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For barrel specific, if you were buying barrels. but I see barrels were the cheapest barrel they still are pretty sure a cheapest barrel to buy because their cheapest barrel to build and I see would be your first choice The idea is to experiment with a barrel that you can get out there that's cheap. Go to like, say, SARTEAST, e-circoinc.com, or you go to like, gunpartscorp.com. And they've got barrels. Remember, I pointed this out a couple months ago. They had brand new Savage Barrels for $24.95 a piece. And those were built for the top break Savage over under. They were the survival gun barrels. They had the, you know, like they had the 223 barrels available and they had the shotgun barrels available. Well those 20 gauge shotgun barrels would have been perfect for this project. The thing is, everybody snagged them up because obviously they got some projects going probably in cartridge guns. But there's always shotgun barrels that come out into the market from one company or another that are, you know, leftovers or overproduction runs or the company's become an orphan and the company's gone out of business. And some of the stuff just sits there because nobody has a use for it. That's the kind of barrel you want to look at because you get the first one, you prototype it out to confirm that it's useful, then you snag the rest cheap because nobody wants them. and you adapt that barrel, machine the, like I said, you machine the operating end is where the machining is going to take place. Chances are you're going to have to take some meat off the chamber end, in other words, you're going to have to mill it down a little bit, and you're either going to have to straight in line the base of the barrel so it can plug into the receiver and be pinned into place where it normally would be, or threaded depending on the model. That's the only thing that's a variation in consideration. Go ahead, Colin. Okay, yeah, real quick. While you were talking, I looked it up on YouTube and they've got a Benjamin Rowe 357 and you're past the top of the hour right now. Oh, yeah, wait a minute. We're going to go to break. We'll get a little break here, guys. For everybody out there, Ed's got the controller on the station and we'll bring the music up. Guys, God bless the Republic. That's the new world order. We shall prevail. The Emperor's on the run. We're in a march. We'll be back, just a little bit here. Again, Weapons Wednesday, we're on the subject that everybody out there, with what you see on their horizon, we've got to be able to build weapons. Now, I'm going to go cruder and ruder here in a minute and give you some other ideas for your face. Now, what the Filipinos did, we'll start thinking with air and stuff. Al, what can we do with all those plumbing things? Revolution. Thank you for listening to Liberty Tree Radio dot 4 mg dot com. We all need to prepare ourselves. 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He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. Invist the land of the free and home of the brave. You vie permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. And keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children? to live in fear and be a slave. O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch him tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Dill the land of the free afternoon ladies and gentlemen though. It's very dark outside This is the second hour of the afternoon intelligence report. I'm our kirnky Hopefully we have Daryl there. Nope, we don't have Daryl with us. Well, one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters. Both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, southwest, central, and east. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to us on... 43radio.4mg.com, Indiana Freedom Talk Radio dot com. We are on AM and FM micro stations, CB base stations, and Ultra Net Technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. Also the Hallmark and the Golden Spike are part of that process. It is, well it's not old Dark Thirty because we're in the other direction, it's dark outside. It's gray out there and it actually was doing a little fine dusty bit of snow thingy. Not much but some so we got to be careful there guys. Pay attention to your environment. Know full well that the world is continuing to get colder. It's not global warming. It's cold winter. But it is Wednesday. It is the... oh no way! Yes way, it is the 26th of November. It is the sixth year of open Thebian socialist and Soviet socialist occupation of America with a K 2014 old earth calendar or Mayan crazy town. Crazy town. Calendar and Nostradamus Doom! Select your poison! Either way, it's a lie and... designed to make you angst and want to commit ritual super cool well instead do it a lot of other people are learning to do take a bunch of the butters with you and go hunt the ones down the center and if you're really lucky you'll get to the management how do you like that anyway more more people are deciding to do that bad guys are not going to be making it to retirement which is they all well now my problem as it is uh... again it is weapons wednesday go to the the the the Before we go any farther, again, for all our friends, heads up in the chat room and listening across the country. JG Sales, they're out of Prescott, Arizona. They've been around a long time. I believe that