December 4, 2014
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1h 8m
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2014
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Mark Koernke and Donald Betcher discussed the death of Eric Garner in New York City, analyzing how he was killed by police over the sale of untaxed cigarettes and framing it as federal revenue enforcement rather than legitimate law enforcement. The hosts examined police training deficiencies, compared the incident to Ferguson and other cases of police violence, discussed the role of communist agitators in protest movements, and covered topics including preparedness, firearms, ammunition availability, and night vision technology. Callers contributed perspectives on police standards, hand-to-hand combat training, and the militarization of law enforcement.
- eric garner
- police brutality
- new york city
- untaxed cigarettes
- federal revenue
- ferguson
- police training
- communist protests
- preparedness
- firearms
- ammunition
- night vision
- second amendment
- police standards
- constitutional rights
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For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money is spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. And keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children can be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children? to live in fear and be a slave. O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch entremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave is this still the land of the free? I just thought I'd whisper that in before Mark got it came up But you know what I'll run that again in case you didn't hear it And Rome fell from borders beyond her ability to secure. And Rome fell from dilution. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. This is the Evening Intelligence Report. I'm Mark Kornke. And I'm Donald Betcher. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, southwest, central, and east. Ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to us on IndianaFreedomTalkRadio.com or on AMANF and microstations, CB base stations, and UltraNet Technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska Hallmark Network from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida. From the bottom of Florida across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico. Headed to Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma, big chunk of Nebraska, a whole bunch of Wyoming to include both the 3rd, 5th, and our friends, the 13 sisters on the left side of that state. Colorado, good evening. Waving the left coast where we have the great state of Jefferson, we turn back to the east, we've crossed the plains, leap over the burgeoning banks of the Mississippi, and land in the Smokies slash the Blue Ridge. With the restaurant crews, Grandma, she's okay teams, and the Ma Bell Grandma Consortium bring us the Golden Spike. Many hands make for light work a million Peddicoat Junction operators. The ability to continue to function when everything else is offline. Well, I'll tell you what, Joe, oh, Joe, oh man, it's been one of those days. Sorry, Don. I understand. I'm thinking it's morning. You know what? I really am. Just call me part time. I understand. Well, I'll tell you what. We got Don with us here. Don, what's the date today, sir? It is the 4th. Let's jump off the wall there, please. It is the 4th day of December, year of our Lord 2014. And you know when you've got a Monday the 1st, you're going to have a Sunday the 7th, whether it's December or not. But hey, it's dark. It was a rather pleasant day. A lot of sun today didn't get as warm as it looked outside, but just warm again the fourth day of the 2004. I want to really go to the market. You want to buy a cigarette routine? You know? Because you guys when it boils down to the videos we're seeing lately of the big man being strangled to death in in New York there. And you know, some of the announcers might even say, oh look, there's a black woman sergeant overseeing the whole thing, so it must be okay. They didn't say it must be okay. But that is implied, understand that, when they say that, it's implied that everything is okay because there's a black woman sergeant over-watching that. That's the implication of that statement. Every time they invoke her standing there, that's what they're trying to do. It's a psychological thing. It's basic. It really is. Most people, it goes right over their head because, well, they just tend to see what they see and in an instant later they're absorbing something else. But they still have that little seed planted. It must have been okay, Mark, that big black man being strangled by three or five. Did you see the one cop holding his head? The one cop, it was just his job to hold that man's head to the ground. Now, you guys, you might think that, well, we're really talking about, because we have been as of late talking about police killing people, we really have as of late, haven't we? And sometimes it's justified. You have to understand that. Somebody is trying to take your gun from you, what would you do even if you were, you know, thugalicious. But now listen to this. What was that guy doing, Mark? You know a pack of cigarettes is about $14 in New York City? How many did he get in a pack? He'd get like 20 in a pack. Now the guy could be standing there. He used to get a cigarette for a nickel, you guys. Give the guy behind the counter at the The grocery store that would sell you an individual cigarette. I've never bought an individual cigarette in my life, but I've witnessed it. They used to go for a nickel. Long, long time ago. I could