December 4, 2014
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1h 1m
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Mark Koernke discussed escalating federal land seizures and harassment tactics, particularly regarding the Bundy Ranch situation in Nevada and potential December 9th enforcement actions. He covered BLM overreach in multiple states, detailed low-tech defensive tactics including decoy mannequins and thermal signature reduction methods, and explained military deception techniques used successfully against NATO forces in Kosovo. The show included caller input about government PDF documents outlining land restrictions and concluded with extensive tactical guidance on grenades, thermal concealment, and survival strategies.
- bundy ranch
- blm
- nevada land seizure
- december 9th
- federal land
- thermal imaging
- ghillie suits
- decoy tactics
- kosovo
- thermal signature
- grenades
- preparedness
- government overreach
- militia tactics
- land rights
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We're on AM and FM microstations, CB base stations, and UltraNet Technologies East and West of the Mississippi along with Alaska. We're in the homework network from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida. From the bottom of Florida to the arc of the Gulf of Mexico. Headed to Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, Arkansas, Oklahoma, big chunk of Nebraska, a whole bunch of Wyoming to include both the third, the fifth, and the 13 sisters on the left side of the state. Good. Well actually stood bright eat bright afternoon for you guys you're behind us by a bit So it's mid afternoon for you and probably still some sunshine overhead Turn it back to the east and while we're waving to the left coast over there with a great state of Jefferson We sweep across the plains leap over the burgeoning banks of the Mississippi and line in these smokies with the restaurant crews grandma teams, okay teams and the mob bell grandma consortium of retired telecommunications workers bring us the gold Anyway It is a beautiful, well right now it is, no way, it's Thursday, it is the 4th of December, it is the 6th year of Opin-phabian, Socialist and Soviet Socialist occupation of America with a K. 2014, old earth calendar and counting down the days to the end of the year. Here we are with the 4th of December. So that means it's heading around the corner here somewhere. We're going to be looking at the next big number chain. And let's see, what is it? 3 20ths of the 21st century will be gone. Is that how we look at it? That'd be kind of cool. Anyway, we got a caller. Who do we have? Call or jump in there. Yeah, this is Mark. You know, I just heard on Henry's show, one of the callers called in and he said that December 9th was D-Day on this Monday thing. Is that really the true D-Day on the Monday, is December 9th? I don't know about this. December of the 90-day window from the 10th would have put it out into January the first week. Now, if somebody has come up with other time tables, that would make sense with them trying to ruin the holidays. I wouldn't put it past the fools to be stupid enough to flap their yap and jump the gun because they're desperate with regard to beating the gong right now. So we need to be prepared for that. I guess our best bet there is to look to see what the people out there at the Bunkerville area, what they know about what's transpiring, because this isn't just going to affect the Bundy Ranch. I think the most important thing here to remember is we're going to have a lot of friends and allies out there, guys. They just declared everybody in those communities enemies of the state, you're not going to be able to get off the road and zip your pants and piss on the ground. You won't be able to. It will be a high crime. They do that up here in Michigan. I'm going to tell you something right now. The shysters that we have that are with the Fed DNR, the Fed Rangers up here, like over towards where the underground base is by Oscoda that we're not supposed to know about, that underground base that we're not supposed to know about, that completely secret underground base where all the semi-trucks go in to a national forest and they just park in the middle of the woods. They are Air Force drivers and Air Force semi trucks. That base, that one we are not supposed to know about, do you get my drift here? Well anyway, up in that area, that's been the big thing. If you stop along the road up there, they charge you with urinating in public. Now we are talking out in the middle of so far a BFE that you might not even see a deer. You know what I mean? It's so far into the deep pine forest that the deer usually don't gatter bait there. They're looking for water and munchies. It doesn't mean they won't stick around with this overhead cover if the snow starts to get funky. It's the idea that this has been going on here and we've seen this for quite some time. Well, we know how fruitcake and how perverted the BLM is and since they're communist Chinese employees working for a foreign power on American soil, They already beat on people. Remember what the precursor to the attack on the Bundy's was? If you got out and you were along the side of the road and you stepped off the road, they were coming in, the BLM was, and beating people up, remember? Now, their plan is to do that for anything and everything that somebody does there. So that means the locals of every color and flavor, no matter who they are, are in the same risk from the communist Chinese BLM employees that everybody else is, say, at the Bunny Ranch. See, this is going to be an equal opportunity oppression thing that is designed to steal property, piss people off, create government-sponsored terror against the American people. In fact, it's international government-sponsored terror by more than one country because the communist Chinese are the ones trying to steal the real estate. That's why this whole thing with the farmers and the fruit growers on the west side of the country, the idiots that are in California, let it happen because they're card-holding stinking communist party members to