October 29, 2014
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59m
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2014
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Mark Koernke discussed preparedness, weapons systems, and field operations during the second hour of the afternoon Intelligence Report on October 29, 2014. The show covered affordable handgun options including the Star Model B pistol, historical military weapons pricing in Canada, and crew-served weapons like the M60 and .50 caliber systems. Koernke provided detailed tactical instruction on squad movement techniques, load-carrying methods, and the use of lightweight all-terrain vehicles including mechanical mules and COOT vehicles for cargo transport and combat support. The episode concluded with announcement of a special co-broadcast with the Micro Effect program.
- preparedness
- handguns
- star model b pistol
- crew-served weapons
- m60
- 50 caliber
- tactical movement
- squad operations
- mechanical mule
- coot atv
- cargo transport
- michigan militia
- airborne equipment
- ammunition
- field operations
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A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money is spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. And keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children and people, your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children? to live in fear and be a slave. O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave is to still the land of the free I cried because I had no magazines and then I met a man who had no ammo Which would be worse and which would be easier remedy. Well, that's a toss of the coin, isn't it? Well, good afternoon ladies and gentlemen. This is the second hour of the afternoon intelligence report. I'm our corny one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines and occupied territories West Southwest East and Well, ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to us on liberty three radio decorate a comedy of the talk radio dot com running with a micro station cv base stations and alternate technologies east and west of the mississippi along with alaska homework number from the company do the bottom of florida from above or because they are going all the next week at mississippi arkansas texas oklahoma big chunk of rascal but you wyoming to include both third pit fifth and our friends the thirteen sisters on the left side of that state colorado recall state boulder and denver your problems that clean them out Waving the left coast where they have the great state of Jefferson many other friends up and down the coastline They returned back to the east we crossed plains over the Mississippi landers cruise grammar teams ok teams in the model grammar consortium bring us the Golden Spike and It is a beautiful Fall day guys. We've had mixed weather broken cloud cover right now. We got some cumulant embers to the south Look like it wanted to rain a little more. It's sprits, but it did not rain and that's typical fall oh my goodness if you're out patrolling weather it's enough to get you soaked or get keep you damp and cool so you better make sure you take your wet gear with you along with your cold weather gear always especially this time of year anyway it is wednesday 29th of october to the sixth year of open faveian the socialist and soviet socialist occupation of america with a k two thousand and fourteen old earth calendar or Mayan. Crazy town. Crazy town. Calendar going to Mayan. Crazy town. Yeah, that's right. Can you imagine a train run by the Mayans? Yeah, back in the day, yeah, they'd be this little like the right behind the coal car There'd be like a little pyramid thing and instead of an observation booth out the back of the train There'd be like one up front towards the pyramid and everybody could stand there and they could suck on their you know, coco and you know, you know corn cob chew on me, you know, I've got a quorum, you know chunk of corn and Meanwhile, the little micro high priest would be up there and they grabbed somebody and drag him up wheeling and everything and rip their heart out and there would be blood splattering on the windscreen of the observation car and everybody goes ooooo and they take the heart and burn it and bring it down, you know, char it and bring it down and you know who's the poorest people here? They go to coach and they, you know, offer them some chunk of sacrifice heart. and they could have all the free body parts they wanted to barbecue and the chef would be ready to chop, slice and dice. Boy, a Mayan commuter train would be, well actually a long-range train would be just fascinating, wouldn't it? And you just picture that little pyramid chugging on down. Of course, the one that'd be flicking the feathers and that'd be the old puffer belly type, you know, pre-diesel. It'd be kind of cool, wouldn't it? sacrifice to the sundog! Give me some more of that cocaine to up my oversized big snares. The bigger the snares, the more dope they could g- they could cope. That's why they love those big noses! Just like over there in the Middle East, you know, air is free. Anyway, it is, of course, weapons Wednesday. Dun dun dun dun dun. Yeah, well, Predator, yeah, actually there are a lot of things even just a regular soldier would have done a lot differently when being chased by something like the Predator. Everybody always does that. Man, I wouldn't have done that. I'd have done fill in the blank. Well, and one of the things is carrying, we were talking