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The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money is spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors, so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores, and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise. Take a stand. Defend the Constitution, the supreme law of the land. Preserve our great Republic and each God-given right. And pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Dill the land of the free good evening ladies and gentlemen, I don't hear mark, so I'll get started this oh there. He is I'm here And, getting right into it, that's okay. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. This is the Evening Intel Report. I'm Mark Hernke. And, Butter Knife. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, southwest, east, and north. Ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on... LibertyTreeRadio.4MG.com, IndianaFreedomTalkRadio.com, we're on AM and FM microstations, CB base stations, alternate hallmark and golden spike technologies east and west of the Mississippi. along with Alaska. And I'll tell you what, BK, it's been a warm summer day. We haven't had as many of these that have been this warm. Lots of sun, all the solar panels, all the batteries are charged up, all the solar panels kicked in, and our perimeter lighting is going to be by tonight. Plus we've got a big moon too. It's a half, more than a half moon, and it's probably going to be clear. So guys, got some good travel weather for our friends heading up to the camps. Emory Camerson, New Camp Stasa, Wayland North. Ogama, the Nagyhicham site, and of course Fox and Camp Wolf, those are mosquito bite sites. So hey guys, take the mosquito bars, make sure you don't forget them, you're gonna need them. It's mosquito time. DK, what's today? Let's jump off the wall please. It is 24 July 2015. It is Friday evening. It is the last hour of the day and the week four of the Intelligence Report and that makes this Quartermaster's Corner. And I'm a bit of a wet noodle. I was out there in 90 degree weather today mowing because This is basically about the first day and I don't know how long, has actually dry enough to do it. It's been drying for a couple, three days. Finally the grass is dry enough I can actually get out there and mow some of the volunteer saplings were popping up and I had to deal with those guys. It's been so long. We've been having a wet summer to a degree that I find absolutely astonishing and it's remarkable that I'm not hearing more talk about that. There is no way in the world this amount of rain is normal. Finally dried out for three days running. Supposed to get wet tomorrow again. but at least I got all of that stuff chopped down once today and another layer added onto the not very well designed compost pile. Sooner or later I will dig that up and the bottom half of it will be nice compost even though I'm not doing a very careful job of building it. If you're patient All you have to do is dump piles and piles and piles of stuff and even a poorly constructed compost pile will compost. I'm quite certain that that is a seasonal home for creatures because they seem to like it when I pile three or four feet of leaves back there on the same pile. So, you know, but they haven't given me any trouble. So I haven't had to go out and deal with them in an energetic fashion. Earlier this week there was some talk about OnStar generated by the hacking stunt that's been out in the corporate press. Some people hacked a Chrysler Jeep and proved that from many many miles away through the remote control system they could take control of the vehicle systems and do all sorts of unpleasant things to it, not just little silly stuff like play with the windshield wipers and whatnot, but also such things as shut down the transmission and so on remotely. And this has caused a certain amount of embarrassment for Chrysler. That led people on our program to start talking about OnStar and things of this sort. Well, I burned up an awful lot of minutes trying to get a word in edgewise that night and never managed to. So let's cover a little bit of the technical stuff that people asked about and did not get answers to. The answer to some of those questions from a couple of days ago was The OnStar system is built on cell phone technology, not satellite. And the way it works is that it has two cell phone antennas in the car. Reason for that is that there's one of them under the chassis so that the system can operate even if the vehicle is overturned and sitting in muck or something along those lines. So if you want to disable the OnStar system on a General Motors vehicle, you're going to have to find both of those cell phone antennas remove them and preferably cap the connector because even without an antenna connected you can often get a signal through to a connector if it's a nice strong signal or the tower is nearby. Now the early phases of OnStar were analog cell, first four or five generations or versions or what have you. Nowadays it's all digital. I do not know the degree of integration, the extent to which it has control of vehicle subsystems