begin with. Rather than supporting their local farmers, they helped to subvert and undermine the ranchers, the farmers, and the fruit growers. and then the communist Chinese were slid right in there. Well, that means they got money in their back pockets, so they should be dragged out and hung. I don't have any qualms about saying that because I will guarantee any of the time, let's put it this way, if that was some stinking illegal alien that owned the land, not only would they be financed, but they'd have seven years tax-free for any business they did. So think about the twisted arrangement there. Go ahead, call her. Who do we have? Yeah, the way I found that was whenever you said to go to Henry's site, whenever the Bundy sent that letter, well somebody in the comments had a link from the government which I downloaded the PDF. Okay. And that's when that December 9th came. I read that PDF that they had... that was put out through the government and that's what December 9th and they're going to put it into subdivision everything else. I attempted to say some stuff was spiked the other day but it was kind of long and drawn out. Well then that means that they're actually jumping the 98 window but that doesn't mean they wouldn't do that. I mean again like I said maturity can be 30, 60 or 90 days. They may be initiating what is considered to be a pilot warning period as of the 9th. and what they'll do is stop everybody and anybody and harass them and oh I need to look in your car by the way too and I need to search you and you're not supposed to be here oh well it won't be until maybe the 9th of January but you know we're starting this as a pilot program to get everybody to understand that we'll kill you if you show up on government land see that's what they'll be doing they're gonna be doing the old yeah pretty soon we're gonna be shooting people for being on government land because Well, the communist Chinese want your property and they're going to get some of the US real estate too. That could be possible. Again, I have to look at the code because it could be that it's a 60 day window of maturity for the first phase of operations and there's something attached to that. That's good. Again, if you can, we need to post that up so everybody can start to pass it around too because we need it out where people can see it. Sound good? Yeah, I'll go to... I think you've got a contact us on your website too, right? Repeat? I'm sorry, repeat, repeat. Okay, yeah, if I go to your website, there's a place that I can email that PDF to you, right? Yes, but I'll tell you what, you can do it to ours, or I believe Ed would probably be the better choice right now. I believe I'm going to double check them at, so look at that. Liberty Tree Radio at Yahoo.com. There we go. Go repeat that Ed and go slow. Liberty Tree Radio at Yahoo.com. Liberty Tree Radio at Yahoo.com. Very good. Okay, very nice. Thank you. And we'll post that too on the page if we can, so it's right there on the front page for everybody to find, because if it's the 9th, Then you're looking at days before they start a week, less than a week before they start the next phase of whatever they're going to do out there. That's why we need to pay attention. Do we do it before Christmas? This is in line with all of the fracking, the slash screwing up, the slash putting a stick in the spokes holiday season. They already did the Thanksgiving thing or tried to put pressure on it with the whole garbage with Ferguson slash Fergadishu. It seems to me that Fergadishu has dropped off the map, kids, if everybody hasn't noticed. It took only a few days. So whatever is happening in Fergadishu right now, it's kind of on the low end of the cycle, which means that now they're going to have to pump up the next ore, try to overlap and integrate them somehow, which is maybe why they're going to compress that by 30 days. Something to take into consideration there. Again, out of desperation. Because the bad guys ain't looking too good right now as far as I'm concerned. I'm not going to do what they're going to do. That's the main drag going into Vegas. So what they got to do, they got to put up road blocks and start searching. No, the idea is like what they did before. When you tried to get off the road, when you stepped up, if you parked your car on the side of the road and you start walking away from the car out in the desert, you're in violation. In fact, remember they've got that picture taking thing going on too and I'm going to wait to see if they don't try and, you know, it's like the seat belt wall. I don't think I saw your seat belt. That's why I pulled you over. It's the new version of the, I didn't, couldn't see the light on your license plate. I think it's off. I had to pull you over. I thought I saw you taking pictures. You know that's illegal to do that on federal land. They started that already because you can't take pictures of the public areas because implying that they have a copyright. It's detrimental because people will look at it and they will want to see it. We're making it so nobody will see it. We're going to make sure nobody's on the land. See how they're again, and progressively that's what they're going to do. But only the wealthy people should be allowed to walk in places like this the very very wealthy and that's why we're driving all you peasants off it Because we don't need you around here That's exactly where they're headed with this It doesn't mean you can call them socialists or call them communists or call them, you know monarchus. There's no difference same game different day Well, I guess I said I 15 goes right to his key and then you go If you look to your right, you look to your left, there's nothing but desert for the next 85 miles and before you hit Vegas, they're like, I'm just wondering, you know, what the hell are they gonna do? They gotta close all that shit? I mean, that's just ridiculous. Well, there are going to be, okay, all secondary trails, if you read the list of things that they're going to do, all trails, pathways, walking, hiking, group activities, camping, all that's banned. That's the whole idea and initially