November 18, 2014
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Mark Koernke discussed military strategy and geopolitical tensions, focusing on the electronic disabling of a U.S. Navy destroyer in the Black Sea by Russian forces. He explained why deploying capital ships in confined waters like the Black Sea and Persian Gulf is strategically foolish, comparing it to the USS Liberty incident. Callers contributed discussions on immigration in Arizona, hit-and-miss engines for self-sufficiency, food preservation and canning, and the superiority of Russian military capabilities. Mark emphasized the need for listener donations to keep the Micro Effect radio station operational in 2015 and offered free advertising for local businesses in December.
- black sea
- russian military
- destroyer
- electronic warfare
- persian gulf
- uss liberty
- uss pueblo
- immigration
- arizona
- self-sufficiency
- canning
- preparedness
- georgia conflict
- ukraine
- micro effect
- donations
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Today closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters behind the lines in occupied territories west, south, microeffect.com. We're also on www.liberty3radio.com and www.talkradio.com as reflectors on AM and FM microstations, CD base stations, Good Morning Channel 27 and 29 and Channel 29 did the job. They were part of the program up there in Imlay City. We had to recover a truck. You remember over the weekend, congratulations to everybody doing their last cry. Thursday and Friday of course because we had additional exercises. Camp Emmerich, Camp Emerson, Fox & Wolf, half go down, tire blew out actually, nothing big. Long road, outside of town. So we went and actually, the guys came out with one of the military, and because of the micro FM and the CV channel 29 radio station, rebroadcasting, and everybody responded, got the change out, and because somebody was listening locally, one of the local businesses changed immediately, because we had, the cool thing is, is that it got somebody else connected, one of the private, He's up there that does heavy truck. And Joe, you know how the old tires, how the old military tires have the, you know, the dual ring system. Yes, sir. Guys, if you don't know yourself. Yes, you can. Very quickly. Oh, yeah. In fact, a lot of people, they don't talk about that big trucks. You have changed in safety a lot. But, you know, guys used to die in the repair shops from working on trucks like that, guys. Play grims. There's a rack. Yeah, there's a rack for it. And guys like to cut corners. Remember what we said about cutting corners? Usually get you cut. It was really cool though, that we connected heavy equipment company, everything else necessary, cleaned everything up, which again, we appreciate that. Now they're connected with Camp Emmerich, so congratulations guys, everything plugged in the way it was supposed to. So again, thank you. You made me think of something here real quickly for anybody out there listening. If you are in the barber trade, cutting hair, barber? I know a place where you can go and make a very good living. So if you're in the barber trade and you're considering relocating, give me a call here at the studio, 208-935-0094. I'll tell you the rest of the story. Ooh, excellent. So again, 208-935-0094. Well of course you're also listening to us on alternate homework and Goldespike technologies. It's sunshining here this morning. Joe, what is the date today and what's it look like? They're on the rock right now. You can tell well it is 18th of November ladies and gentlemen and right now we have 24 degrees here and Clear skies in Kami I and looks like we got some rain coming up here a few more days rain snow Whatever it turns out to be depends on what elevation you're at so and Of course, you know folks we want to Not really be aggravating or obnoxious about it, but we do have our eyes set and trying to make arrangements or get some idea of what we're going to be doing for 2015. And that's going to require all of us to participate and do everything we can to keep the micro effect up and rolling and on the air 24 hours a day. And that takes everything that we can do here. Okay? So if you would, you can call us at 208-935-0094, make the donation or contribution. I do have people that are calling me with pledges of a monthly contribution, you know, $50 or $100. And I'm not sure what this says. Okay, I'll figure it out here in a minute. If you can make a monthly contribution, folks, something that we can count on, please let us know so we can get an idea of what kind of a foundation we have or don't have. It would be very helpful. And we have been tangled up in a lot of things over 2014 and we're going to try to avoid all that for 2015 and we're going to start now. And again, I want to remind everybody that's out there listening. I don't care what little business you have going. Maybe it's a big business. I don't know. But if you want to put together a 30 second or a 60 second ad that we