about auxiliary weapons. The basic rule is right off the bat, guys, a hand cannon that's reasonably priced. Now, for the longest time, you could find hand cannons coming out of the surplus industry for under $100. The Makarovs, the Tokarovs, were the US dollar and you know what's strong? $69 was the benchmark price for the longest time and $79 would get you a Makarov, a PA-63, a Tokarev pistol from one country or another and they start to creep towards $100 and that was still reasonable. Okay? Think about it. Well, it demonstrates the devaluation of the currency. It has nothing to do with availability. There are buckets of those guns still out there. is the fact that if you go like to aim surplus or any of these companies that are bringing the latest wave of stuff in about two hundred to two hundred and sixty five dollars is the asking price on the retail and i don't know anything it's about two hundred dollars but two fifty will get you uh... from analyst do it this way will go to if they still have them and i don't know if they do so let's find out for sure here w w w dot JG sales.com I didn't call them today. I was going to I wanted to confirm what they had the way of inventory Now they have a certain pistol there 9 millimeter. Oh mark 9 millimeters. Not the greatest well No, it's not super perfect. But you know, we've got a lot of nines and a lot of 40 cows and a lot of 45s out there Okay, and they have the star It is the super model B The original stars run $300 the star model super beat post-war 9 millimeter pistols $250 apiece. What does it look like looks like a 1911? It's a 9 millimeter. Okay Doesn't have a grip safety. We've got pie. Just like one Go ahead fluffy repeat. I said it looks just like one and handles just like one and it mostly takes down like one Yep, exactly. So when you're looking at a weapon that's pretty based for a full-frame pistol that actually uh... again if you got nineteen eleven in service this is another option for someone who can't quite afford the three dollar mark and still by you know amelan mags there are uh... post-war mags and and aftermarket mags available for the super b the model super b okay which is a star pistol The weapon itself, the 1911 Holsters, 1911 Mag Pouches, although the Universal Mag Pouches out there pretty well afford you to grab whatever you want now. You can either put a couple of straight line mags in the pouch or you can put a double stack mag in most of them. They're variable in geometry so they can take whatever length. The big thing is that they have this particular pistol in stock. They do have the CanX for about $300. So again, another $50 if you're really, really like people saying, oh, I'm poor and I, well, I'm trying to find solutions. Now, the other option is a high point and I don't have any problem with the high points, but some people are like, oh, I've heard things. Okay, well, what about the Model Star B? What have you heard about that? Well, it's a 1911 type action. Ain't nothing really fancy about it, but you know, to write home about it, it's a cool gun. So, there you go. For those of you who are saying, oh, I would just want to own a high point. Well, this is one of the other solutions. I would remind everybody that, and again, this is JGSales.com, JGSales.com. They have it right on their front page. I don't know if they have spare mags right now in stock. They have them and they haven't. So, you're going to have to double check to find out for sure. But, go ahead, Fluffy. I wouldn't be a foot and feel the least bit poorly armed with a 9mm Star Model B mechanic. Oh no, no, not at all. I think I'd want to get something a little bit more highfalutin' if I could only afford a high point when I could, but I'd kill them all day long with it. Oh yeah, exactly. In other words, and again, forgive me, there were several handguns I was looking at last week. It's like, oh, somebody's posting another high point. It wasn't a high point, it was a stier. There are several of these newest weapons that are out there, and we go, oh, the high point's ugly! Well, and I hope I hear them telling me all about how these latest stiers and a couple of these other off-the-wall Euro pistols are looking just like a high point, guys. Yeah. I mean, literally. with your old HKs so very much like that? If you look at the 63 through 65 there's about four weapons that HK came out with and all of them were clunky and lunky and massive slides. Now one of them was a machine pistol. It had the option for you know semi, tri-burst and full-auto if you plug the stock on it. It actually came with a study of how to stock. Also it was boasted I believe there were only total of nine parts that made up the pistol. Everything was heavily machined. The slide was heavily machined to make up for a lot of the function. They were workable guns. To me, the HK9s were big for back in the day because if you compare it to the Walter P-38, made by the Germans, and or the stars we're talking about here, The HK's really did look very modern-esque, but they were also kind of bulky for being just a 9mm and being only a straight inline magazine. Which was the other thing. It didn't bother me, they worked. I know guys who bought them. Of course, now all those stinking pistols that were made back then are pre-68. Some of those got into the country. We had a lot of guys around Ann Arbor, Michigan who had those. They're actually sitting quite comfortably because they've sold them over the years and they sold them for thousands of dollars per gun because those HKs are pre-banned, pre-68 