they'll probably make it like limited walk in a certain area you know a controlled area or direction and They need to know where you are and if you step off that you're an eco freak and you have violated you know you've created some form of environmental impact detrimental because your your feet your footprint was on the gravel or the other on another pathway or on the ground the ground And that is just destruction, that's an environmental destruction and you'll need to be charged $1,000 or $2,000 or $3,000 and charged with a felony. They do this in Alaska already. They've been doing this to try and drive people off their land up in Alaska for years. We've covered this. You've got some people that were up in Alaska that off the federal land is all around them. They bought this old mining concern which they didn't want the mine They just wanted the property because they want to build a house out in the middle of nowhere Well, they were going to use the original old this old like really rough as a cob Washout road that goes right up to the mine Well, because some other person covets their land and some pigs up there, the Jewish Mafia runs Alaska anyway, why do you think the Israeli flag is in the governor's office? Okay, take a look at the pictures. Look at what she was up there. What's her name? I don't have any of her name right now. If you pay attention, there was an Israeli flag in the office. Really? Why? for the governor's office of alaska tells you something about for the few number of people up there once again here's this minority that's ripping everything off well their argument was this is the scam they were running that back in 1899 that road was used by the gold miners. It's an historical slash an environmentally protected stretch of land now. Even though it's washing out, it's turning virtually back to land because nobody's walking on it. Nobody could use it and if you tried to drive a vehicle on it you were going to be charged with an environmental impact statement and it's a $10,000 fine and you'd be charged with a felony and they were going to shoot people if they were on this path only if they were on that property now. So that was an ongoing battle and of course they were thinking they were going to win because they were in the right... Well I was saying that was back when we knew about the $8,000 Russian helicopters. You can get helix helicopters which have the cargo hook and the air ambulance clamshell in the back. They've got a high rear stabilizing arm. It's not a stabilizing arm, it's just a boom. The helix have opposing rotors. You can buy those. The guy in Montana had $800,000 apiece. I wrote those people right away and said, hey, with all the piss-wooling they're doing, Go buy yourself one of these choppers, get it up to spec. They were easily brought up to spec quite economically back in the day. Then use it for an airlift chopper for the area. Go right around them. Go right over them. For $8,000, that's the price of buying them. That's less than buying a truck. It would have been an idea. I don't know if they ever did it. I know a bunch of our other guys did. They bought it the Helix, Russian Helix, when those first came in after the wall fell. You can buy them for between $6,000 and $11,000 apiece. The average price was down around $8,000. And I know at least one group that bought three of them. Parts are easy to get, easy to maintain, Russian built like a brick dog house, doesn't have all the BS that our choppers have on them as far as a lot of extra gobbledygook, this micro. And they just keep running. So that would have been the solution. So I see basically they're bold enough now the kosher mafia is just sliding down into the continental United States and you're gonna see more and more of this. Just like they do in Alaska right now. It's just that how many of us drive up to Alaska? Go to Alaska is like going to the stinking Mars. As far as how you're treated you're going to a foreign country now. And because you got a waterway or you have to go through Canada, there are total pricks up there. And it's not accidental, they're dickheads. Excuse me, they're just dinks. and everybody knows it. So what they're doing is it's a big piece of wealth, it's just like where's the oil right now that they're stealing and taking out of the country, etc., etc., etc. Think about it. So I just see it being an expansion. Whatever they're going to do down in Arizona, it's the kickoff. They've upped the ante so that they can be more aggressive, even more aggressive than they were this last time. and they will be stupid and someone's probably going to get shot and it's going to escalate very quickly and that's why everybody needs to be ready for it. If the ninth is when they're going to start, it'll be a warning, a 30-day warning order period is what I'm thinking if it isn't the initiator. And what they'll do is they'll stop and harass everybody. You know, you could be out there having some fun and they'll, whee! It's like, you know, in 30 days you won't be able to be here. Uh, your point? Ah stop ya, I need to cross check your vehicle. Uh, you want you to go stuff it up your hind end. Well, what are you hiding? Uh, really I don't know how to use it for you Chinese personnel on American soil. Why don't you just stuff it up your hind end and kick rocks and get on down the road. Cauchu B. Bug Bum, Toh Toh Pye Tippe. Now, cool Tippe Tippe Tippe. This other article just came out, Mark. Uh, Yip, uh, it's on Henry's Scroll. Uh, they're gonna try and, uh... The governor is going to try and sue the feds from keeping the, get the remaining, he wants just half of that 7.4 million acres in Utah that the fed currently owns. He's, the governor of Utah is saying that screw you, I want 3.2 million of it given back to Utah. Did you see that on Henry's scroll? I was just wondering, I mean, is that just a bunch of BS or is that really a, Well, where have we seen anything so far with this administration where they've actually stopped anything? In fact, why is it we're looking at suing them? Why aren't we just looking at charging them flat out? How is it these states don't know how to apply