March 30, 2015
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1h 1m
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Mark Koernke discussed preparedness tactics including crossbow design, armor penetration, and ceramic materials for defensive purposes. He covered military deployments to the Southwest, specifically Jade Helm exercises and unscheduled National Guard movements to Arizona, New Mexico, and Nevada. Callers contributed technical expertise on weapon modifications, body armor vulnerabilities, and hunting applications. Koernke also mentioned F-15 deployments to Europe, economic concerns, and an NSA incident involving strippers.
- jade helm
- national guard
- crossbow
- body armor
- ceramic armor
- southwest deployment
- preparedness
- blm
- f-15
- arizona
- nevada
- new mexico
- weapon design
- kevlar
- military exercise
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That'll be the 31st. End of the month. We waited until this week. Yeah, I know it's not Friday. It's the end of the month drawing. And the end of the month hits on a Tuesday. So what else is going on out there? Well, US National Guard sends 12 F-15 interceptor jets to Europe to guard against Russia. Well, they fly them back and forth all the time. So as much as the chicken hawk waving, of course, with a ooh, ooh, ooh crowd, the ones who are never going to be anywhere near the front. Or had no intentions of fighting. They intend on sending you or me or somebody like us out there to fight. But the F-15s, of course, will be part of a general deployment F-15Cs, which I think is rather interesting because I've got to remember, we're way past the sea model and have been for quite some time. So these are guard units, should be very well maintained aircraft, and this gives them a chance to spread their wings a little bit, get overseas and maybe be the first casualties in the beginning of World War III if the Shysters and the Filth that are manipulating Washington have their way. Now, another story. Apparently, in a party joke gone bad, two quadriplegic homosexual Eskimo strippers were called to the NSA sometime this morning. They were told to bring drug paraphernalia, whips, writing crops, and handcuffs. Unfortunately, when they got to the gates of the NSA, both of the male strippers in female wigs realized that they had actually gotten into the wrong situation as a horrible horrible prank tried to get away from the situation once they were near the main gate and screaming while in high heels wearing their female wigs uh... and with the drug paraphernalia falling all over the place out of the backseat pouring out of the backseat apparently is for an essay party gone awry uh... they shot one of the uh... you know him shim hits and the other one of course is you know in the hospital now The sad, sad part is that while we know these things do go on all the time, and after all we do have the scandal here most recently guys, well, I mean, what's the surprise? It's the Obama administration, but Bush wasn't any better. You might recall that we have the drunken prostitute sex slash drug parties being given to DEA personnel and well everybody's talking about it and everybody else of course in the US government side is going oh well no it was nothing like what you think I mean it was well it was but it wasn't well okay but they were really nice girls actually once doped up how can we be sure those were girls It's kind of like the NSA ordering the two homosexual strippers and then getting pissed because the only thing you can do about it once they get caught is for the NSA to mow them down and destroy the evidence, so to speak. So, yeah, the NSA has got some explaining to do, but I think they'll shovel it under the table like they did Abu Ghraib and everything else. So, this should be very interesting. So anyway, got the two homosexual strippers with the wigs trying to get through the gate. Actually, they didn't really try to get through the gate. They were trying to go somewhere else. I think they were really trying to get away and turn around realizing this was a sick and horrible, horrible joke gone awry. Now with regard to the strippers and the stripper sex parties going on with the DEA, why would you be surprised? I mean, what business are they in? What do they do? What are the handling? Where did it come from? And it turns out the cartels were of course buying this excitement and energetic activity for the federal agents. Well, yeah, just not a surprise. It's just business as usual. Business as usual, Frank. Business as usual. So beyond that, what else going on? Well, there are a few other things actually from the Trancers' War Report. It's got some pretty good little scrolls in here right now that I highly recommend. One of them, of course, has to do with the blackout intrigue compound bow, gives smaller frame bow hunters performance that fits. Now there's another neat thing you can do with these. If this is a smaller configured Compound Bow, guys, if you run into these and they're used, or even if you run into older children's compound bows, and people go, well, it's just not long enough for the kind of work I want to