December 17, 2014
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1h 8m
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2014
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Mark Koernke discussed military tactics and equipment observed in Ukraine conflict videos, emphasizing rear guard operations, logistics failures, and war crimes concerns among Ukrainian forces. He provided detailed product recommendations for firearms and ammunition, focusing on the PTR-91 rifle package, Catamount shotgun magazines, and .308 ammunition as cost-effective options for preparedness. Koernke covered weapon maintenance, shooting techniques, and the importance of accuracy over volume fire in militia operations, while encouraging listeners to make substantial Christmas purchases of ammunition, magazines, and tools.
- ukraine conflict
- militia tactics
- rear guard operations
- ptr-91 rifle
- hk91
- catamount shotgun
- 308 ammunition
- magazine capacity
- weapons wednesday
- preparedness
- logistics
- battle rifle
- accuracy
- militia riflemen
- jgsales
- cdnn investments
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Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money is spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. And keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise. Take a stand. Defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land. Preserve our great Republic and each God given right. And pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms He fought to keep what would be your answer if he called out from the grave is this still the land of the free and people were smart They'd walk into kev and hang every last stinking foreign pig that was made a Ukrainian in the last couple of days so the foreign invaders could strip everything from the country. There are not Ukrainians that are running the operation. Foreign Shasters all hang them or run them out at bayonet point and chase them all the way to the border. But your best bet is not to let them get away. Anyway good evening ladies and gentlemen this is the evening intelligence report. I'm Mark Cornke. one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, southwest, central, and north. Ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to us on LibertyTreeRadio.4MG.com, Indiana Freedom Talk Radio.com, we're on AM and FM micro stations, CB base stations, and Net technology is east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska homework network from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida from the bottom of Florida across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico Headed Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas Oklahoma big chunk of Nebraska a whole bunch of Wyoming to include both the third the fifth the pit and our friends in the recall state of Colorado. Waving the left coast where we have the great state of Jefferson, we turn back to the east, sweep across the plains over the Mississippi, and land in the Smokies with the restaurant crews, Graniteams, OK Teams, and the Ma Bell Grammar Consortium, bring us the Golden Spike. Many hands make for light work. A million Petticoat Junction operators. The ability to continue to function when everything else is offline. It is a beautiful, beautiful Wednesday evening. Actually, it's between fall and winter. Certainly headed towards the winter stroke now, so guys, pay attention on the roads. Had any melt today. We're looking at, again, icing up, snowing at night a little bit. And then in the morning, if it gets a little warmer or even just stays where it is, watch those intersections if you're taking off, because as you know, It's going to get pretty exciting to say the least. Not everybody's got their snow foot yet when it comes to driving. Slow down earlier and they'll give a little space between you and the car in front of you at least. Today's date? Well, it is the 17th of December, 6th year of Open Fabian Socialist and Soviet Socialist Occupation of America with a K. 2014 Old Earth Calendar or Mayan Crazy Town. Crazy Town. Anyway, it is Weapons Wednesday. For everybody out there, if you want to check out some interesting videos on YouTube, I told you before with regard to going to the videos on Ukraine, interesting little piece, English subs, female militia, LIA of NAF Sparta unit. A little interview with one of the women soldiers over there in the Ukraine, militia men. Militia ladies, it's militia women. But again, I'd give you a feel for looking at equipment technology, basically the attitude of the people that are fighting, and pay attention to the environment, what's going on around the individuals when you're seeing a lot of this home footage that's being done. Definitely good coverage. They're into winter over there now and as I pointed out, guys, pay attention. Take a look at the equipment they're deploying with. Most of these situations, you can't tell the difference between the average militiamen that we've got over here outfitted, very well equipped, and what you're seeing with regard to the Eastern Europe, Ukraine militia, the noble Russian militia, and their deployment and how they've been operating quite successfully. One of the biggest complaints from the Ukrainian POWs from the Queer side has been lack of logistic support. In fact, repeatedly, the most fascinating thing, no cigarettes, no matches, nothing showing up, nothing. Interestingly enough, the complaint was not even the medics or the evac units. would come forward to carry the peel, you know, the, forgive me, the casualties back. So if your medics aren't doing their job and the casualties are piling up and the food doesn't show up and the cigarettes don't show up, and I'm sure the drinking vodka doesn't show up, whatever else is out there just seems to be not available and logistics, logistics, logistics, as I repeated before, over and over again, What makes the difference between staying power and ending up having to evac an area for lack of material support to continue to function? That happens. Shouldn't be a surprise. Okay. Now as it is, there's a bunch of other interesting components to what you're seeing deployed now. A lot of older equipment is popping up left and right. And a large number of SKS's seem to be in the latest wave. And this is winter footage, so this is modern, up-to-date imagery of what all is transpiring with regard to the deployments and operations there. Note