the gentleman's wife passed away here. Not believe, it was just last year. And again, J and G sales. the company still going strong and they've been doing things like this for a long time it's of course the Friday Black Friday thingy they have the Lynx pump action shotgun 12 gauge 18.5 inch barrel Turkish manufacturer $150 a gun I'm gonna eliminate the nickel I'll throw it in there There you go. The nickel is now in place. $150 is a very good price for a brand new out-of-the-box pump shotgun that's got all kinds of, you know, those space age features on it. Apparently everybody thinks they need. Some, I can understand, others, not so critical, but they're there. Again, this is the CAI, as opposed to CIA. You know, it's Century Arms International, by the way. That's who that is, CIA. We could, you know what? The guy's in charge of I-Corps intelligence back in the day. When I mentioned Century, first thing he said was, oh you mean old CIA International? Or old CIA? You know, Rent-A-Revolution? That's what he's called, is the Rent-A-Revolution company, because they're old spook and cooke and they sell everybody. Well. Since the Turks are prostituting out as a horror to us or out to the Israelis to try and get some kind of war going there. It didn't work to get World War III going the way they wanted, but we've got the Turks pulling stuff in here. They're in the Red Lake District now. We've allowed these Turkish weapons to come in. These are the ones they shoot their people with. Okay, if you're wondering, this is who they mow down their people with when they riot. These are who they shoot with the beanbag shell or the rubber bullet shell or buckshot or slugs, whatever. So it works. It works because they need to make sure it works so they can kill their population with it. Okay. Again, this is the Lynx Pump Action Shotgun 12 gauge 18.5 inch barrel. Turkish manufactured. Let's see... Comes with a chrome barrel by the way. That to me is critical. That's cool. With chrome bore, 3 inch chamber and ported muzzle device that takes choke tubes. Choke wrench and standard cylinder bore choke tube included. Also has fiber optic front sight. That's the rod pin sight. No, it's dots from the front. Picatinny rail on the receiver. Very much a plus thingy there. and spring-loaded extended forearm with picatinny rail 5 plus 1, 2.7 inch 7.5 inch shell capacity, and a black synthetic tactical pistol grip stock with a pad and sling swivel studs. This also has the picatinny rail obviously on the pump up front. So if you want to put a flashlight or something there, you've got an option to hook up whatever you want. I just keep her clean up front if I can, but that scope rail in the back means you can put Don's night vision device on it. You can put an optic, whatever optic you want to make it work for you. I highly recommend that. This would be a good 510 program shotgun. For $150 a piece you can put five of these on the shelf side by side by side and you're handing out a pretty good kick butt firearm for a very reasonable price. The China Sport Pump Shotgun is about four years ago. Remember there was a short time when they were bringing their riot control guns in. You know the ones that the Chinese used to kill their people with. So it's got to work. They weren't sophisticated. They're crude and rude. They made them with plastic and they made them with wood stocks. The wood stock model in the full stock was running about $100 to $110 apiece. Then they just all disappeared and they have not come back into the country. Have you noticed that? Well that's because we're China's prostitutes so they don't need to make us anything special for us. But Turkey is our prostitute. They're horned out to us so we're letting them bring all this cool stuff in. Remember they got the 1919 semi-auto guns that look like an M16? Hey, they work and they've actually been marked down. Century has those. Well this, for $150 I can buy two and a half, almost three of these for the price of one of those I'm going to ask you this question Mark. When you say chrome barrel, do you mean the inside of the barrel? The inside of the barrel is chrome just like on the AKs and the SKSs, which is a good feature. That's again because you just never know what they're loading in the way of ammo. And by the way, down the road you can load shotgun shells of black powder all day kids. So that would be a real nice feature. Now you're still going to have to clean your bolt and scrub your bolt with soap the whole nine yards and I'd still clean everything on that weapon. But we can load virtually every weapon we have with black powder. Every one of them. In fact, the basic rule with your pistols, you would even worry about, you could level the powder off to the top of the case, compress the round end, which I wouldn't recommend. Your better bet would probably be to use just your regular scoop system. Would not have to be that sophisticated. And boy, they would be cranking out the smoke when you pull the trigger. But any of your revolvers could operate, and even your semi-auto guns could operate with black powder. There wouldn't be any reason not to. How do they chrome the inside of a barrel without doing the outside? It's a standard process. Everybody's perfected and been using for a long time. We could do it in the US and we actually do. All they're doing is, again, you cover and seal the entire outer part of the system. Whatever you don't