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You don't need to worry about having a military surplus store in your area because MainMilitary.com is the only store you'll ever need, all from the comfort of your computer. Visit them online today at MainMilitary.com. That's Main, like the state, Military.com. I had a dream the other night that Well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money is spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave. O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now his tyrants trample each God given right we only watch him tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave is this still the land of the free? and good evening ladies and gentlemen this is the evening intelligence report of our party and i'm donald butcher one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines and occupied territories west southwest east and northwest ladies and gentlemen you're listening to us on liberty tree radio dot four m g dot com indiana freedom talk radio dot com running but if i micro station cb base stations and alternate hallmark and golden spike technologies east and west of the mississippi along with alaska good afternoon slash evening for our friends out there in the great state of jefferson there's two hours behind us and it's Don, what's the date today? What's the conditions like up there where you are? And what is jumping off the wall up there, please? Oh, it was a beautiful day. This is the tenth day of December, year of our Lord, 2014. It wasn't too cold and it wasn't too hot. It was just... I had to do that, Mark. But again, a beautiful day for the tenth of December. We could be up to our hips in snow and the... thing in the thermometer could be way below zero was, hey, I think we got real close to freezing today. Again, the 10th day of December. It is a particular day though and I have to say, God bless John Moses Browning with 1911 in one hand and an empty magazine well and magazine in the other hand. Yeah, insert the magazine into the magazine well alleviating the void of a problem. touch that slide release and there's no longer a void in the chamber and yeah yeah there's one in the chamber now we can say that that's a condition one gun that's a hot gun but it is weapons but they the perimeter is secure and there's plenty more where that came from and that means we can offer equal opportunity go or suit force and cannon in a holster light rifle or main battle rifle at your shoulder a number of sharp objects personal fighting knives The option for a machete or a tomahawk or a personal close-in but extension weapon of some kind that also serves as a tool. These are the basics that we're looking at to be able to deploy in the field. Now there's a big debate for years. I didn't even bother getting into it. It just works this way about carrying a handgun or not carrying a handgun. Carry one. Real simple. Can you make another weapon out of dirt? Well, now it doesn't work that way. Throwing objects works. We have grenades for that, by the way. But the big argument is, rather than carrying that handgun, you can be carrying two more mags ammo. Oh hell, I'll carry that handgun. Four, five, or six mags, and I'll still carry those other two mags. Okay? For the rifle. See, that's what's fascinating to me is that attitude. It's like, no. First of all, the objective is to be able to continue to contribute to the engagement. Some malfunctions with the weapons and the ammunition, there's a number of different reasons I take this philosophy, dictate that I have to be carrying another weapon as an insurance policy. Now, why? Well, here's something I have addressed in the past that I have brought up and people have asked questions about this. Could they sabotage the brass or could they sabotage ammo or could this happen with the ammo or that? It's always been the same thing about part of the, it's bad! Oh my god, nobody thought of this. We've already thought of this. What do you think? How many times have you heard me repeat one basic rule, ball ammo? Number one, ball ammo. And by the way, number two, ball ammo. And by the way, number three, ball ammo. Why? First of all, commonality, simplicity. There is still the possibility though of not because of it doesn't have to be a plan to do something to you. It's just that some companies, countries or production periods are more sophisticated, reliable, accurate, whatever term you want to use, than others. And at different times, even the most expensive ammo companies have put a primer in backwards. How do I know this? Well, I just had people show me here in the last what year, you know, ammo they paid, you know, $30 for 25 rounds and they opened the box and there's one cartridge in there with a reverse primer. you would expect higher standards of quality control in a situation like that with a highly custom round built for whatever special purpose they described. So it's just the idea that in the event you have, what is a locked up failure that simply can't be dealt with if you are in the middle of contact of any kind, being able to switch to the handgun instantly. In other words, I've tried to clear, I've tried to clear, I've tried to clear. Putting a ramrod down the barrel while other people are trying to kill the people that I know and probably trying to kill me, it'd probably be a better idea to switch over to the weapon that still works. until you can get to another bigger weapon that reaches farther. Exactly. You see