Mark Koernke discussed weapons systems and preparedness on Weapons Wednesday, focusing extensively on the M1A/M14 rifle platform, including variants like the M15 squad automatic rifle, pricing comparisons, and maintenance considerations. He covered ammunition reloading practices, brass consistency, and the importance of spare parts like bolts, op rods, and rear sights. The show included detailed discussion of the M1 Garand, M1 carbine, and rifle grenade launchers across multiple platforms, with callers contributing personal experiences and sourcing information. Koernke emphasized building effective combined-arms militia inventories through strategic purchasing of surplus weapons and ammunition rather than consuming inventory, and discussed how importation restrictions had blocked firearms like Korean carbines and M1 Garands from entering the United States.
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For the restaurant crews, grandma teams, okay teams, and the Ma Bell Grammar Consortium of retired telecommunications workers, bring us the Golden Spike. Many hands make for light work a million Petticoat Junction operators the ability of sending function when everything else is offline. Today's date 22nd October 6th year of open Fabian socialist and Soviet socialist occupation of America with a K. It is weapons Wednesday. We've been talking about the M1A. Call are we still there? Yes sir I am. Very good. You know you're talking about the national match now just to give everybody an idea here when we're talking NMM 14s A field grade M14 from Fulton is running about $2,699.95. I'll just say $2,700. To do a baseline M1A-M14 peerless national match, you're looking at $3,600. Now does everybody see the dollar difference in outlay? Okay, yeah, and that's the difference is in several different areas isn't it caller we're looking at barrel trigger We're looking even at NM national match site arbiters the whole nine yards aren't we? Yes, I have a lot of the TRW parts on they've been replaced with TRW because they're a little Yes, one that I'm going to build is TRW parts national match barrel. I just need a receiver now You're looking for are you looking for an NM boat right now, too? It doesn't have to be an in-n-out. A field grade boat would be fine. There is another company, and I'll tell you what, I don't know if they have any left. Like I've said, one of the things to do is go through all of these odds and ends gun companies. One of them had a handful of M14 bolts. They were military bolts, and I'm going to try and find it, but I would check Sarco. Number one, Sarco has had a pile of stuff just like 45 parts. They just had a bunch of 45 parts. There's two things they did. Either they went into their cellars and they really do have mines. They have chambers that they've stored stuff in. They bought it back when it was cheap and they kept a lot of it back and hidden away. But if you check with Sarco, I would do that first for the bolt. I think you probably get the best price there. But there's another company, and I'm looking while I'm talking, that had bolts. They didn't have any other M14 parts left in stock, but they had bolts and they're out west. They're a California company. Actually, they're pretty cool, younger guys, but they do a pretty good job of keeping stuff in stock. They're always searching. Anybody who wants to stay in business has to do that. But bolts again and op rods, one of the things we've been talking about for years, if you're running an M14 or an M1 Garand, you want to keep an eye out for and snag spare op rods. A spare bolt, obviously firing pin extractor, ejectors. The other thing is again, it sounds weird, but rear sight just to be safe because that's the thing that sticks out and people run through the woods. beaten feet through the backcountry, the stuff that sticks out can be damaged. So as a precaution, it's so cheap it's ridiculous, but that iron sight makes the M14. That micro-adjustable sight gives that rifle such potential. So having a spare on hand while they're cheap is a good idea, guys. Just something again. One rotation is a half a degree. Yeah. Well, and the advantage here too, like you said, you've got National Match you can buy with peep, standard peep, or with again, barreled peep, so that you again have a little more control over the site alignment with regard to some reflection, etc. That was one of the reasons they did it. The cool thing is if you learn to use an M1A, you aren't going to have any problem picking up a Grand, are you? I spent four years in a military school and we drilled with a Grand, we shot Grand. and played with grands I kept mine in my room most of the time heaven forbid oh my god were you always at risk like that oh my goodness didn't it jump out at you at night and attack you hey this Don hasn't mentioned that this is a weapons Wednesday I want to do a little salute you listening oh again buy more links buy more links and why more links good hit color You can buy an awesome in 14 airsoft for $67 today. I mean you are wearing a suit suit the amount of 13 airsoft makes a killer Oh, absolutely not tell you what right now m1a airsoft rifles You without spending thousand a thousand dollars. They build m1a airsoft m14 airsoft and I'm even standing on the table side by side with the standard rifle, 99% of the people out there could not tell the difference. Even when