want from, you cover up. I gotcha, yeah. It's just like when you do bumpers. They can do inside-outside or they can save money. To save on the amount of chrome, they'll chrome only the front outer surface when you redo a chrome bumper. We used to have a couple of plating companies here when Michigan used to be an industrial state. Most of those are gone now. We used to have a dozen different plating companies here we could go to where you could have little projects done all day. and a lot of guys used to have all their handguns done years ago in chrome when they get rusty. Like I said, the best way to cover the sin of not maintaining your weapon would be to take your gun in and what they do is chrome it and fill it. And what that is, is anywhere where you've got like an oxidation pit, the chrome, what you do is they specifically fill it with copper or they'll fill it with more chrome. But first you have to plate the whole thing and then they fill it. Usually copper. Yeah, copper does most of the work because it's cheaper. It makes sense, you know. Well, it's cheaper than nickel, you know. Oh yeah. Yeah, so again, it's an old trick, but it's a sensible thing to do too. A lot of guys, you see, that's why chrome guns and by people today even still they see a stainless and a lot of them will think, oh, it's a chrome gun because for the longest time they were shiny, solid, bright nickel chrome. Then somebody figured out, well, wait a minute, we could take a wheel and we can brush it, or we can take a bead blaster and we can just rough up the finish and that creates a satin coat. But then stainless came out and stainless can be done both ways. Stainless can be brought to a buff, but it's better to leave it in its original cast or its strike form because it has a bit of a sandpaper finish to it. So it doesn't reflect as much. Yeah, Chrome doesn't have to be shiny. No, no it doesn't. It can be subdued. That was a big thing. Remember in the 70s through the 80s, brush chrome finish was the big thing because that was getting chrome was still being done. If I was doing both, you couldn't find The only people that made a stainless steel shotgun was Mothburg. They made a marine shotgun. I don't know if everybody remembers that. I don't know if they still make it yet. I haven't really looked. I was out fitting boats for ocean going use. Guys had these yachts. What can I get? We'd recommend a handful of 45 hardballers. But then some say, oh no, I want a revolver. Well, at that time you could get Smith and Wesson model 65s and 64s. Those were stainless. And then, of course, they made a little J frame too. They made a J frame. They were stupid price, outrageous to buy. So nobody really could afford them at the time. But the other option I could tell everybody, hey, grab a couple of these inexpensive Smith and Wesson. I could get Smith and Wesson K frame model 10s for $75 apiece, five screw. and high priced one. When they realize that everybody's got a gun and they're actually able to return fire, then it's not such a useful venture when it looks like you might end up leaking before you get off the other guy's boat. That's the thing about pirates of the Caribbean. It doesn't mean that they might not have all kinds of wicked weapons, but if you have just as many and you don't look like you're a soft target, then it's less likely to have problems. But the thing was to try an outfit with stainless and I did that, you know, eventually some of these other companies came out with, you know, you had to shop around. Smith had stainless. AMT of course had their hard baller in the long slide, you remember the Terminator men, and they had this long slide and the short slide standard and then they had the AMT backup. And then, like I said, for the pump guns you go with the Mosberg and at that time the Mini 14 had just come out in stainless and that gave everybody some fire power for their boats. So typically on one of the bigger yachts or whatever it would be like three mini fourteens, a brace of five 45s if not more, or again a brace of revolvers of whichever style. Revolvers were liked because still it's the idea of point and click and everybody understands them. And then in the shotgun typically a brace of five if it was a big boat. If it was a small boat, threes and threes, three shotguns, three rifles, and then a brace of five pistols of whatever kind. and that would give you enough firepower to keep somebody busy and again keep you happy. It would work for me. I still got my hard baller. Well I'll tell you what, it used to be we scoured the country and we grabbed every one of them we could and there's whole pockets of 45s. Of course we bought everything. Lamas, I don't care what it was. Lamas, stars, earlier colts. Again, the AMTs, whatever I can find, the AMTs, I try to pull them aside and put them together. Because again, they're great cash guns. They can be left, or you want it tended for a long time. They're stainless steel. But what you do is you lube them all up like you would any other gun, and now you've got an indefinite storage wheel system. So the .45, and again, good gun in general. Guys, I've never had an AMT fail on me ever. And again, the reason I bring it up, by the way, J&G sales is carrying the new Dan Wesson semi-autos, the 45s. And I like Dan Wesson. I mean, Dan Wesson has always done well, but you're looking at $1,200 a gun for a 45. Yeah, that's like, ouch. J&G sales is also selling those same shotguns for $149. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's who's got them. J&G sales has got the length pump guns. That's who it is. $149.95. And that is the best price in the country for those that I've seen. I thought you were talking about Century. I'm sorry. No, Century's the one who made it. Century Arms International are the people who made the gun. My bad. That's okay. No, no. And again, I'll reinforce that so there's no confusion. The shotgun we're talking about is at JGSales.com. JGSales.com. That's www.j, as in John, g, as in George. sales.com, JGSales.com, JGSales.com. The item is the Lynx Pump Action Shotgun, 12 gauge, 18.5 inch, barrel Turkish manufacturer. These are brand new shotguns guys, brand new in the box. For $150 a piece you can afford to play. It's like buying the SKS's all over again. You know what I mean? In fact, I was looking because remember that's about the price of the Sega's were available for years ago when I tried to get everybody to buy them about $160 a piece and everybody did start picking them up and all of a sudden boy they just started leaving the shelves. And it's not that they were around, they've been around for a while, but for the when they dropped below $200 they were worth playing with. And now if you got a Sega gun, sit there and smile because look at the price on those. You guys have bought those Stegas for $160 or $200 or $300. Can you go out and buy one for $300 now? Not. In fact, if you go to JG sales, they don't even have them. They're out completely. They don't even have used. Don't even have a used Sega on the shelf. Everybody's got them. Just keeping them. So again, while this is not a semi-auto gun, this is a pump gun, It's almost as cheap as the Chinese. It's got more features than the Chinese guns had that were about 110 apiece. In fact, they were down to as little as $97 for a little while for the Chinese models. But those are few and far between and no longer coming off the showroom floor for that price or even available. You can't even find them out there for sale. So this is a Turkish gun. It's got all the features and all the whistles and bells you could ask for. I like the two big things. Number one is that chrome bore and that picatinny rail on the receiver. That eliminates all the work that you'd have to figure out how to make a rail work and fit. No, it's built into the gun. It's built on and added already. All you do is add your optics and you're in business, kids. So, take a look at it, see if it floats your boat. Hey, you guys were looking for a birthday present for Uncle Fred or a birthday present for one of the girls or a friend that you really like. Well, there's $150 worth of friendship right there. That's a weapon. That is a gift that tells somebody you truly love them in this day and age. with what you're seeing happen in this country the best way you can say I love you is to make sure they get they got these big heavy gifts under the Christmas tree this year or this long curtain rod box for a birthday present. Would you do get me curtain rods? Yeah, I got you curtain rods. Well, not exactly. You'll like it. Yeah. So again people, I can't stress that enough now. I wanted to get into this, again that's JGSales.com. The item number is 3-500XQ. That's 3-500XQ. I don't know if that's really critical. Just go for the Lynx, L-Y-N-X-X, Lynx Pump Action Shotgun. It's on the page, easy to find. They also do have, actually the reason I got interested in what J&G was doing, one of our people in the chat room pointed out that they've got the little pocket pistol. Well, it's gone from the front page. Oh, don't tell me they sold out. That wouldn't surprise me. Okay, I won't tell you. I was going to say, I was going to mention this and it's gone. It's like, well, you never know. It could be on the page somewhere. You'll find them guys, but they got a nice little 40 cal pocket pistol for, you know, it's marked down, you know, quite well and available. I believe it's a Springfield 40 caliber. So your Springfield Armory. So check it out. It's a little polymer, a small frame. Anyway, ideas. That's the solution. Now we're going to get ideas talking about technology. If I needed to make an air rifle right now, what would I... I want you to just go through the... go to the hardware and think iron pipe, 20 gauge, you figure out what's closest, or 12 gauge. Let's put it this way. If it looks like 20 gauge is harder to match up for those Sabo slugs, how about you go 12 gauge? Now let's see. I can go and get any size iron or steel pipe. that I want off the shelf. So I'm going to go with about a 30 or 40 inch piece of pipe. Now I've got flanges and hangers and I've even got caps for the other end but if I look I've got a reducer and I can go with a reducer down to another thread size. Now, this is really critical because I then have either reducers or adapters that would allow me to take a coarse air quick release fixture and screw it into my adapter at the base of my system. From there, I can then hook up a quick release line. Now, I'm going to have to do something here because it depends on how sophisticated or if I want to go towards an exotic design idea, but I'm going to come up with a trigger. Now, the trigger is going to be nothing more than a pressure release valve. So I'm going to take one of those pressure lines and I'm going to bring it around to the side of whatever I'm