how that works? It's not all the times that everything goes perfectly. Just standard factory production, the wrong combination of parts, the wrong moment in time, and you're sucking vapors and it's an immediate action drill that you better get used to which is retrieving your handgun to save your life. Okay, it's just that simple or to save one of your friends lives. You always see that in the movie town with a oh everything's in slow motion and Well, uh, you just weapon jammed and Frank was being accosted by the zombies the enemy infantry the barbarian horde taking pick what it is Okay. Well, how about it Frank? Oh, wait a minute Okay, Frank get over here with us. Okay, it'll probably mark you see how that works Wow, instead of the, uh, in the time it took for you to go, ahh, it could be out of holster, aim, bop, bop, bop, bop, point and click. Works much better. Yeah, that's a much better movie variant. Wouldn't you say? And it's better for Frank. It's over so much. Frank doesn't hurt so much and probably will continue to fight too because, well, if he's lucky, he's scarfed up his weapon. I don't know how he lost it, but even if he did, even if he did, here's the other thing. We get Frank back to, you know, our line here, so to speak, our side of where he should have been. Frank didn't come back with this weapon. Now guys, if I still have an effective rifle and Frank rolls back here, kind of bare butt naked and hanging in the breeze, wouldn't it be nice to just be able to reach over to my side and say, here Frank, you know how to use it? Yup. Isn't the most stupid part of a lot of movies when people drop their guns and don't pick them up or don't pick up the bad guys' weapons? Right, and why wouldn't they? They have plenty of time to have dialogue. Yeah. That's conditioning to all of you. Seriously, that's why I brought this up time and again. Common sense is, not only would you be grabbing the weapon, hey wait, but he's running away from me. I killed this other guy. He's got this rifle that he shot me in the leg with. If I pick the rifle up and I point at the bad guy and I aim for his butt cheeks, do you think I can hit him at 25, maybe 30 yards? Oh yeah. But that kind of ends the whole action movie right there, doesn't it? At least for that particular character. Oh yeah. See, that's what they're... You're absolutely right. This is one of those many things that's like, oh, gone. Or how many times, oh my god, the woman has the time to have some comment or diatribe. She's being attacked or accosted and somebody else's, you know, for whatever reason, bumped the other guy over the head. And the guy had web gear, a rifle, a handgun, he was ready to shoot her, blow her brains out, he pulled his pistol out. He was going slow-mo because he wanted to take his time and make it agonizing. And he just gets the barrel to her head and plop. Hey guys. Think about it. Go ahead, call the superintendent. I think I might have discovered the deal on their main page and two different complete lowers the adjustable 139 the one with the magpole 199 I mean like 19 rather 2003 That's like 2003 man. I'm having a flashback an AR an AR 15 m16 pattern type variant gun for like six hundred and thirteen dollars Oh, well if you go to 139 complete I'd go at 139. Yeah, that'd be the cheapest for the mostest guys. Oh, absolutely. $100, you'll end up paying the... And that's surplus ammo dot com? For the complete lower. And then classic firearms, www.classicfirearms.com? For the complete upper. Here's the way down on their main. Hey, that complete lower would be a real handy thing if you had a 50 upper, wouldn't it? There's a dirt cheap bath to a 50. Merry Christmas, gentlemen. Thank you very much. Again, for everybody out there that is Classic Firearms, they have the upper, Classic Firearms dot com, www.classicfirearms.com, and the other is www.surplusammo.com, looking at SA-15 Grim Reaper. They're 15 complete lower from the same site with collapsing stock for $179. So they've got a number of different ones. $139 for the cheapest, I believe. And then they go to $159, $179. Now, whether or not they're in stock, oh, you've got to watch that. You've got to be careful with these companies. Oh, maximum purchase allowed three units at a time. They probably got a few of them. That's good on the lowers on the 179 model, but I'd go the 139. Seriously, I've said cheapest, foremostest. Right now, you're looking at Christmas tree items. Remember, every dollar you save is more heavy metal under the Christmas tree. Hey, that's 40 bucks. That's a pouch full of mags, ain't it? Yes, that is or that or again a whole bunch of ammo at least enough to fill a few more mags and you or a combination of the above or a Banette or all the accoutrements, you know cleaning kits that's for extra gear Whatever you're gonna do tuning and that $40 really does count especially if you watch the clearance and closeouts can't emphasize that enough Go ahead color jump in there. Isn't while also arms of America arms of America calm They've got receivers on it. They've got your 223, your AR-15. Lower receivers for $61.99 stripped. And then the Anderson. And then the lower parts kit itself is $50 on there too. Plus they have all the receiver blanks in the AK Builder receiver blank drilling kit to fix here. Put the receivers in for your AKs and 47s and 74s. Plus they have a ton of parts kits and even have sagas for seven eight hundred dollars eight hundred dollars for second shotgun. So Wow Thank you. I