you pick the weapon up, you're looking at all metal receivers now, you're looking at all metal mags, although plastic or metal would make any difference for a trainer, but literally you can buy what is a birch wood stock duplicate of the M14 top to bottom and for training purposes it is priceless. In fact I would say it's a priority because a lot of you guys, I'm going to warn you, we built virtually thousands of M14s. Back years ago in the 80s the M14 kits came in for $125 a piece. They were TRW mostly What we did is we bought Fed Orred. There were a couple other companies out there that built some really nice, well Springfield Armory did of course, but they built some really nice second line M14 receivers. Guys, we were building up to 14 to 17 M1As a night. and what we did is everybody pulled their money, everybody had a job and the cool thing is that when these things came out we had just had a bunch of good men that were in service who were M14 armorers, they were government military armorers. It was perfect timing. They came into the Patriot Movement and the Militia Movement in the early 80s. The kits came in for $125. Receivers were as little as $87 apiece to $127 apiece. So we could put a complete M14 slash M1A together for about $250. 250 to 300 depending on what you spent on the receiver and you could buy any grade Springfield receiver that you wanted. So it was purely matter. Now an interesting thing about these kits is most of your rifles are M14s but I will remind everybody that a lot of them were M15 rifles. Now the M15, this is not something made up guys, back when the M1A was in service, the M14, the idea was to replace the BAR, but they were not just going to take a standard rifle off the shelf. The M15 had a beefed up heavier barrel, chubby chunkier stock it was thicker it's really obvious when you have them in the rack and you start pulling rifles off the shelf you know you take your thumb and your index finger and your grip a rifle the m15 stocks were heavier in the initial model. Then they of course went with the experimental M14AO E1A1 stock which has the pistol grip and the vertical grip that came down. Now they did attach a vertical grip, a front folding vertical grip to the M15 in one of the later variants. But the idea behind this is that one rifle did everything. The heavy barreled M15 would replace the BAR in the squad. and would be the squad automatic rifle so everybody would carry the same mags everybody was functioning on the same weapon The program faded away in favor of, as we know, during Vietnam, or the initiating of Vietnam, actually goes to the, there are two phases, the Vietnam early-day 6263 and the Dominican Republic uprising. In that instance, the M60 machine gun was brought into service in its XM model for experimental purposes and then adopted to be the sister weapon to go along with the M14. What this did is phase out the M15 squad automatic rifle. So the weapons were not withdrawn from service since all M14s are select fire. Remember that guys? They used a key for control. The squad leader or the platoon leader was supposed to come around and say, hi Mark. Well tonight you're a squad automatic rifleman, so we're going to turn your key on and we're going to turn Fred's gun off. Now, the biggest problem they had with this is it kind of went contrary to the idea that the M15 was supposed to be a full-auto squad gun and you were supposed to have the same discipline as the M14. Instead, they could literally take every man and turn him into an auto gunner if they wanted to. Kind of defeated the purpose with the rifle, but again, you've got to have a couple guys tapping rounds down range for suppression fire. So the M15 program, what they did is they just left the rifles on the shelf. They didn't re-barrel them for obvious reasons. And in many cases, the people picked them out. I did. I was carrying an M15 most of the time out of the weapons I could pull off the rack when I was using an M14. and the M15s were very distinctive and easy to spot. They were never pulled out of service, but as they retired the weapon into strategic reserve, those weapons were to a degree prioritized and shifted over into the M21 sniper system. And that's why they kind of disappeared, but they didn't disappear. They faded away sideways. They still showed up in the kit forms though and about 1 out of 50 of the kits that we built back in the 80s was an M15 rifle, an M15 system. The proper stock, they came typically all, literally when they were demilled, they were demilled at a port of entry here in the United States. So the only thing they did is they whacked the receiver in two spots, they cut them, they did not torch them. And we didn't throw those receivers away. Those receivers have all been rebuilt and those receivers are sitting in reserve for a future date. When the time comes, we'll be putting more real M14s together. But for the time being, those receiver parts were put in reserve. Well, the stocks, the heavier barrel, all the other accoutrements, everything matches up on those M15 weapons. They're the minority gun because they were supposed to be a minority gun. But they do offer a heavier barrel so they are. They do offer more accuracy, greater range, and they're a little easier on the cooling issues when it comes to heat build up because of the way the barrel was configured. So just a little heads up