again, like you see here in the US where you're getting a mix of cold and warm, Fog cover, especially in winter operations, is actually a very useful tool. You might notice that it's very difficult. Tough enough at best when you have any fog conditions, but when you have white out snow, ground, you know, with gray, whites, etc., and all of a sudden you're faced with a fog bank, through the haze of that condition, it's pretty tough to acquire targets, you know, precisely. First orienting yourself towards the center of whatever you're going to be attacking. Several of the videos that are up there right now are Raider units. They're actually, you know, five man fire teams or 10 or 12 man squads moving in, doing a sortie, and then evacing or DDing the AO back to their own perimeter or back to a strong point. Several videos have been kind of interesting because again, we see the need for a rear guard in the use of a rear guard operation. while the rest of the unit falls back. Now when we talk about a rear guard, when you have a squad or platoon, only two men typically are used for standoff or rear guard operations. When they're deployed like that, it should be noted that The rear guard typically uses suppression, volume, fire, but accuracy is still very critical. Again, if you at least keep it pressed into the target area, not just cracking bullets over the bad guy's heads, you'll notice that it keeps them back a tad farther and that's what your standoff unit, your rear guard unit, is supposed to do. You still use what is a reverse overwatch if at all possible to extract yourself, although in some cases just turning and unarsing the AO is enough. Once you've grunted and blocked the units and you turn and pull back, taking advantage of terrain, structures, whatever, you're able to pre-deploy for the next step. And again, whenever you can put greater distance between you and the last corner or the last obstacle, Then, when you suppress fire again, it takes longer for them to catch up with you to your second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth position. By stretching that distance out progressively, you run the aggressor out much in the same way again that you're being run out. Nobody has an indefinite amount of calories or energy to pull in a situation like that, guys. So watch the videos, pay attention to especially the Raider operations. The best way to do this is go to YouTube. You can punch in Ukraine battles or you can run in Ukraine war. What I use is militia, which is a really good choice because most everybody incorporates the term militia into the search mechanism. You'll find every day there are new videos posted. and you'll also find that if you really are not careful, your best bet is to make sure if you can pull them down and put them on disc if you want to use them for class work. YouTube and the Shysters that run it have been pulling or dropping a lot of these people's videos because they're not really graphic. I mean there's no people being cut in half. They've been very tactful about not showing the casualties but they're not like Jericho. They're actually showing you how to do or how things actually work in the field and what does work. Remember that it's the militia units with inferior numbers, lesser weapons systems, and no air force that have beat the Ukrainian forces, the western forces, repeatedly. This includes a series of significant surrenders of western Ukrainian units, which has now been pretty well heavily covered on video and is now being put out there for people to watch. Now, one of the things that is becoming a problem is the war crimes issue. So if you watch a lot of these videos, one of the first things that I noticed is, and I was wondering about this before they even mentioned the war crimes thing, is Everybody that's talking about how they were left hanging on a limb is trying to qualify also what their job was. At first it was like, oh, there's something going on here. Because the first guy goes, oh, yes, I was only on checkpoints. I was only on checkpoints. All I did was stand guard on checkpoints. That's all I did were checkpoints. And he repeated that. That's kind of interesting. And then the other guy's like, I'm really sorry for what I did, but all I did, I just worked as an infantryman. I didn't do anything else. When we saw what happened, we're totally disheartened. Blah, blah, blah. These are a can of past statements to kind of deflect the idea that, well, when they were invading and they thought they were going to be all pumped up, which they were, and that they were going to get to right kill, pillage, and burn. Well, maybe they did some. A lot of people are worried about being arrested for indiscriminate shelling of the population and machine gunning people and shooting up the population and the buildings and the public infrastructure. Now what they've been doing with the POWs over there on the western, from the western side over on the east, is to have them clean up the mess. Which I think is kind of intelligent. It's like, well, you guys came over to us. We didn't come hunting for you. So, you can grab a shovel, a pick, and a garbage barrel. By the way, we got a lot of stuff to make right. So, get out there to those houses and the guy will shoot you if you probably... Of course, they seem to be very, let's say, not too motivated. Now, part of this is that the many complaints you'll find in a lot of the videos from the characters that surrendered is that, again, no supply showing up, no logistics, no plan for logistics. And the formations that would have had to have provided the supplies didn't, you know, decided not to do their job. Well, I'm not going through there. I might get hurt. I might get killed. That's not in the movies. I didn't see that in any of the recruiting videos, which is of course typically the case. Here we have a situation where everybody is seriously in trouble. In other words, it might be good for you guys to stand together and they left him hanging on a limb. One pocket after another, many elements surrendered, of course with the commander's lamenting, but the units walking over the other side. And it's interesting with regard to POWs is that what they're doing in the east is contacting the families. They're seeking out contact and then they're handing the POWs back over to their families provided they can identify who they are and they know that they're