Mark Koernke and Don Betcher discussed night vision technology, specifically the shift from green-screen to white-screen devices in the civilian market, which they attributed to UN influence. They covered available inventory of first and second-generation night vision gun sights and viewers, emphasizing the importance of green-screen technology for light discipline and survivability. The show included discussion of a firearm discovered in carry-on luggage at Gerald R. Ford Airport in Grand Rapids, a whooping cough outbreak in Michigan, and extended commentary on vehicle modification for combat use, including detailed instructions for converting civilian vans into armored personnel carriers using Kevlar blankets and steel plating. The episode also featured nostalgic discussion of classic American muscle cars and pickup trucks.
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And good. afternoon ladies and gentlemen this is the second hour of the afternoon intelligence report i'm r korky and i'm don betcher one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and uh... behind the lines and occupied territories west southwest east and uh... norwitt's gentlemen you're listening to us uh... LibertyTreeRadio.4MG.com, Indiana Freedom Talk Radio dot com, Ronnie, FMI station, CB base stations, and Ultra Net Technologies East and West of the Mississippi along with Alaska. We're in the Hallmark network from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida from the bottom of Florida to the target of the open Mexico. Headed Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma, big chunk of Nebraska, a whole bunch of Wyoming to include both the 3rd, the 5th, and our friends in the recall state of Colorado waving the left coast where we have the great state of Jefferson, we turn back to the east, sweep across the plains, leap over the Mississippi, and land in the Smoky slash the Blue Ridge where the restaurant crews, grandma teams, okay teams, and the Montbell Grammar Consortium bring us the Golden Spike. Well done. It has been a nice day today. It never got super sunny, guys, but the cloud cover was perfect for a hike. We didn't get any moisture. I shouldn't say worried. It might make downpour or snow out there in the next 15 minutes here in Michigan. But in reality, can't complain. We really had a good day to work outside. That's a problem. I lost track. It's not as much lost track. You know how you got that last thing and you know it's going to take just a minute and then it takes more because well it should have taken just a minute and it breaks again and it breaks again. Then you think boy I really want to break this real bad now don't I? Hey you know look what I was doing Wednesday Mark. 4 o'clock in the morning Debbie woke up to let the dog out and she said what's wrong with the furnace? So Wednesday I was working on the furnace all day and I didn't, I haven't mentioned, I haven't talked to you off the earth between then and now. I apologize for that. That's what was going on Wednesday. There's always stuff. It's like, you know, I'm there's a million projects, both stuff that's for the war effort and just that's got to be done when you got someplace to live. Just keeping the boat afloat. We're making the boat look pretty, but I'll tell you, I'm beefing it up. You know, most all my construction now, just little case in point there, guys, anything you're going into here, you can run a truck on. I've got so much 2x6, 2x8, 2x10, 2x12 and beams that there isn't anything that I'm not putting together that isn't built. So if I wanted to adapt it to something else real quick, it would offer a great deal of strength. And that's really the idea. Use it or lose it. I've actually been resource rich in certain areas. Just got blessed with a whole bunch of material again yesterday and I just, it's like you can't pass it up. The biggest thing is trying to use it or at least set it up so that it's available for the future. On that note, again available for the future, night vision technology has changed progressively. I understand what they're doing, but I'm questioning why it's being done in the industry and I still think there's some arm pulling being done behind the back there, pulling behind the back and saying, do this. because again we know the value of green screen on the battlefield and why we went to green screen. White screen is now being pushed into the civilian market and I think this is part of the UN scam. I believe there's a bunch of the stuff with it. You know the Power Freaks. We can't help it. There's nothing we can do because it's at the strategic level. It's way up the feeding chain. But we have warned you about it. A lot of you took advantage and have already purchased from Don. There are other companies that have some, but even they are already flush. In other words, I've been looking at the inventories. You're already seeing a major bleed of the white screen into the market because the green screen has been scarfed up by you guys, by all of us, everybody taking their turn. We're going to make the white screen work. That is something I just talked to one of our radio geeks last night on that subject. Again, we're going to be sitting down with Don. We're going to take a look at a couple of these systems and we will have a real solution, one way or another, with regard to the green screen, from going from white back to green screen. It's going to happen so that we can protect your eyes and we can increase your survivability. It's a critical issue. It's that important. And I can't emphasize this enough, so Don still has some first gen green screen in weapons sites, right Don? Yes, I do. Now, I want you to take over, explain to everybody