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And it is the 4th of November. It is the 6th year of the open Fabian Socialist and Soviet Socialist Occupation of America with the K 2014. Old Earth Calendar or Mayan Crazy Town Crazy Town Crazy Town Calendar Logistics, Logistics, Logistics Two New Military Issue Croatian Long Sleeve VDU Shirts Two of them brand new for $9.00 That's $4.50 a piece For you guys that are looking at outfitting a whole bunch of people, that's an awful cheap piece of clothing to be able to put on the shelf. They have them in medium, large, and extra large for everybody who's wondering. And that is at Sportsman's Guide, www.sportsmansguide.com. It's not the only thing that they have, but I would point out that there's something else on their markdown list right now that you might want to be interested in putting a few on the shelf of. We already have some. Three new Italian military surplus berets. Asia Blue, read that. UN Blue, UN berets. Now three of them and their size large which is a good utility size for berets. three of the UN blue berets for eight dollars you heard me right those are brand new mil spec bandcroft type i think there are a show of uh... for jetty whatever it is their time braids uh... it's the equivalent of bank card bandcroft beret u n slash u n blue three new italian military surplus praise comma a sure blue The item number is WX2-293092. Again, that's WX2-293092. Now let me point something out about berets. If you don't know, I really hate the new line, but they got them so floppy that they're hanging over somebody's ear. I am not trying to make a fashion statement and obstruct my vision with headgear. Sorry, I really... That's something that is in vogue and it's like, oh wow, that's so stylish and fashionable. We got the stinking beret hanging over our like, like we got some of the bag. Oh, it's like a, oh, it's like a, like, I don't know, the jowls of something hanging over your head or you got your head stuck up underneath the cow and the head has been castrated and there's this big baggy thing hanging there. That's what it reminds me of, I'm sorry. But traditionally the braids were typically kept tighter so that they don't obstruct vision. It would be a good idea. A little trick to that is you get the beret wet, soak it, roll it, and curl it, and then you wear it while it's wet. The beret band forms to your head. The beret will then form properly. Whoever the hell came up with this goofy idea for this hanging over the eye thing, throw that BS out the window. That's a crock of garbage from the get-go. I don't even know who thought that up. As far as these being squared away berets, they are typically pre-cast to begin with. They are steam molded at the Habadashri, wherever they are built. In this case, these are UN berets. They are size large, which means if you take a little bigger, I just told you the trick to make them fit. What you do is you get them wet. Soak them in water. Let them get wet. They are wool berets to begin with. Then form them up again. I can't do this on the air, but basically to form them properly so you get the cuff on one side and roll on the other. Also, to stretch them out. There's a tightening band made of just nothing but nylon. It's a nylon ribbon. Undo the knot on that. Then put it on, stretch it to your head. By the way, if your head is a little smaller, tighten the thing up the other way. But you'll find that it will conform. That leather will conform to your head size and that beret will become yours. It will fit you perfectly. It's a little fashion secret with beret. Yes, I know berets don't serve much of any purpose, but I would point out that they are wool. So they actually stay, keep you pretty warm. But you know, again, other headgear typically is replaced, you know, replaces the beret in the field. However, this is a UN beret. you are going to see more of the UN nonsense on American soil. They've already been doing it. So having one of those berets, well here again, three of them for $8. And by the way, there's no special drop in price or whatever. This is in the closeouts section for Sportsman's Guide. Three new Italian military surplus berets, comma, Asia Blue, item number WX2-293092. Again, that's WX2-293092. It's in the shop deals and it's in the clearance section. other lot of other items are like that just something to think you know think about their but the uh... to have the u.n. breeze on the shelf i've also got the u.n. baseball caps for the same reason and these are german or swedish issues so their standard for nato same with these brays their standard for nato slash you and Now, ours have the UN logo stitched right into them, kids. These require the UN badge or the UN applique, which is, again, not a big deal to get or make. And in fact, we've got guys that collect insignia on a massive scale. And we can access pretty much any era or year of UN paraphernalia that we want as far as the proper applique, slash the badge, beret, pin on, whatever. So again, that is at Sportsman's Guide. They do have a number of other headgear items worth looking at, but that is something three for eight dollars. That's a giveaway, kids. That's something you can put on the shelf. You got it on hand. Each person has one squared away. When you're storing a beret, you grip the cup, the flag side that normally is flat with your fingers and roll your fingers over it. Then you take the other side of the braid and you roll it up underneath itself and then put the two together. You can wrap a rubber band around that if you want and then you stuff that in your pocket and it will store indefinitely. You take it out, it's already form fitted, it's been