can run on the radio station, we'll run it for the month of December for absolutely free. Okay. We can help you in any way we can. Okay. We got an okay. Okay. Who's online? That was line three. Who's on line one? What's the same railing on line one Ray and we got ready jump in there sir. What do we have? You have Randy in Arizona? Very good, very Randy Just wanted to add a little device stock and you know one of the number one finger hand removers in Vietnam was a 12 gauge shell and Process and can find them even three for a dollar It's a crude device, but it was just a direct it more because not chill by itself We have lots of cheap resources from communists the Another thing I wanted to add was give you a little report here in the Northern Arizona and we're just being overrun by the Mexicans. So you've got the invasion corridor due south. Obviously the Nogales stretch. There's two things that I noticed. They were turned off again to peace. Remember I covered the scones in the air and that means we don't need as many boots on the ground. Well yeah, that's stopping Juan and Weirge a lot. The drone in the air is so they can record how many are coming through and they don't care who and wait. And that's something I understand what you're saying. What's going on locally? Is anybody kind of commenting on it at all or is everybody just in brain part? Well what we're really noticing up here when they move in there's one or two. The next thing you know there's ten. Evidently it looks to laundering illegal money through high-end used cars. It's pretty obvious and doesn't seem like local law enforcement even should do anything. How many there are. An invasion. I think they're all coming here to try to get in on this amnesty. Right, this is not an accident, what I said before, social engineering. By inputting this out and with a pump up from the communist news media, you've got the Central American, like Southern Central American, you know, wave, which was financed by and in fact promoted by the UN, the Non-governmental Organization, NGO, UN forces. And well then you've already got the Mexican situation the way it is before, at least there was some concern that somebody might try to law, tie that in with the public turned out that the 50% of their rifles are in a maintenance change-out issue. We know what you're talking about. Where the, oh there's a firing pin problem. Guys, that's a, that's a three, that's about a 30 second to one minute change-out for a man who knows what he's doing. Everything that has to do with a form of government is, and the pig that we have running in a lot of Chicago, they plan on destroying this country and that's what they're doing. What you need to do is just talk about them, they're going to abuse them to play communist. And if they play communist, the idea is to kill you. And there's no two ways, there's no nice way to say it. On a, on a, this plays out, it won't be true about who the enemy is. I agree with you there, Mark. Well, I, I appreciate your time, gentlemen. I just, uh, we need you to donate to the micro. It's, it's the way to put your money out there and do something because pretty soon it's going to be more than talk. That's true. I appreciate you guys. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Have a good morning. Alright, we got Bill in Texas here hanging out on line 3. I don't know why Bill's hanging out on line 3, but he is. Good morning, Bill. Get that rope off the bottom of your neck. We don't want you hanging around. We want you talking. Dropping off a projector on the car. Well, I made that donation I was telling you about. A small donation every two weeks. Well, thank you very much, Bill. No problem. If everybody could put in a little BO in a consistent way. So we can get an idea of, like I said, create some sort of a foundation that we can pretty much depend on. We can predict, maybe we don't have to push so hard sometimes or what have you, anything that we can do. And like I said, my big concern right now is that 2014 has been such a battle. We want to try to do better or prepare better for 2015. And folks, it's a relentless battle. The monthly charges never change and we just keep pounding and pounding. And so if we all started pulling together, we talked about this many times, many hands made for light work. It's an ongoing thing. It's not that you can, you certainly can. If everybody was giving you a little bit all the time, what you can, what you can swing. I don't want your last dollar and you don't get a cup of coffee or something. Whatever we can do here and keep it as consistent as possible, there's things that we want to do in the future that we just held back. We can't move. We're in need of some equipment right now, for example. Something I've been thinking to ask you about, and I guess this is as good a time as any, It's a phone system or something? Well, it's a conferencing system. Conferencing bridge, yeah. We're doing tele calls and then it just, I just didn't know if you were interested in