November 20, 2014
Evening Show
1h 8m
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2014
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Mark Koernke and Don Butcher discussed winter emergency preparedness, focusing on survival techniques for cold weather vehicle emergencies and water submersion scenarios. They covered practical items to assemble in emergency kits (lighters, matches, candles, first aid supplies, hand warmers), techniques for determining orientation in avalanches and submerged vehicles, and specialized tools like scissors and center punches for vehicle escape. The hosts also discussed diving experience, motorcycle riding history, and briefly addressed Ferguson protests and federal government overreach before closing with contact information for night vision technology resources.
- winter preparedness
- vehicle emergency
- cold weather survival
- emergency kit
- water submersion
- avalanche survival
- diving
- night vision
- ferguson protests
- federal government
- michigan
- self-sufficiency
- constitutional rights
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You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money is spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. And keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children will be brought. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children? to live in fear and be a slave. Oh, sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch him tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this the deal the land of the great? The best things that you can do is make a copy of visitor from the past right off the air and share it in every media you can yes State that it's from the Intel report guys and again give credit the author is Failin Paulk Failin Paulk th they won Paul and Again, good evening. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the evening intelligence report. I'm our cookie and I'm Don butcher one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, central, east, and south. Ladies and gentlemen, you were listening to us on... the Anyway, Don, it ain't bright and sunny here. It's dark, oh dark, dark outside. It's not oh dark 30 morning AM, but it's dark, dark outside. What's it like in your neck of the woods? What's the date today, sir? What's jumping off the wall up there, please? Well, it's cold here on this, the 20th day of November, year of our Lord 2014. High teens tonight. Barely got above that in the broad daylight here. My outside cat, he sat on top of the ladder that leads to his little way into the shed in the sunlight. As I sat here and did the hour this morning, Mark, and then about 11 o'clock the sun went away and he went in the shed because there was no more collecting some of that solar heat even in the breeze, even in the 21 or 22 degrees. He was collecting some solar heat and when that went away that was the difference. I think I'll go in the shed now. Apparently that's what he thought. But again, it's that kind of day. And you know, hey, it's winter time in Michigan and it's winter time in Wisconsin. And boy, oh boy, it's not the kind of day where I'd want to sing that song, Mark. How does that go? I think it was John Fogerty had a line. If I had my way, I'd shuffle off to Buffalo. You shuffle as far as the edge of Buffalo. Yeah. And then you'd be shoveling on the way to get the rest of the way to Buffalo. He's better. There's no shushing over the top of the 6-8 feet he got there. Yeah, in fact they found someone in a car under 12 feet of snow. He got caught in a drift and by the time they got to him he wasn't complaining about the cold anymore. He was likely long gone. Well there again, that's why we warn everybody have your cold weather gear with you in the vehicle guys. in the vehicle along with the basic supplies. In fact, let's talk about this real quick because now we're in the season. You can get a hundred handbags from the thrift store. I mean, nice looking. They were made for Schmidlatt Mechanics or they were made for A&B Bank or they were made, and they're promotional. Sometimes they have little slips inside and dozens of pockets. Well, treat that as a little throw together emergency kit. Inside, throw yourself a couple of Bic lighters, throw yourself a couple of packs of matches, and put those in the Ziploc bags. Put a box of matches in there. Boy, I'm really emphasizing heat, aren't I? What's the big deal with putting a handful of dollar store dense candles? The white, not the light fluffy ones that feel like, oh these are really light. Well they're also not going to burn as long. If they're going to be in a confined space, stay away from scented candles. Right. The big thing here is simple and again, long term storage. Candles can sit there and stare at you forever. But you'll notice my first emphasis was Uh, gee, uh, a couple different ways to light stuff, to get flame, to get fire. A lot of people think, well I'll just put a lighter in there. It's true, lighters are nice. And throw some in there. Go get some from the store and put a whole pile of them in there for a dollar. How many can get for a dollar? Okay. And then get a dollar's worth of matches and put them in there. Now you can get a whole big box of book matches for that, but you don't just put them in the container. You want them in Ziploc bags and put them inside another Ziploc bag if you want to really protect them from the moisture, because moisture and chemicals don't mix well. Eventually it neutralizes the active components and or changes their general composition. It's bad enough for the water, it's just in the air. The other thing, small in addition to those taller or thicker whatever type of survival or preparedness candle you want which are again cheap, they're not designed to be super fancy. A bunch of these little votif candles. They're again cheap, you can get like 10 or 12 to a card or usually in a little bundle at the dollar store. Now in addition to that some munchies grab yourself some and do a mix again. Braille mix is good. Yeah from the dollar store grab yourself, you know, so many packages of stuff In addition something that has moisture in it, but not necessarily water because the water Well, if it is wintertime, it might make it hard to chew on. Yeah, it goes in the car But on the other hand something that has fluid in it. That's a canned good is not a bad idea as far as food goes, it still is probably going to freeze to a degree, but in many cases they're natural oils and that helps to change the composition. Plus, remember, you've got a can of food. You have something that can be heated. And, oh, that's right, you've got heat there, by the way, remember? In that respect, Mark, it could become a discipline thing. When you come in from