Live 365. It really truly is. But forgiveness is ex post facto, isn't it? Forgiveness is, that's a Latin phrase, forgive me for that. It's after the fact, isn't it? Can you forgive someone who's trying to stab you with a knife while you're trying to defend yourself? There's no forgiveness in there. There's just fierceness, isn't there? God does not expect you to lay down or to watch as your family is murdered. We talk about, and again, I say this from the bottom of my heart, the forgiveness that is poured from that church is to be admired. It is almost beyond human, but in the middle of the fight you can't forgive anyone, can you? Forgiveness comes, bear that in mind. Ponder on that. Please, please. That makes milk toast out of men. And you just need to hang around a little while and dry out. Here's the music here I think, but before we go any farther, Don, are you going to be able to stick around and get a... 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A million petticoat junction operators, the ability to continue to function when everything else. is offline. So it is a beautiful gray afternoon as Don was saying the first hour we're like on the edge of rain it looks like it wants to then it doesn't but then it still looks like it wants to and then it doesn't and this is the southern part of Michigan but it's happening up north the same way so for everybody out there expect a little moisture in Michigan across the board not a surprise I think it's just the way things are going to be. everybody should act accordingly. Around the country we're still getting damp and wet, a little drier to the south for typically it would be this time of year, but we've had a real wet season moving in so far. So we'll see how it works out. We'll find out whether or not there's going to be any significant changes or anything jumping out at us. So far, I think it's 1976 all over again, unless something happens after the turn of the month here, and I just don't see that. They expect it to be kind of like tropical rainforest with extra ticks and extra mosquitoes. And boy, we got ticks. We got big ticks right now across the state. Everybody's complained about them. Check for those. That's one of those things you got to watch for and then act accordingly with regard to treating to getting them off your body. Don't forget that little head doesn't want to let go. Fire is your friend. They don't like it when they get burned and they can't have enough luck. And usually they kind of just fall off. So that's one solution. The other is, of course, grab them by the head and pull their little mandibles back out and tear their body apart. Squash them and crush them and then burn them. Either way, you're going to burn them. Today's date, it is Friday. It is the 26th of June, 7th year of open Fabian Socialist and Soviet Socialist Occupation of America with the K2015 Old Earth Calendar or 2015 Year of Battle! It has begun! Mortal Kombat. Mortal Kombat. That's a while back. For all of us, it is Mortal Kombat. Congratulations. The bad guys want to whip it up? Well, we're going to beat them down. No matter when, but you're going to have to get very motivated. A couple things here. As far as supply goes with parts, pieces, and assemblies, I've been kind of perusing the different companies, looking for certain things we were looking for, lifeboat rations. Now, Price, I seem to have found On the Lifeboat Ration Cubes, I think we got BC listing there, is Major Surplus. Now they have two different packs, but the one is the lower calorie, smaller cubes, and it's actually $2 more than the larger package with the standard 9 cubes. So just a heads up, I definitely picked some of those up because they're one of those standards for our food, some reserves, but also for backpack. It's a way to throw a lot more calories and stuff to fill you up into the system beyond just lurps or MREs or whatever else you might be carrying. So that's the reason I do what we do there. And I'm looking to see, but I don't see any vast improvements here. We're hoping that we run into a couple of air 15 mags sales this weekend, but that just isn't happening. So, I'm going to do one more thing here because I understand there was a bit of a rush and this has been cascading now. Amoman.com, it's not the only company out there. There's a lot of other people that have ammunition, a lot of other people that have resources and are picking up what they can. There's plenty of other FFLs and a lot of other people that sell gun, you know, components and ammunition. But the companies I'm looking at pretty well are, you know, for different parts of the United States. kind of reflect where they're going with the ammunition inventory in general. What we're seeing depleted, what we're seeing still stable for the moment. Now, 7.62x39 has been on the low swing for quite some time. We're hoping that there'll be kind of like some big bruhaha or yeehaw, all of a sudden the pile of stuff has come in, but that really hasn't been the case. There have been little sugar burps. There's some tool ammo at amomad.com, $122 grain, $245 shipped. All this is shipped. They have some 123 grain brown bear. Now this is not to be confused with huggie bear, gummy bear, brown bear, black bear, curly bear, red bear, circular bear, etc. etc. And gummy bear being probably the least desirable. The gummy bear ammunition, I just don't know what to say about it. Anyway, 760 by 39 brown bear, 123 grain hollow point, 500 rounds, $144. They've got it on sale for a little bit of price knocked off. Still the ball ammunition seems to be the best way, but just to give you an idea how low they are, the only two ball camels