in the early versions, but you can assume that the digital version probably uses fairly generic protocols and If my experiences, you know, programming for automotive companies, those are not extensive, but there is a little bit, or any indication is probably not very good code, so there are probably weaknesses. What's more, the feds have been approaching so many companies, we've heard about internet companies, but you can be sure there are others saying, put this back door in, give us access to that. so on and so forth to the extent that you cannot assume that the computers in your vehicle are secure, they may actually have deliberate compromise software in there for one reason or another. The OnStar systems do have a little bit of satellite capability in the form of GPS so that they can report their location. in the event of a distressed call, but that is a receive function, not a transmit function. People are under the impression that GPS can somehow report your location to the satellite. It doesn't work that way. If nothing else, most terrestrial transceivers, or terrestrial units don't have the power to broadcast a very strong signal to a satellite. They'd have to be tuned into it very, very tightly to talk. And if you think about it from the point of view of a satellite, there's an awfully big footprint down there. Which of the million little blinking dots do you pay attention to? So, it is not hard to understand that GPS is a receive-only function on the ground. Nonetheless, the OnStar systems do have GPS receivers. So if you do not trust the software onboard, and I think it's sensible to not trust the software onboard, it is entirely physically possible for an OnStar or similarly equipped vehicle to track its own location and simply emit a blip to the cell phone network reporting its location. So there's really no need for the cops to go crawling under your car and attaching a gadget to your undercarriage as they have done in the past if you have one of the newer automobiles. Now, I have a question. Shoot. I have been old and I guess what I said I believe around it, but I took the microphone, I thought that maybe when you don't want them to, you know. Well, it's entirely technically feasible for them to do that. Yes. So I took the antenna off, what I need now is to actually snip the Y between the two. But where is this underneath? What am I looking for under the chassis? You're looking for a second antenna very similar to the first one that you removed, unless you're talking about the broadcast radio antenna being removed. But you're basically looking for a cell phone antenna underneath there, and that's probably only a couple three inches long. So you're looking for something attached by a wire and doesn't have any other obvious function. but it is all of the OnStar's have two antennas with the intention of being able to operate even if the vehicle is upside down. It'll probably be the box. Look at the one on the roof. You'll notice it's tapered for streamlining, for wind resistance. Well, the one on the roof may or may not be the regular OnStar connection. That might be the GPS antenna. Right. Whenever you look at number one, see how the design is set up and how it's weatherized. That's how it will be weatherized underneath because it's dealing with road damage, rocks, pebbles, whatever it does down there. It has to be armored. It's going to be heavily armored even though it's going to look a little like it's on steroids but it's shielded so that it can take the abuse. It's got to be able to take both the moisture and the abuse. Like you said, if it rolls over, it's upside down or however it's positioned, one antenna or the other will still continue to pull a signal or send a signal. Or look at it this way, the OnStar device was an option, it's clearly a device added in optionally. It's going to be in a little box. So if you just follow the wires for the known antennas back to a little box, then you can say, oh, that's the OnStar box, and just disconnect all the wires from the OnStar box, and you probably got it covered, even if you're not sure where all the wires go to. I just don't like being a track like a chip tapper, you know? Well, yeah, there's that. We could also talk about some of the other devices besides onboard vehicle stuff. There are gadgets, gaming gadgets, cable television boxes and so on. They're starting to pick up voice commands. Some of the newer televisions have voice command modes. Those televisions don't have a lot of processor in them to decode voice commands. What they're doing is they're squirting the audio back to home base and bigger computers there are analyzing the audio and converting it. So in practical terms, they are listening to you as well. And the only way to truly disable that is either don't give them an internet connection at all, which means you'll lose Netflix and things like that, or do something to the microphone so it's physically unable to pick up ambient audio. That's what I did. I just, I took the little cover off. I physically, I fired nippers and I followed together and then folded the wires back together and there you go. Exactly. The weird thing