going back to their homes. Which is very interesting. It's like, no, we really don't have a need to feed them and we didn't really want to see them in the first place and if we can kick them on down the road, We're going to kick them on down the road, which is what they're doing. But if not, until they're picked up, they're running a shovel, they're working a wrench and repairing equipment. There's POWs, a number of different subjects where they're being put to work to fix what they broke. I think that's rather interesting in and of itself. They're not boxing them up. They don't want to keep them in the fence so they can help. They are a little more incentive by what they said and they basically have been saying that they get a little bit of food, they get better heat. In general it is just a little bit of a condition if you decide to turn a wrench and help with some of the work. That is rather interesting and very different from the propaganda they have been trying to whip everybody up with and generate to the west. Another thing I would point out is the Donest Airport which is a battleground now since the beginning of hostilities over in the Ukraine. Guys, it looks like the dark side of the moon. It actually looks worse than the average wreckage and battle imagery that you see for the video games, the first player video game type stuff. Everything is busted. The only thing that they are harping about the airport for is the international bankers because that is an international beachhead for all the shyster operations they are going to pull on West Ukraine or East Ukraine. It's a stalling rod. Right now it has no value to either side. Most every piece of equipment that's on the property has been shot and burned and blown up or partially blown up. Lots of wrecked aircraft. Nothing flying and most everything that's been wrecked has been significantly damaged. In other words, we're talking cratering chunks out of the fuselage and the whole front of the aircraft missing or burned. There's nothing getting up off the ground. The hangers are all fragged. The support equipment's all burned, folded, spindled, and mutilated. Even the snow removal equipment, anything and everything, buses by the lines burned out. Dump trucks for snow removal by the line burned out. How do we know? Great footage by some of the units that are fighting there. One of them, the militia, took the airport. They filmed everything. It's on YouTube. So, just to give you a little hint, my attitude, if I were a field commander under this situation, here's what I'd do. I'd tell the combat engineers to come forward, round up some heavy artillery shells. Let's crater the snot out of this runway. Let's finish up and bust anything that isn't busted, and then nobody can use it, and we won't be fighting over it anymore. How does that sound? because in reality it's become a Stalingrad. It's wasting munitions, it's wasting manpower, it's wasting man hours. Now war is a waste anyway, but in this case it's of no value. They showed images, like, we got the main terminal. The main terminal is less cover than a barn. The inside looks like a scrapyard. There are some counters that look like they were ticket counters. There's not a single piece of glass that isn't broken. There isn't a single piece of metal that isn't bent or shot or burned. So there's nothing of value there. Well you can say, I got the airport! It's like big deal. In reality it's a burden to cross the board. You'd be better off with a hundred smaller runways and airstrips as opposed to that one big stinkin' pig of an airport that serves no purpose except the bankers. So I just want to plant this seed and remind everybody, number one, we plan on getting rid of all the international zones in the United States anyway. So we'll be fighting in a similar situation as this. Those sites aren't going to be around after a while. We're going to just make sure that they're farmland. The international zones inside the United States are going to be done away with. and the airport, since one way or another they're going to try to site some international BS, they'll probably be trying to use it as a war issue. Here's how it works. You tear the suckers right down, you pull up the cement, you make them either, I recommend making them into forests. Plant trees. I know guys, we can do cows there or something like that. No, no, no. Just reverse whatever it is that it's been used for. You don't want it flat and accessible. Granted, it's not a big deal to pull trees up, but make it real hard to use it for anything. The longer you can keep it as new forest or new plantings, the more secure and rooted it will be in being tree cover. When all the concrete gets busted up, all the international air drone buildings get knocked down, everything gets shredded, and we'll build new airports that are actually American airports. We can't argue, be under shadow of a doubt because they'll be on American soil, not on these international postage stamps they've created to screw this country and everybody else. Right now in the Ukraine, well, the troops seem to have figured out that they're being played. The Jewish Mafia just took over Kev as far as all of their bureaucracy with regard to the treasury. So that tells you that the feces birds have landed in force. 24 hours before they were assigned three foreign nationals, all Jewish mafia, were all of a sudden announced to be Ukrainians. Now these parasites have plopped right into the key positions to suck the money and the wealth out of, and what little wealth there is, out of the Ukraine. They're screwed if I were the cute Western Ukrainians walk in hang the management hang these foreign suckers hunt down every foreign sucker That's there hang them too What we're gonna have to do here the exact same way So as it is we got a lot of work to do not have time to get it all done It is weapons Wednesday, but I go through the basic list here of things that we just jumped out today That are definitely definitely worth checking in to guys Centrifier systems appear to have done away with their days of Christmas sales. They are pretty much into just their regular postings and whatever sales they've got going on. One item, they've got 100 rounds of 9mm steel case, boxer prime. It is 100 rounds for $20 in a little plastic tub bucket thing. It's new manufactured, apparently I guess Bosnian I think is what it said. Anyway, check