doing when the time comes, and I'm going to have my little pressure relief switch where I push the button and it releases air. And as soon as I release it, it stops releasing air. This is a nice feature. Now beyond that valve, I'm going to have another quick release fixture. I'm doing quick release because I can do this all off the shelf. I can even go to the China Sport locations and get all the fixtures and fittings I need for almost free. Then I'm going to set up another line to go to a reservoir. Now this reservoir fixture has also got a quick release, the reservoir tank itself does. And now I've got my plumbing worked out. So I'm not really all that complicated. You're going to have to take a look at this and decide for yourself what you might find off the shelf where you could virtually build an air rifle within a very, very short period of time. It is more important that you be able to, again, affix this to something. Now what am I going to go with in the way of a stock? Because I'm going to take my long piece of iron pipe with the fixture screw to the back of it. And then I've got to take my line, and I've got to work it around the side. I could use a 2x6. I could use a 2x4, but I might want a little bigger buttstock. So I can afford to take a piece of, like say, pine and map out my stock and map out how I want my valve to fit, my valve to seat. So I have it basically where there's a trigger that's located. And beyond that, the sky's the limit. What kind of a stock design do you want for this thing? So it's a pure personal preference thingy. How personal preference or exciting can this be? Well, you could go in another direction and actually get a regular rifle stock, but my plan is to go to a hardware and maybe lumber company's scrap area and pick out the parts that I need to make this system work. And I'll guarantee that I could produce a 20 gauge discarding SABO weapon system and put it together for probably about $48 to $60. Now, there we go. Mark, you were talking about a release valve and those quick releases. Yeah, and you go over to Tractor Supply and the first place I'd look before I'd buy it straight off the shelf, go back to Tractor Supply and when you get there, go back to their sale section or wherever they have their sale shelves for the last season's Markdop stuff. Now when you get there, they have valve controls, they have little packets that have all the fixtures and even little short lines and connectors and quick disconnectors and everything you need and you'd be paying a whopping four or five dollars for a whole little pack of stuff. Sometimes a card that's about 10 inches by 10 inches with about two dozen worth of something on the shelf on the card that are all pneumatic control support. You know, quick release, adapters, connectors, the whole nine yards. The co-air section is my friend. Yeah, exactly. And here's the thing. Between all of this, now as far as the reservoir goes, I didn't really finish that part of it. You know what would really be fun? Is you could take, for instance, a 25 pound air pig, or forgive me, not air pig, a 25 pound propane pig that's a junker. and open her up, clean her out, and find all your plumbing fittings and a Schrader valve for that and congratulations! Pressure in, tank ready and that would be one of my like say vehicle backups or that could be my in the house backup and I've got the ability to have an unlimited number of shots from that big big tank or I could go with a smaller tank and even make that part of the stock based upon the whole concept of how you see paintball and airsoft. Now, paintball guns are the way to go. Look at that. And I could pretty much build a system that would be quite streamlined, fairly compact, but all off the shelf. And it's going to be a single shot. It's also probably going to be a muzzleloader, which I don't have a problem with because it's a quiet, anti-personnel gun. but I am limited amount of pressure with a bigger tank and Again, I'm probably not going to release faster than the projectile goes down range So I need to be careful the only thing I'd have to watch there is making too much noise from like From excessive air leaving the end of the tube, but other than that guys As far as the optics on the roof, well let me point something out. I can buy China Sport, Russian Sport, and a bunch of other optics for what? $11, $20. It'll cost more for the optics than all my plumbing. pretty much. Think about it, but I can go still, cheap optics, I can go to dealextreme.com and pick up the picatinny rails in bunches like you get a bag of mixed picatinny rails for something like what, eight dollars right now? I mean there's six inch, eight inch, twelve inch, ten inch, three inch, two inch, two inch. There's duplicates of one or two, but you're talking about a very economical package. And when I'm done, it would kill you dead, dead, dead. Now, can I reach greater ranges? Purely a matter of how I sight the thing in and how, again, how accurate is the pipe I used? How consistent is it? Now, iron pipe could be used because the plumbing, the threading is all the same, but I can buy steel pipe if I want to upgrade a little bit. It can only cost a dollar or two more, right? Mark? Go ahead, go ahead, jump in there, please. It just occurred to me, a person, it wouldn't be that difficult to make an air release mechanism a little bit simpler than the old time ones. The old ones used a, must