it. Well, we don't have a backup at this point so... Well, I found the software for it. Fine, but I found it so I'll just pop it in the mail with the software on a disc or something. It's semi-regularly. Sometimes I make a small $100 free life when you were having that a couple of years and I'm not going to try to over the air but it helps and it adds up over time. Yes it does. Folks, go ahead Bill. When I called I was talking about that hit and miss engine. The single piston on almost any, there wasn't very much patrol even at all. Working engine. It's really like where we are in a couple of guys that for years have had a display set up with wide family of the hit and miss engines. We call it one third scale engine down to any number of different uses, either for belt drive tools We're talking the leather strap. Originally we didn't have any kind of polymers, but a leather strap. Whole shops were built like this. In fact, traditionally, machine shops were all driven off a standard shaft. And a machine hooked up, guys. They would give the heads up and it was going to be hooked up for the day was hooked when they started the main, very shaft. And I mean, like we've got one here. I'm not exaggerating. It's 80 yards long. Sitting there completely in place. A classic slash an antique system. drive motor about the size of your refrigerator. In fact, it's an old giving idea how early leave but he's hitting this engines because of the nature of how they were built. Accordingly, now you in reality, that's how you start the engine. I don't know if you've ever seen how they've been. Oh, you have Bill. I know you have. But guys to get them going, typically you grab the flywheel and you just give her a tug. The primary switch hit the fuel feed. And then you all you do is grab that flywheel and turn it guys like an old B John Deere. Yeah. And who would have looked before? That's why they call it a hit and miss because it has kind of a... To give you an idea of how that works, think about you have a bird on a regular lawn mower, don't you? About this like 10 pounds, 20 pound or 30 pound flywheel when you get her going. Three piston, two piston. They did make odd number piston machines. It's just a momentum to get at the same time to keep her... Yeah, the big thing about the hit and miss engines is... Definitely one thing about them is minimal maintenance. They were very user friendly for the farmer. Remember farmers used to... They ran, they did all their own electric and have anything hooked up to any grid. It's efficient because they used to do, they didn't want to have to do a whole lot of maintenance and the hit and miss engines and like you said the rear diesel. Let me give you an example. In this area, like in the north, pumpkin seat. I was thinking about this the other day. We got pumpkins because the end of, you know, of Halloween to run those original diesel engines just like vegetable oil and many others. If there's a vegetable oil, anything else they could cycle to that with the old farms everything's a cycle of life guys. And those squish you could feed to your animals as feed. Yeah, oh yeah, no one wants to waste. Oh no, everything in fact by the time you were done everything the pigs, the chickens, oh they went to town on that. That's the whole point. On a five acre farm you could virtually live and make a living. That was the traditional design. There's an excellent book out there and I was just thinking about this the other day, it's called Living Off Five Acres. It's called Five Acres and Independence. It was written like in the teens and printed in the early 20s. Yeah, that's the point. It's not something brand new. This is back when people could, you know, again, efficiently operate a system. You know, let me put it this way. You know, years ago when I was living in Minnesota, a dairy farmer lived down the road. He came up to the shop one day and asked me if I would look at his 1928 B. John Deere that hadn't been running in 15 years. And I told him, I said, I have no idea, I've never even painted one, never mind, look at it. So anyway, he brought it up anyway. He handed me a book, it was about as thick as a comic. And I thought, well, yeah, this is just gonna tell me a lot. What I couldn't believe was everything about that tractor was in that comic thick sized book. And with that book, it took me about a week. I mean, the thing hadn't run in 15 years. I pulled different things apart, put it all back together, cleaned everything up, cleaned out the fuel tank, and unbelievable, it was unbelievable. You know how you throw the wheel, you turn the wheel like you were talking. I set the carburetor like it told me to, everything that it, it was all the spec through the wheel the first time and the thing popped right off and just started running. I couldn't believe how simple it all was, but moreover, I couldn't believe that the information in this little book that he got for this 1928 B John Deere was so thorough and everything that it had to explain. It was