have two or three two or three sagas hanging around the house Is a good thing if you have zombies or the old board coming your way. Oh, yeah. Oh, absolutely So right now there's magazines available still for the sagas and since the guns are not as Available other than finding somebody that's got them used and there's the four tens, but that's about it everything else is sold up and out. They were still in stock here. Yeah, if you can get parts and mags, mags are available because these are American companies that have been making the mags. Put a pile of mags next to that shotgun and that's definitely a hallway stopper. That's a stacker but the door stopper. Oh, and what? Oh, kind of reload the magazine. Yeah, the other day I told you about the magazine, do you have the 7400 or the 742s? You can get the Madsen 30 round clips, five of them for $45 through gun parts out of West Early. Then what you do is you cut the tops of the four rounders off and you use the follower from the four rounder and you use the spring out of the Madsen and it works pretty slick and you make a 30 round for 30 odd six 7400. Put a bipod on that bad boy and it sits right up there pretty slick. Excellent. And there are again a number of different options too with regard to fixtures accoutrements To dress out the weapon however you want because somebody usually is like well I want to do it a certain way guys We're not all we're saying is get the basics out there However you want to dress her up if you want a spoiler on your on your Nova put a spoiler on your Nova If you want a wind scoop on your hood put a wind scoop on your hood well Same with the AR 15 or any of these other weapons that are out there any of the build kits for the AKs Whatever is your heart's desire, maybe you got one right now, you can match that rifle up piece for piece if you're patient and look around, because it's out there. It's just a matter of, again, taking the time and perusing the keyboard nowadays. At least you don't have to drive to 50 states, you know, or 48. There's not much in Alaska and nothing in Hawaii. I should always qualify that. So just something to think about there. Anything else? Jump in there, please. Go ahead. I'll let you guys know about that. God bless you. I'll take it easy. Thank you, sir. One of the things that has disappeared again, mostly again replacement, is the Polymer receivers are out there, but a lot of the companies that have had them have sold out recently. Here we go. Just as a heads up, here's probably the best example of the cheapest, cheapest of the cheapest of absolutely the cheapest. Complete lower, as I've mentioned many times, it's the new Frontier Armory LW-15 Gen 2 complete AR-15 Polymer lower receiver in black. Now this requires an FFL, but this is stock, internals, pistol grip, everything on it, all you do is pin an upper to it, $109.95. That's your Hello Kitty rifle basic there guys. That's where the Hello Kitty parts go. Because with the upper receiver, the cheapest one you can find and one of these, or aluminum, you go for another, what, $30. You can go with aluminum as was just pointed out by BC here. This is, by the way, the Polymer Lower for that price is Joe Bob Outfitters. They still have them. They're in the scroll. I better be safe on this one. Let's double check to make sure. Usually they do tell you if they're available or not, but let's be safe Looks like they have them in stock. So yes mark was right. I didn't I didn't mislead you would try to deceive you know I wasn't trying to deceive anybody. I just figured it have them well they do so the good thing is they're in stock and That's the new frontier armory. Oh w15 gen 2 complete ar-15 polymer-lower receiver group for 109 95 there's $110 pretty cool I can't complain about that at all. They do have a number of other parts. That's another one of like many of the companies our friends here just mentioned. If you go down through the scroll, there's a little bit of everything and you name it, you're going to have to sort through it because every part you can imagine for the AR-10, the AR-15, Joe Bob's covers it. And any price you want to pay, if you think you need a more expensive receiver, Don't worry, there are plenty of them out there to choose from and you can spend as much for a stripped lower receiver as you would for one of the middle-end complete lower receivers with every part on it, guys. I'm looking at $250, $260. Don, whatever money you want to spend, people will take it. Go ahead, color-chimp in there. Yeah, I would check. I wrote down the websites, the Arms of America and surplus ammo he mentioned, but I can't remember the other one he mentioned. Did you get it mentioned? The BC just mentioned or the other color? The color. Oh, you know what? No, I didn't write it down. Hold on here. The guys in the chat room may have put it in though. Forgive me. Armsofamerica.com. Got that. Okay, Arms of America is the one that he was mentioning. ArmsofAmerica.com. That's where the brand new original Pepper Barrel, 16.5 inch surplus ammo you got and Classic Firearms. So those are the... That was it. ClassicFirearms.com. ClassicFirearms.com. That's for the upper. Thank you. There we go. Okay, you appreciate it. You see, we can find the answer one way or another. All we're going to do is just scroll through. The other thing there too again, shop around for the small parts. CBN and Investments and Copes Distributing have had some nice magazine sales for AR-15 mags. Do your Christmas