machine should be a Windows machine because you've got commercial applications and games and things like that designed only for that stuff. But all of the older machines in your house, if you've got more than one, then you can make all of them Linux machines and keep them going forever. There isn't anybody who's got a financial interest in trying to make your machine useless. And the Linux machines will do all the basic stuff that most people do. Bear in mind that 95% of what all PCs are used for is web browsers. So, you know. That worked pretty good. going to different websites and web pages like YouTube stuff like that Linux worked fine for that if for some reason it wouldn't recognize my 3d drivers I went into the you know how what you know what I'm talking about but anybody that doesn't know Linux wouldn't understand so kind of moots the point but there's a little thing that opens up and tells you what all drivers you need and it points you to a download source and you download it yourself and install it and the Downloaded it installed it and it kept saying that the red wine program or whatever was called Kept telling me that it didn't I didn't have any 3d drivers installed. I'm like yeah, you just installed it so Well, Wine is sort of an emulator of Windows. It's never 100% because it's kind of based on reverse engineering. Microsoft isn't going to cooperate with the Wine project. 3D drivers are incredibly involved software. They soak up millions of dollars every year of development cost by the chip manufacturers who are willing to do it because it helps them sell $300 video boards that do frankly astonishing stuff. It's just amazing that anybody can do that stuff. But they are not willing to put the same effort into Linux because Linux is not the gamers platform, you know windows and to a very tiny extent Mac are as the gamers platforms. So the 3D driver area is always going to be favored by the leading commercial operating system. If you want to play the games and so on you're going to want to do that on a wind box. But I would say as soon as you want to send emails or you know Voice chat or whatever it is you want to do anything that you want the slightest bit of controller privacy Then switch back over to a Linux machine There's no reason you can't have two machines sitting right there and your headphones are plugged into the Linux box and you're playing a game on the Windows machine for instance, you know, it isn't an either or a thing and there are people that can get their Linux boxes to play games too, so Well, yeah, a rule of thumb is that they can usually play a game a generation or two back because the hardware has gotten so much faster that it can cope. But, you know, yeah. Yeah, those new video cards, I've seen them. There's a couple good channels over, well, a bunch of good channels on YouTube, but the two I frequent the most are Linus Tech Tips. And he does another channel, same guys do another channel, I can't remember the name off the top of my head. But they were just showcasing the two newest video cards from NVIDIA. And they were like, they look like Cadillacs, you know. They're huge. But yeah, they do some pretty wild stuff with those things, and they're getting into VR now. And if you haven't seen these things, right now at Ollie's. for $4.34 you can go pick yourself up a VR headset that will fit up to a 6 inch cell phone in it and you can go download VR movies and 3D movies and watch them in 3D on that little headset thing and it's pretty wild. Yeah, that sounds like the Google stereo viewer. It was a sort of a cardboard project that Google just sort of released for fun. You jam your cell phone in there and run an app. It sounds like somebody made one out of plastic or something and you can buy them now. They're all over the place. You go to those Chinese websites and they're going like gangbusters. They have for $4.34 at Ollie's right now. They've had it in their flyer for the last couple weeks and I went and picked me one up for $4.34. I thought what the hell I'm right here anyway. I wasn't spending any gas money to go there. So yeah, let's go check it out. Depends on what kind of cell phone you have as to how good it works. If you have a really nice one that has the gyro thingy in it then it works really kick ass but if you just got the one that has the Side to side, then it doesn't really work that good It works on 3d better than it does on VR at that point But virtual reality videos VR videos and 3d videos play great On that thing and it's pretty wild. It's just like wow. It's right there in your face because you know the old days we used to staple those red and blue glasses to our heads and Watch the 3D movies Well, that was a generation or two back and then there was the vertically and horizontally polarized and you know now in the theater It's it's circular polarization. Don't ask me to explain the physics of that but you know, that's how they do that you could actually kind of make a 3d projection television if you wanted to simply by slipping those polarized glasses in your pockets and taking them home and using those filters for your projection set. Don't melt the elastic, but you could do it. Anyway, anybody else got anything they need to want to bring up, want to talk about? Since Ed left us in charge here. This is Mike in Arizona. Go ahead. Hey, well, you know, I hope you guys heard what I was saying in the previous hour, but maybe to try to change the subject here, tomorrow is the 26th anniversary of Stevie Ray Vaughan. And I'm just wondering if I can throw out a request that we could hear pride and joy time in the next 20 minutes that, you know, we really miss Stevie. I'd just like to hear that. Might be able to sign that. I have a reloading question. Well, I've heard Mark say that it is possible to reload 5.45 by 39, but I have yet to see any components or dyes anytime I've looked. Is anyone else any information regarding reloading it? I doubt the dies are the biggest problem. RCBS used to produce custom dies on request. I imagine that they have done that one already, but I've never heard of the bullets for that size being available. Yeah, that's one of the things I looked for and didn't find a wild bar. What's on hard guys if you have the actual But dissect one make a cast for it. What it's easy to make a cast for a lead mold Well, that's a that's a small bullet the casters tend to Stick to the larger diameter bullets it works a lot better You won't see people casting two to three for instance typically because You'd have to use a really hard alloy and so on those are very