stored formed and it will roll properly and it will be squared away. It doesn't look like you're wearing a saucer pan or something like that. You see a lot of the movies where they put these guys out there with that and it's not correct. What is depending upon the era? But pretty much everybody knows how to roll a beret. The big thing is that teardrop thing where you obstruct the vision. I'm sorry guys, it just looks goofy. Sorry, it looks goofy. Just that simple. It won't work. It's goofy in general. Yes, but I want to look like the rest of the people out there wearing the beret when they show up to play the UN policeman in America. It would be nice to confuse the issue, wouldn't it guys? Ismos is a quarrel. It's very funny. Anyway, other things, sportsmen's guides, they pointed out they've got those Croatian shirts. They do have a couple of other clearance items, and again, I would check sportsman's guide, which is go to shop deals. It's that orange thing off to the side. Even they end up with extra junk. Okay, stuff. When you do that, then tap the clearance section. Remember with Sportsman's Guide with their clearance section, you don't have the two prices. There is, by the way, another outlet for the Sportsman's Guide last of. They do have camouflage, but it's few and far between as far as how much they have. If you pay attention though, they've got a number of different clothing items in boots. They actually have some pretty good buys, but obviously they're very limited. in the boots that are available. So I would point out that yeah, you make sure you know your size. Because again, you know what few that they have in the clearance sections. I noticed this last couple of weeks, there's been some additional boots that have shown up there in the clearance section. A lot of guys have been asking about boots. Well Mark, what about, you know, footwear? Guys surplus footwear It's not like it used to be I used to be able to steer you towards a couple of companies. They were phenomenal. They had really fantastic buys But those are gone and they're just not there anymore of the companies are just haven't had the product to pick up The price has gone Goofy, you know through the roof So it's not like it used to be you'll have to catch his catch can and if you can find something like the Surplus items that show up at All these surplus points, you know like Sportsman's Guide, they've got men's Irish Setter, Gore-Tex Country Riders Chuck-A-Boots, $89. But they do have some men's guide gear, KILTI Lacer Work Boots Brown for $40 a pair, $39.99. But they only got them in two sizes, they got them in 8 and 13D. So if you got a size 13B that would be worthwhile. $40 is not bad for a pair of those boots. Now as far as the number of items that you're going to have to search through, there's a number of pages on the clearance section for Sportsman's Guide. I have not gone to Cheaper Than Dirt. You know I don't have any use for the guy since he went cowered back when they tried to grab the guns. Cheaper Than Dirt bellied over so fast it takes longer to say bellied over than it did for them to turn cowered and try to betray everybody on the gun grab. which tells me they were already giving a heads up on it. But if you see anything cheaper than dirt that actually is cheaper than dirt, let us know. It would be nice. In fact, again, check to see if they have a clearance section at all. One thing about cheaper than dirt in Sportsman's Guide though is that a lot of what they sell is called drop shipping. They actually don't keep an empty quarry. So, with cheaper than dirt, a lot of the stuff... Well, let's see if we can find it here. I'm going to look to see. You never know. I spent a long time. I'd be quite honest. I haven't gone to cheaper than dirt for anything in six months. I even bothered to look. It doesn't mean there isn't something there. It's just that again, that would be an option. And again, go to www.cheaperthan.com. I learned a long time ago, again I don't do any business with people that screw us like that. I'm pretty well finished with them once they're done. But if there's something that's cheap, cheap, cheap and it's their loss or gain, yep, grab it. Okay, they show that they have, by the way, I see this on the front page, Drager M65 gas mask. This is a retail, remember it's cheaper than dirt. New, unissued gas mask includes hard case and new NATO 40 millimeter filter. $19.95. That's $20. That's a good price. Now, whether or not they have it, if they're drop shipping from the companies that add them, then they don't have it. Just keep that in mind. They don't have it. Another thing that I see that they're listing, Greek surplus, 303 British, full metal jacket, 174 grain. mark 7 Zulu the mark 7 Z load in the spitzer 202,440 feet per second 450 rounds of British 303 on the stripper clips for 177.39 and they show that on the front page so for everybody out there looking for it should be pretty easy to find they're showing that they've got Greek stir plus ball ammo 303 on the British 303 stripper clips for your number number one mark three or your number four mark one Enfield or any of the other Brit Enfield type rifles out there guys so there is a solution and again I'm not excited about doing anything with cheaper than dirt but and I don't know if they have a mark down section or a surplus slash clearance section I'm even looking real quick just to see if there is I don't see anything jumping out on the page and so I'm not really excited about it. But again on the front page they show those two items. The draggers are a good mask. We have a lot of them. They just became hard to get. This is a little batch that came in. There's only a