Live 365. the revolution. Thank you for listening to Liberty Tree Radio dot 4 mg dot com. MainMilitary.com has a large selection of pistols and rifles suited for your needs. Are your local stores sold out of ammunition? Call or visit them today for prices on hard to find ammo and bulk ammo orders. You don't need to worry about having a military surplus store in your area because MainMilitary.com is the only store you'll ever need, all from the comfort of your computer. Visit them online today at MainMilitary.com. That's Main, like the state, Military.com. I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free. and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. and your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each God given right we only watch and tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave is this still the land of the food? Afternoon ladies and gentlemen, this is the first hour of the afternoon Intelligence report. I'm our corny one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, southwest, east, and central. 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A million petticoat junction operators, the ability to continue to function, want everything else, is offline. Well, it is a gray, nice. on the edge of sunset right now. It's been a great day. Medium temperatures been working outside all day every chance I can. Trying to get more of those modular walls done and more firewood cut. We're working on the firewood right now. We'll be chopping and lopping the rest of that after we get done with this two hour block of programming. So guys, keep plugging away. Do more, build more, get more accomplished so that we can get the job done and put the material on the shelf that we need. It is. the 26th of November it is the sixth year of open and very obvious Fabian socialist and Soviet socialist occupation of America with a K 2014 older calendar or Mayan crazy town crazy town so well use popcorn as a stuffing why I didn't think about that one before anyway Look at it, Henry, scroll there, my goodness there's a turkey there, just like ahhhh. I can eat turkey all the time, I don't care, but it's nice to have a seasonal thing. Anyway, I eat his weapons Wednesday for everybody out there, and ammunition, ammunition, ammunition, and did I say ammunition, buy more ammo and keep putting that in the weapons schedule. But here's the thing, you have an excuse for every gift that you give to be ammo. It's Christmas and there's birthdays this time of year. It's hunting season. It's defense season. It's Ferguson season. It's Bundy Ranch season. It's communist, you know, Pippin' on American coming across the border season. But be smiley about it. Oh, look, Uncle Fred, that box is awfully heavy and not very big. I wonder what could be in there. Now you can do some really fun stuff and I really really really really recommend this. Here's something you should do. You're going to spend $20 on a gift for a friend. I suggest you get a $10 box of ammo and then go to the dollar store and buy a box of matches, a couple things of matches, other preparedness items, duct tape, a little roll of duct tape, utility items that go into your combat rig. And say I love you by giving them things that are useful and emphasizing it. Now you can give them a fufu thing and what's cool is from the dollar store you can get some really neat little Christmasy items and I would recommend doing that. It's Christmas season. There's some neat little ornaments. I mean something that's going to last for a while, like little figurines or the little small village people, whatever. One of those. It's a dollar. Come on. It's worth it to have some fufu items. uh... and you need americana so it's up to you you can also retail store like we have one right next door we have a dollar store and they got really cool grandma stuff coming out on the abuse of throw bunch of it away uh... which is sad because the cool stuff is usually throw away because the people are starting they don't have an imagination that's okay But, go get an old American item from the 50s or 60s that is a Christmas item or a knick-knack or some fine drinking mugs. Good thud mugs, kids. You can find the pewter out there. Most people don't know what pewter is and it's fantastic. Grab it. I grab every piece of pewter I see. There are two reasons. I have cups on the shelf and prospective bullets down the road. Oh, you didn't think about that. Yeah, yeah. You see, pewter, it kind of works well. You can cast it and oh my god, it makes a hellacious bullet. It really does. It's a frangible bullet. Most people don't realize that. Pewter's a lot of fun to use for projectiles. But that's down the road. In the meantime, I'm not going to melt my drinking cup that is a copy of the Paul Revere Drinking Cup in Pewter. I've also got some that are in silver. Got them for the price of somebody thinking they were tin. I'm not going to melt those right away. I got a Paul Revere Tulip Drinking Cup, which is kind of neat. It's a design that was very specific. It was a motif that was his benchmark, just like the drinking cups. There are many, many different sizes of those out and about. So again, watch for those. There's something you can pick up. It's a Patriot Americana and it has history. It will be a benchmark for things. But first and foremost the centerpiece of your little box is that 20 rounds of 7.62x39 or 20 rounds of 30.30 or 20 rounds of 30.06. If you've got a relative and you're not giving them ammo, you're not showing love. If you're not buying ammo for your relatives, you are not showing love. Now, they may not want the ammo down the road. Or at least you know where it is. So when they decide to do the piss their pants or you know, they start knee-start knocking, go, oh, I'll get rid of that for you. So you see, the logic here is every dollar spent is a probable resupply inventory. Oh, that's horrible, Mark. No, no, that's an intelligent American thinking ahead. See how that works? Pretty cool, isn't it? Yeah, it is. So anyway, take the time, plug it in, check it out, and see what you think of some of the sales prices, which, no, there really aren't much of any in the way of sales prices going on right now. But, go ahead, call your Jimfner. Yeah, you can hand-paint them. Yeah, each one can be like a different Christmas ornament. A 45 projectile would be good for that. You know what, you could do them in different Christmas motifs. And each one's got a flat base so you can make each one look like a different Christmas ornament. You know, like Christmas bulbs. That'd be cool. Yeah. Oh, and by the way, open the box. Check it out. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, they're going to get shot by Santa Claus this year. Hold still. This is going to hurt a lot. And you deserve it. Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. There you go. So yeah, you got the right idea. We'll get another caller. Callers, jump in there. Yes, Mark. This is Arizona. I just like to step in here for one minute and I just like to say thank you. Go ahead, jump in there. What do you got? I'd like to say thank you for me on yesterday. Second issue, we mentioned that deal we ordered. The name of that book is Blind Man's Bluff About Cher. Yep. By Sherry Sontag and Chris Mann. In closing, I'd like to say thank you to you and Don, all the listeners. Everybody needs to be saying Happy Thanksgiving because it's obvious they're trying to make that disappear, aren't they, sir? That's why we need to. You know what? Holidays are embraced by us because they're ours. Our enemies I will bury when the time comes and they mean nothing to me with regard to how I will act and what I will celebrate. And they can go to hell. I'm tired of their garbage. Everybody I talk to today, this is really interesting Arizona because Everybody we talk today is so pissed. In fact, there are two things I hear coming out of their mouth. They hate the feds now. I'm hearing stuff from people. One of them is this woman I've known probably since I was a kid. She's older than I am by 15 years. She surprised me about six years ago when all the stuff was going on with the border before. And out of the blue, I said stop in town real quick, and she goes, you know the only option we have now is to shoot them, and I figure I better be buying more ammo. What do you think I ought to buy? I said everything and anything you can. That's what I'm kind of thinking. I favor my 30-30. I've killed a lot of deer with them. I say, yes, ma'am, you probably have, because you had a few down in the buck pole down there, haven't you? And she goes, you're darn right. I figure those feds are a whole lot slower than those deer I've been shooting. And it's like, that's a person at the hardware. Yeah, you make a reference about burying our enemies. I'm not so sure. The coyotes have to eat too. Yeah, bugs have got to eat the same as the worms, right? Only in your case, coyotes have got to eat the same as the worms. Besides, it's kind of cool. You've been out there at night when they do the yodel and then they're feeding. And you get all excited when they're feeding, guys. So it's kind of cool if you leave a fed out there, bare butt naked, you know, it ain't no sense in bobbing with him, something else will take care of him and the ecosystem will be provided for. That's right. One other thing talking about the ecosystem, just as a heads up of your, you know, we talked a lot about the Bundy Ranch yesterday. Out here in the Southwest, it's getting down to freezing. Sure is definitely several months ago. If anybody's thinking about out this way, I'd go to freezing at night. Well, I get a whole other gear should be mandatory for any does any deployment out there anyway, correct? Yes, and it's bouncing, you know about one week ago. We were going from about 55 to 85 and see so this morning it had to the water I don't have a light was froze morning so Grease 80 degrees now, so we're during during time of the year You know it 30 is 30 degrees 40 degrees gets to be extreme Another thing there too is, just like any other situation guys, spare mittens, spare glove, spare mitten liners, spare glove liners. If you're going to wear a patrol cap, carry two. And wool would be preferred, but most everybody's picking up nylon because that's what's out there or whatever poly plastic they're selling. You sweat, you build up sweat. Well guess what? Just like your socks and everything else, take that stocking cap off. you know, dry it out while you're doing that, where are the other ones? You're going to do this. You haven't talked about this, but Arctic operations, the big scam now, they're talking about they crossed the Antarctic or they crossed the Arctic during the freeze. You know what they're doing now? They're wearing the gear until they load it up with so much sweat that it's got 20 pounds worth of moisture on board. They're air dropping all new clothing to them now. That's how they're getting away with doing what they're doing on foot. Because you know it's like we walked across the Arctic. Well, yeah, and the helicopters are right there to make sure that everything that literally they're shucking their gear and completely replacing it. They're not having to work it in the field like the old explorers used to have to do. So just a little hint there guys how much moisture build up, you know, they're building up sweat walking, you know non-stop all day and Before the end of the day or after two or three days whatever the cycle is They actually have a chopper come in and drop them all of the exact same clothing