shopping in the sales section. If you're going to buy mags for the girls, grab the 20 rounders. Remember if they're littler people, those 20 rounders are lighter and easier to handle in general. So, just a quick slap, you know, pop for them and it keeps the weapon a little tighter, closer and shorter anyway, which is a good thing for smaller frames. Remember, you can't just think length, you've got to think height also. So, again, center of balance, the whole nine yards. Anyway, we've got Don, I hope still. Oh yeah, there we go. Okay, Don, before we go any farther, we're at the bottom of the hour. So, we're going to have our bottom of the hour. Don has night vision technology. Look outside, it's dark. It's actually 50-50 cloud cover, although I think it's been rolling in with a front that kind of is going to keep our heat in again. We have not, we've got, don't have snow, haven't had freeze. They're not real major. We're right on the edge of freeze. It's been up and down, up and down a little bit. We're right on the edge of freeze. But it's dark. So Don, Night Vision Technology, you have it? What's available? And how can we get ahold of it, please? Well, we've got a first generation gunsight. The entry level green screen, everything else in entry level is white light out of the device now. Everything below that. I've got a first generation green screen. Now we've addressed the green light issue. White light on your face at night is not a good thing. You guys, I'm pretty certain we can all agree on that. It catches your eye, it stands out to a piece of night vision, it can generally make your day, or rather, your night really miserable. Now with that in mind, the green light that comes out of a real piece of night vision, you guys, is almost invisible to another piece of night vision and not nearly as discernible to the human eye as white light. I've got a first generation gun sight for power. It's .308 capable, it will live on top of your AR-10. Hooray. It is a purpose-built gun sight. I can put it in your mailbox for $390. That's everything that the manufacturer puts in the box and sends you at the same time, but it's cheaper than what he wants. My phone number is 231-796-8458. We can go up to a second generation viewer or a second generation gun sight. the viewer right in your mailbox $980. The gun site right in your mailbox $1,245 right in your mailbox. My phone number is 231-796-8458. If you're looking for a piece of thermal, a handheld piece of thermal, not a gun site, a simple viewer. I can put one right in your mailbox for $1,890 right in your mailbox. My phone number is 231-796. 8 4 5 8 2 3 1 7 9 6 5 8 Thank you, Mark. I heard a number of beeps. Maybe we've got another caller perhaps maybe kind of sorta. Clary, do we have another caller? Okay with that in mind. Hey before I don't know if we'll go to a break it would be good to hear oh the rifle and this is my rifle on a weapons Wednesday. It used to be a regular. We ought to bring that around every now and then or something like my little arm-a-light. How many of them can we make die? Here we go. Thank you Eddie. Iodine protection packs from hemp you. What fun it is to the Red Coast, what mind you man this fills in our valleys There is danger, and there's danger in our hills Oh, here you're not just singing of the view, though wild and free Soon you'll know the ringing of the rifle from the tree Oh, the rifle, oh, the rifle In our hands, the fruit of no frightful You may ride a good late speed, you may not stern a master. You forward march with speed, but you'll learn to back much faster when you meet our mountain boys. And the leader jot a start. Glad you make what little noise and always hit the mark. Oh, the rifle, oh, the rifle. In our hands, we'll prove no frightful. Maggi no graves at home, back across the briney water, and giddy must come like, well it's a two-de-slaughter, but it's way the jaws must do, and the sooner it is begun. If Lyndon's figure holds a bus through, the quicker it will be done. Hold the rifle, hold the rifle. In our hands, we'll prove no to rifle. Hold the rifle, hold the rifle. In our hands, we'll prove no to rifle. And again, today, the 10th of 2014. I like hearing those. As a matter of fact, again, oh wow, with all of the situations developing that we have seen, it is obvious that we are going to be counting on the individual riflemen to preserve our liberty. And that means you need to develop your skills as a rifleman. When that song was developed, guys, remember, the musket. Why weren't they singing, oh, the musket? Oh, the marksman! The rifle was the marksman's weapon, the precision rifleman, the combat, the volume fire weapon of his day also, to a degree, but actually, that varied too. Later on, a little more success, but the rifle weapons, the argument was they tended to foul. because of the rifling, they could be fouled sooner as far as causing problems for loading. That's an up or down question, varying depending upon maintenance and operation. And most riflemen, because they were invested or they were issued and invested in with a little more precision arm and more money and the prestige. They had a tendency to also, oh I know these are French words, they also had a little more espouille de corps with regard to their maintenance and operations and their performance. The words, you know, riflemen or brave rifles, as you see on many of the old army, the old army, first army, second army, third army, if you look at the old division