they have are those two. And of that, the ball ammo would be my first choice at $245 per thousand rounds. Now that doesn't mean that the other direction you might not have to go you probably will if they run out of the ball ammo But all they are offering in 7.62 by 39 are 20 round boxes of stuff and of that It's WPA performance and Tula 7.62 by 39 20 round boxes and the 20 round boxes are $9 apiece. Excuse me. Whoa. Wait a minute. Why would that? Does that even sound right? Well anyway, they also have Federal, which is Boxer Prime non-corrosive, 7.62x39 Soviet, 124 grain full metal jacket, and $23.50 a box. Now this is Amaleman.com, which has been kind of a bulk or slash jobber company for a while. Now they have been running into a lot of 7.62x51 NATO. How much they have left again, they've had a real run here in the last couple of days. But they do have a good selection as far as Hollow Point, Nosler, Ballistic, Silver State Armory, oh $34 for a box of 20. Ooh, okay. Yep, you're looking at some, you know, a little more specialized. Silly billet, and again, a lot of this stuff is in 20 round boxes. They're not offering in crates or cases. They're offering individual 20 round boxes. I'm trying to find a bulk. Okay, here we go. We finally got some bulk on these, upper part of the scroll. and they've got some flinch chest flinch chest or 240 rounds for $214 so there are maybe one well there's some Aguiila but again they're selling it by the single $17 $17 a box okay well apparently because also people are you know tight on money or whatever so it's a matter of how much can you afford a Hornady steel match for $45 a box but that is a 50 round box that's the only cool thing about that so it's kind of unique A Flinchchester NATO Winchester ammo 147 grains FMJ 120 rounds $122 and that's its own plastic Winchester ammo can. It's a plastic you know knockoff is what it is. So in 308 it's a mix and 223 because ammo man is pretty well representative of where the rest of the system has been going or has already gone to. A couple of standard military loads, more than a few. A lot of 20 round box prices and then only in the case slot for PMC and a few others do we see a bulk or a good bulk price. In fact, they also have some federal for 215 for 500 rounds as opposed to PMC-MO 556, PMC-X-TAC green tip. 1000 rounds for $420. So there you go. And there's a lot of other stuff covered. I don't know if they have the 10 millimeter back in stock. Hold on here, I'm going to look here real quick. It is interesting that the 44 Winchester's back up in inventory. There are a few of the other orphan cartridges in there. So if you're looking for odds and stuff, as I've said, UNAML and some moman.com, moman.com, moman.com. And hopefully we've got Ed there. I'll tell you what, Ed, we're going to do a bottom of the hour break. I'm going to try and step away and check something, see if I can find the information real quick here. But we do have a couple of our loading ideas that we've been working on. The 50 caliber powder does work with the larger bore calibers, but mostly with the 308. Forgive me, 30 out of 6, the 308 rounds. Like I said, up and down, performance wise and issue wise. Yeah, I'm looking here, I don't see anything, nothing that's really screaming at me right now, guys. All of it, you know, they're medium prices, they do have some, like I said, PMC in federal. Also some battle packs, $92 for a two and a round battle pack of PMC. in the tan desert. It's obviously a little fresher, not new, doesn't have to be too fresh because we've been using tan for 30 years now guys, so it'll vary there. But if we're looking for, well, so some NATO preview partisan, 193 grain pack, 55 grain, 200 rounds, $98. There we go. Now that might be interesting. Again, a lot of 20 round boxes. You got to pay attention, go through it, see what works, what would float your boat, what wouldn't, and then act accordingly. Anyway, other things here, that's ammo man dot com, ammo man dot com. Also we have been through the scroll, same stuff typically as there, but they run out and restock, and that is UN ammo dot com. Now, other sources, Palmetto State Armory has got a mix of stuff, everybody pretty much because they realize that they're short as expected. If they have a bulk or a quantity of something that's extraneous, not part of their They might offer you a pretty good price for this stuff. We've seen that for a few items in months by gone, but as these not normally available components disappear or systems disappear, they're orphaned and gone. They'll list them and of course that does tie people up first with wishful thinking. A lot of the unique stuff, which is in the 20 round boxes I was talking about here, this is not going to last. This is just, you know, as soon as it's gone, the reason they're offering in 20 round boxes, certainly because it is more affordable, a lot of people can't afford a whole case, but they're breaking it down and they're not offering that in a 20, like 20, 20 round boxes of ammo for how much? If they're in good shape, but if they're running normal, those boxes, you know, that they were using to shoot out of wouldn't be left behind, number one. They wouldn't be running out the way that we're seeing. We'd actually have a pretty good supply train in place, still performing its mission. You'd be able to get out of the range, do what you need to do. Guys, heads up on this because I don't want to hear about anybody getting caught flat-footed on particular calibers. And we're not sharing, per se, anymore. I mean, when the time comes, if you're nearby, you'll be getting some of what we've got. One of the things that we haven't done