imports and there are only so many they brought in and they cut them off right away. Now Canada could still get them when we couldn't up until the Communists finally had their way up in Canada in the later 70s. But up until, you know, like from 67 through what, 77, the Canadians were still, you know, could buy machine guns over the counter, anti-tank guns, anti-pistol or handgun from the world. And they had no crime wave. It was just the Communists were all flustered because the Canadians were now being better armed than the Americans were. At the time, those HK pistols were going for about I think it was like $380 Canadian back during the early 70s. Typical HK, the ones we're talking about. And they could buy machine pistols up there. They had stinkens, stinking machine pistols from the eastern block that the Canadians could get because they were somewhat neutral. Another thing, Sten guns. You could buy a Sten gun. They were stacked like cordwood. They literally would take the stock off and they would use a cordage to wrap the stock to the complete gun. And it was $11 per submachine gun and magazines were a quarter if they were used or 50 cents if they were new. Ammunition by the buckets, by the crates. and the Sten guns were stacked over in the gun shops there, I saw them, literally like wood, like you would stack wood. What model do you want? They had them all sitting there and they were up against the wall. They had like a yoke to hold them all in place and they could buy, you could buy any submachine gun you wanted for $11 and wow, did you hear about a big crime wave with submachine guns in Canada? Yeah, it was, yeah. yeah massive shooting don't you know by the way uh... at that time you could buy it this is the thing you could buy a boys now they still went up in price by the by the coming of the seventies they were a little more expensive but not much uh... boys fifty five uh... caliber bolt gun was about seventy five dollars american plus or minus depending on when you know mostly plus you know what after sixty eight I understand those had a wicked recoil. Oh yeah, but then they had a latte and a sloth from 20mm semi-auto guns for $125. So it's like, well, you can buy the bolt gun for $75 or you can buy the semi-auto for $125 and get a big old beast 20mm. Amuletions for the Lotties were $1 around for white phosphorous anti-tank. spotter and white phosphorus tracer anti-tank and Solid shot standard AP was a dollar around Eventually the white phosphorus went up to a dollar fifty. That's what everybody was paying for it. Oh, man Yeah, all day boom boom and by the way It was the biggest short 20 shoulder fired 20 millimeter round made and for the longest time it was the largest 20 millimeter round available until a couple other new euro rounds came out and If you take a look at the dimensions of the Slothrum and the Latis were built side by side in terms of period. The Slothrum was good but the Lati was better and the Latis were the same price. The Slothrum and Kenner ran about $175. However, remember with either gun, you got a transport crate that had the skis, the repair kits, spare parts kits, extra mags. Well, you bought the gun for 125. You bought it ready to fight. Sweet. Yeah. And there's lots of those here in Michigan. Lots and lots and lots of them. Yeah. We should have done it. Oh, I'm sure New York's the same way, by the way. Probably. In Pennsylvania. Ohio, you had to paddle across, you know what I mean? Because they're across Lake Erie. But everybody else, like I said guys, we got a picture, I'll show you a really cool picture of the Tuna Mobile, head nose with the Tuna Mobile is. It's a Mark II Bren gun carrier, the nose gun, well actually forgive me, the nose gun was a 55 boys. and the top bracket gun was a 20mm Lottie. But every once in a while we put two 20mm Lotties on the Tuna Mobile, on the Bren gun. In place of a Bren gun. And actually the British used those weapons, the Bren gun carrier, the Mark II's, Mark III's, Mark IV's. They actually modified them and carried heavier weapons. They didn't just carry the Bren gun, you know, squad automatic weapon. They carried the Vickers gun, they carried the boys, they carried, in fact they always carried the boys on the Bren gun anyway. What we did is, what our sergeant did, our armorer, is he made a couple of machine shot brackets and put a bar on the overhead right behind the main gunner station that was the proper dimension so that the locking clamps would lock onto that bar and it would allow for the gun to be sitting a little higher. But, it would still, with the length of the barrel, would be sitting beyond the lower gunner so he didn't have to take the blast. It's kind of cool. Take a look at a picture of a Lottie to understand how big it is. Oh, it's a monster. Yeah, that lower gunner would certainly be appreciative of that. Something shorter. Everybody okay when you see these movies where these guys are wailing away next to somebody's head? Well, I hate to tell you. Even with blanks, that's horrible. But you know when you're way out of the way and somebody's thudding with something like that You know it doesn't take long for the literally the fillings to rattle out of your teeth like howdy seriously But so it's all those are one of the many things you have taken to consideration even with the 50s And I would point this out for the guys that went out west Shlepping around a 20 pound or 25 pound rifle or a 27 pound rifle guys You've got more of a workout than you expect when you're going cross country for a lot of