there. There is such a thing as an M15. It's not the AR family rifle, it was the counterpart to the M14 that went into service in 1954-55. The XM model was already ready even before the proving ground operations took place to test out a NATO rifle when we went to the M14. By 1955-56 the basic rifles were already in service and the rest is history for the M14 rifle and the M15 program. So that's another one to expect. If you find something chunky and lumpy, it's not something weird. Well, that must be something that was aftermarket. No, it was built during the Cold War and it was built as part of a family of weapons that were supposed to make up the M14 system. So just something to think about there. And again, that National Match Rifle, that's a singer, isn't it, sir? Uh-oh, we might have lost our caller there. That's okay. Anyway, just history, but it also relevant. You see the kids? Sorry about that. For everybody out there, again, that's Fulton Armory. Fulton-Armory.com and our friends posted that in the chatroom. They are again a very different cost of weapon. You're looking at $2,700 to $3,000 plus for a rifle. That's my point. To get a fine quality weapon comparable to a standard arm that used to be off the shelf for a reasonable price, You are looking at being able to outfit three, five or seven individuals with a field grade category arm that will perform well enough. It will perform to our expectations. The PAP rifles They are not as tight as the M14, needless to say, but they do perform exceptionally well and they will perform well within the specifications for a rifle marksman on the modern battlefield and certainly superior to the standard light rifleman. I mean everybody is told they can only reach 200 yards, so you can only reach 200 to 220 yards after your maximum engagement. Guys, every rifle we're talking about here, every one of these M1As, again, will reach 1,000 yards with iron sights. And they will at least, as an old sergeant of mine, one of the sergeants I served with, he was a sergeant major, when I was in national match competitions, somebody said, well, what good would your .45 be at 100 yards? And in the year 1911, he said, well, I may not kill you with it, but I could make you awful uncomfortable with it. I don't think you'd just stand there and wait to see where the bullet was. See? So the fact of the matter is, guys, remember that there are points where suppression or disruption fire are very valuable. Now repeat again when we look at engagement concepts. Let's think about it this way. My enemy is carrying a light rifle, the M4, or carrying the AK-74, or carrying the latest JI-36 or whatever. Yeah, Steyr and Augh, could be anything. Okay? He has been told that his engagement range is going to be 200 to 220 yards. Yes. Now, if you take that NAGOT rifle or that PAP in .308 or that M14 or that HK91 and you engage a platoon or even a squad at 1,000 yards, you have completely changed the dynamic of how they have to get to their optimal range. They're not going to make it. Yeah, they're not going to make it, number one. You're already going to, in fact, remember that first bullet must hit someone. This is where you have to scrunch in, focus, you know, stay on target, squeeze that titty and hit what you are aiming at. Why? Because now instead of 10 coming at you, there are only 9. 8. 7. Yeah, 9 is not happy. Hey Mark, ArmorLife.com, ArmorLife.com, selling an M15 right now for under $1100. That's an M15 slash an AR rifle though, right? Yeah, M15, A4, black rifle and .223. Right, and .223. Well, you know what I'm saying, the M15, if you look up, okay, if you do a Google search and put M-15. The more specific searches will show you an M14 looking rifle. What it was is that was the squad rifle. It was the when they when the BAR was still in service the M1918 in whatever configuration which by the way we still used in the 60s and 70s. When I was with an SF group we had two BARs in the unit in in what 1975 1976 guys 1977. We had two BARs and two RPKs in the unit that we carried. The guys who used the BARs, 1918 BARs in 1977, you couldn't pry out of their hands. Once they found out what they could do with the BAR, they literally had no problem carrying that anywhere they needed to carry it. Yes. That's even in 1977 because we had a chance to shoot pretty much everything. We could pretty well take any one of 10,000 weapons out of the arsenal and break them down and shoot them at our discretion. And so Russian, Chinese, Czech, American from any era. And the BAR, the latest model was simplified in some ways but still carrying the bipod. Although again, it was a plus or minus in that some guys didn't like the bipod, others did. But ours carried, used a bipod, still had the bipod on them, we didn't detach them. The weapon itself was heavy, but that weapon you could spell your name with, it had grand accuracy and a fully automatic option, is basically what it comes down to. Any place you could reach with the grand in semi-auto, you could reach with the BAR and hit first time every time. I used to shoot leg matches at Ataberry. at 1000 yards? Yes. I love my grand. Well this is one of the reasons we've been trying to tell everybody if you have a grand rifle for instance, see BAR mags used to be $2 a piece now they're stinking $20, $22, $28. They're collectors items! Well there's still just as many them out there as there