what's been going on again, what you have available, and if anybody has any questions, guys, jump in here, please, because Don's available for another 20 minutes and I don't want to waste that. Jump in there, give everybody an overview, and tie in whatever else you want to on this, because this is a critical component in our inventory of tools in the tool bag. Jump in there, go. Well, we'll start with something basic. Everybody recognizes the story and if you don't, we'll give you the thumbnail free on a match. You know, you're sitting in the foxhole and there might be somebody out there, but man, I just want that cigarette. We addressed tobacco the other day in nicotine, didn't we? And your three buddies, they all figure, well, we're going to smoke a cigarette. You're two others. And you light the match and you light your cigarette. and you light the buddy's cigarette and you light the third guy's cigarette and all of a sudden his head just goes away. Now that's one end of the story. The other end of the story is there's someone looking across the field and he sees the flash of the match and it brings his attention and he brings the gun to bear. He watches as the light moves to the second person. Now he's taking aim. He adjusts ever so slightly as the match goes to the third person and the third person is doomed to three on a match. That's that story. You've heard it before. That three on a match, that's the flair of a little dinky flame, big candle. But when you bring a piece of night vision up to your eye, if you turn it on at your waist, a lot of people will turn it on. pair of goggles, a pair of binoculars, holding them like they do, like a pair of daylight binoculars. Turn them on and then bring them up to their eyes. Now that's a little flash of green across your face. That green is almost invisible, almost to another piece of night vision, first, second, third, or fourth generation. It just doesn't fit into a wave category that the machine is built to sense. Even third and fourth generation which go from infrared up into ultraviolet which is the thing that makes third generation work a little bit more when the clouds are out than second generation because it reaches into the ultraviolet not just the infrared light stream. That green light that comes out of your green screen is hardly seen by the machine, a night vision device. Let alone it's not white light or it's not red light that catches the human eye real quick. It's a lot more subdued. White light on your face, as you know, example, the three on a match, or white light on your face. White light in the darkness is something completely unnatural. Out of the corner of your eye, if you were to see it, you would look at it. We've addressed this many times. What is it that we discern from our eyes? Motion? and color and shape. Now shape and motion and color, all of those can be categorized with the single issue of a dash of white light in the nighttime. That is going to catch your eye for its shape, for it. It doesn't have to move. It is just there. If it's on and off, it appears to move to your ocular, to your sensors. It's just like something in motion. So you've got all three there for just that little instant that make your opponent want to look at that. What was that? Out of the corner of his eye. Just his eye. If someone's overlooking a great area with a first, second, third, or fourth generation piece, he's on the military bluff and he's looking men that he can see for miles in that one direction. You think, well I've got a piece of night vision and I look over there and I can't see five, seven hundred yards if the light is low. I can't discern things if there are shadows and whatnot. But the harder the shadow, the more the little bit of light is going to stand out. That's another thing that needs to be addressed. So again, you guys, the mix is just not a pound of this and a pound of that and a pound of something else and you've got a cake. It doesn't work like that. Light discipline. Let's extend this here because if you've got a piece of thermal, and we've addressed this before, you know what color light comes out of thermal, don't you? If you're looking at the black and white or the white and black depending on which you choose to issue as the heat, you've got white light coming out of your thermal. Now you might never have thought of this before, but have your buddy stand over there and have him watch your face or hand it to your buddy and watch his face when he brings that piece up to his face. That only reinforces what we're talking about light discipline if you have to go into the field with a with a piece that emits white light if you're already used to your thermal you you've got you're working on this already because someone might have pointed this out to you man look at what's on your face here or This is what it looks like when you're using it John and he shows you and then he says hold it like this and so your thumb is almost on your temple and and you've created that last little bit of shield so that no white light comes out. That's what we'll be reduced to with certain pieces of what will be replacement for first generation unless we come up with a way to change that color. We're working on it. The first generation gun sight for power, we've talked about this for a while and there are a few of them left. They call it the 390. I can put it in your mailbox for $390. It's 308 capable. It'll live on top of your 30-odd six. It will live on top of your AR-10. Now, don't put it on your 50, put it on your 50. But I can put that right in your mailbox for $390. There are a few left and when they're gone, they're gone. I brought this to your attention at the beginning of the year and