people. I would point out that one of the things I tried to explain is using a team system. Here's a little trick. You make a set of carry yolks. How do you build them? You can take a piece of decent green line. Take two pieces of dowel. Wrap your green line to make a stirrup for either side. You want two ropes though, you want two ropes and preferably you want a bridge to support them. You can use canvas to make the bridge. But what you do is you wrap the one around the front, one around the back where the stock is, and two men carry the weapon. And that way it's still up off the ground, but you can travel a lot faster and you get used to working as a team. Even though it doesn't seem that heavy, the M60 is, you know, again, the hog. Even in this lightened version. And everybody goes, well man, I could handle that. Yeah, that's true. But whenever you can take a crew-served weapon and move it faster, it's less likely you're going to get caught in the lurch. And by the way, you're also saving calories. Because when you're in the field, remember guys, it's a workout that's life or death. I know the adrenaline rush will get you moving, but there's those times when it'd be nice to have a little extra calorie in reserve and also not to be tired out before you get there. Well, I had it. Yeah, especially if you're not in contact. See, that's the thing about these heavy weapons is that or the crew-serve weapons. The M60 was designed, even though it became the squad gun for the Vietnam era, it still was a crew-serve weapon. And in fact, in all of its configurations, from tripod mount or bipod mount, guys, they're supposed to be buddies helping you out, because you can't carry enough ammo when you're carrying the thing. and the whole team is supposed to support you. I would point out that that also needs to be what we need to be prepared for with what's coming up. If you're going to be fielding any .50 cals, all of you need to be carrying .50 caliber ammunition for those weapons, whatever it is you're putting into the field. You don't carry a .50 caliber can of ammo. I want you to try that once. Doesn't mean you won't carry cans in. One of our friends listening did this years ago. And we got it on film. Now we had a complete, like a tack lane, a series of tack lanes set up and it was actually a circle that was about two miles. And in the process of this we went through, let me explain, step one is teaching everybody how to move. So in a 100 yard distance we had everybody practicing up to the count of three and down, up to the count of three and down. When we got to the end of that leg with that squad, we then turned them to the right. The next course is two-man team bounding overwatch. In the next 100 yards, two men times 10 men to a squad, each man would pair off with another and move out, I got you covered. Cover me, I'm moving out. Move out, I got you covered. We practiced leapfrog using the first technique combined with a team effort. When we would get the team to the end of the next 100 yards, which would be of course, you know, perpendicular to the original 100 yards. Now, by the way, we're doing this in farm fields, guys. We then turn to the left and in the next 100 yards, we divide the two groups, two fire teams into fire teams, and now we practice bounding, you know, Overwatch with two fire teams instead of two individuals. They've all had a chance to repeat practice each process over and over again. I then turn them to the left The next hundred yards a squad will practice moving as a squad using two fire teams Move out. I got you covered cover me and moving out moving out and they move forward Okay, and then when they're at the end of that then we turn and then they go through a cross-country, you know, you know patrol operation in column and then using again the V-techniques etcetera the whole nine yards. Well one of our friends had decided he was going to carry a full combat load to include a .30 caliber can of .308 ammunition which is not a bad idea but he put it in his pack. Now guys, it's not a good idea. Well in addition to all the other combat weight and by the time we got to the end and there's this one shot, this one image and I got it on film. where I had four platoons of militia, each one with about 40 men, moving across an area about a mile and a half, coming out of a wood line and another cornfield slash wood line. And it just was neat, it could be the weather was perfect, it was dynamic, it was kind of partially clouded, and these guys come out, well, they're moving, they're hard charging, they're moving, it's supposed to be a fast motion. Unfortunately, our friend who might be listening right now, he had drank enough water. He had carried that 80-pound-plus ruck because he had his combat load on board, so it was probably a little more like closer to 100 pounds. The whole way through all the process doing everything, but in this last mad dash, it was like the scene from Platoon. He got to the point where he got to the demarcation line. He completed everything. and then he threw his arms up in the air and he flopped forward and that's where he stayed to rest for a minute. And again, he's a hard charger, he's a good man, and he was younger then, but guys, it still comes down to, it's not like you said, you can only go so far with so much weight and so fast. No matter how hard we think we want to move, even as a young person, there are limits. to what we're going to be able to do. And we need to be thinking ahead to prevent that kind of situation from developing because we not only