the car, that little portion of a different bag sits by the door. When you go back to the car, you pick it up, much like you would take your car keys with you. So it's not frozen, it's ready to deploy. And there are a lot, I can't emphasize this enough because I get these all the time. I save every black bag I can get because it's for props. Down the road we're going to need to look like the bad guys. Every shape, size, and pouch you can imagine, but also because we do a lot of special technology and I like to have containers I can put everything in. So these bags are out there. You can get these, they've got shoulder bags, they've got backpacks or little backpacks, a holding yard. Well, if it's a backpack, stuff it with all of the above, throw some extra double, three, four sets of gloves or mittens in there. Throw a scarf in there. Do you know how many scarfs I get every year? I mean, more? We don't need any more scarves. I just roll them up and pack them away, guys. Well, you know what? You can take one of those nice wool scarves you got for free. Two or three of these. Around here, the Scandinavian stuff is really popular. You know, the Finnish and Norwegian. So guys, it's not like I, not only do I get, you know, throwaway stuff, but really nice throwaway stuff. It's virtually brand new in the package. Two of these Nanooka the North slash Arctic Finn stocking caps look like, they make it look like Jane from Firefly. Okay? I got it. I got three of those last weekend done. Well, those are wool guys and they are double lined on the inside if you ever look at how they are really built. And they are a kick but cold weather hat. Well, I guess so. They live in Finland. That's mostly in the Arctic Circle if you haven't looked at the maps. Well, headgear, handgear, scarves. If you look around, again, emergency blankets which are almost like a gimme but you want to make sure everybody has got them. So you need to mention them on the list. Stuff a bunch of those in there. That backpack isn't going anyplace and you pick stuff that nobody's gonna miss because it's not part of anybody's inventory as far as the clothes go. Sometimes like I recommend in case somebody goes, ooh that's a cool looking hat. Take the ugliest Warm hats you can find. I mean, there's some pug ugly stuff out there. Some people like them though. I mean, I don't remember what's going on. Yeah, the one that looks like Elmer Fubb, there's always somebody that's got a... I want that. Yeah, so the thing is that what you want to do is make sure it's stuff that it'll work really well, it'll cover you up. Hey, if it is colorful, it'll attract attention if you're looking at an emergency anyway. Okay? There's a number of other little items you can put in there varying depending upon your personal attitude. I like to put a lot of other utility tools and survival items in there. Needles, pins, sewing kits, safety pins, a number of different noise makers, a compass just as a policy. But that's because if you look around and you go like two, we've got church stores around here and they're just over packed with stuff. People are donating grandma stuff non-stop. and so there's no reason to say well this would cost me a hundred dollars or two hundred no wouldn't it be be pennies and again you don't look for the latest cutting-edge state-of-the-art this is an emergency package you know you can leave in the car if you want to and you're not going to cry if something happens to it even if it's there it's been a lot of what it needed it's priceless and that guy frozen death in the car should you know could have been you know potwell depends who's knocked out it was knocked out maybe who knows but uh... if if he was breathing and just I'm trapped in the car! Personally, my arse wouldn't be in that car for very long unless I was pretty sure that I can't get out for jack or squat. I can't believe the electricity would be out right away on the vehicle, so most cars, big chunk of them, have electric windows now. If it's a manual window, you see everybody goes, well I couldn't get the door open! Well, roll the window down. What now first you determine up everybody does understand that you know this is something I was going to mention the other day the most common problem with people who are avalanche victims is that they survive Initially, but one of the most common things is during that tumble you're you're kind of like mix-mastered aren't you Don you're going down a slope you're being rolled with all the snow and the in the rumble and the debris and the you know the snow and the ice and Guys, you end up in one form or another, you're stuck for a little bit, but you're not completely impacted to the point where it's like cement, although it is pretty static once it's in place. But the first thing is to determine up, what you think is up, and what up might be are two different things. So here's the first rule we always joked about, gravity sucks, right? So take a little bit of spit or just take an object if you've got a little bit of space, and take that pen or that piece of paper and put it out in the middle of whatever open space you've got and let it go. Now, you might be surprised that sometimes your perception of what up was and what up is are two different worlds, but from that point forward that determines your, shall we say, route of escape with regard to getting out of what you're in. The reason I say this is because some people have even had because they've balled themselves up and they've made space and they've covered themselves. They have some air space around them. Unfortunately, they didn't start to tunnel, but they start tunneling in the wrong direction. And going horizontal with the Earth and continuing to tunnel through snow is not your objective. The idea is to get to air, get to space, get above the pack. The same is true with a car wreck like that though. It's usually pretty obvious if it's if you're totally upside down You're not that disoriented for that long, but you need to establish very quickly where up is At night it's a little more difficult. There's no there's no sunlight to direct you or any kind of you know Illumination that's going to really you know give you an orientation that you can count on so once again gravity sucks But little pocket is that reference though? because you know I'm sorry to interrupt you, Mark. We've talked about center over the years a number of times, and as of late it's come up a good number of times, that word center. In that wreck, in that fall, in that slide, whatever brings you to this, there's probably going to be a lot of adrenaline going. No question about it, but if you can find your center, your body, your ears will tell you which way is up. If you can relax enough to pay attention. If