Live 365 If he called out from the grave, he'd build the land of the free. Your training and you will come back alive. Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. This is the second hour of the afternoon intelligence report. I'm Mark Kornke. And I'm Don Beecher. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west. Southwest, East, and North. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you were listening to us on LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com, Indiana Freedom Talk Radio.com. We're on AM and FM microstations, CB base stations, and UltraNet Technologies East and West of the Mississippi. along with Alaska. Homework network from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida. From the bottom of Florida to the ark of the Gulf of Mexico, headed to Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma. Big chunk of Nebraska, a whole bunch of Wyoming to include both 3rd, 5th, and our friends in the recall state of waving to the left coast where we have the great state of Jefferson. We turn back to the east, sweep across the plains, leap over the burgeoning banks of the Mississippi. and land in the Smoky slash the Blue Ridge with the restaurant crews, grandma teams, okay teams, and the Ma, Bill, Grandma Consortium bring us the Golden Spider. Well Don, it is gray. It's heading towards, you know, we have little snow coming down. Very gradual, light snow, guys. But it is accumulating, so pay attention after sunset. It's going to get more exciting out there on the road. We all need to act accordingly. Pay attention to your environment. It was nice during the day. It will be a little icy on the intersections. Don, what's it like up in your neck of the woods? What's the date today? Let's jump it off the wall there, sir. Well, it is the fourth day of February, the year of our Lord 2015, and it's that stripe down the middle of the week. So, hey, handy dandy 1911 in one hand, God bless John Moses Brown. And that other clever a bunk of bent steel and the other, you know, a magazine for aforementioned 1911. We can insert the magazine in the magazine well and touch that slide release and now we've got one in the chamber and we can tell everybody it is a weapons Wednesday. The perimeter is secure and as I top off my magazine I can tell you there's plenty more where that came from. We can now offer equal opportunity, coercive force, and a very double plus good thing for everybody out there who's on our side. Mmm, double plus bad for those on the other. How's that? Anyway, it is of course 2015 year of battle and the bad guys as is pointed out are of course Flexing their muscles and wagging their weenies in every direction that they can as we know For everybody on the scroll. There's a little piece there about the Batfaggots slash basically Homeland Security threatening the sheriffs of course down on the border. Well of course they are. The communists are trying to get as many of their fellow travelers into the US as possible and they don't want anybody of course to slow down or retard what the communists are doing in their last bid to destroy America. So, let's see. Another point to be made about the border and I wanted to bring this up yesterday morning because I was sitting here getting ready to do the hour and they were talking one of the little news flashes. We'll talk about this this evening. They showed the states that are high in measles right now. You know what came from Disneyland? Measles comes from Disneyland, don't you know? It's California and it's a couple others, but it reaches all the way up to Michigan. I don't know if it was by accident or somebody said, well, they won't notice or they just didn't run the computer. generated map right but you guys when you saw the red states that were high infections of measles right now, Mark they showed enough of a map that they showed that all of Mexico is highly infected with measles. I wonder where this came from? I wonder how this happened. But remember we told you from the beginning on this about the whole idea of this being a typhoid merry wave. And of course all of us evil Americans are terrible because we're just not following the government's police state agenda. But, nobody is doing anything to secure the border with Mexico. And, wow, you mean to say that that plague, which by the way doesn't just run into Mexico, this is a problem all the way down to, oh that's right, so the rest of Central America. Which is where all these NGOs, non-governmental organizations, paid for by the United Nations through the United States. prompted and promoted bringing all of these skanks up the center of the country there across our border to invade and create a typhoid merry environment, which is exactly what we have going on. Congratulations. Here's the other part about that. It wasn't just measles because, you see, this is the one thing also that nobody's talking about. They got hold of and made contact with a lot of people. What was the kids out there? No, it's the workers, the illegal aliens that they've been hiring at places like Disneyland and everywhere else who are handling your food, handling the equipment, handling the gear, handling the clothing, walking out there, touching, feeling everything, including people. And lo and behold, well, what a surprise. And, needless to say, remember, what was the first agenda? Spread the invader out to as many communities as possible, like what the Communists are doing with the Western Ukrainians attacking those who didn't vote for the meat puppet right now that's stealing everything for the Western