themselves? You see my problem with that? We're going to sue them. What are you talking about? That's Admiralty Law. What that tells you is the cheap whores that are at the state level that sold us all out, the 50 prostitutes. Well, there weren't 50 prostitutes back then. There were only 48. But, actually, we had 47. In 1913, I'd have to double check. Anyway, fact of the matter is that, remember, the governors all signed on it. Well, by 1933, there were 48 states. Yeah. 33, when they went for the gold, all those governors were all prostitutes. You just got to have water in my cup. It's better tasting than your cat water. Anyway, go ahead. I'm glad you're able to make good use of that information we sent you. And these multipliers, if you look on YouTube, it replicates your... Oh yes, yeah, yeah, exactly. One of the things that we need to remember is not to have... I mean, you can buy silhouettes for Target. I know you know what I was talking about before, but I point out to everybody, not many people stand in attention, guys. So whatever we have, and not for any period of time. What we need is some natural posing type of characters and that's why mannequins are really cool but you can do it yourself. Think of how you would stand in a rested port, like a low port position, muzzled down, and that's how you need to be able to stand so that the weapon that's being held by the mannequin is appropriate, the dummy. The other thing is weight. The older dummies have more of a plastic material like a plaster paris material to them but it's actually plastic. It's what I believe was called years ago. There's another term for it. Different company names. That's why when they chipped the outer surface had like a plastic overlay and it would not powder out but it would break. It would fracture. We don't really care about if they are broken. I will remind everybody again, they're going to be covered with clothing. If you've got a break, cover it with duct tape like you're talking about, just a piece, just to keep it together. Lighter plastic ones have been available. Problem is that right now, if they're in good shape, they're commanding a high price. But if you've got a source like around any of the big cities, I know around Chi-town there's places that have industrial surplus, and usually they have mannequins piled like cordwood. I was going to grab a couple last time I was in Chicago, somebody had a yard sale because he had like a dollar a piece, but we absolutely had no place to put it for all the stuff that we'd picked up. We virtually had the vehicle already full to the roof and the sides, and there was no room up front. I had stuff sitting on my lap, and these mannequins were high-end mannequins for a dollar a piece to be perfect for the kind of job we're talking about. And don't forget, there are a few kids. Grab some kids' size, medium size, and mix size, or make some. That's a little more realistic in that you have a wide range of people, plus you have even some civilians. The bad guys, they want to try and shoot civilians. We know that the government loves doing that. Look what they did at Waco. So that's an enticement for them. In fact, it's a high confidence builder. If they think they're going to be able to murder some children, there's high brownie points for the occultists. So that's a great bait to lure them in and gives you the opportunity. Wow, cool. And by the way, I don't have any qualms about, about, about, about, about. There we go. That finishes that one too. So, good point. And again, that's on YouTube. I haven't really looked to see what solutions they have. I know that we could do some quickies. In fact, I was thinking about even using what we've done using plastic containers, milk jugs, etc. to create the basic silhouette. One good thing about military uniforms, they're frumpy. You know what I mean? So there really is a lot of forgiveness with regard to the clothing and how it bags out. So that really kind of feels a lot too. The duct tape method allows somebody to do it in the field. They probably have duct tape somewhere around. Exactly. Well the other thing I didn't get into, we were talking about creating thermal images. If you can get a hollow dummy, all you do is take a standard little parquet candle or any of these little cheapy from the dollar store candles that are bigger, put that at the crotch level or even down on one of the feet or one on each foot in the leg, and literally you have a thermal chimney and with the uniform, the clothing and the gear and everything in place, I guarantee that's going to give a very high confidence thermal target. It's not so hot that it's going to burn the thing up, but it's going to create a progressive build up in temperature. And since your body naturally does the same thing, remember that 90% of your body heat leaves out the top of your head. And a hollowed structure like that would be ideally suited. You could make a couple of hobo stoves. Put the candle inside the can, in other words a soup can or a tomato juice can. That way it's protected so you've got a thermal standoff with everything. Put a little sand in the bottom, put the candle inside the can on top of the sand so you've got a little bottom weight. Now the thing is pretty well secure. In fact you can even kind of surreptitiously move it around here and there a little bit so that the thing, the character changes posture. At least changes basic position and attitude. Which is cool. There's a lot of little tricks. I grab all the cheap sunglasses I can. Sunglasses cover a multitude of sins, especially with dummies. Mannequins, because then you don't have to worry about matching, making the eyes work. Because the eyes are the toughest thing to do. Well, since everybody is into wearing these razors, stuck up close to the face glass around the eye like an eye cup, that's fantastic. It's a normal thing in the field now. So it's not something that would make you go, hey, that's kind of strange. Instead, it's like, well, everybody else is doing it. It's just variations on what everybody buys in the way of sunglasses now. So that would be a cool solution too. And again, you