the manufacturer said they'll be gone at the end of the year. And they came real close to their assessment. But right now, all of the first generation viewers in Green Screen are gone. where we had a two power first generation gun sight that's gone, where it's with a four power, I'm not certain how many six powers are left. I spent yesterday afternoon with Joe working on the computer and making contact with the company in a number of different advantages, that would be the way to put it, you know, downloading this and that, but it still wasn't able to get the number of how many six powers are left. Now, I've told you before, and I don't mind telling you, you guys, if you go to a gun show this weekend and there's a green screen viewer, 2 Power, 2 1.5, first generation, and you can pick it up, you might just as well get it, because I can't offer you a green screen viewer in first generation now. I had a green screen viewer, I think it was going out the door for like $179. If you can see that at a gun show this weekend, next, pick it up, if it's a green screen. Because as you point out, Mark, and as was told to us at the beginning of the year, They are being removed from the market. That means the entry level in green screen is going to be second generation. This right up front of second generation gun sight. It is 2 power. Again, same parameters as the first generation piece. It is 308 capable. Don't put it on your 50 please. That can go right in your mailbox for $1,245. I've got a second generation viewer rather. 2.8 power. A manufacturer might call it 3 power. When it first came out they called it 2.8. Now that's human inertia, I still call it 2.8 power because there's not much difference. 2.8 to 3 power. And if I'm wrong, what's that? By .2 or something? 2.8 to 3 power. I still call it 2.8. At any rate, it's a very fine viewer. It's very uniform. The performance from one to the next is tremendous. The uniformity is what I'm referring to there. That can go right in your mailbox for $980, but these are my entry-level green screen now other than the four power first-generation gun sight. We're working on different things and I've run up some thought lines to the manufacturer. You know if it's provided white light behind the screen with white LEDs, why not just replace them with green LEDs? And the manufacturer was made aware of that early in the summertime when it came to my attention. Someone you'd all recognize the name. Let's see if they move on that. that would be good, even just at the entry level piece. But right now you guys, and again I'll tell you, if you can find a first, if you're at a gun show, a gun store, there's a first generation viewer, brand new, because you know, we've talked about this before you guys, there's a finite performance parameter, lifetime, in a first, second, third, and a fourth generation tube. First generation tubes are all built in the same Russian factories. fifteen hundred hours in a first generation tube lifetime. And if you find something at a gun show and it's used, and the guy said, oh I used it once and I didn't even replace the original battery well, you know, you can take him for his word or maybe he never did replace the original battery. Maybe he hasn't run it out yet and maybe there's less than 40 hours on the device and a brand new device you're going to expect about fifteen hundred hours out of a first generation device. I thought I'd mention that too. But you guys, if you find it at a gun show, make certain it produces green light and pick it up because again my entry level piece in first generation green screen is $390 right near mailbox. It's a gun site. We've talked about converting different things to gun sites and it can be done if you stay small in the caliber but you know we talk about the right tool for the right job and this is a gun site that is 308 capable. It is purpose built to be a gun site. I don't want to continue on this line. I'll tell you. Hey, goggles or gun sights, you've heard it before. Two, three, one, seven, nine, six, eight, four, five, eight, green screens are thermal. Two, three, one, seven, nine, six, eight, four, five, eight. There are a couple subjects I want to get to in the next few minutes, Mark. Go ahead, jump in there, please. You know, you got that Gerald R. Ford Airport down here in Grand Rapids. You know, it's named for the fourth stooge. And there are a lot of people in Michigan that really don't like me for saying that, but you know, he was a puppet! As far as I know, it's the only airport in America named for a stooge. A puppet or a pupet? Well, Gerald R. Ford. You know, he sat on the Warren Commission and then he was rewarded with, we'll make you president, although nobody even voted for you. At any rate, they named an airport after him down there. You know they've stopped five guns in that airport so far this year. Granted, the year is almost gone. They stopped one yesterday, Mark, in a man's luggage, his carry-on luggage. No magazine, no ammunition. Obviously, it was a semi-auto gun. He told everybody he forgot to run it in his other bag and check it. He's home now. I don't know if any charges have been brought against him. More on that story as more information comes to light. I thought I'd just mention that. Because, you know, we talked about, you know, keeping guns and keeping guns safe and having weapons around, but man, that's just a goofy thing. Because, you know, the guy, you know, he's probably not a terrorist. Just add the gun in the wrong bag and that's what he told them. And again, he's home tonight. He's not in some federal prison, you know, being waterboarded or anything. All right. Enough on that. There is something else to be addressed here. And