couple companies that brought these draggers in brand new. They're a good mask. If you're looking to match up additional masks which already have, 1997 is a good price if they're in stock. Don't know if they are. But if they are, there you go. As low as, oh wait a minute, our low price, okay there we go. The other thing that I see that they're offering, and as a matter of fact, here we go, another solution, only $3 a piece for the gas mask adapter for the 60mm NATO down to the 40mm NATO. They have them for $3. I don't know what the shipping is, it's cheaper than dirt. If it's cheaper than anybody else, I'll let you know. That seems to be a pretty good price. Most all the companies are out. I just did a sweep looking for these adapters yesterday, Monday, and some of the companies, I even told them, I said, hey, if you're moving, if you only have the one mask left, this would be a recommended solution to have those on the shelf. Some of the companies have them, others do not. other than that again cheaper than dirt another direction ago might want to fix you with a have if they have them in stock a lot of their stuff is drop shift and i know that if they are if they don't have it to drop ship now so beware with cheaper than dirt when they say well we'll back order but it may take time to get them i'm going to take from wholesale and if they're using a drop shipper the hot the drop shipper doesn't have it anymore so beware that the only i have a problem with cheaper than dirty guy i know that's happened before with people too Just because they think they can get it doesn't mean they can get it. Mark, you mentioned those KILTI boots. KILTI makes a damn good back. They make a lot of neat stuff, KILTI. Yeah, the big thing is with the company, while I'm looking again for clearance, they're the boots that they are offering were through Sportsman's Guide. And those are on sale, but they only have two sizes. They're on the clearance page. But as far as their gear goes, yes, they make a pretty good line of Cordura. The Cordura gear is basically your MOLLE gear, all Cordura gear. They make counterparts to that. There was a transition phase when the Allis gear was going over towards the Granada rigs. A bunch of other companies were vying for the government market, so they started working in Cordura. They did a good job. In fact, the backpack that I have right now, the Commando backpack that I carry, the one you were asking about earlier, My primary pack, which is Woodland Camo, is actually a prototype pack. It was the first model made that basically was trying to get into the government market with the U.S. Rangers and Special Forces, and I knew the guys that were building it for them. And so we actually picked up one of the largest. It was a choice between a medium, they said, oh, you want a medium or a large, you can have one. Well, I'll take the large, because I can always load it with less. Again, there were some features there that aren't on the production model that went to the SF group. When they built it, they had a lot of other unique features on the backpacks as far as additional ways you could attach things. The contract model had less, which I thought was rather strange, but it happens. In other words, they were able to sell the product, but the government laid down a specification that was lesser than the actual product that the company offered. Now that's been several years ago, actually two decades now because they're into several other patterns or whatever. But most all these companies still pretty well stuck with the basic engineering lines that were established back in the late 80s, early 90s. And it's a wise thing too. They haven't really cheaped out or chinsed out. They can't. The one thing about nylon gear is it's very unforgiving. Nylon or Cordura, it wears well, but when it does start to go, it goes. In other words, there's nothing you can do to fix it. I've argued that for years. I understand that limitation. In other words, having used a lot of the Alice gear, I usually carry the Type 56 gear, the Vietnam era stuff, because I could get it cheap. It was canvas. If I had to fix it, I could stitch it and it would stick together or I could patch it. If nylon starts to fray or cordura starts to fray, you can melt it, you can do all kinds of stuff with it, but it won't keep. It's going to continue to break down. That's just something you have to accept. And I pointed this out years ago that, guys, we can complain about it, but the bottom line is it's where the surplus went. So now we have to just get used to the idea that we always carry a roll of duct tape and you always carry a roll of electrical tape. and you can use pins, needles, you can use safety pins, you can duct tape the end of the stuff, but once the stuff starts to fray when it unravels, it just doesn't want to stick together. I remember it's praying, man, I was into that, all the pouch... Well, the big thing about the company is that where they gained foothold from one end was at the backpacking craze. They picked up on that and they were intelligent, they actually were in the right place and they rode the wave, but they didn't just build stuff for the heck of it, they actually fought their designs through. and that's where again a lot of the stuff bled over into military packing. I'll give you an example. Back in the early 70s, middle 70s, I was with one SF group and nobody knew anything about these propane camper, you know, camper stoves. You know, the little one pounders. But the guys went over for a re-forger and came back I'll tell you what the first time that thing came out it was an ooh and aah for everybody because man what is that? Because you had instant