for a long time is giving out ammunition to other people unless it's a designate thing. When it comes to shortages, some things we just know how many rounds we're going to need for the unique weapons. That's why we already earmarked a particular amount for the weapons. is kind of like community ammunition when it comes to being able to issue it out later. So everybody that collects it now is building up our tactical reserves for the war, just like pre-1775. Lexington and Concord. Lexington were arming themselves. But Concord was building field pieces for all of the colonies, for anybody who was willing to pay the money to get the brass, you know, organized or iron, and cast a decent field piece. They were doing, in fact, they were doing two pounders, four pounders, six pounders before the war, and even eights, and many big stuff that was hand-bored. They said, guys sit right here in Michigan, and, or in Ohio, or in Pennsylvania. And by the way, yes, they were still active in Michigan. It was just a lot ruggeder then, more so than it was Indian territories. But forges and foundries were dotted all over the place. and they would build up and after they cast and cast steel component and then work around it with the grace of having their own smelt so to speak and armoring up whatever they had to, you know, with a way of transport to go from point A to point B. It should be pointed out with regard to a lot of the ammunition that we're acquiring that as I've said ball ammunition but if you're to the point where a certain caliber All you're going to be able to get is soft point and hollow point. I would go soft point first, hollow point second. And I bring this up for a reason because what I was just saying about armoring stuff up. That hollow point round is more likely to open up and lose its energy with heavier armor if there's laminate. With shallow sheet metal, hollow points do some interesting things there. I would point out to include cutting out the metal and filling the hollow point tip to the point where it doesn't expand. I've seen this with actual wounds and bullets recovered where hollow points were modified this way and modified that way, etc. In reality, they grossly over-modified it to the point where the round performed more like a cookie cutter. It didn't necessarily blast a channel through the material. It would work as a cookie cutter. And if, you know, it was two, three, five rounds fired and you're in the impact area beyond the target, it's very likely that it was going to get you, even though it was a hollow point. Because that cookie cutter effect gets it through the tissue, the bone, the ligament, whatever, to the individual who was standing there. Or who is the, again, it wasn't the intentional target, but it will get through from one soft, chewy spot to the next. Why? Well, because of a combination of different types of armor or laminate armor that's used or it could be, again, sheet metal from cars. Any number of different things can compromise the ability of that hollow point to expand anyway. And with people, all it does is sometimes just the amount of energy, how the thing was shot, you know, how far, what the distance was. I've seen it where the round hollow point has gone right through boots, meat, past a bone, out the other side, threw more meat and threw more sheet metal, but not in the old lead. And then forgive me, tin, or boot, tin, and then pour sheet metal again and leave, able to easily recover the bullet because we had to figure out the trail or the trajectory of the bullet in the situation. But what's fascinating is not what it did penetration-wise, it's what it didn't do expansion-wise. So this is something to remember. Some of these big cart-mouthed rounds, certainly they're buzz saw, outer bodies, all kinds of stuff they're doing. And if you have to spend money for those, a lot of you aren't going to be able to afford that. Just because it's a hollow point, don't be surprised or shocked and amazed at what leather, what sheet metal, what even heavy clothing can do to kind of fill in the void and turn that expensive round right back around into a ball round for you. Ooh, that's not a happy thought. Well, it's just the way the world works. Anyway, we're at the bottom of the hour. I don't know if we have Ed there. We were planning on taking a bottom of the hour break. I can step away and grab something real quick here. And hopefully Ed's right there. Yeah, it happens. We have to keep going. So, next, with regard to, again, penetration, armor, ballistic potential, Remember guys a lot of people are wearing soft armor. This is why I talk about placing the bullet farther down into the you know again the groin and hip area The people will probably at that point still be wearing lower body armor wherever they can find it Not everybody can afford it and not everybody has it but yeah, it is a good idea But still if you continue to work with high-powered rifle into the hip and upper leg area Not a whole lot that the system is going to do to stop that bullet from following the path of least resistance See that's the whole idea. So remember work as a team. If you're going to be version shooting with a new rifle that literally you don't have any familiarity with, you're going to have to reduce your ranges. Remember to keep that into consideration with new shooters. but you need to get them up to snuff as quickly as possible. And I would point out with regard to training to use these weapons, don't use just the typical training environment. Angle some of your shots if you have a public range that you've built, you know, a private range, but you know, a public area for everybody to