about this sort of spy technology, for instance, in laptops, the average laptop now has not only a microphone built in but also a camera, is that it's actually easier to disable a camera because it's easier to slap a little bit of tape over the camera. which disables that effectively, then it is to find the darn microphone and poke it with a pin or open the whole bezel and find the thing and snip the wire or whatever the case may be. So the fancier facility, the camera is actually easier to disable than the more basic facility of the microphone. May I ask a question, please? Shoot, shoot. On the speaker, microphone, Mike was just mentioning feasible or plow speakers in the radio. I don't understand the question. It is technically possible to use a speaker as a microphone, but the electronics are different. I very much doubt that the manufacturers would do that stuff. I think that they would go along with the insertion of hostile software or firmware into their devices, but I doubt they're going to spend an extra nickel on behalf of the spooks. So, yeah, it's entirely physically conceivable, but I would consider it a very low probability that that's the case. The other thing that I wanted to point out to people is that aside from all of these system management computers, and there are a ridiculous number of microcomputers in automobiles nowadays. because a microprocessor is really invented for the purposes of reducing chip count is what it really boils down to. An awful lot of things we use a microprocessor for nowadays could certainly be done with random logic and MSI and so forth, but it reduces the chip count to do it in firmware in a one or two dollar processor. So they're used all over the place. Your car is going to be in serious do-do if all of the microprocessors quit like people imagine EMP will do. I don't think it's actually going to be quite as thorough a devastation as people say even if it occurs, but it certainly will be an awful lot of damage. But here's the thing, one of the very earliest computers that is in a regular road automobile is in your fuel injection system. Okay? Those are not mechanical, well they are mechanical systems, but they are electronically controlled. That's how the throttle works. There's a microprocessor controlling the fuel injection system. Without that microprocessor operating, your fuel injected engine is just so much scrap metal that it's just a brick. So if your vehicle does not have a carburetor, you are computer dependent. It doesn't matter how many spares you may have of the voltage regulator module and diodes for the alternator and things of this sort. If you don't have a spare for that fuel injection computer, that machine is going to be toast. One of the ways you can deal with that. is if you're accumulating $100 vehicles and overhauling them and putting them aside for use later on, make sure that you get carbureted vehicles because they are not dependent upon the electronics to that extent. They will generally have a solid state voltage regulator and some diodes in the alternator and a few things like that, but they are pretty much mechanical analog devices. The spark advance is driven by a little tube that draws vacuum against the diaphragm and things of this sort. Those are not electronic systems there. So just something to think about. The feds and so on have very little respect for the carbureted vehicles anymore. It's getting kind of hard to find people to rebuild a carburetor. Last time I had my carb rebuilt, This guy's wanted $600 for a rebuilt carburetor. Come on guys, you know, the kit just still costs $40 for, you know, all the little springs and gaskets and whatnot. And it takes about two hours just like it ever did. Where are you charging $600? So, you know, I got somebody else to do it for, you know, $150. But... You know it's getting kind of silly The first time you rebuild your carburetor is going to be a hellish exercise a second size time is not too hard Because it's just a matter of keeping track of all those little parts and remembering where they came from and Documenting them making notes as you pull it apart so you know where things go back again so You know carburetor is good. Okay, they're not the most efficient things, but darn they are simple and they have to be in really, really bad shape to not operate. Let's see, oh, one other topic that came up that evening were the G-Wiz devices. They called them stingers or something like that. They were supposed to be little runaway-style robots that you shoot out from under the radiator grill of a police car and they would scoot under a fleeing vehicle and cause sparks and make their engines stop and so on. You haven't seen any of those on the road, have you? Because it's not a very practical system. What happens with those things is that modern automobiles, as we mentioned, have an awful lot of electronics in them. Digital electronics nowadays run on either 5 or more commonly 3.3 volts power supplies. Your car runs on 12 volts. So all of those modules have a little voltage regulator IC in there that drops 12 volts down to 3.3 or 5 volts. those devices intended to kill a car do one of two