heat and you had a lot of it and that's something that you know we had all the other tricks alcohol stoves I mean everybody's used everything you can imagine the alcohol stove is still the most intelligent in the long run because to be quite honest everybody should probably have one of those Swiss alcohol stoves you can still get them cheap. because we're going to still be making moonshine but we're probably not going to be recanning propane, you know what I mean? Not many people... The intelligence... Go ahead. Well, I was going to say it would be okay. Example, we can refill one pound propane pigs from 25 pound or 50 pound pigs. Most people don't do that but you better start saving the cans because when that stuff gets cut off, it's cut off. And the thing is, again, we have a couple of companies that are friendly that refill our LP pigs for us. So we can pretty well do any of the older ones or the newer ones and we can even have our small ones filled up. But you need to build your own adapter for that guy so that you can use the 25 pound pigs and you can refill those one pounders. Now they won't be a full one pound when you refill them, but they'll be a hell of a lot better than sucking vapors. Otherwise, the alcohol stoves are the way to go because we can, under any circumstances, we can produce more moonshine. Yes, this is fluffy. I have an adapter that I got from Harbor Freight that will refill the one pound cans. Yes, that's what I'm talking about. And those are still available, I think. Yes, they are. Then I would highly recommend, like I said, save the one pound cans. You've got to be careful. You can't turn those back in for scrap metal. Unless you cut them in half, you know, they won't take them. You've got to show that they're compromised. If they're not compromised, they don't want to have something special go boom in the kiln. So they don't want to see them in their scrap yards. People don't want even the bigger, you know, any of the pigs unless you cut them. And if I'm going to do that, I might as well make something else out of them. You know what I mean? In other words, yeah. A one pound pig Two or three other pieces of plumbing device and a fuse and guys you've got an awfully nice house clearing tool Everybody trust me. We've already experiment with that years ago and you take a one-pound pig, think of going to the hardware and finding all the rest of the iron pipe fixtures that you need, putting your fusible system on that. Now you've got a primary cap with a fusible system with a fuel air mix compromise. What's going to happen is you get your first boom. It ruptures the propane tank. The propane tank, of course, while it's being ruptured creates an efficient fuel air mix. and then the rest of it caps off, detonates, activates burns, and it's pretty impressive. Let's put it this way, if you want to clear out the bad guys, you know, one-story house with a flashbang, this will put all flashbangs to shame. Boy, howdy. You know what I mean? And the cool thing is that pipe that you add to the end of that one-pound pig, especially the short, thick green ones, when you heat that, it works like a German potato masher. You get lots of centrifugal force, so you got lots of energy there to work with. But I also would remind you, don't hang on to it. Get rid of it. If once the fuse is lit, Mr. Explosive Device is not your friend, no matter what it is. This is pretty impressive. Really they are. So there's a solution for down the road. Go ahead. I'm just Henry. I'm filling up those one pounders. Yes, of course. You take a torch head and make sure they're completely empty. No pressure on them. Then put them in the freezer and bring your, you know, like it's warm in a house like 70 degrees and then turn it upside down and put it on or it'll almost get a pound in them. Excellent. Thank you for that, thank you for that puddle up on that. That's good. You bet. I'll jump out now. Thanks. And again, for everybody who didn't hear that, again, take the one pounders, put those in the freezer, drop the temperature on those. You're looking at a 70 degree operational temperature for the regular fill tanks, the 25 pounders. I've got several 50s. We used to get tanks for free because of the guys that fill tanks. In Michigan and around the country they changed the code guys. We were getting tanks that were like half full, three quarter full for free. Then actually our guys would fill them up the rest of the way because they're the older style tanks. I still have probably about 20 or 30 of those. 25, 35, and 50 pounders. And those can be used for load tanks. With the adapter that we're talking about here, like Fluffy's talking about, with what Henry's talking about, we have a solution. What you do is just like you do with any other fuel handling site, make a handling depot off to the side. And again, a lot of guys go through those one pound cans, and they can be refilled very easily and very economically. Rather than wasting them out. Go ahead. Yeah, yeah, you're talking usually you would use those or like cooking or warming things up correct I mean, that's what we're talking about here, right? Well, that's just it for transporting the field There's a number of things consider this medical units would be you will be using them because they're going to be sterilizing or boiling water things of that nature So especially boiling water and at least cleaning up and sterilizing field gear, you know field field tools like you know scalpels clamps, you know any of the items that need to be re-cleaned and you're not going to be able to, well they're as close to sterile as you're going to get in a field situation. And I know everybody argues, well