were because we built them in World War II, Korea and we made even more of them in Vietnam. But the Garand, again, we also did the same thing with D-clips, but guys, buy D-clips and buy more D-clips. We need to have them in production. We're going to have to build them. There are too many M1 Garands out here. Think about it. You know guys rebuilt cut receivers the standard national match model You're probably were shooting a in competition is a tack driver and I don't want to be in front of that rifle I don't want that rifle put in both down range on me because I know you will hit me with what you were using Not only that but it is a very powerful cartridge yacht six. I use a hundred and sixty two grain I don't remember the exact load, but I use I don't know like city brass. Yep, it's sniper load One of the things that you just pointed out is something we talked about. Everybody has a flavor of brass. I use 42 St. Louis. And you guys, why would you do that? Well, just what our caller just said, consistency, guys. Number one, I know that it came from the same factory, and I know that it came pretty much from the same lot or the same family of production. And if you're lucky, you buy it from a guy who back in the day bought it for a quarter penny around and he'll have a whole footlocker full or a whole pickup truck full. And it's all the same brass and it all came from the same factory on the same day or same week or same month. And that's consistent. That means you know what you're going to get in the way of performance out of that brass when you load it back up. And you need a lot of it to make sure you do the job. Go ahead. I forgot to add, this is a national match. and M-Brats. See, that's another thing I'm going to tell everybody. Guys, there's so much of that ammunition that went out and it has not been shot. It has been held for this war. I know of places where there's three semi-trailers full of NM-68 or Lake City NM-68. There was a ton of that made in 68. But guys, it went out and it's not been shot. It was picked up, but it wasn't shot. Because there's a lot of people's attitudes out there. Go ahead. I've got a lot of out six national match. And I think it's 61 or 62. National match and out six, Lake City. I still comfortably. On standby and it will be needed. Now, load and shoot, load and shoot. But I'm real finicky about my brass. Got to be. This is true of also our .223 and .762x39 shooters and I've pointed this out if your guys are going to be no matter what you're shooting find a flavor that fits and remember that once you fired especially reloadable brass remember you just fire form that brass to that chamber guys so if you can you yeah you want to you want to single that brass out collect it up and mark it for the rifle That's the first step to again bringing your accuracy tightening tightening your weapon up because then you only just you only throat reform and Then adjust everything accordingly check your weights check your scale. You know even weigh your brass guys This is where you separate your brass by weight and even that small bit of variance in the weight of the different cases Will determine specific point of impact Go ahead color jump in there, please I used to buy bulk slugs at the Ohio Valley Gunclickers there in Columbus, Ohio. And I would buy a 3000 at a time. Reloading. Yep. Six quantities, came in the same bags and it was really consistent. Well, I think one of the things right now, the problem we got is again, people are, I know I understand how people are pushed towards the lighter rifles, guys. But if we want to continue to feed our heavies, which we need as part of our combined arms team, this is why you need to invest in an MBR, a main battle rifle. If you are going to build up an M1A, just like you've been talking about, you can piece one together or you can buy a weapon, a standard field grade weapon off the shelf. Or if you look around, you'll find them floating around. Not as many as there used to be and the prices aren't what they were. Buying a brand new M1A from the manufacturer and Fulton's building to spec, like I said, look at what you're looking at in the way of price. I paid $550 for my Springfield National Match. and I got about 30 original mags with it. Back when they were a lot cheaper. These are the original mags and I use aftermarket mags now but I don't want to wear out the old 14 mags. Right, hang on to the guess what I've been saying. By the way, I believe that CenterFireSystems.com, although they may have run out again, They have Taiwanese mags and I believe also that AIM Surplus has Taiwanese mags. Now the Taiwanese contract mags were the closest to US or identical to US mil spec. Taiwan did not make junk when it came to weapons. And because their life depended upon it, the quality of their mags are comparable to ours, but I'd use theirs before I'd wear out my own military US mags. I mean, just because, again, they're cheaper. They're cheaper to buy. So that's the one to go with right now. Go ahead. At Knob Creek this year, Center Fire Systems has 30 carbine clean round mags, Korean made, for $4.99 each. Which was a steal. That was a good price. Oh, I loaded up a bag. Yeah, that was an excellent price in this day and age for those. Plus Korea, Korea is another country that they use the carbine, they use the M14. They built their own but they mostly kept the ones that