you can relax enough to stop shivering so that the little bits of fluid in your inner ear can come to a conclusion and feed it to that, how does that go Mark? That most sophisticated battlefield computer on the planet. Divers deal with this, particularly a diver at night whose light has failed. One of the first things a diver wants to do is go to the, you know, if he's just off the bottom, he wants to settle to the bottom just to get that orientation. But you guys in suspended in space even just relaxing, just kicking and get that little move along. You can recognize up if you pay attention. Again, if you can find your center. If you can just come to that moment that this is what I need to do. That's what I mean. Find your center in this instance. If you can, you know, the elephant is about to step on me. That kind of condition. Here comes that whole mountain of snow. The car just slid into this. Whatever it is. The difference is, and many of you have witnessed this, the car starts to slide. And instead of, Gasping and trying to correct everything seems to slow down and get a little bit because it happens you make the corrections at the right time It's tackle something There's a word for that time slowing down tak of something I can't remember it But it that's that's an example of finding your center That's an example of what the Orientals calls them paying attention all of your attention in that instant to that instant, being right there in that now. That's an example of center. Thank you, Mark. And most important here again is the idea that 99% of what creates a casualty is panic. or lack of forethought because they don't think a process through it. This is something that we've talked about. Even though you just sit around the kitchen table and talk, this is why people need to communicate more. There we go, Mark, we'll get it right. And watch television less in some cases, guys, is when you're bouncing off each other, you pick up things. Like we were talking about yesterday and the day before with the stuff we've been doing on the program. The same is true with regard to what ifs. Because what ifs are quite varied but they're still like categories. In this case, the first issue is stay calm. Again, like you said, find your center. Find your gravity point, so to speak. Find Earth. Find terra firma. Put your feet on the ground. Figure out where the ground should be just because the floor is near your feet doesn't mean that's up. Right? Yup. So the first thing to do is find your ground. Find where it is you should be to orient your entire action from that point forward. If you're in a tumbled car and you're in a snowdrift like this guy, one of the things to remember is there's a battery in the car, but if the battery is disoriented or if the battery has been compromised, whatever power you have is very limited. So you now have to make some decisions very quickly if the car is especially totally disoriented. You need to be looking at what might I need. Example is, do you need to get that window down? I mean, you can break windows. But most people have a tough time because they didn't plan ahead or have anything really in their efforts to be politically correct and not have any weapons on them of any kind or tools. Breaking that window is a lot harder than you think. Especially reinforced with snow. Okay, something to think about. That's a big buffer behind the window. So, there's an issue there. Determine what you need to do or what you're going to do. Try to, again, if you can orient first up and down, which you will, the next step is trying to determine if you can take and do a memory playback, what was the environment like above you? You know, it's not like you're under 50 feet of snow or 100 feet of snow. Even if you're in a snow drift, I mean, the car fell into something, but there is an up somewhere. There's an out somewhere. and that's why you need to be thinking in advance what are you going to do? Once you are in motion you can't stop. This is the other thing that's most common mistake, don't stop. One of the reasons for putting those munchies and even energy drinks, it sounds weird, but caffeine. I'll tell you one that I thought might be rather useful, but again you got to watch it. Have you seen these little, they're just like the cups for creamer, but they're shots. Have you seen those? Oh yeah, they're extreme caffeine that you throw in to make your coffee and espresso. Most of you have probably seen these. I know the drivers have because at the truck stops at least half of them have them there as a courtesy. And they're like you get, you know, Irish cream, you get, you know, French vanilla, you get shot. Oh my goodness, shock or shots or whatever they call it. There's several different names. Black container, it's the same coffee creamer cup but it's extreme caffeine. Now to be quite honest, that's like, you know what's funny? We've talked about this. That little cup is really about the amount of coffee you would get in a traditional medieval coffee service if you were served coffee. Think about that. Remember we talked about how like, you notice the little coffee services that are brass, they have these little cups guys. Have you ever noticed how, well, if you really pay attention to how the coffee's made, it's more of like espresso syrup. GI Joe wasn't the first to call it. that. I don't care if it gets beat up, I make it up with stuff that's all tossed out, so I don't really care. I keep an eye out for people getting rid of stuff. I've been going through a banana box full of candles I got for free on Sunday. Seriously, a banana box, guys. And you know what? It's like probably, I'd say, four or five hundred dollars worth of candles. You know what I paid for it? Zero. Now some of those are these neat little candles like we're talking about that are three or four inches tall, about twice the thickness of your thumb. They're perfect for the kind of project we're talking about. But one of the other things that you need to make sure is that you put a little first aid kit in there and focus on stop bleeding stuff. In other words, four by fours, bandages, roll bandage, and even military compress bandages. I always carry three of those in my vest all the time, the smalls, the standard individual first aid dressing. In some accidents I've used everything I carried, including when I'm usually out and around the road I use a medium and that ain't small. It's about the size of a sandwich. I carry one of those in my left popcorn pocket in my pants if I'm kitted out for combat. You know Mark, there are commercial items. You can break the container inside the other container and mix it up and it gets cold. But you know there are commercial items. You break the container inside the other