Shastre bankers in Ukraine. They're killing the people who didn't vote for it. See how that works? There's communism when they get their full opportunity, kids. America is going to be no different. We are supposed to get caught flat-footed as they throw the police state in there to do it to America, to us. We did some Chrysler dealers go. Yeah, exactly. We are a kid all those. And Ford. You know, the oldest Ford dealership in Michigan was in Chelsea, Michigan, one of the top six in the country as far as for age. And it's gone, guys. Now, their mistake, they have their own local bank. Part of this was that they kind of bought into the cycle that was promoted by Ford and by GM and by Chrysler, which was again shoved on them by the international bankers. Had that dealership stayed with its original policy of sticking with financing and operations with the local Chelsea State Bank, they probably would still be here. They were levered by all these characters who were fellow travelers. This put them in the crosshairs and the ability for the shysters to include those backing Obama to go slaughter all of the competition. Go ahead, Guller. as b c down here and uh... being weapons wednesday i hope you don't mind me changing the subject no grant grant you had been mentioning uh... the drum magazines and everything in i wasn't able to get to you yesterday on the show but uh... cdnn on page four of their magazine has high-end european romanian seventy five round drums are reduced price nine ninety nine good price and those are remaining in those are remaining in military as matter of fact I thought you guys were like, okay. So that definitely is worthwhile. And that's www.cdnninvestments.com. Page four on the magazine section. I'll leave you all with it. Good to hear you again, Don. Thank you. Yeah, we had a little fuzz this morning. It was, it was either line issues, board issues, whichever it was, it was hammering the system. And part of that is that new board that's being worked in. It takes time to work all the bugs out. I know exactly what's going on. You have to sit down and play with a little more to accomplish what they need to. If not farther back, so I thought I'd caution everybody on that. Well, we need to find out what's going on. Actually, I was going to hold a new company name because there's a consortium, three different companies that were bought out, including Texas A.K. or A.K. Designs. The new company is www.c-a-n-i-s-d-e-s-i-g-n. That's cannisdesigngroup.com. Now they've got three models, so we need to find out if all three are in back order. The simplest one is $89. They were $60, $62 to $65, but they're about $89. We expect things, prices change. The cost on that, it's ready to play. Supposedly, they need some hand tuning. One of the suggestions is actually tuning the weapon. Well, you know, I have policy against that. The weapon costs $500, the part cost $89. I'll cry less if I make a mistake with the part. But I cry a lot if I made a mistake with the rifle. Oh, man, I can't put this adapter in. How can I glue this? Oh, man, I can't put my factory mags in either. Yeah, how can I glue this metal back in place? Well, there is a metal glue gun. It is called a welder, but it is that we create problems upon problems with that way so it is not that you can't you that you can't get your job done you probably can work and you don't get it done right but i prefer taking surface area off of that adapter and uh... if you do if they are accessible all find out more of the call and talk to these guys tomorrow's will have to do In fact, I even like to have them up. The big thing here again, they're making another model which is a complete, permanently, it's screwed to and affixed to the standard AK receiver using existing available control points. This is literally like adding a complete AR-15 magazine well to your AK. Now, they're not cheap. They're $260 approximately, $269, whatever. However you look at it, the price of a rifle or a good shotgun, but if you have an AK in .223, this is still a very good solution. Another thing I'd point out, any other AK, or at least a .545 by .39, would probably use that magazine well also. And I could use 20 round .223 AR-15 mags all day and pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, and those are available to and they're not outrageously priced so that would be another solution once you got the AR mag personal choice as far as investment I buy a bunch of cheap 20 rounders so no matter what you'll probably get about between 14 and 16 rounds depending upon which 20 rounder it is in a 20 round mag because it's a different size case but you know what it worked So, there are solutions and ways to get around some of the orphan. Well, it's really funny because they're not really orphaned. Overseas the guns exist. Here in the United States they don't. A limited number of the Stava guns that were being talked about this morning, only 500 came in. They were in 223. Mags came in with them, but I am sure that some people scarfed up more mags than others, and that's why the price went where it did for the mags. Or the fact that they're simply impossible to find it seems. Either way, again, that magazine Well solution, we'll have to confirm then and find out what's going on with it, if how far or why they're backordered or without their shared timing on their CNC machinery, because the company does a number of different projects. And they're all American made in country. So we'll find out more about that. I would love to see a complete version of the more expensive model. Because once we can