incredible. And so that, what you're talking about there is just as simple. You don't have to be, you know, like today, you have to be an electronic genius to figure out how some of these things work. But for those type of engines in that era, it's about as simple as it gets. And I'm going to take you up on your offer about doing advertisement. Okay, great. I have to get off my butt, I can't use my heart attack as an excuse. Gotta get back into things. But it's gonna be a victory garden, copies that I made last year. It will be hundreds, if not thousands, actually I think it is in the thousands. Team hundreds, team 43, team engines. I spent many hours getting that together and organized. That will be part of that package. All right, well make sure you get it to us here, Bill. Okay. Okay. All right, well thank you. And that's about all I got. Alright, well we appreciate your call sir and your contributions and your participation and everything you do. Alright, thank you. Bye. Alright, thank you. Alright, we got George in Texas over here on line one. Good morning George. Hello George. We got 37 degrees in southeast Texas right now. Like I say, I can't complain, but anyway, Mark, you know, I don't know, but this is kind of a concern. This is why... And I've been hearing some Navy people say this is concern. You heard about enable ship being disabled electronically by... Right, the Black Sea, which we kind of... The argument is that they were electronically neutralized. This is something I've talked about for years. It's one thing to bully up on someone who knows how to fight. See, here's the problem with that situation. There's two ways that this works. You know, the destroyer was a Sukhoi, the run, everything on board, the electronic... the ship went blackout. Now let's remind everybody of something. You're not in the Atlantic or the Pacific, number one. You're in a puddle. It's an inland sea. It is a shooting gallery. It's why, and I'll remind everybody again, I've talked about this for years. You know that it was a policy of the US Navy not to send carriers into the Persian Gulf? You know what they used to call the Persian Gulf, guys? It used to be called the Coke bottle. Now, why was it called the Coke Bottle? Have you ever looked at the Persian Gulf? There's only one way in and out of the Persian Gulf. It is a shooting gallery. Stupid people send capital ships into the shooting gallery to think of. Get them thunk. The Persian Gulf has only one way in and out. It's called the Straits of Hormuz. I want you to go look at the Straits of Hormuz and see how narrow they are. Let's do Geography 101 here, okay? Now the problem with this is a big long narrow lake. It's like fighting, well, actually, Lake Michigan would be a better place to fight, but you still have nowhere to go. Okay, well, taking capital ships and being stupid and putting like, you know, carriers and battle wagons in stripes, sides of the Persian Gulf, is to try and get your people killed so you can make it an act of war. And it is a needless and stupid sacrifice, but it's typical for politicians who have never had to risk their lives. to put your children in harm's way. Okay? Now the thing about it is, okay, we're gonna do it. We're gonna go to break, but while we're on break, go pull up the Black Sea and take a look at it. And then ask yourself, gee, you're kinda on the doorstep of somebody's big country with double A class weapons, and they probably know how to use those double A class weapons. Well anyway, you got double A coffee in that cup. Grab that first, smell, taste. Oh, you got to go to work. Sun's in your eye. Put the visors down, break the sunglasses out, and break sooner. Because like George said, it's cold in the chute there, up and down the plane. Break sooner and watch behind you to make sure the idiot doesn't run you over that's not paying attention. See you in your rearview mirror. We'll be back right here on the rocks. We got George and a boat. Here is to... with a leaky, clean sensation like none other with Vitamer toothpaste and mouthwash. Vitamer toothpaste and mouthwash is a unique natural formula not found in any other oral care products. With a gentle combination of zinc, folic acid, myrrh and clove oil, Vitamer effectively whitens teeth, removes plaque and freshens breath and it does it naturally without any harmful chemicals. Visit us online at vytamer.com. That's V I T A M Y R dot com. Or call us today to place your order at 1-888-558-8482. 