Mark at Autoclave, well we do have autoclaves and we've actually been collecting them for years but you're never going to have enough of those around. So having that for the medical units and for, you know, again doing quick hot food, especially cold weather operations, it is the cats meow. I mean, I... Right now you can for instance, for anybody who is interested, if you go to DealXtreme you can get the little propane stoves themselves, the butterfly that go right on the top of those one pounders guys for nothing. Go to dealxtreme.com and go to their camping gear section. You'll find all kinds of, there are so many models. I mean I was surprised. It's like everything else. It's all China support made anyway. But there's all kinds of little propane stoves out there for those one pounder Kino cans It's just a matter of again personal choice. What do you want? How big? Well, I what we originally used it for we got just but cold remember it was the amphibious operation We were in fact I was an RO and it was the night the Edmund Fitzgerald went down That's the first time that I saw one of those and everybody else in unit the same thing all the guys who were the SF group that were there Everybody was soaked in the skin most of us had been in the water and it was raining nonstop. Everybody was just plain miserable. What we did was we slid into a garage that was right there on the coast. In fact, the house was occupied. They never even knew we were there. We had about 25 men stuck into this two-car garage. We had somebody spot check it. There wasn't anything in the garage. So we went inside and shut the doors. The first thing he did is he popped out two of these propane heaters. One guy had one that was from Germany. The other guy had one that he brought back from France. I'll tell you what, instant heat like that when you're bitter cold, immediately start heating up water and getting warm stuff into people just to bring up their body temperature. Half the guys, a couple of guys have been swimmers. And the weather is like what you see outside right now in Michigan. Again, it makes all the difference in the world. Anything where you can push any moisture out of the clothing, get anything, again, you surround the heater, you're building up heat. You're not going to get hot, but it's a lot better than 30 degrees. You know what I mean? Just something to think about there. You don't need to heat the whole garage. What you do is you surround, get the bodies all together, and any calories generated are being absorbed by all the bodies surrounding the heat generating device. So just something to think about there. Anyway, the whole point is that in a tent or whatever, you can actually heat the things up pretty well. The only thing to take into consideration is, well, I'd like it to be like it's at home. I don't want to make any bigger heat signature than I can afford to. And this gets back to the whole idea too of what the Indians used to say. The white man will build a fire in the woods and heat the whole forest. Whereas the red man will, again, take a blanket, create a fire just small enough to heat up the area where you're sitting, and keep yourself warm and not draw attention. They heated up rocks and put the rocks under their ground cloth, under some dirt, so they could sleep warm. Yeah, well again, that's an old trick. Yeah, the the mountain man routine. I know well the thing there is again We got to be careful because if things burn But it does work. There's a there's a number of different techniques The big thing is with the stuff that we have we can pick and choose but I would recommend that everybody invest in You don't see many of the German heat stoves like you did the ones that ran off the fuel tabs I tried to grab all those we could I have about a hundred in reserve for myself They're little flip-up rectangular German stoves. What happened is the companies started stealing the fuel from those stoves when they got them a surplus and marketed those back out to other armies. That's why you see the stoves coming through without the fuel now and they're just like a basically a cigar box that has little couple legs that fold up. You can use any heat tabs of those that you want. and those are good item but uh... they're just not as common as used to be there was a lot of those that came in their German surplus all the Swiss were the next one they're gone the like i said now you're looking at probably your best choices either the gas or the liquid fuel using the alchohol and the reason is because they're pretty well made and there's usually kids where you have a container for the alcohol you have all of the other you like to the the leg system where you flip it over in the legs hold up the uh... the burner and that it allows for a standoff so you can put your water container, your mess kit, or your canteen cup on top of that. And the idea behind this, guys, is to use a minimal amount of energy and boil the water as quick as you can. That's another thing to remember, you've only got so much fuel. If you're cooking something or you're rehydrating something or you're cooking up water for coffee or tea or whatever, cocoa, whatever you're doing, you run it until you get it to a boil and then shut it off. You've got the temperature you need. Now get the food in there or get the stuff in there and then get it into your system. Minimize the amount of burn time. You're not watching it, you know, for the sake of watching it get, you know, boil. The idea is get it to a boil. Once it's at a boil, count to one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. Congratulations, you're at temperature. Now shut it off and get to work. Yes, go ahead. When