see it, I'd be willing to bet it could be made even cheaper. Just something to think about. Another thing I wanted to touch on too, and Don, you know, everybody lightens guns up. I want to go the other way with the AR, but I still would, I know I wouldn't be adding that much weight. With CNC machinery the way it is, doing a billet cut steel upper and lower receiver has been done before. But I can't, for the life of me, I don't know why somebody isn't building one now. Because it wouldn't be that expensive, it would be no more expensive. It certainly is going to be tougher on the tooling. In other words, you have to make sure you keep it on your tooling. I wouldn't care about external finish. I wouldn't care how icky or tooth marked it is from tired tooling. As long as that internal finish is like glass and all the contact surfaces are where they need to be, I'd prefer it be a little coarse, stuff and rough. You know, the German policy like they did in World War II, you know what? side that don't function aren't really critical for finish. And the more you make them rather, you know, like on non-uniform, the more, you know, they're going to blend in with the environment. Just something to think about there. So it would be nice to find a steel upper and lower. The other consideration, would you ever wear that rifle out? Think about it. We got this discussion today with one of our friends. I was just going, hey, think about it. We talked about the steel. A couple of guys we know bought them back in the 90s. There was a company in. What would you say for weight? Well, I think you'd only gain about another pound. And here's the thing. You probably wouldn't, because we know that the receiver can already be built in aluminum. So one of the things that we can also do is thin wall or lighten up certain points. and I could put lightning lines on the outside. Here's another thing I've always been curious about. They didn't want to do it with the aluminum because of fracturing, okay, because of the nature of the lightweight duty metal. You know, another problem we've had with the bolt carriers has been crud and dirt buildup. But what has been the solution with most other weapon systems if they're steel? They flute the inner carrier channels. Now, what would be the big deal with fluting, you know, like about an eighth inch, you know, a half moon crescent cut? along the channel for the bolt carrier. It gives a place for the crud to fall and as the bolt manipulates or goes through its action it gives a place for the crud to fall out. And for building a steel receiver upper that would be perfect because remember guys in reality when you do that it's kind of like where you see the long fluted barrel grooves that are done now which in reality strengthens the barrels. Lightening the barrel while strengthening the design. Think about it. So, why are they not doing this? Well, the reason they're not doing this is because remember with energy absorption and the way that energy translates into metal, when you create a cut like that and you have a lighter metal, especially a semi-frangible metal like aluminum, I guarantee that what happens is you get fracture lines at the top of that arc in every one of those little cuts. But with steel, you wouldn't have that problem. 41, 40 chromoly steel, hell, sit there and stare at you. For instance, the FN FAL has similar cuts for cleaning in different parts and it's designed to scrub the carbon out. What it does is it edges the carbon out, gives it a place to go like Don said, but then it also takes gravity and it drops down. As it works off the weapon, it goes down through the magazine well and down through the base of the trigger group. which is what's supposed to go. It needs to go. AK does the same thing, by the way. So this is something where I would challenge, I still have no explanation with CNC machinery. Come on, guys. Look at, go to Orange County Chopper, right? Look at all the goofy stuff they've done with CNC machinery with steel over and over again. They've done stainless, they've done carbon, they've done aluminum, they've done aircraft aluminum, they've done titanium. So, what's the big deal? Steel would be no more expensive than doing aluminum billet any day. With a water jet, with a water jet they were doing all that. Right, yeah, well yeah, there's another example. You could do all your course, 80% of your cutting, and I would point something out about the AR-15 or any rifle we're making in the future. You're seeing a few companies that started doing this. They're eliminating the round on the AR. Have you noticed that? There are a couple companies that didn't do that fine detail sculpting and curving and cutting which looks cool because we could do it. If you start thinking about what can I do to shorten the production on this and make more but still make them just as strong. If you take and do this with like a, well for instance an AR, if you were building an AR, the only critical thing is any place or a part needs to be, you have to match original spec and curvature or at least space accommodation. Remember, it's like the charging handle. The charging handle has to be free and clear so it locks. When it locks in place, all the components seat where they're supposed to. And there has to be sufficient clearance so that you're able to reach the charging handle sidebars to pull it back. But that's it. You see what I mean? In other words, making an all-steel upper and an all-steel lower is nothing. And the only thing I think you really have to take into consideration is how long would that rifle