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And don't forget, once again, I want to make that announcement. It sounds like Bill in Texas is going to take us up on our offer. If you have some little business thing that you're working on or a big business, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. If you're listening to the Micro Effect and we can help you in any way, I want you to know that for the month of December, if you will send us a 30-second clip or a 60 second, your choice of information, what you want people to know, your advertisement. We will run that for absolutely free for the entire month of December. Now you can send it to us on a disc. You can call us here. We can get it through an email, shoot it in through Skype, whatever it has to be, an MP3 form. And we will run that for the month of December. Okay? So again, 208-935-0094. Make those contributions, folks. We're going to hammer out 2015 ahead of time as much as we can. And having said that, we're back to Mark. And of course, Mark, uh, uh, uh, uh, Jordan's in Texas still on the line here. And again, remember guys, 208-935-0094, you can donate 208-935-0094. Need your help and we need to stabilize things and seek your heart to effect up enough. I would assume if your list likes listening. Well, you know, another thing I've been hearing about Russia is that because the gas prices are low and that it's really hurting Russia. And what I've been hearing from on the inside from people saying that Russia's going to other sources of sources and that is they can mine a lot of natural resources and sell them on the international market. Well, number one, we're not hurting Russia at all. That's a cross. you know if you know i will point that out again before going further what i want to leave the thing about the electronic warfare issue though one of the things i would point out if if we get paid back the prices back hurting russia by knocking the prices back to their waging war against russia then when the prices were higher who were they waging war again the american people are being planned planned and scammed by the shite there's in washington and this is part of the weapons for silent war the old book about manipulating the economy. So, in other words, they're waging war against us by driving the prices up to destroy the American economy. That's what they were... But now all of a sudden, by knocking the prices, pulling the prices back, supposedly they're undermining what's going on with Russia. Guys, look outside. You see how cold it is? I'll think a lot worse in most of... I hate to tell you. They're going to buy gas and oil. Russia, but anybody else they can and it's gonna happen no matter what. Why? It's stinkin' cold there. Eating or eating, basic rules. So the shysters are lying their face off to no end. But what's cool, point out to everybody, when the prices were higher, who were they waging war against? The American middle class and the American working man. Like right now they're raging for it. Like I said, they're raging for it. It's not with gas and fuel now, but with food. I mean, I walked in the store the other day and it's like, and it's like the price of beef, the price of pork, the price of chicken is ridiculously high. Well, you're going to have to right now, turkey season and I'm serious guys, I'd have no problem eating turkey all year round. And turkey is going to be, you know, there's going to be sales here and there is coming down. That's what grab what you can, chop it up to make it make space and get it stuffed in the freezer or dry it or can it you can can turkey just like you can can chicken or any other meat you can jar it mason jar it guys so what's the big deal I mean you can do turkey jerky for that matter and it is tasty nom nom nom nom nom mark you know the thing that's where I work at you know I know it's one of the highest volume of sales in This is why managers sat there and said out for the last like three years and he's been with the company for a long time, he sat there and said, pickling salt, pickling and canning salt, nitrate salt. I've been, the sales have been going through the roof, mason jars going through the roof. Oh yeah, as a matter of fact I will repeat again, watch the recycle bins, though everybody else is too. I just got four from about 1975-76. I haven't seen those in a long original boxes. So I can tell the one box is from about 72-73. are from like 81. Oh yeah they've been sitting some box had dust real heavy dust on one side somebody goes oh these are old jars well thank goodness because you know what they cost them I grabbed them and other people are up for them. The canning has gone you know back into style which we need that technology but we need to remember that we've got to be ready for when we can't get lids. Throw your old lids away number watch them like you would everything else and zip lock bag what's the big deal store them we can make them I've been storing my old man-aid jars, any glass jars. Absolutely, any jar will take a mason lid no matter what, because remember a lot of your stuff doesn't take deep high pressure, and what you do is prioritize your jars accordingly. I don't want to go away from them, we're getting off on another subject here, and I'm going to stop right there. Number one, I'm going to go back to this thing about the Russian ships. I didn't mention this thing about the US ships, because everybody was talking about it, it's not necessary, but I would point something out. You're dealing with a double-a triple-a class military force