you refill those pigs and you've got your, turn your tank upside down and that way you're pushing liquid into your pigs. Very good. Exactly. That's where, again, making up a little depot where you can actually handle the stuff would be a good idea. Make a shed for it, keep it away from the house, and then distribute your reloaded tanks so that they're secure. I got my adapter from Northern Hydra about 30 years ago, and I think it was around $16, $18. I believe in that same... Very good. And for everybody out there, I would recommend making that investment. because we're going to find stuff laying around and we're going to be scavenging too. So you'll be finding, you know, it depends on how resource rich people are. Armies have a tendency to be sloppy for a bit and then they tighten up depending on the situation. But stuff like that is considered a perishable and for them they're just going to get another one. They're not going to reload or repack anything. They'll just dump them and people do. You can find them laying around all over the place. Go ahead. Mark, another, another, excuse me. Because you want to cover that, put a piece of tape over it because you don't want any dirt to get in where that little valve is. Right, and keep the threads clean, yes. The threads clean and there's a little valve down inside like a, you want to keep that clean because it'll, your burner. Yep, and again the idea behind this real simple solutions Well the caps if you can if you got them and you pull the caps whatever color they are But usually they like you said they're white so they're easily identifiable You can also grab a number of other different types of plastic caps that are being in there You might find the recycle bins Just to put something over top of that and then tape it in place and keep it that much cleaner and it's the throwaway item When the time comes if you're in the field although I don't throw anything away or leave any man-made stuff laying around because I don't want anybody to know I was there Whatever I carry it out not just because of the ecology I carry it out because I don't want anybody hunting me. You know what I mean? Yeah, first rule. Well there's a you know what I'd be willing to bet let's see if I actually they have them here You know it's one of those things that you find them as you can And we're looking for ouchaholstos alcohol alcohol Yeah, looking to see if anything shows up with cheaper than dirt here real quick. Let's see if it's that. Hey, Dad. Go ahead, Dad. What do you got? Just wanted to give you a heads up. My computer is doing something weird. I don't know if it's going to try to restart on us. It started downloading a driver without me telling it to. So we might lose Skype for a second. I'll get it right back up as fast as I can. Our friends in the chat room can give us a heads up if that takes place. We aren't going to miss it guys, but we always can use little pitching to make sure that we cover that. I'm looking right now, I've got another source here. The problem is that, especially since we're headed towards winter, people are thinking about heat again. So what happens is the stuff may have been available say even just a month ago. But now it's starting to go the other way, drying up. It's the same with cold weather gear, wet weather gear. I told you, again, buy the winter stuff during the summer, buy the summer stuff now. The ripstop uniforms and stuff are coming down in price because there's a bunch of them laying around, and ripstop isn't a big thing in the winter. But for the desert areas, ripstop's good all year round, and you're going to wear layers anyway. So that's not a problem. I'm just looking to see if I can find us a company. One of my wholesalers actually has had in fact they are Swiss by the way it is a Swiss company They have or have been carrying these for quite some time And I'm just trying to see if we can find a good price on these and again That is that's the problem is if there is a good price. They've been clearing them out like the gas masks, so Now let's see if we can find This has got my curiosity up only because it's one of those items you know there's too many things going on I'm trying to get stuff done But in the camping or safety items, you never know. Sometimes this stuff comes through in a glut and will get a good price. And if I see it, again, I'd recommend grab it while you can. By the way. Hey Mark, while you're looking, I just want to say, if we run out of, you know, when all this light's off, you know, we're not going to be able to get propane. So one of the things you can do, is go to a truck stop because there's about a million trucks in that road right now that actually operate on natural gas and they've got to refuel that. So loves truck stops and a lot of T8 truck stops now have natural gas refueling stations and I can guarantee it that that will not be cut off. So I mean, you know, if there's any way you can go from that fueling nozzle to the tank That's one solution. Getting from that nozzle to that tank is the $69,000 problem. Again, one of the things there too is if we put the adapters together, you may have to be deceptive. But remember guys, don't be too blatant about it, but hook up an adapter system so it looks like you're fueling a piece of equipment. It's that simple. Just pull up in a pickup like you got natural gas. And just to kill the tank, you know, and then they think you're killing your truck. Exactly. All you have to do is just go to the cashier, you pay the cashier first. Go right to the pump, tell me you want pump number two and do your thing. But again, you got to go from that nozzle to the tank and that's a separate fitting