and gear they're wearing and they dump the others Which I don't like they took a lesson from the illegal aliens They were up here and they shook a highway and change us so they can blend in. Yeah, exactly And then that garbage is laying all over the place. Isn't it down there? Oh, big time. We were out here just a few days and it's water bottles and clothing, knit casting imaginable, burlage, hats, didn't you shoot in the hat band, ready to go. Yeah, there's no latrine issue there. It's just a matter of aim for a spot and then avoid the other guy that did the same thing. Well, you know, sometimes it can be depending on their level of sophistication and how long they're going to occupy. It's quite easy to empty cans bagging. They got all their smashed. Exactly. One of the things about diesels is the idea that you may not be where you are, you may not be freezing yet, but again, looking down the road and where you're traveling in the desert at night like we're talking about here where you have the deep drop, guys, your equipment will lock up real quick if you're not prepared for it. And don't forget wind chill factor which is tied into the program too. Real quick, I don't know if you noticed this, JG Sales down in your neck of the woods over in Prescott, they have in a little section they've added which is military surplus. It's not very big, military surplus gear. But they have the military surplus radio pouches, digital woodland camo, very good condition for between $3 if you buy one and if you buy multiples, it's $2.50 a piece. They're the MOLLE pouches. But, if you've got anybody who's doing the Woodland Digital or Woodland or in that color range, which these have more of the brown in it, lending it towards the desert pattern. Not real heavy, but for instance, all the straps are typically in a tan brown rather than in a black or a green, which is an intelligent move, I think, in general anyway. But they're available. A couple of MOLLE items there, not much. But, definitely that's a pretty good price for those particular pouches. If you've got anybody down that way that needs an additional couple of radio pouches or doesn't have one for their kit, because they cost. That's down there at JGSales.com and it's in the military surplus gear section. They also have a three-color desert main pack, MOLLE main pack for about $20. which that's not a bad price but there are some better prices here and there by a dollar or two. So always check the sales sections and new and unique sections that wow I never saw that before and look to see what they have if anything that's useful. They also have a Gunsmith Special section. I don't know they had a few items yesterday let's see what they got here today. Not any great prices they've got a let's see TriStar Cobra Force Pump Action Shotgun 12 gauge I don't know why they are calling this a Gunsmith Special. Apparently there is something going on with it. I don't know what it is. Just have to check out. They also have a couple of AK-74s in there for one reason or another. Again, I don't see the reason. They are showing Bulgarian. I don't see anything jumping out the wall but they're calling them quote unquote gunsmiths specials with an S. Must be something that was put together on the rifle that they don't like. Ejection problems, there we go. Now you go to the section, ah it'll explain to you that particular weapon. Well it's got ejection problems, they still want $500 for it. I can find an AK without the ejection problem. I would think Arizona, right? It might be a good buy. It's a 74, so just something to think about there. Anyway, anything else? Jump in there, please. Oh, we might have lost Arizona there. For everybody out there listening, again, that's JGSales.com. They do have a couple of handguns, more than a couple. There are handguns that they have put up on the sales sheet for the day, I guess Black Friday. You might want to check that out to see what they have marked down. Not much, but, and again, some of these things are still over $1,000 a pistol, or $1,000 a rifle, but that's JG Silt. They're a traditional older style gun shop, and they got some unique stuff there that not everybody has. But, for instance, they've got the Grand Power, we mentioned those the other day, these are the Slovakian pistols. Now it looks like, crossed between Steyr, Sig, and Canik. but it's made up in Slovakia and they've got them knocked down by a hundred dollars to $329.95 a piece. So if you're looking for a hand cannon there's a solution. I don't know about mags for those or if they interchange with anything else. Now the other thing they do offer right now they've got the Star Model Super B semi-auto pistols. Those were running $250. They've got them for the sale for the weekend for $220. So, $30 savings. The STAR Model Bs, all the STAR Model B series, no matter which prefix they have afterwards, are 1911 type actions. So for anybody who's been running 45s, it's a good solution for an inexpensive firearm to put into service that everybody will be familiar with. In mode, the average person won't even realize that it's a 9mm because, well, it looks like a 45. So, and from a distance you're not really going to say, hey, is that a 9 or a 45? Do you care what I shoot you? Well, I guess not. I really don't want to get shot by you at all. How's that sound? So as it is, again, Star Model B Super B semi-auto pistol, 9mm comes with two mags. Magazines, both military and aftermarket, are available for this gun. I've already checked. There are mags around the country, different companies have them, so they're definitely worthwhile. Also, they do have some pretty good prices on certain ammunition. 