it out. It's an interesting little cache of ammunition, 9mm and it'll work. By the way, that is a boxer prime even though it's a steel case, you collect it all because it can all be reloaded. So mark it as such, reloadable. Okay, now let's go to the shopping list so to speak. Number one. www.jgsales.com www.jgsales.com www.jgsales.com Take the time and go to the page and they have Christmas, they do have Christmas specials running still. Now we got a look, it's late in the game here so if you're going to do this you're going to want to do it right away. I know how that is. Mark's always saying, oh Mark do it right away. I don't know, I ain't out of money. Well sometimes if you got to go without eating a little bit I'd recommend doing that. Only because some of these sales are not going to stick. In other words, when they're gone, they're gone. And they're worthwhile. Now, you know I talked about the catamount of Chinese shotgun. I wasn't too excited about it. No, I'm not really super excited about it, except right now it's a reasonably priced combat package. Why? Well, the gun coming down in price was good, but the magazine's coming down in price is better. So here's the situation. The Catamount, some automatic, it's a knockoff of the Sega made by the communist Chinese. I do not know if anyone has done a part-to-part test or not. Too many people are usually busy fire booming the thing and going, oh I don't like this, or this happened, or that happened. Well the first thing is, can I get parts? And as far as I'm concerned, until I know more, I understand that the Catamount shotguns, they're some automatic, You want the cheapest one they're offering at JG sales which is the Catamount Fury 2, Sega pattern, semi-auto shotgun, 12 gauge, AK thumb hole style stock. It's got the Skeletize like an SVD type stock to the rear but it's plastic, it's polymer. And it comes with two mags for $400. Now that's not a bad price. That's actually where they should be if not a little cheaper, but that's true also of the Sega's. But because you can't get any more Sega's, look where the price went, right? The Russians have been blocked from all sorts of things. Well, the Catamount Furies are running $400 and take a look at them. I do not know if anybody has compared part for part to see what changes back and forth between the SAGAs, the Vepers, and the Catamounts because they're the closest in clone AK shotguns you can find between each other. Now, $400 is good, but what really makes this worthwhile right now is number one, a lot of people are looking for an affordable magazine-fed shotgun because they want that mag, okay? Well, here's the thing. Go over to Christmas Sales for Ammo and Gear. Now the shotgun is listed on the front page of the JG sales site, but it's also in the Christmas Sales dash Guns. Now go over to Christmas Sales dash Ammo and Gear and click that. Now when you get there, they don't have any shotgun shells on sale. First thing I was looking for, just see if this would be a one stop shop. But as it is, they have some reasonable prices on 12 gauge buck types. But the big thing is okay scroll down you got 32 ACP 35.57 ammo 38 ammo 40 40 caliber 44 mag 45 ACP 762 Tokra pistol ammo and actually is a good price That's actually worth picking up if you guys got me those nay got revolvers. They've got some they got ammo on sale for Christmas In addition that some 762 by 54 and then oh look cat him up fury 12 gauge 5 round mags Normally they go for $29.95 a piece, which is true. That's why I said, hey, the mags are as expensive as they are for a Sega or for a Vepr. Well, guess what? They have them for $10 a piece if you buy one. But that's not what makes this a really juicy deal. It's right below it where it says Catamount Fury to 12 gauge 5 round mags if you buy 10 or more They are $7 a piece. Now you see the price there at $30 and all of a sudden they are $7 a piece. That means you can now buy 4 of the mags for the price of what you were paying for one of the mags and in fact it is pretty well true of the Sega or the Vepra shotguns the same way. Right now that shotgun mag which will work in the catamount It's the razor blades kids. The razor is just a blade. It usually gives you a free razor or the price is cheaper but then the mags are a stupid price. Crazy price. Well right now that Catamount semi-auto shotgun is $400 with two mags. In addition to that, 10 mags or more, $7 a mag. I'd spend $70 at least right away getting 10 more mags. That's where you're going to save. Shotgun ammo, you can buy that anywhere. Wherever you can find the best price, Cabela sometimes has some pretty good sales or just a general flat price that matches everybody else and that works out just fine. So if you need a case of 12 gauge, go there if you think you want to or maybe you've got a local store that does a good job. Got some pretty good gun shops up in the middle of Michigan that sell pallets of ammo if they have it. And this catamount shotgun mag for $7 apiece. It means it's possible for you to put a whole combat load together for the price of less than an AR-15 mag, guys. And that's a good deal. That's why I'm bringing this up. Now the catamount, as far as I know, I do not know if you can get firing pins of the extractors. Those are my two chief peeves with any weapon. Can we get the spares for the things that we'll wear out? However, for a grab it and blaze with it shotgun that you can put in a cache or put in a 5.10 program to get everybody started and probably keep everybody running for a while, this is a nice package. Now it makes it worthwhile. Those mags for $7 a piece is the turnover on this gun. So the shotgun is the Catamount Fury 2. Those are available for $400, JGSales.com, same location, Catamount Fury 2, 12 gauge 5 round mags, over in the Christmas Special Section. They post an individual mag by itself, but then the item number 4-980 is the offering of 10 mags at $7 apiece. And again, that's just one item. Now, in the same section with regard to the guns. They have the Star Super Bs military post-war that was worked just fine semi-auto pistols with two mags for $220. So there's a personal hand cannon and yes you can get more mags for the model Super B and the rest of the stars if you look around they're out there. This is a straight in line magazine about the size of a 1911 kid's got a full-size slide full-size frame. But for 220, not a bad choice for a hand