things. They apply a big voltage spike to some portion of the car in hopes that they're getting a voltage spike on the power bus that will overwhelm that voltage regulator or in hopes of getting a voltage spike on one of the signal I-O lines and going way past the 0 to 3.3 volts that they expect and fraying something. They are not selective. just hope to break something. If they break enough stuff in your electronics, then your engine or transmission or something will quit and presumably you will come to a halt. Interestingly, this driven towards completely fly-by-wire vehicles may put the kibosh on any such plans of that sort. You can imagine the lawsuit when somebody steals a fly-by The steering goes completely out of control, then goes flying off into the weeds somewhere and runs over grandma. So, and that would be the last use of that device anywhere because it is so non-selective to just, you know, fry things. But the principal... One second and we'll do that. The principal planned there was that they would simply have a, you know, charge up a big capacitor with a lot of voltage. shoot it under the car and have some wires sticking up so that they they whip along eventually they touch something and cause a lot of sparks and arcs and jumps around and uh... big spikes and wreck some stuff in the electronics is completely non-selective there's no grace there's no elegance to it there was no control it's just you know Let's just apply a big zap and see what we can break. And we'll do it five times and the one that works properly will put on the G-Wiz television program to show what a wonderful thing we've got. Okay, go ahead. Well, I missed the very beginning of this piece, but I've been hearing and seeing these little squares on the highway's net where they'll cut the concrete out. understanding that if they're putting electrical devices in there like EMP devices that can be remotely basically by turning enough of them on they'll fry out and it'll complete the roadway making it basically a giant parking lot. It can get like when I go to I notice like a ton of these things outside of the road up in such a way to where whether you're coming or going if it fries the car it'll turn it for miles like a giant parking we can get in or in It is conceivable. It is conceivable that those devices you're looking at are something destructive of that sort, but I am disinclined to think that's the case. I suspect it's probably something hostile but more subtle than that. It's probably something more along the lines of the easy pass, the vehicle ID is something of that sort. It's probably more spook and coop than it is monkey wrenching would be my guess. I don't have specific data on the devices you're seeing, but that would be my guess. This is probably more about surveillance than it is about breaking stuff. If I were going to wreck traffic with some sort of EMP device, I'd just mount an EMP generator in a panel van and take it wherever I wanted to and zap 100 cars. I wouldn't spend a lot of time and money and have to do it in advance and choose a location in advance and put a lot of electronics in place and have them committed into a particular spot and all of this kind of good stuff. I just have it mobile in a van and just goes up someplace. Give them ideas. Well, you know, this isn't... They can think of this stuff. I mean, you know, anybody bright enough to do this stuff is bright enough to figure out, you know, what to do with it. But I'm inclined to think that anything that's pre-positioned, fixed in place like that, is probably more surveillance and tracking than monkey-wrenching. That would be my take. Okay, I was just... Thank you. I was just wondering... I'm just aware... ball with us when I drive home, blah, blah, blah, and it's just constantly think about these things. It's not in a worry type of state, it's just an awareness type of state where what are the size of the people on the highway, you know, and stuff like that. So I just kind of... It's just a good idea to have all those contingency plans and so forth to know what the paths are, to have some, you know, water along and things of this sort. You know and and to know which way to go and everybody else is standing around trying to figure out which way to go The other thing I'll mention is that most of the monkey wrenching they do if you're driving a car braided vehicle Well, those are kind of hard to knock out by these surreptitious methods and they'll have to you know Come up and you know run you off the road or something in order to you know cause a problem or just box you in with all of the other cars that are disabled So, if you can pull off onto the shoulder, you know, go puttling along in your 4x4 and get to a side road and so on, that carbureted vehicle will generally keep going under most of these assaults. You mean like the 1960s, early 70s vehicle or something of that nature? Even into the early 80s. I drive an 85 and it's the last year of the model that I have that was carbureted. The 86s had fuel injection. So that was the cutoff point on that model. So, you know, even into the early 80s. I got to get another truck. I got a 2000,000 and