7.62x39 Silver Bear, not to be confused with Huggy Bear or Gummy Bear or Black Bear or Grizzly Bear. 5.45x39 Silver Bear FMJ 60 Grain Ammo A hundred and seventy nine eighty five for seven hundred and fifty rounds in the square boxes but colored. This has the blue box with the silver bear on it. It is the sixty grain ball round. The silver bear is, I don't know, it almost looks like it's polished. I haven't really seen it like this before. It's supposed to be, or at least I thought it was a zinc plated. It is. They're saying zinc, but they're going with a high end finish on that. Normally with zinc plating it's bland. It actually looks like subdued brass. Except obviously in the silver range, but it looks like a flat brass. In this case they've actually gone with apparently a high buff on these. I think that's rather interesting. We'll probably close the crystal cell a little more with regard to the way the finish is going to hold up. I've been shooting zinc played World War II K-98 ammunition guys and I've never had a misfire. And that's mid-war and a lot of people are even scared some of the stuff because it's 44 production and at that point in time the who knows who was doing what at the factory when the bombs are falling up above we were dropping them on but I've never had a misfire with the stuff and I would point out that having done more research in recent years It turns out that the late war production powder, which was a formula that they had, they switched to a less sophisticated powder that was smokeless, and it still seems to have held up better in storage. I've been trying to do a little more research on this. You've got to break time away from the, you know, I've got only 28, 29 hours in the day, don't you know. But this particular powder formula, all the German formulas are available. It is a simpler smokeless powder formula, much more economical in general for us to build in a wartime situation. I wouldn't wait. I'd be building it right away. That's the powder I'd probably be manufacturing down the road. It's a Play-Doh squeeze rod type powder. If it breaks down in the case, it turns to short. It's shirt rod, what do they call that? Basically like small little donut versions of the long rod which typically is the whole length of the case. So it doesn't break down in a way that is detrimental to the interaction with the way that the powder operates during its burn cycle in the nanosecond while it's inside the case before it pushes your bullet down range. Anyway, this is a good price, $179.85 for a 750 round block of silver bear, it's not the 53 grain, it's a 60 grain projectile. Actually that's a pretty decent little round for your rifle. Take the time, check it out, go to jgsales.com, jgsales.com, jgsales.com and on the front page they've got a number of things. Now the page will rotate around on the front page a little bit. Like I just went back to the front page and the 545's over on the right before it was on the top. Also, there is some hollow point 7.62x39 for $200 for a case of 1,000 or a block of 1,000 rounds of wolf. I would have to look to see if that's Ukrainian or Russian. It could be either. And they do have some Tula 7.62x54R and some Federal 223 American Eagle 55 grain ammunition up on the block there too. So they got a pretty good mix. Actually, they've got Steelcase FMJ55 grain tool ammo, the M16 case, AR15, M16, 223 round, for $200 also, which is not a bad price. And with things going the way they are, vote with your wallet, buy more ammo. And I'm really serious about that. Vote with your wallet, buy more ammo. Oh, wait a minute. I'll take this back. Best buy I've seen. Attention, attention, attention. Best buy that I've seen in quite some time, at least the last three years. They have a pump. Looks like an 870 knockoff. It's the Lynx pump action shotgun. 12 gauge, 18.5 inch. barrel, Turkish manufactured, brand new, $150 a gun guys, attention attention attention. This is what the Turkish cavalry, camel cavalry are carrying right now on the southern border going to war with ISIS, you know Israeli secret intelligence service. This is actually a pretty cool little shotgun. Driver, anybody else out there? You're looking for another pump gun. Pistol grip standard for the rear. I'm not always excited about the pistol grip. It looks like it's actually almost an add-on thing. But it's a Pockmeyer-type pistol grip, the way the thing is sculpted. Full stock. It has a picatinny rail over the receiver for your scope. It is a pump shotgun. It has, looks like, high silhouette sight. Oh, no, wait a minute. For correction. Oh, some kind of picatinny rail? No, no, it's a rod dot. OK. Rod dot system. And it is ported. It appears to be ported also. So again, this is the CAI Lynx 12 gauge pump action shotgun made in Turkey. Features a 12.5 inch barrel. Chrome lined. There you go. with cylinder bore. Alright! That's what I would prefer. Now everybody goes, what do you want? Cylinder bore? Yeah, I see. Improved cylinder or cylinder bore. In 3 inch chamber and ported muzzle device that makes chokes tubes. Choke wrench and standard cylinder bore choke tube included. Also has fiber optic front sight. There we go. Like I said, rod post. Picatinny rail on the receiver and spring-loaded extended forearm with Picatinny rail 5 and 1, 2.75 inch shell capacity, and black synthetic tactical pistol grip stock with pad and sling swivel studs. And this is a CAI catamount SG2118-N. These are new The item number is 3-500XQ. I would recommend, guys you know, it's like the Chinese shotguns. When you get to $150 or $100 a gun, do you think it's worth it just to have a 5.10 gun like that on the shelf? Hell yes. A lot of guys are going to be surprised if you can hand out something like this. Like the Nagat rifle, which by the way, there aren't as many of those hanging around right now as you might have noticed. A lot of people have been snagging those during this wave