sing that song, but people tell me I'm a lousy singer. Well, at $14 a pack, one could well imagine standing on a street corner and selling a cigarette, a single cigarette for a dollar. Now you're making what? One-third profit. There's a lot of companies that stay in business with less profit. But you know what, turn that pack of cigarettes over. You might think Don is just rambling on here, but all of this is laid down for a reason. Turn that pack of cigarettes over and you see that little blue stamp on the bottom? Oh my gosh, you know what that is? The feds. Right there, that's a federal tax stamp on the bottom of a pack of cigarettes, that little blue stamp. That is a federal tax stamp. I can go to Ohio or come to Michigan. If I'm going to New York, I could buy a carton of cigarettes in my life. I could buy a box that has a whole bunch of cartons of cigarettes in it for less than $5 a pack. Now, if I were to stand on the corner in New York and sell them for the exorbitant price, I could sell those at $0.50 a piece and make more than that guy is making selling them at $1 a piece. You understand that? But you know how soon the Feds are going to jump in on that? Because they're not getting their cut. We used to call them revenuers. You understand that, don't you? We used to call people who do this revenuers. They used to go out and bust the people with the stills, the boiling pot and a little curly pizza cup or pipe over there and we're going to get us some corn squeezes. They weren't paying taxes on those drinks that they were producing, those alcoholic beverages. There are people who enjoy nicotine more than some people enjoy alcohol. There are people who have turned their back on alcohol but cannot turn their back on nicotine. It is that powerful. It truly is. Many of you that have tried to quit smoking know what I'm talking about. You'd give the guy $1. Why, you might even give the guy $2 for one cigarette standing there on a corner in New York City. But along come the federal revenuers. The revenuers, you know what it amounts to Mark, is those guys, those street cops, were enforcing federal law to the extent that you can't sell that cigarette boy and you can't sell that cigarette to the extent that we'll kill you to keep you from smoking or rather selling that cigarette and avoiding a federal tax. That's what happened there. Now, not to mention a man died. All of those actions added up to a man dying because he was selling cigarettes and probably got him. I don't know if he bought him on the corner in New York or got him from another state yet, thus increasing his profit here in, I love this word, capitalist America. Why he was doing what you're supposed to be doing in America, buying low end selling high, but along come the Federals, I mean, you know. Along come the replacements for the Federals, the Feds, the Federales, the Revenuers, and take this man's life. Because he's trying to lift himself up by his bootstraps here in the biggest city in the United States, the most expensive city, other than probably, you know, you can't really call Key West a city. But it probably costs a lot of money to spend a few days in Key West and not much behind that. It costs a lot of money just to live in New York. So you try to make a little money on the side, along comes a couple of uniforms and some who ain't uniform and they squeeze your throat until you're dead. Why? Because they couldn't squeeze the taxes out of him. Wow. Wow. Now, I'll remind you that one could understand that we threw the key, some say it was a whole bunch of opium there too, into the harbor for how much of a tax mark? Two pennies? Less than five percent. But granted, that was a lot of money in those days, but still a five percent increase on anything. You feel it in your pocketbook, don't you? And did you know that when the king said, well, we'll reduce that tax, No, no, no the king said well, we'll reduce the price of the tea But we'll keep the tax and it was lowered even to the point that it was just slightly below the price of the tea and the old tax and the people would not buy it Most of the people with a backbone, but now I get a little bit more historic in this description But I tell you that man died by wannabe feds doing revenue They used to show up in the woods looking for the stills, but now they just walk the streets of New York City looking for people to strangle because they haven't paid the tax on that cigarette. I yield to you, Mark. Well again, one of the first things is like, he was killed for what? For how much of what? Yeah. And not only that, but the whole idea of being... See, here's the other thing. They strangled and killed him. And we've, in a million times, I've talked about this recently. We were just talking about it before we came upon the air. You know, the cops, if you watch over and over again, will stand there and watch you die. If your gun comes round, they will stand there with their hands in their pocket or crossing their arms and they're all just milling about watching you bleed to death. You know those stupid responders? Notice they didn't say first responders, those stupid responders or instigators in most cases. And the minority, the absolute minority will step in and try to save someone. This even happened with the bomb blast in Boston. You watch the cops. They're all standing around, if supposedly that was real, for whatever reason. Again, it's an example which we can show you all over. Go to YouTube. That's the wonderful thing about YouTube. Watch these cops. They beat someone to death or nearly to death. No attempt to stop the bleeding. If there's somebody they come across, no attempt to stop the bleeding. No attempt to