now They are using what I said before Russians or chess players so far Russia has fought every action where they were that where the Jewish mob has tried to start World War three and if you don't think so you better be reading foreign news everybody knows the Israelis are Manipulating Georgia everybody knows that they come to Ukraine the queers have anything and they've raped first thing it is stole the gold gone from the Ukraine guys They're right on the back first thing the shyster bankers did was stole the gold But they've got Israelis in both these countries. The Israelis tried to start World War III with Georgia, but I can't emphasize enough that the Russians fought the entire action with what we call a Great B Military Force. Russian military forces like the US are graded in Alpha, Bravo, and Charlie specifically. Nobody throws equipment. Let me give an example. We have Abrams that upgraded to 120s but we have 105 Abrams and should still have some in stock because we got a lot of 105 ammunition laying around okay so we have both in inventory. Progressively we'll upgrade and everybody will be a 120 gun. The Russians are the same way just like we had still have maybe some M68 3s around the planet. Those are in strategic reserve because you don't throw 10. Okay we didn't throw everything away because we bought new. Here's a performance. Well, the Russians fought the Georgia campaign when they had the President of Georgia try to start war three in Ossetia. The Russians, we used AA class equipment. Latest Polish, latest Czech, latest... We spent billions and billions... We had American mercenaries on the ground. We had European forces on the ground and they got their butt cheeks handed to them on a platter. They chatted their whole arse right off them and the Russians pushed them right back to the starting line and then stopped. And the Shysters didn't know what to do because the Russians are a double-A slash triple-A fighting force and they're thinking people, they're not animals. Right where they started and said, we didn't start this war, we're not going to extend this war, we're stopping right at the beginning and you guys started, probably started, didn't you? Now, the Russians captured brand new Czech artillery and mobile artillery, brand new Polish equipment, brand new American Humvees, brand new everything. and the Turks abandoned it and ran back to the rear. Okay, I'm reminding everybody of some recent history. This is not like ancient history from 50 years ago. This is recent history, okay? So they didn't get what they wanted in Georgia. Ossetia is now, again, like what we've seen with most of what's happened historically in Eastern Europe. And we're going to see it here in the United States the same way. We're going to keep the Southwest. That report we had from Arizona is the best example. We're going to have to fight for the Southwest. We're going to have to push the Mexicans back into Mexico. Congratulations. You're going to get the war everybody said they didn't want. But because we didn't secure the border and because we left the pigs that we have in Washington, Betrayal, we now have a big southwestern campaign to clean up the Southwest. That's going to have to take place. California the same way. We're going to end up having behind the lines while we try to re-secure them. It'll be a fifth column, just like they said in Red Dawn. Well, the illegals, a lot of them were foreign military, and they were a lot more effective than everybody expected. Well, we're all expected. Now, the Ukraine thing pops up. Guys, in both cases, the Black Sea is right there. It's a puddle, just like the Persian Gulf. Here's the thing, guys. When that destroyer went offline, it didn't have to be that Sukhoi that was doing the job. You're on Russia's home turf. Just like if somebody were to come in and sail a battleship into the Gulf of Mexico off New Orleans, what do you think we would do? How would we feel about that? Do you think that we would react harshly, yes or no? If somebody decided to sail in and wag their weenie in our face, what would we do in the Gulf of Mexico? Now here's the other thing, remember, while everybody yaps and we're all conditioned propaganda-wise of, oh, aircraft, you know, aircraft, you're like flying tanks! No, they're not. Now they do have E-Wool, electronic countermeasures, which are built in, but remember that you're on the home turf, so land-based now can support the aviation arm. So that destroyer was put there to be sacrificed. That destroyer is a remember the main! wait a minute you mean you would like your winning intentionally to start a problem with spain now spain was a great power we will have a good to the uh... a little great power back in the day it was we had waiting state during the turn of the love the you know eighteen hundred nineteen hundred should have not a waiting state russia's a nuclear capable country that well here let me point something out everybody want to wag their american flag everybody's face we can't