have to be able to move that cargo and move those weapons, but we have to get to the other end and be able to fight. Now to have the energy to do so right we're not as young as we used to be so we need to cheat and there's not really cheating It's that as you get older you get wiser So I'm gonna point out again guys. That's the end of the summer mark I hate to break your train of thought here real quick, but Craig just texted me and told me he's not gonna be up alive tonight And before I schedule anything in for rebroadcast, I was wondering if you could confirm the time for me for Joe McNeil and Jeff Bennett's special program that's at 7, isn't it, Eastern? That is at 7 o'clock, as a matter of fact, yes. So probably what we'll do is we'll just tune in there and expand their bandwidth over on Liberty Tree Radio for their special program. It's supposed to be 7 o'clock our time, so in fact, oh, well, hell, we're only half an hour away. I was sad. Well, you might be able to still call him and confirm. Double check. I'll see if I can get ahold of him. I was just checking with you and letting you know what we were going to do. Okay, that's very good. Again, 208-935-0094. Use the call-in line and see if you can get through to him. I've got the number. Okay. All set? Very good. Okay, I'm sure Ed's trying right now. It should be good, though. I believe. Thank you for reminding me. We did a special program event tonight with the micro effect. It should be 7 o'clock right after the end of the Intel report. So for everybody out there listening, we will be carrying at least that hour if it lasts longer. Of course, we're doing the 8 o'clock Intel report. We can make a personal decision. Might even be able to double broadcast and pull it up for the 8 o'clock hour too, so if we can work it out so we're all working together, we'll see what happens. As it stands, the important thing here, golf carts, golf caddies. Everybody's getting rid of them. It's the end of the summer, people are selling toys or they're throwing them out, lots for people. Throwing them out, you get them for free. I've got four of them. Two of them are the folder type guys, like an airborne package. They'll fold right up on themselves and they take up very little space. Now, one of the things you need to do is make them so that they are more cargo friendly. Remember that round base won't be very conducive to a lot of what you're doing. So you need to change it out to a square base, a little bigger than a 30 caliber or 50, probably about 50 caliber ammo can size, maybe bigger. And then add a couple of cargo straps and cross bars. Now I'd point out, don't drill the aluminum bars. Don't drill the areas where you're going to add the cross supports. There's plenty of clamping systems. Go to the electrical division of any of your warehouse hardware stores. They've got tons of solutions. Measure the pipe that was used to make your caddy. Go there, check it out, and find systems that are clamp type. Usually they're dual clamp. They can be used for a number of other purposes. But the idea behind this is that you take your cross-strapped bars you're going to need and apply those every so many inches, 6 inches, 8 inches to the upper bracket that holds the upper part of the golf bag. What you can do if you need additional support, use nylon strapping. You can buy nylon strapping typically at any hardware in 1.5 inch, 3.25 inch, 1 inch, 1.5 inch, and 2 inch. Personally, it's a wallet issue or maybe if you're lucky like I watch for the cargo strapping that they have been using for lumber companies for bundles of two by six Guys, they're using this heavy gauge cargo nylon strapping now the orange stuff I use for the trucks for moving things There's orange, but there's also typically desert tan. Yeah, why cuz there's lots of desert junk out there and You know lots of pla lots of the polymer color left And then on occasion gray or even OD green. Now I've got probably, oh I would say 100 yards OD green strapping I got for free. Where did I get it? From there. Is it regular nylon strapping mark like you buy in the hardware? Yes. They had lots of it. Apparently they got a deal on it. Whatever lumber company is doing it, they must, you know, like the, they prefer it because it probably works better and it's not cheapy. And it's got to handle tonnage. It's having to secure a lot of weight. Now, they don't use the regular bucklers. They have a temporary piece, or actually what is a bent piece of 8-inch steel stock wire that they bend to create the bucklers. And then they crimp them when they're locking the stuff in place. Usually when the guys undo the bundles of wood, they'll cut in an odd spot. So you won't get a uniform piece of strapping, but again, for the kind of work we're talking about here, If you accumulate the freebies and bring them all together, you're not out any money. So you save dollars with the trapping that way. Okay? A suggestion. Go ahead. I read, well it was last year, I found in front of the house, there's some nice squirts that you can buy and they fold up. And this one even had about eight or ten inch wheels on it. So they are out there. I think I may have seen the like at Harbor Flate, but They are available to buy, but you can sometimes find them at thrift stores and even throw it away like I did. But they're already pretty capacious and they already fold up. Well, for everybody who doesn't understand, the Marine Corps and the Army have both produced these in force. A lot of people have been looking at the Pacific Theater of World War