again in any way shape or form support. It's just the EMTs which they'll even hold back or block from doing their job. Which we've seen and we've demonstrated time and again and again So the first you know well this is not just skip the middleman and kill you before they get there, right? Yeah, I didn't look at the case from you know It's just like the situation understand the background and in yeah people can get you know get noisy You know any peace officer would know that what's the worst he's gonna do is get noisy You know is the guy notorious for like being a you know a gangster and pulling out a gap and you know mowing down half the neighborhood no What's he famous for? He's pushing, you know what he is? He's like those guys you used to see in the 50s and 60s movies that used to have the suitcase with the droppable legs. Hey, buddy, you wanna watch? a body you want to remember that used to be the guide to open up a little bit everything or be displayed right there you know i know whatever you want i got it you know you're going to go on and yeah and then of course everyone to be harassing so he'd fold it up and he'd head on down the street farther and he'd set up again so somebody else told me to my corner right exactly sometimes you don't know who corny do you need to know whose corners are whose members open territory are you know you fight a little over it but uh... it's not worth killing anybody over Though even if they're like fake Rolex watches the guy is selling well He's saying they're real and everybody knows you're not getting a Rolex for $30. Okay, you just know But guess what? It's not like he's really putting anybody else out of business You know if it's and even if he is it's what his he's worth killing over a $30 fake Rolex watch is that what you're telling me? For you know for the the pittance in in whatever money the skank steaks sheisters aren't getting for those cigarettes Was worth killing that man over are you out of your mind? Now if he was out there stealing like trying to kick in a door There's all kinds of possible threats there, and that's where there's a question mark, but that's not what this guy was doing See, that's just it. Because people go, well, it's like stealing, you know, like kicking in the door in a home invasion. It's like it's nothing like that. You know, in comparison, thank you for bringing that up, Mark, because in comparison, I could understand if this happened, if this was the rioting in Ferguson, if that was that, which it was about, if this man was the subject of the riots in Ferguson, I could far more understand it than backing a thug. Really? Well, again, the thing is that it's openly on tape. And the idea about him being black, I would care if he was black, white, Hispanic. Everybody knows better. To me, I'd say that the cop would... Well, look, there was a black cop there. I don't care. There are dirty black cops here. But it's still that way to America. That's why I brought that up. Yeah. It's like, well, it's okay because it was a black person supervising the murder. It's like, no, it wouldn't be okay if it was a Hispanic or an Asian person supervising the murder. It still comes down to a murderer. You can't tell me that you need to squeeze anybody to- See that's the other thing about it. What the hell is wrong with these weenies? You see how many cops are standing there? You know, I'm sorry guys. You know, if all fails, by the way, I've choked about this. My dad, there was a guy that my dad, when he was a deputy sheriff years ago in Chelsea, Michigan. And like I told you, every Saturday night guys, he'd be there from blow off steam from, you know, the week, work week. and you know what he would pick a fight with three people. Now he'd pick a fight. He wasn't going out there just telling cigarettes on the porch. Okay? We got something in the background. I hear a deep voice. But anyway, the guy would pick a fight and he'd always make it fair because this guy was like almost seven foot tall. He was just massive. He was hundreds of pounds. His wrists were the size of your legs. Okay? My dad even pointed this out. He said, if that guy wanted to really hurt somebody, there wasn't anybody that was going to slow him down unless you shot him a lot. And nobody was going to shoot him because he never even went that far. He'd get into a fight. He knew the cops when they'd show up. He'd always do it until about 11 o'clock. Then somebody would show up because the owner would call. He always knew that, hey, if he's here, there's going to be a problem. So he'd be ragdolling the three, just beating them. He'd just pop on them. He wouldn't be beating them to death. And as soon as, like when my dad showed up he goes, he walked up and he goes, no, you know, let's use Frank. I can't remember what the guy's name was. He goes, Frank, what are you doing? He goes, oh, sorry, Bill. He knew my dad by first name. And it's like immediately it wasn't, you know, you know, just brawl with anybody. It was like, okay. He goes, well, you ready to go off to the car? Okay, Bill. and he'd walk out to the car and he'd get in the back and they'd take him over to the county and he'd pay his lock-up fee and then he'd be let out and go home. Now my dad said something, he goes, even if I'd wanted to handcuff him, I couldn't because nothing I had would fit. He goes, the closest we probably could have come is if somebody had a pair of leg irons. That's how big this man was. And there, they probably wouldn't fit. This man was just a mountain, he was the kind of guy that he should have been in professional football. He's the man who should have been on the line. It doesn't make any difference if he moves fast. All he has