live? That weapon has no recoil Go ahead color jump in there. You know it's fluffy I've been thinking for quite a while how nice it would be to have an AR in 30 out 6 The thought occurred to me what magazines would be available? I can think I would be be a are mags be a are mags, but you used to be $2 apiece And that's what we were doing projects like that Mostly we were using those mags and others like it for like the air obtain another one well. No it wouldn't be long enough MG18 mags. Go look those up around the country. You'll find them still for $8 apiece in their World War I magazines. The 30 rounders, they usually come in a travel combat can of 6 or 10 that are still in the original can for like 6 dollars. If you bought a whole can, they were $6 apiece. What we experimented with those is they do fit and work with modification, they work with the Hakeem rifle and they work with the MG, or forgive me, with the G43K43 semi-auto rifle because they're 8mm and the gun was 8mm. There's maybe one or two other 30-06, the Matson 30-06 mags, those might work. But the Madsen is an oddball latching system the way it attached to the side and I've already cobbled one of those years ago the Madsen's were one of the first guns to use like the Czech auto guns they used an aluminum body magazine, so they're not real heavy They're very lightweight in fact. I've got probably a dozen of them. I got them for nothing I got them for like 50 cents apiece and a dollar apiece years ago They used to be able to find them laying around because the mats and guns came out back in the 80s and were used down in the Contra Wars. When that happened, tons of the mats and stuff came out of the Philippines and from South America. They sent a lot of it. They bought it off the Runner Revolution market and sent it to the Contras during the Contra Revolt. That was their way of getting a squad gun or a light machine gun into service. They were cheap. They were a bargain basement. The thing is, it has a side latch. It does not have a straight body cleaning body the way it's set up. So the problem of making an OTSIX and an AR system would be once again, like you said, the magazine while accommodating that. Now I'm sure, and even as we bring this subject up, I swear to God that there was a guy back in about 92 that did this though. He built a 30 OTSIX AR-10. I'm picturing it. I'm pretty sure if you look through guns and ammo on the front cover, there is a little feature piece about this custom gunner. He does wildcat stuff. But I can picture the gun. As far as the mags, I don't know if he hands folded every mag himself because you could do that. Sheets steal them yourself. But there are other, I don't know, six type mags that would work. Most of them, unfortunately, in any large capacity are plastic. There are Eagle and there were Rufus, 30-06 mags for the Remington, you know, remember Pump and Semi Auto? And we've talked about those on the air. Every once in a while you'll find them for like, you know, 20 rounders, 10 rounders and 20 rounders. And the last company that had those was SOG, Southern Ohio Gun. They might still have some, actually. The Remington Woodmaster, right? Yeah, in fact, the first one, Eagle, which now they use the plastic, the clear plastic chip, they went with the clear, the smoke, and then black. But it's the polychip. More like you see, like for doing little cheapy windscreens on toys and stuff like that. The problem, it holds up well enough for a while, but it's still, you know, it's brittle under certain impact. We're pampered because we have all these really cool polymers they've made the AK mags and the AR mags out of. Eagle was predating all of these plastic mags. So their mags work. They made a bunch of Ruger 10-22. They made some Otz 6 Remington mags. They also made them for the 243. I think they made all the standard civilian calibers for a little bit in the 10 rounders. The 20 rounders were more specialized and you'll find those mostly in the Otz 6. Sub-below zero, shock sensitive. Yes, exactly. That's where the problem is. That particular polymer in cold weather, it's a problem. And if it hits just right, it's kind of like a... It's like corning wear. Corning wear is really durable. Handles, heat, whatever else. Drop it the right way and you've got 50 million shards that are razor sharp claws, right? Yes. So, in the AR, you probably would end up, here's another trick that works. If you've got a cheap mag that you can use, like the MG18, here's a trick that would work, because 99% is just getting that body right. You cannibalize, you know, you take two mags to make one. And what that means is you figure out, you calculate what your body dimension needs to be lengthwise. You cut one and a half to whatever level you want to. The difference to make up for the length of the case for the front, you cut the difference on the other arc, and then you glue them together with a welder. You teague weld them is what you do. And then what I would do, to be quite honest, why not? I would go with a fascia plate on the outside, left and right, below the magazine well lip. And that way the magazine was that much stronger because the only thing is bigger mags, bigger springs, more tension being put on the magazine walls. Yes, indeed. But then you still got to work out your, you know, where's your tab going to be? You wouldn't have a problem with your feed lips because the feed lips are already bent to the proper dimension. You know, the 8 millimeter. So they wouldn't have a problem holding the Out6. Yeah, the 8 millimeter and Out6 are... extremely