in the last couple of days too. $150 at, again, this is for the Lynx pump action shotgun, 12 gauge, 18.5 inch. Guys, if it worked for one action, it pays for itself, but it's going to work, these things will work better than that. They use these guns to mow down their own population. These are riot control guns. These are normally used to shoot their own people, so they're reliable enough. If you look close up at the thing, you'll see it looks to be an 870 type knockoff action. I don't know how intercooperative that is. It might be even part for part a copy. But you'll have to, if you've got a Remington, be careful. But test out and see how many parts cross over. A lot of times, especially because the 870 has been around for so long, There's a lot of people that have made very very very close if not duplicate copies. The Chinese had remember those 870 crude knockoffs with the wood stocks that were coming in for $100 apiece. Try to get everybody to buy those. Why? Hey, it's a handout shotgun or it's a shotgun I can have sticking in the barn. I can put a little nice coat of paint on everything so it doesn't rust so much. I can lubricate the inside, load some shells in there, leave it hanging around and if I need it, sha-sha-boom! Choo-cha-boom! Choo-cha-boom! Choo-cha-boom! Choo-cha-boom! Reloading, reloading, and by the way, I'll betcha I just drew some attention for all my friends so that I've been firing and I kind of, you know, laid some rounds on target. Now I didn't use the sixth round, you'll notice, only fired five, but I'm reloading the tube. That way if something comes up on me I can drop the tube on the target, pull the trigger, and I know I got one more in the chamber there. Meanwhile, I've reloaded the 5 and the tube and now I can continue to ch-ch-boom! Ch-ch-boom! Ch-ch-boom! Well, they're papered. It's one of those things you've got to live with. It's like, again, to get them out of the system, we've got to pull them sometime. But they're worth it. For $150 a piece, they're worth it. Those really are. The Turks are Chinese Chinaman for the moment. The Turks are a cheap prostitute we were using to try and get World War III started, remember? And that's why they let all these Turkish guns in. Well, now we got a, you know, apparently there's a little pig, you know, a little hog of them here, a little glut of them. And for $150 apiece, yeah, I'd snag one. Yeah, but how do you get it if you can't get it? You know what I'm saying? I mean, I can't legally get the dad. Well, I understand. There's nothing you can do then. I'm talking to all of our people who are doing paperwork on guns anyway. You're looking at a couple, well, 300 and 350 for a real tail end. You might find one of the show walking through for less if somebody's hired up for money. But for what this is, it's got all the goofy features. I mean, to me, I'm not... pick a tinny rail on the front pump rod, the pump handle, but it's there and really it serves to be like an aggressive rail, so if I grab it, it's probably going to give me a little more bite so I can work the action if I have to grab it that far forward. The other thing is, since it looks like it has a full end cap like an 870, this thing could have an extension put on it also. You could put a tube extension on it for at least putting a couple more rounds. and we always do that. So again, it's got an 18.5 inch barrel, I prefer a 20, but I can live with something that's you know, shorter than that for a shotgun, I don't care. You know, 18.5 inches long for the barrel. Did you read that article about now they're going to make us register nail guns and players? Oh yeah, yeah. Well that's expected. You see, it's funny, there's one cool thing about this though that is so far going to be kind of neat. Necessity is the mother of invention. Guys, I've talked about air projecting firearms for a long time. Lewis and Clark, the one that they carry, everybody's familiar with now because they've been reading all kinds of articles. But I've noticed that not many people have done articles about military air guns that were standard issue. The Austrian army, if outfitted whole units, in fact most of their army at one point, in 1802 carried air rifles, not percussion, not flintlock weapons, they carried air rifles, the whole stinking army. Now that was a big leap forward, but here's the thing, air is free. And that's why they didn't like that idea when it comes to controlling arms. The other thing is because air was free, remember Napoleon made it a death sentence to carry one of those Austrian rifles in Spain because it was a perfect sniper rifle and guerrilla warfare weapon. The only thing you had to worry about doing is focusing on putting a projectile down the end of the tube. It was still a muzzle loader. But other than that, you put it to your shoulder and you pull the trigger fire, then you put it back down, reload it, and put it back up and fire. You don't have all the powder control and pan priming the pan, which meant that you could put 3, 4, 5, 6 rounds down range before your opponent even realized he was being shot. And on top of that, think about this, no sound. until some guy got shot and you could kind of figure the bullet went in here and went out there and I saw that you couldn't be fully sure where the projectiles were coming from and if somebody really wanted to mess with their head here's what a gorilla would do you have two or three guys over there on the other side of the road with muzzle loading rifles you fire with the muzzle loading conventional muskets and you fire into the mass and you'll hit somebody But while they're doing that, the air rifles cut loose and they load as quick as they can. And in the confusion, nobody would be able to figure out until it was too late that you'd already fired them