container and you mash it together and around and mix it up with your hands inside that bag and it gets hot. And it's heat. Yes. And for what they are, look at it as car insurance. You pay people that you don't know for car insurance you may never take the benefit of. Look at those hand warmers the same way. Buy a box and put them in the car. That does not consume oxygen inside the car. Good, good point to be made there. Again, there are a number of different solutions and mostly with the expense people try to do, but it costs money. You will spend a couple hundred dollars sometimes a month depending on who you are that is listening or three, four hundred dollars a quarter to pay an insurance company that will punish you if you use your insurance. To spend ten, twenty dollars on a handful of items and watch for some throwaways, what is your life worth? I mean the insurance policy only covers if somebody survives and you get to collect. We're trying to make sure that you can... You make it, you died. Yeah, we're trying to make sure we're gonna get you to the collection phase. They're worried about, you know, the idea is they're lucky. Maybe you do die and nobody thinks about collecting. We're planning on making sure you can collect. Okay Mark? That's how to think about it. Go ahead, jump in there, caller. You know, if you're upside down in a car, I wouldn't be liking any matches anytime soon. Right, that's all, you know. Right, that's the fuel issue thing. In fact, it's also a problem with a bunch of batteries close by too because, as we know, hydrogen gas. So, something else. But there again, that's where you have to make decisions. If you smell fuel, then there isn't going to be any match being struck. One of the things that I like about going to stores or businesses all these little china sport trinket items and there's something there's some really cool stuff if you go to deal extreme dot com you can get are one hundred and five hundred count buckets of these little fingertip l e d have you seen these guys Each one is like green, clear green plastic, clear red plastic, clear blue plastic, clear pink plastic, clear orange plastic. They've got a single LED and they've got a little wrap around or they've got a, some of them have like just a ring clip that goes around the end of your finger, like goes on your finger and you can put one on each one of the end of your fingers and look like it's a sci-fi thing. They really look cool. But the first thing I was looking at is, man that's a great way to have a whole stinking pile of little flashlights on your person, isn't it? Because these are all these new bright LEDs. Now here's the thing, the reason I bring it up, one of the stores in town, one of the businesses which are allies, they're giving out pens, but the little promo they just did, the new pens they got have a flashlight in the end of them, one of these super bright LEDs. And it's a throwaway pen and it's a throwaway little flashlight. It's got three little watch batteries running it, right? Well guys, that's one of those items that goes right into the vest. In fact, immediately I put it right in my flight coat and I put another one in the junkie work coat like I'm wearing right now and it's junk. But I put one in every one of them. Why? Well hey, I got a pen and I got something that might make light if I need it. And so far I've used one, the one three or four times just randomly, so it's already paid for picking it up. But these are little items, you know, for the very reason you brought up there, you're going to have to first of all determine your environment. So lighting a match is not the first choice. Some people would even argue hitting a switch on the lights because you might start an arc somewhere, etc. Well, that varies. If you're not initially able to see, if your lights are still on and she hasn't blown yet, probably hitting the interior lights for a minute won't hurt. The other thing too is shut down everything because you don't know how long you're going to need that power. So make sure you shut down the headlights, shut off the electricity as much as you can, illuminate only what's needed so you can see and then get to work. How about a flashlight in that bag? Oh yes. Another thing you might want to have in that bag, you guys, you might come across this at an old garage sale. You might have to go out and outright buy one. Look for it at the, you know, Goodwill or whatever secondhand store. sturdy pair of scissors with about three inches of draw, you know, the blade and a serrated blade so that in an instant you can cut a seat belt. Now you want these scissors made of metal through and through so that you can put your little finger and your ring finger and your middle finger in them and smack that window until it breaks. One tool, two chops. I like that. Now, a lot of these cars that have hard door panels have big pockets there and they're hard too. You take that pair of scissors and you study where you want to glue it, so to speak, inside that pocket in the driver's door, that little storage area in the door, and you move that pair of scissors around in there until you find a contour where it seems to almost hide. Then you go and get your little tube of silicone sealant like for your bathroom or whatnot. You put a little bead on the little bit of curve of that scissor around the handle. A little bead over there too. A little bead at the tip. Don't soak this. You put that back into that curve right where it was where it felt like it fit perfectly. You just hold it there for a minute and you walk away. And if you need it, if the car rolls upside down, it's not going to fall out of that pocket. And if you need it, you put your fingers in there and you pull that out of there. And if you need it, when you're exiting your car and someone's coming at you to bludgeon you, you pick up that pair of scissors and you poke them in the eye with it. And then you tell them, here, go run with these scissors. But hey, the dinkiest little things like that at hand. And how do they come at hand, Mark? Here's that great big word that a whole lot of people overlook and we have it painted on the side of a drum. Sometimes we roll it out and the wheel squeaks. We oil that wheel. That drum's called prep-a-ray. Buy a pair of scissors and stash them in your car door. Stash them. You know, you can use that same glue thought line, but a cop in some state might cut. to prosecute you for a concealed weapon if you use it to glue it just under the edge of your seat or if you use it to glue it to the side of your console tucked almost completely into the console where the carpet tucks up into the console that divide between the floor pans for your feet and the passenger's feet. You can just tuck that