we've talked about immunizations over the years, haven't we? And there are plenty of people that say it shouldn't be done and it's poisoning us and this and that. But you know what was running and I've been wanting to touch on this. I've been wanting to bring this to the hour for the last month, maybe five weeks. But whooping cough has been running rampant. Oh, it's not epidemic proportion, but up in Traverse City area. Now it's cooling down up there, but you know, we get around more than we used to. And now it's down in kind of the Battle Creek or more toward the Lake Michigan area, it's in that area of Michigan now. And we've talked about homeschooling. We've talked about removing your children from a lot of things that go on in the world. But again, we've talked about inoculations, the shots before. But this is something, it can be deadly for some children. And I thought I'd bring this up just because Well, the mainstream is touching on it and I wanted to bring it to the hour just because there are people who listen to the intelligence report who don't watch television. Sometimes it might seem Don is talking about over here, boil your water over there in grayling or whatever and I'm not talking about doing it today, so don't get me wrong. It might seem very miniscule in its application, but we've got people in grayling and we've got people around Traverse City and down there towards Metal Creek and other areas west of that. Watch television. I'd bring that up. The call out, is this happening in other areas across the nation? Is this going on in Wisconsin and Indiana? We're just not seeing it in the coverage. We're just seeing the local coverage because we hear about it. It's our nephew. It's our niece or our daughter, son. That offers up the question Is this something that's going on across the nation and being contained by the media? I thought I'd bring that up Mark. Thank you. Again, real quick on the firearms going into the airport, one way or another, I don't know, you know it's going to be zero tolerance. It doesn't make any difference whether or not it was a mistake and blah blah blah blah. To the me, it's obvious. 99.9% of whatever you see like that is where people just you know lose track mostly because Well, everybody would acknowledge most people don't have a three month or three week or three month memory span three months of the ancient So a little confusion and a lot of people who are having a tough time with life. Well, what's the surprise? I forgot it was there it can happen, you know Without guarantee that they this was the the event for the day. Oh my god You know on the other hand if the guns not there and which of course he's not there so the gun wasn't on the plane Well, that's the day that the terrorists do attack the plane and boy It'd be nice if one guy just had a gun that moment the air marshals are dead The plane is being The screw workers have collected all the plastic knives. Yeah, it's like, wow, if I just had that pistol, I almost got on the plane. Oh, well, that's okay. Don't worry about it. Wait a minute. If I can get down to the hole, my other guns are locked in there, which in theory you could get to it. But have you ever seen how baggage is thrown on a plane? It's like, it's not those... Good luck finding it. Yeah, it's not that nice, neat pile of... To be in Havana first. Yeah. You kind of have to dig. In fact, especially if they're really busy at a certain hub, Denver is like, you know, you remember those ads with the tourists or luggage with the gorilla? Those are real. That's not a fake. I mean, I'll never forget this. Actually, we had all the guns in a certain piece of luggage, right? Because we check them in every time we'd fly everywhere we'd go. And we were armed with the teeth, guys. Always. 45s, you know, 38s, all kinds of good stuff, and you know, both small and big. And, but we'd always check them in. And of course the pain, all the girls that were, you know, panty-waists were horrible. The girls that, you know, were actually knew their job were, you know, really cool. They're like, oh, I like this. What is that? Oh, that's a little Smith & Wesson Model 36. You know, you've seen it before in movies. That's a Chief Special kind of gun. Wow, that's perfect for me. Yes, you should buy one. And if I had enough of them, I'd have given her that one right there. Good, you like guns? Oh, you can have that one. Take that one home right now. Go ahead. Well, as it is, conveniently our bags were going on down the road from Denver, which was not an accident. We know the feds did it intentionally. Well, they literally stopped the plane on the tarmac. and they went out with a loader's truck and now guys, one of the funny things was watching them because they opened up the doors and everybody started looking at them, oh my god, is that luggage? Because they were expecting to see like in the movies down those nice neat rows of baggage and all stacked and everything, oh hell no. The guy has to dive into the bay and he's throwing a bag here and he's throwing a bag there and he's throwing more bags here and he's getting frustrated. And he has to dig his way through the carnage to find the flight bag that I normally would carry, which was cool because it was distinct. It used to be they'd be all over the place back during Vietnam. And I used to have five of them on hand, so if one got busted up, I'd just switch out to the next one, which I had to do only once. But, in this case, that's what he was able to find. He knew what he was looking for. We described a bag. He said, oh yeah, I know exactly what those are. Because he was an older carrier, not real old, but old enough he remembered. So, the cool thing is that we found