do. Guys, start rethinking into Mega Crossbow. Dude, or like actually Compound Bow Arbalisk. Oh wow, yeah, and don't worry about using the standard arrow. Start thinking about either an aluminum, solid rod aluminum, or solid rod steel dart slash bolt. And yeah, you could really go to town with something like that. Just think about what you could do to make up a stock or a pintle mount for car harpooning. Now it's not as big as a full-size Arbalisk, in fact it's quite a bit smaller. But you can make some really neat tools up with some of the stuff that's off the shelf and readily available. You just got to start thinking about being creative. And what you do is take from one other part of the industry and roll it over in the other direction. I know you can buy compound crossbows. Trust me, we have quite a few of them. But when you have a bigger unit to work with like this, oh, there's a lot of fun that can be had. So just something to think about. Trying to plant seeds before things get really exciting. Yep, harpooning people at a distance with a compound fill-in-the-blank crossbow slash conventional bow. is always fun to be done if you do it right and switch out the way that you configure the warhead so to speak a solid metal hyper point dart that way it goes through the body armor quite nicely and kind of shish kebabs and harpoons the target into the clamshell who that's kind of embarrassing yeah Think about it, it makes me feel good. When I say hyperpoint, we're talking about tapered to an extreme. It's only probably going to be good for one shot. You might recover it, but you'll end up having to straighten and you'll end up having to also re-grind or re-mill. So, I'm forgetting, you have to throw it back in the lathe and reconfigure appropriately. But, the one nice thing about crossbow bolts or bow bolts is that they can be recovered. So, if all fails, second shot will be out there into a mass where dropping it in the middle of somebody, okay, doesn't have to be totally accurate because if it pins them anywhere and staples them anywhere, that's fine. You don't care. You really, really don't. So check that article out because also a lot of people do have smaller individuals in the group that you may want to outfit accordingly with something that fits the person and the smaller bows kind of fit that niche depending on the size and stature of the, for instance, young lady out there. Now, go ahead, caller, who do we have? We got you. Anything in regard to ceramic or cutting surface? You mean to use for instance a deflected layer with a Hermer? Or are you talking about using it to perfectly? I would use a boundary layer, yes. Boundry. Always measuring at the boundary layer. One of the things that was done years ago was... Go ahead. Go ahead. One of the things that was done years ago with ceramic in armor is the first of the body armors that was quite lightweight and where it was used is an aircraft. If you look at B-17 crews and B-24 crews, a lot of the guys had the flak jackets already. Well, they did by at least the beginning and middle of the war. What's interesting is a lot of that was ceramic armor to compensate and make the system lighter. Steel armor goes back to World War I. Well, in between there, where they got the idea for ceramic was experimentations that were done in World War I with laminate armor. In fact, there was a lot of work done beforehand because of the development of high-powered rifle cartridges. Now, from the defense end, the thing about using ceramic would be to put the ceramic on the outside of a soft, again, like we've said, hard layer internal panel of steel, a soft layer of Kevlar, whatever pattern you got, whatever you got, say at level two, level three. and then the ceramic armor on the outside. Now the ceramic armor is still padded and encapsulated, and the reason for that is that if it spalds in any way, you at least don't have secondary fragmentation to worry about going laterally along the surface of the armor. But laminate armor like that pretty much will stop anything coming in. Maybe not 50 caliber, though it'll come close, but I mean, the energy is still delivered to the target. You're still flooded with something. I mean, the energy's got to go somewhere. That's the thing that people make the mistake about. Although with solid panels, it's distributed over a wider area, the ceramic will shatter. This varies depending upon how the material has been baked in the first place as to how it shards. But by the time any energy gets to the soft Kevlar, which of course remember this compresses works like Oreo material, it will compress pushing more energy out across a wider band of the of the infrastructure of the Kevlar, then the steel underneath takes the rest of the impact and knocks it out, stops it in place. Now they made this work, but the first thing you remember is when you're using ceramic in armor, the ceramic is going to take the hit and that's about it for that area. That's why they didn't go with really large panels. Now they did with the World War II with the, for instance, the stand-up arm around the machine gunners were one big leg panel. I always wondered about