up with probably three or four times as many rounds as they heard, which was perfect. And in the states where they're doing this, like where they're doing it, this is what's cool. Remember what I said, well, do this. Go to Paintball Gun, like go to Rap4.com. Rap4 is a paintball company, okay? Now you take a look at RAP4 rifles and all their weapons now and take a look at what they look like. They're making direct copies of the MP5 that look kind of like they're chunky, like it's an MP5 that's been eating too much dessert. They make an AK and they make an AR-15 and they make other HK guns and they sell them. And you can't tell until you get right up on them whether or not they are. Now here's my point. Rather than a round ball, why not develop a feed mechanism that would use a FABO? And bringing your arpeggiers down in size and going with better materials, you could get to shotgun slug performance range immediately with a paintball gun. No projectile that's pushed by any kind of flame or explosive charge because it's an air gun. See how that works? So, you know, what would be cool is they'd like to rub it in their face and rub my weenie in their face and be able to brag up that we not only have perfected the air rifle, but we've advanced logically the air rifle to its next level of performance. Because there's no reason for an air rifle type weapon in big bore to not be magazine fed. We've already perfected every stinking kind of magazine you can imagine. All we need to do is make it work with that RAM air system. So what do you do to keep the thing cocked to when you have it like for example in a truck and you're rolling down the road? You have an inline lock block safety just like you do for most firearms. You leave it pumped up? Well it's not pumped up, it's an air tank reservoir. Oh air tank reservoir, okay. Right, that's what the Austrians used. They didn't get one shot. You've seen these before, but you never knew what you were looking at probably, and I grew up the same way. When I was little, think about this, when you got Christmas, they had like a birthday present and Christmas wrapping paper. They looked like they were old antique soldiers. They had these weapons, but they had a water ball underneath right in front of the trigger guard. And I always wondered when I look at those, because I always check out my wrapping paper like that, I'll look, soldiers! And the guys themselves had like, they were actually a teardrop. They weren't really round. They were like a teardrop. If you look, the soldier themselves would carry anywhere from 6 to 8 to 20 of these air tanks on a belt that ran across from their shoulder down to the belt on the right side of their body. The tanks were held in the front and the rifle shoulder was kept clear. They were good for anywhere from 9 to 11 shots. before they had to change the tank. Well if you think about that back in 1805, guys you got five shots off before the poor fool in front of you maybe gets two. And not only that but they're originally, here's what's really hellacious, the original projectiles were octagon shaped pieces of iron. Do you know what that did to somebody when it got to the other end? They weren't even bad. Oh my god, the worms had to just be horrific. We're talking about 700 feet per second. Oh yeah. Well you're talking, depending upon the models, which of course they perfected, but I want to understand there are five variants on what were the standard issue. The original prototype field tested model, which was somewhere around, I think, 60, I want to say 63 caliber, but they went with two different weights of iron for the projectiles because they could do it. All they had to do was make sure they were shaped approximately the same as the barrel that they were going down. And it was basically, look at it this way, have you ever thought about this? Remember 40mm grenade rounds, unlike what you see in the movies. Guys, until they spin so many rounds, so many RPMs, all you've got is a big 40mm slug coming at you. But let me ask you something, would you want to get shot by that? If you're a chef, no, I don't think anybody wants to get that big 40 millimeter slug stuck in their chest. And that's what happened with a lot of these rounds years ago. I could point it out Vietnam a lot of guys got shot with 60 millimeter or they'd have an explosion nearby and the 60 millimeter route the 40 millimeter round to get shoved into their chest sideways and then they had to bring in a Surgeon and sandbags and there'd be a volunteer nurse and they'd have to surgically remove that big old 40 millimeter slug that they didn't know it was active or not because it was a grenade You see so so think about this now think smaller surface area higher velocities Again, ideally, you know what, I want to keep it subsonic. It could go supersonic. I'll guarantee I could make a Sable that would go supersonic. But consider this. Do you realize what kind of a people getting done that would be right on the edge of supersonic as far as its projection in energy going downrange? But consider that there's no noise coming out of the end of the tube. There's no boom boom boom boom boom. There's no, there's a foot foot foot foot foot. All you have to do is take the time and listen to or go to a paintball event and listen to what you hear in terms of noise projected by the device. Oh yeah, when they hit, I mean, press it, they hit damage. They hit hard on their chronograph so that they don't hit too hard. Now, they can go a lot harder but they regulate them on the game course. That's why there's a guy with a chronograph there and before you can go and compete you're supposed to have your weapon checked. They actually chronograph it for velocity and in most places that I know of they actually tag your gun so you don't