and it shouldn't be that big of a problem. But the point is that will not be cut off. So there's a supply right there. Yep. The, uh, while I was looking here, the Swiss M71 stoves, which are the alcohol, simple alcohol can stove. And by the way, one of our friends is probably listening. There are some really neat little designs. You can do a homemade alcohol stove from a standard aluminum pop can. In fact, it's one of the niftiest little designs. I can't show it to you on the microphone here. So again, you might want to look around, but check out YouTube, because there's a lot of hobo solutions that people have come up with that really work. The M71 stove is available. I'm going to call them. I'm going to see what their quantity is on this right now. The more sophisticated ones that were made back in the 60s and 70s pretty well have dried up, but it doesn't mean they aren't out there. I just have to check with one of the other companies. The M71 is basically a tuna can, a little more in the tuna can size, more like a sea ration can size heater system. The only thing about that is a lot of you guys are using the bigger mess kits or the larger Euro mess kits and we need the larger platform for that. So it works but you got to keep an eye you can't just walk away and leave stuff because something gets bumped you lose the water you lose the food you don't you can't afford that. You don't want to see stuff messed up so we've got to pay attention if you're using it. The other thing are the air sat stoves the German ones But again, every one of them I've talked to, the stuff coming over from Europe now, the fuel has been stolen. They've got the stoves, but they don't have the, you know, again, the used to come with a tray full of the tabs. They're rectangular and they fit right on the stove. If you've got those guys, they're a few and far between. The stoves are available but not the fuel tabs. So you've got to go to either US tabs or whatever else might show up in the surplus market. suggestion. You can still find the little folder and those will work with just an empty can filled with alcohol. I've used the stuff you can buy at the automotive stores. Call from your tool system and it's plenty hot enough to heat water with. Yeah. But the little fold ups, I've got several of them. I've found it like Yeah, yard sales and resale shops, yes. The big thing here is any kind of heat to generate and have the stuff on the shelf because the fuel is going to be the issue. That's what we keep talking about. I'm looking at one right now. Guys, we got these for about $50 a piece. They're now going for about $300 a unit. They're Swiss. They're completely self-contained. They run off any fuel. They are in any fuel system. Whatever you got that burns, it goes in. and they were a cool idea. Most of the armies had these at one time or another. US military hasn't had them for quite some time. Swiss still use them and have them out there in force. So again, let's see, what are these things approved? Probably equivalent to a 100 watt light bulb in terms of illumination. It's basically a Coleman lantern, but a Coleman lantern that runs off anything. Just something to think about there. That's another solution where whatever you got that's available, you throw it in. Alcohol, any of the other different liquid fuels purely a matter of what will work for you, what you can make work. And if you've got the system in place, it has all the schedules for what fuels, how to mix them, how to use them, whatever. But that's again for both heat and illumination. Remember all of these gas lighting systems create heat. That's really one of the other factors for illumination during the summer. They work, but they're producing heat and during the summer you don't want so much of that. That's where, again, alternates come in, but during the winter months, the combination of light and heat, that's a good thing. We like that. MSR backpacking stove. You use an aluminum bottle and you pump up the little bottle and I believe they're metal fuel. Here we go. Aragasis Northwoods Company and they cater to people in the boundary waters. And I believe the prices vary. The MSR is on the top of a propyl butane bottle, 3.8 ounces. Very good. That's stuff in it, put it in the limit when it comes to a boil. And if you've got a jacket or something, you can cover your pot with your jacket, help hold the heat in. Excellent. Very good. Again, for everybody out there, see there's a number of different solutions. The big thing is we commit to the system. We need to commit to the fuel storage to go along with it. Again, come up with solutions to be able to also disperse the material. That's one of the other things is don't put it all in your eggs in one basket, guys. Distribution of the equipment, caching is part of just like ammunition storage. Fuel storage should be the same way. and whatever we're going to do, well, that's the cool thing about PVC. You can take these containers, figure out what size is closest to whatever PVC tube you got. Put a cap on one end, leave the other cap loose on the other, load your cans or your containers up into and stack them just like you would bullets in a tubular magazine on a Winchester and they're sealed from the elements, they're protected from damage and they can be put in the ground or stuck in a location just standing as is. You don't have to do anything else with them. It's a simple process of providing that much more protection. PVC pipe is so stinking cheap there's no reason not to do that. The fixtures are more expensive, but I watch construction sites and I've gotten so many hundreds and thousands of additional fixtures, caps, elbows, keys, you name