either go to the dollar store or what I do is watch the junk boxes. I have cases of sunglasses. Anybody tosses out sunglasses, anybody tosses out AM FM cassette players, CD players, in fact I got one right here, I just powered up, I got a whole stack of them for free. They're all running. But for making noise, especially at night, you don't want a lot of noise guys. You want enough noise so it's like somebody's trying to conceal, but made mistakes or it isn't quite really where they should be. And that sound for the price of a throwaway cassette player and a set of earbuds and turned up a little bit with some radio chatter and then quiet and then checkpoint 2, copy. That's just one of the many things that can create a very high probability, high confidence target that is of no loss to you, but a great way to bait in the son of a buggers. Just like at Ferguson when they were playing with them on the roof. You'd be able to laugh your hind end off to have the characters up and in play, because obviously they deployed in darkness. And then for them to think that they're scaring somebody, Meanwhile, you go out and wait a little bit and you pick the one dummy up and walk him away out of sight. Bring the other dummy out, set him up, walk back over and disappear back in the stairwell and back to work. I think it would be a great way to wag your weenie at him if you wanted to. Otherwise, if you just leave him in place, I'd like to see how long they'd stare at the dummy before they try to figure out why he's not going anywhere. You know what I mean? You tie up an idiot for a long time like that. We were really toughing it out, man. They were staring at them and they were staring at us. And we were staring at them and he's still staring at us. And we were staring at him for three hours and we were going to out-stare him, man. It's a dummy, dummy. And I guess... You're going to have to at least have one of those dummies marked with a really good working middle finger. Oh yeah, well that'd be one of the things, you could put a little motor system, like I said, just a little bit of robotics goes a long way. You could have the hand off to the side and out of sight, the rifle being held and over the shoulder, like in a sling, but still, again, an Airsoft gun is the optimum solution, guys, and they're a cheap Airsoft. I already brought it up. $8, $11, $12, it'll get you an AR-15, a pump shotgun. Now, they may not work because they're in the boneyard. but that's not why we're buying them. You can put an entire infantry unit out there completely outfitted with M4s or 8Ks, and it would be virtually impossible to tell the difference between them and your boys. The cool thing is, like I said, you could have a team of 10 men could put 30 more men in the field easily. If you did it right, with a little bit of transport, they could quickly move everything into play, and with their movements, minimal, but also tactical, along with other sound and with other sound devices and radio. The bad guys would have high confidence from above or out to the front or however they're looking at it that they're seeing a location that is of interest. In fact, one person could manage a site. When the UGOS were deployed against, when we were illegally bombing Kosovo, We were illegally trying to help the Israelis steal the gold, the coal, and the minerals from Kosovo. We were illegitimately bombing Kosovo. Did I say that? We were illegitimately bombing Kosovo because we were. We had no declared war. Well, the Yugoslavian army protecting its real estate deployed and they bragged up and I've told you about this many times guys They bragged up that we knocked out 90% of their tanks and we destroyed their T-72s and we destroyed their APCs and then when the ceasefire came and everybody came out of the woodwork to go to their new demarcation lines the Yougos were all smiling and the American mech forces if you pay attention on the ground their expressions were flat or shocked Why? Because the U-Go's were a Class A military force and the Serbs are still pretty good fighters, although I hopefully haven't prostituted out to the kosher mafia. But back then they were prepped to fight World War III and they were a Euro army, which means they knew what the threats were. They understood the technology and they trained for it. One guy would maintain a tank platoon. How would he do that? Cardboard or plywood. Nice basic silhouette. Big carpet roll tube for the main gun tube and or you know against stovepipe whatever they could get. PVC pipe was readily available or irrigation pipe. So they'd make a main gun tube then they'd again paint the whole thing properly. Add the little widgets on the outside to create high confidence for the basic silhouette. Put a five gallon pail on its side in the back. where the engine compartment should be and a little access door back there and then camouflage net the thing up. Dig up and you know again have the engineers put a position in play camouflage net the thing up to protect it but just not quite perfectly. Then one guy goes around with some coal or some firewood every hour or two and adds a little more fire to that five gallon pail that's burning where the back of the tank and where the engine should be creating a thermal signature. And by God we destroyed a whole lot of cardboard and a whole lot of stovepipes and a whole lot of PVC and we were proud we spent probably a million dollars on each missile that went right into that pile of cardboard that PVC pipe and well you guys did lose a camouflage net you know what I mean and that's why they had all this brag up about how they were so sure they destroyed so much equipment and this and that and the other really Now if they're really smart, I mean and I know they were, sheet metal, if you've got anybody that's got tin knockers and you've got a kind of sheet metal, you make the outer body. You lay that where everything is flat where it should be on the tank. Pieces of board to make the basic silhouette as far as like the deflection ribs on the front of the tank for a small arms fire, a fake hatch with another piece of board cut out, you know, just cut