we gave to them in service. They still have car beans in service right now. Even though they make the Daewoo rifle and even though they have the M16, there's still a quantity of car beans in Korea, a lot of them in Southeast Asia to include Laos, Cambodia. If you'll notice, you see fighting in Thailand and even with the government of Thailand, guys, take a look. If you look at the videos, go to YouTube. This last year while they had fighting going on when the police came out in force, look at what they were carrying. There's a lot of carbines. Hell, we've got millions. That's another weapon. Thank you for bringing it up. Again, don't poo-poo the carbine, but start buying more ammo and mags. If you've got a carbine you've inherited, buy the mags. Get more of them into the country. We need production up. That's the other reason we promote trying to get people to pick this stuff up because these weapons are not obsolete by any stretch of imagination and they are very serviceable and very comfortable weapons to fire. The ladies love the carbine and I understand why it's got the right form for the shape of the average woman. It's lightweight, minimal recoil, and quick and easy to change magazines so it has the same advantage as the AR-15 in that magazine out, magazine in, boom, boom, boom. I have an Inland M1A. Pretty carbine. But Inland. It works. There's some type gun. Well, the advantage of the car beams, like you said, you can take those 15 round mags, guys, even load it up and you can stuff every pocket with them and you won't even really know they're there. You can put one in every pocket and just lay them all over the place on your, like, to one in every field jacket pocket, one in every blouse pocket, put one in every front pocket, and you've got your ammunition distributed all over the place and nobody even have a clue what you've got that you're carrying and you've got a lot of flare power. And that's one of the things about the carbine is it was originally designed as a way to get out of the problem. But what happened, like anything else, is a lot of people liked it because it was lightweight, offered a lot of firepower. You could carry a lot of ammo and put a lot of bullets down range. So once it was in service, guys, a lot of people picked it up that originally weren't supposed to be carrying it. And it just kept growing. It kept making more. wasn't intended more for Jeep drivers and people of that ilk support personnel exactly it was designed to be in fact they originally I don't know sometimes they come up with goofy ideas the original proposal as it was supposed to completely replace the 45 and that wasn't going to happen. But what's really interesting is originally they made holsters for the stock rifles, which I thought was really, you know, hey that's kind of cute. But they actually made a holster for the, you know, under the idea that we'll carry it like we would a pistol. And it's like, well not hardly. Not even. That holster. That holster. I don't even know if you loved it. That holster was made for the folding stock paratrooper model. Right, well they made a full stock model too. They actually made one for the full length, standard narrow stock. Because the folder of course has the pistol grip assembly and makes it for a little bulkier top to bottom, but they did make both, yes. The other thing about that is like he just said, the Audie Murphy was not a big man. And the carbine was a perfect weapon for his stature. I have the five-folder holster for mine. I believe it in the full stock most of the time because the holder on the .30 carbine is a little flimsy and it does not lock into place. Oh, that's not good. No, it does not lock into place and it's just a little bit flimsy. Show and tell, I prifle in the folding stock. This is for play. Well, again, the whole point here is a serviceable weapon, a pile of mags, as much ammunition as you can, a Guila, in fact, even Gecko. I think this time around, this last wave in the last two months, I believe that Gecko sent in or that people bought, the jobbers, bought 30 carbine in Gecko, the Gecko manufacturing company. So if you watch, you'll find the carbine will be brass, heat and yield, standard mill spec. The most common right now though is a Guila for getting stuff off the shelf that's probably the cheapest price. There is some PMC coming in and 30 carbine, but it's been scarfed up as quick as it's been available because a lot of people are familiar with PMC. They're not as familiar with the Guila if they haven't been shooting as much. But PMC, well you know, that's Korea, they've been around for quite some time now and so people are kind of comfortable with them. And they do make a good load. So the carbine military spec standard ball will work either way. their own stripper clips with the speed limit. That's one of the advantages, in fact again if we can run into them, if you've got the cans, the most important thing is pocket the strippers. You've got to teach your students to do that. Everybody needs to remember this guys. Ain't the razor, it's the blades. I understand that the logic is we may get more, but if it's an orphan round or a unique round, chances are what you got is all you got. So we've got to keep recycling. So get used to the idea of pocketing the charger. When you use the charger, pocket it. Immediately bag it or pocket it. I have not seen a