it, that I don't have to buy anything in PVC. And then you get random pieces anywhere from 2 feet, 1 feet, 6 inches, to 10, even 15 feet long, depending on what kind of site it is and what they're doing. If somebody screwed up or if they're just frivolous about what they bought and the extra gets thrown away. So there's no reason not to be able to find what you need out there. And again, cacheying to keep the stuff secure is most critical. Whenever we can double or triple wall protect what we're storing, we're better off in general, no matter what it is. The idea is to keep the elements away. Whatever it is that's out there, the air is bad, the water is bad for whatever we're storing. Oxidation is what we're trying to avoid. So minimizing contact maximizes durability and time and service. I was looking to see guys and you know what, they sold out of all of the stoves but two. I'm looking at the sold out category right now. I get to a certain point and it's like gone gone gone gone gone gone. That's a couple of the wholesalers but that doesn't mean they won't replace something should be coming in. Somebody asked me about the US tent heater systems. Guys, it depends on, again, what era, when they were built. There are multi-fuel that are out there. There are also gasoline drip heater systems. You've got to be cautious with that. You're supposed to have a fire watch in place for that reason. Another thing that's really nice for the larger tents, if you can run into them, and they are out there right now, there seems to be a wave of them two years ago, so they're still out there in the surplus stores, the better ones, the older style ones. And that's the wood burning, coal burning, transportable pot belly stoves, the little ones. If you were in the military back in the 60s, 70s, 80s and even into the 90s, the old wood burning stoves were there on the range. They used the GP tents for range use. If you're out there in the cold weather, somebody was stoking the fire and everybody was hanging around with a little pot belly stove that was right there, two or three of them sometimes in a medium or a large. They still work, they're serviceable enough. The cool thing is they disassemble and they fold into themselves so to speak. They stack and they're very efficient for travel, which is another reason to invest in them. If you see them when they're used, fantastic. We might recall we bought a bunch of these several years ago that were Swiss and also Swedish. They were the collapsible tent wood-burning stoves. that were built for quick transport. They've got their own wicker basket. They do that, of course, in the north a lot. Everything folds up, goes into the box or the carrier or the basket, and down the road you go. It goes in the truck with everything else. You stop. That's one of the things that's part of the setup for the tents. But you can use that just as quick for a cabin or any other improvised housing in the field that you decide to work with. Don't forget the hobo stoves too guys. The five gallon steel pail laid on its side. A little bit of work, a few little modifications. And you've got yourself a pretty decent little wood burner out there in the middle of nowhere to keep the fire where it needs to be and not burning down the house as they say or burning down the tent. We're at the top and let's see we got Joe from the Carolinas coming up next we're still growing food in fact all my stuff is in the Sun room now I did all the dead trim cleaned everything up I'm getting ready to run it through the winter and see how much I can keep alive God bless the Republic The New World Order we shall prevail ladies and gentlemen the Empire's on a run we're in a mark We'll be back 8 o'clock, Don, probably on a mission so he won't be with us, but we'll be back 8 o'clock. 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Always wonder what's going on underneath your mulch layer. That is the tip of the day. Well, greetings everyone. This is Joe from the Carolinas. Welcome back to Grow Your Own, the budding revolution, an interactive, solution-focused, and educational gardening program. For those of you all out there interested in growing your own food, self-reliance, as well as permaculture. Now, permaculture stands for permanent agriculture, as many of our regular listeners know. It's a process of functional design, functional, workable design. for a piece of property where over time you can provide for your own basic needs. In permaculture we study general principles that occur in nature and we figure out ways that we can use those principles to benefit our food growing as well as our human and animal support systems. Now these general sorts of principles, they include examining patterns in nature the various different types of climates in the world. We look at the effects of trees on our local growing environment and rainfall. And we also study the different aspects of soils. Soils are the growing medium for our food crops. and so much more. But through using the natural composting process, we can actually boost the nutrient value of the food that we're interested in growing. Now, the benefit of studying general principles for a permanent approach to taking care of ourselves is that you end up developing a really solid core foundation. Once you develop this really solid foundation of knowledge, you can then sort of branch out and get into techniques and strategies of growing food. But it's important to start with the basics. This way you can take your permaculture experience or your food growing, homesteading experience, and you can put that into practice in a really productive way anywhere in the world, even if you're moving across the