use. Angle into foliage and brush. Now remember you make sure your impact areas are improved accordingly, but you want to create disruption, which is more realistic with the say, well, the zombie scenario. So you always see the zombie walking towards the character, the star, and you know, he's going away, or she's going away, and like the one he thought was a little girl, then it turns out little girl's actually a zombie. Remember that placing shots better to hit than to be cracking stuff over targets like that. They're heads. Look at the enemy the same way. Better to hit. In other words, better that you're low and off to a degree because of how you place the rounds as opposed to trying for an official quote-unquote headshot where you just don't make it because that basketball's bebopping around too much. Needless to say in zombie movies, you got to hit them in the head. you can hit them in the other head too and it probably is going to slow down a lot. So again placement, placement is everything. Heavy rifle, up above, yeah you can turn something into a canoe but you've got to be good at it, you've got to be consistent. It gets back to training, training, training. So I'm going to remind everybody airsoft. We've talked about airsoft for years. It's one of those things where it's readily available Again your socks your boots and your shoes the your career usually is helping out there trying to you know Keep you on the keep you in motion Because of the because of the allocation of material resources remember guys uh... in world and you know game slow you know that's one of the things that has been a real problem of the watching some of the new shooters and we've had to correct accordingly it doesn't make long apart of that thirty round magazine uh... i'd rather you had a moment in the ankle of the sock because they're not a zombie okay um... probably the best example is again with four other weapons here something i've really touched on If you start capturing full-auto weapons and you think you're going to be using them right away, first of all, hopefully you're not going to be just handing them over to inexperienced new shooters because, well, there's a whole different school and rifle time in the field is especially critical to keeping things, you know, keeping things copacetic. You've already got time, so to speak, behind the stick. Now you're just going to add a different feature which means you're going to have to maintain control of the weapon. An old trick that was taught to a lot of guys with M2 carbines is actually not just aim for the groin, but typically aim for the foot. Now that sounds weird, but every instance that we had with M2 and M3 carbines that the cops had here in Michigan that we can recollect and did a pretty good job of recording, where they had bank robberies and things like that. aiming for the foot put pretty much all of the rounds into the target from a 15 round mag with a fully automatic weapon. The weapons typically ride enough, the person doesn't shoot enough. If they were shooting more, you would be able to maintain a tighter group. But you also wouldn't necessarily be dumping an entire magazine onto one target. See, there are disadvantages of that. Yeah, you peppered and saturated, and maybe everybody fired on the guy all at once. We have talked about doing that, but remember if it's just you and the counterpart there you're trying to take down, if you got a footshot, as we, you know, they've kind of done this in movies and you have to about it, but if you got a footshot, take it. If you can see the socks, but you know it's probably attached, and you can guesstimate ankle and approach, take the shot. We want to start knocking more of them down as quickly as we possibly can. Again, the bad guys in the last couple of operations that we've seen, they're terrified of the idea of actually getting hit anywhere. So you're making the choice that you're going to, again, take whatever shot you have but engage with the greatest accuracy possible. Slow and accurate, guys. Now we're not talking slow to the point of slow motion, and again, as you become more proficient with your weapons, contact and engagement is going to become more reliable. You'll be a quicker... First you're a student, then you become a fast student. Then progressively you're working into developing personal points with regard to your skills, and you can change some methods of how you use the different stances or the different ways of carrying the weapon into combat and for use. So that's where the change is going to take place, but it's experience. You have to build up and accumulate experience. I need a machine gun! Why? Have you ever used one before? Well, no! Okay, well, I'll tell you what, let's focus on accuracy. We got the basics into you. We're trying to work you now up to the point where you have to be both a mover and a shooter. If you do not move, you will not probably survive because the other side has all kinds of stuff they can lob in and mop at you. Again, eventually that will be yours because your objective is to destroy this army group, period, or destroy that battle group, or destroy that team, or whatever. As you've gained experience, you're going to find that you're much more efficient. You realize, too, that changing mags is not your first ambition. So you husband your engagements. You husband the ammunition you're spending on an engagement. There are only a few situations where like what we would call panic auto fire could possibly be used, where it would be useful. Certainly for diversion, that worked, but that's about it. Again, focus and understand, develop skill by doing what other people are