be able to know what a cam is, especially old farts like you and me. And a cam worked not just on lift, but duration on how long the valve was kept open. Right. And that's how most of the old air guns metered the air pressure, a cam that kept the air valve open a precisely measured amount of time. But it seems to me just a slatter with a bump on it could push open the air valve and show it but measured amount of time and that metered your air without a consciously hold of air valve open. Oh, and you could make the Sabos out of wood with this rig too. Yes, actually that would be the other consideration is how many different ways can I make a Sabo to work with my slugs? With the slug that I'm using. There are a dozen different materials that could be used and wood, polymers of different types. You could even cast it out of aluminum. You can make an aluminum Sabo that would be floating a copper projectile. There's a thing about all the different things that you have out there. You can either melt you can you know, in other words, melt it melt it and mold it or even infusion cast it depending upon how sophisticated you are and Vacuum vacuum molding is not hard to do either by the way. There's some excellent books out there on vacuum molding So purely a matter of what do you have in your area that makes sense for you? Because where we are, we might have access to certain technologies in a certain category. And because you're always looking for what are called non-strategic materials, how can I build stuff that will require minimal resources and preferably what are considered non-critical slash non-strategic materials? One of those 3D spreaders. Are those new printers Mark? Are those 3D printers? You can pump out SABO's like crazy with one of those. Easy. That might be one of the few areas where it would be useful because the SABO is a throw away and it would be an option to go in that direction and the printer probably could do it for a fairly economically reasonable price. The big thing there again is Whatever system you use, you want to look at mass production. How much can I build in how short a period of time, depending on turnaround. If the printer you can walk away in it can keep cranking out parts and can index out the old part and start a new one right away without a reset button. That makes it a really beneficial tool because now you have a manufacturing process with a production system and production timeline. While you're busy letting the machine do that, you can be going to do other things, which is really cool. Which means you can get more done in terms of system manufacturing, final product. Which is what we're looking at guys. How can we make more, or how can we make it economical? The big thing about an air sniper rifle, oh that's really what we're talking about doing, is on the other end, now I have to be careful, I want to free float this barrel. number one if at all possible but I've got to be careful because my action really doesn't have a quote-unquote receiver end. The barrel is also the receiver in this single shot muzzle loading type system. But I could cone it for instance at the other end so I could you know whatever noise does exist would be directed towards the target within a very narrow channel In other words, just take a larger piece of pipe with an adapter, hook it up to the other end of the barrel. But I don't want to create undue weight and stress because I don't want to curve the barrel or weight the barrel to distort the barrel in any way. So I've got to be careful. I can't go crazy at the other end. That's where, again, Mr. PVC pipe comes in handy because PVC pipe is threaded to the same thread, of course, as the iron pipe and the steel pipe that you're using out there. Which means that while it is dissimilar material, remember there's no major blast at the muzzle end. I could use PVC plastic fixtures to complete my cone for sound reduction. It doesn't even have to be a cone. All it needs to be is a length of PVC pipe with the fixture glued to the fixture so that it directs more of the sound forward. and within a very narrow channel. That in and of itself with what little sound will be made, which is pretty much irrelevant, would make it not, it wouldn't be a silencer, nobody can say anything, all it is is just a cone direction system using a straight tube process. Now we've pretty well settled all of our issues. The big thing is, again, I'm leaving it pretty flexible because think of all the different ways that you're going to connect that pipe to that wooden stock that you build. How many different ways can that be done so that we can minimize contact with the barrel and maximize performance? Which is really what we want to do. We're going to make this an individual projectile target tax driver. When it goes down range, its mission is to get that one bullet where it needs to be. 300, 400, or 500 grains worth of bullet. So that's pretty devastating. Remember what's the weight of a 50 caliber M2 ball round, guys? Well, 660 grains. And we're not going as fast, but we're pretty darn close to that, aren't we? Oh, yeah. Do you mean 50 per second wise, you mean? Is that what you're saying? per second rise. What we're doing is we're not going to have the velocity but we're going to have the weight. And there's a basic rule with regard to the formulas for again knockdown power. If you have to reduce velocity, increase weight. You see how that