it. They dug it out. They grabbed our bags. They put them back on the trolley and shut the doors, checked everything, gave the thumbs up and the plane then went on into the flight line to take off. We got the guns and the clothes, which we needed for the event in Denver that particular weekend and a couple other locations. The McGillagorilla, the gorilla behind there, bouncing the tourist luggage around, that is how it happens. He may not be a gorilla, but he performs the same way. Just that simple. So yeah, your guns are in down below and you know in the movies it's always there's these nice neat open bay areas. Guys, have you seen some of the images of some of these planes where they depict the inside of the aircraft? I mean really take a look at the height of a 747 even. And remember that well there's a big deck that you're on and then there's like the guppy belly below. But the guppy billable is full of a lot of other things than just your luggage. Just something to think about there. So anyway, we're just trying to make sure you're jogged from that idea I'll just wander down and find my bag conveniently stacked and I'll arm myself and then go back up and deal with the problem Ain't gonna happen. Remember the plane I didn't leave out a metro or some might have left out a flint and all the baggage was loaded in the tail They didn't even bother to move it up. They didn't redistribute what you're supposed to actually. They're balancing it up. Preferably, weight center is what you want. The pilot paid no attention to the loading. It was a woman pilot, not that there was any difference, but she paid no attention to the loading and rolled out and rotated and put the nose in the air and the wheels off the ground. Then the nose went up and up and up. She gave it every bit of throttle and it just hammerhead stalled and came to the ground. So that's just another reason they don't care about where they put your baggage or what they stack on it or even if there's a dog in there. But that's what happened. I have to scram mark. Oh okay. I'll tell you what, before you go down, your number for night vision please. Hey, goggles or gun sights, 2317968458. Green screens or thermal, 23179644. 58 and I'm looking with the world news on here tonight breaking news somebody's trying to steal nuclear secrets and they're showing the oh that might be the Ronald Reagan or the George Bush 32nd or something the aircraft carrier getting ready to be launched or something in the background but Somebody's stealing our nuclear secrets mark. Yeah, but we won't arrest the Israelis We know who's stealing our stuff boy give all time telling ya but we want to arrest them we've already caught them many times remember right after nine eleven with a bunch of our nuclear stuff and what did we do we we slapped their hands even when they showed fake i.d. you know nuclear fuel rods and other stuff so stolen from the uh... you know the period near the uh... tennessee valley authority facility yolk rich facility and guys they did nothing They took them right back and shipped them right back to Israel. And they were stealing right out of the front door because you don't move a nuclear fuel rod. Oh, they threw it over the fence. No, they didn't. The biggest spy thing that ever happened came to us from Israel. Thank you, Mark. God bless. And we're going to go to break. We'll be back. Thank you, Mark. God bless. Get paid off with a bowl of milk, but not anymore Watching humans make machines and treat the wild with scorn Little sprays for a great revenge, but were gremlins born Now, the whiskey you're due Hasn't to get with you, emblems everywhere They all loom this brave new world, singing pastures do They bear for years, glass and steel So from the arse for never buying a gremlin car and putting it away, seriously The neatest is there are two cars I wish I had bought and kept and it sounds weird but a Pacer and a Gremlin. I had an AMX Javelin and I know I should have kept that. You can kick me all over the place on that one. I had a 1970 AMX and guys that was like the niche car. That was one of those pocket rockets right in there with the Mustang and people go, the Javelin! They put stuff under the hood on a javelin that would keep right up with the rest of them and roll right on past. Many of those engines were either Pontiac or they were Chevy or even Ford engines that they had discontinued. AMC needed an engine to put under the hood so they would buy one of the other designs. The AMC 232 was originally a six-cylinder Chevy engine. There's not an AMC 232 engine that I didn't put over 230,000 miles on and somebody else bought it and ran it for another six years. Go ahead, caller, jump in there. DC, Lincoln High School back in the 7th, if I'm remembering correctly, I think you can help me. Was there a POC 396? Yeah, they had a 389, forgive me, correction, they had a 289. They had a 360 something, it was bigger than the Chrysler 360, which basically the 360 and the 318 are in the same family. All they just changed heads and a few other trinkets, but those basically the same two engines. Well I could be very wrong, but it seems like to me it was something that I was thinking about. in that. What it is, is they bought a bunch of Chevy engine designs that were finished. They stopped using them in 64 or 65 and they kept building them in the 70s. You know what they did is they bought the design from them and they slid the designs over and cranked them out themselves. Not a whole lot of room. What year was it? What year was it? 72? Because the 70 was its own body. In the 72s, they went with the 7172, the half year model I think, they went with using the Hornet, which was a little smaller. You know, remember