that. It was like you have a big broken leg cast on. But it saved a lot of lives. The stuff did slow down quite a bit or stop quite a bit from getting through. Now, the thing about that is that it wouldn't necessarily stop a cannon round, like a 20 millimeter German cannon round coming through from an aircraft. Oh, that's probably got you. but spalled and secondary shrapnel and the material coming at you at the same velocity as the cannon shell is what they were worried about and it's since its density isn't as great. Its aluminum aircraft parts usually they'll become an actual shrapnel from an exploding 88 shell or 120 or 240 shell. The shrapnel is the other half of the consideration of the formula. Now the other way to go or the other consideration if you're thinking about it is going ceramic dart heads and that's something that could be done quite well or quite easily even with flaking shards, making shards. Ceramic is quite devastating against Kevlar as a blade. In other words, oh, several years ago we had the nylon CIA blades. Well, they also made the ceramic blades. Now they're still out there and you'll notice you know a couple of swipes and they're sharp because literally you're holding a piece of ceramicized, you know clay That's all it really is. It's glass, you know, it's a variation on glass so it's very effective when it comes to cutting and one of the things I always wanted to do but we just never have had time would to be to make a Delta dart type warhead in or tip and and affix that to a solid shaft of some kind. I would prefer a solid, not a tubular shaft. Then go with an ultra high, you know, prod, something around 150, well actually that's not even ultra high anymore, that's just average. 300 to 600, which was medieval. 600 pound prods being the norm for defense, you know, defense crossbows. And that ceramic shard would just eat right through most everything in front of it. The steel might be an issue, well, probably it would be, but most of the soft armor or things like that, it would just cut through like butter. It would be devastating and once it pokes in through the soft chewy stuff underneath the armor it would be pretty well done and The wicked part is it might even shatter and then create multiple wound channels as it would did you know because it becomes literally Fragmentation or you know a shrapnel onto itself go ahead from dynamic and now analyst us pattern don't exactly as you just write yet at the option of you have subject you have access to us defense conversion and or our department of energy AG REA you have the cataloging available if they haven't already destroyed it that it should all be put in it only by virtue that they were able to then and or system but now it's been anyway who is created and that down to the level, by virtue of the regulatory that they have imposed upon themselves and their grandchildren. Now you sent us one of the packets, didn't you? Yes, more than once. If it hadn't been for gunshot, for direct action, you'd have what we had discussed previously, but even the church could shake muscle. anything to it among them and I wasn't planning just that one time. Very good. Real quick, one of the other things about ceramics. Sure. Go ahead. Yes, yes, that's right. I forgot to mention and continue with this ceramic issue. One of the things that hasn't been discussed is that ceramic manufacturing is really, it's considered low-tech slash non-strategic. It's interesting that again, like aluminum or alloying in any other areas, ceramics run a wide range of potential. There's a little thing that I might remind everybody about. We've mentioned for years, hey guys, with gunfire, head for the bathroom. Now, the older the bathroom, the safer you're going to be because it's more likely that a lot of the fixtures and everything in there are going to be ceramic. Now, the bullets flying, the toilet's not going to survive. But guys, you'd be quite fascinated at how good that big old ceramic toilet bowl and the casting body and the tank are at actually slowing bullets down or stopping them. And I can attest to an experiment just randomly. We had a cracked toilet years ago, and we had a D-clip full of grand M2AP and a grand. And it's like, well, I wonder how much that would stop. It's interesting that firing at intermediate point blank range read that about six to eight feet and of course making sure that there wasn't the possibility of any kickback towards you know, we know the shooter me We decided to experiment by firing four rounds and then four more rounds quickly into the toilet No at the toilet itself and again, this was an open terrain But what's interesting is that the gallon jugs of water I had around it and just to see what would happen with spalled or shard or the bullets. Amazingly enough, although the toilet progressively disintegrated firing at the center of the bowl from the side, as if I were firing in from outside towards the center of a house, Virtually all the rounds were deflected or stopped by the toilet. Now by the time we were done it was finished. Granted you can still pee in a little part of it I think. Or lay a few pieces out there that were