open it up and change it. They put a little sticker on there that they've got that stays on there for as long as you're on the range you better have that sticker on your weapon. because if you change out that aperture in the field and everybody else is set to a certain standard, yeah, you get an advantage in range and energy input, but the thing is that you can also hurt somebody. Now, let me get a pistol, a cartridge firing pistol. Right, but I'd be more interested in a light rifle system or... One thing I would do is always go the other way. I've said this before, is find out what the perfect formula is for a single shot sniper type air rifle. Take a 20 gauge, think about this, take a 20 gauge, now you call them Remington but we used to, I used to buy them directly from the company from BRI, but they're a hourglass shaped Sabo slug that they use in the Remington slug. You know which one I'm talking about? You all have heard of it, see it out there guys. Looks like an hourglass, they're made out of solid copper. Now I can I can buy that projectile with the Sabo Separate I can buy it right from the company if I'm willing to go hunt it down now think about taking that Sabo and Putting it into a single shot air gun brought to maximum pressures I'm not going to try and blast away with it But do you realize without a silencer how quiet that weapon would be? Yeah, yeah, those are sold at China Mart. I think so much on a mark right? Oh everybody's selling them now, but it used to be had to buy them You had to go find the companies that develop them Fiaci makes a fin stabilized round that looks just like the standard anti tank Sabo the hourglass model came from guys who took tank technology and scaled it down to shotgun Now you take the 20 gauge and you'll be closer to existing barrels but if you had to make your own barrel you make it a custom solid 41, 40 chromoly or whatever you want to in a full gauge, a full weight barrel that would be a bold barrel to support and stabilize the airsoft system. It's not because you need to worry about the barrel exploding because of pressures. It's to stabilize the platform so you can reach maximum range with the weapon system you perfect. See, we're kind of, I've argued this for years, anybody could do this. You could take a, what is it, oh come on. Any one of the earlier bolt gun type paintball guns could be modified quickly, but ideally, If you could find a company that has any or would be, you know, if they're building a single shot right now, typically they're a bolt gun. I don't even need it to be a bolt gun. Ideally, a top break would be the best choice because then you could insert and then top break seal and boom! And your bullets going down range at, you know, just under supersonic and bop! And your accuracy would be just like a 12 gauge at 200 yards. Now since they tell everybody that we can only reach 200 yards, that's that scam everybody was preached to for years Well, most combat actions only happen at 220 yards. Well good then my air my air propelled discarding Sabo 500 grain 20 gauge shelf slug when it goes downrange It'll put a slug right into a pie plate just like it will with a Remington in 20 gauge But the difference no flash no noise and I put it down there without anybody having a clue where it came from I think that'd be a kind of a positive thing. Don't you of course it also be the optimal gun for poachers Here's another thing it would be very easy to put Don's night sight on that device Because you would have minimal recoil You can still take advantage of using all these new exotic shock stocks, you know the shock absorber You could do all kinds of things to make it work for you now This is a far cry from the idea of the pump shotgun. We're talking about four hundred and fifty dollars But as long as we got on that subject and again, it's weapons Wednesday I will remind you guys that the more creative you are and the more things we have out there like this The better off we'll all be yeah you put a good air rifle in your truck, the feds can't do squat. Well the interesting thing, here's something, don't you have a, here's something I've pointed out with all these airsoft guys, they're already doing it. What's to stop you from putting an adapter on the buttstock of your weapon because the buttstock is usually the air reservoir? Well what if you were to make up another buttstock and you had an air fixture that would go to a compressor on your truck? And your truck can run a comp- Oh, now you got unlimited air pressure, don't ya? Now if you made a magazine-fed weapon, it's purely a matter of how many mags you have stacked up. Cause you've got all the air pressure you need to go, p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p Think about it. Go ahead, callers. Jump in there. Yeah, you made my mind travel faster and harder than Don's mind on that. Now I'm thinking of the round. What if it was shaped like an arrow? Like a dart? Yes. Oh, you could do that. For a single shot? Yes. In fact, if you look, go to YouTube. Now, there's some kids, and I've got to bring this up again. There's some kids that are taking 2 liter bottles. They're putting a Schrader valve on that. on the side of it. The whole thing is on the video there. They're taking a PVC pipe and they're taking an arrow and they're shooting it through three-quarter inch pieces of plywood. And the whole thing is off the shelf, all, you know, out of the hardware or from the local pop store. But the Schrader valve allows you to pump up the 2 liter bottle to get the pressure you need and all you do is use a standard off the shelf plumbing ball valve for your release. The air pump that they're using is just a kickstand pump for a bite. Think about it. You all junk off the shelf kids and that's crude and rude but guess what? Ed, it