II, the later part of the war. Take a look at the images of Iwo Jima. and Okinawa especially during the landings. You will notice if you're paying attention that there are some small wheeled carts. They actually were a large inner tube like a cross country tire. They knew they were going to hit sand and these were cargo carts guys. They were using a canvas basket. and they were designed purely to help to support the troops to get their ammunition, their cans of ammo, their mortar rounds, medical supplies off the beach and inland with them. That's an army application, a marine application, but also the army application. Look up airborne support technology or airborne support equipment. World War II and even after World War II. a number of different pieces of equipment everything from little go-karts to little motor scooters that were all collapsible and fold up and in addition to that they had these trailers that were not just trailers they were like big tired wheelbarrows but they could be pulled you could either hook them up to that little motorbike or hook them up to that little you know hook them up to a little airborne jeep and drag them behind or there were hand holds and you could drag them along with a couple of men So this is not a new idea, but we're looking at is stuff that's off the shelf, already built, you're not out anything. Here's another thing, you use it until you lose it. It's war, kids. You run it until you can't run it no more, or if you can't take it with you, leave it behind, stash it somewhere or dump it, whatever you gotta do. You don't risk your life over it. You use it until you lose it. Sadly enough, it happens in war. So you gotta be prepared for it. Again, if it worked, it's paid for itself. I'm sorry, Fluffy, go ahead. I was saying things break or they get broken. Right. Full spindle and mutilated if nothing else. The big thing is that again, it just, you may be in the wrong place because this is a great way to create forward support. Now, one of the things is the way they made the Marine and the Army versions is that you literally could put a person in there and drag them to the rear. One of my barbers years ago, he retired and went to Florida back in the early 90s. He was a medic in World War II and he said the best tool that he used for moving troops off the battlefield when they were under fire was a wheelbarrow. They never carried the wheelbarrows with them. What they did is whenever they went into an operational area, the first thing they do is look around for wheelbarrows. And that was the best tool for going out, running out real quick under fire, grabbing a guy and taking him to the rear. And he goes, if one man could do that, that means that two men, rather than a stretcher team, two men could move two men. See how that works? That means it's more likely they can defame more men. I would love to have one of those little motorized mules, I think to call them. The mules are still available. We had a clutch of them here and I was going to check to see how many of the guys had left. In Ypsilanti, Michigan, in the Ypsilanti, Michigan area which is just east of Ann Arbor, Michigan, we have a gentleman who had about 30 of them left. We bought a number from him. One of our militia units bought, I think, a total of 19 from him. and they are the mechanical mules if anybody wonders what that is you can look it up on YouTube if you ever go to Knob Creek a lot of the guys still show up with the mules they were a skeleton airborne vehicle they were used for cargo and they could carry a ridiculous amount of cargo if you know how to cargo strap stuff guys it looked like they just shouldn't work Seriously look like a cartoon a comical cartoon piece look like these Chinese, you know fluffy and everybody out there guys You might have seen this they're showing you pictures of people like in Eastern Europe or in Asia where they're taking like a Fiat sized car and they're hauling a semi-trucks load worth of beer or stuff like that. I love those Toyota trucks I love that are great. Yeah, you see the truck That's how the mules could be loaded guys and they could handle the weight. They were a very well engineered piece of equipment and They actually had down at Nob Creek a moose. There was the mule and then the next step up that they were going to build in quantity was called the moose. And a gentleman brought one down and had it at Nob Creek to look at. It was just a mechanical mule on steroids. Again, an intelligent tubular frame design. It was set up so with a driver station. Driver had one, there was one person in the cab area up front. It was an articulated body so that it could go cross country and take whatever it came into. In some ways it also incorporated the gamma goat design in terms of the way that the frame was articulated where there was the driver station. It's a very interesting piece and it worked. We had also picked up a number of what they call the coots up here. The coot was a two tub, basically a Jeep version of the Gamma Goat. It was originally proposed to be used in place of the Jeep as part of the Gamma Goat family. They built it, they tested it, they did not adopt it in large numbers or in any quantity, but it's easy to spot because it uses standard Jeep tires and wheel rims. Otherwise, the thing could float. It carried two people up front. It could carry cargo. The engine, which was a large iron block, Briggs engine, ran the thing. And it was originally proposed as an airborne type vehicle like the mechanical mule. We used it. Worked really well. We