small very high velocity bullets works better I've seen people cast I've seen people cast .223 The problem with casting .223 is that it's typically it's copper line. It's a copper line projectile and That's for the feeding if you just do a solid lead projectile with a .223 it doesn't feed properly Well, it's it's a soft alloy and that's a very small bullet and you run into some problems, partly because of the forces on the feed ramp and partly because you're pushing that bullet so fast. So, you know, you're gonna have problems when you go below about 6.5 or 7mm. It doesn't mean that you can't do it, but it's gonna get harder and harder and you're gonna have to tinker with the alloys and do a lot of different stuff. The X39 is even more so than the 223. It's a little bit smaller even than that. So, you know. You're going to have a big leading problem driving a small bullet like that. It's such a high velocity and the high heat, the high pressure is going to leave a lot of lead residue in your barrel. Yeah, you can you can address that by going with a harder alloy But then you have to be a little more precise and make sure that you're getting you know The tolerance is right and all that kind of good stuff you can't rely on the on the soft lead you know slug kind of squishing around and accommodating the barrel as much if you go with a harder alloy and so on and so forth and it just boils down to the point that That that caliber was really designed for a jacketed bullet and you're probably better off with a jacketed bullet That's not something that's easily done at home and it's probably not cost effective even if you did. So at this point it's sort of if you can buy the bullets that's fine. I'm not aware of those being commonly available and if they were they probably gouged for them until there's a mass market and some competition. So at this point I think you're pretty much out of luck there. It doesn't mean that you couldn't reload them. I don't think the dies are the biggest problem. I think the bullets are the biggest problem. The projectile, yeah. You don't have the capability to jacket the bullet. It's going to be PIA. Well, there are people that do swaging at home, but they pay so much for the jackets that, you know, it's cheaper to buy the bullets. So, you know. Buy the complete project, product instead of just a projectile. That's right. The manufacturers have these progressive presses that just go chunk, chunk, chunk, chunk, chunk, and spit it all out and fill them by the barrels. It's hard to meet the economics of that sort of thing if they are in a competitive environment where they actually have to price things reasonably based on cost. Pretty much what I was thinking, I toyed with the idea. paper patching but that would be a very low volume thing or possibly and it's and you're getting into a very small bullet it's going to be hard to do the paper patch also as the bullets get smaller and smaller imagine trying to even a paper patch a 177 for instance you know that's the diameter of a BB you know you're getting so small there I thought that was possibly copper plating I do actually have a setup a small plating setup that I was thinking was a possibility. It's conceivable and you might have results there but I would be a little skeptical. Remember that metal has grain and the way the grains are oriented has an enormous effect on the strength of the metal. When you plate metal on there it's a very random grain. And so it tends to have no strength to speak of. You're just laying on a layer that's as significant as its chemical behavior, not its mechanical behavior. No matter what you plate on, no matter what, you will not be able to detect a mechanical difference between the plated and the unplated part. It's the chemical effect that you're getting. If you copper plate a bullet, first off, it's really difficult to copper plate onto lead competently. People have kind of done it to the point that they've got their lead to turn orange, but it doesn't bond very well. I think you will find that mostly you're leaving that plated copper in the barrel immediately upon firing. So you're sort of thwarting your goal there. Yeah, if you try to cut the powder down too much because you have to remember the casing has to be almost full of powder because it parts from the base from primer to the projectile and then when you're that's fine in one direction but in another direction when you're laying prone on the ground then when your casing is not full of powder when the primer goes off, it ignites the whole top of the powder and you can have a very explosive experience. So it's got to be real careful. You know another thing that you might consider instead of lead, you might want to consider brass or bronze mixture and that'll give you the, what am I saying? The, um, well, that's what we're talking about using malleable. Yes, using a harder metal. At which point, not only do you move away from the convenience of casting such a low melt metal as lead, lead is very easy to cast because it's a low melt, but you're also getting, if you get it that hard, you have to be much more precise on the dimensions. Because, you know, what I tell people about, you know, lead bullets or even jacketed lead is imagine, you know, stuffing a grape slowly down a corrugated tube. That grape is kind of conforming to the tube as it moves. That's what a lead bullet does. And, you know, a jacketed lead bullet is like, you know, dipping that grape in a coating of plastic. You know, it's still conforming. to the tube, it's got a tough skin over it as well, so it doesn't squish quite as much, but the same effect is there. Now if you try to jam a glass marble down that same tube, that glass marble darn better be just the right dimensions, because otherwise you're going to have a problem. So, you know. But that would be a way to get around the question about the lead and the malleability of that by going through a different metal to begin with instead of sticking with the lead projectile and trying to swage it or copper coat it to just go to a completely different metal. And there's also benefits of brass bullets as to where... Right, you go with the harder metal, you're going to have to use other techniques to form it, and you'll have to be more precise about the dimensions, which you can do it. Thank you. I may still play with the idea, but... Yeah, probably six plays by the way we're here. In the short run just by store bought you know x39 for the time being and then experiment as a hobby but don't experiment planning to use the results of the experiment