I like that thing, but electrical side or something, where they happen, a situation. I mean, even with all my gear, it just, it would be a situation for me because my, situation there. It would be a pain in the neck. Also, you know, if you can pick up a hundred dollar truck somewhere, stick it in a barn and kind of overall it and get it going, you know, it's a nice, nice little project and it's a nice thing to have on the side ready to go. Don't forget a few barrels of gasoline with some preservative in it. Oh, there you go. That's one thing I've been trying to tell people that as far as, you know, engines and that, if you got a footer that those things, 11 gallons. fluid in that. So that's another 40-50 gallons of hydraulic fluiders because you've got to change the filters when you change the fluid, blah blah blah. And because all this stuff is manufactured stuff, be it the oil or the filter, none of it is like horribly bent. So if you put it by, the filters ain't going to go bad, neither is the oil. When you can't get it anymore, you have it. Exactly so. And you know, also you want to have the wood ball and things like that as your ultimate backup, right? I've done that. And if you're going through that much wood. You might want to look into the rocket mass heaters because they are a very efficient method of heating with wood. They're a little bit awkward. Not every house has a location that would be suitable for installing one, but they are an interesting little development. They're very, very efficient. They radiate some heat and they heat up a massive masonry to continue to radiate at some level once they get warmed. So, you know. It's like a concrete line, right? Well, they're masonry. You can use flue liners, you can use refractory concrete, you can use whatever you want. The theory of them is they burn very, very hot so that they burn everything. And Then they maintain the air flow as a horizontal air flow by running through a cooling sleeve which you know commonly is a 55 gallon steel drum by radiating heat off of that drum that cools the air enough to create a downdraft so that they can be installed to burn sideways in effect. You know they get a nice strong draft even though it's going sideways rather than up a flue. those hot gases after the very high temperature burn and of course are run through a masonry chamber to give up as much as possible of their heat before they head out of the house. than that. Yeah, ideally it would because part of the benefit is to make it very, very massive. But if you've got wooden floors, then you have to pay attention to that before you consider putting one. Yeah. Because it could cave the floor choice. You'd have to put, like I said, lolly columns all the way across the steel columns in the basement, support the weight of it. Then because concrete, you know, per inch per inch or foot per foot, extremely heavy. And in some, like you said, circumstances, situations, it works depending on the type of home you have. Sometimes it doesn't, you know, and that's kind of the rub. We've been using this stove. And so I just thank God I have it because if electricals, whatever, that's our primary source of heat and there you go, you know. Yeah, other technology you might think about. is that if you have a basement and you're not using it as a cold cellar, if you don't mind warming up the basement, then a Russian stove is the same sort of thing. It's a heavy masonry assembly. The idea is that you burn very finely split wood. You know, you can call it kindling and get a very hot, very fast fire running. And in 15 or 20 minutes, you've burned it all out, but you've heated up all that masonry. and then it radiates for the next several hours. The Russians have done it, the Swedes did it. All of those cold weather climates have a variation on that. Again, it's a massive pile of masonry and that's the whole point. So you would want that to sit on dirt. But if you've got a basement, then it would be feasible to build that into the basement. Doing that would achieve some of the same things as the rocket mass. because the idea is that you get a very very fast very hot burn and the very very hot burn is efficient because it gets all of the stuff you don't have a lot of wood smoke coming out. It's a little teeny bit of bass in there and like for me this year cleaning it out everything all the dead pop it's a waste on what not because we're getting to a point to where everything that we've always depended on be it you got electric heat you got propane heat It can't be dependent on it. It's going to be gone. Pimple pops. I'm going to go shortly. My personal belief, the only thing we're going to find is it keep from freezing it up will be wood. I have three wood stoves. If this one and so. You could also, if you have a shop, it's entirely possible you might be able to do the rocket mask thing out in the shop. Proges are concrete floor. It's only a probably four inch pour upside in there for the bait. I can't work at it. You know, I have electric heat out there in the wood stove and even that when it's like 20 blow zero and it gets a hot lock holder and that out here, I can't even work