to do is be there. No men like that. The thing about it is, where's this guy going to go with how many cops on him to begin with? How is it that all these other cops didn't have the wherewithal that when you got somebody on the ground they aren't taking control of him but they're letting somebody strangle him to death? Think about that. Oh, go ahead, Gollor, who do we have? Yeah, this is Henry. I thought I might throw in a night gate. Go ahead, Henry. Jump in there, please. In New York, I'm watching the feeds and stuff, and I gotta say, there's over 10 thoughts right now. And the Communists have showed up. A self-described Communist organization handed out a chant sheet. In the evenings, Eric tested New York City, and I got one of the sheets. And the chants... not not you know thank you henry now they're not out there now we are all behind her like hiding in the shadow there right out in everybody's face that the party is there you wanna hear the chance correct way all right racism means i can't breathe killing i can't breathe eric garner means i can't breathe shism means we got to fight back the patriot act means we got to fight back lousy schools mean we got to fit fight back unemployment means we got to fight back politicians We've got to fight back. The whole system means we've got to fight back. And finally, Capitol Inn, we've got to fight back. Kind of twisting it into a very narrow and right to the again, to demonstrate, oh, they're not doing that. Yes. Yes, they are. Have you seen Michael Moore there? Not yet. But there's a lot of people that jump out and let you guys finish up. I just thought I'd put that one in there. Michael Moore will show up, but only if there's a free lunch. Remember that. It's like Ebenezer screws in the funeral. Remember? Yeah, you know it's been pushed from the shadows for a good long time, and it's it's existed here But now it's right out in front directing it you guys Mark it happened just like that Which has been turned out? It happened just like that in Germany didn't it yeah, it happened communist Russia the same Russia was worse in Germany just like what we're seeing right now that the in this case we are the the We're not Germany as in the scenario so much as, in other words, the real scenario. Well, my point is they beat them down in the streets of Germany. But the action was the same in what we saw and documented in Germany. They beat them down in the streets of Germany. Right. That's my point. It's going to come down to what are they saying, and of course everybody that's not with the Communists is a fascist now, don't you know? But that's nothing new. That's been the agenda all along. Anybody who's opposing them is of course an enemy anyway. They just use that particular name for the moment because they're allies, the Jewish mob that run the media, communists. Everything and anything is... The Nazis! The Nazis! Well, I'll say again, the reason that the Germans were successful is because the National Socialists got out of the street and beat the liver and the snut out of the communists who were planning on beating everybody down. It can't be a one-sided fight. There had to be somebody out there that the NSDAP was fighting. Well, who were they fighting? It was so accepted that the Nazi party was able to sell the German people the thought that the Communists burned down the Reichstag. The Commies did it. In fact, it was done by the party itself in order to say, The Commies did it. Well, of course if you scrape a little bit deeper you find that the same guys were financing both parties. Both sides? Yeah, same thing we're seeing right now. This whole thing, the resources and assets of this entire operation, the Fergadishu and now in New Yorkistan. Okay, New Yorkistan is no different from Fergadishu as part of the overall manipulation. Yeah, I've been going in Fergadishu because that works well. No, go ahead BK. Okay, I had a couple of things. One is I did a quick little blitz bit of Googling and discovered that the going price for a pack of cigarettes in New York City is about $13 right now. It's down from $14.50 from last summer. That's interesting. There are a number of states where the cost is down a little bit from the previous year. The cost in New Jersey, which is right next door, is about $8. So there's probably a great deal of traffic back and forth across the border there working that $5 a pack differential just in the state tax. uh... most likely this guy was either selling new jersey cigarettes or new york city cigarettes just you know marked up to dollar peter buck and a quarter peter some like that so this business about all they were untaxed is probably a lie uh... certainly they were not uh... avoiding any federal tax might have been avoiding a city tax if they came from saying new york or from from new jersey the water but it may very well have been bought at retail in new york uh... city and just being sold at a mark up on a per unit uh... basis you know selling uh... you know single-payer out of a package of twenty at a at a mark for a dollar that we covered that right so armed they may not have been avoiding any tax at all they're just assaulting him for being a street vendor in effect right This guy was morbidly obese. Once they knocked him down, he was no threat. We both wobbled, but they better not fall, especially when they got square sides. If you watch the video, they were sitting on his chest and he was asthmatic. They're not only smothering him, but also strangling him. That's sitting on someone's chest. That's called burking. B-U-R-K. working by n g working someone sitting on their chest until they're dead that's the or whatever that actually have been able to