larger chunks and utilize them for something. But amazingly enough it did as advertised. Now it won't do it again but hey how many times do you want your life saved by the same piece of technology? It's a stop cap. In other words, remember that with other items designed to destroy energy or deflect energy or take the energy of whatever you got coming in, you can do a lot to create cover, not just concealment. Ceramic is something that has been there. It's come and gone cyclically. During the war, they used a metallic or metallicized ceramic, or it was called actual metal striation. where they incorporate strands of wire or braided wire into the ceramic itself and that created a stronger ceramic panel with regard to being able to again dissipate the energy and hold the panel together in place so that it couldn't be deflected while it's busy doing its job with whatever was left. Go ahead, caller. Yeah, I've got a couple of questions. You originally were talking about crossbows and then balusters, but like I have, I mainly hunt with my bows with its crossbow. These tips are the actual hunting tip, okay? What they allow you to do is change out your blades, whether four blades, three blades, five blades, okay? So with what you were saying there about penetration of body armor, would it be best to leave the blades off? Oh, if you're talking about a conventional blade, I think it would work just as well. All the experimentation we've done, leaving the blades in place would be just as good. One of the things about crossbows, they don't guarantee against crossbow. Most body armor, if you'll notice in the information, with the exception of obviously the steel plates, Will not guarantee 100% protection against crossbow bolts. Will the bolt, will it fly straight, most things are going to be rather close, will it fly straight and would there be more penetration without the blade? Well, that's what I say. What you want to do, think about a point that is an extreme conical. In other words, you want to take a piece of stock, about 3 to 5 inches, from the center bore, you know, let's say you're going to use that aluminum shaft. 3 inches is fairly long, but what you do is you take a piece of stock, you know, if you can. and the way to do it would be on a lathe is actually to cut it down from the standard width at the base down to a fine point at the end of that 3 inch or 2.5 inch length. Now the reason I say do that is because once you've cut it and formed it down you could cut flat a target head and then T-G weld or MIG weld, that really doesn't make any difference. It's going to be probably a one-way shot anyway. But you take that and weld it to a tip that can be screwed back into the standard aluminum shaft and you'd end up with a high probability dart that's going to penetrate more woven body armor, period. It's going to do is say three inches what reaches in length going up into the shaft of the no no no no we're talking about when I was thinking about the We're talking about making an extended Arrowhead is what we're doing, but it's but it but it's here Yeah, you're gonna make it heavier in the front to a degree But we're gonna take we're gonna cut a lot of that metal off another we're gonna make this an extreme taper this literally from the side wall and to you might give it a quarter of an inch standard girth, okay, standard dimension, standard diameter. From a quarter of an inch into that two and a half inch, well, we'll go two and a half inches. That sounds radical for everybody, but it's still extreme. We're gonna bring it right down to a fine point. Now this is a it's gonna go one way once you use it. It's you know, it's probably not gonna be recoverable, but If you build them right we can make them quite economical because it's just carbon steel doesn't have to be anything special just standard carbon steel Rod that can be cut down now some people would argue you could go shorter for the dart and you could you can drop it down to a 1 inch or 2 inch taper, but the thing is or you know from front to back but you what you want is a very steep and very razor sharp or you know, pin point front that's going to go through the weave. That's what they don't want anybody to know about. Ice picks work really well for the same reason on body armor. Think like an ice pick. The thing is that what I'm asking is if I don't have the means to machine anything or weld anything, but I do have bolts, okay? Most of my tips which are as a shaft. Most of my bull, and so, and my, the tips of these, the hunter type tip, they're titanium. Right. I used to hunt like groundhogs and one time I was hunting them in a pile of concrete debris and I missed the groundhog All it did was bend the tip. It was easily fixable. It's not a cylindrical shape. I don't know how many sided it is. I'm just wondering if you don't fabricate your own. You're saying there's no difference between using a four or five blade hunting tip as to just removing those razor blades and shooting with just the tip. Is that what you're saying? Well, I have to see what type of fixture you have. If it's hollow, I don't know how much of the energy with the blades