get to the space station the russians can How do we get to the space station, the International Space Station, Joe? Fly the space shuttle up there? I think so. We don't fly the space shuttle up there, it's parked. The pickup truck's wrecked. Our 1971 design, 1973 design pickup truck, had two or three accidents on the road, so we parked it. Remember, we had two different space shuttles that just didn't come back to the parking garage? Remember that, guys? parked our platform that got us to the space station which was the symbol of America! circa the 1970s because we've been sitting on our dead arson doing nothing in America meanwhile the big joke of the planet the Russian aluminum space balls because that's what they used to joke about them the week they cast a big aluminum ball and they take a router out and they just carve out the part that joke is on us because while we're all yapping about how land of the fee and home of the slave is so tough The only way you get to the U.S., you know, the International Space Station U.S. paid big money for, big chunks of money, is if you ride a Russian spacecraft to the station. So tell me how you can brag up anything, people. Well, Mark, do you think, when I say when the Russians disabled that ship, do you think that was like a shot across the bow to them? Oh, the idea behind this was, the reason that we're sending a... Corvettes and destroyers are sacrifice ships. Let me point something out. Guys, In peacetime you want to build lots of destroyers because they're cheap throw everybody goes look at the front destroyers guys a Dismission is to take a hit when they send a destroyer or a corvette in that's not impressive. That's called sacrifice What we have water ships then they got up they got to try and put the brain up of the yacht of the of the unclean slice the uneducated There there's a destroyer there guys the destroyer is the one in Corvettes are a little slow And the only other thing I would say maybe would be like, they're all low-end sacks. My dad was on a DE destroyer escort. When they came on the ship, they used to give them the basic speech, boys. Any other ship looks like it's a get hit. It's their job to go. You see the pecking order there and how that works? What they did is, for the price of a bunch of American sailors and seamen, email now, so it's, you know, Love Boat. For the sacrifice of Love Boat, probably pay attention to their electronic equipment. The problem is that said, okay, let me show you how the light switch works. See, you're not dealing with Saddam Hussein. You're not dealing with going into Kenya. Well, Kenya, we can't do, we got a president from there. Any of these other third-rate countries, we all puff up and we beat on somebody who's got 40-year-old weapons systems. But we've got a country that has, just like us, 40-year-olds and newer, which is what you're dealing with when you're dealing with Russia. And so it's a very different world, you know, because, yep, they have the ability to hit the switch just like we do. This is where we talked about fit for tat. You go into a conflict like this, you better get ready with the caskets and the flags and the funeral ceremonies. In a lot of bodies, you won't be bringing back. Because now you're in a real war. Mark, you're gonna say one thing about the Russians. They are very nationalistic, they're very patriotic. Well, they have every- okay, like I said, if a Russian destroyer, unannounced, or because they wanted to show force, decided to want to sail around in New York Harbor, what would we do? I think it. Do you think we'd be taking offense? Think we'd puff up and have all our military on high alert? You think guys? So how is it that if we take an American destroyer and put it, you know, in right and right and harm's way and piss somebody off that's got the same kind of weapons we have, how are we supposed to be claiming that we just didn't know what was going on and how we're just totally stupid world politics? Obama can. Yeah, sounds like we got a bunch of punk kosher pieces of trash trying to get us killed. Sounds like it to me. Trying to cover up the economic crisis by creating an international war. Well Mark, it sounds like, like I say, even if a Russian destroyer got in a Lake Erie, you know, it should be the same thing. Well, the thing is, I gotta get there. See, it'd be more like the Gulf of Mexico, although yeah, getting in, if you can get up the St. Lawrence Seaway, you're, you know, you're really stuck. Okay, at least with a Black Sea, you'd have to work your way out and it'd be a shooting gallery from the Black Sea through the Mediterranean. In fact, everything there is tactical range, not strategic, it's tactical range for modern warfare. So everything low and medium can fire at you and will hit you. See, that's why what they're doing is enough to get us into trouble, but not enough to lose too much. Now, the problem I have is this, I argued this years ago. You can go look, go get a map, I challenge everybody, go get a map. The