markers, you'll notice that the unit patches in the unit crest contain the word rifle or rifleman. There's a reason. That was like saying Special Forces back in the day. You were a rifleman? Yeah, I was with Morris's Rifles. Yeah, we were at Georgetown. Yeah, we were at Campbelltown too. And by the way, we fought up there over in the Montreal area. That was a horrible march. I didn't get much shooting in there, but I got enough. The whole idea that the riflemen were the fire brigade, they were the ones who had plugged the line. They were the ones who could put down the enemy where they needed to be quick and at distance. Also rifle units typically were on standby wherever there was a breach in the line or the defensive grid as something was developing. And accuracy over volume fire accuracy. If you hit them and kill them you don't have to kind of generally throw a musket ball towards them. Right? If you just, wow, he's gone. Yeah, he won't be getting back up right away either. He's down. Yeah, he's down. That'll settle it real quick. So just something to think about there. And again, the rifleman, that key, we need to make that as an important phrase today as it was then. We need to make the bad guys on the other side understand that our rifleman will be feared. It's that simple. Oh, you're dealing with Americans. Well, remember they had decided, in fact, it was kind of like a standing order. You can't use it. They don't use machine guns. They use them bolt-deer rifles, and it's kind of messy. We lost a lot of people. Why do you think we scraped you up from over there in the stands and brought you over here? And they didn't fire a lot of bullets. Yeah, there's not a whole lot of noise in these firefights, but a lot of screaming. Well, there's that. That is noise. Now, I would point something out again because, let me give you an example. Look at the websites we just popped in here. Just in half an hour. And I'm looking right now at Surplus Ammo. They have a discontinued upper receiver section where the more expensive receivers are down in price a little bit or by a few dollars, not by much, but a few dollars here or a hundred dollars there. It depends on what it is. and it includes bolt carrier and charging handle but we're talking pricier mid-priced which you know that's where you're getting into Oldsmobile and Buick rather than Chevy you know but not quite Cadillac well the thing is that as I pointed out time and again why everybody's going you know we're going to take and you know the people said well you need to get those government guard national guard armories and this and that and the other and my point is why You know if you take a look you people have a better firearm in your hands if you're building an AR-15 if you're building one of the chipmunk semi-auto rifles You are building and have probably built better weapons than the army will ever see in any of those arsenals They're not worth your time That sounds harsh, but it's a fact How many of you handle your weapons or able to take your weapons at your discretion any minute of the day? If you're at home, you can walk over and just grab your weapon right there and you can take it out to the range out back or you can disassemble it on the kitchen table. You can do that any day, can't you? Do you think that any of those clunker weapons that are in the arsenal get that kind of maintenance and get that kind of care? Doesn't mean they aren't good rifles or good rifles, but you guys have all built vector rifles. That's why you're gonna be kind of you know like down the road here after you've been kind of pampered to all these really high-tech You know well, you know can well well structured built manufactured special names, you know special materials You're pampered right now, but when you're capturing the enemy's weapons, it's gonna be like man. This is kind of like clunky It's got pock marks. The finishes is kind of piss-poor There's there's casting marks Well, that's because most of those government weapons are built by what the lowest bidder guys run with it in the damn thing rattles Yeah, and whereas take a look at just the options here I mean I'm looking at my you know my attitude is I'm getting pissed because I'm not seeing enough 20 inch barrels anywhere And I know that's what they're pushing because it's cheaper. It's not because it's better. It's cheaper But the 16 inch barrel, okay, that's cool. Like I said, if you're building a girl gun right now, I'd find the lightest weight cheapest AR-15 upper receiver group with a bolt carrier and a charging handle, slap it on the cheapest lower we got and make yourself again a Hello Kitty gun. So I don't have a problem. There are applications of 16-inch barrels. We're going to have to use them. There's just too many them out there. Okay, they're out there. People will eventually start to realize what I'm talking about and then start to go, why have you got a problem with this? Why is it they're reaching farther and hitting better? They're hitting harder. Well, it's because you've got the right tool in the toolbox. But we'll still apply all of these other tools because there's a myriad of people who will need them. But your weapon, no matter what you built, and I know even as I said that, Mark, my M4 is as good as anything the government has. No, your M4 is probably superior to everything the government has. Even those units that are the quote unquote elite units, they may have spent a little money on receivers, and then again, maybe