extracted. I don't know how much compression we have on that shaft. So you'd have to experiment by shooting, first of all, at a comparable target for at least simulating a point of impact. The way to do that, get some decent cardboard. and do about 10-12 layers of cardboard, maybe more actually, because you want to try and stop it without again destroying the point, you know, destroying the carrier for the blades. Yeah. Well being in construction, like I have like, you know, quarter inch, three-eighths, half inch, five-eighths, 3-quarters plywood. Even that CIA blade you talked about, I have one and when I got it, it was a polymer and I jammed that into a 3-quarter inch plywood and it almost went all the way through it. It damaged the tip a little bit but I sharpened it back up. I don't know what the comparison between a 3 quarter inch piece of plywood and a body armor would be, but I was impressed. The reason I'm talking about using the plywood or using cardboard, dense cardboard, is because you can fire on it without the probability of losing the tip to distortion. But what you want to do is see if there's going to be any. If it will distort with cardboard, chances are it will distort on impact with whatever else it hits. The reason I say that is because if it has a razor blades mounted, there are lengthwise serrations or connector points, aren't there? Oh, absolutely. Yeah, see what that is, when you take the blades out. It goes in a lock. It locks right in. There's a ring that goes over it, and then a lock, like a lock washer. thing and once you tighten that down it's locked in. See now there again that would probably be strong enough by itself but depending on the blade configuration the blades are an assist also but most important is the how fine the point of contact is which directs all of the initial applied energy against the weave. What it does is it compromises one or two or three welps And as it pushes through, my experience on all of these are like a needle. You're not going to stick your finger and push on it. It's that sharp. Right and that that type of warhead or that type of tip would probably be sufficient for what we're talking about doing even with the blades with the blades you remember with with every additional you know so many micro millimeters of Of surface you're going to have additional resistance Now that may or may not be a bad thing like I said I want to go through the outer armor on the front But not the armor on the back You know what I mean? In other words, my ideas go maximum penetration, but the reason for that is because a lot of what we're going to be seeing out there if you were going with engaging with a crossbow, even at shorter intermediate range, intermediate range, remember, you're going to lose energy because of drag. But when you do engage, the idea behind this is that you staple them into the armor. It's kind of like what, remember the, we talk about the guy who has the slingshot channel? He took a massive ball bearing with the one slingshot that he builds normally and he had a five gallon pail of gelatin which is about like a person's chest except that your air sacs don't offer any resistance, okay, your lungs. And he fired it and the projectile went straight through everything which is a hell of a lot better than some rifles would have done. And he said oh, that's not what I want He goes hold on a minute so he goes back and they change the camera because he had to go into the howl go into the garage and he comes back out with about a Bigger than your thumb actually in diameter Steel ball bearing and he shoots again and that one goes three quarters of the way through the gelatin lodges inside and he goes oh Yeah, that's what I want now. Yeah, well I understand this because like Bullets killed by shock and bladed weapons like in the crossbow heads, they kill, if you have three cutting edges, I mean, in all the heads I've used, they go through Bambi. Very few, I'd say, a shoulder or a bone, they go through, and you don't even see it go through it so fast. You have to go over there and look and there it is sticking in the dirt. So when if three blades go through, they're cutting vessels. If four blades go through or five blades go through, they're cutting more vessels. So the question about shooting armor is will it penetrate and cut any vessels or I don't know what the caliber is on the tip of a crossbow. A field tip is about 3-8". On the field tips, the center of that is probably a quarter of an inch. So, I'm just wondering what the difference is in penetration, if it's worth it to leave the... If the arrow could get in past the body already, then it's going to be cutting. And if it doesn't, then you just want to penetrate. As long as it gets in there and makes a hole, then... That's what I'm asking. That's where we'd like to experiment with. But you see, the key is the fact that if it already is a razor point, in other words, if it's already a fine point, what happens is the energy applied by that fine point separates the weave and allows for the shaft to open up to whatever the bore diameter is, the material that it's trying to go through. With the weave on any