pair of scissors in there and with a little bit of silicone, even if the car rolls over, those scissors aren't going to go sliding up into that console where you can never find them when you need them. But again, now you're on the borderline of some copper calling it a concealed weapon. There are tools you can buy and they come with little knobs that you can glue to your dash and they'll do all of the aforementioned things. You know, cops, a lot of them carry a It's almost like a mechanical center punch mark. You know what? You guys, you machinists know what a center punch is. You put it on the piece of metal and you whack it with a hammer and now you can drill there and your drill won't walk around. Well, there's a mechanical center punch too and you hold it up to the metal and you hit that spring and it goes whack and now you have that little divot there that you can drill in and your drill bit won't walk around on the steel. You put that up to a side window of a car. and you touch that spring and it shatters that window. Cops know this, many of them carry this for the aforementioned reason. That way they don't have to hit your window three or four times and look like pansies when they can't break your window with their baton, their baton, their tonfa, you know, with the handle out of the side, the Billy Club with almost like a T-handle but it's only one side. Like, you hit that window four times and it didn't bust. I think I'll just shoot the guy. book that window then, but that's why a lot of compers will carry that little center punch. You can buy these in particular automotive stores or in automotive catalogues, car and driver, you can find these escape items to put into your car. You can find It's almost like a letter opener that'll cut right through a seat belt like it's butter But you could leave it right there on the council glued right there And you know you glue its little stand on the council and you put it in there It didn't even if your child got it out He couldn't cut himself with it or she couldn't cut herself with it But it will go through that seat belt like it's nothing and it might save your life And it because it could save your life it might save your child's life to the dinkiest little things but It's a big, big word preparation as I should have would have and wish I did. Here's a point to be made. This time of year you'll see a lot of slide-offs and in Michigan you can slide off into the water. You guys, you still have that sense of a lot of times you're going to be in water where the car might not even be submerged. If you come to a point where the car is submerged, well, you don't know how deep you are. Mark, you pointed out the problem with batteries. Your battery is going to probably operate your electric windows for a while, even underwater. Your interior lights are going to work. There's no major, you know, it's not like you're throwing a wrench across the top of that battery because it's wet. It's going to start pulling amps out of it, but it's not just going to say, I quit now. car comes to the bottom, it might be straight up and down, it might sit on four wheels, it might be upside down. If it's kind of upside down, you're way in a bad way because your access to air inside that little bit of container is very limited. Like most of the air might be by the gas pedal or underneath the driver's seat and the passenger seat. If the car comes like nose down, you might have a good portion of air in the backlight area of the car, what is known as the rear window. That's also the backlight area that above the rear seats. If you've got that, well, you might find that, man, I go back under water and I just can't open that door no matter. Well, you've still got some air on that glass and the pressure hasn't equalized. The water hasn't come up to the above the window on both sides yet. So you're not going to be able to open that door because there's water on the outside and there's air on the inside. Now that air is rapidly adjusting to the pressure around it as it leaks out or as the water comes in. Let me tell you this, if you're in 6 feet of water, if the roof of that car is 6 feet underwater, and man, I've got this little bit of air here, and I reach over here and I roll this back window down and it's down all the way, and I'm just going to take a breath of air and I'm just going to go up to the surface and swim to shore. If you're in six feet of water, that three pounds of pressure difference will probably give you an embolism and you'll probably be coughing a little bit of blood by the time you have swam too sure. Three pounds of pressure is enough to over pressure your lungs. Every diver knows this. But if you're underwater and you take a breath underwater and you go up, your lungs start to expand. Hey, Doc? Yeah. You know, you're a diver. Have you ever seen those little, uh, Little bottles with the regulator. It's not even a regulator. It's just like a mouthpiece. It's just attached to the top of the bottle. Yeah Yeah, and yeah, it's pretty cool. I mean something like that would be good I didn't even have it here your go pack, but I mean I mean it's like this it's like three minutes of error Well, it depends on how deep you are, but you're right that three minutes might be the difference between I'm here talking about it and wish I could have and should have would have Someplace else. Yeah, pretty cool Oh yeah, a lot of cave divers you'll see with those. A lot of deep divers you'll see with those. A lot of deep divers with those. They'll have a air station at like 30 feet on a line, like on the anchor line. Now the anchor line might be 50 feet away from the boat, but they might hang that line directly below the boat. So again, there's a number. You want to build in as many escapes as you can, and that goes back over to what's that word? Preparation. Because if you're deep diving, if you get into decompression and something fails, you just can't exhale all the way to the surface. You're going to want to stop someplace for a while and bleed off some of that nitrogen in your blood. Actually, breathe it off. You're not going to bleed it off. But that could be a solution for a number of different threats. Again, we've talked about leading your opponent into an oxygen environment. And you could sit right there and be breathing. Well, as long as they didn't see that indicator, they might see you moving into that area and pursue. And you're breathing and as they move into that area and particular down into that area so that you can move this inert gas into an area where it will be contained for a good while. And they move in there and there ain't no oxygen and they wonder why. They're just stumbling to the floor and the vision is getting blurry and they're gasping