doing or following and watching what other people are doing. Go to YouTube. Select fire should be with a 3-5 round burst pulse. No matter what cyclic rate you have, you get good at being able to feel that. You're actually mentally counting it subconsciously, but you don't realize it. Needless to say, the government's put spies on in situations to observe what you're doing, how you're developing skills to report back. That's something that's been done. So again, treat all of your operations as opposite operations when it comes to bring the people up to speed and you know again do it in smaller formations initially and that way you know who's who in the zoo. Also remember as we've said with regard to training, somebody talking about using an automatic weapon or using a short barrel shotgun out of sight remind them that we're not really interested in that kind of attention. I know all about the well we should be standing up guys we're going to be standing up and fighting them tooth and nail. But the three things that they typically use to go after our people, either at ranges, at home, traveling, is short barrel weapons. It's a machine gun! Which, of course, they can even do that anyway. If you've got a somatic rifle, I watch the Batbagots walk right up. They do it to try and get you on the defensive. I say you've got an Oozy fully automatic machine gun in the glass here. Yeah, yeah, right next to my Browning BAR and the M250 caliber there, they're all select fire, don't you know? Yeah, uh-huh. Well, they know that the weapon is not full auto, but they do this as part of the, you know, to strike terror or fear into you, get you into the defensive so you're apologizing for existing. Just like the garbage you're seeing nationally right now. So, no matter what, be it shooting for their socks or shooting for the, you know, the, well, I can't use that. Sorry about that. Shooting for their socks or shooting for their groin, okay. Whichever way you look at it, any hit in that area puts a person into immobile. Now you may have to do then a follow-up shot to, you know, again, terminate the target because the idea there is that you got them down, keep them down. Kind of like they said when they were soldiers. If you keep doing that, eventually they run out of soldiers to send at you. And how, you know, what are we going to stop? When will this end when they stop sending soldiers? So accuracy over volume fire, take it slow and then build up speed. One of the things to remember is you may think that it's slow, but in reality there's a kind of a time dilation factor that takes place, especially with the adrenaline rush and it's intentional. So to a degree, you are wishing or supposing that somehow the time is a skew. And in reality, it's a perception because of the fight or fight response. This actually affects a lot of people with regard to why they go, man, I had to pull the trigger, I had to dump those rounds, and all of a sudden I just like I ran out. You know, the words you ran on ammo. Well, yeah, I need to change mags. I'm really short, well, see, that's part of the problem. There's an interesting subconscious process going on with regard to shooters, operators, anybody with weapon systems, operating a belt-fed gun, operating a, even a sub-automatic weapon. I've had dozens of people who said the same thing. I didn't expect it to get empty, go empty that fast. What happened? Well, you fired 30 rounds. No, I couldn't have fired 30 rounds. Yes, you fired 30 rounds and it's time to change magazines. Let's not debate this right now. Oh, oh yeah, that's right. But people were, people in many cases are shocked, especially under stress, but under any condition where they have background noise and not used to the idea that they have to live with that. So they get frustrated with that too. I always loved that one. It's like, well, you better get unfrustrated because a lot of what you're going to experience, you're not really going to have any control over. Uh, I would point out that if you're in a team and you got, if everybody kind of bunched up, if you're not paying attention to the spacing, cause oh, stupid old Mark doesn't know what he's talking about. And you start firing stuff up, it's amazing how people start not to be able to hear very well. Because that eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee It's another reason that there's a debate about do you wear, you know, well if you get wall fears or something like that I understand, but do you wear earplugs in the field in the combat situation? I know a lot of guys who have. Now some people don't like that because they, in theory, whatever hearing they have for, you know, whatever time that's not interrupted, that hearing is part of a major element in their defense screen, their final defense personal area screen. Now, I've seen this because some people are going to waddle off the side because to them they're not combatants, so they go up under the tent and they disappear for a while. But individuals that participate or are functional in an operational unit like this, they need to stay the course, they need to stay on track, they need to stay focused. When it comes to repetition and training, something we've talked about. Don't change a person up. Don't change out their processes. That aiming for the socks thing. In other words, if you put a person on track, unless it's a different weapon system and has a different mission, what you need to do first is have a standardized process before you put the person on the gun. That way when they get on the range, when they're in place, they're going to continue to repeat, repeat, repeat, perform. And this is especially