out there because I can think about it as the cold out here. Yeah, fingers work better when they bend. Especially like you're working on a table saw, you wouldn't be thinking about running a piece of wood through. Now, I just nicked my finger recently actually and it's still numb. This is about two months ago and I wasn't even told. It's a whole different story. I raised the floor up, I got a wood floor just so I'm not standing concrete and a wood stove in there and it takes the edge off a little bit if it's not too cold. You might throw down a couple of sheets of foam or something like that here and there. I'll also give you a spongy surface to step on. But you might think about the rocket mask for the shop because if it's got a concrete floor it could support the weight. There you go. Okay, so we've completed that. topic about vehicle electronics and some of the espionage that's going on and all of that kind of good stuff. Let's get to one of the more traditional topics. If you do not have any kind of battle rifle, get yourself a Mosin-Nagant. If you do have a Mosin-Nagant or something along those lines and you're thinking in terms of improving your long-term inventory, I have an option for you. Now, first off, let's do a little bit of history. The roller lock arms that we are familiar with were made famous in the civil market, at least here, by HK. And, you know, the G3 came out as a HK91 civilian version, so on and so forth. As usual, HK did a lot of, you know, clever marketing and charged an awful lot for these things. Nobody ever had any qualms about the quality of them. They don't like the way they ding up the brass and so forth. But they are certainly very reliable and whatnot. They were based on a rifle called the Satme. which was developed by a bunch of Nazis who conveniently took a five-year vacation in Spain during World War II. I guess they didn't want their precious little beehinds to get sucked up into the war effort and develop this roller lock mechanism. The Zadmi rifle is not exactly the same as the G3 that is derived from it, but it's awfully close. The main differences that you will notice as a user are the rear sights. and the G3 or HK91 or PTR91, etc. Rear sights are clearly superior to the Zetmis. You can put optics on it or you can adapt a Zetmis to the HK style rear sights. In general, they are largely compatible. The overall form factor is the same, the receiver style is the same, and so on. The fire control groups, the pistol grip and all that mechanism associated there simply come out and are replaceable. They are a big assembly that just disconnects. Those fire control groups are different from each other internally. but they are identical externally. That means that you could take a fire control group off of a set and you put it onto a G3 or vice versa and it would work just fine. You wouldn't know the difference. If you start taking them apart and trying to replace pins and springs and things like that, you'll find they're different inside. However, you can also buy these whole fire control groups as surplus assemblies for $50 to $70 at lots of different vendors. So it's if you have this style of rifle, it's silly to not just have a spare fire control group around someplace. Now the receivers are slightly different. in that they are a stamping wrapped around a mandrel and welded. How close you push the two sides together before you weld them, of course, influences the width of the magazine well. And the set-me magazine well was just a net's whisker narrower than the German G3HK91's magazine well. So if you have an honest to gosh, real original set me, you don't, being in the US and what with the stupid import rules and all that kind of good stuff. But if you did, you would find that some of the HK magazines would fit and some of them would not. And some of them you might have to sand them down a little bit with a with a polishing stone or something along those lines, but it's a pretty close fit. Modern rifles made by say, you know, the PTR lines, most of the set me build, so on and so forth, are intended to be used with a G3. So the people who wrap them around the mandrels and weld them are going to use a G3 magazine as a guide for the width so that that width issue should not be a problem. This is the reason, however, why original set me mags tend to be scarcer and much more expensive than G3 magazines because some of the setmes made early on weren't quite as roomy in the magazine well and needed that particular style of magazine. Some of the collectors, of course, want to have the originals. Give me a moment here. Okay, so aside from that, there are some internal differences but not very many. That is, the barrel is the same, the receiver is essentially the same as we described, the furniture is the same, fire control group is the same. The roller lock mechanism is a little bit different. The CETME roller lock mechanism, as designed, is a little bit gentler on extraction than the German version, or the Germans made theirs a little bit more violent, you know, since they're the follow-on. So the locking piece they call them, this is a little triangular mechanism that pushes the