they didn't. They've been told they can dress it up. But they've still got the same basic weapons platform that you guys have or that their counterparts have in any regular unit. There's all kinds of receivers. I just said you can spend $300, $400 on a lower receiver. It's forged, it's or machined from billet, it's sculpted in different ways. There's other things they can do, but the basic functions still have to link up with all the standard parts. So again, Is government going out and doing that all the time? No, I do know that their contracting work out because they have silencers and things like that. We know that. Okay. You can do as well as they're doing in that category without any problem at all and without the government money and you know the price being twice what it should be because they are getting a government contract. The big thing here is you have confidence in your weapon. You personally sculpted the gun to your specs. and your weapon is better than. I will never say, oh it's just equal to. No it's not. You can make that weapon do whatever you want. You can put any optics on it. I'm a firm believer in bigger optics. I know, oh we need a smaller, tinier, shorter. No, just reverse. I want to be able to count the pimples on his face to pick which one I'm going to shoot. That varmint gun, that varmint rifle, if I do apply it as a sniper rifle within its potential, Mayor 15 is a kick butt no recoil weapon with quick follow up guys. I should be able to down three before they figure out what I'm actually doing in already changing locations. There should be three bullets going down range and I'm already gone. You know, he's already gone. Remember? Yeah. Well, the whole point here again is take a look at some of these items and figure how many Americans have these. Oh, wow. Wait a minute. Oh, that's right. Think about how many of these have been built just in the last year that are now in our hands. And that's just the ARs. And again, there are just as many AKs and AK builder crews out there that have been building AKs that really put a lot of the stuff that's commercially available to shame because people are spending whatever money you can imagine. Some people are bending their own receivers and they're not going to original mil-spec, they're going beyond it. So there's different groups with different ideas about how to do it. Now, you can fold an AK-47 receiver from the street sign out on the road, guys. Ever think about that? If I needed sheet metal, where would I go? And all the street signs are gone, so the bad guys don't know what's going on on the road when they are heading down it. And if they want to go full speed, then they'll drive right into whatever you set up down there too. Because none of the markers are where they should be, and they're all being scraped and re-bent and turned into what we call grade B-A-Ks. Wow. That'd be kind of fun, wouldn't it? Yeah, you know it will be. And don't think we won't be doing stuff like that. We will. Now, another thing real quick, Don, you mentioned 50s. We have got to get back with Watson's weapons because he was going to test the polymer receivers on the 50s and we might have to jog his memory but I'd like to find out more about that, wouldn't you? Oh yes. I should try to make that contact tomorrow. What's important here is again we've already talked about the use of the polymer receivers to lighten the load for the old and the young or for just carrying a second five, you know, a five pound rifle. Guys, think about that. Every time I say that, it's like, you know, that was the big, even with a car 15, you're still at about 7 pounds. But the fact that finally deciding that they could go with polymers for the receivers, and they still haven't come out with an upper again like they did back in 99. And I believe that that's rather fascinating because they already built them, they already worked. There's guys that have these that were sold back in the day. And back in 99, guys were putting 10,000-20,000 rounds through those polymer upper and lowers, and they were seeing no significant change in performance. Now the polymer lowers have reappeared, but the polymer uppers have not. Now that couldn't shave off too much of a weight down, but at least you probably knocked it down by another quarter pound or so. It'd be kind of fun. Well, but then you could carry another pistol. Yeah. yeah actually you know and that's true because now with the polymer pistols and or the lightweight pocket pistols are out there caltech makes a rueger makes them you know that's another thing that you know remember they we brought brought up that uh... the you've got these little look like baby clocks and they're convenient their real simple pocket pistols but you know what in nine millimeter three eighty auto will save your life Oh yeah. And that's one of those things taken into consideration. Again, it would save your life. If it was a pilot, I'd carry three clocks. If I was a pilot, I'd carry three clocks. Only because, lightweight, all common for mags, I'd carry one mag and lots of them and I'd carry buckets of mags. Even that little Beretta 25, that little slide gun, it's an unusual slide gun. If you ever get a chance to pick one up, they offer it in 22 long rifle. Pretty little gun handy you poke that in someone's face and knock two out He's probably not going to be wanting to argue with you. It might not be a good idea to proceed Yeah, which they very quickly understand Hello, Mark