summon it up thank you uh... but uh... and and that's also kind of speaks to the mike brown thing to and here's here's a uh... thought uh... if bruce lee had been facing that mike brown guy would never have had to pull his pistol you know put it down easily ten percent of bruce lee had been facing that you know mike brown charging refrigerator guy would never have had the police pistol would have you know taken him down probably not legally uh... it is probably too much to expect the cops to be two percent of bruce lee but they're supposed to be one percent they're supposed to they they uh... say they're professionals they claim to be highly trained to be skilled well i would say that they are not i would say that they basically took somebody off the street stuffed them in a uniform gave them uh... completely half-baked training and sent them out revenue and which is why these guys are afraid of a character like mike brown who are obviously uh... i'm drawing a conclusion here uh... has some hands-on experience with contact brawling and is not afraid to make contact Whereas a normal civilized person does have a lot of inhibitions about actually engaging hand to hand with an opponent. It's one of the things they spend a lot of time in the dojo doing, just getting people past their inhibitions. You're going to grab this lapel and you're going to put your hand here and you're going to pull there and you're going to do this stuff and you're going to apply force to an actual another person's body. uh... you know you spent years as a child being conditioned away from that sort of behavior and you know the average person uh... just is not quite up to that anymore with that they have become an adult and managed to stay out of prison all their lives and so forth and uh... you know uh... uh... copy fees really competent and trained and so on supposedly uh... knows how to do these things i don't think they do which is why they are afraid of their opponents and uh... likely to whip out the pistol and start engaging in panic fire you know the mike brown uh... incident i got one big question go ahead for the women what well i think they're going to end and for the stan said he never carries the taser and i could believe his argument because uh... they're big and clunky and awkward and uh... i think they probably don't drop them and I would be inclined to agree with that. I don't have a problem with them not carrying a Taser, but I would expect the guy to be much more competent and hand-to-hand if he's claiming to be a professional cop. Oh, absolutely. I agree with you wholeheartedly on that. They can hand-to-hand combat courses to what they train Marines to keep your gun. But I just don't hear so much about it, but yet this guy's going to jump straight to lethality. If he doesn't like Taser, well then he needs to get him a beanbag gun or something. Well, that's one of the things that's done a lot in some other countries. There's an awful lot of use of 12 gauge with rubber bullets. And the targets survive that treatment. They're hurt. You know, that bruise is nasty, but people survive it. Well, that brown guy and that other big uh... i don't know i'm i'm inclined to think of the rubber bullet is being similar to the pepper sprays and so on they they don't single-handedly take somebody down but they kept the balance so much that i could be that guy on the air and that's something you know uh... basically if you get there if you know somebody to the point where they can't see anymore they're having a hard time breathing then it's a lot easier as a measure most men can't punch as hard as that being back to me if you would like five yards most men cannot punch that hard okay also i i can tell you from first-hand experience a faithful of csc and is extremely debilitating You know, the other kids and I were assaulted using that once in high school. I went home from school and I tell you it was a couple hours before I could see. Yeah, see that's a perfect another example of another option. The quality should always be the word regardless. And you can see an example of the guy charging when he turned around and came back at the store owner in that video. He did it there. We get to the cop too. It's a pattern. Everybody has a cyclic pattern to their MO. The top also uses how many poles to the top? The top is obviously... Panic Fire has only one characteristic. It goes until empty. Yeah, well, he fired 13 rounds or so. We've got to remember, only actually fired once. The first bullet and the last bullet kind of rolled together and everything in between is just stuck to the first two. Or the first and the last. And that's how they think about it. Yeah, but it would make full auto. Yeah, you don't even know that mag's gone. If guys, remember there's five rounds in less than two seconds in a competition in match shooting. You go Woodland with a nice full chest of adrenaline, full body adrenaline and a 15 round mag. You won't even know where the hell the bullets went. I listened to part of that interview when he was being interviewed by Stephan. And then he conducted the shoot again. So he wasn't going through that. i'm not sure how much uh... we're going to have a lot of that i have a leak coach testimony not all of that guys don't make a mistake it's very clear there's no it's just time dilation for him it took a whole lot longer than in reality it took to fire those rounds or delegate no matter how you know it's uh... handlebars of your bicycle it took about a half an hour to hit the ground yeah uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh the problem is in all these situations that you were you're talking about closer combat where with the person