and they just become all disoriented as they fall to the ground. because if you walk into an area, like you go down the stairs into an area where there is no oxygen, where it has been purposefully voided from the air, you guys, three for breaths, you can't move anymore. The CO2 mine, actually something that was used quite successfully years ago, killed three different, three feds who were in pursuit in a situation where they'd planned out the evacuation and defense of a site. The stairway is an underground hallway. It went down about 10 steps and then the stairway led down to another hallway which then 10 steps up put you back up on the same level as the original aisle, the original hall. What they did is they had a full commercial tank of CO2 and as they walked through the area they hit the tank or opened the valve and walked right on through and kept right on going. The first guy went in and got about halfway down the 20 foot length of the lower platform of concrete, which was the hallway, and he flopped over. The other guy, of course, was in line with him because they were doing the hot, hot, hot... What's wrong with Mike? Fred's down. I've got to go help him. Of course, he was right behind Fred. He's down. The third guy came in because he saw the two of them down. He's doing the tactical thing, thinking gun, gun, gun. Meanwhile, he's sucking in lungs of CO2. the third one that died. It is a rapid overcome. That succanair and no oxygen overcomes very disciplined men, again in three to five breaths. It's why Halon was done away with as far as being able to, you can be able to buy Halon fire extinguishers at Kmart. And one of the reasons that they did away with them wasn't because of the people accidentally using them. It's because some people finally figured out if you got somebody in a hallway coming up a stairway, If you hose down an area with Halon, it's an oxygen evacuator. And no matter what you've got in your lungs, if you have a lung full of Halon, every time you suck in or try to suck in more air, the Halon does its job. And you aren't sucking any more air in. And CO2 works the same way because it displaces what you're saying, it displaces the environment. And what you have is a CO2 layer. It's kind of like being on another planet. you created another planet. A completely different alien environment. So it's a technique that is very simple and if you think it through, you know especially consider this one of those hut hut lines of about 11, 12 or 13 and they're moving real fast through an area and the whole area is saturated with CO2 and what happens if you were to block the door they came in? They're going to bang on it for a moment. Yeah, they hunt their way in and if they're gas-masked up it doesn't make any difference because this is an oddest thing. That's where I was going to go next. Yeah, they'd be, in fact, they wouldn't even have time to even tell you. The only thing they'd do is panic. They might try to turn and leave, but what happens if that's where you hit the blocks on a door and that big chunk of like 4x4 beams drops down as a solid door like in the Addams family? and there's no way out and no matter how hard they try 1000, 2000, 3000, 4000, plop plop plop plop plop plop plop plop and there's not even a shot fired. Yeah. Cherry red. Wow. And you know what? Doesn't hurt any of the equipment. Well, the pants will probably be stinky. Yeah, but they wash up don't worry and meanwhile you get all the gear the weapons the grenades the helmets the gas masks even because the gas masks won't be affected at all Yeah, so you can take everything out there warm dead corpses quite effectively and meanwhile the ones out the outside who realize there's 11 12 or 14 Beyond the door that aren't making any noise Well, they're beating to get there, you know get in and that's when the secondary explosives take off or whatever else you got for your You know fun toys on the beyond the you know, the the harvesting point Here's a little hint. You might look into parts of history and see German machine gunners with their primitive gas mask on, extreme gas mask made with cloth. Now how long do you think that's going to work? Now, how could they stay at a machine gun for a good long time Mark? They had a tank of oxygen right next to them and they had a little bit of oxygen bleeding into that mask. Now if you want to lead a group of people into an area like this and well you want to really you know Get them between the ears. You run in with your gas mask on but you've got a little tank of air coming into the gas. It's like a mini Scott air tank. Yeah. Only you do oxygen. Like you said, your best bet would be pure oxygen for that. Which would help anyway. It would help to pump you up. Which is a good thing. You know, you get oxygenating the body. More energy. Remember oxygen is good. So it's not a bad thing to have in general in any way. We haven't really touched on that in quite some time about enhancing. It's kind of like wood divers. You use different gases for different dives, don't you, Doc? Oh yeah, you want to eliminate that nitrogen in any breathable gas below, oh for certain below 200 feet because there's a thing called narcosis. You start to get a little goofy from the nitrogen mix in you, you know, you start to, you need some air fish. See that mermaid? At any rate. I didn't know the mermaids dove this low. I ran into mine about another 50 feet up. Yeah, but you eliminate that nitrogen. A number of benefits come. Well, you get that funny talk if you're breathing a Heliox mix. You talk like Mickey Mouse and that's not a particular benefit but that bleeds off a little bit quicker. If you spend days underwater, you can spend days and days decompressing. We don't need to dwell on this but a number of accidents have happened when a diving vessel has is being moved from underwater because they're diving in a can, so to speak, a dive vessel, and it's on station and they'll leave through a hatch and go out and work at 1,000 feet or whatever, 600 feet or whatever, and they come back and they go to sleep in there and they eat in there. And they go back to the job and then they bring that can back up, so to speak, and bolt it to the deck. decompress them right there. They let a little bit of air out over time and that feeds that, in this instance, hydrogen out of their blood, rather helium, helium-ox mixture, that helium out of their blood. So it doesn't boil up, literally turn from a gas to a liquid gas to an air-type gas in their blood veins from one fluid to another is a better way to say it. Oh Dave Martin. I got my first card from him when I was 14. He had a heart attack underwater. That's where you were going with that? Yeah, yeah, no, well... He survived that! His name was what? Dave