to stock up because you know you may not complete by the time you need the inventory. Quite true and thank you. Now I'm perfectly willing to leave this program experiencing a certain amount of dead air because I figure Ed left us to our own devices and it serves them right if we do that to him. But if anybody wants to speak, you know, feel free. Open airwaves, folks. I will make a comment. I always appreciate hearing the variety of opinions and the considerable amount of knowledge I hear spoken here. We don't know anything we're just good at faking it. I just play as Batman on TV Really you're Batman you tried to kill Superman. How could you? She pissed me off. You tried to take my fat you're referring to the latest movie I haven't even seen it I'm not inclined to get it entertaining. I'm not willing to pay money for that. I will get it free at some point. But I have heard that. There was a conflict between the pro-feds and the heretic superheroes and that Spider-Man came down on the side of the fence. That is just wrong. That is no way. Spider-Man is going to be in a conflict between authority and yetnax. There is absolutely no way in the world Spider-Man is going to side with the suits. I don't care. No, no, they wouldn't. But plot devices they use. Well, they actually did that in the comic books where he sided with the hero, whatever much you'll call it, act. I actually, my sister's into comics so I know that stuff. And I also know that they named this movie the wrong movie. Yes, Batman fought Superman, but it was really, guys. I'm gonna, spoiler alert, if you don't want to know it, turn the mics off now. It was a death of Superman. That's what the name of the movie should have been because that's what it was in the comics Which means now they've got to do the resurrection of Superman which is gonna be a convoluted thing to do in a movie series I've probably been dead a dozen times already, you know Hey BK Yeah, have you had any run-in with this program called Cody? I have only heard it I haven't fooled with it or looked at it and any check it right? length You got to check it out if you want to watch that movie for free You could install that in about 10 minutes and be watching it after the end of the Intel report tonight It's easy. I may very well do that. We will see Does it have facilities for saving what you snag? Yeah, it does. On a certain, what it is, it's Xbox Media Center, XBMC, and they've changed the name of it to Cody and been doing it open source. So basically what you do is you download the program itself, and there's a bunch of different builds out there that have all the different programs you need in it, plug-ins that you already need, already installed, you download the wizard. So what you'd want to do is go watch a YouTube video on Cody Wizards and pick out one you like. I try a bunch of different ones, but you could find one, install it, and watch that movie in about 15 minutes. After watching the video, you'd need about five minutes. That's how quick it is. It's easy. OK. I will consider doing that. Thank you. It's a fun little program to dink around with. Some people say, well, you can turn off your cable TV with this, and then no you can't. Sometimes when you go into the live TV sections, it'll work for a day and then it won't work, and then it'll work about a week later for a couple days, and then it won't work for a couple days. They're up and down. That means the signal sources don't like it, and they change things that the developers accommodate. Yeah, there's a URL resolver in it that tries to fix things as best they can on its own but when the cable companies see the the they're the ones that make up the links and that's what I don't know I know the developers know this but I don't think the users do the links are coming from the cable company itself and When they see that one of the links they created have like 400 people on it. They're like, oh shit They're they're a pirate in the link and they change it But say well I would if if that's provided for commercial Xbox, you know player users then I suspect The developers probably have packet sniffers set up on an Xbox that subscribed And as soon as the Xbox gets a new link, it probably spits that link out through the net to somebody and it gets propagated within minutes to the rest of the network. So that's probably the measures and countermeasures that are going on there. They do a good job of keeping up with it, but the movies, I hardly ever have a problem with movies coming to comment. And they come in you can pick whether you want to watch 1080p or 720p however you want to do it and a lot of them even have single definition stuff there's some 3d movies in there and 4k on some of the Plug-ins that you can get and then if there's not one that in there that you want and you see it You know on YouTube because there's a lot of people that do reviews the plugins you go hey that looks like a good plug-in I might want that one it's got a lot of documentaries on it or whatever and you can go and watch that video and they tell you how to install it you just type in the add the right address and install that plug-in and you're good to go until the link breaks and then you got away again like like said movies I don't really have that much of a problem There's other ways that you can get around that I guess if you really want to get into it But then they're they're getting back in like well if you pay $15 for three months over here you can you know get this account and you can get premium links all the time and Like yeah, but then you're you were your whole selling point on this was turned off your cable box, man And then you're telling me to pay over here. Wait a minute that it would no no no no no no backup backup Yeah, we went off the track there you started going you went from free to now you want me to pay okay? I see how this works so for like I said for movies and stuff it works great for TV Hey, you can you can get away with it if you go and watch like a TV series Those links usually work, but live TV where it's playing a network Yeah, yeah, some of them will will run pretty good others. Well, yeah, if you look at the statistics, almost nobody's watching the networks anymore anyway. If you like watching RT, they have all the RT channels that I try on this. I always get them to come in. I never have a problem. Alright guys, we are RT wants their signal to go out so I bet they don't go to any effort to prevent it We are up at the top of the hour guys. Thank you for covering for me while I was dealing with my company but many untrue and