close in length, aren't they? Yeah, the thing is, you can't, if it's built to 8mm in length, you won't have enough length for the Out6 case. But, you do have enough girth. Dimension is correct, diameter is correct. You can always take 30 Out6 cases and neck them down and form them down to make 8mm all day. We used to do that all the time when we needed Boxer Prime. Back in the 70s, we had buckets of mousers. And ammunition was, because it was, you know, again, ammunition was up and down, but we needed reloadable because we wanted to experiment with the body armor work we were doing. And so what we did is, you know, one of the older guys had a nice set of 8mm dies and we just resized a whole bunch of less popular 30 out of 6 Boxer Prime brass. And that was our 8mm test brass. It's not hard to do, but the reason I know this, okay let me give you an example, the FN49 is built in 7mm Mauser, .30-06 and 8mm Mauser. Now, there's just enough of a difference, and that's a rifle for instance that we wanted to build a bigger mag for because it's a 10 round mag and everybody always wants a bigger mag. Well the problem is that the FN49 mag is not detachable in the infantry rifle. and the feedlips are built into the upper mechanism. What you need is a body to go in there. That's why I started cobbling the Madsen mags initially because they were an 8mm and they were an on 6. The first Madsen mag I converted, we got that to fit perfectly into the FN49 with the 8mm variant. But we couldn't stretch, it stretched, you know, there were tons of 8mm cans out there to make other magazines for. But the Opt 6 FN49, the only thing we could do is the BAR. And the thing is that the taper in the front is about a 1.6 inch on either side needs to be brought in. That was the only thing, you have to cut it or re-teague weld it. And you could, and this is something to remember guys, only do as much work as you have to. You only cut it and taper it, say, to maybe a half inch beyond or maybe a quarter inch beyond the base of the stock of the rifle. And the rest stays original. And the advantage of that is you still have the original production strengths in design. And the cases will still, you know, they're not going to really be crunched or tapered. It's just that with the FN magazine, they contour the mag to the double stack. So, the front of the mag actually tapers and follows the angle of the bullet a little bit. Well, that's what you've got to make. Anyway, I'm sorry, John, jump in there, please. I have to scram, Mark. Before we go any farther, night vision technology guys, down the goggles, you have them. I keep hearing you. I'm sorry, the binoculars, please explain to everybody again what do we have available guys and again take advantage of it. 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Of course, we'll also get the music up on the air so people can hear it too. Real quick, I know we were talking about the 3006AR project. Hold on for a moment. It would be a little tough to do in general, but it can be done. However, going back to CDN and investments in their specials, email specials and catalog sections, something at the very bottom of the page for you SIG shooters. They have the government assassins SIG P226 Mark 25 15 round mags 9 millimeter magazine phosphate finished $20 apiece SIG Sauer P228 13 round 9 millimeter mag phosphate OEM $20 apiece and they've got the SIG P229 12 rounder 40 Smith and Wesson 357 SIG mags for $20 apiece So if you've got a SIG and you're looking to try and pick up a pile of mags, there you go. CDN and investment, they've got them in stock. Each one of these, they've got the suicide weapon of choice for mass shooters of the 90s. You know, the federal government SIG P226. Now I'm going to really jog everybody's memory. When all of these mass shootings started from the Prozac prodigies, you know, from uh... the very first school shooter right through to all of the others of the factory shooters the office shooter every step of the way guys remember they were committing suicide but they didn't commit suicide with a long under the shotgun they were carrying all of these that i think they were using a primary weapon they were using a rifle for most of their work and it's interesting to short barrel rifle so if you want to clean your brain basket out putting that that two to three or thirty caliber rifle to your head you know your head go on kaboom Ooh, basket weaving 101 time, kids. Turns everything into like, really stringy confetti and not a whole lot to pick up other than with a bag. Okay? Plastic bag. A small one. Now, as it is, almost every one of these characters were carrying a Sig P226. Now, do you know what a Sig P226 cost back in the 90s? Not that they're cheap now. I mean, there are some surplus ones that have come out. That's the whole point. But back in the day, it wasn't like one of those, yeah, oh, you have one of those cheapy, you know, CIGs, throw that in the basket. Yeah, yeah. But on the other hand, the people who kept getting suicided were always being shot with a CIG P226, almost like the government had a basket full of them on hand. So when they got on site, they could shoot there, you know, the handlers could shoot the supposed mass shooter to make sure that dead men tell no tales. Yeah. So anyway, just a little sub-note on that, SIG P226. And the government provided suicide pistols for mass shooters of choice in the 1990s. Anyway, of course now they do mass shootings only in control zones where they have absolute control and they sacrifice their own or murder people that thought were kind of fellow