critical because of the fact that with select fire comes the situation where you may actually be needful of putting more rounds into play. Well, now you're going to start building that speed issue up again. You're going to use discipline to regulate it and to help them relate to and understand the time dilation factors that take place with adrenaline rush, panic factor issues because of the aggressor contact and action. In other words, they're scared, well, excuse me. Very scared. There we go. I can't add the other component that most everybody is typically familiar with. Fear factor, noise factor, all of these are tied in. One reinforces the other. Remember we said about punishing us, you know, like making a mistake and like doing something intentionally to a student when they're young? You know, you're going to be fighting some of that and those issues that might have been created because somebody thought it would be funny to give someone a grossly overpowered weapon without proper instruction. So the person gets hurt and then you're having to fight that person to wonder why they just don't stay on the mark or they don't stay focused or why they've got a twitch or why whatever. So I would heads up that right now in the training process, The important thing is for you as an instructor or a teacher to stay on the man, stay on the person, but not ride them like a monkey. In other words, use quiet, common sense language to correct the person. Okay, pay attention to your muzzle. Okay, you're at the three o'clock mark. You really want to adjust your sight. Adjust your sight. Take away your sight picture. You're right. Yeah, okay, well now we've got that squared away. Remember your stance. Watch your spacing, pay attention to your environment, and go ahead. And then of course the target is engaged. Now this is with semi-auto ore, bolt action, or with select fire. But with select fire, the other thing you need to remember is, although we have all the basics down, first rule, even if you've never fired an automatic weapon, lean forward, lean into it a little bit, put some of your body weight behind to affect control. This is a real issue. Let me give you an example. Go to YouTube and punch in women firing rifles. I'm not trying to pick on you girls that are talking because also young people are in the same boat. A lot of people will put their feet close together or they'll actually stand like they're standing in attention. And then try to bring the weapon forward because the weapon may already be a little oversized. They have a tendency to stand relatively straight or even already lean back into the rear. First rule, again, feet shoulder width apart, normal box is a good choice. In other words, one leg forward or the other, preferably the positive or what is the hard leg that goes along with the dominant hand and your dominant eye. The idea behind this is that when you reverse the process you're going to be crab walking. You're never going to cross your legs when you're moving if you're going to be doing a moving action. With automatic fire you lean forward and into the gun a little bit. Now you've got to pay attention and work with your student because you don't want to be leaning so far ahead that they're front heavy. They start to fall forward. There's a balance there. It's like any other aspect. Each element of what you're doing with a firearm for combat shooting, you should be thinking about it the same way most people can relate to now martial arts. Remember, balance is everything. But you do allow for a little forward positive, in other words, beyond your normal position if you're firing select, because you're going to fire in three to five round bursts, the weapon is literally going to stand you back up if you're not careful. If your foot spacing is not correct, if your weight and counterweight is not deployed properly, in other words you've set your body upon yourself, you're going to have a very difficult time keeping that weapon on target or maintaining control over it. So the first rule is bring your whole body together on the gun, move forward with the upper part of your body, lean forward and into the objective, but it has to still be balanced so that you're able to step forward or step back as needed. And when we say step, another thing I would point out, now a lot of people are teaching cross stepping and that may work for speed, it's kind of like a speed step. Remember to never cross your legs one over the other as if you were walking when you are shooting. The crab walk, which will actually allow you to be able to stay focused on the objective without changing your eyes from the target, allows for your foot to actually do a certain amount of feel for obstacle as you're moving ahead and firing or being prepared to fire. Now the advantage of this is that you're constantly in prepared contact mode. You're ready to drop around in. Now by the way, if you don't have select fire, and I'm pointing out that this is a captured weapon we're using, we're trying to teach somebody how to use a captured arm. You already have experience on an AR-15, you might have selected, semi-auto, an M1 carbine, M1 Garand, M14, AK-47, AK-74, take your pick. In all of these cases you've already gained a great deal of working knowledge and you have a lot of muscle memory. All you have to do is add a small amount to the formula and you will find that it will change perceptively, right from the get go, your full auto capability with regard to keeping the muscle on target, keeping the bullet into the target area. The miss issue again is a real problem. People have a tendency to watch movies, they flip the switch over to