have a number of them in the militia units. In fact, we started to find them where people had bought them back in the 70s. and they started to show up here and there. Now unfortunately, where we used to buy them for a few hundred dollars a piece, people want like six, seven thousand dollars for them. So they're a little pricey. But to be quite honest, now looking at the design, we could easily build it. The big thing is that it incorporated conventional military axle and components, with critical components where possible. The power plant, the Briggs issue, the argument is they probably would have gone to another contract, small engine. It would not have been a full Jeep size motor. That wasn't the proposal. The idea was to lighten it up for airborne use. But it was a very, very simple design and pretty reliable. Again, we've got a quantity of those. They don't show up in too many places, but it's called a coot. If you can find a picture of it, I haven't even bothered to try and look on YouTube, or YouTube somebody might even have a picture of one. Hey, Dad. You can pull a trailer with them, too. Yes. Oh, yeah. They can pull a trailer. The interesting thing is you can pull cross-country. If you want to pull off the road, you just turn sideways, and the body literally, no matter how deep the embankment, the body articulated it, pivoted left and right. in addition to the suspension and you could roll pretty much full speed all across country and away you go if you want to hit the water was the same way we got it go ahead we got a confirmation that is going to be the next hour let the micro effects operator know we're going to be rebroadcast and pass it on to Jeff and Joe so we'll have a special broadcast from the micro effect in the next hour and I don't really have any idea what's going on there do we dad No, no, this is a surprise for everybody. I think they might again. We'll see what happens once upon a year It's involving Jeff Bennett, and if you've ever worked with Jeff Bennett before listen to some of his broadcasts He has fun with radio. He really does he's on when he's on the ball and up Listen to a couple of his programs. He's been kind of wound down early in the morning. You know getting up and stuff Probably not the best time slot for him, but he does a good job with his radio program I love the pieces that he did for the holidays for Republic radio back in the day in fact you should have those on cassette down up where you are dad I need to have you have Ethan put them on mp3 file and shoot them to me through email or maybe I'll talk to you about that directly. I think we actually have a second set that I just dug out too from the other archives so yeah we in fact We also have the assault on the radio station broadcast that was done. Which did, of course, like War of the Worlds, bother a few people really didn't know what to do, which is interesting to see how they responded to. So again, for sure, in 12 minutes we'll have a special broadcast live, and that will be a co-broadcast with www.themicroeffect.com, www.themicroeffect.com, and Liberty Tree Radio. And as it stands, I'm going to see if I can find something here. Hold on a second. I would be curious if we're lucky. I might be able to find... I go to YouTube and we'll see if we can find the Koop All-Terrain Vehicle. I'm only curious. You know, I got to do this while I'm thinking about it, guys, or I won't remember. Because I got 20 other things to do the moment I get off the air here. Okay? So anyway, it's the Koop. all terrain vehicle I'm punching that in let's see what we get here the Koot all terrain vehicle like the old Koot okay what the idea behind it was that oh hell they actually have a Koot promo how do you like that for anybody to get an understanding go to Koot promo dash rigs of rods it's a looks to be a computer graphic example But let's see if they have any other any up they do they do show another coot there although that one looks a little while it might be Coot ATV does it all hey apparently somebody's reinvented the wheel guys. I still do See oh oh tea It's the coot ATV does it all Projectors sound to apparently I believe this may be a oh it might be a promo video from back in the day We'll find out here in a minute. Oh, there we go. Yep shows one running down the road there You'll get exactly what you'll be able to see exactly what I'm talking about and again, that is koot ATV does it all Now it's a neat little vehicle. Well, we have about 26 of these total that we collected General one of our effect of one of our op for commanders was one of the first people to track one down and We restored it completely. It was one of the military application vehicles, one that was purchased by TARCOM. We got it back and repainted it. We reworked everything, greased everything up, took everything apart, put it back together, every nut, bolt, and screw kids. If you want to see what we're talking about, you'll see this very much like the mechanical mule and concept. very simple design but if you watch the body you'll see that the two tubs articulate and you can run four people, two front, two rear. They did make one that did have a larger box, a longer box and they also experimented with a six wheel model where it had two wheels rear, one set of wheels forward. All these variants are pretty successful But it's the COOT at Rivers, COOT ATV does it all. The coop. And there is also a computer graphic of something and I haven't looked at that yet to know for sure. The interesting thing is that the design, as you can see, would be