you got the Gremlin, the Hornet, and then the AMC, the Javelin. The AMX, that's why it was smaller in the back end when you mentioned the seat. Because on the 70 AMX, the regular Javelins, the full-size Javelins, you had enough room, but you could sit down and you could be easily six people could sit in the car. So yeah, it had to be probably a 71, 72. Either a 71.5 or the 72. And then they did a well. They actually, you got to remember, they also then went to the Coke bottle. It's kind of funny because the Hornet was the Hornet. They had the AMX on the Hornet package or they had an AMX Hornet, I guess the best way to describe it. And then they also had the Javelin in the, remember the last model had the Coke bottle design to it. Had the Rolls, you know, which really, to me that was one of the best looking. If there were three cars I would probably have got the GTO, the AMX Javelin and a Ford Mustang for 73. Well the AMX David had was like a fact. Yeah, it was short arse on it. Yeah. And it would, light and wear it. Burnt orange, they came in burnt orange. They were all weird, like off colors that would have been in the back end of the GM color chart. They had like an off green you couldn't match with anything. The burnt orange, if you want to see the burnt orange, go to a, oh come on. What's the Korean car company right now? Yeah, yeah Kia go to the Kia dealership and they have that burnt orange and they have the green on their cars right now Well, it was more of a dark color. That's the gold. That's the deep gold that the Chargers also had. Yeah. Okay Yeah, yeah, they Chrysler did the same color and those were annoying. That's impossible to match up Those are again. Those are custom mix You'd have to wait till when you had to fix them you had to have somebody mix paint for you I had one of the green, the medium, it wasn't olive, it was more like Italian green. But in a metal plaque, it was a bright color. But it was un-purchaseable. I would have repainted the car twice over, but it's like, well, here's what it costs for the paint. That's probably not something I'm going to do. Another buddy of mine got really fortunate. His parents for a graduation present gave him the money to... That was almost my first car as a matter of fact. It was a Barracuda. They were pretty neat. They had a really weird... You're talking about the one with the double glass hat, the hatch rear, the glass... Oh yeah. The only problem is, the only thing always bothering about that is one stone and you'd spend a fortune replacing that back window. In one side of it. Because remember, the clamshell model, you had the two pieces. another buddy of mine had the uh... one of the earlier well you know they were fun to get well that you'll story there from cars to drive there's more protection around you it might my argument is there's no reason we couldn't build a car that size with all the new polymer you think about all the garbage we're doing with trucks now apply it to cars there's no reason we should be sitting in sardine cans right now exactly know what i mean think about it just think and it's kind of like and and and companies get chastised for doing this Think back to the 90s. Everybody was doing the same thing, the same thing, and all of a sudden Dodge came up with what I call their bubble butt pickup trucks. And they just sold everybody. They went from number three in pickup trucks, they were number one, number one, number one. Why? The Dodge always made the best thing. I got one of the last making them and they went to the Sprinter in there. This is my third. The only option you're going to have now is to start watching for another backup. I used to do that, Ed could tell you. We ran Chevy vans because at full size. Remember they were the full size wide van. Much better handling because you could literally lay a plywood. They were the wide axle so you could lay a sheet of plywood between the wheel wells. That's what I've got. They've got a nice foot, but the Chevy probably because it just had that profile. Well, in both cases, like you said, one of the things for everybody is like, well, vans, they're not really, they're kind of tippy. No, new vans are tippy. And or, vans made before 1970 were tippy. Why? Because, in fact, what they're doing with vans now is what we went away from because back in the 60s, two things would happen if you had an accident. A, if it was a head-on, you weren't getting out of the vehicle. Well, why was that? Because it was a flat front end. yeah because of what running you were sitting forward of the axle and the engine was back in the crew compartment Okay, I we used to go down the road. I remember this like yesterday. Oh god, especially when I had a boil leak We're going down the road with a Chevy van Was a 66 and you could work on it going down the road guys Yeah, you could uncover them uncover the engine tweak the carburetor while we're going down the road and Cover it back up and keep right on going either it was mid or you know again forward is still forward of you know Where it should be on the axles But because you were parallel with the engine, it either sat right there between you in a pod or it sat behind the seat. Either way, depending on the year. And let's not forget Corvair. Oh gee, what a death trap. Well, yeah, again, but there, a whole tub, that was the American Volkswagen. You know, they, yeah, well they, they, real good kit, because the chassis and everything worked for a lot of kit dealers. Unique stuff. Yeah. I had a neighbor down the road. Take him back two or three years. He'd do it part-time. Then he turns around and says, do it again. I think he financed his return. The bigger van with the wider axle, they drive