Black Sea is just like the Persian Sea. But in the Persian Gulf, we put aircraft carriers so that we could see if we could get somebody killed. It's the same thing, but with a bigger cart. Here's the thing, guys. Land mass. See, you can't sink Iran. You can't sink Iraq. You can bomb them, and you can hurt them, and you can kill lots of women and kids, and you can be real proud of bombing lots of women and kids. Congratulations, okay? Because in order to bomb everybody else, you gotta bomb women and kids. Now, so don't yap about me how, we got smart bombs. No, you bomb women and kids. But here's the thing, when the time comes if somebody wants to launch launch, whoever's in the Coke bottle dies. Everybody knows this. Intelligence knows this. Anybody that sees them put an aircraft carrier or a capital ship in the Persian Gulf, we all know whoever sent there it was a plan to get them dead. To try to escalate the war. Now, we have the smaller ship, but we did the exact same thing, which is what they were doing with the Persian Gulf and the Crimea. Now like Ossetia, or I should say unlike Ossetia in this respect, the Crimea would have gone back to the Russians sooner, probably back about 15 years ago, but there was traditional politics being played and that's okay, leave the Ukraine alone, they're aligned with the Russians, blah blah blah blah blah, because they know how much of its ethnic Russians. Now would be a good time to mention the SS Liberty. Yeah, and again remember the yeah the USS Liberty that's what that destroyer was supposed to be They were setting them up to die and everybody was supposed to go who me the Alfred Alfred II Newman I didn't know this could happen How did this take place? Oh, we should be outraged. I am outraged How could this have I am really upset? You see that's the kind of plastic be as you get from those whores in Washington Mark, was this the same thing with the USS Pueblo? Well, the Pueblo was an interesting... Now, the Pueblo was a unique one because they really, really didn't want a Korean thing to escalate. Pueblo is one that I had to remind people about the other day here when we were talking privately because, like the Liberty, the Pueblo, of course, well, in this case, the Pueblo was flat out taken. But it was taken by the Koreans and they, of course, did the chop, chop, torture, torture thing to the troops. One man was killed. Yeah, it's a war trophy. We never got it back. But it's an example of another thing I was talking about. Remember, the Pueblo was a minesweeper. That's one ship I didn't mention. In the pecking order, minesweepers and corvettes were about in the same class. The Pueblo, like many of our sound-listening intelligence ships, pulled from our and then they tried to make it sound like boy this is really stupid and you know the the control press tried to attack the navy because of these because the listening ships were not heavily gunned but they were intentionally not heavily gunned we used to run five destroyers let me give you a history of intelligent ships we used to run five US destroyers they came from the ghost fleet from the old you know a boneyard they're stripped of all of their heavy armaments because they want to lighten them up guys Why? Because they're going to put tons of computer and electronic listing equipment on board. And what they do is all they would do is sail up and down the African coast from up around the edge of the Mediterranean, in fact all the way up to Libya, and then sail all the way down to South Africa and we would have a listing post set of tickets all through the 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s. In other words, we got our money's worth out of these ships. Why? Because they were World War II Fletcher class destroyers. Now the Pueblo was part of another category of intelligence collection ships in which they took a whole class, actually about seven, no it's probably seven initially, then three more for a total of ten. The Pueblo was a minesweeper slash cutter class ship. He had originally wouldn't have had any more than five inch guns on it and depth charges. Okay? They switched it out, dumped all the heavy ordnance, and put all the listening and technology on board so that they could cruise up and down the coast of the Pacific countries and spy on them. Doing the imitation of a porcupine. Yeah, and the Pueblo got waddled into the wrong place at the right time. The argument is there was confusion. It was either intentional or accidental, who knows. And they got picked up because it was cold, harsh seas. Everybody forgets that here, you know, the Pacific has cold places too. You know, like colder than, well colder than Hillfrozen over Korea. And the ship got caught in the right place at the wrong time and got dragged into Korean waters and the rest is history. Or she was in Korean waters most likely and she was fine. But it wasn't supposed to do and they were taking a risk in doing it. Gotta bring away Mark. Yeah, we are. We're at the top guys. Anyway, Jess