out. Don't even have to clean it up. Paint it green like everything else, just lay it on top of your basic silhouette. Camp Commander's cupola hatch, same way. PVC pipe, a couple different sizes. A big block of wood, drill a hole, paint it black, and you got a dashika machine gun up there in the main commander station, and you couldn't tell the difference at distance. And since you got all the time, you know, again, you take the time, because what's your life worth? All the time in the world, kids. And we but we but we spent millions of dollars. We were proud We even told Time magazine how many we killed and we were sure that there couldn't be more than a handful of tanks left in all of Yugoslavia and Then when the ceasefire came it turned out about 95 98 percent of what they put, you know down and just made disappear Came right back out and drove home oops It kind of mucked up and lied, didn't you? A little miscalculation because you were fighting a real force in a temperate environment. It wasn't just flat pancakes and desert warfare is always like what we saw in Iraq. Always. No matter what era desert warfare has been fought. This is why we need to be prepared for the unique situations of Nevada should it expand. There is the ability to protect yourself, but you're going to have to employ and be prepared to deploy a lot of additional technology. Not an excessive amount, but a minimal amount to get the job done. Just something to think about there. Remember that contrary to, and they've been showing some videos I was watching on here where they were going after some guys that were on a ridge, and I would point out That at a given at one given point there during the video Almost everybody disappears now You can still see their heads because they're they got their heads up and they're observing what's out there on the horizon They're looking back at but I would point out that if you had radio communications and you only need one spotter or Better still if you are going to be observing, you know something as simple as a regular box mirror trench periscope illuminates your seat your signature completely and allows you to see. And if you make it square with a large wide panoramic, you can make it rectangular with a large panoramic mirror so that you get good width, good height. Guys, you'll have reasonable observation skills and capabilities to be popping your head over the objective. But guess what? That periscope offers no thermal signature. And the basic rule is do the cover of the box in an irregular size. Don't make it nice and square and neat. Bump it up a little bit. Put a little ghillie on it, by the way, too. Make it so it looks more like the terrain. See, there's all kinds of low-tech solutions. As it is, if they were under cover, they were invisible. And that was demonstrated, which nobody's supposed to think about because, oh, we got someone when they're running. Well, if you're out in the open and you're running, yeah, but I'm going to point something else out about being under fire. You already know that they're trying to kill you and if you've seen the hits, it's like, wow, if they do hit you, you're pretty well dead, but that's how war works. You know, it's a bummer. Anyway, fact of the matter is, if you pay attention when they fire a target up, they have to stop firing. Why? You'll notice that when they run a burst downrange where they haven't hit somebody, If you run with the wind, with the material they've kicked up to include their phosphor rounds, their trace rounds, you'll notice you can't see through the dust cloud that they kick up. Anybody paying attention to that? In fact, when they fire, you'll notice a series of secondary thermal strikes which are spalled off of those tracer or those incendiary rounds, or HE rounds. You'll notice they're creating secondary hot burns that are almost as big as the target they're after, or at the very least the size of somebody's head. But it's not the guy's head they were shooting at yet. They will eventually shoot at him because he runs into the open. But if you pay attention, especially when they've dumped 10, 15, 20 rounds, if you're not hit and they've already dumped those rounds and they've run that particular burst through, moving with the smoke allows you to move without being detected. The dust, the clutter, the smoke, and remember, they're going to be distracted by the other multiple thermal strikes that they've made from their own fire. There's just a little feel go watch some of these videos and see what I mean think about it Look at what I'm talking about. I can't do it to you on the radio here I can describe it to you, but I can't do it for you You're gonna have to look yourself, but these are little things to pay attention to now Reduce your thermal signature more extensively Yes, you can the better thermal blankets work best the smaller ones will work too But remember that you use them in conjunction with other materials The blackout suits that were made for the ATF virtually made them invisible now you want to know what they did there's a three chemical process all commercially available That was used to treat their ghillie suits that were used at Waco How do we know this the company that did it was out of Ohio? We know their technique the guy's technique and yes part of his ghillie suit design incorporates a thermal blanket Oh, wait a minute. What does this guy do for a living? He builds ghillie suits that are used to hide from modern technology and normal observation. And the foundation material underneath the cover cloth that's used, the basic green or camouflage cloth that's used to affix the rest of the material. Well, there is a more sophisticated standard, you know, we'll camouflage one side and foil down the other, you know, aluminum colored on the other. You've seen them. That's the basis for his ghillie suit and it's the basic model that they sold to the ATF. That's why it's hard to see. You can see the gunfire, but where is the person? Why am I not seeing a heat strike off of the person? It's because they're using a low-tech but sophisticated ghillie suit. There's no special ray guns, there's no special