works? Or if you know that you're limited in energy available, what you do is you try to drive it up to a particular specification in terms of velocity. and the weight of the projectile compensates accordingly. That's why a 45-70 isn't real fast, but a whole lot of deer and a whole lot of people have died because of it. Because it comes in like a freight train. I get hit by a softball instead of an apple. Yeah, it's golf ball time, but with a little more energy still. See that's where, again, the balance is you don't want to get hit directly by even that sailing golf ball. That's why people shout for. And that's yours, though, isn't lethal. Well, on the other hand, people do die on the golf course from impact injuries, don't they? It happens. It wasn't meant to be lethal, but it does a fine job. Oh, that rang his gourd. Yeah, but he's not getting up, and he's not breathing. You see? So the reason I bring that up is because what you're looking at is low pressure, high velocity. That's the formula. Low pressure, high velocity. A 40 millimeter grenade launcher works off the same principle. And all 12 gauge work off the same principle. In that you have a slap of energy that pushes the projectile downrange at mostly subsonic ranges. But that varies. I mean, you can push to supersonic with the right formula. And again, in some cases they'll bring down the spec weight on the projectile so they can increase the velocity of the round that they're trying to move. In this case, we're not worried about HE. We're not looking at high explosive. We're looking at putting a projectile, a flat hourglass 500 grain projectile downrange on a target out to 200 yards. and we're going to be able to do it off the shelf with existing plumbing supplies, hardware supplies. Also, no flash, no flame, no sound. Now, we do that, bad guys really don't want you to be thinking that way. No, no, no, in fact, what's the big thing right now? I noticed this, they're doing this AR-15s because the cop shops have been doing it for shock. I'm not going to be shocking anybody by getting that stinking close, but they're putting these ultra-noise maker flash hiders on the guns. If you notice that, that's the big thing that everybody thinks they need. You know, that's just the total reverse of what we've been trying to argue. It's like, no, I don't need anybody to know where the bullet came from. I don't want them to guess every step of the way. I want there to be lots of confusion on the battlefield. So I don't need something that's close up going, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah. Because all that does is get their heads down. Yeah, that drop, well y'all it's going to keep their heads down. Really? Well I'll tell you what, watch me, I'll show you how to keep their heads down. Watch this. Now let's see, if I line my iron sights up on that guy up front and I squeeze that titty and I don't know when it goes off but I kept those iron sights on that head. Wow! That 30-06 with that 180 grain soft point round just turned that into a big puddle of mist in mid-air. You know what? Looks like everybody else is getting undercover. Looks like I'm going to keep their head down. And I took his head off. That's a lot better than making some noise. Yeah, I like that 4570. It's downloaded to be... Like about a two or three hundred yard gun that's practically silent. Oh yeah, like you've said, we've done that before. Again, you can use red dot. There are several different loads, like inexpensive powders. About 22 to 27 grains, depending on the projectile that you use. A powder 29 is for the 500 grain spear soft point projectile. And we were firing a 20, we were using a single shot. Longer than, but basically what it was was a modified, sporterized 45-70 trapdoor rifle that was almost carbine length. So we had a rifle cost of $70 when I bought it. So we took a $70 45-70 trapdoor Springfield. using a Lee handset of hammer dies. We were loading the shells on the range with a 500 grain soft point spear or a Hornady bullet. We ran out of one so we went to the other and we were using our odd men out. We were using all our odd boxes up and we were loading it on the range. We were firing it consistently at 100 yards and keeping the groups of five rounds. Single shot of course at the Trapdoor Springfield. Five rounds in a quarter. And the gun was quieter than the guy firing the Stevens single shot .22 with CB caps from CCI. The .22 was making a noise. The .45-70 wasn't. That's no silencer. That's none of this other BS. They always try to get you in all these things because they've got all these regulations. What if you use your mind and math? If I take that .30-06, and I load that 200 grain bullet with a lighter charge and I drop the powder charge down and I formulate the powder charge based upon the barrel length. Not only can I reduce bringing the round down just below subsonic, I can reduce the muzzle flash. There is no report per se to speak of, but I'm putting that 200 grain bullet down range and can keep it in that pipe plate at 100 yards. Now well, I'll tell you what what do you think is scarier? Or and Fred's head just disappeared in front of that whole squad and You don't know yeah, and you don't know where it came from. Yeah, and where the and by the way, you want to really muck with them It's like I said when you do that on my mark I want one SKS off to my right to fire 200 yards to my right you copy copy and