who's already made physical contact with you and their aggressors there the problem is especially in one-on-ones it's you know traffic or who you want to believe but the problem you got with the thing in detroit in detroit in new york is it's on film and i will let you know i don't have any work in much more a clear-cut situation they were uh... you know uh... they had the guy uh... horribly outnumbered he was morbidly obese not uh... not assaulting them or anything and when they got him down they still preceded the flesh pile and bright the only thing i would argue is that we would have been also state that uh... once he was down and not moving and and maybe not breathing and so on uh... they continued to squish and men poke at him and stand around picking their noses when the mt's arrived they didn't do anything either when that leads to another topic is that there's a a uh... strange sort of dance always going between the empty from the cops the cops won't do too much to the empty because they figure well from day i may need these guys At the same time, the EMTs won't do much to the cops, especially in terms of testifying what they saw, because they need to cover when they're going into some place where people are hurt and upset and, you know, freaky and who knows who's going to flip out in what direction and so on like that. So they're kind of dancing around each other. I think that those EMTs arrived perceived that this was one of these guys that the cops intended to kill and took the cue and didn't do anything problems just like sometimes the cops actually actively keep the emt's away from patching somebody up and stopping the bleeding this time it was one of those implied things in fact the emt's were fired the next day after the video came out their supervisor saw that and said holy moly that doesn't match what you put in the report you're out of here well you know they're going to keep the emt's away just like they everywhere you have at this time it didn't look like they're restraining the empty they look like one of those uh... you know i don't think these guys want this you know i was to work on him so we're going to not really going to do it saying they're saying that uh... you must treat the police uh... demands and orders as the word of god no matter how we legal they may be and then after the fact then maybe you can hire lawyers and spend years and fortunes paying lawyers to argue about the case after the fact but uh... on on the same well the cops can commit any crime they want against you and you just have to obey yeah they're trying to promote the notion that uh... the cops word is law effectively and then you can debate after the fact that is the federal senator in pennsylvania what was his last name he didn't want to wait for the decision did he saw an action that was being taken against his family by the cops and he took his own action didn't that story will never come to send the mainstream media they'll never make a movie about that Well, there have been some legal cases that have decided actually, when the courts were a little more honest, that you can use lethal force against a cop if he's not acting legally. That came from even the John Jay, the first Supreme Court, one of their first decisions at that. That's been turned and turned and turned by the Supreme Court until, well, They tell you don't resist the cause. Well, they're trying to police a date rule. Yeah. Well, you can't fight a copy either. Well, the rest is nothing more than a assault and battery as if the mugger came up to you. Right. Correct. That's all it is. You make cases. Well, all the back of the nine 1800s and the rest of the 1870s. Now we've got a lot of cases on that. And not only that, you have the right use lethal force. Exactly right. And didn't say the capital doctrine. That's you. Your personal name is that's right. Yeah, it's just a matter of the enforcement and bringing it to the judgment. That's why I sent SWAT team for a parking ticket unpaid. Didn't show up in court kind of thing, you know? Overkill. They know. Hey Mark. Consider also the thought that one of the reasons you will have low grade cops on the street is because there are so many of them when you have to stop a warm body into hundreds of thousands of uniforms you're not going to come up with that many bruce lee well we brought this up a week or so ago rob talking about one of the reasons why this happened in ferguson is because ferguson didn't lower its standards to where it's got about the amount of black folks as cops as the community has Many communities, including New York as you just pointed out, have lowered their standards. So well, we can let this guy who can barely speak English merely far, far carved kind of goodly, he can be a copper now. He was driving a taxi last week. But again, as you point out, the standards have been lowered for communication, the standards have been lowered for intelligence, and the standards have been lowered for physical ability. You hope if a fireman comes to your house that she might be able to pick you up and carry you out. Oh yeah fat chance. She might be able to pick you up and carry you out. She might employ women in high demand jobs too. So she can pick you up and carry you out of the burning building. Please lady, fireman, fire lady, again you know. let's lower the standards and a lot of communities in ferguson is one of them that didn't lower its standards to become a cop in that community i don't know uh... one of the one of the undercurrent that's going on in ferguson is that uh... the city has been using the cops as a revenue collection mechanism to the point that they they had the whole community at the boiling point