rollers apart when things slide forward and back, has a different taper. So some of those internal mechanisms up in the top end, the bolts, the sliding part, are a little bit different from one rifle to the next, but the whole overall assembly works fine. Basically, if you build a set-me rifle and you do a proper job of it and you put a G3 rear sight on there, you're not going to know or care the difference between that and a PTR. It uses the same style of barrels and everything else. That being the case, As Mark has told us about 8,047 times, the G3 magazines are very cheap. They are becoming less widely available, but they're still out there in some numbers. An example is that Royal Tiger Imports is advertising used aluminum for $2 right now. There are new and used on the market. There are aluminum and steel on the market. There's a certain amount of, oh you want to have this deal once, not the aluminum. I think the aluminum will work for most people most of the time just fine. What good does that do you if you do not have $800 for a PTR? Well, I have a deal for you. If you go over to Sarco, That is e-sarcoinc.com. And you take a look around, you will find that right now you can for $200 get a Set Me C Rifle Parts Kit. What is a Set Me C? Well, Set Me went through a few different versions and used different calibers of ammunition and so on. Set Me C is the production version that uses the .308 NATO round. So Set Me Model C is the one you want. For $200, they will sell you a parts kit. It has everything except the receiver and the barrel. Add $100 and they'll throw in a barrel. So, you know, you want to do that. So that's $300 for a full parts kit with a barrel. If you then go over to Robert RTG, they're not the only vendor for it, but they are a good vendor with a good price. That is Robert They will sell you a receiver flat for $70. That's the receiver flat that you would need to wrap around a mandrel and weld in order to make a functional receiver. So you get that receiver flat, you wrap it around a mandrel and weld it. You have a receiver, you assemble the rifle onto it, and you have a functional rifle. One second again. talking too much, my throat's getting raw. What do you actually have when you do this? Well, you will actually have a fully functional select-fire battle rifle, which means that you don't do that now. You do not do that within U.S. jurisdiction under the current legal system straight up. The people that build these things as semi-autos have to jump through all sorts of hoops and grind little bits and pieces off of some of the internal parts and weld extra little pieces into the receiver into the fire control group and do strange things to the mounting pins and so on and so forth in order to make the Bat-Feche's happy. My attitude is All that extra work is not only extra work to get a less functional rifle, but is going to delay you. So, why do it? Just collect the pieces, put them aside if and when the time comes, then assemble the rifle. Under current rules, you're not allowed to assemble the rifle within US jurisdiction. And the feds seem to think that the entire planet is US jurisdiction nowadays. Notice that we even invade foreign countries for the purpose of kidnapping their heads of state and so on, blow up houses on the other side of the planet. so on and so forth. So there doesn't seem to be any common sense on the part of our Feds anymore about where the end of their reach, what are the limits of their jurisdiction. So do not count on any limitations or self-restraint on their part in that area. Simply collect those parts, put them all together into a box and assemble later when the time comes. But, that being said, for $370 you will have all the parts necessary to assemble a full, totally competent battle rifle. Spend another $100 on 50 magazines and you should be in business. Then you will be in a position to spend your paycheck every week for God knows how long buying ammunition because .308 is still not cheap, but that's a whole other issue. Mark, anything to add? Well, again, the ammunition is the next step. Once you've got the basics set me up and online, the flats, of course, I don't know what level of completion they're at. A lot of them are at 60 to 70 percent. You have to wrap the flat around a mandrel. Use the bolt as a model to assemble the mandrel, but people have used, I think, 3 quarter inch water pipe to good effect if they're very careful. They just bolt the water pipe down to their workbench, you know, pinning the flat. to the workbench and then with a screwdriver on both sides they carefully just go through up and down, up and down, up and down prying the two parts together until they eventually get them to mate properly. Run the bolt in and out to make sure they've got the clearance correct. Use a magazine as a guide and clamp it all up and when they've got it to their satisfaction then weld it. The big thing here again is remember Harbor Freight for all the tools you need and you can even, Harbor Freight even has MIG welders guys. So if you wanted to practice MIG welding a little bit, work on some other metal and then this would be a good project for a