a one and a two and the party begins. Meanwhile, pow, from over there 200 yards. Guess what? What's going to draw their attention? My op-six with no noise as it plows through his head or that SKS 200 yards away that means nothing. Yeah. What did you just do? I can get all those idiots to dump a magazine each and while they're dumping a magazine I work my slide three more times and I see three more pumpkins disappear. Yeah, either that or like I said aim for the crotch if you're worried about that lower velocity round not getting through any body armor or maybe snagging a helmet Well aim for the crotch aim for their butt cheeks take out some ham hocks Create an instant casualty that has to be tended Oh, yeah, plus that through that 200 grain projectile at just below supersonic range and villain velocity is still going to easily go through that butt cheek and take what's left of it and suck it through part of the other one I'm working on it real quick, a little change of subject. Are you there by a TV and if so, what's going on with Jameson? Anything going on or is everything quiet or? You mean Ferguson? I mean Ferguson, excuse me. Wow, I was gonna say, I didn't know Jameson was on fire. No, I'm thinking about my daughter, Susan Jameson. My daughter lives in Jamison, North Dakota. As far as I know, and again tonight, the guard, of course, the Imperial Forces, under the order of the Fed, who were of course held back to create the crisis intentionally, they weren't the only ones there. Homeland Security was there in force, so they of course let them rape, kill, pillage, and burn. They even let them kill. I still don't have confirmation, but Donna's Don is told that one of the characters who one of the people who was a witness for the police officer is already dead Did anybody catch this? No, now it's all about hold on well no in fact if you go to from the trenches scroll There is a body that a guy that was killed gentlemen killed I think Deandri Joshua Now somebody and Don was talking to me before the program. He was gonna be able to make the the two hours He said that they were talking about that this guy is one of the people that testified for the cop. Well, he was found shot in his car. The story is on FromTheTrenchesWorldReport.com. That's this body found amid violent Ferguson protests investigated as homicide by police. It is on FromTheTrenchesWorldReport.com, probably all the way down the middle bottom of the scroll by now. It's heading towards the lower end now because I haven't upgraded this. But it's on the page. It's body found amid violent Ferguson protests investigated as homicide. The guy was sitting in his car and he was shot at apparently point blank range through the window. That's a little heads up for everybody. New York Daily News has got the story. That's where the story came from. Henry posted or actually I should say Henry's people posted in the chat room So this guy of course first of all, how would they know that he was the witness? How would they know that he was the guy that you know testified because everybody was kept under wraps well two ways the Fed Handed him over because the Fed is Holder and Obama So again guys remember this is what we've been talking about the man is playing both sides Or the Grand Tree ratted him out Well, they could have. First of all, the grand jury was kept concealed too, supposedly. But you have to remember that the Justice Department under the Communists that are there, the queers and communists that are running the regime, guys, they have access to all of this data right from the get-go. And so it would not be surprised that they're going to hand over these people because that's part of the, you know, again, throw them a bone kids, throw them a bone. And he gets to stir the pot more. So again, we need more data on this. I'm sure there'll be more information, but it does make sense. It's not the only fatality. It's just that some bodies will be hid better than others for a while before you hear about it, guys. Manhole covers all over town, you know what I mean? Yeah, what it makes is remark is there's 150 cities protesting this damn thing right now. I mean, that caught me off guard. I didn't realize it was that big. Well, it's what the one guy said. The communists have organized this thing across the board, but I will point out, okay, what's the difference between that and the knockout game slash the kill all the white people stuff I've been telling you about? All they had to do is use a cell phone. Government provided them. Yeah, it took them three months to figure it out. Well, no, no, no, no, no, they don't think about what you just said guys, they've been going down using the phones and flash bombs we've been reporting for how long? Yeah, that works. Think about it. Those flash bombs were practiced for what we're talking about here. What I said for the last how many years? Using the cell phones they were allowed, they were able to practice and deploy. Now they're applying what they have learned. That's satisfying. We're on the mark's day and night. Hurrah. Delusion is not just complaining about the problem. Alright, ammo. Buy more ammunition, fold your wallet, and talk to everybody and tell them the same thing and ask them. You buy ammo? You buy ammo, didn't you? That's why you need to treat everybody, guys. We'll see you at eight o'clock. Meanwhile, crape room from this now is coming in then. Heads making hope.