lot of 30 carbine stripper clips with the charger. I have not seen those. They're becoming harder to find. That's what I'm saying. Hang on to whatever we can. Another thing here about the carbine is back about 95, 96, and then there was a little burp there again. Korea or one of the other Asian companies released a bunch of the muzzle compensators and the screw-on type. These are the ones that actually have a little butterfly nut for the carbine. Guys, those are still reasonably priced. They aren't very fancy, but for anybody out there that's got a carbine, if you're looking to try and reduce the flash, because a lot of them have scope mounts, so putting the night vision on a carbine is a really logical choice. The cone flash hiders are the best choice for that mission. That's what they were designed for. Flash production. So those are available too and then of course the muzzle compensators are basically a butterfly lever slash a hinge type system it wraps around. You don't have to screw it on the muzzle guys you just wrap it around the site and then there's a thumb nut that comes up and locks it into place. They also made that in a raffle grenade launching. Yes. And I think mine says made in Spain. España! I have the flash cone and the launching fire or whatever you want to use. I believe they do stay Spain on them. The other thing, again, I don't know that, of course, we don't happen last year and the year before with the carbines where they blocked them from coming in. There were a number of carbines that were going to be coming in from Korea, which was expected. I don't know if they were going to be Bluebird or whatever the fake company name they were going to come up with. All that is is the importer. But that was one of the ways that Obama was going to punish the, you know, the, been blocked firearms in the U.S. was to, again, block importation permits. And while the garands were blocked at the same time and then they went through the whole process of trying to get the garands in again, they turned right around and after they let them do the whole paperwork routine and they did the paper chase, then they blocked the garands anyway. That was not a surprise, that was expected. I had a lot of people doing the, oh you don't know what I know, they're bringing these weapons in. I said, no we already know about that and watch what happens, what they will do. They're going to let them spend all the money and go through all the fees because guys when you file with the government you have to pay filing fees. And they love taking your money and if that's another way to punish you they will. And then go, oh by the way, great paperwork, love your request, it's denied. And that's exactly what they did. Yeah, and then now, you know, re-apply, which is what everybody did. They reapplied. Oh, well, there's another how many months waiting on the docks. In fact, a lot of them didn't get on the docks for that reason, so it's something to consider and take into account. Another thing on the rifle grenade launchers, and a good point to bring up on that, guys spigot type rifle grenade launchers are made for virtually every military arm out there. The carbine, the M14, the M1A, also the M1 rifle, the 1903 Springfield, K98 Mausers, the Europeans all made launchers for the FN49, the FNFAL, the HK91, So all of those are capable of launching spigot rifle grenades or launching flares. However, it does require a special blank cartridge, not a training blank, a rifle grenade blank to launch. And that's the thing that everybody needs to remember. The standard blank cartridge will not project a rifle grenade round. It's the wrong type of powder charge and powder configuration with regard to the throw, what it needs to push that round downrange. However, if you do have a weapon and you can acquire a spigot launcher, I highly recommend it because many countries are still using rifle grenades. So you are going to capture them. You are going to see them. If you look at all these videos, you'll see that especially in the Middle East but also in Ukraine, Everything that's ever been built is going into battle. Everything. The M1A on the forward gas, so there is a valve that you can turn by launching grenades. Gas diverter, that's what that is. Yes, thank you. I think that's the only one that has the diverter. Grand does not, carbine does not. not sure about the other weapons right the big thing about all of them for instance at some of the other accoutrements if you're going to be using rifle grenade we employed the rifle grenades uh... in fact i'd call hold another another generation without for how to use rifle grenades within for the very reason it was on the cheap back at the time when we were building up our poor forces uh... everything to put a rifle grenade launcher system in a play with pennies now that that was at the edgy where the stuff of world war two was running down There is a rubber boot, it's black rubber plastic. It will work on the M14 or any other rifle, the FN FAL, M1, M14, etc. But it's designed so that when you put the buttstock on the ground, it will help to cushion the blow so it doesn't chip or damage the stock. There are of course a number of balanced rifle sites that were built to go on the side of the stock. They are still out there in force but they're not as cheap as they used to be. Blanks, there are a couple of American