cannon. So there's your hand cannon, there's your shotgun. Now, that's all at JGSales.com, JGSales.com, JGSales.com. The mags are in the Christmas sales dash ammo and gear. The shotgun is right at the top of the list in Christmas sales dash guns. Next, I want to go to the other item that I've been harping on for the last day or two. For as long as it lasts, CBN and investments. has the and so far again let's point out I haven't seen any better price because of the package deal they are offering PTR 91's these are HK 91's slash G3 clones made in America and they're running $900 $899.99 or $0.95 I'll throw the penny or the nickel in whichever it takes and it's a $900 gun but The way the package works comes with a scope, comes with a scope mount, comes with a sling, and comes with 10 magazines and the rifle. Now, all of the rifles that are PTRs are all package deals right now at cdnninvestments.com or cdnnsports.com. When you get there go to the 308 rifles go to the PTR 90s PTR 91s do not get the folding stock don't worry about that and don't get the shorty barrel They're charging more for the pistol than if you got a full battle rifle with an 18 inch barrel get the 18 inch barrel guns first If the 18 inches run out then you go to the 16 But they've got wood black or green stocks your pick personally I'd go the wood or the green first and the black last because any color disrupts and breaks up the pattern. You can always even add some more paint, your choice, and make them even more purified with regard to camo. However, the package deal for 900, the 18 inch barrel is what you want, thick stocks, standard rifle, it's the classic as they call it or whatever. Now, more mags. Well it comes with 10 mags, so right off the bat if you spend that $900 you've got a basic combat load there guys. 1 mag in the rifle, 9 more mags to back up right away is pretty good, that's a start. And that's at cdnninvestments.com, cdnninvestments.com or cdnnsports.com. What you do is go to their rifle section, go to the Winchester, they'll have PTR 91 listed, there's a whole page of them. Every one of them comes with the mags, sling, the scope mount and the scope as part of the package. Now you take those off and the rifles then are around $800 a piece. Which means you're getting the gun for a good price because you got all the other goodies with it. That's a good come along there then. Next is mags. Now again there's a sale going on for Christmas and this is at www.royaltigerimports.com. They buy right from the same people we do. Wholesaler. There's only one Wholesaler who has these HK mags. These are the aluminum mags. They're fine. But Mark, the steelware better, yes, the steelware is really cool, but the aluminum ones work just fine. They work every time. They're military mags. They're not aftermarket mags. They're not copies. They're just, we're paying for those what we used to pay for the AK mags from the same company. Okay? There's nothing stranger, exotic about these mags. They're serviceable. They are perfect. Aluminum, again, buy 100 mags. If you are going to buy that rifle, buy 100 mags. Now I will do the math again for everybody. For what I can buy, one M14 mag between $14 and $24, $20 being about the average, I can buy one M14 mag or I can buy 20 PTR91 slash G3 military mags. If I had an FAL, it would cost me between $12 and $18 for an FAL mag for the cheaper ones. And let's see, oh that's right, I can get $12 to $18 of the PTR-91G3 military mags. I think I kind of beat the numbers right off the bat with the mags again. See how that works? The FALs are running up around $1,000 to $1,200 is what AIM Surplus has had. Their F and FALs are running right now. M1As right up and down the scale, whatever you can imagine in price. So the weapon itself, the PTR-91, is very reasonably priced because of the package deal. On top of that, it's the mags that beat out the choice. Now I was trained with the M14, I love the M14, you throw me an M14, I will kill you at 700 yards, I can still do that today just like, again I've repeated over and over again as a trained rifleman with the M14, how to operate it, how to break it down, how to maintain it, know its nuances, its advantages and issues that need to be dealt with. But if I was coming into this right now, looking at the over the counter prices, I recommend this PTR-91 package not just because of the rifle, but I like the rifle. All three of the basic weapons that are available from the Cold War, the M14, the FNFAL, and the HK. Right now the PTR-91s make the HK the most viable weapon and what really tops the cake are the mags. I can buy a pile of mags. I'm still going to buy the same 308 ball ammunition no matter which of those rifles. All three of them take the same ammo. I'll find out which ball ammo works best in my PTR-91 for the best price because I need cheapest for the mostest. But, it's the ammunition no matter what. I'm going to basically spend the same amount of money on it no matter what. Right? So then it's a matter of the cost of the rifle and the cost of the mags. If I were coming in right now, I'd go the PTR-91 because of those mags. Just like the catamount. Guys, usually when the price of a weapon is reasonable, the mags are a stupid price. you know, outrageous. And or if the mags are cheap, the weapon's not available. Well in this case, this is one of those few, you know, it's right on that wave point where we have both options connecting together. A reasonable price for the weapon and an excellent price for the mags. You see how that works? Now the ammunition factor, that's already, that math formula, we've been dealing with that for two years now. So we know where the problems are with ammo cost. Now the thing is to shop around and find the best .308 price and buy the living snot out of that as best you can. Now I would point out the PTR-91 and HK rifles were designed to handle steel case ammo. So buying a quality of that Wolf .308, that's ball, is a viable option and there are some steel case loads out there right now available for a better price than the average bear. Grab some of that right off the bat, experiment, see how you like it in that rifle, see how it prints. Of course if you also need some what we call burn ammunition, not for burning on the range, although that's really for familiarization. What I would start out with is somebody is 20 or 40 rounds, couple of mags, and we'd have them practice