Gordia color jump in there. Oh, yeah. Hey, this is Tex mix I had a question I have an M1A and I've been pretty much getting stuff on the internet and saying I can get improvement the the gas The The newer idea, which actually is not that new, it was used with a lot of competition shooters who had their own custom guns on the range for competition, campari, things like that. The shimming system is the easiest, and again, when it comes time, if you ever have to do it again, easiest to rebuild, to replace and maybe have to expand the shims, or increase the spec. Remember that at a given point you are going to change the op rod if it continues. If it's functioning right now, I mean all you're trying to do is figure out what you're going to bring it down by a half. Yeah, I'll probably end up with an M1A and a 1.5 inch. I'd be more happy. The thing about it is that, like I said before, one of the considerations, if you take a look at your op rod, if you feel like your gas system is getting a little loose, take a look at the op rod. Have you inspected it recently? Yes, okay, it's got a good crisp edge on it, right? Yes, everything's good. Yeah, okay You know I got the guy got it from hardly ever shot it you know and and I've I've been using it recently and what are you sending downrange? Oh ball no jacket, uh, actually is in South African Change your load go out and buy a box of 20 and see if that buy a box of 20 like federal And see if that don't cut your groups. Yeah, okay In fact, Amelman.com has had some pretty good buys, but... Don't buy a thousand yet. Yeah, UN ammo would be enough. Yeah, I'm trying to think of where you could buy a couple boxes without going crazy price-wise. AIM Surplus. Check to see what AIM Surplus has in 308. They may have some Federal and they might have some Lake City on the shelf right now, too. Yeah. You might be grinning when you're done with that box. Yeah. South Africa's good ammo, but remember it's a military field grade. Half of it is just tightening it up with a cartridge for performance. Easily you can do that. We've talked about this in 22 a lot of different ways. If you want to get smaller groups out of your 22, try a different load. It may very well work for you here, Tex. Like I was saying, a guy named Tony Ben III, he goes over a gas lock. It's not real. He said, the best you know my help. Right an armor would take about 15 seconds to install I mean for him to do it. Yeah. You know the military armor used to take our you know we have to take the 14s back to the armorers vans usually I'd two them off the range and they would do a quick tune up on the rifle right there for us if we thought we suspect anything they do it you know kind of under the hood thing. and the barrel shimming I mean everything is right there on the rack they'd be one two three one two three one two three four five and back stock back on here you put the trigger group back in and congratulations done and so it's not hard it's not hard it's just again following the... No I looked pretty easy he showed instruction on how to do it I looked pretty easy I mean there are castle nut vice grips you know you can do a granite on it nut lock on the you know is it necessary aligns it or became all the ocean political which should lock right back in the station but remember again they see the guy don't know what the guides are anymore they used to be a two-foot two-step tool that you had for that one was a uh... an armorers uh... trough that actually lines with the barrel in the uh... picture and then you have the branch which of course it applies particular energy uniformly I don't know if that's too unique. I doubt that that's out there. But it should line right back up. I don't see that being a particular problem. The guy he is was just something he... When you do it, it will mark it anyway to confirm start and finish. But it's going to start at the same point threadwise and it's going to end as far as torque to the final station. Oh I see, that's good. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, put a piece of gold, you know, like taking a little piece of fingernail polish, you know, dip, dip, you know, to line up to confirm that everything's right, just to see if something is amiss. And the question would be, is the brain guide, you know, the part that's always been a funny question there are certain things that have NM on them that way you just wonder whether or not they're absolutely needed. That goes back as far as when I was a young man, it was like, that's just a dust cover for a site, isn't it? Yeah, but it's like twice as much because it says NM. Well, yeah. Well, do I really need an NM dust cover for my NM national sites? Well, it really doesn't do anything. It's like, well, in this case, the guys do, I mean, if it's tighter, crisper spec, Again, how long is it going to last like that? If your field grade is already working, I wouldn't change that much of it right now. At this point in time, if I were to do it, if I take it offline, you don't want to keep any weapon offline for very long right now. The issue is it's functioning. I think like Don said, I'd try other ammo in it first. because the South African ammo was good but it was made by a country that was at war and was pressed in service in terms of production. Some of that was made by flinchchester and went over there and then got brought back here to be sold. But a big chunk of it are sas battle, you know, special air service but they're their version of it