field generators, that's all BS. They're just knowing how to use the chemicals that are off the shelf that are by the way sold in bow hunting companies and with sporting goods stores. There are different formula mixes and different brands. using all three of the basic ones that are on the shelf when you check the chemical composition, cover all of the light spectrum that is detected by all of the radiation light spectrum detected by the thermal imaging systems. There's some guy that put something out on YouTube. I think one of the reasons that they do this, it's kind of like the little article that was done about that cop, the supposed police chief from, remember from Pennsylvania. We talked about this. Well, pay attention and be cautious. They put it out there because they want everybody to not to do certain things. Oh, it won't do any good at all. Really well, I'll tell you what, I'll just do it anyway and take my chances because between using lots of pieces of real estate between me and them and all the wood and junk I can find and a thermal Well, that thermal blanket still reflects a percentage no matter what and it's going to cool down my outer target areas. So if my arse is hanging out or my gear is hanging out, if it's covered with that blanket and using the poncho blanket with the overgillie suit with the thermal reduction material added to that, ponchos are a quickie and easy to build in that respect. Using the thermal blanket as the basis for dimension and cutting it as a poncho system with a hood You then apply your outer cloth layer, whatever camo pattern you want to use, and there's all kinds of camo patterns you can build. Then add your ghillie material over that and saturate that material. You soak that in the infrared reduction materials that are available over the counter. Once you've let them dry, then you apply them in their variations in colors and you fret them. And you take the stuff that you've fretted off of the burlap and you save it and use it for other projects. Why? Because it's already permeated with the anti-IR technology so it can be used in what we call small ties and doing small bobbits and such so that you can improve your other pieces of equipment like covers for your scopes, covers for your barrels to reduce thermal imaging there. Oh, that would be kind of nice, wouldn't it? Remember, you fire the weapon and then you put it back undercover. Or you use your poncho as a shooting veil to cover the shooting position and to actually work under so that your weapon, even though it may activate, well guess what? The poncho covers the barrel, the action, and you. Well, then from above there's no real, you know, like dark line or bright line because remember that's what your barrel looks like in a thermal system. That straight line that's kind of hot, not really a naturally occurring thing out there in the environment, is it? So by concealing that and by the way, I'll go back to tanks. Do you all understand that tanks have a thermal reduction shroud on them, also a bore evacuator? Did you know that? Have you wondered why there's some kind of, in fact it's because it's a hot target kid. Think about it, you fire one round, what's the thermal build up? How many calories are built up going down that tube? You fire a second round at another tank, boom! Third target tank, 300 meters, fire fire fire fire! That's an emergency, if you use a 300 meters you're in trouble. and he fires loader, loader, one round hash, hash immediate, hash one round, hash loaded, loader, target, tank, 800 meters, hash round fire, hash fire, poof, poof, down range. Well he just fired three rounds really fast. How much energy you think is built up in that barrel? You ever see what comes out of the end of that tank? Of the end of that tank tube? Yeah. So you see, these are all things that have been addressed. Let me point something out. We talked about the engine compartment. The military has already been doing this for years, thermally reducing the engine cover. How do they do that? You'll notice there's no real emphasis on this, by the way, as far as talking about it. But anybody who is a treadhead knows that the M60A1 The big changes from the M60A1 had some protection, but say from the 48A3 to the M60A1 and then to the M60A3, progressive and very specific improvements in thermal reduction screening of the engine compartment and the main gun tube. Two of the hot spots on the tank. Wow, and that's a tank. So if we can hide a tank or do a better job of hiding a tank, I don't think your Harry Heinden is that hard, but they don't want you to think about it. You're not supposed to figure that out. Oh, why bother? Well, I'll tell you what, I'll take my chances and maybe I'm stupid, but wait a minute, maybe I'm not. Wow, I might even live to see the next day and the day after that. By the way, if I put like I said, put your hind end between whatever it is you hear, helicopters, planes overhead, more junk between you and them is the key. Looking at the helicopter or trying to look at it, I don't know why you need to. Haven't you seen a helicopter before? Use your ears. Keep your pumpkin out of sight. Why? Because your pumpkin is something they really notice. Those big round objects are just like those narrow straight objects that are like 16 inches to 30 inches long depending on the barrel. And when they get hot, they're really not naturally occurring. OK, think about it guys. Anyway, ideas, not just complaining about the problems, you need to think ahead. It's not hard to do. The big thing is trying to find the best price for the technology. Don't forget that other objects out there, you know, kicking up heat, can be used for deception or distraction. Example. The star shell flares, the cluster flares, another way to throw more thermal signatures out there. You've got dust kicking up, they're busting stuff up. You pop a flare, throw that into the mix while you're moving with the cloud and with the thermal cloud that they've generated with the fire that they've already done, if you've survived. And it'll give you distance. It will spread you out so you're not clustered up. Remember, Starshell