with the lesser ammunition to familiarize themselves. as their learning curve increases then we take another 20 or 40 rounds and we practice to see what we can punch in the way of paper at greater ranges. But again the idea is to keep your cost in training down every phase, every step of operations. So again for the PTR 91s you will be going to cdnninvestments.com For the magazines you go to RoyalTigerimports.com. Couple little tricks there. Number one right off the bat although I haven't looked. Portuguese are the most reasonably priced at about $12, $14 for the HK91. They'll be used and in fair to good condition. In other words they've been sharpened and beat down. But you know what, I found that they work. We've bought tons of them. Whoever has them, you'll probably find them in good condition right now, but what I've seen, price can be below $15 with a scabbard. So you want to pick up a bayonet for the HK91 slash PTR91 right away. That's one of the list of many things you want to grab. Another thing is that the cleaning kits, HK91 plastic, Goldie Green box cleaning kits, Those have been out there, they're reasonably priced, they'll fit any .308 rifle, but they're built for the HK specifically and they match up with the gun. Beyond that, it's personal choice or flavor choice on how you want to carry the weapon, if it's going to be a three point sling or if you're going to just go with the standard sling. A lot of our units, we do not use slings. Now that sounds strange, but that's part of a, you know, again, the individual unit policies are set up. The idea is the sling doesn't get in the way of the weapon. It's not something that's hanging around or something that can gym up on anything. You control the weapon, you will maintain control of the weapon, you're responsible for your personal firearm. So there again, it's a unit philosophy. They change from group to group. And we're not going to be able to be attentive. Everybody's going to learn their lesson or find their level when the time comes. First through training, then through direct application and open warfare on land battle in the United States. Another thing about the PTR-91 is lots of parts out there. There are lots of parts out there. As I said with the stock option, it's either go with the wood stocks or go with the OD green stocks first and then if those are all gone, then go black. Lastly, go with the black plastic. Reason? Anything that you have in the way of color will change up the weapons silhouette. And right off the bat, the wooden stocks are of course in the linseed oil type of color coloration slash finish the OD green speaks for itself and Little more paint a little more, you know off coloring of the receiver when you know, we're looking at battle a battlefield situation and the magazines here and there and you got yourself a subdued weapon that pretty much is gonna be broken up even if the paint chips off a little bit especially with those OD green stocks already built into the weapon itself and factory standard military standard by the way Other than that, it's a main battle rifle. It's a standard arm, it's a pretty decent weapon system, and it works. So stick with it, stay on course with it, and make your choice, whatever you're going to do. Now, even as I say this, I know we've talked about all the other weapons we've acquired. A lot of you guys have the PSLs, a lot of you guys have the Dragunov knockoffs, the Sega 308s. RPK guns of many types, as we know with long barrels. I want you to change those. The PAP of 77 in .308 is a beautiful weapon and I would love to have that weapon to carry, but I know that if I were to buy it, I'm going to be spending more money on each mag that I need for it. So again, the balance here is the basic weapon. Still have to acquire all the other goodies to make, you know, make it more of a sniper rifle, such as, you know, the scope mounts and the scope. With the PTR-91, Mark will get it right, we have the ability though to buy lots of cheap mags and to get you into a weapon system where I know that you'll have a footlocker full of mags, spare parts on hand, and all the other accoutrements you need. And there's a lot of other guys out there carrying the rifle, if not whole units. But it is again a personal flavor choice, kind of like this morning when we were talking about the Chevys and there were guys saying, well what about our Ford? It's like we love your Ford Broncos. I actually, here's the thing, I don't know why I was talking about this and it kind of brushed through people's minds because some people just, I hate Chevy's. Well, we're talking about the Chevy's because they are the most commonly available bulk truck out there. But one of the things that gives us a bit of an edge on that, as far as leaning towards it, it's kind of like these PTR's. The government bought a bunch of these things. There's a ton of them coming out of the auctions. There's a bunch of them laying across the countryside. So the Chevy makes sense. But on the other hand, some of you guys focused on the Fords and you're using a fleet of Ford Broncos and Ford trucks. That's fine. But again, like the Chevys, with the Fords, accumulate parts. We have Dodge trucks, guys. We have M715 Jeep Wagoners from the Vietnam era. the Vietnam Wagoneer. They are five quarter toners, they are the weapons carrier platform, they don't travel much past 47 miles per hour and that's about the best you're going to get out of them. They are geared for cross country use, not for highway. And that was intentional. They're considered a combat zone military vehicle and they are applied accordingly. Okay? So that's another thing to consider when you're looking at these vehicles that we discussed. Well it's the same with the weapons. How are you going to use it? Do you have access to parts, pieces and assemblies? What costs the most? What costs the least? And when you do the final math, which one makes the most sense for you? And again, at this moment in time, just like back when I was telling you guys to buy the snot out of the Sega's when they were cheap, and a lot of people listened. Some people thought, oh wait, because they're always going to be that price. Well, we know what happened to the Sega's. Now the cat amounts, I'm not expecting them to go up in extreme value or anything. The catamount shotguns I was talking about earlier fit a niche. And again, a couple of those for rear guard or hallway control or having them in racks or stash points where it's like grab this and point and pull. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, drop the mag, reintroduce the mag, release the bolt, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. The idea is you can hose down an area virtually saturated with a shotgun. Number four buck, I'll repeat again, I love number four buck. For some reason a bunch of number three buck has come through the system. There's Silly Billit slash Seller Billow. They have a bunch of number three buck that's popping in. You'll see some of the sporting goods shops. You'll see some of the jobbers in the shotgun news or in other locations with the different ammo companies. Just a flavor that happened to show up guys. Somebody had a pile of it. They loaded up a pile of it and it's in the market right now. Be as good as double lot or number four. I mean number three buckets in between. So it's a serviceable solution and definitely worth working with. If it's a good price, run with it. If it's expensive, it's not worth going out of the way for. If there's something cheaper in double outer number four, go that way. Why? More is better. I cannot stress that enough. Right now especially, more is better. For Christmas, same way. If you're going to be buying stuff cheapest for the mostest, the idea is if you're going to spend money on Christmas, this should be a heavy Christmas. That means more ammo, more mags. People who don't have weapons should have weapons. Again, younger old, everybody, no matter how young or old, you can still get them a pair of socks or a camouflage shirt or a new camouflage pair of pajamas, which by the way in a press situation you'd probably be wearing in the field because they're flannels. They're the new thick flannel Chinese stuff and they're real snugly warm so they make a good underlayer for combat operations and still camouflage. That's cool. Anyway, whatever you're going to do though, the other thing are tools. ammunition, mags, weapons, and tools. Combo tools, where something does more than one thing and can be applied to a number of different tasks. Definitely, definitely, definitely invest in tools. We need more. More is better. Keep grabbing what you can there. The equipment standards that we've established for a lot of the weapon systems that are presently in service with regard to the weapons I've mentioned, think the same way. If at all possible, try to track down a firing pin. Try to track down a spare extractor. Where possible, pick up another ejector. Some weapons have the ejector replaceable, others, not so much. So you need to do research on the weapon you're looking at acquiring and then act accordingly. Magazines, remember CDN investments, they're not the only ones but CDNN investments does have a lot of mags. So for those pistols where you need to add mags to an inventory you might want to check there. For surplus stuff, gunpartscorp.com, gunpartscorp.com or e-circoinc.com. e-sarcoinc.com. One of the things about the HK, little thing to remember, it's radical ejection time, kids. Don't be surprised at where the brass ends up. Get out on the range, you know, place that weapon, you know, from a standing shooter's position, place the weapon on the target, have another person observe your fire. And when you are familiarizing yourself with a weapon, have the other individual marking where the brass goes. Now one of the other things about the HK has a tendency to beat the brass up. We're going to warn you in advance about that. It's just the nature of the beast. has a tendency during ejection to slap the brass about halfway down to a third of the way down on the side of the case and create a little bit of a cross-temple perpendicular to the length. When you resize, it can be worked out to a degree. Typically people who reload HK brass know that when you fire, it's going to press that brass out wherever that dimple is, but you're going to get another dimple when you fire again. You're going to get another tag. This radical ejection is not an accident. It was very much intentional based upon the idea of a combination of a waffle pattern chamber to alleviate the possibility of adhesion between the steel case that the Germans planned on using and the steel chamber of the weapon. Radical extraction, of course, violent extraction guarantees no matter what kind of crude, rude powder they have to go to, which by the way the Germans are very experienced in doing. They know what their war production is going to be because they faced this in two world wars, World War I and World War II. After about six to eight months of World War I, steel case ammunition came into service pretty quick. In World War II, it was already in production in limited use for experienced development with manufacturers. By the time they went into a full all-out war in Europe, Steel Case became dominant and progressively replaced brass altogether, the brass being prioritized for other military production. So, again, the HK is designed to deal with Steel Case ammo, like the AK. In that respect, that's where you want to experiment. Get the Wolf ammunition, take your PTR-91 out, you don't have to buy a whole lot, grab yourself just, you know, several boxes. Load up some aluminum mags, take the weapon, load it, and one person can be observing you while you, again, for function and for viability with regard to the operation of the weapon while you're focusing on hitting the target. Nowadays, here's a little hint, cameras are cheap. And so filming your activity to evaluate the performance of the weapon, especially if a malfunction does show up. You're actually able to capture it digitally. You should be able to slow that image down to watch step by step what transpired. So there's no guessing. Now, this is why the camera should be set up on a tripod and the shooter should be marking out his position on the ground so that he does not break the parameter for the videotaping of the activity. Why? We want to evaluate it. Don't have the guy looking down range with the camera and looking back at the shooter. It's not for publication, for public consumption. It is for your purpose to evaluate the performance of your weapon. You can scrub the information when you're done, provide the web the ammunition functions flawlessly. The next thing you're looking at, obviously parallel with it, is performance on