but it's South African battle packs typically 200 or 300. I don't know if you got a battle pack or just get in boxes. Oh, it's in battle packs. I've got some Portuguese in the thousand rounds of battle packs, but I was kind of saving that for a special day. The Portuguese is tighter than the SA, I know that. Again, I would like to try a box of Winchester ball, try a box of Federal ball, and do a print, put a button on the bag, settle the gun, take your time, and cut a couple pieces of paper to see what the difference is. and compare that to actually just do a couple of five round groups with your SA just to be safe, just to demonstrate. And have you guys ever heard of this new stuff from Turkey? It's CQ ammo? One I think or something like that. What are they, okay I haven't seen that yet. I might have been passing but it doesn't jump out at me. Is it rifle ammo, pistol ammo or what? No, no, it's 308. well if they use it for turkish firing squads on their civilian population it has to work so i you know i mean do you do i say that yeah i did the uh... yet typically that again they've been their main battle rifle country just like poor like uh... uh... pakistan and because of that they and because they are desert country either producing a lot of uh... squad guns vehicle mounted 308's etc. So that's a market niche for Turkey. They do a lot of their own and they export to a degree just like Pakistan does. So their 308 is probably pretty decent. I've just never seen any in the country. Is it boxer primed? Yeah. I've seen some Turkey shoot and a cute and some of it. I was expecting one. Well the big thing there then is... It was sealed too. It was probably full mil spec. It should be heated heel case, it should be lacquer for the Kenler, lacquer for the Primer. I don't know if they got one of our factories or not. There were so many that left the country that they dumped off into other nations hands. I just never bothered. Actually, I could find it in the old Smith small arms because they confirmed where all of them went. But, Turkey is, again, it's serviceable. I haven't seen or heard anything strange happening. You might want to try it out in your rifle. It has to be made for a gas gun. Or, again, either a belt-fed weapon that's full auto, or, again, a semi-auto full auto HK or FN FAL, et cetera, because I don't think they're using any M14s in Turkey. I haven't seen any. Doesn't mean they don't have them. But they did pick up a bunch of HKs. Yeah, but it was interesting the box had a comment of what you know arriving in your rifle as well as a city You can get you a Harris way all you have to do lift the gun up and show as much as possible And I can get off the bags off the bags or with pretty much shoot the same size group It's X-Max. Here's the suggestion on ammo For some cheap, but yet accurate ammo Federal 308 a which is the product code federal 3 away, which is their basic plane vanilla 150 grain soft point, it's like their cheapest thing, but the secret on that is, I find in a lot of guns that I've fired it through M14s and other things, that it shoots as good or not better than their gold medal match ammo. Now that's about 100 yards, it's 150 grain flat point, so it's not going to be great for getting out to 700 yards or anything really. I use it for accuracy testing because it's like a baseline to establish what's the gun doing versus what's going on with ammo. Usually you pick it up at Walmart or something. Is that what you're talking about? It's FEDL 308A is their product code. It's 150 grain. The soft point was to get a federal power shock, it's on a blue box. It's like the keep of basic plain vanilla hunting ammo that they sell for federal. Consistently, I've found for many years that whatever it is, and we've seen multiple M14s, I've fired it through. It produces as good or better groups than most match ammo. You may want to try that just to see what the gun's doing versus what the ammo's doing. I've also tried that ZQI stuff as well. I found that it's decent. It performs about like other military ball ammo. It's not especially accurate nor especially inaccurate in my experience. But it's decent for the money. Field grade service issue. Right. You get the claim. You get the claim. Right. Right. Sounds good to me. All right. And guys, we are at the top. Anything else? Jump in there, guys, before we go. And he misdirection as far as web pages. You got a .50 caliber bolt gun in service real quick guys. We are at the top. On your number for night vision, it'll be available in just a few minutes. Dead numbers, 2317968458. God bless the Republic. Test to the New World Order. We shall prevail, it isn't just many empires on the run. But we are on the march, both day and night. Take them every way, poke them with a bayonet, hit them with a tomahawk, use that bowie on them from the side, grab your little pistol, put some bullets in their butt cheeks, and take pistol just for practice. How about you pop that knee out then, while we strike them along, stick them with a bayonet, pull the trigger just to get the bayonet unstuck, or it's in their, one of those poems, collarbones, whatever. And, Butstroke just to be safe and onto the next target. Hey, gotta have some fun sometimes, and it has to be at their expense. Don, you never productive to close the kitchen please. It is, two three one, seven, nine, six, eight, four, five, eight. Thank you Mark, God bless ya. God bless ya America. Caller, thanks for that blessing earlier. We waited!