always put distance between each other if you have that kind of contact and you're a gorilla force. Starshell, move towards the rally point and or if need be, Starshell and avoid all contact until you return to a secondary cash point. Not to your base of operations. Never go back directly to your base of operations if you've ever made contact. Always remember that. Just because they're not firing at you doesn't mean that you haven't become of interest. If you've taken fire and then fire is ceased, there may be other reasons for not shooting at you. They're curious about where you'd like to go. So again, fire proper planning prevents piss poor performance. We never return if having taken fire. We never return to a primary location. We return to a location that can be easily and is heavily observed and in fact is also covered with friendly fire. Something else you need to remember and these are things we should talk more about. Also again, I cannot emphasize enough before we get to the top of the hour, Mr. Grenade is not your friend. Always remember that. I watched another image where somebody pulled the pin, let's the clapper fly, you know, the handle, and is counting. Well, you might be counting and get to two, and that's the last word you'll ever utter. You don't know if somebody's had a bad day at the factory. You don't know if it was Friday and somebody's planning on going to the dance. They're not really paying so much attention to the machine and the fuse cutter as they're paying attention to the clock and waiting for four o'clock to hit so they can un-arse the AO. Now because of that, again, well, is it a zero fuse? Is it a two second fuse? Is it a three second fuse? Well, do you really want to test the experience? Do you really want to guess? How about instead pull the pin and make a point of going along with the idea of throwing the grenade away from you. I would point out that if it has a zero fuse, which by the way the Vietnamese were very, a lot of times in the early days of Vietnam because they couldn't do as much, the Viet Cong and the other Vietnamese forces that were working especially in the SF camp areas, Guys, they would try to snick a grenade or two and what they would do is open it up. They would disengage the fuse, take an uncrimp the fuse. They would reactivate the thing with no fuse timer. In other words, it would go right to prima, it would go right to the blasting cap. And that means when you pull the pin and let go, it's going to go off. That's what we call a zero point fuse or a zero time fuse. They're actually built for anti-personnel but you can modify any fuse. Any grenade fuse can be modified to do this. Well what they would do is put those back in the rack or sneak them back in the rack especially if they had fifth columnists in the units like in the camps. And when the men were out there either for grenade practice or they were using them in combat, A lot of guys, they knew to throw the grenade. As soon as you pull the pin, you get that thing away from you. Many of those men had digits missing, because even if you do throw it, it's only going to travel so far before it goes through the cycle of boom. And that's why you want to get Mr. Grenade away from you. You don't pull the pin, let the clapper fly, and then start counting, holding it to your chest. Although I guess if you're really, you know, if it does become a suicide issue, at least you're in the right spot to make sure it's a fatal wound. At least you're dead. Okay, he didn't suffer. But I would kind of avoid that, okay? One nice thing is remember also when you're throwing grenades, if you're throwing them just around corners under those conditions, if you've got cement, block, or brick, that's a good thing. If you're in a building and you have drywall, I'm going to tell you right now that drywall doesn't slow much of anything down. and Mr. Grenade is made up of copper wrapped wire or steel that has been tempered. It's been knocked and wrapped around in a circle around the body of the grenade on the inside. When the explosion takes place, those little clips in the wire, like a snip with a wire cutter that wasn't quite complete, that's what they do. Well, the shock wave separates those little pieces of that copper wire into little pieces which expand out away from the epicenter of the explosion. They are traveling at whatever velocity is intended, but it's typically hyper velocity. The copper wire shrapnel will go right through drywall. So again, remember if you're just going to toss that grenade around the corner, you might want to step back away from the corner and put some distance, even a few steps if at all possible, between you and who you thought you were going to frag. Unfortunately, we have very good grenades in the US military. In fact, some of the best in the world. Some of the most reliable. Most grenades that you carry are what we call defensive grenades. They have a larger burst radius. They are designed under the concept that as a defensive grenade you're supposed to take cover, throw the grenade, and the area around you and them is going to be perforated. And preferably the bad guy gets perforated. But if you're in the right place, well, it's kind of like that claymore mine. Remember it does say front towards enemy. But do you know that 15% of whatever you set off comes back towards you, which is why when you use a claymore you're supposed to take cover? Did you know that? Oh, you didn't know that maybe. Yeah, see, no minor grenade has anybody's special name on it. Everybody gets equal opportunity dying. So again, know your weapon systems, understand that things can go wrong, and because of that, use them in particular ways. Mr. Grenade is not your friend. We're at the top of the hour, we're going to take the top of the hour break here. And as it is, through all of this, we'll be capturing cool stuff from the bad guys. If at all possible, go to Ordnance Books, go to all of these struct manuals you can find on subjects and studs. Henry's been putting some excellent vidkas up there, putting some from World War II on how to fight. 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