flat driving. I think people have not experienced that. Typically people don't like vans because they've not driven the right van. Exactly. For troop transports, I'll tell you, the Chevy van with the wide axle, I put two jump seats. What I do is, here's a trick, guys. If you want to make a practice and teach people to run APCs, you get an extra straight-band seat. I call it a cylon seat. and you put that just between the two seats up front and just a little towards the driver's side. Then you go to a wrecking yard where they've got buses. Get two bus seats, one from each side out of the kiddie bus section, the school bus section. Then get one, it would be from the right-hand side, so you'll get two rights and get one left. Then, you're going to have to do a little bit of welding and you create a set of legs for one of the seats, the one of the right-hand seats. That will sit on the right side, on the rider's side, so that it will be between the back door and the sliding side door. Then the other two seats you weld a bracket so you put those two together if you want to put another front arm leg you know leg that comes down as an armature in the middle to support it so you don't have to worry about weight because of the height of the bus seats they will sit perfectly right over and on the wheel well so you have additional support there screw those down to the bed now hang you know put hanger bags all the way around the perimeter for your spare gas masks Put your radio station up behind the driver's seat so that the Psilon seat, the squad leader's seat, or gunner's seat can handle the radios as needed. If you have a moon roof and you install it right over that Psilon seat, you have a gunner's station. You now have a pretty nifty little assault van. And everybody goes, but Mark, it's a tin box! Yeah, yeah, well I should have mentioned that then you buy those Kevlar blankets we used to put in the M113 and Bradley APCs. You get them for about $40 a piece. They're designed to stop small arms fire. You can either hang one on each side or you can hang two on each side. Personal preference thing. Or you can hang a first, you can hang some, you know, quarter inch steel on the inside. Little bit, at least up to the neck. on each side and then hang your blankets and now you've got what on the outside looks like a standard three-quarter ton work van wide axle. But on the inside, you have a basic configuration for any number of different APCs. So when you want to train men in how to mount, dismount, out of combat, operate from a fighting vehicle, you have a pretty good solution that, if need be, could be pressed into service. But at the very least, you've been training men over and over and over and over again how to operate it as a team in a mechanized section. And don't forget you've got the convenient helicopter door on the right side and you've got those back doors. Oh yeah, you can dismount an eight man team like now. Oh yeah. Like now. In fact, it takes longer to talk about it than it does for everybody to do it if you're practiced. And that means that you've got an awfully nice little combat package. Don't forget that. And you can armor vehicles up more. Notice I said three quarter ton van. You can also beef up the suspension. There are all kinds of things that we did. Eventually I went from Chevy's to Ford's simply because Ford's became more affordable for a while. We basically configured the Ford's the same way, although we did buy a lot of those as just plain troop transports with as many bench seats as possible in them. If they didn't have them, we installed them. Yeah, that was the last of the big engines that they actually put into anything and then everybody dropped down in size. Of course, AMC disappeared. They went down and they were bought out when Jeep was bought out. American Motors Corporation was made to disappear. Well, I can't remember if it was either Arizona or New Mexico. One of the two was for one. Oh yeah, no, Arizona. Arizona had tons of them. In fact, the Studebakers was the other thing. AMC products and Studebakers. The problem is most of the cars as you know down there with those pavement that pavement is so pretty people just love to drive to maximum performance range and when they have an accident down there they just roll and roll and roll because there's no trees to slow them down. Somebody told me when I bought the AMC that I had guys I say hey Mark There's a javelin down there at the gas station. I jumped in the javelin. Forgive me, I have a hornet because I was looking for small parts, little titty bits, you know, stuff. I went down there and that car was a pretzel. Cliff did it fall off. He goes, oh, I didn't fall on a cliff. He wrecked out there on the flats, you know, out there just north of the North-South Road out of Fort Chuca. And it's like really, there was not a part that wasn't broken on that car. I figured I'd at least get a dash knob, right? Whoever was inside hit everything and impacted on everything over and over and over. And there was nothing that wasn't broke. The faceplate on the radio, every dial had been bent or crushed. Everything. I mean, there was not. I don't think I got, I would say this, and this is what was bizarre. I got the rear view mirror from the windshield. Well, I'm surprised that held on. That was the one thing that survived. Those things you hit bid off. Well, I paid a whopping $2 for you, so I said, hey, you found something on that car you could use? I said, yeah, can I get the mirror? Well, sure, he goes, well, what do you want for it? Well, give me $2. Okay, so I had $2 and I got to replace a bigger rearview mirror for the, you know, the Hornet. I kept the other one as a spare, you know, but