travelers with them. Typically also it was a cult sacrifices to begin with anyway. Another thing here real quick before we leave CDN and Investments, as is pointed out, they have those 75 round Romanian mags. The drums, those are worth picking up. Again, if you have an AK, an AR, or any weapon where you can get a drum for it, get at least one. That will put you on the same page with the rest of the crew the crew slash the troops that we train and how we operate one of the reasons hey if all else fails you all have a K drums and you got a squad gunner with a Maybe you pick up an RPK and it's a real one Hey, if everybody has a 75 round drum that RPK can be going to town the way it's supposed to kids Well, pop up pop up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up You're all supposed to be carrying a drum for him anyway. That way everybody's got another drum or another batch of mags to go along with his weapon in addition to what you're carrying for you. Kind of like when you were in the infantry you carried a couple of belts of M60 ammo for the M60 gunner. Or a can of saw ammo for the saw gunner or two. And everybody carried some so that base of fire chain weapon could continue to function. Well the RPK serves the same purpose in the in the Eastern block countries and that's why they built them Okay, because the drum is sealed and self-contained. So again CDNN Investments.com Then go there always check out their email specials and catalog specials guys. You never know what you can run into They're showing the kel-tech KSG 12 shotgun, you know, that's one of the double pump the double double magazine feed Star Wars blaster shotgun looks really cool That's the one that works. The Kel-Tec, they thought through, there's the, I came to think of the company that made the other one where they reversed the magazines and they also put big slots in the side and of course those slots have offered dirt. They didn't just, didn't quite get it. They were in a hurry to get the thing out and if it's not in the laboratory under perfect conditions, it has problems. The Kel-Tec on the other hand does not. Kel-Tec weapons are made in the United States. They're American designs. The group that's been coming out with their weapons has been pretty intelligent and they have a flavor and look all their own. So, Kel-Tec is definitely worthwhile, but Kel-Tec is also pricey. So make no mistake, that's why it's Call for Price! Yeah, I know. Call for price. Anyway, the other thing here about magazine modification, as we were talking about in the morning also, You try to do minimal modification of anything if at all possible. Okay, you try. And the reason I say that is with whatever possible, we'll try to line you up with the right parts for the right gun. Immediately, as quickly as we can. Okay? The reason common sense was built for it, it'll work with it. Now that doesn't mean that we don't have the machining skill or the technical skill to build stuff, especially where we have components that are already like say 80 or 90 percent there. But whenever possible try to match up and you know again grab the stuff that makes sense I'll give you an example when sometimes when I say go buy it buy it a lot of you remember when classic firearms came out with a single stack a case they were what they're not what little washers came first then it was the you goes the sauce you know this is the stop up but they're the state straight round 10 round mag rifles Well guys, the rifles were $450 with 20 magazines, remember? 20, count them, 20 10 round magazines. Now that's not super fancy, but for training rifles, it's a standard AK design, so when you load that, when you try to get that AK mag to work, it works the same as a standard full-size AK mag, so you recondition your muscle, muscle memory, and everybody, they're able to collect data, they get experience. It's a cool thing. Muscle memory is critical, especially, you know, night or dark, light or day, whatever you're doing, you know, whatever kind of environment you're in, you know, really bright, really shiny, not so much, really dark, pitch black, can't see a thing. You automatically perform the action. In many cases, you'll do it without even having to look once you become proficient through repetition, okay? Well, right now you can buy the same rifle for the same price, but now it's 10 magazines. Here's another thing for the longest time those stack mags those single stack 10 round mags didn't come in to the point where Remember Center fire systems had a couple of rifles. They were selling with no mags You got the rifle, but you got no mags Now there were mags available before and they were like three and four dollars apiece And I told her but I said hey grab that rifle then buy a pile of those mags for two dollars apiece Well somebody did they bought pretty much all of them Turns out we found out that also another jobber bought a big chunk of them but nobody knew where the guy was and nobody knew that he had them so they've been sitting on these stale potato chips for quite some time. And apparently that guy went out of business, somebody else bought his inventory so we don't know where those mags went. So they would have been sold had everything been copacetic but fickle finger of fate and weird things had happened. That's not a problem. Now I wouldn't want to go out and build a whole bunch of those 10 round mags because they're too specialized. When they are available and they are cheap, you see, buy the snot out of them. Even if you can't buy ammo to buy the mags, if you have a unique firearm and all