goes through that plywood every time, doesn't it? Well, on the one you see the test shot which he didn't... Want to actually go through the hay bale went through the hay bale and through his mom's back door, right? Yeah through the back door of the house Oops, oh, sorry mom So the fact of the matter is you got it right you see arrows or dart projectiles. Here's the reason we know it works guys How many of you used to have those old BB guns that opened up that were breech loaders or you know against them were bolt guns You could either buy the pellets or what else could you buy for your BB gun? You could buy those fuzzy little rubbery back based darts and they would stick real good Wouldn't they? And that's just nothing more than for a stabilizing system using the basic rubbery fuzzy material that they use for fly-tying. You know, for making the little fuzzy end, you know, like the fuzzy-buzzy thing, it's like rubber band material. And that'd be like a headshot type weapon. Oh, well yeah, but with a Sabo? Oh yeah, it'd be a headshot to 200 yards. You know I watched when we the guy that showed me how these be are the original say both likes guys when they came out One of the guys he was with the old Italian mafia here down the road. His name was big Louie Hoffa and all the old truck driver mobsters used to come out here just down the road around the corner and they had a game preserve and they'd shoot pigs and they'd shoot other stuff and god only knows who got shot back there because there's always gunfire going on and Well, the pigs were there too. They had a complete armory there and they had a complete depot of ammunition there of every caliber you could imagine. It was there that some of the first scope mounted shotguns using those SABO rounds were perfected that we saw in the country. Of course, God knows what some of Mr. Hoffa's friends did with those. You know what I mean? Because the discarding Sabo was very desirable because once that Sabo leaves the tube, it drops away from the projectile and there's no rifling to trace, guys. Yeah. I'm sure a lot of the hitmen back in the day were using the air rifles. All those guys never got caught. Well, you were using pump shotguns because the SABO the advantage was even if it made noise the idea was that well, there's no rifling There's no way to track where it came from But now think go forward here today If you go to RAP4, guys, take a look at what they're already doing. Now, what we need is to, first, keep it simple stupid. The prototyping needs to be done with a single shot and it has to be a fairly strong action. But it's still not going to change much in the way of dynamics. We're going to throw more weight down range. If we had to, and here's a real stinker thought that I brought up years ago, maybe you got a little machine shop. and maybe you decided that you want to try and push that 500 grain projectile downrange. Here's a main idea, go get yourself, if you got somebody who's got a nice little CNC or you've got a nice little lathe, a metal lathe, if you've got a little shop, well you take that projectile that's made out of copper and you make it out of aluminum aircraft rod. You mill it out of aluminum aircraft rod. Now let me point something out. Your overall throw weight is going to just be half to about 200 grains to 220 grains probably. Maybe a little more or maybe a little less. It depends on the purity or the alloy that you use. What kind of aluminum rod, what kind of alloy, what its composition is. But whatever you do, you just have the weight so you've got a lot easier job ahead of you pushing that thing down with the energy you have out of that aperture. But the other aspect is it will be just as stable going downrange typically. 200g is a pretty good weight. That hourglass form does a pretty good job with regard to aerodynamics and lower velocities, which is what it was intended for. And when it gets to the other end, that aluminum shatters like a whole bunch of safety glass. into little cube square crystal blocks about the size of your window when it gets smashed your safety glass window. Guys would you really want to get shot with that? It would be like somebody walking up and putting a 12 gauge right to your head at point blank range and pulling the trigger when it hits. Because that aluminum, I've already done the research on this 40 years ago, we were testing aluminum in all of these designs. I've watched it, I've taken a made ballistic gel chest, I've made ballistic gel heads, and you take that frangible aluminum and put it downrange at those kinds of velocities, When it hits, it literally is the way, it would be fascinating to get a picture of this in the shell. We don't have that technology, maybe now we could. But when that shell hits, literally as the energy passes through the projectile, it fractures and expands in conical form, just like you see in all the slow motion images, and it just shreds through the objective. It is just like, it's horrific. That is the only way to describe it. If you think a regular shell is bad, the wound channels from each of those square blocks going through tissue or material, it just shreds to jelly. That would be impressive. Right now you'd be muzzle loading the gun, number one, because most of them are not, although you could have it preloaded, for instance, you could, you know, if the barrel opens up or unscrews, some of them do that, you could unscrew the barrel, you could load the, load the sable in so it's seated perfectly, screw the barrel back in and experiment with existing barrels. The first thing that I would look at doing would be taking in and making a heavier barrel. These things are incredibly lightweight which is cool, but if I'm looking at a placement weapon for anti-personnel, I want to go with a heavy