companies, American individuals, they're private. They have built rifle grenade blanks and we're building blanks for the 303 rifle, the 308, 30-06 and even for the 223 and 762x39. Now the spigot launchers are even available for the AKs guys and right now as a matter of fact you can even get them for the SKS. I believe CenterfireSystems.com has them on the shelf and they throw away their cheap throw away prices. So if you have a weapon, buy all the accoutrements that you can that we've talked about, put them into your kit. The worst that's going to happen is it makes for a little bit of an elongated, since the launcher is longer than your muzzle by about four inches to five depending on the launcher. Guess what? That makes a nice flash hider, doesn't it? Cone-type flash hider. It's not much bigger than the standard bore on the gun, but it does extend that barrel out so that those gases are burned before they're exposed to the air. Yeah, but I haven't seen them in a long time. Sarco, the company I mentioned, E-Sarco used to have them in stock. Go ahead. I have a few of those and they will fit over 15 standard AR 100 yards. Well, actually, the flash hider on the HK 91 and the flash hider on the AR R, well, grenade launching adapters. That's why they were built for the specs that they were. You have two grooves on the AR 15 flash hider. The one groove was designed to accommodate the blank adapter, but either of the grooves can be used for the retaining spring. On the launcher, if you look on a standard M7 or the M7, M8 or M11 launchers, spigot launchers, on the base there is a coil spring that rests in a groove that goes around the circumference of the tube. That is the retarding device to retain the grenade long enough for it to build up pressure so it can be regulated for range. Now, it's at either end, depending on what type of launcher it is. On most of them, it's at the muzzle end. And depending upon how far down you stick the rifle grenade determines how far, how much resistance you get, and what range the grenade will launch to. Which is why you have a gradient on the launcher that tells you 100, 200, and 300 yards. There was a funny looking thing that went in back on the AR. The one with the two rings and then there was a kind of a clippy thing. I don't know how they got it. That was designed, yes. What that was is it actually goes around. Now that goes around the base when you screw the flash hider in. It looks like flat fins all the way around the base of the flash hider. Yes. And what those are, another variation on the spring retard system so that they're designed to be flexible enough, so when you slide the grenade over the muzzle, the flash hider, it creates enough tension to hold the grenade in place because otherwise it could flop off the end of the weapon and depending upon the grenade some have impact detonators. So the last thing we want is for you to be bebopping along with a rifle grenade on the end of your weapon and you to turn the muzzle down and oh well, there's just enough of a click tick to make her go pop boom. Well I have one of those on my AR. Yeah, that's another variation on the theme. Now one reason I'm part of those coil springs is if you look on the bigger, in fact right now I got one sitting right here. If you look at the larger, cheapy dollar store, I got one right here, this one would be perfect. As a matter of fact, the Clicky Clicky Pens, that one, right there, the spring that's in there is approximately the right diameter, so that if you put that in the slot and pull it around and hook it on itself, that will replace the standard heavier coil spring that was built for the purpose. You can find some places, I imagine Sarco or Gun Parts Corp might have the springs. Some places still have them in stock, some know what they are, if you ask for them, yeah, I know what those are. They might actually have them. But if you don't have them, remember, look around at all these little machines and implements that have these little coil springs. and you can improvise one to perform and accommodate the same mission. It helps hold it in place. Yeah, it will get the job done until you can find another one. They reach around and hook in place. Yep. Boom! The one thing about these is that again for the flairs are also available. That's typically what I would use the Grenadier for is for flare and illumination because the standard rifle grenade will reach another 400 or 500 feet higher than the regular pop players that everybody was being issued that are the traditional throwaways. The advantage too is that I could use the Grenadier. It created a psychological effect too. It's pretty cool because it looks to be like a mortar round going off or a standard Grenadier as we see with a 40mm today. But you could outfit a whole unit with these things. You could have every man launching a grenade or every man launching a flare. So guys, think about it. If you've got 120 men and everybody dumps a rifle grenade down range, that's 120 HE rounds going off like a Russian rocket saturation attack. Psychologically, that really does ruin your day. So it's just something to think about that every man with a rifle grenade, every man launches two rifle grenades and then dumps a magazine into the target during the assault. Think about what kind of fire power that is that you're throwing onto a target. That's an awful lot. Yeah, that's