of a sudden the mags become readily available and cheap, if I tell you to especially, grab the puppies. AK-74 mags used to be $1.25 a piece. How much are they now? In fact, my base price was $0.75, then they went to $1.25, job or wholesale. There is only one company that brought all those East German mags in. I kicked myself in the arse. Macra mags were 25 cents a piece, AK74 mags, the East German for 75 cents a piece all day. The more I bought, the cheaper they get. If I bought a thousand, they would have been less than 75 cents a piece. You know what? I should have. I really, really should have. That's one of those years ago, looking back, man, you could have had a V8. Well, anyway, there's still little things like that that pop up. take advantage of them. Now last but not least, I want to get this in. You know, there's these stupid comments made about the high point pistol. It's an ugly gun. You know the high point's ugly. You know that ugly high point? Oh, he's got a high point because it's an ugly gun. Have any of you looked at the Walther PPX M1? Well, I'll tell you what. You put that up there and tell somebody you want to see a picture of my new high point? And there'd be people making all kinds of stupid statements, well, it's a dumb gun. I heard from somebody who heard from somebody who heard from somebody that the high point's a dumb gun. Really? Well, what about this? Don't show you. I don't like it because it's an ugly gun. Oh, oh, I'm sorry. That's not a high point. That's a Walther PPXM1. What? Well, but, yeah, well, you lay the Walther next to the high point. And guys, in fact, if you could put a pile of them there, most people simply wouldn't pick them out. Seriously, go take a look. CDNN has got them on their front page right now for $300 a gun for the Walther PPX. And you can buy two furs, you can get two of the high points, or a little more than two of the high points for the price of even one of these on sale. I assume that the reason they're on sale, they went from $500 to $300, is because everybody kept looking at me going, that's a high point. That's an ugly high point. That's a high point. No, it's not. It's a styre. Okay. And it's a cool gun. It looks like a cool gun. If you like styres, then you got a, you know, I mean that $300 not bad for a, you know, plastic and, you know, metal gun. And in fact, the four inch barrel. And I don't think anything else. Two 16 round mags come with a gun. Okay. Again, I can buy two full pistols and they're high points and they're American made and they're American contract. They've got a lifetime warranty for as long as that lasts until the war starts. So you can have two guns to stash away and those two guns are enough so you walk up behind that center and go bop bop bop bop bop bop bop if you have to and while he's fallen you're already taking the rifle off of his corpse and picking the mags and your buddies are covering a little bit by dealing with that other guy that was the other sentry and now you have two rifles. And now somebody wants the other high point. Here you go. You take the high point I've got the M4 or the AK or whatever the guy was carrying and Now it's let's go hunt another guy. Let's go get some more guns But that high point worked just fine for going bop bop bop bop bop You see it's a hand cannon. So just take a look at it's a Walther PPX M1 you do a quick look is like that's all What model a high point is that? Oh, I guess. So it ain't pretty, but it don't have to be, and I don't really care about pretty. I haven't cared about pretty for a long time. I'm worried about function, and again, cost is as much of an issue to get more for less. If I can get more, I got two people armed. Two people is a good thing. If I can get three for the same price, that's an even better thing, especially if it really does the same thing the other gun does, which is you load the mag into the, up through the pistol grip, pull the slide. point, click and it fires. Wow, seems to be pretty consistent. Well, high point will do just that too. So again, check them out. See if it floats your boat. You might like that Walther. Maybe you already have Walthers. We've had Walthers for years, guys. And the Walther P-38s are piled up all over the place. Hell, we used to get those for $65 a piece if you knew where to look. And sometimes you get them by the case. Now they used to buy the case at $90 a piece a little later on. But still, $90 a piece for French Walther P-38s, the off German stampings, 1946, 1947, 1948 production. Oh, you remember those? The gray Walthers, when they first came in, they were bargain basement guys. Yeah, and then everybody said, oh, they're collectible. And then all of a sudden the price went stupid. Yeah. Now, what you said about it ain't pretty, but it's functional, kind of reminds me of something that Red Green would probably say. Because if you're not, if it's not It should be handy. with a plethora of arms, but how many are going to be, again, in the wrong place at the right time? That's the question. And down the road, we're still going to be looking at battlefield consumption. Some of the weapons are going to tire out. Some of them are already tired because they've already been in service. They're functional and useful enough, but we either have to have spare parts ready, Or we need to have a replacement weapon system on standby to start supplementing what we're using so that we don't lose our stride. See, we've got to make sure production and support keeps up with demand. That's the thing. I'm really serious about, and I'm working on the prints. In