very lightweight and very easily transportable. I think the issue always with these vehicles has been can they be air dropped? Now, one thing about a US Jeep or a US Deuce and a Half or whatever is they, although they do palletize them, they probably would have palletized this vehicle. The other thing is when you move it, they would have to have locked the articulating box, which is not that big a deal because the way the two pans work together, they'd have probably run two C-type clamps, you know, they would have been blocked and structured. Then they palletize it and drop it but they could drop it with cargo because it was very lightweight by comparison to most the other military vehicles you might be dropping. Fluffy, the mechanical mule that you're talking about, guys when you get out of Knob Creek, check out the mechanical mules that are running there. Remember that that tubular frame and that lightweight engine along with the configuration with those lightweight all-terrain tires meant that you could carry more equipment in the plane before you dropped it. If you're going to drop the equipment, the more you have on the ground, the better off that airborne unit is. It looks like the dancing will float. It does. Oh no, they swim. They're really cool. He's going to do it right there in the video. In fact, I'm just watching. I'm letting it run. He's actually doing a little bit of the water work with it, I guess. He's picking some spots that are off in the middle of the woods and he's going to town with it. So check it out. What's kind of neat is because of the full-size tires, It really, of course, it can do better, I think, than we've had the six wheel ATVs. They're good vehicles. I would point out that most of those six wheel cat, you know, the six wheel cat vehicles, guys, the military bought those too. And the military made an eight wheel version, well, I should say they contracted the eight wheel version. That was known as the, for a period of time it was known as the T-10. Now there was an earlier T-10 that in reality was the Bren gun carrier. But when they reclassified everything, the T-10 all-terrain vehicle was adopted for special warfare units. It was also sent to Antarctica and it was sent to Alaska. and was pretty satisfied with it. Now here's another interesting thing. Oh, this is a K model. You know what, I didn't see this until the very end. In that video, which I guess was in 2009, guys, this is year 2014, so that video has been up for a while, that has the forward mounted motor. That's the other thing I just saw, I just noticed by the way that he was operating the exhaust system. So, it looks to be the forward mounted motor. I'll double check that video. I just have a chance to watch it. Anyway, any of these light altering vehicles can be applied to combat operations. The big thing is sound. A lot of them don't have noise reduction. That's the first thing you want to put on these pieces of equipment. They can be much quieter. You just have to build the exhaust system for them. Remember, we don't want somebody to hear us. We don't want to worry about being run over. Most of the reasons they had the sound issue is so that when you're traveling in areas like motorcycles, all the guys taken put, you know, rumblers on their bikes. That way the sound is typically heard by people so they have a tendency to pay attention. And that's really what it's all about. Yeah. In this case, we can go just reverse. If you take a, again, you build up the exhaust system and go with a larger automotive exhaust. doesn't have to be that big, then you'll be pretty successful. Ah, here we go. There is another video. Here's another one to watch. Incredible Coot ATV in action. Incredible Coot ATV in action. And again, this is, the guy has a couple of them apparently that he's running. And he reconfigured a few things, added a few goodies, which is not a big deal. Some of it just for the sake of operation safety, I guess, so your roll bar is nice. That's something that everybody should add. But the reason that they didn't apply a roll bar originally was to keep the height minimal. Remember, it's just like the mechanical mule. The steering wheel on the mechanical mule is completely articulated. You can actually step out of the mechanical mule, you can undo the steering pin, and you can tilt the steering wheel to the front of the vehicle and drive the vehicle backwards from off of the vehicle. It has a very wide gear range for the trans and you can drop it right down into low low gear and walk with it at slow speed. Now the reason they did that is because if you're going to gun lay the thing or if you're under fire, let's say that you're under fire and you've got a whole pile of garbage you want to deliver, what you could do is get right down on your hands and knees and literally steer the thing while using the vehicle for cover or if you want to stay low out of the way, or walk a gun into a position because they are the mules carried with Reclauss rifles. and the mortars at different times. They didn't fire the mortars from the vehicle, but they transported them into position that way. Anyway, I hear the music, because we have a special program coming up, and don't touch that dial. We have more live broadcast. Yeah, it is time. If you want to keep listening in the conference line, you can stay over there. We're going to keep the conference line up. You'll be able to stay right there, because we won't be hooked up. You won't be able to interact, though. 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