I needed a radio dial. Every radio dial had been squashed flat into the dash. You know, like it was squashed like a mushroom, like when you put a mushroom on a table and you slap it from above and it splayed out. That's how all the dials were on the dash Every one of them this liver was in there. It couldn't have made it Anyway, okay what we're and we are headed towards the top here guys Oh reminiscing, but it you know what I long for the days of the makawa Mustang on the road in mass the humbling of the engines the victory motor sounds And then the spottering of the engines and cylinders pop through the hood and the car starts to flame and all of it was terrible. There was all kinds of nasty stuff happening because those big cars also had some really impressive big kaboom, spent the time came. Yah. Anyway, so we're going to be doing some kaboom in here not too far out. Again, adapting vehicles to combat use. Mr. Pickup Truck is your friend. Don't forget that there's all kinds of fun things you can do with sheet metal and sandbags. If you're working with vans, the big thing is fire safety on the inside, armor concealed. One of the other things that we did with the vans, by the way, we cut a quarter inch steel plate and mimicked the helicopter bucket seats that they did during Vietnam. came up the back of the seat with sheet metal with steel, not just sheet metal, and then we did a set of ears left and right that were casually cut and rounded. Most of those that we built were used for OpFor, gave us a chance to actually, like I said, take two or three of these plus a couple of M7-15s and practice mechanized operations and developed Basically, manhandling skills, being able to deploy the equipment and move the heavy weapons that support your inventory. Example, M60 is in the moon roof on the roof or in the pedal mounts on the M7-15s, even M2s depending upon, and again, it's a little rat patrol operation. Now it's funny because I've had stupid people who made mouthy comments about that over the years until, wow, in the last, what, three years. How many times have you seen columns of civilian trucks that have been armed to the gills with every stinking configuration of toad or platform weapon you can think of? And lo and behold, it's like, what it is is the people who were ridiculing what I was talking about years ago, mostly were government shills because they don't want you to think about the fact that the paint doesn't make the vehicle, okay? If you'll notice, although they should be camouflaging them, most of the vehicles taken into service for special warfare operations or whatever they could find that looks like it's got four wheels, brakes, it starts, it stops, it runs, and it's typically a truck. Okay, and if it's not a truck they'll break out the flame wrench, you know and cut off the back end Put a deck in the back end of that car or that Datsun or whatever they got there and all of a sudden it's a gun platform again See how that works? Improvising, adapting, and overcoming, the big thing is that again you're able to get in and out of the thing. It's got to be able to move and no you don't want it really noisy. Remember the term very automotive and military application has to do with good performance across country or down the road, but it also has to do with quiet. Reconnaissance units don't want to... going down the road. A reconnaissance unit or even a fast attack unit. You want your vehicles as quiet as possible. We don't want to... even if you're driving bikes, they need to be muffled down the other way. Another thing is spares. If you're going to be gunning up equipment, don't forget spare tires. They don't have to be the best. Spare tires and plug kits are a special priority. We're going to be short tires. It's one of those two things that are going to be a high priority for scavenging. What's the other one? Batteries. In the military, especially for you guys who ran with tread head units or with wheeled units, everybody knows there is an entire separate element of the transportation corps that deals with just coordinating tires. There is the same element or typically a component of it also handles managing batteries When you have fleets of vehicles or even if you have a number of vehicles in service Guys, remember, not just people get shot. You always see all this BS in the movies and you only just drive away. Well, you might for a while, but if something's got a leaky hole in it, it's going to cause problems for the vehicle. Or you're going to end up having to change stuff out. Now, there's a number of different tricks, and we're right at the top, so we're not going to worry about that. We may talk a little bit later at 8. But most important to remember is start thinking repair in the field and that includes trying to find scavenge up a twelve volt compressor just for pumping air make sure you got a manual hand pump it doesn't have to be full spec in order for it to roll down the road you just gotta get some air in that tire after you have plugged it the important thing is to have backup both manual and electric and All the other tools of the trade needed to keep that thing wrenched and going down the road have to be on each vehicle so they can stay in the fight when the time comes. We're going to the top here. It's Quartermaster Friday. It's not over yet. Ed's taking over here with Melissa Town Hall. All you guys can chip in and help out, guys. Call in. Again, don't forget, the number is 712-43-20900. And then the room number is 957-464-Poundsign. God bless the Republic. Yep, for the new world order we shall prevail ladies and gentlemen the Empire is on the run, we're in a march. 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