full auto on the captured weapon, and they just blaze and go to town. Now, whether or not they're even close to what they were supposed to be aiming for or shooting at, who knows. But I guarantee the guy in the other end who might have in the pit heard a lot of crack, crack, crack, crack, crack, crack, crack, it was a little higher than usual. Select Fire is not a first best choice. uh... even for conventional forces uh... the biggest issue for unconventional forces is choosing people who have the ability to maintain discipline the reason i say this is because again a lot of people of the matter how hard you try when you get back to range fire they try to go select fire we have the same issues repeated over and over again and I've watched this time and time. As a training NCO, training officer, as an OPP4 commander, as an individual just to experience in the military working with other people. I have watched this time and again. So one of the most important things is to really drive home the discipline that has to be first built within the mind. before even touch the weapon, before even moving forward to using the weapon. And almost all the other actions or any of the actions that we're talking about can be simulated with Airsoft. And in fact should be at this point in time. That is one of the ways that you can get a better feel. You're not going to get the recoil, but you will have repeat fire performance and again, those little toy soldiers should be knocking down if you do everything right. You know, those dollar store toy soldiers you bought for your targets, there you go. Not much money, not real expensive, but if you don't stay sights on target and go perform the way you're supposed to, you're probably not going to hit what you're aiming at. And that means that, again, Airsoft is priceless in that respect because it gives positive feedback. With the Select Fire weapons with Airsoft, the only thing I would say, and I'll remind everybody about it, is that they do have unlimited magazine capacity. That's kind of sad. So again, the old aiming for the socks thing. Well, yeah, I can blow the socks off and take them right to the nose. That's not real. Okay. Your gun does not, it's not going to have a 300-round magazine capacity. So I would recommend when you're doing airsoft that you, again, load the magazines accordingly to match the performance of your standard arm. That way the person is limited. They get used to the idea that they're going to be limited. Another thing too with regard to the marksmanship performance with select fire weapons. There's nothing I would point out that every man I've ever dealt with that has been in a conflict is some people gravitate towards certain weapons. other people should not be allowed to gravitate towards certain weapons. I want that real bad! Well, the problem is that they burn ammunition up, but there's no final performance end result that's positive. They are burning a lot of ammunition though, and if they're willing to get out there and stay in the fight, you know, that is half the battle, I guess. But it's just the idea that, you know, you have to also get everybody to rotate, to experiment with, and find out more about other arms. At this point in time, we can tailor the weapon to the individual. Now, that's an issue that we've talked about many, many times, but with select fire weapons also, I'll remind you that some of the guns you're going to be capturing way up to and are still expected to be fired from the shoulder, mostly with a pin-and-mount or a bipod or whatever, but you're looking anywhere from 21 and a half to 29 pounds for a gun. and that in itself, remember we're talking with a belt of ammunition already laid to the gun, so you typically a little extra, you know, bandolier slash belt carrier that is designed to extend the capacity of the gun. Remember that With belt fed weapons, that's what we call a crew serve system. You're going to have your best with an assistant. And if you are going to be looking at 19, 20, 21, 25, 27 pounds, go out and try doing that or carrying that. Well, Mark, I handle dog food every day, so do I. But there's another thing when that chunk of metal is at the end of your fingers and it's pulling on your arms every minute. So again, so If you collect accordingly, it doesn't mean the belt-fed guns and crucified weapons aren't going to be in the team, but if you're a little older and you go, I always wanted that particular fill in the blank, you might want to go through the shopping bin there, so to speak, on the rest of the black-clad uniform knuckle-directors that you've finished off and find something that might be a little more apropos to your build. It doesn't mean we're not going to take it out, but you find one of those spring chickens, perhaps deal with those weapons that are in the unique weight range. It's just an idea. Even when we're talking about using the 50s, I've talked about assist with carrying or, again, trading off team members so that the ammunition is carried by one person, the weapon is carried by another, and then you shift back. In other words, it's still heavy, but one person's burden is not as great as the other. And that allows for a limited amount of rest. And rest, critical with firearms. Go ahead, call her, jump in there. Personally, I've always wanted that BFG-9000. You're not familiar with the BFG 9000, are you? Okay, I would assume it's one of the Wundertoys. There's several that I've seen recently here that they fire a billion rounds a minute. See, look like a box. Are some of the new zip guns that are out there in .50 caliber, etc. So go ahead, please. Mark. That's why I said why. Is that like