really clean MIG weld. Because you can do crude and rude or you can dress or fancy either way. The neat thing about the Setme is still lots of parts for both the Setme and the HK91. the PTR rifles. In fact, there's even some little buys here and there because of, you know, stack ups of parts. I don't know, right now, Apex would be one, Centerfires and others, so little goodies or bits and pieces that you put into the armorers box just in case. Big kits, that's actually a pretty good price right now for as extensive a kit. considering that they've been chopping them up for parts and selling the parts for even more money guys. So if you can run into a kit you might even consider that if you have a set me already putting another set me parts kit on the shelf wouldn't hurt. Especially if you have a rack of five, maybe you've already built a bunch for a 5.10 program. Well, some might break, so spare parts are spare parts. If you bought a semi-auto commercially manufactured set me, be aware that it's got all of the bad fishy mangling in it. So, you know, parts that you're buying may or may not be very useful to you. You have to check and see what's what. On Apex, they have been advertising Setme L kits. Now, Setme L is 556. That's 223. That's not going to use the same receiver plate, and I don't know of a stamped receiver available anywhere for the Setme L. But if you think about it, the G3 magazines are not the same as the AR magazines. The Setme L uses the AR mag. that receiver is not going to be right for the SetMeL. So I don't know of a source of receivers for the SetMeLs. Do not spend the money on the Apex SetMeL kit unless you have some plan for a receiver. Or somebody has come up with something off on the horizon. If we go through the user groups, we might find something there. The 223HKs and the 223SETME are unique for magazine and they're expensive. So it's a neat little idea. Somebody finally cobbled some up and that's how those came into the parts inventory. The other thing about 308 ammunition, let's not forget UNAMMO.com and AMMOMAN.com both got a little bit in both PMC and Wolf. The PMC is good ammunition and the price is actually pretty reasonable for PMC right now. They haven't brought as much in as they used to, but at least it's showing up on the market. So if you're looking for reloadable, boxer prime, a heenial case, PMC would be the other option. Before we go, one more thing here. Palmetto State Armory. Palmetto State Armory. Palmetto State Armory. They have... Back in stock for the weekend, the PTAC 16-inch mid-length 5.56 NATO 1.7-twist phosphate rifle. It's the whole kit, everything but the lower receiver, and $380. Now, that's a pretty reasonable price. And Anderson lower receivers from AIM Surplus, for $40 apiece, they've got them in stock. So for $40, you can get from AIM Sur... surplus, an Anderson lower, it's not one of the BLEMs. The BLEM receivers were only $30. They sold out. But they do have the standard receiver, I guess, average grade, $40 for that receiver from AIM surplus and $380 for the PTAC. It's a weekend special. Free shipping, by the way, too. So again, you got the shipping out of the way and for $380, that's the price. which is pretty cool. So if you're looking for building another, excuse me there, then take the time, plug in and go to Palmetto State Armory. Then go to their weekend specials and it's down towards the bottom and I don't see a number. It's just the PTAC 16 inch mid-length, that's the mid-length gas system. And it's 5.56, one in seven twist, phosphate finish rifle, nothing to write home about, just a basic AR-15 with a folding stock. which works just fine for anybody who's looking for another 223 rifle. See what you can find there. Anyway, anything else? Yes, there's some interesting news. Powder Valley Ink has two powders that we have not seen in a dog's age and they're actually rather cheap by current standards. For 146, you can now get eight pounds of BLC2. This is one of the classic 308 powders, a long time favorite, lots of people like it. We have not seen that on the market for a dog's age. It seems to be back in stock. 146 at Powder Valley, 164 at Grafs. They both have it. The other news is that Powder Valley has another classic back in stock. Again, for 146 for an 8 pound jog, remember an awful lot of these things are anywhere from 165 to 200. For 146, they have H335, which is one of my long time favorite high versatility powders. They'll do anything from 223 to 308 and they'll do it pretty well. So, that is BLC2 and H335, both back in stock at Powder Valley after God knows how long a hiatus. 146 for an 8-pound jug. It's not only our old friend, a classic that we like, but it's also a pretty darn good price. PowderValleyInk.com. Take a look. Hodgton. Somebody at Hodgton has been busy recently or... You know, maybe people are running out of money and they're getting caught up or something. I don't know what the case is. But two old time favorites, BLC2 and H335 have both reappeared at Powder Valley at a good price at $146 and the BLC2 also at graphs at $164. Okay? So we're done. We're at the top. 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