Martin. Yeah, he was a PADI instructor. I got my first card from him in 1969. I don't know, for some reason I thought it was amazing. We used to have a Dave Martin run with us on the air on Communications Tuesday. Maybe that's what you're thinking. Yeah, okay. But you can look through the directory. There's a whole bunch of Dave Martins out there. But this one was a professional association of diving instructors, a PADI instructor. I got my first card from him and his fellows when I was 14. Yeah, that's a young man. Yeah, that's something I wanted to do. It was as young as you could be at that time. I don't know if you can get a card younger now. or if Patty still holds that particular standard. But I've still got that card and it's got the date on it and everything. That's not easy test either, man. It goes back over to... It goes, yeah, there's, you know, you work your dive tables and whatnot, not to mention the water work. But it goes back over to something if you want it. And we've offered up that in so many different ways. You know, let's pose that question. Do you want your freedom? There's a hooray, a hooray, oh yes there. Think about it. Everybody's out there raising their hand saying yes, everybody that listens to this hour. If you get that hunger in you, then you start to chase it, don't you? Some a little more than others. But again, it goes back over to, this is what I want. This is what I want to do. You start to dedicate yourself to it. I got my in like 1989 I think oh no I'm sorry like 1979 1980 I from a different instructor Dave Wisner Don Weisner from Don's dive shop many of you in the Detroit area might recognize that name I got an open water card from him in in oh 1979 1980 so it's good that only reinforces continuing your education and a I use that word again, reinforcing the basics. You can go in a number of different directions in diving. Cave diving, ice diving, rapid water diving like river diving, wreck diving. Those are all specialties I've been inside. You still have all your tanks? Right now my regulator needs the intake diaphragm, the big diaphragm in front. So this winter it'll get overhauled. It's good to send them out every now and then just to get everything checked. Take it apart, back together. Oh, down to 69 huh? Wow that's cool. Yeah. When did you get your first motorcycle? 1974. 74? Oh man. Yeah. I got my mini bike in 71. Yeah. I'm talking about real street bikes. There were a number of things like mini bikes. Let me see, in about 19... Well I had gears, I had Yamaha Mini Enduro. Yes. $400, brand new. In 1968, I was like 13. My uncle and I took a lawnmower apart and put it in a Stingray, you know, a 20 inch. Alright. And we started it with me on it and it changed direct. Cool. And no kill switch. and I went around the block on that when I was like 13 years old. That was fun. You know, these little dinky recountings, but you guys, it's the experience, it's the whole life experience that brings every one of you, not just me, every one of you, all of us, to what we are today. Isn't that true? And a lot of your life experience brought you to listening to this hour. Isn't that true? So again, sometimes it seems like we're sitting here just talking about what did Don do when he was 13 or something, but you guys, it all adds up, doesn't it? Yeah, 74 had a dirt bike with a 400 Cyclone PM Suzuki. Yeah, but I bet you hey, it was a lot of fun. Oh man, a lot of bikes for me, I had too much. I like to say, because I was riding when I was a youngster a lot before I was riding a street bike, and I like to say I did a lot of falling down in the dirt and the woods. Knock on wood. That goes back over to the basics. That goes back over to increments of learning also. You don't just put somebody on a .50 caliber and say, man, we're going to teach you how to shoot today, son. You know how to put your earplugs in? You just don't do that. We can reference this even into the motorcycle world. You see a lot of people, a lot of times these days you'll see a lot of older folks, a lot of old guys. Some guys, it might be their first Harley because they've wanted one all their life, but some of those guys have been riding all their life. You see some old gray bearded guy riding down the road on a Harley or one of these third bikes. that has everything but the kitchen sink on it. You know, the bags on the side and the big windshield and the bags on. You guys, when you start pounding weight up on a bike like that, it's a lot harder for a novice to operate. It comes over to technique. It comes over to, I've been doing this so long that I know how to deal with it. And that's not just riding a motorcycle. It's driving your car. It's walking. How often these days do you have to look where you put your foot when you're walking? I mean, come on, we're all grown men and women here, right? And I use that only as an example. I know it's as simple as dirt. It applies to shooting. It applies to loading your pack and unloading your pack. The more you do it, the more you know right where everything is. And the more you do it, you know right where everything should be. You correct the dinky little things as you go along, don't you? And that statement right there, and it's about putting your pack. The more you know what's in there, the more you know where it should be in the load, in that pack. It's tied to all kinds of things. The more you know about your gun, the more you know about your car, the more you know about it. Because it was said more than once, and somebody actually made money saying it, it goes just like this. I yield to you Mark. Again, one of the things to remember is it's funny you should bring up even walking. Here's one thing to remember though that as you get older you have to be reminded to practice what you learned. We have a tendency sometimes to actually misplace some of our skills. So the idea is practice, practice, practice and a sense of balance. is part of that. It's something that you have to pay attention to. As we get older, we do have to sometimes focus on re-engineering that skill. So don't forget, part of the reason is, well, wear and tear. You were mentioning bikes and you were talking about everything, and the first thing I thought of is what I'm seeing down the street down here all the time is, well, to alleviate that prop about having to have more skill, how about put two sets of wheels up front and make it a trike bike? Oh, that big thing? Yeah, and that's the far better setup. There's a cautionary here. That's a far better setup as far as we're going to make it stop fast and have traction and control over the stop and make it go around the corner and have control in the corner than one wheel in the front and two in the back, no matter what the suspension setup