already that's why this thing blew up Behind immediate tax revenues, fines and fees and so on is their number two revenue source in the city. I think I multiplied it out and they've done some... Run that across Monroe, Michigan or Flat Rock or Springs, Arizona. Look for that same statistic. uh... i'd like to do it with the taken i think they'd they'd paint something like five hundred dollars a year out of every man woman and child in the city in that fashion so you know it's it's just a continuous thing they're just uh... you know uh... uh... there's and if uh... what they're doing is revenue or standard probably would have been smarter to go ahead and have some ethnically diverse revenuers because it's not like they're actually trying to have professional cops out there on the field, they're revenuers anyway, so may as well have the same color as the people are preying upon. No, it just means that they can't argue race. Hey, you got 15-20 guys running up your house 4 o'clock in the morning and you're kind of not awake. You got a 19-19 A4 or a Mod deuce on a pod sitting there. It kind of evens the odds up, guys. Once again, run on ammo. The first 250 round belt runs out. Well, I don't know if you've got a Mod deuce on a tripod. I don't know if you need as many rounds as there are a sail. Right. Well, then that's whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And then they added the Brown, there's just that thought of doom because they know there's no getting away. Go ahead, jump in there Mike. Hey Don, they got them $6500 at Ohio Ordinance, La Duce, Semia Auto. Yeah, I mean a full auto kit but they had no right side plate. That's dirt cheap you guys. I've seen them. Sierko brand new for $20K. Yeah. Right now. As a matter of fact they got our just posted again. You got free shipment and yeah, their oil ordinance works. I guess what I called in yesterday and that stuff's cool, but they're getting low on them and we need to get them in our people's hands. Hey, I'll tell you what, if you're looking for a semi-auto 50, it's heavier than a, gee whiz, it's heavier than an M82, but it's more dependable than an M82. You can throw rounds through that gun that the shoulder is bent as much as 15 degrees and that five pound bolt is gonna slam that bullet home. I kid you not. You could put another word there. You guys, another thing we're doing down here is we're getting a bunch of folks up to where they're building their own trucks and plating them and then putting the ring gear on top and you can mount stuff on top and you know, it's good to go squirrel hunting with out in the backwoods. Come back, come back. I only wanted to play. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum Well, by the way, let's make sure we give that out. It's Ohio Ordnance. Oh, come on, Mark. What did I just do there? Ohio Ordnance Works. I want to make sure I get the S. Ohio Ordnance Works dot com. Whatever they have on the page. They just have to... Now, how do they flag Liberty Tree Radio on the page when they make the order? They put Mark down in the little box on the webpage. They mark Liberty Tree. And if they call in, it's Liberty Tree Radio and they get free shipping until Friday. Well, cool. That's what they offer, does. Okay, guys. So again, for everybody out there, and again, that means you can order tonight still if you've got, you know, PayPal, credit card. I don't think they take PayPal, do they? Um, I don't know if they do or not. They take cash. Actually, check. All you have to do is check to see if they have the credit card section. They may have PayPal listed there. You never know. I found several to do. I didn't expect that. We're gun companies. PayPal is in a lot more places than you might think. Ohio. Go ahead. Okay, speaking of that, talking about PayPal stuff. Even Atlanticfirearms.com down south there, they got a layaway plan. You can make payments on your stuff for 45 days and make sure you make the last payment and boom, then you have it shipped to your FFL guy or whatever. That's AtlanticFirearms.com. They get a ton of stuff. and subcategories and do a little discovery kids because you never know what you're going to run into. It's kind of like their page is a little like Southern Ohio Gun in that there's a little corner there. Look what I found in that dusty little corner there. And you may not want to tell anybody until you get all you want. Like SOG. Sometimes I don't mention things on the air for a reason because all you guys listening run in and grab it before we can. That's a couple of them I'm holding back. Oh, about that problem with the 7400 solved. 30 round magazines. I can't tell you where we're getting them. Oh, okay. They are out there. I know they made some 30s. I know a couple companies did so cool. But you did find them. We found them. They're for something else, but they'll work with a little modification. When we see how it works out, I will give you the yell on that. They're $45 for five. Yeah, exactly. Whatever you got, I understand. Let us know when you're done. If they're what I think they are, I'm interested in somebody who has what those go into. If it's what they are. For instance, you can pay $50 a piece for five round magazines for an Anschutz, very high-end, 22LR, or you can pay $12 a piece for the exact same magazine, minus a little piece of orange plastic from Stevens. So, same mag. Don't forget to take your 357 and dip it in orange paint so when you go out you have an extra couple of seconds. I haven't said that on air but I was thinking the same thing many years ago. Whatever you have that's real you should probably paint the flash hider orange for household use. Yeah, under orange, you've got