fact, I have the manual right next to me. It's actually going to one of the other print shops. We're going to be redoing the Moddy Griffin manual again. We're going to make some recommendations about how to be able to scale down to do like a Mardi Grifen using the same prints. Just scale it down by 50% and you got yourself a 30-06 bolt-action sniper rifle. Now if you built a 30 caliber Mardi Grifen instead of 50, a 50 would cost you $350 to $380 and the biggest cost would be the barrel. All the rest of the parts are raw metal. But if you were going to build it out of 30 out of 6, guys, I believe you could put an out 6 or a 308, Mardi Griffin together for as little as, in fact, or an 8 millimeter Mauser. That would be cool. You could build any of those for probably about $100 to $110. at most and you'd be talking about a brand new brand new gun now the only thing would be the barrels the reason I bring that up about the eight millimeters because I'll give you an example right now you can buy brand new eight millimeter barrels for forty some dollars apiece because not being how many people are excited about the Mauser's because eight millimeters not as readily available the way it used to be Which means that it can be made into a very serviceable sniper rifle with again preview partisan or Sabo loads whatever you're gonna do But in 30 out 6 hey it'd be a tack driver 308 it'd be a tack driver And here's the cool thing if I scale the drawing down one step again I could make a 2 2 3 bolt gun now guys There are 2 2 3 barrels out there right now that could be used for a Mardi Griffin 2 2 3 bolt gun I'll bet you I could build it for 60 to 70 dollars The biggest cost would be the barrel. But there are surplus barrels out there right now. In fact, if you go to Gun Parts Corp, they even remember they had a bunch of two, two, three barrels in the white. Maybe they had it scarfed up right away. $29 apiece and they were rifled. And they were chambered. So, what's the rest of your cost? Let's see, a 4140 chromoly tube for the receiver, a piece of 4140 chromoly steel that's about two inches long for round block for the trunnion, and then you've got to have, what, with a 223, the bolt would probably be no longer than about eight inches. It would be a little long. No, it would be about 8 inches long. 6 to 8 inches long depending on how you, you know, again, what do you do with adding more barrel and reducing the length of the stroke of the bolt. Because it's a single shot. It's not a magazine fed. This is a single shot tack driver. Bullpup design. So in other words, you're shortening the action but still getting a full 22, 23, or 24 inch barrel on there if you want to. You can go with a military length barrel of 20 inches in 2, 2, 3. Now again, all of it would be standard all of it can be done with hand tools off the shelf and you're looking at being able to build a 223 a 30-06 or a 50 caliber bolt gun and no papers no track ability but Absolutely able to reach wherever you want to with it depending upon how you build it As far as you know, what do you spend on the barrel? The barrel is what's going to make that rifle? So there's a solution and again, we're working on it. There's we've got several print projects We have to have a new printer for this Because of other issues we've been dealing with, having with the other printer, it's also having to do with our Battle for the Republic books. We've got those all on the computer again, not ours, but with the printer. And we've got to work on that to get that done and out of the way. Which is happening one day at a time, guys. We split up between 50 million projects and six hours worth of broadcasting. And the Admiral is heading away from the Tea Party, which they had out there at the docks. Some interesting stuff, but we'll comment on this tonight once we get into it. It'll be here. Don'll be back with us for the evening intel report. Once you stop being done on the History Channel, it's goofy to say the least, trying to really twist things around with the American War for Independence. We're going to talk about that. Guy? Hey Mark, we got snow foreign down here at the Pennsylvania-Ohio border, I-76, 70 IH. On the northern end? I'm just not ready to destroy right behind you there. Right off Lake Erie. Okay, well you know how that works. Well we're getting hit with some of it, but we're getting the soft fuzzy end. We're not getting it real heavy, but we are getting it consistent. So we've got another inch accumulation. We've got a back floor. Guys, we've got Craig from Forbidden Knowledge coming up next, and hopefully he'll be there live. For everybody out there listening, take advantage of his copper rounds. God bless the Republic. Now the new world's order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The empire is on the run. That Walther PPXM1 looks just like a high point! Oh, that's why they had to bring the price down. I'll bet you Stryer, a Walther is probably really wondering about that. Why aren't they selling? Why aren't they selling? Well, you know, it looks like a high point. Oh, the horror! Wait a minute, that's like saying Chevy. It looks like a Chevy. Okay, cool. Well, the Mexicans buy them, nothing else. Okay, we'll be back in a little bit right here. Liberty Tree Radio, Ed Take It Over and Craig coming up. Bye bye. doing these radio programs as much anymore as they used to. If you're listening on, let's see, I believe it's the 10th. Let me look at the day here. Yeah, the 10th of December, then you're listening live. Live show, 10th of December of 2014. That introductory,