January 18, 2016
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59m
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Summary
Mark Koernke discussed the armed occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Harney County, Oregon, featuring a speech by Congressman Greg Walden addressing federal overreach in the West. Walden detailed the Hammond family's sentencing under the Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act for a prescribed burn, criticized the federal government's mismanagement of public lands and catastrophic wildfires, and explained how bureaucratic reinterpretation of the Steens Mountain Cooperative Management and Protection Act undermined local cooperation. Koernke and Walden highlighted systemic problems with federal land agencies, fire suppression policies, and the disproportionate legal consequences imposed on rural landowners.
- malheur national wildlife refuge
- harney county oregon
- dwight hammond
- steve hammond
- greg walden
- federal overreach
- blm
- steens mountain
- prescribed burn
- antiterrorism and effective death penalty act
- federal land management
- wildfire suppression
- ranching rights
- public lands
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Live 365 In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God-given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As Iooke vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each god given right, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the plan to the free? here to find it and it is the best summation of that area why they need to be LM doesn't listen to you from your land so they can give it to one of their butt okay by the way that sheriff up there was one of the burn the inch down and we're involved in the criminal activities there is no doubt about that because it's on record everybody know that well you anyway here we go we get this in here it'll probably read a little past the bottom of the hour but that'll work out for us And we'll go to break after that and then throw some more ear candy up while we get a chance. Anyway, here we are. It is, again, Greg Walden addresses US House on situation in Harney County, Oregon, federal overreach in the west. Harney County, Oregon, where a group of protesters armed have overtaken a federal facility, the National Wildlife Refuge. This group is led largely. by people who are not necessarily from Oregon, although they obviously have supporters from Oregon. They are really there to protest the sentencing of Dwight and Steve Hammond. I know the Hammons. I've known them for probably close to 20 years. They're longtime responsible ranchers in Hardy County. They have been sentenced to prison not once, but now twice, and I'll get into that in a moment. It requires people to do to represent Harney County for a number of years. Policies, what happens for Zellis, and it has not. It's important to understand how big this region is. So, the district in Oregon, something like the seventh or eighth biggest. If you overlay it over these Harney County, square miles and souls, and have one person for every 1.4 miles. The Rhode Island, larger than the state of America, the public's land. Sure, it's a great American West. How much does it care environment, about their children, about America. The institution will go to defend what they view as takeovers. And I think the top public is happening in the West, and perhaps it's time for them to realize they've made their case and to go home. But what happened with the Hammonds? Burned 180 square miles, quarter in size in the state of Rhode Island. That was just in 2012. Berry Point Fire that year in Lake County next door is across Oregon. That's both Forest and High Desert. 3.4 million acres burned, long-draw fire, and 2012 burned 557,000 acres, five times the size of Rhode Island. So 93,000 acres, 557,000 acres, 160,000 acres, all burning. This isn't tonight, served in time going forward five years. As Bill Clinton threatened to create a giant monument on Steens Mountain. When Secretary Babbitt, Interior Secretary at the time, came before the House Resources Committee, which I was a member, I said, Mr. Secretary, and resource advisory committees in the area, this reported that there was no need for additional protection on Steens Mountain, and yet, you and the President are threatened to have additional protections or need it and then ignore what they came up with. The local ranchers and citizens like to do if you gave them a chance, they said, all right, I will give them that chance. Full-time, multiple steps, and we worked with the environmental community and others. We did the Steens Mountain Cooperative Management and Protection. This has never been done before, because I said, we don't have to live by past laws, we write laws. cooperative spirit in Arne County. We protected partnership and cooperation that the federal government and the citizens should have. Fast forward on that particular law and cooperation and spirit of cooperation was involved on the other side to reinterpret it. The first thing they tried to do is shut down this kid camp because they said, well, too many, maybe more than 20, run down this canyon back up as they had for many, many years. I wanted to shut it down. No, the law says historical standards. bureaucrats' historical access to your property, you're up on Steens Mountain, you should maintain that access. And to solicit from the end holders in this area, how many times did you go up there last? You see, they wanted to put a noose around the neck. To her inside that was a to-go, under this law, and said clearly in this law would be the responsibility of the government to put up Pence's agreement. And now we're not gonna follow that. They had to build a fence. And it was part of writing this law. I said, Peter, you I remember that, right? I said, yeah, I didn't like it, but that was the case. Second rancher who brought this to my attention, who this is when the government was supposed to under the law, I wrote. I know what the internet enough had to go to this archive, drag out the box 2000, when we wrote this law, from the hearings that had all the records in tenon, our retired member George Miller, actually we used some of his information where he said the government would provide the fencing. F***ed him to follow it. So I put language in the appropriations bill that restated the the people on the ground, Oregonians running the thing, do you send meals for militia? What fun with this. This is not a laughing consequence. No, it's gone too far. It's appropriate. There's a right to protest gone too far. To walk away, let's bring down this, honest with us, and tell us they are going to do it. Hang her out there. Or fuel on this fire in the west. Her management. Send her to the public and then, I think this I believe, they had a public hearing standing full and their government. I haven't gotten into the Fire is rough and full government frequently will go on private land and set a fire without permission to bury point fire in county. They're darn lucky to have come out alive. Fire doesn't mean they're judged. Acted in Oregon. This is here. Andatory minimums, which is grossly disproportionate to the severity of defenses here. Judge went on to say, terrorism and effective death penalty act of conduct would not have been conduct intended under the statute. When you ask, you know, what if you burn state? In the suburbs of Los Angeles, their homes up the ravines, that's what the Congress intended. It just would not meet any idea I have of just proportionality. A sentence which conscience, your judge Mike Hogan, the original sentencing. They were charged and convicted. Judicial sentence that was proportionate made open incredibly beautiful harsh. The fire were losing a mauled a fire. In 1908, very aggressive. Better though, refuge in the ranchers were closer together. It itself up to the ranchers for speed there, but shutting down stock ponds and irrigation canals and a way of life and just gets away. The whole one's really held accountable. The women who law and do the right things, how oppressed they feel, defend the flag and the country. Sons and daughters will go to war, cough on the monument, Hammond is in putsie and then are written added, but have been out there and what we can do. want any sheriff is whenever everybody gets a chance to see the parasite. Of course he sides with everything that those BLM has to get the table scrapings. You know maybe somebody's car tractor enjoy his all the way through see January the report and Oregon is 4 24 p.m. for quite some time. There was an effective place remember give a hoot don't pull off he's gonna bear friends together and they're gonna fight them so that the new West so again Share this particular piece for Greg Walden in Harney County, Oregon, in the West. Now this is why people have come up and said, hey, at least you're drawing some intel, Fiesence is a big problem for a number of different people. Number one, the agencies collect all the monies they always have for fighting the fires, but they never do. This is why, as this congressman pointed out, these fires have gotten so big and out of it. Guys, it used to be for air firefighting operations, has been in place for literally decades and hell it have to be what the CO 2016 more than half a century in what year the 60 year 2050 years what year is that 60 you think they had aircraft for war to firefighting fleet became very economical yeah they don't want to share able to regrow they're able to work the problem land better their lands that's why she have a bunch of other fruit loops they owe interest and manage file the paperwork and they know how to the system of the resources that are there. Offshore accounts, print, I want to do it step where we go. You know, somebody said someone here at first hand, back in full swing, date that, we from locations, pray to God. Hey dad, before we go, dad, before we go. I hear another voice there. Yeah, it's me. Hang on. Before we completely take off, the website is fixed. There we go. 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