impact. How does that paper get cut? How does that target get pinged? And since we're first looking to see what type of accuracy and performance we want to cut paper to begin with, we can go to silhouette steel targets later. or target steel that focuses a tighter shot. But for the time being when you're first familiarizing you want to be cutting paper and you want to be precise about marking what's happening. Ideally you should bag the gun first, adjust the sights accordingly and then go to standing, kneeling and prone positions for experimentation with both the rifle and the ammunition. One of the most common mistakes made is not bagging the gun first to identify whether or not the weapon is even near being sighted in or if there are barrel issues. It's not likely, but let's put it this way. Why take a chance? Again, we want to know what we can do with this weapon. How far can we get it to reach? What kind of performance does it truly have? Now, one of the other neat things about these PTR-91 kits that are being offered is that they come with the optics. So, reaching greater range and using the optics to the best of your abilities, which apparently these have a lit reticle, they have a dial-up, horizontal and vertical control, so they're very, very much user-friendly for those of you who want to, again, adjust sights in the field. I have a tendency not to do that. Once I get battle sight zero, if I establish the sight zero at say 300 yards, Then I very quickly experiment with learning how to simply guess, not so much guesstimate, but zero, you know, mentally using a combination of Kentucky Adjustment and Windage and Elevation. By doing so, I can keep it on target and it reduces time or turnaround time to change between short, intermediate, and long range target contact. It doesn't mean you can't dial it out and that you won't be dialing out, but remember you have to mentally pay attention when you're using the scope because you need to dial the gun back. Once you've dialed it out, you've got to bring her back into BattleSite Zero for standard operations. See how that works? That's why in many cases a lot of guys will site over at short range. They won't even use the scope. They'll actually site over the scope for close range. They will use the scope and then use what we call the kneecap or belly button policy so that one way or another it stays within the silhouette and then zero at greater range for the extreme target. That is another consideration with regard to the type of battlefield. Where are you? What are you doing with the weapon? The battle rifles, MBRs are battlefield supremacy weapons people. I don't want to be equal to my enemy. I want to be superior to my enemy. When it comes to the operations on the battlefield, I want to hit him so far out he can't be sure where the bullet came from. I want to be able to select the target and put them to ground. This is something I've harped on for many years. Guys, if you can engage at twice the range of your enemy and your whole unit can do that. You put to ground that formation before they get to their optimal range, they will return fire with ineffective result. wasting their battle, their combat or battlefield load. Meanwhile, you are suppressing and or neutralizing them with minimal firepower consumption but maximum accurate result. Remember, we want by the time we're done them to remember this war for the battle of the militia riflemen. The performance of the militia riflemen. We want to strike fear. into our enemy with regard to the American militia riflemen. Accuracy over volume fire. Accuracy over volume fire. When a whole formation is firing minimally and maximum end result is taking place, They can burn whole mags trying to suppress and I guarantee they will by the time they're done the heartburn factor will be so high that they'll be just be literally will be spraying and praying in the hopes that somehow they can break the cycle. Focusing on accuracy and you know again precision hit, minimal consumption means you can sustain the battle longer. Now to make them feel good, we can sprinkle in a combined arms team like we did in World War II, and we'll have a few weapons that consume a little more ammo and can carry more. That's where the AR-15 really comes in. A couple of guys carrying, or half the unit carrying, AR-15s and piles of mags and drums can throw suppression fire out there to make them think that they're dealing with an equal foe. But those big boomers going off when you pull the trigger the reason you're pulling the trigger is to put a target down Now you're a 300 wind deer rifle your 7mm Remington mag deer rifle your 8mm. Whatever you got doesn't mean it's what it is That's a good starter. Anyway, you may decide that you don't even want to use the gas gun only because You've killed Bambi for how many years this season how many deer did you kill? How badly did they die? Did that out 6, crush his shoulder and go on through? If you aim for the crotch of an enemy and you hit him in the groin or the thigh or even a low shot accidentally on the knee, is that target going to be able to continue to engage you? Yes or no? You all know the answer. You saw it happen to Bambi. Think a biped is going to get up and start springing around with a hole the size of a fist through it, you know, through it? Especially in the groin area? Come on. They'd laugh about doing that to you. You better plan on doing it to them. Just that simple. So anyway, we've got a lot of work to do, but this is a great Christmas opportunity. Let's make it a heavy Christmas. Ammunition for everyone, magazines where applicable, throwing some other goodies here and there, you know, some light dollar store stuff that makes sense. You know, just to fill in the Christmas stocking, I know idea, or just to puff up the present a little bit. How's that sound? Spare socks. Well, that's not exciting. Yeah, but look the way it's getting outside. Spare socks are nice. Anyway, we've got a drawing coming up. Give me before we go. Liberty Tree Radio dot 4mp dot com. Ten dollars. Get the end of the drawing. I want to say thank you to the people who just entered the drawing today. I saw that in our mail. For everybody out there, go to www.limitingtreatyradio.4mg.com. $10, get your name in the hat and five times. Also, mail in a donation to PBS P.O. Box 194, Dexter, Michigan, 48130. 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