is. And what's interesting, those are shopping, like you said, if you look at the age of the person, now that is part of it too, is that everybody who's been running bikes is getting older, a lot of guys are, and there's still newer people coming up. But the trike bike is really, I would say it's one in eight down here. In fact, we've had this, well into this summer, and some of the last people to be driving their bikes before the cold spell hit, were the guys that have these new trike bikes. Because, well, now you've got a whole front end for a whole lot of fairing and everything too, don't you? Oh yeah. So if you look at the basic concept and do a Google on Morgan, or British cars, Morgan, 1940s and 50s. They built British built sports cars along that same pattern. Which is the old U.S. and a single back wheel. We're three of them. We used to drive them in the parades back in the 70s. He'd usually get a couple of high school kids to drive each of the cars. He has three of the egg cars too. One of the front door opens up. Oh, those BMWs? Yeah. He just collected them at the right time. It used to be a word for the back of popular mechanics. A bunch of people in the area here were engineer types and people who had money in the auto industry. They bought these cool toys but then they wanted to get rid of them. So he started collecting them and he has one of each. In other words, one of each color in each of the variations. I've always thought it would be fun to do a movie just because of the props you have. They all look sci-fi. They look more futuristic than most of the new stuff does. Oh yeah. But a lot of these people that put their index finger under their nose and tilt it up until it's like 45 degrees, you show them that car you mentioned and tell them it's a BMW, it would shatter their world. Oh yes. It was the first BMW to come Looks like an egg. The fun of it opened up. That's how you got in and out. The one I've always wanted to have is the Messerschmitt car. It basically looks like they took an ME 109, you know, cockpit. Howling. And put wheels on it. It's a Messerschmitt. Oh my goodness. An America. Oh, although we made it. The inter-missing sir blows the tails like him. But she's still cool to drive. So anyway, the interesting thing is it comes down to the, like we said, development of skill and proficiency. There's another area where we need to cover before we go and that's night vision. So Ed, don't pull us out right away. Ed, Don, night vision technology in a few minutes we can call you. What do you have? What's changing? And how can we get ahold of you? Give out the number a couple of times, please. Hey, let's do this real quick. It's hard to get descriptions out of a visual medium in an audio world. If you want to get the night vision video $25 to Nancy Cornke at Post Office Box 194 in Dexter, Michigan, where the PZ is 48130. Am I correct about that, Mark? 48130. Again that's E-10 P.O. Box 194, Dexter, Michigan, 48130. That'll get you the night vision video where there is examples of second and third generation on there and it beats putting hours on your device and you know what you can push freeze on a video and study an individual scene if you'd like. Just a thought line there but if you want to talk to me about night vision, green screens or thermal, my phone number is 231-796-84. 8. They don't get paid like football players. There may be 10 people on one side wearing parkas with two cartons of Marlboro under their left arm, a snowball in their right hand with some glass in it, and a paycheck in the back from Obama's White House. And then on the other side, maybe 10, 20, 30 cops, most of them looking literally like Smokey the Bear. with four layers of Arte Parka gear on and still body armor with that so they look kind of pudgy in the middle and like little round, you know like black blackberries, you know what I mean? Like from Willy Wonka and with a body shield in front of them too of course trying to look like riot police but everybody trying to protect themselves from the cold so the play actors on one side and the fed play actors both sets of fed play actors have to keep the ball rolling! That's really what this BS is all about isn't it? So there's somebody out on the streets. I'd like to see real pictures. You know what I mean? The promo picture of showing the riot police, you want to pick something where they all have like little heavier clothing on because with the short sleeves on and the, you know, the chest open, the shirt open, and this time of year that ain't happening. So pay attention when you're doing propaganda pictures. Either way, you know, try to pick something that's a little more realistic. It's winter outside! Yeah, do you see their breath? Yeah, no, no, it's just it's just it's obvious. There's not even any white stuff on the ground There are some pictures showing some of the other stuff that's been going on around Ferguson that are up to date You know like there's a little bit of dusting the snow here and there or there's snow in the yards and the you know The side lots which that makes sense But a lot of the stuff is you know still trying to pump things up and the bad guys are the ones doing it You know the regime Homeland Security is pumping it up from both sides kids ain't no doubt about it they're doing like they did with Katrina and the only thing they perceive is the enemy isn't the rioters or in the protesters it's the American property owner and that's how they're going to come after and attack So just be ready for it. Not only of just one, we should be hearing the music. We are at the top. Don, your number for me. Hey, my number is 2317968458. And PBN, P.O. Box 194, Dexter, Michigan 48130, please take the time and donate to Liberty Tree Reel. We've got to cover all of this and stuff out to Henry. and we've got to take care of replacing some things with Ed. We've got a couple of other computers for him too that have to be built up and he's going to have to have them in hand. So, got to get that project done and out of the way. God bless the Republic. Death to the New World Order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. But we are on the march, both day and night. Move raw. Kick them in the slack, beat them down hard, don't let them get back up. Remember, you gotta be able to see in the dark. Don, your number for night vision closes and people, you'll be available in just a minute. Go ahead. It is 231-796-8458. 231-796-8458. Thank you Mark. God bless you. God bless America. Revolution. Thank you for listening to Liberty Tree Radio dot 4 mg dot com. We all need to prepare ourselves. You might have the food, water, gold and silver, but ask yourself, are you truly prepared? 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