Kevlar, or even the new whatever they're calling it, the other plastic that failed, you know, it was Kevlar, is still out there and the new plastic which is another Kevlar is what actually caused second chance to call you know declare bankruptcy and change their name. Either way the Kevlar weave itself which all you're trying to do is separate it like you would cloth like a needle a pin or a needle do when they go through to sew. Just think of it that way so it'll offer sufficient energy probably when it gets through but Sticking a dart into somebody in a way that they can't get it back out in other words You you shovel it through the front armor if it's grade two or three It goes through the you know body parts hits a bone or Staples through just enough to spike the inside of the armor on the other side I don't think I'd be one of the person to try and get that off somebody Well, if you shoot lower You know, I mean, if you're just enough and you can hit a light in the upper thigh area there where the body armor isn't. Yeah, it's better still, yeah. Well, it's the idea that for what it costs and for what it does, they don't want to talk about it, there's no noise, you will be able to kind of figure out the direction of the attack because of the arrow. You follow the arrow line back to where it came from, kind of. So you're hoping the target's either going to ride around, fall sideways, flop around, and scream, and create that much more confusion for you. There was a great discussion about this years ago, just the idea that the crossbow is cool and creates lots of confusion depending on how it's employed, but you've got to be careful when you employ it in that once you fire, you move. In other words, don't put yourself in a situation. Well, even if you do themselves, I don't know whether they know that the click of that mechanism that they Well, they notice it and it's not natural. So once, and that's all a crossbow makes is the clicking the sound of the arrow leaving the bow. It's still a sound and I'm sure if that became a common weapon then people would hear that and they kind of, if they were aware, they'd know in the general direction. So it'd be a move and shoot thing. Exactly, that's the whole point. You want to fire and move out of the line of fire immediately, changing your position. So when you select a position, it's like a sniper hide, you select the position for firing from that allows you to move out of the objective and to a second shooting station as quickly as you fire. We don't need to see the end result. Logically, this is again one of those weapons where it randomly engages and can't really be tracked or blocked easily without first knowing that it's in the area in operational. Second, even if operational, it offers little or no sound on the battlefield by comparison to the DIN. And so there's where employing weapons like this, like silenced weapons, allow for a great deal of stealth because the silenced weapons or the quiet weapons, they don't have to be silenced, we've talked about that too, but weapons like this offer again another dimension that creates a great deal of anxiety for an aggressor where they're not able to deal with it. Well, anyway, I'm sorry, go ahead. No, no, it's okay, go right ahead. Well, even when hunting deer, which is mostly the animal I've hunted, as I've become aware of how they move and what sounds they make, they jump over barbed wire fences and a hoof may catch it and it makes a sound. So when I have to get into, say, my stand quickly, sometimes I'll run up. I won't just do a constant run, but I'll run and do some scratching sounds, etc. I'm going to be mimicking what they sound like in the woods. And so even the clicking sound of the release of the bolt Most people probably won't even know what that is unless they hear somebody screaming. Well, that's all they'll hear if they hear anything because a well-placed shot is deer can go down instantaneously and mostly do and they won't get 20 feet away. So people are, they might scream for a second, but it's... The blood pressure loss and all that stuff. So, I think hunting is great. I'll say this, that if it's a deer that I shoot or sometimes I've missed, but not often, and it hits a tree, the boat is no longer true. Whether carbon, And so I'll save that, but I won't use that as my first shot. Well the other logic is save every arrow or any bolt you have because down the road just getting them down range on the enemy it wouldn't have to be absolutely perfect or true. but at least get the job done. If it is going down range once, then it's good enough for what it's for. If you do have any that are pink, dinked, or ticked a little bit, one thing to do is mark them so there's no mistake. Grab yourself a little bit of green paint or whatever color is identifiable to you, but not too bright. and splash that arrow with that in one spot on the shaft so that you make no mistake. You'll know exactly what you're picking up and you know that it's limited. Nice thing to use those for is harassment fire. Just like anything else, doesn't have to be the best you got. Harassment fire is just exactly that. It makes them