a BFG? The BFG 9000 is fictional. It was in a game. Oh, well, see, I can't be everywhere. So that's like ask me the joy stretcher or hand me that piano. Just go ahead and ruin my joke. Well you see that's the problem. It's like you may be surprised guys remember they make copies of and even functional copies of the Colonial Marine rifle from Aliens. uh... there's guys that go out of their way to make simulated arms using conventional arms to a pretty much a lot of the uh... video and and i'm games are out there uh... you'd be amazed at how many are actually built hell even the armor and such to know it's not armor but it's you know it's designed to walk and it looks pretty darn good i'm i'm impressed with some of the work some of these kids do and they did a take a great deal of effort and their functional weapons in many cases So yes, they may not have the ability to send out a pulse beam to knock out a 70 ton tank, but it's amazing they actually function and do what they're supposed to do. And they do look kinda cool. Hey Mark. Yeah, go ahead, go ahead. Hey, I think you ought to cover the fact that even though you may deliver a wound, if it's not a kill shot, you still have a very dangerous enemy. in front of you. Absolutely. Well, you're hoping that again, that's what I'm saying, the IDV, I'm going into the groin area, defeating the body armor, and also dealing with the fact that we're going into an area where we're going to bleed the target out. You know, the real world as opposed to chicken legs and the Boston bombing. You know what I mean? Because if you hit somebody there, and again, it's not fiction, but it is a book. read Black Hawk Down because one of the things that was really incorporated well into that were the medics and what they had to do and what it is is the way they wrote that book as opposed to the way they presented it in the movie, the book was written by all the men getting together and from their perspectives incorporating themselves into the story to write it. And so the medic is describing how you know he actually has to start ripping the guy's leg apart Because the bullets you know that hit the leg one of them of course had tagged the artery and the arteries spinked it up into the leg and were enrolled right as he kept trying to grab it and he's making horrible pain for the casualty but he's trying to grab that piece of linguine and it goes right up into the groin. Yep. My personal experience with the time dilation that's for real. You can send, I was in an engagement. The number four came to mind. The guy had to drop on me. He had his weapon out, the hammer back. Mine was still in the leather. That's what I sent down range. Well, he was like, and he emptied his weapon. I emptied mine. Of course, I never left target. That all took maybe 1.5 seconds looking back on it. So, that's been my experience. But as far as operating the weapon, a lot of the people that, you know, we've talked about this over and over again, remember the first mag, then they remember the last mag, but they don't remember any of the magazines changed in between. In fact, it's hard pressed when you debrief a person. Typically when we would, what's the way I was taught to operate, we would not break down the units or send the units back to wherever they had to go or the people, release the people until we did a complete operational, you know, step-by-step unit breakdown of activity. And one of the things you'll find, guys, is people will tell you, even when you're breaking it down, you're going, okay, Bill, you did this. Randy, then you did. And then he describes the action. What we're doing is an after-action overview so that everybody understands how well the performance went, so to speak. In other words, everybody danced their part. Everybody kept their timing up, everybody did what they were supposed to do. To a degree, it just seemed like it went faster than expected, but man, it took forever. In other words, there's that twist. and it's something that people can't relate to until you've seen it, well actually experienced and watched it happen. Yeah, you don't know what the baptism by the white fire is until you see it, too. Yeah, and it's really interesting because I know people that are cool as a cucumber, it's just pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop and they have to overcome, but typically again they have to overcome certain resistance by the body and the training kicks in. Again, follow through on. This is what I knew, Mark. I knew as soon as that dude drew a weapon on me and cocked a hammer back, I knew that I was going to get hit or be dead. And he set it in stone. I knew all I could do was draw my weapon, stay on target, and deliver my message. And I lived. He killed a friend of mine in that exchange. They weren't playing. There were two of them. And after I dispatched that dude, I switched out my magazines and went after those two. But I've never seen somebody run so fast in my life that got away. Isn't it amazing how people can clear 10-foot obstacles too? And I've watched that personally. It's like, that's a 10-foot cyclone fence and they only hit the ground once. And I would equate this, you know, kind of like what we're seeing in our government right now because the dude came up to me and my buddy Jimmy Armstrong. You know, he was an Air Force veteran. He's a good guy. This happened 30 years ago, I'd say. We're both in our 20s. But anyway, This guy came up to us and he he was the shill he was a come-on man would have come online, you know Just enough to distract us and his buddy with the piece slipped in behind him. Oh through down on us You know, I cleared my fill worse