to be that bright under orange. Might give you a second of advantage. Yeah, that or like Mark said the other day, you put the ATF jacket on, you lay on the ground, detonate a little puss thing that makes a bunch of dust and scream at them, and they'll carry you out of the house and you don't have to worry about them finding you. You better have a hold out. Once you get out of the house, then you can, shall we say, disengage from your helpers. That's why we're all in the position that took us. Well, he's too popular as airsoft and now he's dead. That 12 year old they got shot and finished him? That was back east. No, that was back east. Oh, no, I'm sorry, back east. Yeah, he took his voice tip off and now he's sitting there dead. Right, a lot of homies are dead. And they're using that as a heavy leverage thing too when again that gun looked exactly like a real gun. Well, on the homies that they do have. The background of the cop who had problems in training earlier in a different department. and resigned from that department and went to this one. So now they're blaming that cop for some point. You have to look at the timeframe though too and the cop's mentality. I do this not so much as sympathy but reading the whole of the event. In the timeframe of riots in Ferguson, here you've got even a youngster 12 years old purported to be brandishing a gun and he pulls up on the scene and the boy points the gun at him. There was no orange tip on that gun. If a 12 year old was raising a gun to you, I ask you this. and you had the ability to defend yourself, you're thinking this 12 year old has no real measure of what he's about to do. He is a lot more prone to do it if that's what he wants to do than a grown man who might think for a moment about what he knows about life and what he's about to do. Hey Don, the young fella down here at the shard in Ohio, 14 years old, goes into the school with the 22 and shoots. a bunch of children here. Right down the road from me. Right down the road from me. My friends, like I said, I had a bunch of friends with kids in the school. You know, that's a sorry situation, but at that age, they might ponder on that. They might think about this and plot and do all kinds of things to get ready for it for months or even a year. But still, at that age, have no measure, no true measure of what they're really about to do. Then the kid sits there and the cop asks him, you know, and the kid's basically, no, there's no reset. I screwed up, you know? Yeah, yeah. There's no reset and they can't hit the button. It's not a video game. Not rewind, yeah. You can't push the pause. And I'll still stop bleeding if I push pause. Yeah. It don't work like that. Again, you know, we talk, I'm going to do this because we talk about gun safety. I live in a house where steps away at the most, there's a weapon, be it an edged weapon, a firearm or whatnot, or I'm going to bludgeon you to death with something that's here in my house by purpose. I feel very comfortable in my small castle. But you know what? I bring to example, remember about three years ago, the cop that left his house and his wife standing at the door waving bye-bye and right after he left, she heard a bang in the upstairs? And this was a cop. And he had left not his service weapon because he was going to work. He left a loaded gun on top of a dresser where he thought that little boy, three or four years old, could never get to. And that child climbed up there and grabbed that gun. And now a big slide gun, you guys, can you imagine a little three or four year old, even maybe a five year old, putting one in the chamber of your 1911 or your Glock? Well, that's one... And then probably my point here is, there was probably one in the chamber of that gun. A large autoloader is intrinsically safer from kids. than either a revolver or a long gun. Yeah, well actually children kill themselves with long guns all the time, not because of the discharge, but they get hit by the stock, well, hard enough to kill them. Yep, because they don't know what they're doing. Again, that goes back to that measure of a child versus an adult that was brought up moments ago. And we are at the top. oh yeah we are actually uh... pay what for the record for a further dot night vision technology you have it we have available and how can we hold you got the number please i've got a couple of the three nineties left i can put that that for power first generation comes like three oh eight capable right your mailbox for three hundred ninety dollars there's a second generation gunfight there's a second generation viewer entry-level green screen there now rapidly closing to that's what it would be in three level green guys We can talk about that. Give me a call. My phone number is 2317968458. Goggles are gun sights. Screen screens are thermal. 2317968458. Thank you Mark. Very good. And again, I've got my poor pod keyboard helper here, the 20 pound gray thing. and again we're off the air guys we're going right to work on some of our radio problems in fact I've got people right around the corner our concern is to get ready for either what happens apparently the 9th although we're running around the Christmas holiday being prepared for the stupid okay I hear the music in the background guys organize our McQuippet train is militia get whatever you can done we've got an enemy threat on the horizon and Thank you Mark, God bless you God bless you America your primary concerns in such a reform of the international financial system? We are first let me say that this is an issue which needs to be addressed but it needs to be addressed in a very thoughtful way so as not to further aggravate whatever conditions exist there.