worry about or think about the idea that there's something that goes whiz bang in the night and then they find something stuck in a wall or somebody stuck in a wall with it through them the next morning. Either way, it's the idea, I didn't hear that. Did you hear that? No, we were firing a certain... Yeah, the only way, yeah, whether it's a field tip or a hunting tip, the only way to get that out of a tree is to dig the tip out. But the owl will be there, so that's cool what you just said there. Yeah, I don't throw any of them away, I keep them separated. But I can see marking them for the day, but I keep all of them separated. Just like you said, you sent out fish hook sharpeners? Yes, those actually were not the last prizes. Yeah, well they make sharpeners for these types of blades also. and you can sharpen them up and you can sharpen these things up sharper than they come as a blade than they come factory. contribute excellent and we got another voice or who else do we have before the top of the hour here go ahead yeah George gets parked it okay we got George we got who else? you see Rick California all right we got three okay who was first Rick George George okay okay I'm here to okay everybody wants to say okay we'll go Rick first in California go ahead okay think of that aluminum aero shaft you should be getting the aluminum ones they're stronger and better for our and think of that aluminum shaft as a barrel. Put a little gunpowder in there and load something in the front of that arrow shaft, do the front one, it hits something on impact. We use a, oh, there you go. Actually you could, yeah, drill core center, put a small primer cap there, reverse it actually. It could even go to the point where you could use a small, expended 32 ACP or maybe a 25 ACP case to hold the primary when you have to build anything new. It would go inside the shaft. That would be cool, go ahead. and it just adds on to the whatever you got loaded in the front of it all the way forward. Well, adding excitement to the impact area. Yes, that's what we like. Very good. Thank you, sir. And next, we have another caller. Who do we have? I think BC, so let him come up. BC, go ahead. Thank you, George. Good evening, gentlemen. Mark, I sent you an email concerning the Bibles and the giveaways and stuff. Did you see it? Not yet, no, but it'll pull it up here in a minute. Go ahead. Okay, there's some information about the type of Bible and gives a little information about it and everything. It might be worthy of mentioning it that might entice people to say, hey, I want one of those. And I'm only going to be able to do one per... That's okay. Okay, I just want you to have that up so you wouldn't raffle too often. I donate some money and just let me know and then I'll mail it to you. Five of them on the way from the publisher and so I'll do them in reserve. Are they King James or Geneva? I didn't want someone to get it and then just set it down because it's hard to read like a King James would be. The new King James version or the new American stench but either one of them is just an everyday comic. There's no these, theirs or Elizabethan language at all. No, come, that was tither. Pardon me? No, come, that was tither. Exactly, yeah. It's usable, readable, and it should be a blessing to anyone that gets it. Okay, well thank you, Pastor. Oh, you're more than welcome. Okay, Mark, you know, I talked to a police officer a couple of days ago at work when I was going on my lunch break, and he's kind of like upset because he was hearing about Jay Helm. And the thing is, there's no memos, but he's told the ES to attend no notes briefings on Jade Helm. Yes, that would make sense, that's exactly what happened. Now, that's a heads up with the other parts that we have here. When they did the no notes briefings for a Jade Helm type exercise here in the Midwest, What they did they came into Detroit unannounced They didn't tell anybody other than the management who got their money in their back pocket probably ten twenty thousand dollars payoff They put guns to the head of the garbage workers. They literally came in stole trucks at gunpoint with the men having no clue what was going on They did not identify themselves as anything. They just simply came in and raided the city attacked the city The culmination of that was the FTX we talked about up by the Detroit metropolitan airport and that was on the south side. It was a neighborhood that they were reclaiming for Safety Zone, actually to expand the airport, and they did live fire there. Now this was not blank fire, this was live fire. We recovered both ammunition from the site, expended cases, shotgun, rifle, and pistol, and both expended munitions such as grenades and smoke, and live grenades that they had left behind. In fact, all that was documented and handed over to the Wayne County Sheriff's Department progressively who were kind of panicked because number one, I'm sure they were still in on the affair, but they didn't think they were going to get caught up in it because they were covering for the Fed because they're the ones who run at the time ran airport security at Detroit Metropolitan