a lot of hurt. And again, depending on what you're trying to do, it's a belly gun effect and it will mark, it's only a rifle grenade. Really? Do you want to be near one? You know guys, it's an offensive grenade to begin with. It could be an Energa, which also would be an anti-tank grenade, an anti-tank AP round. And that was the whole idea. You could saturate a tank with a shock by shock and awe, so to speak, and knock a vehicle out. You would have to be just one round. Most people don't think that way. They always see these movies and there's one guy using the weapon. Well, every weapon you had could use that launcher. and every man could be carrying one. Go ahead, I'm sorry guys, jump in there. We're almost to the top. Okay, well, that's okay. Yep, I have pluppies here. I'll tell you what guys, we are almost to the top of the hour and for everybody out there, your input, this is what we like to do. So if you're a new listener and going, wow, you guys are going bouncing back and forth. Guys, that's what we need to see happen. If you have questions, call in and ask. If you're, you know, if you are contrary to what we're talking about, oh, these guys, they don't know. Well, jump in there too. 712-432-0900, 712-432-0900. The room number is 957-464-pound sign. Once you get to 712-432-0900, the room number is 957-464-pound sign. Then star six to unmute yourself and you can get into the, you know, you can call in. One of the reasons is that there's a wide range of different families of weapons that have been brought into service. You know, it was talking earlier, we built a lot of M1As. Guys, we also built a lot of FNFALs. I know that while I've been talking, probably our FAL owners are going, oh, we're treating us like the red-headed stepchild. No, I love the FNFAL, but the FNFAL has gone the way of, you know, in terms of surplus, has gone into the M1A category in terms of cost. There are still some FALs that are out there, brand new built, they're beautiful firearms, they're excellent weapons, but the magazines used to be $2 apiece. They're not $2 apiece anymore. Yes, so what it is is we're looking at how can we, as a parts inventory has become available, take advantage of it and slide it intelligently into our militia inventory. The bad guys didn't think we were going to think that way. The Chinese realized this. Let me point something out, guys. When was the last time you saw a Chinese SKS brand new or a brand new AK-47 brought into the United States? Been a while. We were looking at the idea that we're not just spraying and praying and burning up our inventory, but instead we were buying the weapons so that we would have a more effective defense force. The Chinese stopped sending us their standard. They agreed to that because they were talking with the ring knockers at this end. See, we weren't supposed to be thinking that way. These were supposed to be goof toys. We were just buying it to be goofs and we were going to buy it and then piddle around with it and then throw it away and then go piddle with something else. In reality, to a degree, because America had the wealth, we were doing that. They weren't getting thrown away. It's just everybody go out and buy the latest Azure toy that came in from whatever country and they'd play with it. They'd come back and go, oh, I've got to trade this in to get that other new toy. Guys made whole businesses out of that. Well, that changed. And progressively what the people who were watching the gun shows noticed, yep, a lot of guns were going out, but they weren't coming back the way they used to. And the same is especially true. I mean, guys, there's whole units out here that have reserve inventories. When AKs were $125 a piece, brand new from China, you got six mags with them, you got a mag pouch, you got the cleaning kit, you got a sling, and it was all in a box already pre-packaged. Everything you needed to make that rifle run. And it was... I bought my under... Military standard. Yeah, go ahead. I'm sorry, call and repeat. I bought my under folder in Columbus, Ohio, $360. Yeah. It was in 1983. Yep, and all ready to roll with all the accoutrements and everything to make it function. I still got the box and it came with three mags, oiler, dreamer. And if need be you can hand it to a man right now and they'd be in service and they'd be a combat infantryman right there, boom. And back then you could get a case of 1,200, 1,600 rounds for... around seventy dollars fifty six dollars to seventy eight dollars a crate for fourteen hundred rounds of ammo in the can of those and the idea behind us is the reason we're bringing this up guys is that we didn't burn all that up and that's what they really bothered them they thought that what was happening is that we were buying this stuff and consuming our inventory and exhausting our money In reality what happened is people looked at it and said, wow, I can put a whole group of people armed together like right now and I got all the support to keep going for a long time. Well, we weren't supposed to be thinking that way. I can open up one spam cam, which I did back then, and I shot for one spam cam and I still have everything else left. Again, for all of you out there, this is why we need to be thinking ahead. We still have the ability to tailor our purchases. And again, it's Weapons Wednesday. 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