Airport. Now, if we see something like this again, remember that they plan on using the locals as meat puppets sandbags. keep reminding them of that, explain to them, well you know the way this works? You guys are all cannon fodder. They want to put you up front from the door to door for grabbing people and if you all die they don't care. This is what he thinks is happening because he says like Harris County and a few other cities are sucking up to the fence even trying to find a corn up the anal orifice if they can. I mean he was thinking of all these cities that are going to go along and invite the vets in that these are going to be launching points that go out to the counties that won't go along with it. Right, friend foe. In fact, if you look at the mapping exercise component for the strategic overview, they're mapping out the states as friend foe. And if you look the way they did, the states that are raving leftist or communist or at least redight types or again, what, Feinstein type states. Those they've marked and it's interesting that it's kind of accurate with the way the situation is going in that there's plenty of rats like in Arizona But Arizona has been doing all kinds of pro-gun activity to the point where they've overturned the carry permit law They've overturned the open carry laws. It's all 100% your your right to do Everybody said we're tired of the California cater garbage retired of all these people making everybody victims victims only get dead They can't do anything for themselves and Arizonans that are real Arizonans know better. So what really this exercise is reflecting is what we told everybody about a spring, a spring FTX, which in reality is a spring offensive. Now, but Mark, they say July. Now I'll add something. And I said this this morning, I'll repeat it again. Guys, we've been talking to people that we know first person. And right now they have taken guard units and active and reserve units and thrown out their training schedules for the year. Some of these units were actually supposed to go either overseas, which would have put them over in the war zone that everybody's talking about, would have put them over in the stands or put them over in Europe proper. Instead, in the next two to three weeks, they are going to shift them out west and they're dumping as much manpower. But here's the thing, I talked to these people and they said one thing, first thing that came out of their mouth, we have no advanced prep. In other words, they don't know where they're going to be quartered. They don't know where they're going to... they don't want to have tents set up for them. They're being told when they hit the ground, it's what they got is all they've got. And that they're going to have to... again, that will be worked out hopefully before they get there. This includes Arizona, which by the way, these are unscheduled exercises. They're completely out of the training cycle. Okay, go ahead. I hear a hello. What do we got? Yeah, who do we have? Oh no, I'm right here. Cuddle. Cuddle. Uh, Ed, am I off? Cuddle. Go ahead, caller, we got you. I was just trying to get your attention to the gentleman who was calling you. I'm trying to call him. I understand that. No, no, I heard that, but I just... Okay, back down. Who else? We have somebody else calling you. Who do we have? Yeah, Mark, you faded out for a few seconds. Wow, okay, interesting. Well, anyway, the fact is that what they've done is they've taken these units, which by the way, everybody knows they've got a 12 month training schedule. In fact, one of the guy had his credit card in hand for his unit. And he said, yeah, I said, well, you and I both know that the credit cards, if they don't, if they run out before the end of the year, you don't even train. Fact of the matter is, guys, they don't have any funding for this operation per se, except that what they did is they said, well, we're going to pull the other operations, move the guys to Arizona, New Mexico, and to Nevada. and they're going to be on the ground over the next three, four, and five weeks to begin with. Now this is happening right now. This is not maybe, kind of, or sort of. This is right from the mouth of the people in the states that are going to those states. First hand, I talk to them personally. This is a radical change and it is something that they've never seen before. Because guys the government's anal retentive about good training schedules anybody any of you been in the military you know this All of it's shifting right now, and it's not shifting overseas It's shifting to the southwest and to the states that were targeted by the BLM. That's the key to this whole thing Anyway, we're gonna go top. We'll be back right away though. God bless the Republic We shall prevail ladies and gentlemen the Empire's on the run And we are the mark. U-R-A-R-A-N-E-R-A-N-E-R-A-N-E-R-A-N-E-R-A-N-E-R-A-N-E-R-A-N-E-R-A-N-E-R-A-N-E-R-A-N-E-R-A-N-E-R-A-N-E-R-A-N-E-R-A-N-E-R-A-N-E-R-A-N-E-R-A-N-E-R-A-N-E-R-A-N-E-R-A-N-E-R-A-N-E-R-A-N-E-R-A-N-E-R-A-N-E-R-A-N-E-R-A-N-E-R-N- Let us help you find the right shotgun or rifle for you. 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